Who are the GOOD Daedra? - The Reclamations - Elder Scrolls Lore

[@EraiCZ]

Vigillants of Stendarr wants to know your location.

[@EvilRaccoonDM]

They're all dead though. Thanks to the vampire crisis

[@emperortenebrisemeraldwing8578]

@@EvilRaccoonDM thank you Volkihar

[@dershogun6396]

@@EvilRaccoonDM Then why did I meet some today on the roads In skyrim even though i have already played through the main quest line of dawn guard?

[@holczy0]

@@dershogun6396 rebels

[@dershogun6396]

@@holczy0 well but thenn they're not all dead .

[@_gold_eye_2656]

Not all daedra are evil but I would say none are benevolent

[@CrusaderofLight1]

Agreed. I would say they are not good but fair.

[@pyromaniac000000]

Except Meridia. I mean, hating daedra and undead and caring for humanity makes Meridia the goodest of Daedra, despite what Veloth thinks.

[@pyromaniac000000]

Sam Guevenne still way better than Mephala. Fucking spider bitch.

[@buttsagonton101]

@Sam Guevenne but she is only for the sake if balance. 9 major Aedras and 18 major Daedras. I think the rules were that there were twice as many Daedras than Aedras. If there were three more Major Daedras that came out of nowhere then the wheel is imbalanced. Meaning that either another divine deity will rise or Meridia will be divine.

[@nomousecat]

@@buttsagonton101 There's only 17 Daedric Princes. Lorkhan is not a Daedra nor an Aedra, plus he's dead.

[@grievouslytired7886]

Theres something just so great about how Boethias shitting out Malacath was a key event leading up to the settling of Morrowind by the Chimer.

[@Bitterman5868]

its Because Boethiah loves to beat trinimac at every corner, she is Daedric Tsukuyo from Gintama.

[@tut28Angel]

@@Observant213 sometimes shes a female sometimes male. The princes can be either at anytime. Like Mol bal (sorry if I missed spelled that) is the father of vampires and known to be a male most of the time. But there's a book in Skyrim where Mol is a female.

[@bronoculars2551]

Man, the dunmer are really the pinnacle of Elder Scrolls lore.

[@sylph4252]

Have you heard of bosmer and the Green Pact?

[@bronoculars2551]

@@sylph4252 Well yes. There is plenty of awesome and interesting lore in TES, but i just find how the dunmer are so philosophically different, and how that affects their culture super interesting.

[@thomastakesatollforthedark2231]

Bronoculars what about Orcs?

[@ImperatorTrajun]

*plays Morrowind one time*

[@bronoculars2551]

@@ImperatorTrajun I didn't wanna come off like a morrowind elitist.

[@connorhill6520]

Azura is a good daedra cause she's dummy thicc, and encourages the dark elves to follow suite

[@LeonM4c]

Sera, I'm trying to worship Azura, but I'm too DUMMY THICC, and the clap of my ass cheeks is alerting the Bone Lords.

[@LeonM4c]

@SylentEcho she do be hella THICC tho

[@josejuanrosales3614]

Wish sexy thicc dibella was a daedra prince but you know .. Lore

[@alpharius1015]

Y'all sleeping on malacath, he's got legs for days

[@AMan-ct1gu]

Y'all are so uneducated, jyggalag is obviously the thiccest daedra. Bih was so thicc all of the other daedra had to seal him/her (idfk daedras are genderless aliens)

[@Snairster]

40 years from now: Fudgemuppet's recent video: *Which ants on the stump in Riverwood are good?*

[@ra_alf9467]

The one who have 8 legs

[@A._is_for]

@@ra_alf9467 nope, he stole my sweet roll

[@loraelstad8941]

Ra Alf So, spiders? Because ants only have 6 legs. Spiders have 8.

[@television321man]

i'd consider watching it

[@Aristocles22]

We'll get to that level soon enough if TES VI isn't out this decade.

[@ernieduran6589]

I would love to see Malacath get revenge on Boethiah, or Jyggalag get even with the other daedra.

