Ford Mustang track review: 2.3 HP vs V8 GT (inc. lap times!) | MOTOR

[@stephenvelden295]

Just ordered a California Special. Not interested in taking it on the track. Ordered the Mageride though. I feel if I bought the 4 cylinder I would always regret not getting the V8.

[@brentgath4447]

Yup, you would have. Enjoy your new Pony!

[@fordguy3032]

Congrats! What color? I have a 21 GT/CS Fastback in Velocity Blue with MT82 and love it. Mine is not going to the track either. I've been a V8 guy since the 70's and jsut couldn't get past the sound of the 4 banger exhaust! Nothing against the ecoboost...I have it in my 2020 explorer and it has great pickup for a explorer. Just can't do it in a Mustang when V8s are still available....

[@stephenvelden295]

@@fordguy3032 I ordered Mischievous Purple and Magneride. I'm in Australia BTW.

[@fakebrake]

I believe you would. If I ever got one the v8 is the only way.

[@stephenvelden295]

@@uncle_salty_3675 the engine and power is exactly the same as the GT. It has 10 less HP this year, regardless what model you order. 10 HP is negligible, it's not gonna bother me!

[@wg8290]

I have a GT and enjoy the manual gearbox going 30 mph. I just like shifting through the gears and hearing the noise.

[@s58xeno]

manual just sucks racing when ur in higher gears, thank god i switched to the auto. not as fun that’s for sure but the car has less chinese parts

[@wg8290]

@@s58xeno Yeah, I imagine the auto is a drag machine for sure. I don't race but just enjoy fun driving. Cheers!

[@s58xeno]

@@wg8290 respect to you! hope Ford has another good final GT in the making for 2023!

[@pekipeki7681]

I have the same...GT 5.0 manual. Pure fun.

[@SizzlingStu]

Mine is due to arrive in April with a manual and MagneRide, apparently you cannot order a manual anymore in the EU/UK so I am lucky. I drove an auto version for 10 days a few years back and it's no way as fun and a bit irritating at times.

[@TranceParadise]

Well, I did 6000 km in Mustang Ecoboost 2023 and I must say it's a hell of a car. Fast, it gets attention, it looks, it's great to drive and fuel consumtion is around 26-27 mpg (9-10 l/100 km). Is it slower than GT? Yes! Is it having a half of cilnders of GT? Yes! But... it's still Mustang that gives you chills everytime you enter the car and turn the engine on. ;) Love it for every highs ans lows!

[@cezarbolado]

I own a 2.3 hpp manual and I can assure that this car leaves no frustration...I can match 5.0's all day on drags, sometimes I win (if they are manuals as me), most of the times I lose, but it's always close and not embarrassing at all, quite the opposite BTW, ppl get impressed how powerful this mustang can be...you won't get the heavenly sound of the v8, that's true. But if u can live with that, the HPP is a perfect daily drive in my opinion. On top of that, I can endure a whole week before hitting the gas station, and I like to push it on straight lines and dragging on the lights (when it's safe, lol)...anyways, it's not a fight, it's more like choosing whats the best fit for you buck and need! They're both amazing cars and deserve respect for what the brand mustang represents. Peace yall!!

[@SWEETVENOM100]

Hey how is the shifter feel? I’m also thinking of a m/t but I seem a review and the guy said the shifter sucked 😫 Also they say it’s slow and not that fast

[@cezarbolado]

@@SWEETVENOM100 can't say it's the best in the world...but it's far from bad. If you like dragging and quick starts you probably will want to work on a better one, but if it's a daily drive and you just want to put some miles on it every once in awhile, than the hpp m/t is ready for you.

[@cezarbolado]

@@SWEETVENOM100 about the speed, don't know you are talking about the transmission response or the car...but I can tell you none of them is slow... just a friendly reminder we are talking about a 315-340 HP's machine...don't expect a Shelby GT performance, but you definitely won't miss the power when you hit the highway.

[@SWEETVENOM100]

@@cezarbolado I meant I’ve seen online folks say that this car is slow. About the shifter, how does it feel? Is it nice and crips? Fun to row thru the gears?

[@SWEETVENOM100]

@@cezarbolado what cars can it pull on? I want something a lot quicker than what I have, which is a ‘22 Si I used to own a FBO+hybrid turbo FiST and just miss having the power to pull

[@JacesOwnWorld]

Now this guy is the type of drivers that we all need to be following on KZbin. None of these Matt Farrah, TJ Hunt, or Stradman guys. Why? Because this guy can actually DRIVE REALLY WELL!

