Who are the best Test captains in history? | Crickpicks EP 10

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We uploaded this episode earlier this week on Thursday, and due some technically difficulty, the second half of the podcast was out of sync. Thank you to all the listeners for having pointed out the glitch in the comments. This is a re-upload of that episode after having fixed the issue. Hope you enjoy our picks on "Who are the best Test captains in history?" - The production team.

[@Soumik_Mondal_fullstack_dev]

Jarrod just asking, do u think captaincy all about tactics I think attitude and leadership matters but how much???

[@jessica.bell.000]

1:09 - Estelle picks Steve Waugh (E1) 1:58 - Jarrod picks Douglas Jardine (J1) 3:18 - Behram and Jarrod argue over Steve Waugh 4:20 - Behram picks Graeme Smith (B1) 7:47 - Behram picks Misbah-ul-Haq (B2) 9:44 - Jarrod talks about Suzie Bates 10:22 - Jarrod picks Arjuna Ranatunga (J2) 12:38 - Estelle picks Virat Kholi (E2) 13:50 - Estelle picks Michael Vaughan (E3) 15:18 - Behram compares Virat Kholi to MS Dhoni 15:55 - Jarrod picks Warrick Armstrong (J3) 18:16 - Behram picks Ben Stokes (B3) 20:52 - Behram picks Kane Williamson (B4) 22:45 - Jarrod picks MS Dhoni (J4) 24:31 - Estelle picks Mahela Jayawardene (E4) 26:21 - Estelle picks Hansie Cronje (E5) 27:41 - Jarrod compares Hansie Cronje to Graeme Smith 29:38 - Jarrod picks Clive Lloyd (J5) 33:00 - Behram and Jarrod talks about Ricky Ponting 33:15 - Behram talks about Andrew Strauss 33:35 - Behram picks Sourav Ganguly (B5) 36:15 - Honourary mentions 36:25 - Jarrod talks about Walter Hadlee 37:24 - Jarrod talks about Jeremy Coney 37:37 - Jarrod talks about Martin Crowe 37:52 - Jarrod talks about Mike Brearley 38:39 - Jarrod talks about Mark Taylor 39:11 - Behram talks about Andrew Strauss and Imran Khan 40:11 - Estelle talks about Clive Lloyd and Imran Khan 40:36 - Going back over the list 41:14 - Epilogue and wrap-up

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[@raheelakhtar7]

Frank Worrell guys! There’s a trophy named after him and he was the first black captain of WI (Aus series 1960-61 with the tied test). Other than that, Imran Khan who just brought Pak players together and start winning series. Ian Chappell, Mark Taylor, not to mention Shane Warne (the guy who didn’t captain but should have)!

[@LongFormPiece]

The captain Behram was thinking of was Brian Close. Recalled to the England team for a series against the West Indies in 1976, at the age of 45, he had to face Michael Holding, Wayne Daniel and Andy Roberts...without a helmet. He had made his test debut 27 years earlier in 1949. You should google pictures of him after the one particular innings where he batted for almost three hours. I would be surprised if a tougher man has ever played for England.

[@rihitjamb3757]

Crazy how Fleming and mark Taylor weren’t top 5 for anyone

[@prachotandevulapalli6670]

I really really expected Mike Breareley to end up in the top 15.

[@amansparekh]

Yep, he is an amazing man manager

[@ritwikism]

Even as a MSD fan, rating MSD above Virat in Test captaincy makes no sense to me...

[@rajukunghadkar702]

Jarrod prefers on field calls and tactics for rating Captaincy, so it shouldn't surprise you to see Dhoni. He is one of the best tactician of the game. People rag on him for away losses and being defensive but he didn't have the bowling strength that Rohit and Kohli had that could take 20 wickets. He also didn't have the spin duo of Ash-Jaddu for most of India's home games, even then his run from 2008-2010 was really good. He was harshly blamed for the 2011 whitewashes in Eng and Aus but India's batting order was aging out and out of form. That tour caused Laxman and Dravid to retire. He had to lead a side that was in transition to play 4 consecutive SENA series.

[@rohitmeiksharma]

Jarrod such a nerd detached from reality. He is talking about ghosts and angels.

[@AmanKumar-de1kc]

Detached from the narrative, but closer to reality

[@varunakavoor]

I really love Jarrod talking about cricket.

