WHO BUYS THIS? 2023 Ford Mustang Ecoboost HIGH PERFORMANCE Pack Convertible Review

2023 Ford Mustang Ecoboost review by The Straight Pipes. The Ford Mustang Ecoboost 2.3L High Performance Convertible is putting down 330 horsepower and 350 lb-ft of torque from a 2.3L Ecoboost 4 cylinder. At $55,925 CAD, would you take it over the Mustang GT Coupe and $10,000 in your pocket, Nissan Z, Subaru BRZ, Toyota GR86, Mazda Miata, Chevy Camaro, Honda Civic Type R?
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[@TheStraightPipes]

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[@DeiHarper9361]

0-60?

[@kreigerbailey3550]

Portland, JAMAICA in the Building!!!

[@davidrunyon]

Crazy how you pinned a comment 12 hours before the video went live 😂

[@undefined7141]

Dude. Your driving skills are weak. Watching you in that mustang was painful. Don’t blame the car.

[@pickle-o1151]

ecoboost Lightweight big car I can not drive a fiesta st and my head hits in a RS I am 6 foot 8. which a friend of mine now owns a RS amazing car (so I can drive when I want).

[@Mrillsick]

Ford really missed the mark with not making an s2000 and miata competitor. Small convertible roadster with the 2.3 ecoboost would've been sick

[@foxwithshades7080]

They wouldn't have the 2.3L in that application it would be suicide. They would likely have they 1.7L from the focus. At most probably a 2.0L.

[@Welcometofacsistube]

Agreed. You could then compare the matching purses that each car comes with

[@artureff3046]

@@foxwithshades7080 why there is Lotus with 3.0 (similar weight) not saying AC Cobra with 5.0 or bigger one

[@SireEvalish]

Lol why would they make a car no one would actually buy and wouldn’t make them any money?

[@anonymouscat5516]

that would be a fiata competitor wouldnet it?

[@Dekemyster]

I drive a 2018 Ecoboost PP. I bought it because I couldn’t justify spending that much money on a GT (I got mine for $10k USD cheaper than a base GT), but still wanted a fun daily that looked good and had more power and space than a Miata/86. The Ecoboost definitely fills that role, and the Perf Pack helps separate it from the rental fleets. Its main downside is that the GT simply exists. Comparison is the thief of joy 🤷‍♂️

[@chaff5]

I think the only fault of the 4cly Mustang is the weight.

[@Dekemyster]

@@chaff5 Agreed, a lighter fastback with this engine would be killer. It’s obvious the car wasn’t designed for a 4cyl when you drive it. But I think it’s still enough power/weight ratio for some affordable sporty fun

[@audiwankenobi361]

My son has a 2015 EcoBoost, I love driving it! It's not stock either, very fun car to operate.

[@Dekemyster]

@@audiwankenobi361 I’m running Cobb Stage 1 91 Octane. Really fun car when modded! Not super fast, but it’s quick

[@audiwankenobi361]

@@Dekemyster we don't know if he car is tuned or not because we got it used....it doesn't have mufflers is all that we are sure of. We got a warranty at least.

[@pezz_pezzer]

I can tell you this about that car; one of the very fastest drivers in my entire SCCA Autocross division is a guy with a lightly modded Ecoboost Mustang and has to compeate against "class giants" like the BRZ / 86 and other lighter sports cars and he wins and finishes top three often. He even won nationals in his class a couple of years ago. The lower weight on the front axel really allows the car to stick to the track better for a much lower price than the 5.0 Mustangs and still be competitive. Great option for a value priced part time racecar.

[@ZackNakazora1]

This is what I tell people. The chassis is so well sorted and you get oem plus take off parts. And they can eat 18x10 wide tires. This car shouldn't compete in stock class with the brz. I think that's Cs and a mustang is Fs? But I think they are both stx class or bsp

[@pezz_pezzer]

@@ZackNakazora1 you are probably right as I forgot to look at the ones he talks about that are hardest for him to beat. Still a great autocross option.

[@ZackNakazora1]

@@pezz_pezzer and for me and this is the big part Yuri and jakeb didn't cover. For the price you are physically getting a more usable car. More metal for thr dollar. And the mustang regardless of engine will always be the dollar per metal winner to me. Hell I think the base eb is cheaper than the gr86 base..

[@mytruthslays1303]

Competitive with small engine cars, yes. The v8s, not a chance.

[@travis3810]

Yep the fastest SSCA guy in my region drives the 4 cylinder Camaro with the ZL1 pack

[@routecauseacademy]

I bought a 2020 Mustang 2.3 HPP convertible in Twister Orange. While not as visceral as my 2013 Boss 302, it easily outclasses my 2007 GT convertible. It’s fun to drive, fabulous on gas, and way less to insure than the Boss. All around, a great touring car I’d buy again.

[@jamariiion]

Fair but what doesn’t out class a 3v and can you post the boss

[@bliglum]

Of course it outclasses your 2007 GT! That's back when they still had the weak, old 4.6's. Which made less power than this ecoboost I-4! Plus the added weight of the convertible? Forgetaboutit!

[@pete_bruschi_racing]

I've raced my 2015 Ecoboost Performance Pack over 150 days in 4 years, autocross & track. Plus daily driven 90,000 miles. I'm a 2-time local SCCA Champion, and hold 2-time Fastest Time Of Day's. We're not the fastest in the straight line, but on a very tight, technical autocross course, we can have the edge. We placed 5th out of 77 cars at the Ford Fest Autocross (that's a lot of V8's beat!). The S550 is an incredible car no matter what engine is in it. But I've had GT and Shelby guys ask how I get the car to rotate so well. A lot of it is 200 lbs less on the nose. Despite the hell I've put it through, it's been incredibly reliable. I've worn brakes, tires, bushings, and bearings faster than the average driver. Otherwise, no major issues. I too don't understand why someone would have purchased my car new. Premium Performance Pack car stickers $37,000 in 2015. Well into GT territory. I scooped it up in 2018, with 18,000 miles, for $18,000. Sitting at 108,000 now, I'm not the least bit worried. Done all the preventative maintenance with only top-quality consumables. Blackstone oil analysis say the engine is looking fantastic. The key to longevity is to treat ALL CARS with mechanical sympathy. Don't do a cold start and mat the pedal to the floor. Let the car warm up. Don't shut it off hot, let the car run and cool off for a couple minutes. And the biggest thing with these boost engines: DON'T LUG THE ENGINE. I think Low Speed Pre-Ignition is the most common killer of these. Take care of the car, and it will take care of you.