[@Kirbyroth]

that would be cool and we have the perfect fighting arena the Maelstrom Arena make the princes run the arena and fight each other Fa-Nuit-Hen would love it.

[@AlphaMike-vh3wx]

Amen

[@reeformii1811]

Malacath is gonna get fucked up by those 2

[@TheLoneCourier2077]

@@Observant213 that's hot

[@ThePrinceofPlots]

@@Observant213 s(he) already did lol she shat him out like damn it doesn’t get worse

[@worldman3218]

Meridia and Azura come to mind. Hircine and Peryite as well.

[@buttsagonton101]

Isn't Peryite the weakest of the 18? He's the deadric prince of diseases right?

[@sylph4252]

@@buttsagonton101 he's the prince of natural order. He is powerful, just doesn't intervene.

[@buttsagonton101]

@@sylph4252 but because of that he's unfortunately considered weak... But why is his form that of a dragon?

[@unslaadkrosis3489]

Peryite is blight, famine and disease. Hircine is the brutality inherent to nature. They’re neutral deities at best.

[@pbacon95]

@@buttsagonton101 I think it is to mock the appearance of Akatosh. That or the natural order begins and ends with Dragons.

[@orchid5996]

Hey fudge! When are ya gonna stop by the afterlife again? I’m saving some really good colovian brandy for ya

[@FudgeMuppet]

Soon!

[@orchid5996]

FudgeMuppet lookin forward to it!

[@buttsagonton101]

STOP! YOU'VE VIOLATED THE LAW! PAY THE COURT A FINE, OR SERVE YOUR SENTENCE! LAST I'VE KNOWN, FREELY CROSSING REALMS REQUIRED MANY HUMAN BODY PARTS... JUST WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THE PARTS?!

[@_gold_eye_2656]

Buttsagonton the war is happening I just get them from the soldiers who die all the time!

[@Kirbyroth]

@@buttsagonton101 Bought from a local Bosmer market

[@dawatchng]

Some interesting shrine art of the Dunmer", with the tribunal/saints with their anticipations/good daedra 10:42 Sotha Sil and Azura 11:09 Vivec (all two of him) and Mephala 11:22 Almalexia and Boethiah

[@TheSuperRatt]

Boethiah, Prince of DECEIT: "I have some truths to tell ya, my lad." *winks* Prophet Veloth: "...Go on." Why anyone would take anything the Daedric Lord of deceit has to say at face value is beyond me. I think it's actually much more likely that Boethiah just wanted to fuck with the Altmer and splinter them, gaining more worshipers in the process while denying multitudes from the Aedra. Like any good lie he spoke elements of truth, but corrupted segments and left out details to bend events in his favor. It's literally in his nature to mislead, misinform and lie to get what he wants.

[@ericcloud1023]

Haha I know right? Who takes the god of compulsive liars at face value!

[@RedOrm68]

Well, if he hadn't, we would not be playing the Elder Scrolls, now would we?

[@OniGanon]

The greatest deceivers don't need to lie. You can be reasonably sure that what they say is true. It's what they're NOT telling you that you need to worry about.

[@Kirbyroth]

wasn't just words she literally shat out Trimmac in front him and his followers course he left out the fact that mephala stab Trimmac in the back during the fight so that Boethia would win

[@thehellenicneopagan]

Boethiah isn't JUST simply the Prince of deceit, she also encompasses rebellion, betrayal, and conspiracy... Amongst other things. Thus instigating a rebellion amongst the Chimer against the Altmer and ultimately against the Aedra fits rather well within Her domain. The gaining followers part, not so much as she doesn't really care much for worship. As has been overly emphasized.

[@decrepify3443]

4:30 AM and what am I doing? Watching Fudgemuppet of course!

[@justasleebylilguylittlesle1496]

Oh wow, same

[@justasleebylilguylittlesle1496]

I actually saw this earlier and put it off, that's crazy

[@ra_alf9467]

Me : 7:41 pm

[@pouriaabadsafian]

you’re gonna get sick

[@justasleebylilguylittlesle1496]

I work graveyard shifts so this is normal for me

[@windhelmguard5295]

i feel the common interpretations of the good daedra are the result of idealistic ideas of morality, whereas someone with a realistic view would quickly recognize how important they are so here are a few questions: is it not good to end or prevent a war, which could cost thousands of lives, by murdering one king? is it not good to take up arms to rise above and dethrone a despot or an incompetent king? is it not good to humble the wicked and provide guidance to the faithful?

