Who comes out on top? 4-way track battle at Thruxton ft. Clio RS 172, 306 GTi6, MG ZS180

[@feedingfrenzy123]

Watching this really reminds me of the goodwood revival races. Cars with not a lot of power being driven at the limit with mainly only mechanical grip. Way more entertaining than F1!

[@1973miniclubman]

Exactly what racing should be about. Close contact using a car at its full potential flat out. 👌🏻👌🏻 the mini/mustangs at good wood

[@SparrowNoblePoland]

I'm coming to conclusion the sole purpose Rover/MG failed, was that they weren't RWD... These cars handled so nicely they could be Jesuses on wheels if only they had rear wheel drive and limited slip diffs.

[@nonoaidnono]

@@SparrowNoblePoland I’ve got a zs and I modify it, I’m 22 at the moment. If I manage to learn about cars as much as I want to, I will build a rwd zs

[@SparrowNoblePoland]

@@nonoaidnono It might not handle as well though... Many things would come into effect, altering how suspension works. And most likely you would need to build from scratch and tune an entirely new rear suspension, just make RWD system

[@dahotrod1533]

@@nonoaidnono will kinda ruin the point of the zs though.

[@rolo6918]

The MG's look so aggressive on track and clio looked more of a handful than normal. Good work lads.

[@Spac8]

I know I'm a ZS 180 owner, and I am biased, but holy hell. That thing looks so freaking planted. Swear there is a bit of rear wheel steering going on at times after watching the rear end moving about on the exit of corners. I've had to replace her as a daily, but rewatching these videos has all but convinced me to keep her on as a "toy" rather than selling her. Thank you guys so much for these vids and this channel. It's honestly so nice to see mates all having fun in the name of being a petrolhead, but it's really fascinating to compare the behaviour of different cars, tracks, chassis and drivers. Love it. ♥️

[@MikiLeris]

Wonderful to see a group of friends having a good time with their passion. Good country in which they live. Congratulations and thanks for sharing.

[@marknelson5929]

Mmm that looks like a lotta fun, just bought an immaculate 2004 face lifted 180 ZS with 54,000 miles on it. It handles pretty damn well.

[@Jake.73]

Your videos made me go out and buy a Clio F1 R27 and I'm absolutely loving it! Cheers from Australia!

[@davemorris6747]

I had an MG ZS180 in trophy blue. One of the best cars I have ever owned. Wish I’d never sold it. It was predictable handling seen here that I loved. Did a few track days at castle Combe.

[@briangriffith3985]

The longer wheel based cars more stable in the highspeed stuff. Great driving from all as usual.

[@michaelokeeffe490]

I freeking love the way you guys are on the absolute limit at every possible moment, my c2 is almost ready for the track (fresh engine build) I’d love to have a session on track with you lot

[@jonclark25]

Love this circuit👌 it's great seeing who's got the balls to go through Church on the limit😅

[@adrianwelgemoed9562]

I see matt hasnt learnt yet from losing two of his forward gears🤣

[@Syncopia]

Full send, never lift

[@davemellor4697]

MGZS- ZR SO SO Underated cars i race a ZR160 and its just a delight to drive!!!

[@H22Freak]

Alright lads! I was in the black S8 out with the 330i on the same track day as you, good meeting you lot! See you again soon!

[@superbrit3845]

This is like footage from the BTCC, awesome 👍👍 Gti-6 looks the best handling car here but it’s definitely lacking in power though.

[@aczech12]

It has rollcage increasing stiffness, doesn't have passenger balast like Clio on this video, and mg isn't fully stripped, part of the reason.

[@duncandehulst2016]

I see these "so fancy" leather brown racing seats :D

[@cozifpv2069]

It's like watching the other cars race when you win in grand turismo

[@robertdblack7179]

Watching this makes me want to get another ZS. Awesome job guy's 👏👍

[@PinkGuy120]

Love to see these MGs getting some love!

[@webdesignengineeringservic6515]

My God, its like watching real life wacky racers :) great driving and skill too, I've only driven Thruxton once and my laps were much less dramatic (bar drifting off through church and needing a change of undies after).

[@Th0mi-RS]

Every single time i watch your videos I cant stop smiling

[@acarguy3773]

Haven't watched it yet but I know it's going to be awesome!

