I don't think Whitney ever stopped loving Robyn. Her words did not match her actions. I believe it was a real struggle for her leading to mixed signals
@Thegazelle10003 жыл бұрын
There was too much confusion in Whitney's head--> mixed signals which made Robyn confused too.
@Msk-wb1yg3 жыл бұрын
@@Thegazelle1000 I agree...
@mariej.richard5114 Жыл бұрын
Agree it’s steal gives u sexual vibes if your hugging basic touching thinking thoughts memories that shit don’t stop. It’s there it’s passion yet they knew it and what about temptation…….that was not that easy let go for whit n Robyn ……they probably still kissed. That will bring on sexual urges with sleeping together just like with a man
@Msk-wb1yg Жыл бұрын
@Marie J.Richard I guess they had to go cold turkey and wean themselves off each other. Living together didn't help. Easiest way to get over someone is to get with someone else. Whitney was able to do that but blocked robyn from doing so, leaving her in an emotional limbo.
@mariej.richard5114 Жыл бұрын
@@Msk-wb1yg I agree I felt sad for nip feelings don’t just stop when you stop sleeping with someone you gotta detox that out it’s like a boyfriend girlfriend situation when you love you go back cry act a fool if they talk to someone else Why was she crying slapping behind joy ..went to her house told her tell your company o leave Robyn said No .then she left crying all night went back got that Bible tore out those pages then made her move back to mansion….she was in love with Robyn. Robyn got interest in joy ….it’s crazy but understandable..love nip admire Robyn changes nothing for me
@Hi.Shadow3 жыл бұрын
I think Robyn did love Whitney unconditionally but Whitney loved Robyn conditionally, because she couldn’t and wouldn’t give herself to Robyn the way she wanted her to.
@rolynnsreviews3 жыл бұрын
@Hi_Shadow you are absolutely correct!!😊
@Msk-wb1yg3 жыл бұрын
Robyn said Whitney would look and talk to her different when they were alone. They still had that emotionally connection and Bobby could not compete.
@rolynnsreviews3 жыл бұрын
@Ms. K EXACTLY!!! I said the same thing!!! kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3W7kIubl7Jlmtk 😊😊😊
@Sperm_monkey3 жыл бұрын
I love Robyn her personality is everything I see why wanted her all to herself
@rolynnsreviews3 жыл бұрын
@sperm monkey Me too! kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3W7kIubl7Jlmtk 😊😊😊
@Sperm_monkey3 жыл бұрын
@@rolynnsreviews I seen yo videos I love yo channel Robyn is a Sagittarius like me her birthday is 10 days after mine on the 17th of December saj people rock!!!!!!
@rolynnsreviews3 жыл бұрын
@@Sperm_monkey thank you so much for your words of encouragement! I am glad that you enjoy my content and please feel free to leave me suggestions about; what you want me to talk about in the future.😊😊😊
@rolynnsreviews3 жыл бұрын
@@Sperm_monkey please don’t forget to remind me about your birthday! Also, please feel free to participate in the live chat every Sunday at 4 o’clock!😊😊😊
@jasminelucas7433 жыл бұрын
My birthday is January second
@whitneysource3 жыл бұрын
Whitney lost herself a long time ago . I think even before fame (due her early childhood ….she had truama ) . She didn’t really know who she was or what she wanted in her personal life . People like that cause so much confusion .
@rolynnsreviews3 жыл бұрын
@whitney source I wish that I could disagree with your commentary; but unfortunately; it is all true!😢😢😢
@Thegazelle10003 жыл бұрын
I always said the same thing: she seems confused and didn't really what she wanted. She continued to make the same mistake over and over in her personal life.
@thequintessential55033 жыл бұрын
😢
@brokeaf56162 жыл бұрын
This! That's why most of her interviews are contradictory. She was defining herself as just the daughter of Cissy and the cousin of Dion well into her forties, which is sad considering her talent. And I will go as far as to say she used religion to hide her lack of self identity/esteem.