[@cavaseno]

Definitely would take a base GT over a spec’d out Ecoboost.

[@LorenzoDeprado]

Opposite for me. I aint trying to race kids at lights and would rather be somewhat comfortable.

[@NS416]

@@LorenzoDeprado yeah, not everyone is a car enthusiast and that’s fair. Not everyone wants the most power and fun. Some people want good fuel economy, but this being almost the same price of a mid tier GT is not really that good.

[@angelgjr1999]

Always get the V8. It barely costs more. 2.3 sounds like a civic, even the fiesta sounds better.

[@qualat9340]

@@NS416 Yikes bro. Yikes. Renz didn't say anything contradictory to being a car enthusiast... and yeah he said comfort so now I see what you mean.. because nothing fun is comfortable..?

[@bdpSovietafr0]

V8 is gonna last longer if you aren't flooring it everywhere. NA v8 vs big turbo 4 popper, gimme that V8 all day

[@27Zangle]

There are many reasons someone would buy the Eco boost over the GT. insurance costs, fuel cost, entry cost, etc. Some people have a nice classic or a weekend warrior but have bought the Eco boost as a commuter for the reasons above. Still very fast while saving fuel and being affordable. You just have to shift your perspective and think a little.

[@Chris-hw4mq]

all valid points except they know the GT will be better every time and this will bug you.

[@timdeleij7105]

All savings will be lost on repairs on overpowered tiny engine. Longevity will be effected

[@CrazyBar50cal]

This car exists for the EU market. Over here cars are taxed based on emissions so the 2.3 eco boost sells well whereas no one here buys the bigger engine models.

[@lastnamefirstname520]

I dont know which part of the European Union you are from, but over in Germany and Poland, Czech, Slovakia, Hungary, everyone has the 5,0 and noone buys the 2,3 (formerly 2,7). Europeans who buy muscle cars buy it for the rarity of them. SRT,ZL1,Mustang GT.... theye are the ‘usual’ US cars. Plenty of my colleagues here in Germany in the European Union have them.

[@artureff3046]

in the UK only the 5.0 sells (but private import focuses on Shelby 500)

[@marka.2484]

@@lastnamefirstname520 Well, that's simple. Here in the Netherlands, the 5.0 costs about twice as much as the 2.3 due to tax regulations based on CO2 emission.

[@ekkuhypponen2204]

Here in Finland there are about three ecoboosts per one 5.0 liter.

[@quixomega]

The packages are different in different markets so that logic doesn't hold.

[@nornibres]

The biggest issue I have with my GT convertible is weight. The front end is very heavy. Jay Leno raved about how the ecoboost handled with the 2.3 engine. I could see someone buying this to get a potentially better handling car.

[@jonlosito2004]

I love Jay Leno !!

[@redlion145]

I don't understand why anyone who wanted handling would be considering the Mustang. I mean sure, the highest trims can handle better than base, but there's a gulf in price difference between the Ecoboost and the Mach 1/Shelby models.

[@issavibez394]

@@redlion145 they handle better than Mopar counterpart

[@f8widescat392]

@@issavibez394 a Camaro is a mustang counterpart. Dodge is or was muscle coupes and muscle sedans. Mustang and Camaro are pony cars.

[@NS416]

Why would anyone care bout handling when buying a convertible? All convertibles drive worse then there hard top counter part.

[@MattyIce-gv7ne]

I bought an ultra low mileage 2019 Ecoboost Convertible Premium with all the options and auto trans back in January of 2020 for $23k USD. Couldn't pass that deal up. It handled amazing, looked great, and with the Ford Performance tune i put on it, was legitimately quick. I beat the hell out of it for a year, including track time, it didn't skip a beat, and i still sold it for a small profit. Had great memories in that car, and would totally buy another one

[@slow330xi3]

Bet u ain’t tell the new owner u beat the hell out of it

[@v8_sami]

@@slow330xi3 does anyone ever. “Weekend car. Never driven hard.” Lol

[@slow330xi3]

@@v8_sami it’s mostly highway miles gets me everytime 😭 like stfu I ain’t ask

[@RohanSanjith]

They're strong vehicle, the 10 speed is well tuned

[@bradleyisfishing]

The best spec of that HPP is HPP with the HP with every option base. With a fully spec’d convertible like this, it’s too heavy and soft. I have driven the car I described and it felt awesome. Big brakes, active exhaust, shorter gears, and magneride. Really carved corners better than a GT. It’s built as an autocross car, with 90% of peak torque from 2500-5000 rpm. I have a base ecoboost with mods, and it’s one of my favorite cars I have driven.

[@Jordan-ql8pv]

In non covertible form maybe your argument would hold water. However, if I really wanted a great autocross car I would buy a miata, or MR2, or BRZ....

[@ZackNakazora1]

@@Jordan-ql8pv true if you wanted to buy an autox car you get the one that wins classes.. If you wanted a good car that can carve corners and still be usable the mustang is indefinitely more usable and unlike the focus rs doesn't need bespoke parts to make it fast. Think of this as the brz that adults can actually use. And for the same price

[@MyShawn82]

I have a HPP Ecoboost and I absolutely love it. More than enough power for a daily and handles like a dream. Plus with a nice tune this thing can keep up with a GT. Plus the Handling Package with the coupes are a must

[@ST_DCT]

I got the 2020 HPP loaded and I LOVE this car!