[@Jarulf4477]

Honestly, that could be a quote from one of the many excellent lore and religious books in-game.

[@totallylost7683]

Wherever they are. I will find them. And I will slootify them

[@Adam64]

I wish you good fortune in your noble quest!

[@ravindunandirathna1600]

ill stand by you when the day comes,dovahkiin

[@loraelstad8941]

3 more yet shall stand with you & proclaim: “You have my whip.” “And you have MY chains!” “And my handcuffs!”

[@sheogorath6196]

I'm a good Daedra because I rain cheese and cabbage down from the Shivering Isles!

[@ivans.5959]

You don't look like Sheogorath

[@darkangel6278]

Best daedra out there

[@Xolcm]

Fudgemuppet, you should make a video comparing Ulfric and Vivec, because it is scary how many similarities they have: They are both the de-facto but not official rulers of the province in which their game is based. They both have a rocky relationship with the Empire. They both want what's best for their own race, but less so for the other races, and the Argonions have it especially bad. In the city that they rule from, outsiders have to live in one section. They both wield power derived from Tonal Arcitecture. They both came to power after killing the previous leader, but nobody can agree on the exact details, and whether or not they murdered them. They're both willing to make sacrifices to preserve what power they have: Ulfric will give up Riften in the peace talks in order to kick out the Thalmor, and Vivec gave Tiber Septim the Numidium in order to secure more autonomy for Morrowind.

[@roadhouse6999]

Wait, the Thu'um is derived from tonal architecture? It's been a while since I've dabbled in TES lore but Mind = Blown

[@darionlevanowitz6736]

No. Tonal architecture had nothing to do with the thu'um and neither are the thu'um and the heart of lorkhan related. Different powers. Very different.

[@95Bartlett]

Yes the powers are different but they’re source is similar. On a superficial level the names are both sound related, shouting and tonal architecture. What they both allow is for the users to rewrite the laws of nature. When you shout you’re willing something into existence like frost, fire, a storm, clearing the sky, becoming ethereal, making animals not pissed at you etc. all without using your magicka pool. Tonal architecture does the same thing it’s how the dwarves built their complicated metal alloy that no one in modern Tamriel can replicate. The dwarven metal was used to build everything in dwarven society from their weapons of war, buildings, automatons, and all the way down to their pots and pans. And these constructs are still standing in the 4th era with no decay/rust. It’s because tonal architecture allowed them to change the laws of nature and create a super metal.

[@roadhouse6999]

@@95Bartlett you'd think Dwarven weapons would be better, all things considered. Hell, if it can change the very *laws* of nature, it could do a lot more then just make a superalloy, especially in our world. The speed of causality is a law of nature, and it's the only thing holding light back from going infinitely fast.

[@MrMeow-iq7kq]

@@roadhouse6999 he got it wrong... He meant to say Tonal Magic. tonal architecture is a subset of tonal magic just as Thu'um is a subset of tonal magic. They are both derived from Tonal Magic, but otherwise completely unrelated. We also have sword singing and green singing derived from Tonal Magic.... but hell if I know what any of it means.

[@Eldritch_13]

12:24 Azura lookin THICC

[@Aethuviel]

They have some mod that makes all the female Daedra and Aedra statues look really... sultry. I frankly can't stand it. Especially super-busty Mara, it looks so out of place.

[@DCdabest]

It's more that the Good Daedra are the "Benefactors" and the Bad Daedra are the "Opponents".

[@CamSiv996]

I'm glad there's elaboration about "The Good Daedra." Thanks Fudgemuppet. I think there should be a comment about our personal Pantheons for players on what gods they worship from The Elder Scrolls games.

[@AG26498]

The dunmer faith is very similar to ancient Turkic beliefs. Azura for example is straight up a reference for the spirit Umay. Aspect of motherhood and discipline.