[@nonoaidnono]

I need to get my zs on track, vvc swapped and remap, raised Rev limiter, eibach xpower springs, and other smaller mods

[@dazturner1576]

Our worst fears, the MG's have finally taken over. The hot hatch french baguettes need a tight n twisty track to save humanity.

[@TeamZSsx]

After nuclear Armageddon the cockroaches will take over, The ZS180's are the cockroaches of the track day scene. Enjoy 😂👍

[@RS7John]

Don't worry the Honda ZS 180 values are rising quite fast so people won't want to shell out for them especially when they need VIS Motors and cam belts 🤣

[@dawoud8013]

​@@RS7John Sorry i'm french, so... difficult to understand ironic sentences.... can you say me more please ? lol

[@skylined5534]

@@RS7John Honda?! 😂 other than being loosely based on a 90s Civic at that point they're not very Honda set up wise. Vis motors can be bypassed cheaply and doing your own cam belt on the kv6 takes time but is a piece of piss.

[@RS7John]

@@skylined5534 yeah you can buy possum so you have no torque and name me another mg rover car with front twin wishbone suspension 😅

[@jamocerwin5841]

Beautiful MG’s!

[@adz012345]

The MGs are mighty!!!

[@jonboyy1327]

As always. Absolutely Bonkers 💀

[@RBRacing55]

The eyes on Will at the end, he's scared stiff 😂😂

[@sherpafan033]

those zs180s are properly quick!

[@Cydro12]

awesome as always guys!! love the rear view camera in the corners to see how the car behind behaves on the pavement :D

[@chedhead3278]

Cheers guys, another epically entertaining video. Impressed with how Bens MG was taking the kerb hits.

[@buckleyjteams]

Love the zs 180 miss mine so much

[@vinnyvsx]

I frigging knew it was you guys at the track day. I was driving one of the many red Clio RS200s. Great day out, even the weather was pretty good considering the forecast

[@gearscorners8097]

Low budget Touring Car Championship right here😁🤟🏾

[@SuperDougie89]

Was like watching the btcc in the early 90s.

[@roryshine9261]

Brilliant show lads was good seeing all of you at it 😂😂😂 them mg's are so loose 💪🏻💪🏻

[@michaeljames191]

Grin from ear to ear after watching this keep em coming lads would love to spectate the next one!!?

[@trosviettrosviet6818]

La vidéo qui fait plaisir ✌️

[@yardspeed13]

That was mental love it. Those MG's though... ooofff

[@quicknickdriver8510]

What a fast circuit, seems to suit the Rovers. Great vid, editing and all. Love it

[@TwpsynMawr]

Taller gearing suits this track

[@greedycobra1446]

Havnt watched yet but I’m guessing it’s ‘the fearless nutter’ aka Matt ! 😂👍🏻

[@-DC-]

Every upload is a RIOT 💪

[@jurehribar2395]

This just looks like a lot of fun between a couple of friends what more would you whant

[@johnp6636]

Why did I go straight to eBay looking for a mg zs 🤣

[@skylined5534]

Because they're fucking awesome!

[@aczech12]

Sounds great, handles Great, cheap.

[@Filipkalgtv]

Nice battles guys and lovely cars!Greetings from Greece ✌✌

[@Turbopl1988]

F4R Power 💪

[@stevemcilroy9518]

Excellent fun day. That Rover lmao, great driving skills

[@100scans]

Come on the lads!

[@stuartchristie654]

Amazing video….love how you guys push the cars to the limit….

[@davidyip5557]

Epic lads,as usual

[@northerncarpfreaks5081]

I would love to do a track day with you guys I currently drive a seat ibiza cupra 180 would be a cracking match up

[@bobhilger6324]

Hilarious to see you guys having fun out there

[@dawoud8013]

Hello guyz ! again a great video ! thank you ! Well ... The MG ZS180 is better than the Celica 192 for track and riding !? i loved riding with my Hyundai "Coupé", but i need more power ! ^^

[@SHIREDRIFT]

So Rover engines stay together if you thrash the living shit out of them!. Aha! So that's where they went wrong. Sold them to the wrong generation. Epic track battle guys. Love watching you drive them 10/10ths

[@skylined5534]

To be fair the fabled 'hgf' issues were never an issue on anything kv6 after the mk2 Rover 800. Being even more honest outside of badly looked after K16s from the late 1.1 to the 1.8 models they usually held together pretty well.

[@ARDEN440i]

This circuit must absolutely eat tyres

[@StringTheoryBen]

Yes, yes it does.