[@cadmando18]

I actually did take the Mustang EcoBoost HPP over the GT because of how much better it was on the track. I own a 2021 Mustang EcoBoost HPP with the handling package, 6 speed manual and it came with Brembo brakes which are bigger than the Mustang GT's brakes. I can be at the track all day long and have been faster on the track than Mustang GT cars, and not overheat, I get no brake fade, and I'm so much more comfortable doing it. It's just a fun car. I won't win a drag race, but on the track, it's dangerous.

[@batman48195]

I have a 2021 HPP convertible premium. It’s a blast to drive and with lower HP than a GT I can run through the gears on the 6 speed manual whereas when I had my 2013 Boss 302 I was already breaking the speed limit in 2nd gear.

[@samlacey3087]

I drive a ‘22 HPP mustang and have zero complaints. Been an amazing car.

[@richgrassmann2009]

Back when I had my Ecoboost, it was a base model 2018 that cost about $23k if memories serves. I got mine because it was an affordable entry to a new sports car that I could daily drive. The tuning potential is awesome and fuel economy was between 25-30mpg on average. Overall, it was just a fun and affordable car and a really easy to learn platform for modifying.

[@diulusgarage]

I got the HPP Ecoboost with the HP which gives it the MagneRide and Pirelli corsa tires because the car is way better for auto cross than the v8 and for an 18 year old male the insurance was $4K cheaper a year compared to the 5.0.

[@im_cursed_huh9926]

Just get a gt bruh

[@spydey2k]

That transition to and from the Z was chef's kiss

[@Dragon228833]

Met some dude in a target parking lot with one and it was awesome in person. We started drag racing stop light to stop light but we both lacked driver mod 😂

[@qiwentan5318]

One advantage of the Ecoboost mustang that people from NA mostly don't get is actually the price advantage interms of tax. In China sales tax for consumer vehicle that has an engine between 2.0 to 2.5 are 9%, but for a vehicle that has an 4.0+ engine will be 40%. Which is a huge different and many countries has similar tax policies now.

[@Arcticarc1]

in Canada, I pay 200$~ a year more because of the 5.0 🤷‍♂

[@etmccaus]

The badge is actually kinda cool...direct throwback to the original HiPo engine badges on the '65-'66. Added one to my 2.3L Bronco to give it a retro touch without resorting to the OG script emblems everyone keeps resorting to...

[@e46m54nissansr20937]

The badge is definitely cool

[@GabouryMatt]

I bought an ecoboost brand new in 2017 and I regretted it shortly after. It's the economy model that isn't very economic. It looks like a sports car but doesn't drive sporty, and really isn't fast by any means. It doesn't matter what exhaust you pick, it won't sound good. The amount of issues I saw with the 2.3L (after i had bought mine) killed a lot of interest in it as well. It's the definition of an "okay at best" car. Fun when it's new. but a week later you're over it.

[@GabouryMatt]

Why I bought in initially: Worked as a Ford tech at the time, got a stupid good deal on it with employee pricing (25K CAD brand new). This made it significantly cheaper than the Focus / Fiesta STs I was looking at getting. The grabber blue is beautiful. Turning radius is great, and the seats are probably my favorite part about the car.

[@kingretard100]

my experience was the same i bought one new with a 2019 Eco boost with 11 miles with every single package in orange fury i got tired of it really quick and sold it about 9 months later with only 3298 miles

[@f8widescat392]

Most of us start with the base model because we're broke then work our way up. I started with an sxt back in the day I didn't mind it but thing was slow af.

[@angelgjr1999]

@@f8widescat392 You can always buy an older V8, that sounds better and more fun. 4 cylinder mustangs just don’t sound right.

[@f8widescat392]

@@angelgjr1999 I know I'm just saying when you don't know much about cars and engines you make the mistake sometimes

[@4RealHero]

That ‘Give her a rip boys’ moment 🤣🤣🤣

[@Toomsa-art]

I think they made this car for all the tourists doing US fly-drive holidays. We borrowed a non v8 Mustang a number of years ago - was still an awesome experience, even without the v8!

[@wakjob961]

My 73 yr. old neighbor/friend just bought one of those. He's shocked at the fact that it's only a four cylinder for how quick it is. Also, someone on YT figured out a fix for the messed up geometry in the rear suspension that plagues these newer generation Stangs.

[@oakleydoeseverything6438]

My eyes got big and I actually scoffed out loud when Yuri said that the 94 mustang is the best looking one......

[@celesseg-ny6ji]

I have a 22. And I love it. Didn’t feel like breaking the bank and found a great price w under 29k miles. My first ever Ford vehicle. That is something I can afford right now while adding fun mods.

[@JoelOman1980]

Owning a MX-5, I can confirm that you CAN drive a rear wheel drive manual convertible in the winter! (Sweden resident here!) Thanks guys, reviews are spot on as always! Cheers!

[@smilton9682]

My winter car is a 2000 Miata I lightly modified with all new suspension bushings, brakes, intake, SS exhaust and header, and winter wheels and tires. I paid $1500 for it a year and a half ago and all in in it cost me a little over $3K. Absolute blast to drive in summer and even more so in New England winter.

[@photonarbiter]

I've got a 2017 Ecoboost that I bought back in 2018. At the time it was almost 15k cheaper than a similarly spec'd GT. As a first car it just made more sense to get, the fuel economy is great even after I got it tuned. 24mpg after 100k miles and the base was faster than the previous generation GT. With an exhaust mod people mistake it for having a V8 often. I still want a V8 in my next car but this thing has been incredible over the last 4 years of daily use up and down the east coast. It's a great entry point for a lot of people that can still be driven fast, especially with how inflated prices have gotten lately I'm surprised you guys didn't mention how advantageous that is for new enthusiasts looking to get into sports cars. It's not fair to compare the top level Ecoboost to the base GT in my opinion.