[@chrislowe486]

This dude can drive for sure

[@Bones12x2]

Amen... Intelligent useful commentary backed up with driving skill. I cant stand all the youtubers that dont bring anything of actual value to the video. We jist nees Top Gear to let Chris Harris go back to his old show.

[@joshuamoore3846]

This has to be the stupidest comment I've seen on here

[@lancegrant]

TJ hunt cant drive????? 😂😂

[@tomasmedina7989]

Yes, yes I will subscribe.... that is what I will do...

[@ethanrice1102]

i just got my 2022 ecoboost high performance with handling package in a ten speed automatic. I absolutely love it. is all the car ill need for autocross, easier to push on a street without causing a scene, and i saved the extra 10k to get a similar trim on a v8.

[@ResonantFreq528]

I just got my 2021 Ecoboost in December. It has the exact colors as the GT in the video. It such a fun car! I love how the car handles.

[@randellgribben9772]

more of the 4 cly sits behind the front centre ' axle ' line.. better handling

[@hwirtwirt4500]

The 2.3 liter HP engine is impressive but the V8 is too good to pass up, it loves revving to red line and sounds great while doing it.

[@laurahunt5146]

the 2.3 in the mustang is hardly a high performance compared to the 2.3 in the mk3 rs. mustang 300hp and 400nm of torque mk3 rs of the fpm 375 which most are is 378hp and 500nm of torque and in a car so capable as the rs platform its a night and day difference. that is also shown in the times of when the cars - mustang v8 and focus rs did the nurburgring mustang v8 8min7 seconds the mk3 did it a second and a half faster. in standard trim 345hp and 470nm of torque its great the sound of the v8 but its not that good and knowing the potential of how both cars can be modified the rs still comes out on to as a track focused car.

[@bobdolespen]

@@laurahunt5146 The Ford Focus RS is notoriously unreliable and likes to blow head gaskets. It's 2.3L engine is overstressed.

[@fugginrambo]

@@laurahunt5146 The RS is a cool and capable car on paper. The motor and brakes just can't take the pounding dished out on a real track.

[@laurahunt5146]

@@fugginrambo the motor is completely fine on track the only issues ever seen is lspi which on track is irrelevant and the incorrect head gasket issue also irrelevant .

[@rich7447]

The Coyote engine weighs less than 50 lbs more (closer to 30) than the 2.3 turbo and makes a lot more power (460 hp/420 lb ft) from the factory. It also has a lot more performance potential than the 4 cyl. Really no compelling reason to go with the 2.3L. Ford doesn't make the Focus anymore and that's not a bad thing. Mustang v8 time on the ring is faster than the Focus RS too (7:58 compared to 8:06). The v8 will also still be working long after the 2.3 is worn out.

[@fordguy3032]

I was o n the fence between the 2.3HP and the 5.0. I wound up ordering a 2021 GT/CS with 5.0 Happy I did. Nothing like the sound and feel of the 5.0 V8.

[@fordguy3032]

BTW...mine has the hated MT82 six speed and I love it! :)

[@fidelis3123]

I got the GT/CS as well in race red and I’m loving it. Mine is the 10 speed auto.

[@fordguy3032]

@@fidelis3123 I was trying to find an inconspicuous color! :) Wanted the rapid red but felt it would attract too much unwanted attention :)

[@REDVETTExxx]

Always get the V8 and you will never be disappointed….. down the road… supercharge it for 700 ponies and STILL reliable…. Keep adding boost and mods to a 4 banger…. Reliably drops. Ask me how i know😂😂😂😅🙄🙄

[@N4CR]

@@fordguy3032 T56 mag XL swap it when it dies, don't pay to rebuild the POS, cost is very similar.

[@5point0h67]

The 2.3l high performance eco looks very fun to drive

[@MRAMX390]

It is, I bought one a couple of weeks ago and so far I love it. I traded a 2021 California Special because I needed better mileage driving to and from work, a 70 mile daily commute.

[@5point0h67]

@@MRAMX390 I feel that. I hate how much money I spend on gas. These cars are gas hogs

[@MRAMX390]

@@5point0h67We pay the price for looking good and fun driving but would we rather be in an econbox turd ? Nope !

[@Kevin93til]

There is no comparison between the V8 and the Ecoboost. But I drive a mildly tuned Ecoboost, it's reasonable and fun when I need it to be. It's been said, but the concept of it being more like an s13 descendant does it more justice than comparing to V8 cars. I would love a V8 car, but as a middle class car guy, the Ecoboost just makes a lot of sense on multiple levels.