[@jefthereaper]

Honestly its inrelevant, Aedra and Daedra dont represent good and evil, they represent order and chaos. Makes you wonder who of the Aedra are actually Lawfully Evil. What if Akatosh was the actual betrayer instead of Lorkhan? A egomaniac that just like his Dragon children stands for domination and control.

[@AkatsukiBoss13]

While my favorite TES race is the Argonians, I find the Dunmer to be the most interesting TES and easily one of the most interesting Elves in all of fiction. Everything about their society and culture is just fascinating, especially their Faith. Hell, TES: Morrowind was the most creative Bethesda's been in decades now.

[@TomppaP85]

Whenever I see notification of a new dunmer culture video by FudgeMuppet it always makes my day!

[@justasleepparalysisdemonwi8719]

This to me is more important then breakfast in this morning, a fudge muppet elder scrolls video first thing.

[@sorinruga3434]

I got this reccomended on yt right next to The Tribunal video and I can feel the tension

[@bryankelly335]

We NEED a video on the *_36/37 Lessons of Vivec_* .! Please *_:D_*

[@p.samedi2473]

There is one around

[@unregisteredassaultbutterk1185]

Dark elves are the most interesting of the races, maybe tied with argonians

[@Spartan-bl4pq]

Charles Châtenay for President 1900 stupid elf

[@johnhamm706]

Worship Daedra, Smoke Skooma. It is that simple

[@goodlese]

Except for the fact that you drink skooma not smoke.

[@johnhamm706]

ahh, you are new to the lore friend.

[@talotway]

@@goodlese not sure if it would work but id mix it with moon sugar then throw it in a bowl and smoke it like people smoke crack

[@KS-wy6ky]

Junkies are considrred degenerates in Dunmer society, just lik vampires.

[@darrylweathers7361]

@@KS-wy6ky but i enjoy my intelligence being drained.

[@mininitelite9789]

I wouldn’t say any Daedra are purely good but some agendas or their personas aline with the side of good rather than evil, for example Meridia.

[@LordMortanius]

Meridia was the patron of one of the worst of the Ayleid sorcerer-kings, and was the reason Alessia made her covenant with Akatosh.

[@SingingSealRiana]

What does Meridia do? What is her domain? Have not realy heard of her jet . . .

[@SwanTeeth]

@@SingingSealRiana well mostly in game she just hates the undead, she's kind of a weird daedra in the fact that she may actually be a magna ge who just influences oblivion rather than a true daedra their sphere according to some sources is life and energy(whatever that means)

[@TheNN]

'Good' Daedra? *laughs in Dagoth Ur*

[@darrylweathers7361]

Come lay down your weapons. It is not too late for my mercy.

[@defaultthedude]

I’m a god, how can you kill a god?

[@probablynotasith5355]

"Good" doesn't necessarily mean "Nice". Just ask any Neutral or Chaotic Good D&D character in existence

[@miltonfilho4093]

I created an old orc build, but you have to play very carefully because this build as well as that random encounter of the old orc. our character seeks a good death however if we die it is considered permanent death

[@_Reverse_Flash]

I love these mini philosophy classes!

[@MankarCamoran8799]

So the padomaic theology which then derived into dunmer's reclamation myth centers around similar existential philosophy of Nietzsche, on how those three supposed daedric princes were to represent the act of nobility, of dunmer becoming masters not the slaves (well this can be taken out literally when they're also enslaving argonians XD). But it's a pretty interesting take, and I would see how the Anuic theology represent what Nietzsche have been criticizing the most, of treating existence as mere suffering and imprisonment.

[@SinnerBeta]

The only good Daedra is a dead Daedra. Stendarr's mercy be upon you, for the Vigil has none to spare.

[@69inetails]

I find it ironic tht vigil to the god of mercy and justice isn’t so merciful.

[@Tao-fp3yr]

@@69inetails I think he is. In his own way. Much of the Elder Scrolls is about perspective, and, from the perspective of Stendarr, the Daedra and their worshippers are evil and are thus deserving of justice rather than mercy. He probably would accept Daedric converts with remorse thus displaying his mercy.