[@revistadearmas]

Cool, any issues with the car after that mileage ? Mine has a Small Emission leak ev 60k miles. I do 100 miles commute to work. My dilema to keep the car after 100k miles or just trade in just to avoid any issues

[@photonarbiter]

@@revistadearmas I haven’t had any issues with the car. I get the oil changed on or slightly ahead of time and my commute is around 70 miles round trip. Plus other frequent long drives on weekends. I got it used at 32k miles and its been tuned for around 40k miles now. Im hoping to move up to a C8 in the future. This thing has been amazing to me over the years.

[@nomismi1]

@@revistadearmas Coyote swaps are a thing...

[@ArchimedeanEye]

Sorry, no car person mistakes it for V8. Not ever.

[@photonarbiter]

@@ArchimedeanEye I wouldn’t gain anything by lying about what people have genuinely told me. People who owned older V8 mustangs thought my MBRP exhaust gave it the same rumble.

[@joyceofdriving4954]

My '19 GT gets good enough gas mileage. Averaging 21mpg. Got best of 27.5 mpg on a tank, that was mostly highway with some traffic and a little bit around town. That is NOT using the dash gauge but actually calculating it myself. My worst tank ever was 16mpg and I was flooring, it everywhere, doing triple digits and leaving it in lower gears in sport mode to hear the exhaust.

[@RohanSanjith]

Your pfp looks like a Camaro?

[@RohanSanjith]

It's that 10 speed or manual

[@joyceofdriving4954]

@@RohanSanjith 6speed manual

[@joyceofdriving4954]

@@RohanSanjith That was my last car. I bought the Stang a year ago.

[@Roseplacencio]

@@joyceofdriving4954i have this vehicle MPG ON PEDDLE SHIFTERS at 2 half gear and 9-10mpg handling is trash

[@12gauge_shawtyy]

my grandparents rented one of these when they flew out to visit and kept talking about the v8 and how fast it was 😂 i didn’t have the heart to tell them it was a 4 banger but hey, it was still pretty fun! Great car honestly.

[@gabrielgestopa2742]

“I almost mustanged us there” - Best line in this video.

[@pancakemaster412]

I have a 2018 ecoboost and I absolutely love it. I bought it on my own when I was 18 and I’m proud of my accomplishment. There will always be a better faster car. For the price which is significantly less than a gas sucking v8, it’s a fun car. I grew up seeing mustangs on the road and I’ve always wanted one but in this economy I can’t afford a gt.

[@NonovUrbizniz]

The guy who built my engine does mustangs usually. He’s a well known engine builder on the east coast. He bought one of these for his daughter and said it was fantastic. He thought it was going to be a pig but was really impressed with how much usable power it had, and spec’d out right you could get them dirt cheap.

[@169abr]

They make great torque for around town honestly

[@RobCabreraCh]

I've always thought that getting a base 2.3L Mustang and modifying the hell out of it for track days would make it a sick GT4 class race car. Make it as light as possible, change the suspension, change the clutch and maybe the transmission if you can, and put semislicks, full slicks, and huge brakes. It would be so sick!

[@cdl34453]

If you tune this car it can be incredibly fast I’m talking 400whp with a big turbo fast and it keeps it curb weight

[@BrawndoQC]

No doubt about that, I've a tuned Explorer ST with 400 at the wheels, but a Mustang with a weak 4 cyl ecoboost is weird. I owned a GT and a GT350 new gens. I never hated on the ecoboosts, but if I wanted something with that kind of engine I would get something else.

[@TrevForPresident]

Comparison is the thief of joy. This is not a Mach 1 or traditionally desirable Mustang, but it's pretty slick and competes well at the price imo

[@JohnSandovalesq]

Last year I drove the rental spec version of this car while I was working in California. I think it was a premium spec convertible Ecoboost with automatic transmission. I drove that car for almost a month and was surprised how much I liked it. Great freeway cruiser and having the top down while cruising HB was a very California experience. I would buy the premium spec coupe with the manual if I had space for a second car.

[@edmeyer4800]

Not in California traffic 😄

[@PezDSpencer604]

Its good to know those 2.3L engines are still in production. Will need one when my RS eventually blows up 😂

[@XAMPOL]

I know it's inevitable but don't jynx it ;)

[@fabianvargas5363]

I own an A10 convertible ecoboost and an A10 GT premium. With 93 octane the ecoboost is really quick. Faster than almost every other car on the road. Above 60mph is where you really feel the difference between the two. The turbos just make the powerbands so much different. That and the ecoboost feels like it gets no additional power from 4500+ but the 5.0 keeps pulling harder all the way to 7500.

[@Whatisthisstupidfinghandle]

A10 Warthog comes in a convertible?

[@fabianvargas5363]

@@Whatisthisstupidfinghandle only with the main gun removed. Something to do with 20mm casings flying into the cabin

[@intochill]

I wanted a convertible with decent power and a huge trunk for 16,000 km road trips that would max the highway fuel efficiency. A cool looking car in red. One that’s not as bad for the environment since I knew I’d be piling on the miles. That v8 was tempting but the convertible cost $4,000 more and I couldn’t justify the upgrade for even more power in a wobbly handling convertible.

[@MMOchAForPrez]

"Giver a rip boys" Canadian moment ❤️

[@mikebroom1866]

Drove an auto 2.3L mustang on vaca many years ago. Impressed with the performance and 31mpg highway. I'm a GM guy, but I'd take a mustang over a camaro.