[@jimmyjames8736]

Nice driving while giving good commentary. Great audio of cars during hot lap. I'm an old guy in USA and a long time Mustang fan. Kinda surprised I got such a great comparison review on them all the way from Australia. Happy to subscribe and check out more of your content.

[@nickmudd]

I'd buy both if I could. I currently have a 2016 ecoboost mustang. I love that its peppy and not as expensive. Feels like a luxury gokart with heated seats lol

[@ermagerdmuffins]

Exactly. I bought a 2016 Ecoboost last year. It’s the perfect mix of muscle and luxury for me.

[@eyecontrol4900]

@@ermagerdmuffins gets unfairly hated on, because its not a v8. 300hp, RWD, offered in manual, better fuel economy, i dont get why its so bashed in the car communities online

[@ermagerdmuffins]

@@eyecontrol4900 Because you can’t hear it before you see it. That holds no appeal for me. The guy who lives across from me has a V8, and it’s really annoying when he leaves or arrives. I also have a 2008 Mazdaspeed3. Again, pep without the noise.😁

[@borieseng7534]

​@Erica Lelle went from a 2014 v6 to a 2020 ecoboost just to hear turbo noises lol also there are GTs everywhere I look

[@borieseng7534]

​@Erica Lelle went from a 2014 v6 to a 2020 ecoboost just to hear turbo noises lol also there are GTs everywhere I look

[@kofford]

That's a pretty decent time from both of them. Would be interested to see how the Mach 1 goes round in comparison with all it's track focused upgrades

[@Texas_C8]

I Dont really like the way the Mach 1 sounds I feel a regular mustang GT 2018-22 with after market catback Sounds Much Better !!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)

[@cmdrdredd]

@@Texas_C8 as if you can’t put an exhaust on the Mach1 it is literally the same engine and exhaust as a GT.

[@shadowdraxx]

faster than a m4 comp around Laguna according to car and driver

[@Mackle1]

@@cmdrdredd 🤣🤣🤣

[@eyecontrol4900]

check out the comparison they did on the Carexpert channel.

[@sonydominates]

Great review and comparison. I own a 2016 Mustang GT in the States that I bought used, and it already had an intoxicating Roush exhaust on it, which sold me. With the right wheels and suspension setup, it holds its own in the corners pretty well too!! Definitely hard to beat for the price.

[@KevGoesRiding]

That V8 is sweet, I would take that over a supra any day for the same level of track performance, and I say this as a lexus owner! Nice review!

[@davidnguyen9409]

The Mustang is close, but isn't quite as good as a Supra around a track. Minus points for the terrible interior but the sound is undeniably better.

[@brandonUwanawich954]

@TJ Pass a Supra is a z4 with a Toyota badge bro

[@caboose3475]

@TJ Pass It definitely doesn’t lol

[@StefBelgium]

@@davidnguyen9409 Throttle House did a hot lap faster by one second with a Mustang GT PP2 vs a BMW M2 competition...just saying.

[@davidnguyen9409]

@@StefBelgium Carexpert drove both the Mustang and Supra (250kw version) around Queensland Raceway, with the Supra coming out on top. I'd rather follow the results of a proper racing driver than some... KZbin amateur driver.

[@OEMPlus]

i have a GT and sometimes i still wish i would've got a HPP. they're super cool.

[@michaelreitz6838]

I've owned multiple Mustangs. Everything including a 2020 EcoBoost HPP, a V6, and 5.0 so I know a little about all the engine options. Have you ever heard of the Lightning Lap at Virginia International Raceway where all the manufacturers do lap times to compare them to other cars? Well the 2020 EcoBoost HPP has a faster lap time than the Mustang GT 5.0.

[@danielhultenius5506]

You buy the Eco only if you cant afford the V8

[@jjukjkjiok7782]

yes, both were around 5 sec over the 3 min mark but the GT didn't get a fair shake (it was the first build 2015, the 2018 GT would be much closer to the supra time of the 3 min mark)

[@walk4348]

It's amazing that the Ecoboost is only 1 to 1.5 seconds off cars far more powerful and expensive. Especially when you're talking about an RTR Mustang and RCF Track Edition. With a few boltons and some suspension mods. You could easily close that gap some if not erase it.

[@ryanpetree6475]

Its really just the tires. A good set of tires would make all the difference on a tight track like that. Any normal sized track though the extra power on the GT would really show the legs.

[@the_algorithm]

@@ryanpetree6475 That's what I was saying to myself the entire video. Tires... on the same tires... the 2.3 may beat the V8 in track time... But it's not a mustang unless it has a V8...