[@teamgimps]

Brilliant fun and brilliant editing!

[@coreywingrove458]

Great video thanks And not one black flag !!

[@husqvarna2512]

It would be awesome to know the setup of your Cars👌🏼👌🏼

[@jjsalto8274]

Do you guys set the cars up to be that loose? It looks amazing though. Having a blast on track with mates

[@tonk1337]

Awesome as always

[@duddsification]

That mg almost looked rwd 🤣

[@CCOCAS_pic]

So crazy, you guys can do something with low power diesel cars like pugs HDI, seat etc.... I have one 206 S16 HDI 110hp, it's fun car

[@deanodrives4966]

What a track and what a video

[@danasprey4144]

Makes me want to book a day myself 🤟

[@camryt]

I am not really sure if that was adressed, but what happened to Ben's Celica? Was it just replaced or did it go catastrophically wrong, as 2ZZ's usually do? The MG seems mighty

[@StringTheoryBen]

It blew up twice! I didn't want to put another engine in it. Also I was secretly jealous of Martin and Dan's MGs..... I am from Birmingham after all....

[@dawoud8013]

@@StringTheoryBen Oh !!! O_O phase 1 always ?

[@skylined5534]

Fuck me that MG ZS changes direction like a UFO! Awesome driving from you all!

[@azagedon]

Great battle :)

[@RS7John]

Hang on did the MK2 ZS have the air con on 🤣 couldn't see "eco" on the climate control display 🤞

[@martinandtess1629]

😂😂 yep need to keep cool

[@ryanp6138]

When you coming for a blast in some dirty Diesels?

[@mnooooooo]

The ginetta junior In the back like 😮

[@kalheer]

That fukin MG 👏👏

[@Darryl1982]

This video may help me decide my next car...

[@AngelFloyd27]

Simple, fun, fantastic. What a great video guys.

[@JuanMseDlgRs]

The gray car its a scalectric

[@pinderwagen]

Great video. ! The Clio seemed to need a lot of steering lock ?

[@ThaDutchDK1989]

Hé just had less grip than the others. Definently tyre related

[@sp88tips]

9.10 good over take

[@thanasisagalos771]

Guys which new age fwd would be your fav and why ?

[@stevejamin7037]

i will this stickewr : performance french cars

[@rakshasaraja2934]

you are amazing !!!!! i love you ;)

[@lucasvonheiz1310]

Yeeeaaaah c&c new vid!!!!

[@trosviettrosviet6818]

Salut quelles sont les modifications moteur sur la 306 merci ✌️

[@Chris-uh7cw]

Why did that Clio seem to struggle so much in the corners, are the tyres not great?

[@yellowledbutter]

It was the end of the day, tyres were shot

[@fila1445]

Do you have aftermarket baffles in that 306 ? Xu10j4 is quite known to oil starvation

[@littlepeugeot8341]

Idk about him but mine doesnt have any in the oil pan, 270 000km and going, only one scratched rod bearing, but that was my fault(went for a spirited drive and haven't checked the oil...) Haven't noticed power drops in bigger corners, but it drinks oil, cca 1L of 10w50 total racing in 2000-2500km

[@fila1445]

@@littlepeugeot8341 i have the same engine in my 205 and i wanted to go to the track at some point and since ive rebuilded the engine myself im quite terrified of this happening:p

[@littlepeugeot8341]

@@fila1445... I really like throw it round the B roads and some 140kmh bends, haven't noticed anything bad. Got to say, you put a bug in my ear

[@fila1445]

@@littlepeugeot8341 i saw another 205 with this engine just vomit it internals at my local track :p

[@constantijnxenakis5357]

Are you using track tires ?

[@inter7373]

Yeah subscribed

[@sp88tips]

Gti6 sounds the best

[@oscarfox4570]

ZS is one of the most underrated cars. Just don't mention headgaskets.

[@SpitfireFortyFour]

The KV6 doesn't have any headgasket issue. Nor do the MK2 K18s. The whole headgasket thing with Rover is a real joke, particularly if you've owned and EJ Subaru which really does blow the headgasket all the fucking time!

[@oscarfox4570]

@@SpitfireFortyFour Friend of mine had a Mk1 ZS 180, head gasket blew. So there's that.

