Paul Betts giving Leah 7 1/2 litres of water in 90 minutes is why she died. It was the advice to keep hydrated, which was good advice for a hot sweaty rave club, but Leah was at a house party. Police surveillance being stopped the day before the murders stinks, the police stated on day 2 that the media and public suggesting other lines of enquiry was worthless. that stinks..
@westhamunited678 ай бұрын
I remember Tony Tucker from Hollywoods in Romford. After he was murdered I bumped into a bouncer who used to work with Tony. He said he wasn't surprised Tony had been killed, said he was a bully.
@rickharrison6325 Жыл бұрын
Just watched all 3 episodes on the murders!!! Brilliant Dave Mackelvey and his team doing a brilliant jobs
@jamessugden1616 Жыл бұрын
Where can I find these videos please mate? I’m in Australia
@rickharrison6325 Жыл бұрын
@@jamessugden1616 sky documentary channel(uk)
@trueblue3719 Жыл бұрын
Agree 100% mate
@gordy3714 Жыл бұрын
Where do you start with the misinformation. Go ahead there is plenty.
@WinstonMamboola Жыл бұрын
@@rickharrison6325dis in da comedy section he he
@davida369 Жыл бұрын
Stoke Newington Police station is infamous for all the wrong reasons, surprised he brings up his association with it.
@paulkemp63144 ай бұрын
And Enfield police station! Been there a few times 😂
@johnrmce Жыл бұрын
Is it possible that Essex Police had an axe to grind with Steel as they believed he imported the ecstasy tablet taken by Leah Betts and so they fitted him up with the murders?
@matthewhunt797 Жыл бұрын
Yes read once upon a time in Essex, there's a statement from ex sas officer bill Handley...they tapped there phones and knew Tony was trying to get the rivals drop site from his bent copper, the meal was booked as a cover and my guess they were checking access/escape route from the fishing lakes used to drop drugs (why would you be armed if you had old bill with you ??)..they couldn't get steel/whomes on importing the betts gear so this fit up got rid of everyone. All Nichols did was tricked whomes into going to the wheatsheath pub for the cell site data to match
@cheekymonkey4529 Жыл бұрын
The killers went straight back to Jamaica and the police needed to jail someone for such a high profile crime
@gordy3714 Жыл бұрын
@@cheekymonkey4529They had the importations on film.
@michaelgill1203 Жыл бұрын
The police got five birds with one stone !
@tonymacaroni6831 Жыл бұрын
@@cheekymonkey4529how do you know they were from Jamaica
@heathmayfield9148 Жыл бұрын
A terrific podcast gentlemen. Professional, Interesting, informative, debatable. Just a bit rough in the editing department though! Let's have more!
@britishmurders Жыл бұрын
Cheers mate. There’s a reason for the jumpy editing (out of my control). Not as noticeable if you’re only listening rather than watching on here.
@asensibleyoungman2978 Жыл бұрын
I think the RSPB did it. That Range Rover was churning up some important nesting sites for warblers & dunnocks.
@wayneuk Жыл бұрын
paul betts did have his shotguns go missing /stolen. 2 weeks prioir to them getting shot
@WeeZippy11 ай бұрын
and also had a solid alibi for the evening.
@paulkemp63144 ай бұрын
What a coincidence 😂
@ellenlyons4090 Жыл бұрын
If witness A wasn’t telling the truth why on his release from prison was he shot in the face. He survived and moved away from Canning Town . The man he says they picked the guns up from and paid him the money for driving the car was killed by a hit and run driver. So he had every right to be scared someone was getting rid of witnesses. This story is believable more so than Nichols who’s story is built around evidence from eye witnesses that saw the Range Rover on the night. He’s timeline fits in around theirs and jack Whomes picking up the VW Passat that’s broken down. So how could Whomes have been driving the VW Passat ?. And how did I’ve picked your car up turn into pick us up. I don’t believe Whomes and Steel were involved but I think Nichols played some role and was involved more than is known.