[@ZackNakazora1]

But Chevy actually made their 4 popper good with the 1le.then stopped offering jt

[@sethguinan7914]

I own a 2021 ecoboost (automatic) and bought it brand new. I was eager to buy a mustang but didn't want to spend the money for a GT. After almost 2 years of ownership I have put down about 21000 miles and have little complaints. But to be honest after a while I regret not getting the GT only because the stock ecoboost is a bit too quiet for me and just is no where near in power to the GT. I must say the 4 cylinder gets really good gas mileage, I average around 24-33 freeway and street combined.

[@TKO593]

I have a ranger with a 2.3l eco boost. From what I understand it has a beefed up bottom end. I also got the Ford 93 box tune. It’s a fun little truck.

[@wallythacker7772]

I’m patiently waiting on a maverick st with recaros and the 2.3 6spd. Maybe one day Lmao

[@Sneaky5.sl0w.]

The Ecoboost are pretty good motors. You can go FBO for minimal cost and be faster than a GT. My buddies 2015 Ecoboost Premium made 351rwhp/422rwtq with FBO on 93 and he pulls on the newer LT1 Camaros, and 392 Scatpacks. The gen 3 5.0s is more of a challenge though.

[@Welcometofacsistube]

No they're not. Pure garbage engines. Ask anyone with a focus rs, any edge or escape.

[@nboy7]

@@Welcometofacsistube Says who ? Tuners like TunePlus, MAP and PurpleDrank have been getting obscene power (500HP+) from these engines for over 7 years now and many of the cars are daily drivers.

[@Sneaky5.sl0w.]

@@Welcometofacsistube My buddies Ecoboost has 80k+ miles on the motor with FBO and has no issues and runs it hard.

[@coastalparasail]

Yeah, but how reliable are they? How long are they gonna last like that , with all these mods ?

[@nboy7]

@@coastalparasail They can last pretty long if you keep the power below 450HP, some guys are close to 100k miles without issues and because these are tuned cars they are driven hard. They have failure points, like the cylinder sleeves can crack cause they are open deck, though it’s actually not that expensive to replace the block with a semi closed or deck reinforcement. Excluding Ford RS 2.3s (faulty head gaskets) ive seen more Coyotes fail than ecoboosts.

[@MerrillZinck]

Three weeks ago I took delivery of an Ecoboost Mustang (was promised delivery in August but only received it the first week of November ... frustrating ordering a vehicle these days!) with the 201A equipment group, high performance package, handling package, and the B&O premium sound system. Went this route instead of the GT because I wanted something that looked good, had enough power to make it fun to drive, and wouldn't break the bank every time I take it out of the garage. My vehicle is optioned much nicer than the base GT so worth the extra $10K. The car accomplishes what I was looking for. My only complaint is the transmission, which is an issue that you pointed out in the video. It is unfortunate that the EcoBoost and GT cannot be optioned with the Tremec transmission.

[@nstylemotorsportsracing1471]

My first car was a 1992 Ford Mustang LX 5.0 notch back. I’m not even kidding right now 😂 I literally want to buy a 2024 just for the gauge cluster throwback! Just seeing that Cluster brought back so many memories! I think I’m sold on one now 😅

[@sneakingfox5887]

I have a 91 notchback ex highway patrol, it’s my first car. and the speedo tops out at 160 like the 2024. Super clean

[@chrispyy606060606]

I was Camaro guy back in the early-mid 90s but seeing that Mustang gauge cluster reminded me of so many old racing freinds with 5.0s. 😊

[@Davido50]

I would & will buy one w/ track pack. Its an excellent sports car that's efficient / great MPG's/sport & suspension modes. It's a beast for a 2.3L TGDI.

[@john-martin]

Little 4 cylinder makes more power than the 2001 Mustang GT V8 and Mustang Bullitt V8. Thats crazy.

[@angelgjr1999]

Ehh stock for stock yes, the 4,6 you gotta do some mods and gearing to wake them up. :) Also the SN95 platform is much lighter than any S550 premium package.

[@robsolf]

And yet they're slower. But still, that's impressive.

[@Mr1T2X1]

Indeed..the 1979 turbo (Garrett) 2.3L Mustang was 130hp and the 302 CI V8 was closer to 150 HP. I had a 2.3L in my 1974 Ford Pinto Runabout. It was a whopping 80-something HP. Top speed? 64 MPH 😂😂

[@foxbat2581]

You gotta go back 20 years to compare the performance of a 2.3 to a V8? I know a lot of people with 20+ year old V8's and almost none of them are stock, most are modded. Ecoboost has a spot but not up against V8s usually.

[@philipstewart4474]

That’s a beautiful vehicle, color and manual transmission high output 2.3L convertible. The heart ❤️ wants

[@arno7303]

In Australia, the ecoboost is about 55k vs 65k for GT. I owned one for 3 years and would have kept it if we didn't have a couple of kids. Long road trips, nothing beats it. I was getting around 7.2l/100km or 33MPG on road trips. That is with a custom tune, full exhaust, full intake, DV+ and other bits and pieces. Manual fastback. Around 350hp atw and 580Nm. On E30 fuel it had a bit more torque. Anyway, at the track, i pantsed the GT drivers. They would SLIGHTLY pull out a lead on the front straight, then i would catch them under braking, similar brakes but 200kg lighter, would easily real them in or pull away from them through the twisty bits by a LONG margin. And then on the straights i could see them slightly catching up. I wasn't overtaken once. I overtook 6. Anyway, maybe drivermod. Its a good car. Annual registration here also is big. 4cyl is $550 and V8 is $1000 each year. Speed diff is minor. You buy a GT, that model anyway, for the noise. Nothing more.

[@RohanSanjith]

You must be using a very sophisticated cooling system

[@RohanSanjith]

It's that 10 speed or manual? i think the 10 speed can put power down better

[@arno7303]

@@RohanSanjith it had a Wagner intercooler. It was pretty sweet. I ran 5w-40 synthetic ford approved oil. I never had oil temp issues. intake issues on 36C days or above was an issue on prolonged runs. But you could still hit boost quite a few times no worries at all. On E30 fuel, it runs much cooler, so in summer i'd run E30 over 98 pump fuel more often.