[@rejvaik00]

Not for Hircine

[@knightsotl796]

If youre so obsesed in your quest of extermination of daedra as evil beings explain why so goddamn many people worship them ,Azura as a standout example....?

[@roadhouse6999]

@@knightsotl796 Jupiter (Aka Zeus) was kind of an asshole and people worshipped him. Hell, people worship fuckin Satan. It's like saying "why are you against communism if so many people are communists?" Obviously there's an argument to be had there but I doubt that claim is gonna be part of it.

[@TheAtlarchy]

That explains why my character in Skyrim... A Dunmer... Always takes any opportunity to do quests for daedras, including Molac Bal, but is always insulting the evil daedra...

[@SIR.scufington]

The only thing harder than fighting the ebony warrior.. Is me when I seen a nocturnal

[@taylormacmillan544]

Just wanted to say; Hippity Hoppity Argonians are property

[@kanrahatake3626]

State such truth

[@Tao-fp3yr]

Typical Dunmer. Tough online. Cries when the An-Xileel pulls up.

[@O.M-]

Shut up

[@munchies4532]

@@Tao-fp3yr What's up my fellow lizzerd 😉

[@Tao-fp3yr]

@@munchies4532 big up all my marsh friends worldwide.

[@Scorecatron]

Malacath, Azura, Nocturnal and Meridia are the first ones that come to my mind...

[@loraelstad8941]

Thank you Scott of FudgeMuppet for this interesting view of the Daedra. It is refreshing to see historical & cultural context and discuss the subjectivity of the meaning behind terms “good” or “evil.” There is usually 2 or more sides to any story. I am really unsure what Daedra or Aedra I would personally choose, given all the knowledge I have gained about them over time. Sometimes, I envision some kind of Dark Crystal situation, where 2 halves (good/bad aspects) were torn asunder (perhaps during the time of the Ehlnofey) would, at a prophecies time, rejoin your become 1. That was a cool concept. But it wouldn’t work for this lore construction & the imbalance between the 2 sides.

[@zackfair_og]

Once dreamt Vaermina sent me to her plane of Oblivion and we fell in love. She was hot af.

[@hamzaferoz6162]

Nocturnal is the Hottest

[@sixkiller6]

is that you, Arkved?

[@zackfair_og]

@@sixkiller6 nope just a horny young adult

[@suuryasuprapto9472]

Lol

[@ananz9233]

*She’s deceiving you*

[@ibrahimdeniz364]

Elder Scrolls 6 is getting released in 2025. It's based in Hammerfell and High Rock, and its main quest has a lot to do with the Direnni adamantine tower.

[@alexandermutter929]

2022

[@zullumaster123]

2077, to compete with cyberpunk

[@ronwilson9815]

Thanks, I've always wondered why Meridia wasn't considered one of the good Daedra.

[@FnRenner]

The "good" Daedra are the ones with fun or challenging artifact missions. Morality doesn't compute when stats and buffs get involved.

[@dorkydragon5055]

Molags a bit of a dick, but that mace tho.

[@ocean7849]

@@dorkydragon5055 a bit? He's just the deadra of all bad things. God of rape etc. Let's not forget he raped a woman to death, just because he was mad at Arkay.

[@Thomlin12]

So, Boethiah?

[@pensador6953]

Final frase= truth Let go of your preconseption to truly enter in ones mind That is extremely needed nowadays

[@hmmm.74]

Before watching, I already know the deadra prince of dusk and dawn is one from the loading screens.

[@georelbonai8244]

My Lovely daedra is Meridia, She didn't ask me to kill/ sacrifice Innocent people like any Daedra instead she ask me to return her beacon and kill a man who stole her beacon for his own purpose. I mean Goddamn I just fell in love with Daedra.

[@digishade7583]

I would say that there are daedra that while considered evil may just be neutral and to some of these daedra the saying what can be given can also be taken away can apply, Peryite is an example of this as one of his worshippers is Kesh the clean who you get Peryite’s quest from

[@charmine953]

Hail the reclamation!

[@qcumber6652]

Barbas is the most friendly at least.