@tonypuertollano9375 Жыл бұрын
Supergrass lier darren nichols was still working for steel 2 years after the murders from diy to steels home to drug shipments etc. Nichols only went supergrass and tolded police in 1998 when he got pulled up with lots of drugs in the van and he go down for very long time. So going lier supergrass gets him out of prison and new name life. He made lots of money from bloggs 19 book and reports he is still a drug dealer etc .
@thejfg7741 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you.
@SL-fg1cd Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@davidcorbett1713 Жыл бұрын
Did Nichols open the rear back door of the RR because the shooter wouldn't of. It was someone well known to the 3 who opened the car door. Was Nichols in on it
@ellenlyons4090 Жыл бұрын
@@davidcorbett1713 That I couldn’t say but I’d say he’d had inside information to witness statements. Because he added in aspect to his statement. Like pulling out of the lane in front of a motor with out looking first. None of which were in his first statements. He now apparently admits to being coerced by the police. This is a total fit up and Whomes and Steel are innocent. So you have to ask who were the police protecting by steering it in the direction of Whomes and Steel .
@comara2011 Жыл бұрын
Wow been listening to your podcast for ages lol, didn’t know you were on here 😊great show ! ❤
@britishmurders Жыл бұрын
Cheers! Yeah I go through stages of uploading videos and then not bothering. Currently in the former mood so keep an eye out for vid versions of my episodes here 😁
@wayneholland5 ай бұрын
Great video buddy, Dave is top bloke. Subscribed
@britishmurders5 ай бұрын
Cheers pal
@hearliestheglobe842311 ай бұрын
Seems to me that Nicholls "Agreed to help" the police to get off with the drugs charge. They do it all the time, even tired it with me when I was 18 for a poxy motorcycle road traffic offence..."Give us some names & this will go no further" Needless to say that 2 weeks later I got the court summons in the mail lol.
@ProfessorM-he9rl3 ай бұрын
So basically nobody still knows who?
@cherylspandley8270 Жыл бұрын
Why won't Jack just tell the truth. I wondered if Darren Nicholls had parked the beige vw passat in the turning at the top of the lane on purpose, so that Jack, could be placed in said lane. Was Passat on Wheatsheaf Pub Car Park, or in that lane. Why did Darren hate Jack Whomes so much? It just seems such a set up. Who needs friends with enemy's like that.
@gordy3714 Жыл бұрын
It wasn't at the Wheatsheaf, that's for sure.
@paulkemp63144 ай бұрын
Well done Sherlock 😂😂
@cherylspandley82704 ай бұрын
@@paulkemp6314 Who you calling sherlock. Darren did Rettendon Murders, he admitted to a police officer, who registered him as an I formant. Mr Barrington. The officer that was paying Darren as an informant.
@weller260 Жыл бұрын
There was phone evidence of jacks and Micky’s phone wasn’t there saying they was Ping in or around the area right? But why was there no search of Darren’s phone to see where he was 😮
@intuitiveeevee Жыл бұрын
Those phone masts can cover up to 15 miles radius it doesn't prove anything
@AL-PAKA Жыл бұрын
@@intuitiveeevee of course it does, it proves you are in the area, for example jack saying hed never even been to rettenden in his police interview and then changing his story, after being shown his mobile phone was there.
@gordy3714 Жыл бұрын
Nicholls was in Meadow Road. Half a mile away.
@RAGNAR77224 ай бұрын
Always thought the account given by jasper was probably right and the bill took his statement and fed it to D.N.
@jasonnunn673 Жыл бұрын
May God bless Michael steel and let him go home,
@tonyhornett16353 ай бұрын
Talking of guilt I wonder if any of the members of the jury watch these podcasts what do they think about the compelling evidence that has now been revealed
@rumpoh80396 ай бұрын
BEAST OF JERSEY COURT RECORDS LOCKED UNTIL 2100AD (130 YEARS LOCKED)
@J-Me86-UK Жыл бұрын
Judge paid off!