[@arno7303]

@@RohanSanjith the 10spd is better because it had launch control and shifts much faster. The MT-82 is a trash gearbox. Really fine for back winding roads... like 8 tenths driving. Anything where you are trying to fly through the gears from a dig is rubbish. 1st is jumpy. either bog or wheelspin. i could bog, THEN wheelspin due to torque... Second gear, nothing but wheelspin. Third gear, wheelspin. It starts getting some traction if you just keep it in... But that was my frustration. Pzeros 255's. A modified ecoboost needs 275s, but then you're putting a lot more strain on the engine bottom end and adding weight.

[@warfighter4129]

1995 Probe SE owner here. They're still amazing cars and its always fun to think what a modern Probe would be! Unfortunately theres no place for them in Fords current lineup and if it really did come back itd be a hybrid or ev crossover.

[@charlesjames1442]

I went from a ‘93 Probe GT that I had for 14 years, to a ‘13 Focus ST. Now they’re both gone. But the ST is a great car; fast, cheap, safe, dependable and versatile. Best car I’ve ever owned in 60 years of driving.

[@warfighter4129]

@@charlesjames1442 speaking of safety i love how in the brochures for the 2nd gen Probe they Bragged about dual airbags and a metal crash rod they put in the door. Goes to show how safety has changed in 30 years!

[@Corabar]

Those engines have lots of potential. Originally ford used it as a test engine in the Mazdaspeed 3. Before the Focus RS. The Rs engine had better internals though. And Id guess that performance version has even better internals. Anyway. Even on my speed3 400 whp was easily obtainable with just bolt ons and an E50 mix tune. I wanna see what people can do with this

[@PacoRobbins]

What drugs are you on???? No Speed3 made 400 wheel with bolt ons and E. I had a big turbo running E and made 385 wheel out of my Speed3. Bolt ons and E got you around 330 wheel on the high side with that shitty K04.

[@BenasTei]

2016 Mustang 2.3 HPP owner. Got it in 2020. I call mine SUSHI BURGER. Japanese ingredients in American package. 4 cylinder turbo, rear drive sports coupe, with LSD and independent suspension a.k.a the modern Nissan Silvia s15. Mine has MAPerformance race intercooler, charge pipe, MBRP race exhaust, HKS bov. I have to say, that from a 4 cylinder baby pony Mustang, you can get a lot of performance. Yes v8 is cool, but having turbo noises and lower running costs makes it quite appealing for a 25 year old me. Plus the non-facelifted model is such a head turner, looks better than the new one (s650). With Mustang, you really get a lot of attention for not that much money. Turbo generates more torque down low which actually makes it a drift car.

[@TaraMartin-wr2kl]

Heavy convertible + no handling package = not great! The best option for this is the coupe w/ handling package. Really wish Ford bundled the HPP and the HP together since the HPP by itself kind of sucks. If you drive it with no HP, you're kind of setting yourself up to be disappointed.

[@zippynick10]

2019 pp1 ecoboost fully loaded - got it for 25k US with 20k miles and have loved it ever since

[@ryanking6811]

I would cross shop this with the Camaro 1LE honestly. If the price was right

[@mavfan1]

what would you do dishonestly?

[@ryanking6811]

@@mavfan1 Dishonestly, I would tell you that I’m going out to buy a Ferrari Enzo instead of the new 2.3L Ecoboost Mustang

[@jonlosito2004]

Or a Dodge Challenger GT

[@dustyice3110]

@@ryanking6811 gratz on the enzo! 😮

[@Gee_Dub]

4:05 1986 4 eye, fuel injected, LX notch with T-Tops is the best fox.

[@itscu]

The high performance ecoboost isn’t complete without the handling package, it handles so well, has stickier tires and gets a interior upgrade. I used to have one. Basically you reviewed the wrong one in my opinion.

[@mikemeholic2093]

They absolutely reviewed the wrong one. Of course the heavier variant without the better handling goodies is going to seem worse. My girlfriend drives a 2020 with both packages and it drives like a DREAM. Car is literally on rails going through tight canyon roads. It’s a little slower than the 5.0, but it’s not slow by any means. IMO, it’s the better all around sports car.

[@itscu]

@@mikemeholic2093 totally agree. Id take it over a base gt anyday. If you really wanted to you could make it as fast as a 5.0. Just wont sound like one. But for the price the the hpp with the handling pack is a steal.

[@shawndcollier]

I drive the Roush version of the Ecoboost Mustang. With little effort it makes way more power than a GT with better weight balance for track driving.

[@MTNorville]

If they'd put this motor in a RWD sedan, they would have had a BMW 3 series competitor. I had the opportunity to drive my dads regular 2.3. It was so easy to drive, and to put where I wanted it. It's a great entry level drivers car.

[@DeuceDeuceBravo]

Too bad Ford doesn't make sedans

[@Yukikazehalo]

Ford made the Fusion Sport with the 2.7 Ecoboost and Lincoln MKZ with the 400hp 3.0 Ecoboost but they were front-biased AWD.

[@jamesb2291]

Cadillac ats is closest you'll find

[@phatcowboy76]

I bought a 2017 Ecoboost Mustang automatic because I needed a new car and I paid like $27,500 back in June 2017. I did some research and the Ecoboost at the time was a good price/performance balance. I'm single and have no kids. I also liked the way it looked and I hate the bugeye look of many small semi-performance hatches back then. The GT started at 35K back then and I didn't want to pay that much. It's been a good car except the one thing i hated was no 8" infotainment screen. Mine is 3.5" and not a touchscreen. You had to opt for the Ecoboost premium back then and that was thousands more with other options I didn't need. If Ford would have charged me $1000 more just for the 8" screen i would have paid that. But like most automakers they tie the good options to a large package to get more money out of consumers. No thanks. The price I paid included the performance package. Which takes the suspension, brakes, wheels and Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires, 3.55 rear-end gear, and the larger radiator from the GT for like $2K. This was worth every penny. Those Michelins are fantastic tires. I replaced them with all season Michelins at 25k miles. That was a sad day but had to be done.