@MZHARDBODYENT Жыл бұрын
I said Whitney never really matured & suffered from arrested development she was still the same age where her abuse began. I completely understand her now because when I was younger I was so disappointed in her because she was someone I looked up to as a young girl. Greatest love of all hit different and told me to love myself early so by the time I was 16 I didn’t tolerate mistreatment by men so I didn’t understand the headlines about her & Bobby & how she allowed him to bring her down but I know see her image was all a facade & sis had suffered a lot of trauma raised by narcissistic parents & attracted toxic men like her Father
@Msk-wb1yg3 жыл бұрын
I saw an interview with Da brat saying it was hard to live her truth in the 90's and made reference to Ellen losing everything. It woulda been worse for Whitney in the 80's. I believe Whitney feared rejection and ridicule
@rolynnsreviews3 жыл бұрын
Ms. K Whitney would have never become a star if she had come out as gay! I am old enough to remember how it was in the 80’s!!! You are absolutely right!!!😊
@DaBratlife2 жыл бұрын
@Ms k Exactly and that is very sad to say but that's how it was years ago if you were a lesbian, gay, or bisexual you had to keep it on the low. As it was strongly advised from her parents, Clive Davis, her management team, publicist etc. I truly believe that Whitney felt like Robyn was her soul mate, they loved each other unconditionally. In the documentary WHITNEY CAN I BE ME (probably the best honest portrayal of her life in my opinion) Bobby Brown was even quoted saying when Whitney died after her funeral, that if Robyn would have been truly accepted in Whitney's life he strongly believed she would still be alive today. Also Robyn leaving broke Whitney's heart but Robyn hated Bobby and vice versa they were always fighting for her attention, affection Whitney was always playing the referee, Robyn had enough and told Whitney to choose and the rest is history.
@Msk-wb1yg2 жыл бұрын
@@DaBratlife True but i think whitney could have avoided alot of the chaos between Robyn and Bobby if she had just put up some boundaries. Robyn wasnt tryna be the third wheel but Whitney was making her that, causing Bobby to be all up in his feelings. She may have been like the sister she never had, most trusted employee, confidant and best friend but she was also her ex. Assuming Alicia and Bobby hooked up back in the day but was now Bobby's manager, I dont think Whitney would be comfortable having her around. Robyn left at the right time in my opinion cos Whitney and Bobby were spiralling out of control. If Whitney had swallowed her pride and rejected her resignation, I believe Robyn woulda stayed.
@DaBratlife2 жыл бұрын
@@Msk-wb1yg Yes I agree with everything you said. Whitney should have set boundaries with Robyn it certainly would have avoided a lot of drama. Robyn was also the buffer between Whitney and everyone else including her greedy father and his lawyer, so when she left it was open season, just so sad. She protected Whitney as much as she possibly could. I believe Robyn is probably the only person she truly felt safe with.
@Msk-wb1yg2 жыл бұрын
@@DaBratlife most definitely, robyn appeared to be the one person she could trust 100%. She may have loved Bobby but didn't trust him. She made him a sign a pre nup the night before the wedding. She took robyn for granted and did not think she would ever leave.