@swimdeep189 Жыл бұрын
Whomes and Steele didn't have the skill set to carry this out so rapidly in seconds imho.
@AL-PAKA Жыл бұрын
What skill set do you need to fire a shotgun?, its not that hard, you pull the trigger.
@cheekymonkey4529 Жыл бұрын
The real killers went back to Jamaica, the police had to charge someone
@naxalite115 Жыл бұрын
@@AL-PAKAthe rapidity and accuracy of the shooting is second to none. This shooting has all the hallmarks of a professional marksman/hitman.
@AL-PAKA Жыл бұрын
@@naxalite115 you don't need to be a marksman to hit someone from a few feet away ffs
@cherylspandley8270 Жыл бұрын
@@cheekymonkey4529Got on a plane; and went to Panama ( South America):😂😂
@bettyboop-xg6jo Жыл бұрын
What an interesting man David!
@frankadam740 Жыл бұрын
Who's was the coke ttr had in the range rover and how did jasper's passager know thare was 4kilo in thare to steel?
@paulkemp63144 ай бұрын
Cause they set it all up!!! It was a trap !!! Mickey and jack where collateral damage
@DeanRyan899 ай бұрын
Doing a deal for 4 kilos of coke without arms? Dunno about that one!
@wezite1983 Жыл бұрын
26:55 He can't really accuse people of profiting from the Rettendon murders, when he's doing the exact same thing with the documentary!
@swimdeep189 Жыл бұрын
What ?
@WinstonMamboola Жыл бұрын
@wezite1983 well sed he he
@Bushwacker-mb6hw3 ай бұрын
I’ve been rolled over by bent cops in Essex on more than one occasion
@user-op8lm3he1p Жыл бұрын
watched a video of dibley recently and dibley says he was visiting pat tate in prison so before murders why was dibley visiting pat in jail ?
@mattfrancis4569 Жыл бұрын
u got link mate? cheers
@britishmurders Жыл бұрын
An interesting question for sure
@user-op8lm3he1p Жыл бұрын
@@mattfrancis4569 on 1 of cs2cr vids
@dannycrotch5188 Жыл бұрын
I seem to remember CSTCR mentioning that police were tipped of by criminals offering to take them out, I think that police didn't do it, but they certainly knew something was going down, hence no immediate action taken on the pizza incident with Tate and Rolfe not being questioned about being able to legally drive the Range Rover when talking to police earlier that fateful day.
@rambo235 Жыл бұрын
@@user-op8lm3he1p he was visiting Patrick for a robbery on a cafe my mate👍🏻
@thejfg7741 Жыл бұрын
If this is true, how did he shoot the three of them. I am not saying this incorrect but having made it across the field , he then has to go up to the Range Rover, carrying a shotgun bag, open it and shoot them. It’s possible he used the pistol to threaten them. There’s good detail in the account, it’s known a bag is missing from the Range Rover and was taken. But it’s hard to walk up to a car and shoot three people. Unless of course we dispense of the idea that they were taken by surprise. The prevailing narrative has always been that they were taken by surprise but there’s no evidence for this. Just as possible they were held up then executed.
@caeserornothing Жыл бұрын
Rolfes foot on pedal, Tuckers phone in hand they were definitely caught by surprise but there had to be 2 shooters, Rolfe and Tate were both shot at same time, Tate after
@rickharrison6325 Жыл бұрын
There was more than one down that lane amd im guessing the shooter was down the lane before the range rover,Tate Tucker Rolf didnt have time to react
@gordy3714 Жыл бұрын
Plenty evidence they were taken by surprise as both tucker and tate had their mobiles in their hands and rolfe looked like he was stationed at traffic lights. Where Whomes was hiding further back behind the gate facing rettendon hall, it's pitch black and only a small distance to the RR. Shooting 3 people in a RR isn't that difficult 2-3 seconds for the first 3 shots it's over.
