Who are the Sámi? American reacts to Nordic Indigenous People

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@michael.adamyk
@michael.adamyk 3 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for watching! I'm always eager to learn more, so feel free to share your thoughtsin the comments. Here are some specific questions I’m curious about: 1. Is reindeer herding still very widespread in northern Scandinavia? 2. Are the Sámi people integrated fully with the main population, or do they keep distinct communities? 3. Do we know much about Sámi history? 4. Where can I go to see historical or cultural photos of the Sámi? 5. How would you rate the Finnish, Swedish, and Norwegian translations of the description and subtitles? Your thoughts mean a lot to me, and I appreciate everyone who takes the time to share! Plus, I love connecting with all of you from halfway across the world! If you enjoyed this video, be sure to check out my previous reaction on the Animated History of Finland! kzbin.info/www/bejne/jqK3mGqGg7qMosk
@ahkkariq7406
@ahkkariq7406 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for an interesting reaction video. I am Norwegian Sami, but grew up without knowing that I came from a Sami family. All my grandparents had Sami as their first language, but the shame of being Sami was so great that the generations before mine chose to bring us up as Norwegians. Nevertheless, I know today that I grew up in a redefined Sami culture. I had to be close to 40 years old before I realized that I was actually Sami, and not Norwegian. I reacted with sadness and anger at having been robbed of a Sami identity, language and culture. We never really became Norwegian - we were a people without a past. Eventually, the joy of having found a cultural treasure replaced the earlier anger, and I started reading up on Sami history as well as learning Sámi handicrafts. I also tried learning the language, but since I had moved out of the core Sámi area it was to hard to succeed. Many books have been published on Sami history, and extensive research has been carried out in recent decades, both archaeologically, linguistically and genetically. We now know much more about the origins of the Sami than before. Many people believe that the Sami migrated in from the east, and that is partly true, but not the whole story. The research shows continuity from the oldest finds (10,000 years old) in the Sami area right up to today's Sami culture. The Sami are descendants of those who migrated in when the ice retreated (some from south, and some from north/east), and so are the Norwegians. The two groups that migrated in merged into one people, but later split into Sami and Norwegians. All research categories confirm that the people of today's Norway (at that time northern Sweden was under water) were once one people, but that a division arose later. The distinction came with the immigration of other groups, both in the south and in the north. Many Norwegians believe that those who settled the country first were Norwegians, but that is not true. The Norwegian language came with immigrants, but remnants of the old language are found in Norwegian, but to a much greater extent in Sami, which consists of a large proportion of unknown origin. Linguists believe that these are remnants of languages ​​spoken in the Paleo-European area. In the north for approx. 3000 years a group of men who had their origins in the far east arrived. These men settled together with the people in the north, and what we know today as Sami ethnicity arose. There is no indication that they replaced Sami men and took over the women. The male Y chromosome from both groups is found among the Sámi. The distinction between Norwegians and Sámi is probably partly a consequence of the fact that people began to grow grain in the south. In the new religion that came to the country in the south, alcoholic beverages based on grain were an important part of the religious rituals. In the north it was impossible to grow grain, so the new religion did not gain a foothold there. In the south, the people became farmers and fishermen, while the Sami in the north continued to be gatherers, fishermen and trappers. Reindeer herding is a newer industry, but even if there are not many Sami who make a living from the industry, it is very important for Sami culture. All Sámi were nomads in the past, including those who lived on the coast. Some moved from the mountains and valleys down to the fjords in the summer, others moved from the fjords out to the islands in the summer. They followed the herds of animals, to fish in the rivers and to fish and catch whales and seals in the sea. The Sami have been exposed to many abuses from outside, and combined with harsh climatic conditions, it cannot have been easy to belong to this group. It is therefore understandable that many chose to switch to identifying themselves as Norwegian, Swedish, Finnish or Russian. Nevertheless, Sami language and culture survived, and today there is a great will to take Sami identity into the future, whether you live in the core Sami areas or elsewhere in the Nordic region. If you are interested, I recommend the movie "The Kautokeino Rebellion", which is about a real event from Northern Norway in the mid-1800s.
@michael.adamyk
@michael.adamyk 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for all that information! Sounds like you've really done your research. I'm glad you've had your own personal history of discovering your past and embracing your heritage. Another video I watched made it sound like we don't know much at all about Sámi history, but there's more details than I expected. I've added that movie to my IMBD "To Watch" list!