[@N4CR]

Lexus is a luxury barge with a chassis from 2007 (I have the GS460, where it came from, lots of suspension still swaps over xD), as much as it tries to be not a luxury sports barge, it's in a different bracket to a 2 door stang..

[@nielsdebakker3283]

@@the_algorithm The original mustang had a straight six...

[@davidkendall6801]

I have a 2011 GT 5.0. Wonderful car to drive. Acceleration strong at all speeds. I never drive in track conditions. V8 resale will be better. One second difference per lap really adds up.

[@macunion1225]

sorry almost forgot to say 3 cheers for the driver , he was pretty damn good on a technical track and it shows real talent to talk while driving like that

[@rolexr]

Sorry but....team V8 - got one. If I want to drive a 4-cylinder Turbo I would buy a hot hatch!!! And why the V8?.....simply press the engine start button !!!

[@MN12BIRD]

The 2.3 EB is great but I'd want the V8 with a manual just for the sound!

[@wade998]

I had a '19 GT and don't think they sound good at all. I ended up trading in the '19 for a GT350R. The Coyote needs headers to make the flathead firing order sound better.

[@visionaryconsulting1194]

@@wade998 you need an exhaust. The 5.0 with the active exhaust sounds amazing

[@waggaclint]

Great video👌👌so good see a Aussie Car Journo actually having fun in car instead of yapping on about the interior and Apple car play etc for 30mins

[@Gtrjerry73]

I'm surprised the weight difference isn't bigger... I would never limit myself like that. For another 12-15k you could put a big supercharger on the v8 and be running low 9's high 8's with some drag slicks... the turbo would need an engine rebuild for that

[@N4CR]

Yes, people have this misconception that modern V8s are heavy pig iron lumps like old.. My LS3 is lower CoG and very similar weight to the F20C it replaces, makes many times the torque, double the power, lasts longer with bores not going out of round.. costs less.. easier to work on, is more efficient LOL Oh yeah and +30kg for that benefit (almost all in trans), retains 50:50, there is no downside.

[@FunkyBananaBear]

And that's just the initial price! The yearly costs of maintenance, insurance, and gas for the Gt are $thousands more a year. Not for me. I'd rather have a still very very fun turbo 4cylinder with beautiful mustang body style, and use that saved money for vacations, amazing dinners, and gifting to friends and family :)

[@JacobHall1601]

Have a Kon Blue GT, just brilliant fun, looks amazing, not the best performer, but for the money you can’t find a car with a more amazing and characterful engine and with that much personality all around

[@jasonlommen4769]

My first time to this channel. Very informative, you know your stuff. Loved the video production. Great angles and views with the cameras. The over the hood view was bad ass. Keep it up. New sub!

[@phoenix3580]

Amazing video bro, great camera work, you said no non sense. I swear your appearance is deceiving. SUBSCRIBED.

[@pumpitdown0x]

"it doesn't really have the power to overcome itse.... OH There we go" @7:30 had me🤣

[@nickkostakis9600]

I just love the V8 Mustang GT of course because I have one thank you for your great show

[@highwayman1218]

When I was on the Mustang forums you'd hear all the time of EB guys trading off quickly for GTs.... Never heard of guys with GTs trading in for EBs....

[@CaptnRbrt]

I had an 11 5.0 and loved it, kept it almost 10 years, no issues except recalls. Just got the 2.3L HPP with handling package, in large part due to this video and a few others.

[@Dynoids]

This is about to be me soon. Although, after owning the EB for 8 years. Genuinly don't have too much bad to say about it other than the GT is more of everything. I will miss the theatrics of a turbocharged car though, and the MPG and maintenance costs of the smaller motor.

[@alfrede.neuman8611]

Haters going to hate, but its tough to match the bang for the buck performance of a Mustang GT with the PP2 option. Faster around the track than many and faster in a straight line than most...and a limitless aftermarket for guys that just love to blow money on their car. lol

[@chrishunter9784]

Give me the 2.3. I enjoy engineering. And it's not as embarrassing to say I have a 2.3 turbo as it is to say I got the V8 and the 2.3 is still on my ass.

[@natethegreatog]

Love those taillights! Wish they came like that in the U.S.!

[@hotballer02]

They do its on a limited package they came out with and it cost more then just getting aftermarket ones

[@Eternalsfan]

@@hotballer02 I saw a pair that look stock. But when turning on the blinkers, the lights change to amber. It’s so unique.

[@binxbolling]

Some countries have different rules for taillight colors.