@trinajohnson1833 жыл бұрын
As far as Whit, she did show a lot of mixed signals.....Robyn was "true to the game".....she tore her room up after finding out that Whitney slept with Jermaine, and thought she could keep it from Robyn. Whitney said one thing, regarding their "physical'....but then contradicted it and ripped pages out the bible she gave her....after finding out that someone else had Robyn's attention for just a few hours. Robyn allowed Whitney to have too much control in that affair from day one.....and it led to some problems. Robyn should have put her foot down about Whitney's control tactics long ago. Robyn should have put herself first while still being present for Whitney on the "work & business" end of it! Robyn failed herself more than Whitney failed her. Robyn needed to recognize her own beauty worth & talents. Whitney definitely unintentionally took it all for granted.....yes, she took Robyn for granted. Robyn persevered for that love....for years, and Whitney forgot all about the solid foundation. Robyn was suppose to leave way before yr 2000 but with everything she saw her friend, her love going through in her marriage, her career, her family, and the drugs......to Robyn, it became more of a protective role, trying to help Whitney stay focused & keep it together....for her child & her career. It wasn't so much about hopes for a continued affair anymore at that point. Whitney & Bobby were too wrapped up in each other(all the wrong reasons) for that. But we get it Robby, we too, understand true love, loyalty, dedication, & genuine care for someone. And it's not wrong....but there can be consequences....and unfortunately for Robby, she met the consequences of that. But thank God it wasn't too late for Robby.....God spared her mind & her heart, and put someone in her life that was suitable for her. Robyn deserves that 100%👌🏽
@rolynnsreviews3 жыл бұрын
@Trina Johnson You are 100% correct about everything that you stated!😊😊😊
@verahall649810 ай бұрын
I totally agree, very eloquently expressed 🎯💯👍👏
@lostindallas623 жыл бұрын
Robyn and Whitney were in LOVE doing da NEITHER ONE OF US Gladys Knight Song Dance! I will forever think Whit was giving Robyn pillow talk promises! So she stayed and Stayed! And FINALLY she got enough strength and SENSE to leave that toxic situation because with Bobby, da Houston's and da DRUGS.... She was being pushed out or could have been hurt by them!!! IT WAS TIME TO GOOOOO! 🏃🏽♀️🏃🏽♀️🏃🏽♀️ Glad she got OUT and found love with Lisa and is living her life with her beautiful family now.
@rolynnsreviews3 жыл бұрын
@Pam Degrate I wish that I could with you; but everything that you stated is painfully true! kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3W7kIubl7Jlmtk 😊😊😊
@PaulaMooney7173 жыл бұрын
Whitney needed to know how to function as a person. Everyone is not gonna always be there. Thank you Aunty Lola. 💕
@MZHARDBODYENT Жыл бұрын
Facts as seems as Whitney had a hard time being alone & her choice in men was horrible. I hate hearing that audio of Ray J saying how he was using her for fame & got her high when he wanted too smh
@Msk-wb1yg3 жыл бұрын
Commentary on point!!! I dont think Robyn should have left early in Whitney's career but should have lived separately. Folks often think Robyn could not let Whitney go but it was actually the other way.
@mariej.richard511411 ай бұрын
Yep it was nippy who could not let go it was her …cherry on top with Robyn book n the movie had too set it straight Bobby set it straight as well
@soundseeker63 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree the whole Bobby/Whitney/Robyn love triangle was very dysfunctional, but it was as much a reflection of the times in which it was happening as it was the character and choices of the individuals in question. We must remember that things were VERY different in the 80s and 90s as it relates to gay and bisexual people in the public eye. Whitney knew this all too well. She would also have been well aware that her family would not have accepted her having an openly gay relationship with Robyn, and probably her record label would have taken issue with it too. So regardless of how Whitney felt about Robyn, she knew the world was very much against her being "involved" in that sense and I honestly think that was just one more battle she didn't have it in her to fight. Look at the amount controversy and negativity in the press her marriage to Bobby Brown got in the first 5 years alone, then imagine what it would have been like if she and Robyn had come out as a couple.... It's easy for us to look back from the social climate of today where we have celebs even pretending to be gay, bi, trans, non-binary just to stay relevent, and conclude Whitney "wanted to have her cake and eat it" but I don't think thats fair. It was different times, different social norms and different pressures, but magnified a thousand times for a world famous super-star like Whitney. None of us live under that kind of pressure 24/7 so who are we to judge?
@Thegazelle10003 жыл бұрын
She didn't fire the dancers that Bobby was mess with, but she put her hands on him for that. Her bodyguard told a story on daily about how one day she surprised him in hotel with another woman and They had a huge fight.
@tamaranickeejones6253 Жыл бұрын
I wonder is that why she had the song HEARTBREAK HOTEL?
@Thegazelle1000 Жыл бұрын
@@tamaranickeejones6253 probably 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣...I never think about that.
@tamaranickeejones6253 Жыл бұрын
@@Thegazelle1000 I think so, they were going through it 😂🤷🏿♀️
@SnoopCatts Жыл бұрын
@@tamaranickeejones6253 nah, thas not why
@tamaranickeejones6253 Жыл бұрын
@@SnoopCatts oh, I said I wonder if?