[@metalmaria26]

Thank you for more Morrowind lore! This one had bothered me because I don't like doing 2 out of 3 quests for these daedra. Please do more videos about TES III. I love the overhauled game.

[@Spartan-bl4pq]

Vornalph nerd

[@atlas93928]

@@Spartan-bl4pq why are you here then

[@Spartan-bl4pq]

Hero0fKvatch 9392 your smart figure it out yourself

[@captaincrunchiii158]

Azura cursed the whole dunmer people when three reached transcendence. Vivec even reaches CHIM (the whole point of the psijic endeavor). Perhaps they went about it the wrong way but they are the only three we know of who have actually come close to completing lorkahn’s wish for mortals

[@drazzytime9353]

I’m surprised in a video about Good daedra you didnt mention Meridia

[@greesamu]

This is so esoteric I feel like it needed a prequel 101 course

[@Roaming_Hermit]

Man, the house of reclamations had some of the greatest artifacts imo. Ebony Mail, Ebony Blade and The Black Star? Badass combination! And that's just what you could get in skyrim 😁

[@rickkcir2151]

Technically the Black Star is the corrupted version and is no longer Azura’s artifact.

[@Roaming_Hermit]

@@rickkcir2151 Fair point, although even the non-corrupted version can be immensely powerful. But yeah, totally forgot about that 😅

[@Random_Chiroptera]

Still hoping for that detailed video on the Yokudan Deities.

[@Snairster]

8 people haven't been to the cloud district very often.

[@valeclaw1697]

Make a Khajiit Build for the Twilight Cantor?

[@ninnoofthelastunicorn]

I'm in the boat that the lessons these Daedra offer are good, but as every religion has good lessons to take from. Yet, blind faith will always bring about ruin. Even Boethia warns about that.

[@mesektet5776]

Phh, don't tell me to keep an open mind without my brain breaking, I've been to the Shivering Isles! And as for your "Good" Daedra the fact is if they were that good how much better must Jyggalag have been?

[@unholymadman7024]

FUDGE MUPPET A CHALLENGE FOR U Make a build revolving around the shield

[@kujo4388]

Looks like cetrion in the thumbnail

[@vonhoenhine1922]

Great video.

[@Spacefrisian]

But what about lore adding to ES from mods, would be nice to hear your take on it and how plausible those big mods are in regards to established lore. Mods like Falskaar, Midwood or Maids 2 Deception.

[@jakub134]

So, they are the ultimate version of "no pain, no gain".

[@PegasusBrill]

Fun fact, that story with Trinimac getting eaten by Boethia also involved Boethia shitting Trinimac out eventually, which some of his followers rubbed said shit on themselves, Trinimac ended up turning into Malacath and his followers became the orcish people

[@collinbrown9407]

A fudge I was wondering what about nocturna does she count as a good or bad daedra

[@MrToastyTank]

love your videos

[@mrvoldis6688]

I wonder how dark elf society views talos. Since he basically achieved there aim.

[@UntilxThexSunxDies]

Sounds like it was Hopi inspired! The one who showed the Hopi the harsh life of the dessert was a skeleton man king of the underground!

[@charmine953]

Which daedra would the Dunmer of House Redoran mostly follow if it even matters?

[@wanderingbufoon]

We all know the goodest of them all is. Ma'ik The Liar is your boy

[@Raynor646]

ScottFromFudgemuppet, huh... That's quite the name.

[@hitkid96]

Meridia and Azura are the only daedra that have some sympathy for mortals

[@hitkid96]

@Sam Guevenne you're right i forgot about him.

[@nomousecat]

Hircine does too. He mourns the prey but the predator has to eat too. It's brutal but that's just nature and the circle of life. He respects and admires when prey outwits the predator.

[@dashie1420]

Octavio Vazquez Bey Meridia seems like more of a “means to an end” she aligns with good but I’ve not seen too much of sympathy from her

[@Bitterman5868]

Boethiah has more sympathy, mostly because she wants mortals to Git Gud with hardwork and never us shortcuts and dubious choices.