[@ironreed2654]

I like the off center front badge and smaller rear badge on the Ecoboost...has nothing to do with owning a 2018 pp1.

[@JZs550]

i just recently bought a 2022 ecoboost manual and this is the most fun ive ever had in a car.

[@formulasaltythunder4806]

2020 gt convertible. Black on black. Gets a ton of attention wherever I go. Love this car.

[@nicolubbe3419]

Thanks for the the good report On thing short how will the lap times be for the same rubber

[@LuisSanchez-vu6uv]

What a driver!👏 he was literally talking throughout the vid and driving at the same time nice!

[@SizzlingStu]

Getting excited for my 5.0 GT, its due to turn up (UK) mid April and ordered last August. I have MagneRide and the best bit, it's a manual. I have been told its one of the last Mustang manuals to come into the EU/UK due to a change in noise legislation Ford have dropped the option. I've had the RS and ST with the 2.3 Turbo and its a lovely engine. However I wanted a naturally aspirated V8 with manual before they these lovely engines get legislated out of the EU/UK and looks like I left it to the last minute to order. I'm going to be finding any reason to go on a long drive over the summer.

[@pauliewalnuts240]

I imagine the 5.0s arnt too common in the uk or even the mustang in general. Should hold its value well as v8s become less common, might even go up in price. Congrats and enjoy the car.

[@N4CR]

save up a few grand if you intend to keep it for long time, because the magnetic ride shocks for all cars are damn expensive.

[@glenwaldrop8166]

It's not an Australia thing. You should have been on the US Mustang forums when they announced the Eco-boost line. I personally don't really want one but I also can respect the different options, a powerful 4 cylinder in a Mustang would have completely different manners on the track.

[@carlosvaldivia566]

You can really tell how much more he was smiling when driving the V8 compared to the eco boost.

[@nickkostakis9600]

Great show mate I must say and a BRILLIANT drive thank you

[@troy9er]

My 1st car was a 1964.5 Mustang that my Grandma bought new in 64.5. What a lucky kid I was. Miss that car. My dad sold it to a friend of my uncle who restores Mustangs! At least I know it went to a good home.

[@lucasbarton7903]

Good balanced review. I think at the end of the day the GT is the most desirable option, especially on the track. As a daily driver though the 2.3 might be more justifiable (albeit still a compromise) especially as the GT is such a revy engine whereby you can break the speed limit in 2nd gear (where the fun is). One would be tempted to shorten the diff in this case to enjoy more high revs at road speed. The useable low end torque on the 2.3 will be utilised on road. It's just such a pity they haven't nailed the noise of the 4 pot, maybe there's some good aftermarket exhausts around or opportunity to refine next ford upgrade as the did with the V8 in last update. Ideally the old 5 cylinder RS motor would have been awesome as the 5 cylinder sound is so unique and would of absolutely set it apart from everything else. I suppose that motor was retired in the focus for good reason ( prob emissions). Anyway great review would be awesome to have a "daily driver" comparison review to see if the gap between lessens, Cheers.

[@SamSabin]

mbrp race catback or tomei titanium totally fixes the soundtrack of the ecoboost i have tried both and stuck to the mbrp simply for the cost

[@GodFirst090]

@@SamSabin I was just about to comment this lol. I have the MBRP Race and it makes a world of difference. Adds a deep rumble to it and gets better with time.

[@SamSabin]

@@GodFirst090 100% I wished this came on the car from factory the race version quickly let's you know when you are an eco and when you are in boost no need to look at the gauges 🤣🤣🤣

[@matthewdiaz6478]

This dude casually doing a rundown while rippin' on the track... turning with 1 hand and shit.

[@diyflamethrowers4465]

I have a 2016 A6 Ecoboost and my best friend has a 2019 A10 GT. He bought his first, and it was me riding shotgun that made me miss my 95 Trans Am. I found my car, and picked it up with my last car being a 2010 Speed3. For me, the EB is like all of what I liked about my old Trans Am and Speed3 molded into one.

[@philroy818]

Gota love that V8 sound track, I know I love that in my V8 convertible mustang it's just a fun and practical car. One comment I see is the fuel consumption, I've been pleasantly surprised certainly better than the mighty falcon, I've done the Sydney - Melbourne run multiple times averages 8.1L/100 which ain't that bad. Brought mine in 2020, have already done 54,000 km so it's well used and well loved!!

[@boygonewhoopdataZZ]

Mustang Turbo PP2 shows the prowess of a modern performance fire, Camaro Turbo 1LE shows the performance of the chassis.