@johnhuggett2171 Жыл бұрын
@@caeserornothing Both shot at the same time ?? Who has established that exactly ? The forensic officers on the scene couldn't even establish an accurate time of death for the entire incident so how the heck do we now get to Tate and Rolfe being shot at the exact same moment ?? 😂😂
@TheSavagederek Жыл бұрын
@@rickharrison6325 one gun according to forensics.
@tomh4712 Жыл бұрын
They didn't do it. That's for sure , I hope they get millions when they're cleared
@gordy3714 Жыл бұрын
Really let's hear your version Tom, if you actually know anything, I very much doubt it.
@RANDOMCLIPS894 Жыл бұрын
They did that's fact 👊
@gordy3714 Жыл бұрын
@@RANDOMCLIPS894 Unpopular opinion. At the end of the trial Darren Nicholls was the only credible witness left among Steele, Whomes and Jasper. 👍
@RANDOMCLIPS894 Жыл бұрын
@@gordy3714 I know I was there 😂
@matt81169 Жыл бұрын
You not read witness statements, looked at call records, late alibis ?
@rumpoh80396 ай бұрын
AG V ROUILLE. (JERSEY) COURT RECORDS BLOCKED BUT EXIST WITHIN OTHER RECORDS. CHILDEN AGED BETWEEN THREE AND TWELVE YEARS OF AGE OVER 17 YEAR PERIOD (AROUND 1970)
@rumpoh80396 ай бұрын
16. The Court held that it had no supervisory power over the Attorney General's exercise of discretion in matters arising from criminal investigations, and that is was not possible to challenge the exercise of such discretion on grounds of rationality. The Court recognised that the Attorney General's position is unlike that of the States and its Committees and, in exercising his discretion, the Attorney General is answerable neither to the States nor to the Royal Court except when it was sitting as a court of trial. 17. Of greater relevance is the case of Rouille", in which the Royal Court considered whether the decision to prosecute was amenable to judicial review. The Court held that, although it had a duty to prevent abuses of process, it would be wrong for it to supervise the Attorney General in exercising his discretion whether to proceed in any case. The Court concurred'2with the comments of Lord Salmon in DPP v Humphrys13: 8 Planning and Environment Committee v Lesquende Limited [1998] JLR 1 9 In the matter of the representation of McMahon and Probets [1993] JLR 35 I°Page 51, lines 5-10 11 Attorney General v Rouille [1995] JLR 315 12Page 320 lines 27-40 13(1977) AC 1 at. 46 Legally Privileged Not for Publication 4 Privilege waived - 9 September 2015 "...a judge has not and should not appear to have any responsibility for the institution of prosecutions; nor has he any power to refuse to allow a prosecution to proceed merely because he considers that, as a matter of policy, it ought not to have been brought. It is only if the prosecution amounts to an abuse of process of the court and is oppressive and vexatious that the judge has the power to intervene." 18. The Bailiff was reluctant to place too much reliance on the English authorities: "in this jurisdiction, the responsibility for instituting criminal proceedings in this court rests not with an amorphous government department but with Her Majesty's Attorney General...It would be a serious matter to overturn the decision of the Bailiwick's senior Law Officer of the Crown on a matter which constitutionally lies within his province. That is not to say that it would never be done, nor that the court does not have a duty to examine the matter on an application properly made ...But the court must not forget that the discretion whether or not to institute criminal proceedings is vested in the Attorney General. In our judgment, only limited assistance can be drawn from the decisions in particular English cases "14 19. In Rouille, a representation was made by the accused that the prosecution should be stayed because of the lapse of time since the alleged offence took place, which resulted in certain evidence no longer being available. The Court held that it was for the defence to establish that a fair trial would be impossible in the circumstances". In finding that the accused had failed to satisfy this test, the Court found that the risk of prejudice could adequately be dealt with by appropriate directions at the trial. 20. The issue arose again in the case of Comer16 . In this case the accused applied for independent inquiry into the circumstances of prosecution (which was really an application for judicial review) and / or for an order that the prosecution be discontinued. In dismissing the application, the Bailiff held that the Royal Court had no jurisdiction to entertain applications for this relief: "The evidence against Mr Corner will be tested in due course at the trial of the charges upon which he has been committed for trial ...If there are valid complaints about the conduct of the Attorney General or of the prosecuting authorities in relation to the prosecution process, such complaints can be examined by the trial judge at the appropriate time." 14Page 321 lines 3-17 15Page 320 line 29 16 Cotner v Attorney General, unreported, 1999/139 privilege access redaction.