[@ayushsinha1813]

Ranatunga, M. Taylor, I. Chappell, McCullum, Lloyd. Shoutout to Stokes

[@superstar_h_gamer5211]

Dhoni? Donnie literally left us 7th and got whitewashed twice away to England and Australia. That's nowhere close to the others

[@ayushsinha1813]

@@superstar_h_gamer5211 Oh, I copy pasted from my notes.

[@shaunakkulhalli]

Stokes? For what? Man has captained 22 tests. I swear folks will jump on any bandwagon. England are 7th in the ICC test championship points table

[@ayushsinha1813]

@@shaunakkulhalli I don't judge captains by win percentage, which is still high for Stokes. Think about it, how many teams with 3 spinners in their debut series, who are twitter picks come out relatively unscathed after 4 tests against Indian batting? Also, these are pretty much the same players who had won 1/17 tests before his captaincy, this is a remarkable improvement by any means. I wonder how you would rate Ranatunga as a test captain then.

[@ritwikism]

What Jarrod says and the basis of his picks are straight up opposites. He keeps talking about how changing the slips and bowling changes is not captaincy, but then goes on and on about how his picks are good tactically or how Behram/Estelle's picks aren't that good tactically. Stay with one script mate.

[@RishiAnupam]

I think A Cricketing View had the right idea about captaincy (touched upon by Jarrod at the very end as well). That it's very difficult to judge captaincy, for a multitude of reasons. Expanding upon (paraphrasing?) that point, I think this is because: (a) a lot of it happens off the field and in concert with the support staff (especially in modern cricket), (b) a lot of it is attitude-matching (i.e., a stick captain won't do well with a team composed of carrot people and vice versa), and (c) most of it is just making the obvious decisions and having the rub of the green. Does that make sense?

[@TheLeftie600]

Kane Williamson is not rated as the best NZ test captain, good but not great. Fleming is miles ahead of him.

[@Sky-ob6vz]

Where can I read the Graeme smith captaincy story?

[@amansparekh]

Mike brearley? One of the best man managers in the history of cricket?

[@M.C.N.1020]

Do best players make best Captain or best Captain make best players so then ????

[@santugk]

Dhoni MS Arjuna Ranatunga Graeme Smith Mark Taylor Clive Loyd Ben Stokes Everyone else in the list is rubbish!!

[@RC-ym5cm]

Dhoni?? More than half of the captains in the list are better than him...

[@anirudhaagrawal2769]

I would pick stokes higher

[@THEGREATOnE]

Behram wins this I guess

[@potter4438]

Lads how tf do you have such lower views ? Such a great podcast and coming from a guy who doesn’t like podcasts… I hope you lot keep doing this and not get discouraged about such lower view counts

[@tpjpower]

Jarrod has some weird takes, but he’s a real cricket nuffy. Behram and Estelle don’t seem to know much at all about cricket.

[@Aveyzek]

Where is ajinkya rahane in this list?????

[@DipakkrJha]

What about rahane...😢

[@bhargav38]

Lol Behram - ben stokes is better than the greatest captains ??

[@tpjpower]

STEVE WAUGH no. 1? 😂😂😂 A lump of moss would have his record with that team in that era…

[@akshaymate954]

Greatest 30 Test Captains in History: 1. Steve Waugh 2. Don Bradman 3. Clive Llyod 4. Ricky Ponting 5. Viv Richards 6. Arjuna Ranatunga 7. Douglas Jardine 8. Warrick Armstrong 9. Mike Brearley 10. Pat Cummins 11. Ian Chappell 12. Richie Benaud 13. Arthur Hassett 14. Hansei Cronje 15. Michael Vaughan 16. Graeme Smith 17. Shaun Pollock 18. Kane Williamson 19. Len Hutton 20. Ray Illingworth 21. Javed Miandad 22. Virat Kohli 23. Steve Smith 24. Andrew Strauss 25. Mark Taylor 26. Misbah Ul Haq 27. Peter May 28. MS Dhoni 29. Imran Khan 30. Mahela Jayawardene

[@ASHISHMISHRA-qd5sz]

Kimber has lost it

[@rohitpratap4174]

This is the classic assembly of 'experts' based on most social media era fan opinions and calling an 'all time best". Only one has decent knowledge of more than 1/4 of Test history. Jarrod should have done this alone 🙏🏻

[@mohanphadnis]

These guys picked kane, misbah, vaughn and kohli over Imran khan? How?

[@yashdaware2458]

Why would anyone pick Kohli?

[@rishnavthadani4068]

There's the hate from Rohit fans