@jincks2773 жыл бұрын
More ROBYN💕💕💕💕
@WH012Vids3 жыл бұрын
I find it interesting how Whitney didn’t fire Joy until AFTER the tour was over. So all that time after the situation occurred between Joy and Robyn, Whitney was planning to fire her. Wow. Whitney’s up there dancing with Joy and everything, knowing the whole time that she’s going to get rid of her.
@rolynnsreviews3 жыл бұрын
@WHO12Vids Now you know that Nippy wasn’t going for that! Lol!!! Check out my commentary on Whitney & Robyn!!!!!! kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3W7kIubl7Jlmtk 😊😊😊
@ericadanea1 Жыл бұрын
They was still hunching LOL
@lolaluvzyou Жыл бұрын
LOL!
@Msk-wb1yg3 жыл бұрын
The only problem I have with Robyn is her not speaking up. She suffered in silence for toooo long. She gave Whitney the impression she was cool with alot of things but she wasnt. She coulda saved herself alot of heartache if she had told Whitney ' I know we agreed to be just friends but its tearing me apart, I will continue to work for you but I gotta get my own spot.
@Thegazelle10003 жыл бұрын
Agree with you. If I was Robyn I would have started to date seriously someone else after Whitney got married.
@rolynnsreviews3 жыл бұрын
@@Thegazelle1000 I so agree with you!!! I talk about Whitney @Robyn’s relationship in my book review videos. kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3W7kIubl7Jlmtk 😊😊😊
@joshuamcdowell97453 жыл бұрын
Whitney's story reminds me a lot of Britney Spears. They both was controlled by their handlers and wasn't allow to make their own decisions or do something for them. And both of their families heavily depended on them financially. In regard to your topic, I 100% agree with you. Whitney was wrong for how she treated Robyn. They weren't together so Robyn should have been able to date whenever and whomever she wanted.
@felishamoorer52343 жыл бұрын
I agree totally 100 %!! Reading Robyn's book was an eye opener. Robyn stayed too long in that situation. She never really had any serious romantic relationships while working for Whitney because Whitney wasn't having it!! I love me some Whitney but she was kinda selfish when it came to emotionally allowing Robyn the freedom to find love like she was trying to have with Bobby ( BIG MISTAKE ) in my opinion. Robyn stayed way too long after Whitney got married but I know Robyn really loved Whitney. REALLY.... I wish they could have been/ stayed together. Wish Eddie would have wanted to marry Whitney if her & Robyn couldn't.
@Thegazelle10003 жыл бұрын
If I'm not mistaken Robyn met Lisa around the time of the bodyguard, so I believe that they were messing around for years. She might have not told Whitney about who she was seeing, but I can't believe that Robyn wasn't intimate with anyone for 20 years.
@felishamoorer52343 жыл бұрын
@@Thegazelle1000 I know right, that's hard to believe but it seems that way accordingly to her book.....
@rolynnsreviews3 жыл бұрын
@@Thegazelle1000 I do not believe that Robyn was not intimate with anyone for 20 years! I still believe that Whitney & Robyn would hook up from time to time! Lol!!! Robyn left a lot out of her book because she did not want to tarnish Whitney’s image. Heck out my commentary on Whitney & Robyn. kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3W7kIubl7Jlmtk 😊😊😊
@Thegazelle10003 жыл бұрын
@@rolynnsreviews I do believe that they were still going even after 1982, but after Bobby came in the picture (especially after the marriage ) they stop messing around : Whitney was too deep on Bobby).