@kirstydoel7099 Жыл бұрын
I have said since day 1 , yes I’m that old, D.N was undercover old bill. Guaranteed
@lynussss4 ай бұрын
Most of those so called grasses might aswell be
@ralph3428 Жыл бұрын
Good interview
@britishmurders Жыл бұрын
Cheers Ralph
@garryforsyth6186 Жыл бұрын
Bolt eyes ordered it
@bobmathews9072 Жыл бұрын
And the Bowers arranged it (hence the car being picked up outside The Peacock) , this is common knowledge
@Jay-zc7iq Жыл бұрын
I think enough people have made more than enough cash off there backs by now books films , everyone lies , bends the truth , I’ve heard that many stories the only person that hasn’t admitted to killing them is Ronald McDonald 😂 , leave ‘em where they deserve in the ground And forgotten.
@davefilms345 Жыл бұрын
I don't think we will ever know who killed them, ppl wouldn't dare open their mouth about it even now even after 27+ yrs. Leah wasn't at a rave, Leah didn't even step into Raquels to purchase the tablet( whether she went clubbing there on previous occasions is another thing). She was at home at her party where she took the tablet. But the tablet was more than likely bought at the club at some point. I've always believed the MS and JW were innocent because what motive did they really have here..they didn't..It was a set up, they had to put somebody away for it so they believed DN version of events. Inspector dibley would be a good person to interview ( if he's still alive) he was the leading officer on this and his last apparently before his retirement, I think he knew exactly what was going down even before. Pat was under police survalence 24hrs before so why wasn't he arrested for the pizza incident even though charges were dropped against him he would of still been brought in for questioning. Things don't add up imo. It seems as if they weren't allowed to be touched/arrested or whatever before they were killed no matter what. I don't have sky so I hope I can watch this documentary on here if someone posts it. Great interview all the same
@britishmurders Жыл бұрын
Cheers mate. A very insightful comment, thank you.
@andybird7192 Жыл бұрын
Hit it fully on the head ther mate I actually think surveillance was never pulled and I think the police seen it go down and half the force back then wer taking lots of payments 1 foot print in snow all evidence totally destroyed and come s in the word of a proper loser to save is own skin shocking
@gordy3714 Жыл бұрын
What motive did Steele and Whomes have, you are not serious Dave. 😆😆
@davefilms345 Жыл бұрын
@@gordy3714 what I should have said was..what motive did they have..they didn't
@cherylspandley8270 Жыл бұрын
You would if you 😊could apply to NASA For the Satellite Photos, or get that female Detective who works for the Essex Police and claims to be a medium, psychic, to get on this case. She has a video on KZbin. Would love to see her do a Paranormal investigation down Workhouse Lane.
@heresjonny..8189 Жыл бұрын
Bringing interest into this again
@britishmurders Жыл бұрын
Aye. You should check out the Sky docuseries that comes out this weekend. Really interesting.
@heresjonny..8189 Жыл бұрын
@@britishmurders will do , it’s a liberty for MS .. don’t get me wrong he was a player… but don’t think he should’ve been locked up for all this time.. hopefully he gets a breath of free air befire to late
@intothewild5045 Жыл бұрын
@@britishmurders what is it called dude plz
@britishmurders Жыл бұрын
@@intothewild5045 ‘The Essex Murders’
@Leo-dr4qm Жыл бұрын
Brilliant
@martyc4599 Жыл бұрын
Please god. Not this Range Rover bolloc** again. It was years ago ffs. Move on.