@Pataassa
@Pataassa 3 ай бұрын
I'm Finn and I don't know much of their history or culture. But all Sami people that I have met, can speak Finnish as well and they are part of our land and culture. I personally don't see a big difference in them compared to other Finns. All I know is that they also have their own language that they speak to each other that I don't understand much. In addition, they also have their own rituals and culture apart from the rest of the country. And that they mostly live in Finnish Lapland and nature is important to them. They take care of reindeer a lot there. Otherwise, they live as part of society, like other Finns.
@Pataassa
@Pataassa 3 ай бұрын
Did you know that there is also people group called Findians? They live in USA and they are 50% Finn's and 50% indians. There is videos on KZbin by that. I see a lot of similarities between the Sami and the Indians in terms of culture. And it is said that there is some similarity among other Finns as well, because nature plays an important role in life for us too.
@michael.adamyk
@michael.adamyk 3 ай бұрын
That's really neat to learn! I'll have to dig more into that. As he was describing the reindeer herding and spiritual connection with nature that the Sámi have, I was definitely reminded of American Indians.
@Sondre_Husby
@Sondre_Husby 3 ай бұрын
bures, mun lean dávvisápmalaš ja mun oron norga eret (hello, I am northern sámi and I am from norway) I can answer a few of the questions: reindeer herding depends alot on where in northen europe you are, like where I am from in northern norway (the county of finnmark) nearly everybody knows somebody who dose reindeerherding and its common to see reindeer when driving. but if you just go down to for eksample trøndelag its not common at all, yes you can see a few but not many. reindeer is a big part of sámi culture but there are a some gruopes of sámi like for eksample the one im from which is mearrasápmi(sea sámi) who did fishing and farming. a few other gruopes of people that live up in sápmi are the kven and the germanic people. most sámi (in norway) go to normal schools but have a few other classes than people who are not sámi, we can also choose if we want to have sámi classes or not but many want to have it its not a mistory about the sámi history but a lot of it was lost during the assimilation politics for more pictures just search for sámi people on google and you will get much more, but for history and information its quite hard to find tbh. if you got more questions just ask:) and if you want you can add me on instagram @HUSBYSONDRE whit the same profile picture as the one on YT
@michael.adamyk
@michael.adamyk 3 ай бұрын
Nice to "meet" you, and thanks for sharing! I'll have to check out some of those other Sápmi groups too. Wow, it looks like Finnmark is about as far north as you can get!! Have you always lived there? Were the mearrasápmi also fairly nomadic, or did they stay in places for a longer period of time? That's neat that the Sámi are given an option to help continue their unique culture. I'll definitely check out more photos! I remember doing a report on Lappland in grade school, and haven't forgotten the reindeer and colorful dress of the people! I don't have Instagram, but feel free to get in touch here or through the email address listed on my channel! Thanks so much for watching and sharing your answers to my questions! Cheers from the USA!
@Sondre_Husby
@Sondre_Husby 3 ай бұрын
​@@michael.adamykim going to school in trøndelag but my home will always be up in finnmark, lived there til I was 15,5 years old when I moved south to go to vidregående(highschool)to studie to become a fishing guide (only one highschool in norway has this studie) but I will move back home after im done down here. no the mearrasápmi where mostly farmers, fishermen and hunters and lived in settlements down by the coast and on the islands. we never where and are not nomadic or semi nomadic. for eksapmle my familie has always lived on sállan (sørøya in norwegian) and I my plan is to keep living there after im done studying:) can send picture of the gákti from my area, its realy rare only 40 people have it
@ahkkariq7406
@ahkkariq7406 2 ай бұрын
If you are interested, I recommend the book "Samenes historie fram til 1750" by Bjørnar Olsen and Lars Ivar Hansen. There is also a book in the series about the period from 1751 - 2010.
@TullaRask
@TullaRask 3 ай бұрын
I'm Norwegian, but not Sami. What we have always been told is that the Sami people inhabited Norway from North while the usual European or Norwegian come from South some thousands of years ago. It's a peninsula, so that's easily done. Norway for a long time didn't extend as far north as it does now, but then some King came along and wanted that territory as well.
@ahkkariq7406
@ahkkariq7406 2 ай бұрын
According to research the two groups that migrated in most likely merged into one people, but later split into Sami and Norwegians. This is confirmed by archaeological, linguistic and genetic findings.