[@09blackcobaltss]

As an owner of a 2021 Hpp ecoboost mustang with the handling package and upgraded sync. I will tell you why I bought it. A comparable GT was 7k more with the same options. A Base GT was around the same price what I paid for my upspec Ecboost. And the crappy small screen in the base did t cut it and the handling wasn't the same as good. Also my car handles like it's on rails when it sport plus or track. Had a ton of fun on Tail of the Dragon.

[@itscu]

Yeah definitely need to get it with the handling package or else its just a slightly upgraded regular ecoboost

[@freewheeler1728]

Why is it so hard to understand? I'd buy that Mustang over other higher spec models - BECAUSE, I just want a convertible manual car that I can fully enjoy driving WHILE commuting in leisurely country road - I'm not gonna compete in a circuit or Autobahn or something, I can't afford to accumulate speeding tickets - why would I need all that power from 5L or V8 engines??('course I'm OK with getting 5L or V8 engine models IF I can get them with NO additional cost) - Now tell me again, what is it that you don't understand about 2.3L Mustang?

[@the_jarmel]

👏👏👏 LOVED THE SHOW GUYS .....HAVE A BEAUTIFUL DAY EVERYONE ✌️🙏

[@keithadams897]

You too mate

[@Schmitzelhaus]

That situation with the truck driver perfectly summs this car up imo. It´s not a bad car at all, but it can´t live up to the expectations you have for a Mustang. And over here in Europe compared to other current cars, you actually have one of the "bigger" engines with 2.3l as most of the common models now usually are in the 1.6 to 2.0l range.

[@elliottmanning4116]

I guess they didn’t realize that the base engine in the Camaro is a turbo 4 cylinder, that actually has less power. 4 cylinders exist in sports cars.

[@dammyo6010]

I love all engine types. 4 cyl, 6cyl, V8, anything. But if I'm ever going to own a mustang, it will definitely be a V8. V6 and 4 cylinder turbo mustangs are good for some people, but those people are not me.

[@aoclive6710]

V8 all the way

[@nstylemotorsportsracing1471]

I completely agree you couldn’t have said it better! That high output 4 pot mustang is a really cool car. Front engine rear drive 330 BHP! There’s tons of aftermarket support for it, on track it’s actually lighter and set up correctly could definitely be a killer track weapon. If people could get over the V8 thing it’s really an excellent performance car.

[@zr2trackerjoe]

Honestly had the full rental spec auto 2024 this past week and it was a legitimately fun car to run around in. The 10 speed was surprisingly smooth and kept the power right there

[@RealAvus]

This model exist mainly for the countries that charge plate fee by engine size like Japan.

[@mvcharisma]

The random guy telling you to rip it was the star of the show

[@abkhaikrasovskyi8895]

I'm not sure about pricing in America but here, in the eu, it's a good option because ecoboost costs almost twice less than gt. So probably Ford made mustang ecoboost for europe and people who wanted a sport car but not that expensive and with huge engine. For example in my country ecoboost costs 25k$ and gt 40k$ so of course I would buy ecoboost :)

[@PinkyPowers]

Since I totaled my Challenger V8 HEMI earlier this year, my daily driver is this high-mileage 2011 Mustang V6. And you know what? It's fun! 305hp, manual transmission... it's an enjoyable toy.

[@ViewtifulTj]

I'm a little bummed that Yuri didn't try to photoshop a convertible RS

[@terryhetherington3364]

I have a 2019 Convertible. I added the performance tune. I love it. Tons of low rpm torque for mountain cruising. 7liters/100 at 110km with performance tune and 94 octane. There is a Mustang for everyone.

[@doggedlydetermined7022]

If you take away the fact that it’s a mustang (a generally V8 powered muscle car) it’s actually a pretty cool vehucle

[@Sneaker-Bot]

i drive a 2023 Ford Mustang Ecoboost HIGH PERFORMANCE Pack Convertible, love it, sounds great, but my stock came looking way cooler than this, different badges and grille. As a 26yo with it i get lots of looks when driving it

[@stuartzagnit5972]

In my country the insurance premiums are three times as high for the V8, not to mention the difference in tax. I could never afford a V8 Mustang, but if this high performance ecoboost version was available to me I would be genuinely interested. Sadly the ecoboost didn't sell here and was taken off sale after just a couple years, most people here couldn't imagine a Mustang without the V8. Looking at the sticker price only is increasingly pointless in a lot of countries as insurance and malus co2 tax adds hundreds every month to a lease or car mortgage.

[@chalexander12]

Purchased my HPP with Magnaride, auto and 401A package for a little over $41000 CDN. It is a wicked handling and performing car. I just don't understand all the YTvideos complaining about it...Do you complain about a Porsche Cayman because it's not a 911 Targa 4 GTS ?

[@pcthayer]

In the future it will be a rare car with the optional 2.3 hipo package, like the old SVO is now (I wouldn't spec it as a convt though.) I always liked them due to the uniqueness of them. They were made more for the handling since it is lighter than the V8 in the front end so I was surprised the car almost got away from you when you drove it hard in the corners.

[@DeuceDeuceBravo]

rare ≠ good

[@09blackcobaltss]

Cause they were over driving the car and we don't even know what driving mode they were in.