[@Fr33man1988]

I’m shocked that the Mustang GT beat the Audi RS5. The RS5 is a beast!

[@Texas_C8]

Wow I didnt know that fact !!! Amazing ;) Love my 2018 mustang GT More !!!

[@macunion1225]

yeah me to , that RS5 is triple the mustang price in NZ

[@StandingUpForBetter]

Great driving! All around the chassis on this gen Mustang is very impressive. The V8 is just amazing but I live in Southern California where our self-serving politicians and our President have really hiked up the price of gas. The irony is that we have some really fantastic driving roads over here. Because of that, for me and my money it would be the 2.3 High Performance Package with the Handling Package with a 6-speed manual. I think the 6-speed manual really suits the character of this engine and the money I save in gas means I can drive more. Also, I don't know if there is a difference between the exhaust between the 2.3 High Performance here in the States and in Australia, but the 2.3 HP over here actually sounds pretty good, and it does have crackles and pops. I am impressed so much with this car I am trying to add it to the collection. Thanks, and keep up the great work.

[@arno7303]

The thing about the ecoboost is, not 1 will stay unfettered with. You buy a COBB and JUST with the stage 1 with no other mods and the car is transformed. You do intercooler with just a K&N panel filter with an E30tune which is cheap as chips and the thing is near on 380hp and still much lighter. it really does put the engine part back above the Focus RS position and give the car that bit of character. WHich imo is not as much a charmer as the GT on the streets but something that you will enjoy more on track and on a windy mountain road. mid gear pull on a decent E30 tune will pin you back hard. very hard.

[@skategeezer1810]

That car is a base one. It does not have the handling package with magna ride. You can tell by the rims. The handling package has the performance pack 2 front rims.

[@josephlarmor550]

I bought a new Mustang 2.3 18:20 Ecoboost 10-speed auto convertible in 2019, after renting one for a two week touring holiday with my wife in New England. Every morning we would open up the roof, put on our Ray-Bans, get Steely Dan on the stereo and aim for the next town along the coast. Taking in the scenery with my elbow on the door and the aircon chilling the seat was such a cool way to travel, and with a 55mph speed limit there was no point in rushing, not that I wanted to. When I came home, I made straight for my local Ford Dealer, and I’ve never regretted it. So do these track comparisons mean anything to me? Do I need to shave a second off my quarter-mile? Would there have been any point in paying extra for Magnaride? Sorry, no. If you want the convertible, and like me you will be driving in the real world, the Ecoboost is all the car you need. IMHO, of course!

[@brentgath4447]

Great, honest reviews. Thank you!

[@driver46]

Great review, enjoyed every minute of it.

[@FLAVOURBMX]

congrats on 20k guys

[@michaelc.6306]

The Answer should be... a V6 Ecoboost 3.5L Turbo. Period

[@pimpovic2]

No, V8 Turbo.

[@Willster7471]

Right lol. My Taurus SHO has the Twin turbo 3.5 V6 and it is a beast of a sedan. If that engine was in a mustang I bet it would outperform the GT model

[@pleasestfu4801]

I have an HPP right now, but if the motor blows (after warranty of course), I want to swap a Raptor 3.5HO into it.

[@3.7-m1m]

3.7 duratec

[@rubenramos6797]

@@pimpovic2if you go that route give it a supercharger or at least twin turbo it…

[@patmason7276]

If your paying the insurance best to have the V8. Love the sound.✌️

[@procrastinatingperfectioni278]

These comparisons/arguments always seem strange to me. If the larger capacity engine powered car, happens to be a V8, also had forced induction there would be no contest.

[@vasopel]

one word: price , you see....obviously the V8 is the better model, but it costs more, these "comparisons/arguments" exist because people want to buy a Mustang and want to know if the cheaper option is good enough.

[@siraff4461]

Interesting how your driving sytle changes between them. I presume mostly because of engine characteristics and gear ratios. Not a knock - just an observation. I think it would also be interesting to see how they go around somewhere a bit bigger where you can open them up a bit. I know that plays even more into the GT's hands but its not really about which is faster because we just saw that. More to see how each behaves as the speeds increase.

[@sammccarthy6835]

I4 is better in corners because of how fuckin heavy the front end of the V8 is

[@siraff4461]

@@sammccarthy6835 The GT is 52.8/47.2 front/rear. The I4 is 52/48 front/rear. There is only 65kg difference total and the GT uses larger rear wheels/tyres along with a few other differences. Its equivalent of adding 35kg to the front and 30kg to the rear. If you can tell the difference in weight balance from that on a 1700kg+ car you're better than most. You could literally make the same difference in front/rear balance by adjusting your seat further forward or rearward.