@kilipaki87oritahiti
@kilipaki87oritahiti 29 күн бұрын
The Proto Finns, ancestors of the indigenous Sámi, Finns and Estonians migrated from Siberia Asia to Northern Norway during the Last Ice Age. There they intermixed with the incoming Western Hunter Gatherers, 1st Europeans, who where black with blue eyes who had migrated into Europe from the Middle East, where all Europeans can trace their DNA on their paternal side, who came up along the western coast of Norway. The Sámi are the descendants. The Sámi are the only ones who holds status as indigenous people because they as a culture, people and language existed long before any modern Norwegian/Swedish/Finnish/Russian cultural identity, country/borders, people, language or society. And even though the Finns and Estonians are Finno Ugric like the Sámi, they are a result of Southern Sámi tribes intermixing with later incoming populations/immigrant groups: Anatolian farmers, Yamnaya, and Germanic farmers, later Swedes and Baltic people. The Sámi is also distant related to all 1st nation/indigenous Americans. All this has been proven by DNA, linguistic and archaeological evidence.
@kilipaki87oritahiti
@kilipaki87oritahiti 29 күн бұрын
@@ahkkariq7406 The Proto Finns, ancestors of the indigenous Sámi, Finns and Estonians migrated from Siberia Asia to Northern Norway during the Last Ice Age. There they intermixed with the incoming Western Hunter Gatherers, 1st Europeans, who where black with blue eyes who had migrated into Europe from the Middle East, where all Europeans can trace their DNA on their paternal side, who came up along the western coast of Norway. The Sámi are the descendants. The Sámi are the only ones who holds status as indigenous people because they as a culture, people and language existed long before any modern Norwegian/Swedish/Finnish/Russian cultural identity, country/borders, people, language or society. And even though the Finns and Estonians are Finno Ugric like the Sámi, they are a result of Southern Sámi tribes intermixing with later incoming populations/immigrant groups: Anatolian farmers, Yamnaya, and Germanic farmers, later Swedes and Baltic people. The Sámi is also distant related to all 1st nation/indigenous Americans. All this has been proven by DNA, linguistic and archaeological evidence.
@kilipaki87oritahiti
@kilipaki87oritahiti 29 күн бұрын
@@ahkkariq7406Norwegians love to claim common ancestry as then they can claim land rights. Typical colonizer behavior. Sápmi was and still is colonized after all.
@kilipaki87oritahiti
@kilipaki87oritahiti 29 күн бұрын
Also the Sámi lived as far south Alas Setesdalen and Hedmarken. Not until modern times did the Germanic people move inland from their coastal villages.
@tanantii
@tanantii 2 ай бұрын
Swede here that grew up in the northern part of the country. I would say that there’s a mix of people living up there, both Sami and non-Sami. Also, many of us have Sami heritage but have no connection to the culture sadly. Just a few generations back it was thought to be a “bad” thing to be Sami, and the state did pretty horrible things to them (search for racial biology and Sami). My great grandmother was Sami, but she married a Swede very young, broke contact with her Sami relatives and never taught us younger generations about our heritage
@michael.adamyk
@michael.adamyk 2 ай бұрын
Ah, that's too bad. I'm glad that's finally changing...
@david82633
@david82633 2 ай бұрын
We have pretty clear ideas of which dialects are considered languages today. The "official" list of current languages (in no particular order) is North Sámi, South Sámi, Lule Sámi, Pite Sámi, Ume Sámi, Skolt Sámi, Inare Sámi, Ter Sámi (likely extinct), Akkala Sámi (likely extinct), Kildin Sámi, and some extinct finnish languages that are poorly studied, often split into Kemi Sámi and Kainuu Sámi. Only North Sámi has more than 2000 users
@michael.adamyk
@michael.adamyk 2 ай бұрын
Wow! That's amazing that they keep those languages alive!
@david82633
@david82633 Ай бұрын
@@michael.adamyk Many have less than 100 active users, but the largest languages are doing okay. North-Sámi is estimated to have around 30 000 users, the rest are below 2000, most below 1000
@agnetajohansson9269
@agnetajohansson9269 3 ай бұрын
The Sami in Sweden have a lot of problem political about where the rein herds can live and the destroid forests that make the food for the herds dissipear, because the reins go free in the landscape, but once a year they move the herds to different arias. One very nice and different thing with Sami is the way they "sing" it calls joik and it's just voice without words, you must listen to "Jon Henrik" he is Sami and have a rein herd in Sweden, but he was adopted from Columbia when he was just 3 months old, he was bollied so so much in the school up to he was about 16 years old. He has become famious because of his "Joik" songs. I am sorry about my bad english but i hope you can understand. The Sami has a very special "Hantverk" (swedish word). I think you can find it on internet. Thank you so much to show this about the Sami. I am from Stockholm and are not a Sami. ❤
@michael.adamyk
@michael.adamyk 3 ай бұрын
@agnetajohansson9269, thank you so much for watching and commenting! Jon Henrik Fjällgren is his name, yes? I will definitely look him up, I especially love listening to new music! I will look for Sámi crafts and handmade items, that sounds delightful! Your English is very good, I understood everything! Besides, I cannot speak any language other than English, so I'm always impressed with anyone who learns multiple! Thanks again for watching and sharing; have a fantastic day!