[@SpitfireFortyFour]

@@oscarfox4570 I'm not saying it can't happen, just that its uncommon. I'm going to guess it was the engines main failure problem the plastic BMW thermostat. They have a habit of crumbling around 100k, most start to slowly leak but a bad failure dumping all the coolant could blow the head if you were unfortunate. On the while the KV6 was a strong engine (bar the early version in the 800 and Freelander which was shit) on the whole it was a more developed engine than the 4 cylinder.

[@oscarfox4570]

@@SpitfireFortyFour He didn't investigate deeply, gasket blew and car was scrapped. The days when they were ten a penny.

[@SpitfireFortyFour]

@@oscarfox4570 Yep. They were basically worthless a few years ago. I wish I'd picked up a nice one back then....

[@rp20832]

British Tossing Cars Championship

[@DeanMackenziebelldmb]

Top vids

[@daniellarge4384]

What’s the spec on the blue mg?

[@daniellarge4384]

The facelift mg180

[@Ahogg1992]

Clio looks a little soft these days

[@senetaireluluenviree]

vous ait complétement tarée Xd funny

[@ClioManFuz]

do the mgs have lsds?

[@StringTheoryBen]

Yup, torsen from 220 turbo

[@TeamZSsx]

@@StringTheoryBen do you have camber adjustment front and rear and if so how much 😜👍

[@StringTheoryBen]

@@TeamZSsx Yup, constantly changing as I'm a serial faffer with my own cars. At Thruxton I think I had -3.2 front and -2.5 rear, 100n front springs, 80n rear, roll centre correction ball joint kit in the front but stock rear. I've since added a Honed developments rear roll centre kit and upped the spring rates, camber is more or less the same but I might be able to reduce it now with the stiffer rates. I need a bit of spare time to re-faff with the setup.

[@TeamZSsx]

I guess the two votes down are baguette fan boys upset because their motors got spanked by Birmingham's finest!

[@ianhill20101]

Top comment lol. Id like to see a zs 120 with a 75 turbo lump a remap and a £100 chinnese 2871r turbo be around 270bhp see all these lot off with decent diff

[@TeamZSsx]

@@ianhill20101 to be fair Camber and combustion philosophy is sub 200 n/a so a ZS120 with 1.9 vvc Scholar engine or a VHPD and we will be talking.. 👍

[@ianhill20101]

@@TeamZSsx good shout fella, yea they rev the tits of they machines got to give it to them, the nurb video in the 306 year or 2 ago was impressive fp.

[@ThaDutchDK1989]

The setup on the Clio And tyres where just shit this time. A Clio 172 drives much better normally

[@samuelgomez3311]

The next time added clio 200 cup and integra too!

[@ИгорьКоптев-х7ш]

😎😎😎😎

[@Strike86]

Bit more oversteer dialled into Ben's MG this time around! Can't believe it's no quicker than the two hatches though, even with V6 power!

[@ianhill20101]

The mg has less power and more weight, the 120 version is better buy and turbo it from a rover 75 or mg6 with a £100 2871r chinnese turbo and a remap they push out 270bhp, see all these lads off.

[@StringTheoryBen]

The cars aren't a million miles off on power to weight ratio, and we do tend to drive like you do in 2 player gran turismo, swapping places here and there! I will be the first to admit the MG was a fair bit quicker at Thruxton so I did have the cheating advantage, but then you do a skid, and all time is lost!

[@StringTheoryBen]

@@ianhill20101 Sounds like a lot of effort to just drive off from your mates.... haha

[@jase_llan]

@@StringTheoryBen my Fiesta should be comfortably quicker than any of the four cars in this video... But not to worry, the pilot means you'd keep up quite happily 😅 Totally agree it's not about having the fastest car, it's about having the biggest laugh out there.

[@ThaDutchDK1989]

Jezus the setup or tyres on the Clio where awful , I think it doesn’t help to that guy driving it is so so aggressive . No the less like the videos

[@miroslavdockal9468]

These old Honda Rovers looks so good in corners.....no understeery tire sqeel, can go with doors forwards.... I know why i drove 5 of these in my life career.....then i switch to Honda, BMW wasnt reliable enough, and rest of the world handle corners like tanks, yo i talk about cars which can my wallet fully funded. Nice video, jump in time for me, i won some races in old Rovers about 2005..... 🤟😉

[@georgekurgansky5986]

The civic wins, what a surprise lol

[@SpitfireFortyFour]

Loosely based on a floorpan co-dveloped by Rover and Honda. Believe me a Rover ZS is a world apart from an MB2 Civic.