[@paulsz6194]

Isn't the 2.3L Turbo ecoboost engine the same engine used in the Mazda 6 MPS (or Mazda speed for the US market)?

[@SizzlingStu]

No

[@pleasestfu4801]

The HPP has a different block than a standard Ecoboost. HPP uses the block from the Focus RS.

[@Chewygsxr]

Hey Mate, here in America we use Horse Power and Torque, it would be nice if you told us in US. Cool video, I have 14 turned Fiesta ST with stickie Michelin Pilot Sport tires, my ST would on there donkey on that tight track. The Fiesta Flash.

[@similaritiesendhere]

It's sad and/or just that the mentality of cars like the Mustang needing V8's will lead to these cars not being the fastest and eventually not existing at all.

[@DustinTavo]

That looks so funn. Not a blue fan but i’d consider this it looks so good.

[@Blue-BRZ]

Not sure how the Capri was like. But imagine Ford makes a sport coupe like 86 and put the eco boost engine in it, that would be super fun.

[@jonathanisenhour7923]

Focus RS had it, true it's a hatchback, but it wouldn't make much of a difference compared to a coupe.

[@jreyes2464]

@@jonathanisenhour7923 yeah but the 86 is rwd

[@Blue-BRZ]

@@jonathanisenhour7923 we have enough hot hatches in the market. Need more compact rwd

[@joelwilliams6477]

Very interesting review. Is the colour of the GT "carbonised grey". Looks good! I've been thinking about buying the GT and this review really helps.

[@ResonantFreq528]

I have a 2021 Ecoboost I picked the exact same colors, and love it!

[@mtnmann72]

Vanilla Ice wasn’t rollin’ in a 4 cylinder, nor would I.

[@or2kr]

Would've been interesting to see how much better the 2.3 HP would do on the new rubber, swapping the rims of the V8 to it might not be something you'd want to do with a road test but should've been fine on the race track. But considering that the V8 didn't really have severe traction issues, the 2.3 still would've been slower. I'd just like to know by how much :P

[@druscanam]

That's what I was thinking, you can hear the tyres complaining the whole time on during the lap on the 2.3 whilst on the GT not only the traction seems better but the turn in and lateral grip too. Don't even think a rim swap is necessary, just a set of PS4 S tyres or equivalent like some Goodyear Eagle F1 Supersport or the newly realised Bridgstone Potenza Sports (RE001 replacements)

[@jonathankhatskelevich7804]

Had the gt, would pick it over Hp eco boost every time. But I do see the benefits and I sell the appeal. It’s just not for me. I currently have a Wb scat. Will always be a v8 man

[@davidvaughn7778]

I drove a couple of Challengers one was older. It felt ok to me, it just felt heavy. I'm more of a Ford guy these days and I just felt more at home in a Mustang. I ended up getting a 2009 GT over a 2013, mainly because the 2013 was an auto. I enjoyed the 2009 music alot better as well. The 4.6 just sounds better to me than the Coyote. I ended up not really getting to enjoy it much and we "needed" a truck so it got traded in for a 2010 f150 Supercab. I know I'm sticking to older cars/trucks but my vehicle budget is half what my wife's is. She has a 2018 Grand Cherokee with the V6 and it is every bit as fast as that 2009 GT.

[@josepandal4660]

What a good review sr , impressive musthang all day all night

[@Ds650addicts]

Around the corner the ecoboost has it all day but when they reach a straightaway that 2.3 is done for

[@cerogravity8653]

Other than the gas mileage their is really no reason to pay 50k for a 4 cylinder when you can get a baseline GT for a little less, idk maybe if your getting it as a first car then go with the 4 cylinder

[@drewdanger]

Dude this guy can DRIVE!!!

[@waynesanders8948]

I'm team save the manuals!

[@ericmichel3857]

Looks like a really fun go cart track.

[@ST_DCT]

The HPP is no slouch, half the cylinders and a hair over 2 seconds slower than it's big brother is splitting hairs, yes there's the sound, but I'll take the lower insurance and cost of ownership for nearly the same experience...I had a Shelby GT350 owner stop me at a light to tell me how nice my car was, shocked me for sure...lol

[@pleasestfu4801]

Yeah, I've gotten a lot of compliments on my HPP (handling pack, black on black, possibly illegal tint lol). Nobody in real life actually cares that it's a 2.3 and not a 5.0... May be just because how good the car looks (especially having quad tip exhaust and the rear diffuser), the HPP rear looks great compared to a standard Ecoboost.