@MagdalenaBozyk
@MagdalenaBozyk 2 ай бұрын
I recently learned that the Sami cannot choose themselves how many reindeer they can herd. At least in Sweden. It is decided (not sure by whom) that the area that they live in can support a certain amount. Then these amounts are divided between the different villages, and then each village divides between families and so on. This sounds both complicated and prone to favoritism and conflicts between families in a village. Every change to nature up north is problematic, because it affects how many reindeer the place can sustain. In theory the Sami have the right to negotiate if they want a mine, or a new electrical station plopped in the middle of their grazing ground. But in practice this is far from true and a lot of conflicts ensure.
@sampohonkala4195
@sampohonkala4195 2 ай бұрын
The dispute that still exist in Finland (still part of Sweden in the 1700's) is the right to the land. Back in the 1750's a land reform started in Finland dividing villages and their commonly owned land to individual farms. While doing this, land that was so far from any farm that no village could claim ownership to it was declared land of the Swedish crown. In southern Finland only a few large forested areas became land that is now owned by the state of Finland. But in Lapland with reindeer herders rather than farmers and farms, most of the land went to the state. So in theory Lapland was treated exactly as the rest of Finland, but the result was completely different. Therefore most of the land in Southern Finland is private property, in Lapland state property.
@Songfugel
@Songfugel 2 ай бұрын
In Finland it is more understandable, since Sámi people and Finnish people arrived to current Finland at about the same time (much earlier than other Europeans), both following (from the east) the receding Glacial Ice. Sámi people were just mode adaptated to living at more arctic conditions, so they were able to follow it closer, and to settle to more arctic parts of Finland (Northen Lapland) even without modern technology (reindeer fur is one of the World's best insulating materials, with incredible structure you'd expect from modern manufactured micro/nano materials) While the more numerous Finns stayed in the Southern parts, with less Arctic living conditions, and later had much more (still quite little) interactions with the Europeans and Slavic people that arrived much later from the South and South-West with a different mass-migration
@znail4675
@znail4675 2 ай бұрын
@@Songfugel Err, Sami arrived pretty late to the scene from the east following the areas that have been cleared from the ice for a while. There were people living there around 8000 years before they showed up. Some of those may have been integrated into the Sami though. The people coming into the nordic area from the south came long before that, even as long as 50'000 years before, possibly being neanderthals.
@Fortuna88828
@Fortuna88828 2 ай бұрын
The Finns have lived here for ten thousand years as well.
@david82633
@david82633 2 ай бұрын
They weren't really finnish, or sámi or germanic at that time, since those languages arrived between 2000-3000 years ago
@anneliseppanen9105
@anneliseppanen9105 Ай бұрын
@@david82633 Eastern Hunter-Gatherers.
@lill-mariblesskarlsen3910
@lill-mariblesskarlsen3910 3 ай бұрын
Here is at ted-talk form Mari Boine,hwho is at Norwegian sami artist. She talks about her upbringing as a Sami, and how they are now working to take back their old traditions. kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3W8i4V9jLKUma8
@michael.adamyk
@michael.adamyk 3 ай бұрын
Great, thanks for that! I may not be able to react to it based on copyright restrictions, but I'll definitely check it out either way! I love music as well, so I'm looking forward to it.
@Veaiki
@Veaiki 3 ай бұрын
My grandmother used to tell us kids that we shouldn't whistle, because then we would call on Stallo (a sami kind of troll or demon). We also shouldn't wave at the northern lights, becaous we might get captured by the "gufihtar". She was part of a brqanch of christianity called Laestadianism, which is a pietistic group with deep roost in the sami population. There is also the belief that there are some sami people that can cast "gand", a sort of curse, on people they disagree with, which may fore the person whichupon the gand is cast to suffer some sort of consequence until the wrongdoing is righted (like if he stole something, he'd have to return the stolen goods). There is also some people among the population who is said to have the ability to "stop blood", to do healing while not being in the vicinity of the one who is in need of healing. Often some relative would call the person who can stop blood todo something, and then that person would "read" over the person needing healing by invoking the name of Christ.
@michael.adamyk
@michael.adamyk 3 ай бұрын
I haven't heard of Laestadianism before, but I would guess it influenced my grandparents somewhat. Thanks for sharing those specific memories from your grandmother!
@phoenixknight8837
@phoenixknight8837 3 ай бұрын
I was also told not to whistle for similar reasons but from Lebanese culture. On a DNA test I was possibly linked to Sami haplogroup on the maternal side.