@user-op8lm3he1p Жыл бұрын
BOM has removed his videos of the hooded fella off youtube
@cherylspandley8270 Жыл бұрын
David Cawston: smack head entrepreneur, probably got his guns from the Gypsies who were based on Swanton Road at the time.
@MrChrisGordonE3 Жыл бұрын
Leah Betts took the pill whilst at home not at a rave and her parent's was there at the time
@tonypuertollano9375 Жыл бұрын
They all killed her by giveing her to much water. Papers at time blamed the e pill etc essex boys but leah had taken e a few times and everyone nos e is not legal
@brubeck1 Жыл бұрын
yeah they was but didnt know shed took anything.
@koont6669 ай бұрын
Amazing copper account and podcast 💪🇬🇧
@DC_92Ай бұрын
“Mr D” is on KZbin.
@intuitiveeevee Жыл бұрын
That three part series was hilarious with all those "underworld figures" in aldi hoodies in silhouette 😂 as an ex detective how come hes totally missed the embedded confession from the farmers mate in the 999 call ,the part that says "we done our duty" how come he missed the part of the call where farmers mate slips up and says he saw FOUR men in the range rover ,he says "four...three men" when asked how many by the dispatcher ,which tells me him and farmer were part of it,by allowing the lane to be used and their job was to also "discover " the bodies,thats why he sounds so calm, i believe they also had another job and that was to bury the gun on the land ,how come they didnt wonder how the range rover had levitated over the gate when they lock the gates every night,isnt it weird the lock had just been changed ,nope because they said about 15 people had the key but they had to change the lock for that night to prevent any witnesses going down there,they had to be involved to block off the lane because they had stated the lane was used as a lovers lane and q dog walkers lane ..the farmer had to be there to stop people coming down the lane,the tracks in front of the RR are probably the farmers land rover as they extend firther into the field ,is this detective forgetting that the farmer and his brother knew two of the dead men ! Their land was chosen due to the perfect proximity to the shooting range to cover the gunshot sounds,land owners are usually freemasons as are top police ...think about that. The farmers mate also contradicted the farmer re the feeding of the pheasants ,farmers nate said they did feed them ,farmer said they didnt as it was too late. I believe they let the RR onto the land ,it followed them ,they did a loop round the farmland then back out onto the main road later to "discover the bodies" the fact he said four men in the car is a major fruedian slip,thats letting us know he saw the RR when it arrived! I would say the farmer and his friend needed looking into further but we know why they werent ,in my opinion they are more interesting than nichols and jasper put together And also the similarity between this case and Jeremy bambers case ,both farm owners ex RAF ,both cases have people in prison who didnt do it ,both involve guns ,both have a white house farm,i wonder did drugs come in via osea island which was known as a party location? The bambers ran a caravan park in osea ,shiela bamber was known to go to london to take drugs and go to night clubs ,ive got my theory who did those murders but i will keep that off here ,just look at the similarities and the common denominator is essex police bodging the crime scene in both cases
@nishiki7047 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic analysis
@Musicshit137 Жыл бұрын
I'd said I was the farmers all along makes to much sense to me in so many ways
@davecawston4924 Жыл бұрын
I was the one in the "Hoodie," I properly set them up and mugged them off, ex-detectives....corrupt as F-ck.
@chrisd3211 Жыл бұрын
@daviecawston who gave the green light
@lynussss4 ай бұрын
Do you reckon the farmers had the minerals to do the damage that was done ?
@fullyawakeloyah88448 ай бұрын
What if DN was a deep undercover copper???
@worstxb1playertylerteehc635 Жыл бұрын
Leach by name. Leach by nature.
@danielmoran990213 күн бұрын
I'm eating a burger while watching this, and the bacon on it is dee-lishus!