@rolynnsreviews3 жыл бұрын
@@Thegazelle1000 You may be right; but I was thinking about the increased drug usage which often leads to lower inhibitions. Lol!🤣🤣🤣
@annemccafferty22793 жыл бұрын
I still think if people left her.alone she would of been with robyn & there 4 still b here hopefully luv robyn much luv lola.😉❣✌👊
@rolynnsreviews3 жыл бұрын
ROBYN AND WHITNEY WERE SOULMATES PERIOD!!!!❤️💕💜❤️💕💜❤️💕💜❤️💕💜❤️💕💜❤️💕💜❤️💕💜❤️💕💜❤️💕💜❤️💕💜❤️💕💜
@StewartStudiosTT3 жыл бұрын
Robin & Whitneys' story always hits home for me because everything about them reminds me of a situation I've been dealing with for YEARS on my end. We never DEFINED what was in my situation, she always had multiple men but always came back to me. I'm a Gemini so I get how strong the love was between Robby and Whitty. In my situation I have always been there for her regardless of what but it seems like as soon as I show I'm moving on, she would get extremely pressed about it. sigh I feel for Robyn because as I said everything about their story reminds me of mine. Sigh its' sad . Whitney is BAE but Whitney just wanted to lock Robyn in a cage and throw away the key. Like Robyn, I had hope but honestly as you said, somebody heart gets broken and sadly it was mine... It isn't and wasn't fair to Robyn because Whitney forgot that Robyn wanted to be happy to...it's only so long you gonna put up with that shit
@Thegazelle10003 жыл бұрын
You need to be strong enough to get out of that situation. If someone really loves you, he or she doesn't play with your heart.
@StewartStudiosTT3 жыл бұрын
@@Thegazelle1000 facts and moreso especially someone who is confused about who they really are
@whitneysource3 жыл бұрын
Oh man . 😳 they are playing with your emotions and wasting your time
@Thegazelle10003 жыл бұрын
@@StewartStudiosTT they might be confused, but acting like this makes you confused too. These people like Whitney or your girlfriend needs therapy.
@StewartStudiosTT3 жыл бұрын
@@Thegazelle1000 I found the strength three months ago. It's still a struggle especially something that been going on for 12 years. Like Robyn, I've been in the background watching her be happy and lived her life but I'm holding my end now. Thanks for the good words of encouragement
@ladytreeka66663 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree with everything mix signals are not good at all and things shouldve been made clear a long time ago
@jacquelinemosley32283 жыл бұрын
They Loved Each Other But Robin Also Enjoyed The Fringe Benefits Of The Relationship 💜🌹💖🎶
@verahall649810 ай бұрын
I totally agree, Robyn had her palms greased both professionally as well as personally, Whitney gifted her lots of times and to be totally honest with you I often wondered just what did happen to all of the money that Whitney paid her over the years because I 'm sure that she was paid handsomely. Robyn seemed to be always borrowing money or living with someone, somewhat just like a drifter, so yeah just what did she do with all of her money,? So very happy that you've mentioned this because I was feeling the exact same way. Thanks you so much for your very honest input 💯👍
@brionashantee37573 жыл бұрын
I mean it was mixed signals in their relationship.
@DaBratlife2 жыл бұрын
Exactly and that is very sad to say but that's how it was years ago if you were a lesbian, gay, or bisexual you had to keep it on the low. As it was strongly advised from her parents, Clive Davis, her management team, publicist etc. I truly believe that Whitney felt like Robyn was her soul mate, they loved each other unconditionally. In the documentary WHITNEY CAN I BE ME (probably the best honest portrayal of her life in my opinion) Bobby Brown was even quoted saying when Whitney died after her funeral, that if Robyn would have been truly accepted in Whitney's life he strongly believed she would still be alive today. Also Robyn leaving broke Whitney's heart but Robyn hated Bobby and vice versa they were always fighting for her attention, affection Whitney was always playing the referee, Robyn had enough and told Whitney to choose and the rest is history.
@cherylmoffat34972 жыл бұрын
My opinion, Whitney Houston was in love with the idea for being in love with Robyn Crawford, if she was really in love with Robyn she would have been with her. In spite of the fame. Whitney did not love Robyn enough. Nothing can come between true Love not money and fame,
@xoxoloveable68452 жыл бұрын
This is True!
@vesper4199 Жыл бұрын
I think she did and that suppression came in the form of severe drug abuse
@whitneybrown40673 жыл бұрын
Greetings Lola hope u r well n Happy Tuesday😀n what a Wonderful Vlog.... thanks n I so Agree with u in that Since Nippy Wasn’t Being Authentic with Herself.... Any1 Around Her Wasn’t Gonna B Good Either😩😪cause the More u r Real with u Than Things can B Better in your Life🔥👍n Continue Blessings💜n P.S: Robyn Got Caught But Thank God She’s Free Now👏⭐️....