@kunilsen2519
@kunilsen2519 2 ай бұрын
Sami are just as indigenous to the north as the Nordic people living here, but they are a protected people
@Finkele1
@Finkele1 29 күн бұрын
Hi, I commented in group of native american's. And somebody asked neolite finnish. I'll check. Well 1st there was ice. There's not much to say who were 1st in this area....hunter gatherers. They left traces for archaeologist. Then came kampakeraaminen society and after that about same time sami and what we could say finns. 2000 BCE. So i think those tribes with hunter gathering are the original. Ofc it's hard to say bc there's only little traces of them. If Sami ppl claim there were here 1st...nope.
@viggoholmsen7203
@viggoholmsen7203 2 ай бұрын
FYI Bismarck, North Dakota is located at 46°48′30″N, while the region we're talking about here stretches from Røros in the south (62°34′27″N) to Honningsvåg in the north 70°58′33″N (both in Norway). The northernmost town in the US is Utqiagvik, Alaska (71°17′26″N, while in Norway it is Ny-Ålesund (78°55′00″N) and Longyearbyen (78°13′00″N), both located in the Svalbard archipelago (located between mainland Norway and the North Pole). The region of Sápmi (Lapland) is more like Alaska than North Dakota. By comparison, Alaska stretches from Ketchikan in the south (55°21′00″N) to aforementioned Utqiagvik in the north (71°17′26″N)
@michael.adamyk
@michael.adamyk 2 ай бұрын
@viggoholmsen7203 it's easy to forget how far north the Nordic countries are! I was doing some research on that a few weeks ago, and found that although they are further north, central Scandinavia has a climate roughly comparable to North Dakota, even though it's much further north. The average temperatures are similar, but ND has more extreme highs and lows (I don't remember which part of Scandinavia I was comparing it to). There's no nearby water to help slow down temperature changes. Cold air from Canada means it can get brutal in the winter, and hot air easily comes up from the south over the Great Plains in the summer. My dad's family lives in North Dakota and I always love summer there, with more daylight. I'm sure the night/day difference is very extreme in Norway!
@viggoholmsen7203
@viggoholmsen7203 2 ай бұрын
@@michael.adamyk In the far north you get both Polar Night in the winter (the sun doesn't rise above the horizon, dusk-like ambiance for a couple of hours otherwise pitch black, but great for viewing Aurora Borealis) and Polar Day in the summer (the sun never sets, but stays above the horizon 24/7). If you ever get to Svalbard, it's more extreme for many months each year. In regards to the climate, the coastal areas benefit from the Gulf Stream leading to a milder climate considering the latitude. But once you get inland, the temperatures are just like inland in Northern Canada and Alaska (quite extreme), down to -50 F (-45 C) or even colder. This is true even much further south. Sometimes it can get quite hot in the summer +85 F (+30 C), but it is rather rare. I often get a kick out of comparing the temperatures of Kautokeino and Karasjok in inland Finnmark (the entire area is in a belt of arctic tundra) to Dawson, Canada (comparable in winter, but Dawson tend to be warmer than either during the summer). Most cities, however, are located on the coast and have a more temperate climate. You should also remember that at least Norway is very mountainous, with more than 2500 glaciers in mainland Norway.
@stiglarsson8405
@stiglarsson8405 2 ай бұрын
Sapmi was kind of that region that was inhabited by different Sami groups, befor swedes, norweigans and finns.. moved north! With that sayd, there was no Sapmi nation. In anyway.. at first they was cald "Skridfinnar" = skiing finns, later laps.. and north of both sweden and finland is to this day calld Lappland, (finland was part of sweden then).. but in Norway, northen parts is still cald "finnmark"! But in anyway today Sami cultur is mostly about reindeer hearding, and sami villages that still lives by reindeer hearding! Moste Samis wasnt reindeer hearders.. or only parttime hearders, moste of them when Sweden, Norway and Finns expanded north was "forest samis" that lived of reindeers, hunting, fishing and in Finmark in Norway a lot of fishing! It was the poorest samis that lived in our mountains as pastoralists moving there heards around (and still does) thats now is the last upholder of Sami cultur and language! Becuse the others get swiftly integrated and adapted in to the majority cultur, economy, language, religion and politics! Soo.. there is more Samis living in Stockholm, Helsinki and Oslo.. or other citys/towns, then lives in Sami villages !
@lordskufberry7824
@lordskufberry7824 2 ай бұрын
Well that isn't exactly true, many forest sami today uphold sami culture and language
@stiglarsson8405
@stiglarsson8405 2 ай бұрын
@@lordskufberry7824 Yes, its even more complicated.. but that would be to much to explaine.. to someone living in Kansas/USA!