[@pawesmaci8288]

I think it would be funny of later it comes to light that the daedra were just trolling the dunmer

[@legendarycrusader2773]

**A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON**

[@RavenwolfFoxtrack]

Azura, Meridria, and Nocturnal are the "good" daedra from my experience.

[@knightsotl796]

Azura,Malacath and Nocturnal for me...

[@domphilbrick]

That sounds like a very good experience lmao

[@Vonzura]

Mephala as well, she teaches and dismantles. Morag murders to dismantle, the artifact ebony blade is just a playtoy for those who fall for it.

[@t.t6294]

bruh. Nocturnal tried to re make the entirety of nirn into nothing but darkness in the Second Era

[@draugvorn]

Speaking of the Good Daedra, maybe you could consider a video on the Four Corners of the House of Troubles, FudgeMuppet? At least in Morrowind, the Four Corners are not purely detrimental forces, they serve their purpose of testing the Dunmer people. In the game Morrowind, the Temple quest line even includes a pilgrimage to each of the Four Corners' shrines. Especially Molag Bal has gotten quite the bad press in the recent past, also in your videos. This however seems to neglect the "good" he has done, for example apparently granting CHIM to Vivec, and curing the Nerevarine of vampirism.

[@LordMortanius]

"Kill my daughter for sleeping with someone beneath her station" doesn't strike me as being good.

[@kayrosis5523]

The "Good" Daedra: Wont fuck you over for shits and giggles.

[@Trombonebrudda]

This is basically history class but good

[@alienstar2088]

I have an interesting question that could help me out a lot if properly explained. Is there ever mention of a mortal creating life with a spell or practice? See, my friends and I are in the midst of an Elder Scrolls D&D Campaign where I play the role of an Argonian Necromancer, Saliish. Saliish is interesting compared to other Necromancers as he doesn't just study Necromancy. Recently he has begged the question of if it were possible to create an entirely new being with a magical practice or spell. He already knows that creating a mindless being is somewhat possible with the use of Necromancy and Flesh magic but he seeks to create a mortal, one who can be seen as just an average individual. The main reason he wishes to accomplish this is so that he can gain a fallowing and rise to a possible higher power. I was simply wondering if such a feat was ever explain in Elder Scrolls and if so, how.

[@Amadeus8484]

Azura, Meridia, Nocturnal and Sanguine would be the only Daedra that care about their followers and make the world a better place in some ways. Even then they are self absorbed and rather than appreciate mortals obedience they expect it.

[@sackettandres9457]

Ain’t scared of spiders but maphala spooks me

[@kihro]

As a dunmer I worship a few deadra boethia, molag bal, and Azura.

[@demikus]

The Psijic Endeavor or the Tri-Angled Truth, perhaps the Tribunal thought they had achieved it, they thought they had surpassed their gods. What does any new god try to achieve in most legends, they try to denounce or even remove from the common mind any aspects of the old gods. Even though the Tribunal were very powerful by mortal standards, it just shows that the true gods of the world still far out shine them if one god was able to plant the seeds for their downfall, through the actions of one blessed "mortal" (should the Nerevarine even be considered mortal? not sure). Just a thought.

[@phantasmaroseplancton6576]