@rolynnsreviews3 жыл бұрын
Excellent commentary as usual Lola!!!❤️💕💜❤️💕💜❤️💕💜❤️💕💜❤️💕💜❤️💕💜❤️💕💜❤️💕💜❤️💕💜
@Thegazelle10003 жыл бұрын
Whitney and Robyn's relationship was too deep, it was more than sex (difficult to explain). Robyn was someone that she could count on, someone who really care about her and always try to keep her on the ground. Whitney couldn't find these kind of person in her family and neither in Bobby, She knew that and that's why she didn't want to let her go. But I have to admit that sometimes Whitney was a little bit selfish and Robyn was little bit dumb , I mean she didn't need to tell the truth about Joy and she could have smashed others girls who weren't part of the crew without telling anything to Whitney.
@antimatterwave37473 жыл бұрын
Who is joy ?
@Thegazelle10003 жыл бұрын
@@antimatterwave3747 one of Whitney's dancers
@antimatterwave37473 жыл бұрын
@@Thegazelle1000 what happened with joy?
@Hi.Shadow3 жыл бұрын
@@antimatterwave3747 Robyn went on a date with Joy and was intimate with her. Once Whitney got wind of it she went into a jealous rage and fired Joy.
@CleanMusicLover2293 жыл бұрын
I believe "Joy" is actually Leesa Humphrey.
@landyray21492 жыл бұрын
No, I think Whitney LOVED and PROMISED Robyn to stay by her side whatever that meant. Whitney was steadfast and grounded in her beliefs in Jesus and what the bible says about same sex relations. I think if the bible didn't condemn homosexuality, she would have stayed with Robyn 100%. Also her family is still very much so homophobic and that most likely ate at Whitney and made her hate herself deeply. Whitney just wanted to sing and be loved, Robyn was the closest she got to love, then she put on an act for the world with Bobby. She lost everything, though she deserved better, a Princess that Grew to be a Queen, ravaged by the world by 48. We did NOT deserve her.
@CleanMusicLover2293 жыл бұрын
I believe "Joy" is Leesa Humphrey. Her and Khandi Alexander were the only two female dancers.
@mariej.richard511410 ай бұрын
What was she slapping her if she did not care that’s crazy
@patfrancoeur7653 жыл бұрын
ON POINT LOLA
@Tee-yf9ss8 ай бұрын
I meet Whitney Houston when she wasn't famous' in a gay club, call boney and Clyde, years ago we dated but she was so young at that time, I wasn't interested in her, so I cut it short, I liked, older women I felt I broke nippy heart, I'm sorry I did, such a sad ending for her at 48 years old. wow I'm so sorry she went so soon. 14:54
@thequintessential55033 жыл бұрын
It’s ironic how Robyn looks so much like Whitney. Robyn Fenty wants to play Whitney in a movie. She married an ex husband who’s name was Robert, worked with Robert Kelly. 🤔
@TremellluvYah Жыл бұрын
I thought Joy was fired during the tour. I think that tour Joy was on wasn't in 1988. Whitney didn't use backup dancers til the 90s.
@saffirechanning72863 жыл бұрын
Hey Lola! I just don't BELIEVE that Whitney LOVED Robyn romantically. It's my OPINION that Whitney LOVED Robyn more like the SISTER that she always wanted but never had. I suspect that Robyn NEVER fully ACCEPTED that until she finally left Whitney's organization. That's my personal opinion.
@tonijames94822 жыл бұрын
Where’s the footage of Robyn at 7:05 from please?
@lolaluvzyou2 жыл бұрын
Angie and Debbie Winans Light of Love Music Video, Whitney is featured in it as well.
@tonijames94822 жыл бұрын
@@lolaluvzyou thank you ✨
@faithmapstone99827 ай бұрын
At the end of the day, Whitney Houston is dead. Does anyone know WHY?