@kilipaki87oritahiti
@kilipaki87oritahiti 29 күн бұрын
The Proto Finns, ancestors of the indigenous Sámi, Finns and Estonians migrated from Siberia Asia to Northern Norway during the Last Ice Age. There they intermixed with the incoming Western Hunter Gatherers, 1st Europeans, who where black with blue eyes who had migrated into Europe from the Middle East, where all Europeans can trace their DNA on their paternal side, who came up along the western coast of Norway. The Sámi are the descendants. The Sámi are the only ones who holds status as indigenous people because they as a culture, people and language existed long before any modern Norwegian/Swedish/Finnish/Russian cultural identity, country/borders, people, language or society. And even though the Finns and Estonians are Finno Ugric like the Sámi, they are a result of Southern Sámi tribes intermixing with later incoming populations/immigrant groups: Anatolian farmers, Yamnaya, and Germanic farmers, aka Norse, later Swedes and Baltic people. The Sámi is also distant related to all 1st nation/indigenous Americans. All this has been proven by DNA, linguistic and archaeological evidence.
@LauriKempas-hl4kq
@LauriKempas-hl4kq 2 ай бұрын
Jos olet kovasti kiinnostunut saame asiasta, niin parhaiten pääset tiedon lähteille saamelaismuseossa mikä on Inarissa. KZbinlla on jotain juttuja tästä museosta
@michael.adamyk
@michael.adamyk 2 ай бұрын
I will check that out, thanks!
@LauriKempas-hl4kq
@LauriKempas-hl4kq 2 ай бұрын
Ok.
@LauriKempas-hl4kq
@LauriKempas-hl4kq 2 ай бұрын
Hi oletko ehtinyt tutustua saamelaisten musiikkikultuuriin sen nimi on Joiku. KZbinsta löytyy .
@mikaelhiunu4135
@mikaelhiunu4135 Ай бұрын
I'm a Finn but I watched this video without the subtitles so I can't help with them. But the Finnish title of the video is very good except it has too much plural forms when they should be singular. For example, there is only one American reacting so it should be amerikkalainen (American) not amerikkalaiset (Americans).
@michael.adamyk
@michael.adamyk Ай бұрын
I got it fixed, thanks!
@LauriKempas-hl4kq
@LauriKempas-hl4kq 2 күн бұрын
Nyt vasta viralliset tahot ovat heräämässä saamelaisten kaltoinkohteluun, kun on suoritettu tutkimus asiasta ja tutkijat ovat päätyneet siihen, että valtion tulee pyytää anteeksi saamelaisten kaltoinkohteluun.
@MagdalenaBozyk
@MagdalenaBozyk 2 ай бұрын
The narrator makes a few skips and misinterpretations in the history. Sami people were known during and before the Viking age (and the Wendel age). The relationship with them was more or less cordial and mostly based on exchanging goods. "Reindeer herding" was not part of their culture, until the rulers of the Scandinavian countries decided that parts of Sapmi are parts of their own countries and wanted to tax the people living there (obviously the Sami who were more or less hunter gatherers at that time). This was some time around the 15th- 16th century or maybe just earlier. Herding the now semi-wild/semi-tame animals became a way of providing the required amount of goods for the tax-collectors. Not all Sami were reindeer herders. Some that lived farther south (in places people don't think of normal for the Sami - like the Southern and Forest Sami). I would say that they must have lost everything - both their lands, their culture and even identity from the governments. How the people themselves were treated varied greatly from country to country, epoch to epoch, and who and what epoch they had that interacted with them. For example, the Christian Church leadership more or less forcefully (depending on the time) turned them into Christians. Sometimes that included punishments and and vandalism (destroying the Sami cultural/spiritual artifacts). There were periods in time, when the governments wanted to assimilate the Sami into the majority ethnic group (forcing the children to stop speak their languages, while in schools, and since the parents were not sedentary - the children lived for long periods of time away from their parents). But there were also periods of the fully opposite behavior - the Sami were considered a curious "others" that were less worth than the majority population and thus both considered unable to assimilate, but also there was a view that it was inappropriate to try to assimilate them. It was basically decided that they couldn't be anything other than what they were and do anything else than what they did (aka - live as nomads and herd reindeer). When there was a big drive in Europe to move to America and settle it, at least in Sweden they decided to have a "Wild North" - people who wanted land of their own moved northwards and claimed lands from the Sami. Thus Lapland was colonized and a lot of Sami people were forced to the north - they used to live more to the south, too. What is seldom mentioned that a lot of new villages, farms and towns in the north were also started by the Sami (I'm thinking for example of history of places around Dorotea in Sweden). However, here comes the politics in of who can be seen as Sami and who doesn't. While in the US, you can consider yourself to be indegenous person, just because you have some percentage of them in you, this is not necessarily so in Europe. For example, in Sweden, if you are fully assimilated - you are no longer Sami and have no longer the rights. You are only considered Sami with the Sami rights, if you own reindeer. So to be Sami, you have to be a "reindeer herding" Sami. Which also is problematic, because not all Sami people used to be reindeer-herders (as I mentioned earlier). Today a lot of Sami groups are ethnically undistinguishable from the majority of Scandinavia (blonde, and blue-eyed). If they don't keep track of their family-origins - nobody would know the difference. And if they don't have reindeer, they don't even count in the statistics. So, the last point is also that there are probably far more Sami people than the narrator said - they are just not counted as such due to this weird policy of reindeer herding. But there are probably no numbers on how big the number is.