The Nerevarine never was the cause of the tribunal's downfall rather than Dagoth Ur surviving the betrayal in the Red Mount. In TES III Azura was seizing an opportunity set for her a long time ago to reassert her own cult in a situation where protagonists deeply understood that the Tribunal was destined to end except maybe Almalexia. The reason why we succeed in TES III is because Azura and Vehk interests coincide for the first time. Vehk wanting to destroy the heart of Lorkhan to stop the propagation of the corprus and kill Dagoth Ur, the Sharmat and Azura wanting to destroy the heart of Lorkhan to be adored again by the Dunmer. But the other nerevarines before us didn't had that chance. Every other attempts of Azura were failures. That said, the Tribunal were not just powerful by mortal standards but even for the daedric princes. Almalexia's fight on the ruins of Mournhold, Baar Dau the ministry of truth, the four-score war or the coldharbour compact are examples among many of how power flows in the relationships between the daedric princes and the Tribunal. Beyond political concerns Vivec and Sotha Sil have probably achieved an understanding of their own world (from Nirn to the Void beyond Oblivion) the daedric princes are unable to achieve because of the fact that the power and wisdom achieved by struggling in Nirn are of a greater value than what is achievable in Aetherius or Oblivion. Vivec knowing about the future appearance of Talos the God centuries before Tiber Septim was born by (maybe) having access to a seemingly out of time "non-spatial space" is an excellent example of how psijic endeavor's path to power differ from the subaltern power of the et'ada (from the gods in aetherius to the eight divines and the daedric princes). Another example of the power achieved through Mundus is the fact that: if the et'ada are certainly immensely powerful in terms of knowledge and magical power, in the case of the Daedric Princes, more than the fact that they don't really outshine the Tribunal, they don't outshine the mortals either. And of all those not all powerful Daedric Princes, from Dwemer scientists exposing her limits to chimer generals surprising her, Azura is not Mephala. Just like the psijics I prefer to assume that the et'ada when they're not in Aetherius are just absurdly overpowered magic-using spirits. ^^

[@Shurii]

the only daedra i'd be happy to be friends with is sanguine. party all day lmao

[@thedarknight307]

Meridia is definitely up there Along with Azura and Nocturnal And you can make the argument some aren’t evil but acting out nature Peryite for example is the prince of natural order. What he does good or bad isn’t because of his alignment but because it’s nature and has to happen that way

[@alldayagain]

Wheres my boy, Hircine?

[@alldayagain]

Oh, its about Reclamations

[@magnetisemplayz3839]

Watch out im a vigilant of stendarr

[@AllinSBlack]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Prophet_of_gecko_jesus0001]

Funny I am currently Doing a modded Paladin playthrough. I feel like Merida is the only really good Daedra. But I don't know

[@ovenram]

if youre a paladin then meridia and maybe azura are probably the only daedra you should serve.

[@Prophet_of_gecko_jesus0001]

@@ovenram I get Merida but Azure ain't exactly "good" but she's not necessary evil either

[@Xolcm]

Meridia is far from good. She is the patron deity of the Ayleids - who many consider the most evil race on Tamriel - she is completely opposed to free will, and even her own champion says that you shouldn't trust her.

[@Prophet_of_gecko_jesus0001]

@@Xolcm holy gecko fucking Jesus you serious!? Fuck her and her Bitchy attitude

[@yiasemi]

@@Xolcm Darien? He's one of the better written parts of ESOs main quests. At first he seems to be a bad cliche but eventually becomes a memorable character and tragic figure.

[@edwardmeyers4466]

What are the other daedra classified as?

[@JohannesVanDerStuyvebode]

My mommy Azura ❤

[@googlebarbaralernerspectre2581]

Meridia is my favourite.

[@JoshBirk]

nocturnal is the greatest good to feast the eyes

[@wiibrockster]

Azura is the only Daedric Prince that legimately cares about her worshippers. Enough said.

[@hentaihaven2843]

Don’t forget Meridia hircine and malacath.

[@Leto85]

So in short, these Daedra are considered good because the methods they use are for the greater good? I like this video, like I do so many more of your work, but I still have trouble seeing these Daedra as good. Does it really come down to differences in moral compasses?

[@Ap1hw]

What about meridia? Where does she fit in this?

[@MrGuyJacks]

Trickery huh? Hehe, the Dunmer are reminding me of a certain tribe👃

[@acephas3]

As a Redguard, I’d break bread with Azura, Meridia, and Nocturnal. I’d match them with Dibella and Mara. I’m good with that pantheon.

[@ScarletRedCrimson]

Id love to hear you guys opinion on the Vigilant mod! It is so chok filled with lore and characterizations of Aedra and Daedra alike. It would be very interesting to hear your opinions ^.^

[@roadhouse6999]

The Vigilant mod kinda does what it wants lore-wise, imo. There's lots of in-house lore, some of which doesn't quite fit with the rest of TES.

[@ScarletRedCrimson]

@@roadhouse6999 Which is why a lore experts opinion would be interesting.