[@drivepro1]

Man the tyre squeel from the Pirellis is enough to make the decision of which car to take!

[@vitora.7895]

The 5.0 is unthinkable here in Portugal(100k vs Eco 50k...taxes), but finally you can own a Mustang here, beginning to save for one...

[@e.a.p3174]

If it’s a toy buy the V8, if it’s your daily driver buy the 4 cylinder, the V8 is very thirsty and the insurance is more expensive.

[@iszy2394]

I want both of those cars.... and a Shelby.

[@DownUnder43]

Far out these Turbo Charged Mustangs are quick as hell when compared to the V8. Looking at the V8 numbers you would think the performance would be heaps better. But when we see Mercedes making a 4 Cylinder with 425 HP makes you think technology has advanced a lot.

[@noneed4me2n7]

I’m a week away from getting one and while I would love to get say a GT500, gas in SoCal is so bad it’s either an ecoboost or a Toyota. I have a classic that has the V8 and even once it’s done being restored I won’t daily driver it. Don’t have those worries so much with a new 4 cylinder pony and it’s helluva lot easier to insure than the 69. I’m aiming to get it in white to match the nice new Oxford White I had put on the 69.

[@anhiirr]

idk given the weight difference...and that its a shared platform...ive always wondered what a "racing" or custom built 2.3 EB mustang could perform like with different struts/height/springs than a standard V8 designed engine bay. As well as a multi point strut brace to add some weight to keep the front/steering/grip planted. Since the 2.3 eco isnt really the breadwinner of the mustang its not like ford would ever invest into making something like this into an actual adaptation. But in reality those changes completely change the handling/cornering characteristics of the same car/unibody/chassis. Just to really get a more "build" centered around the 2.3 and its potential vs the v8/gt design/original design. Unfortunate the history with their MT transmission/reliability

[@N4CR]

NA ALL DAY. Traction improvement is due to laggy crappy turbo power curves, its easier to traction control an NA V8 also power pulses are 2x more per revolution = more spread out = less tyre stress/peak load.

[@harlanbassham6853]

Nitto 555 grip good on my 2019 Ford Mustang GT over the Michelins..less slip in second gear with 10 speed 10R80 automatic

[@tehscope9422]

It would be nice if you did a horse power and foot pound torque conversation I didn't understand your power numbers .

[@eyecontrol4900]

lmao, not everyone uses the imperial system, bro

[@2loco]

Yeah I'm team turbo V8. Hellion Turbo to be precise.

[@brandonUwanawich954]

Hellions trash you either procharged it or whipple it

[@Marc-nc9yv]

Its not about whats on the back its how it sounds, period

[@Black-vw8xn]

Keep this guy away from my tires.... someone who knows how to drive is able to go fast while saving their equipment

[@carlhansen9512]

The gratuitous drifting is a requirement for KZbin videos, no matter how annoying some of us find them. No surprise he wasn't "steering with the throttle" when it was time to go fast.

[@N9197U]

@@carlhansen9512 I completely agree with you.

[@Three_Days_Of_Solitude]

I have a 2015 GT 50th edition. Tried out the eco but I didn’t like the sound, if I wanted a 4 cylinder sound car I’d go for some jdm

[@dulius6922]

Great video guys

[@barraturbolife]

Nice guy but no mention of what type of differential types or ratios between the two. Also they never staggered the rims, just wider tyres on the rear. Same rim different tyres

[@rogerrussell9544]

Ford to do something, sales were way down, enthusiasts and consumers were rejecting the 4 cyl.

[@atillab5482]

I’ve owned both cars. A 2017 6MT Ecoboost and a 2021 6MT GT. The Ecoboost is good but the GT is more then twice the car and the torque is intoxicating.

[@davisflyer]

Both cars gave a good showing. V8 obviously sounds better. Also noticed that the Michelin tires were much quieter than the Pirelli's, which screamed in torture the entire circuit. Had the GT had the magnetic dampers, it might have even beat that Supra.

[@MrStingraybernard]

Would of performed better if the steering wheel was on the other side 😂

[@newbwheeler9777]

The tires alone are worth seconds in lap time. Pirelli’s are trash the PS4 are twice the tire and you can hear the difference alone.

[@MrTL3wis]

I'm full team turbo, but pushing more boost. Scott does a great job driving. Good vid. Since you were running for several laps before your big lap, the intercooler would have been smoking hot and you'd be making nothing for power.

[@paw45]

A set of summer tires drastically improves the grip and handling of these cars.

[@pmeledforever680]

Great review thanks.