@michael.adamyk
@michael.adamyk 2 ай бұрын
That's great history information, thanks for sharing. It definitely shows the complexities of why you can't just distinguish between people who are clearly Sami and those who aren't.
@ahkkariq7406
@ahkkariq7406 2 ай бұрын
Seen from a Norwegian perspective, it can be mentioned that many children were sent to boarding school even if the parents were permanent residents. My father lived in a boarding school from the age of seven. At school and boarding school, they were not allowed to speak Sami, which was problematic since most of the children could not speak Norwegian when they started school. It was a contributing factor to many parents stopping speaking Sami and instead speaking Norwegian to their children, so that they would escape the traumatic experience. I grew up in the largest village in the municipality, so we had a school. But it was a boarding school, where children from the outskirts of the municipality lived during the weekdays. At that time, the children were allowed to speak Sami at the boarding school, and some of the staff knew the language. At that time, all teaching was in Norwegian. Now Sami children can get Sámi classes to learn the language. It can also be mentioned that Sámi in Norway do not need to be associated with reindeer herding to have rights as Sámi, for example the right to education in Sámi. Presumably, other industries than reindeer husbandry were much more common in Norway than in Sweden.
@viggoholmsen7203
@viggoholmsen7203 2 ай бұрын
You can also add in the Coastal Sámi as a sub-group, who were mostly fishermen, although most Sámi, especially in the north, were migrant. The map is slightly wrong as the territory inhabited by the Southern Sámi stretch to south of Røros (much further south than on the map shown). The first National Sámi Congress was held in Trondheim in 1917. Trondheim is just north of Røros and is also south of the territory indicated by the map.
@MagdalenaBozyk
@MagdalenaBozyk 2 ай бұрын
I'm curious about weird policies of KZbin on what messages get deleted. I made a post here about 2 Sami-centric movies that I recommend, and that post is gone. What was so offensive about it? One movie won a lot of prise Awards and the other is based on a book written by a Sami-author.
@viggoholmsen7203
@viggoholmsen7203 2 ай бұрын
@@MagdalenaBozyk Specific topics, names, vocabulary and any outside links are all grounds for deletion. Additionally a specific user might be temporarily targeted for deletion if they are reported by others.
@GuinevereKnight
@GuinevereKnight 3 ай бұрын
Hi there! Can't help you with info on the Sami people, don't know too much about them. What I can add is that Finland is not a part of Scandinavia, so Nordic would be more correct. (Scandinavia is Norway, Sweden and Denmark.) The title is 95% correct, but it should be Amerikan not Amerkanska (that would be if the person is female). This is for the Swedish text. Subtitles I had turned off, but they seemed good. I prefer it when the titles are in English when the spoken language is English, maybe others feel differently. Since everyone here speaks English it seems like extra "work" that you don't have to put in. 😊
@michael.adamyk
@michael.adamyk 3 ай бұрын
Good to know, thanks! I've updated the title and description to be more accurate. Thanks for watching!
@GuinevereKnight
@GuinevereKnight 3 ай бұрын
Happy if I could help in some small way. Looks good! Thanks for your channel and videos, look forward to seeing more! Greetings from Sweden! 🇸🇪 🙋🏼‍♀️
@sylvierobbinsrobbins7267
@sylvierobbinsrobbins7267 2 ай бұрын
Lapponia should be an Independent country...” Sampi
@LauriKempas-hl4kq
@LauriKempas-hl4kq Ай бұрын
On vielä yksi tragikoominen aika lappalaisten historiassa kun saksalaiset kävivät poroja metsästämässä Lapissa.Poronsarvet auton katolla ja lihat auton takakontissa. Jälkeenpäin naurattaa mutta on siinä ollut lappalaisilla kestämistä.