[@pcthayer]

@@DeuceDeuceBravo Well, considering the engine problems the Focus RS had, perhaps you are right, but for future value it could be a collectable. Everything on that Mustang seems to be the same as other models except the engine. (Who would have thought the Pontiac Tempest/Lemans with the 6 cyl Sprint package would be collectable compared to the V8)

[@davidwilkey62]

@@DeuceDeuceBravo Rare = $$$

[@davidwilkey62]

@@pcthayer Strengthen block, upgraded head gasket, 30 less hp

[@evanneiswanger]

I bought a convertible EcoBoost Premium to rent out on Turo. I live in SoCal and wanted renters to have a comfortable convertible with nice features. I genuinely like it though. I wouldn’t take it out to the canyons but it wafts down the freeway comfortably. If it was for myself, I’d go V8 coupe all day

[@TFSIChristmas]

Yeah my favourite muscle car after the Golf mk8 I consider it muscle car.

[@OdysseusMcNobody]

I got my eco Crowd Killer more as an expensive way to cope with my dog passing away. It has been the funnest ride ever. It gave me something to smile about and yes IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE thats why its so fun to drive. I didnt go with a GT because i am coming from 150hp honda civic and i didn't wanna spin out and end up on Instagram. So as a training Mustang and daily driver it has been an absolute blast. You can still catch the light and make the turns faster than most other daily drivers.

[@undernova777]

I cant for yall to review the new pos that came from subaru. That new impreza is wack, and not in a good way.

[@Acc0rd79]

Straight to the rental lot! So I work in Orlando and anytime you see a Mustang convertible with the top down you know it's a rental car. They are never 5.0s and even if it's 100 degrees outside they will have the top down. It's such a joke and you always know they are from out of town. This will be all over the Orlando airport rental lots.

[@harveymushman4190]

For a 4 cylinder that's some pretty decent numbers 👌

[@dannyjackson1331]

I got mine as a grand tourer. Over 30 mpg highway with a stick that has auto cruise control and comfortably fits 6 feet folks.

[@lukadubois9166]

Someone from Europe here, this car exists because the taxes are crazy for the V8. But that’s in Belgium, I don’t know for the other countries. So 2,3L is good alternative.

[@cavaseno]

They want to hate it but they can’t 😂

[@erob3878]

Previously owning a SHO NPP..i love V8s. Live in NYC, gas prices, everyday driver,insurance and future winter driving..went with the HPP.. No remorse...the options are superfun

[@ajaurgemma5341]

I had a 2016 ecoboost. I paid 28,600 US for it back then. It was a premium package and still came in a good few grand less than a base GT. Main reason I bought it was I was 21 and didnt feel like paying for the extra insurance premium on a GT. With a few mods I was able to get it to compete with a GT 0-60 but I always hated the fatct that I didn’t just spend the extra cash and got myself a GT. Now that the new one is on its way I might have to finally get one lol. It was a nice car tho. Fun to drive and got pretty good gas mileage on the highway (34mpg after a tune and intake).

[@wompa70]

I loved my 1998 GT. 225 hp and 290 ft-lbs from a 4.6 liter V8. I'll take power over sound any day of the week. While there IS a GT that matches the price, you sacrifice a lot to get there. No MagneRide, no active exhaust, dinky radio, no Brembos, etc. If all you want is straight-line speed, the stripped GT is the way to go.

[@davidwilkey62]

Exactly.

[@S8ER]

As someone who owned an LS1 Z28…. 99% of the time the 1998 GT would have been the better pick. That sound was amazing and realistically how often are you racing? Plus gears + PI conversion and the 98 GT was pretty formidable.

[@ROMEINTOPSYCHOPATH]

Manual 💓

[@jaylive9321]

I absolutely loved it when I took it for an test drive, purchased an 2020 Mustang 2.3l high performance ecoboost last year for $38,000 new. Obviously doesn’t compare to my Model X Plaid but I always wanted an rear wheel sports car. It’s my daily driver!!!

[@defyyourlogic487]

Of course the Tesla driver would buy an ecoboost

[@jaylive9321]

@@defyyourlogic487 With the chip shortage last year all the V8’s where taking and I didn’t want to buy used so that’s what I got. I’m definitely an V8 lover don’t get it twisted, but it doesn’t matter any way I’m still the fastest out here with the plaid 😂

[@guntherferguson2369]

@@defyyourlogic487 Always count on a Tesla owner to mention their Tesla even if they are having a conversation about Mustangs 😅

[@drbtr3v893]

Hopefully this thing can keep up id love to see a race in between the v8 and this

[@occckid123]

Why would this keep up with the v8???

[@drbtr3v893]

@@occckid123 I said keep up , not beat Inna race . I want to see the difference

[@Isaiahkang93]

I bought 2022 hpp convertible ecoboost shown here bc my wife loves it. She likes 4 cylinder bc it is safer and less intimidating n noisy. It rides so well especially from 0 to 35mph which is perfect for nyc driving at night through side of central park or FDR drive. Fuel economy for me is 12-13 average. This model is low key high class. It is so comfortable and zippy zappy in handling the curve. Very eye catching due to its front and rear mark design. No one told me they did not like my car. Very proud of my purchase and not jealous or regretting against V8 which is prone to accident and arrogance. Heated handle and heated/ventilated seats are great for summer/winter. Speakers are dope and fun to max the volume it wont hurt ears too much. 80 bucks for full tank. Feels amazing driving in highways. Be careful in wet roads or frozen roads due to how powerful the torque is when trying to accelerate from 0 (be gentle pushing the gas paddle, if not, car shakes when starting side to side). I feel driving experience feels elegant. So far drove 4000 miles and it has been about 2 years. Love my babe.

[@TheCarKrazeOfficial]

People who are saving up for the v8 or v6

[@shroomyesc]

What V6?

[@antoinelee-thomas9536]

The V6 Mustang has been gone since the 2017 model year if I'm not mistaken.

[@ItamiSenpai]

Bought a 2.3 EB for a daily and it's been great. Low milage 5.0 mustangs start at around 60k€ here in Europe, closer to 70k if you want new.