@michael.adamyk
@michael.adamyk Ай бұрын
That's sad to hear.
@kilipaki87oritahiti
@kilipaki87oritahiti 2 ай бұрын
The only reason the Sámi is the indigenous people today, is because they existed as a culture, language and people long before any modern Norwegian country, culture, people, language or state existed. Their ancestors the Proto Finns migrated from Siberia Asia during the Last Ice Age, bringing with them blonde hair, lighter eyes and paler skin tone… in Northern Norway they intermixed with the 1st Europeans, the Western Hunter Gatherers who had already migrated into Europe from the Middle East, black with blue eyes. Their modern descendants are the Sámi, Finns and Estonians. The reason why the Sámi are the only indigenous people is because the other two exist as they where Southern Sámi who intermixed with later incoming immigrants from Southern and Eastern Europe, the Anatolian farmers from ancient Turkey who brought agriculture and the domestication of crops and farm animals, later the Yamnaya from the Ukrainian steppe who replaced 90% of the population of Europe at the time, Germanic farmers aka vikings/norse and in modern times Swedes, and Slavs. The Sámi did not. The Sámi is also distant related to all 1st nation/indigenous Americans as they all migrated from the same area in Siberia. All of this has already been proven by genetic/DNA, linguistic, and archaeological evidence… I my self is indigenous tho neither to Norway, ir America, but we share similar archaic ancestry as the 1st female that we all can trace our ancestors back to was from my neck of the woods.
@Mornomgir
@Mornomgir 2 ай бұрын
What now? The sami arrived in the northern most parts of europes several thousands of years after the gaethes, suiones and so on moved into sweden, southern findland and the like. The sami that lives in the north here dont exist until 8000 years ago. All of us that live here are as indiginous as they are. They are protected as an indiginous group so the world wouldnt just churn over them and to protect their cultural heritage.
@audunholme7273
@audunholme7273 2 ай бұрын
Most of the Sami people in Norway live in Oslo
@david82633
@david82633 2 ай бұрын
Tromsø have more people on the voter rolls
@stiglarsson8405
@stiglarsson8405 Ай бұрын
Uups.. this "my answer" did jump up in my stream.. so WTF, im still a swede by birth.. in anyway I do know about Samis.. and there is bad storys of swedish history about.. not soo "arian people", the same goes for "finns" when finland was part of sweden! In anyway.. my history lessons.. there was nobody living up there, when sweden/Norway expanded north.. or they was part of Novgorod (Thats become Russia later)! Its the same thing in USA.. with "first nation populations", some get crushed other get US "reservates"! In Sweden.. they get aproval as "lappskatteland".. nice at first, difficult in later years! To prove that one own the land.. becuse pastoralist reindeer hearder moved a lot.. even to other countrys! Soo our Sami population do have gotten there own "parliment", (to sort out there social/cultural/econic/everything in ther comunity) its this its only work in there national border! Its this that moste Samis is not reindeer hearders anymore.. its a challange for the Sami comunity.. soo for those living in Jokkmokk/Stockholm/Helsinki/Oslo.. its about language/cultur/special handmade things/typical Sami for artisan craftsmen! But the reindeer hearders make the much fuss in our news.. becuse our state/private companyes want to use there land.. for hydropower/windfarms/mines/lumbering/tourism/you get it?
@michael.adamyk
@michael.adamyk Ай бұрын
Ah, I see what you're saying. Trying to lump them all under "reindeer herders" probably makes it easier to stereotype people too?
@stiglarsson8405
@stiglarsson8405 Ай бұрын
@@michael.adamyk Well yes and no.. its even more complicated to explaine to a USA citicicen! Becuse Sweden, Norway, Finnland is unitary countrys.. its the same rules for the whole population! To that we are rich countrys.. high tax countrys, high wellfare countrys, high payback to population countrys.. high "organised" countrys, to get paybacks one suposed to be organised/unionised! Soo.. those Sami parliment get funded by our goverments.. and they altso get funds for Sami special things.. like culture and language.. on top of our goverments paybacks to the whole of our population that ofcourse includes Sami people altso! Soo Samis is totaly integrated in our countrys, speak the national language, and English.. its rather this, hey we are samis.. I want my children to be able to speak Sami.. and as a parent.. Im going to improve my Sami languege my self to be a proud Sami! However.. the majority of samis is intermingled/intermariged with swedes/norweigans/finns.. so they is alredy kinda extinct as a "etnic group"! The rest is history, language, traditions, and culture.. and ofcourse those that still is in to reindeer hearding!
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