@Rivaboyz1987 Жыл бұрын
Tate had a warning about tucker a few weeks before they died when Tate was inside tucker got on the drugs hard and spent Noel razor smiths 495k money from a robbery so I’d say ether Tate set it up and got done him self or Carlton leach no,s more than he’s letting on maybe he had a visit and was told get them down the lane or your getting done aswell
@bobmathews9072 Жыл бұрын
Noel Razor Smiths money from a robbery ? Not sure where you got that from - it was Patsy Clarkes money from a Group 4 security van robbery in Hainault . And The Bowers arranged the hit for Clarke
@renegade-master29 Жыл бұрын
Freemason army the police at a speculated guess
@jackruss8254 Жыл бұрын
Some one with a shotgun did it deffo' but it was dark in the middle of no were and the only witnesses are sadly no longer with us' so i guess nobody will ever really know 'thats the problem with hits 'for some strange reason the killer never wants anyone to know they done it
@worstxb1playertylerteehc635 Жыл бұрын
Wow you a genius.
@jackruss8254 Жыл бұрын
@@worstxb1playertylerteehc635 sarcasm brains i was being sarcastic clearly it is you 'who is the genius😊
@louis.b333 Жыл бұрын
"There's people who wrote books, made money and changed their opinions" no name mentioned omahoney bro 😅
@freemindthinkerezrapound50714 ай бұрын
12.10 i thought that guy was literally going to choke to death when asked about the arrest of Darren Nichols and if he wasn't sitting he would have fallen over
@neymarjr107104 ай бұрын
Who is Mr "D"?
@DC_92Ай бұрын
Simon Pinchbeck.
@SEANPOL2035 ай бұрын
A lot of people say the victims were bullies
@ScotsGal11 ай бұрын
Watched the sky documentary ..I think old ivan dribley is a comedian " the police don't coach" 🤣...yes OK ivan ..why don't you go and have a lie down ...nothing and no one will change his mind that the 2 in prison are guilty will it ..from what I've read and heard over the years I reckon the TM EYE guys are pretty close to the truth about what happened and why....Great interview
@gordy371410 ай бұрын
Nice to see see Mckelvey is keeping Steele in prison with his latest ramblings. He thinks he can go over the top of Steele and Whomes solicitors and go directly to the CCRC, with information that's already been dismissed. The guy is seriously deluded. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@bigmamacac Жыл бұрын
Please God someone get Mickey steel out of prison 🙏
@lorrainewhittaker-ij1th Жыл бұрын
Leave Betts father had is police friend's do it professional
@mrscanlan.5016 Жыл бұрын
What Police officer was pals with Nipper Ellis dad? could that officer of known of the meet time by the cops talking to Darren Nicholls or who ever he was working with, so Nipper Ellis's dad and his POLICE OFFICER PAL knew of the meet, they could of gone that night to take them out ( pat, tony, craig), before they were to attack his family younger sister, because nipper and them were going at each other back and fourth a few times?????? shooting involved too in a few times????
@Martin-kl1vk4 ай бұрын
Not I would know but I would say they are not so picky too day and I would say the coppers coming in to retirement are the last of the best coppers
@TheHandsomeman Жыл бұрын
NOOOOO! They would be afraid of comebacks.
@adanroberts7196 Жыл бұрын
wonder how many people he set up ? or how many times his broke the law??? not a person to trust.
@meakledavison4016 Жыл бұрын
Cops are Bell ends now...
@Stonefreaky Жыл бұрын
Cops have always been.
@johnhuggett2171 Жыл бұрын
Yup... definitely intimately acquainted with the ends of bells these days..
@PeterOneill-li2ow4 ай бұрын
The police seen it but had to let it go they were following in the white siera cosworth
@keithchegwin1222 Жыл бұрын
He's looking well for his age.
@HadiTuppa3 ай бұрын
Tucker was target and others were absolutely at wrong place at wrong time…. Mr D? Dean or Dave? Full names available on internet..,.jaspers police interview and Tiberius report….
@AlexDuggan686 ай бұрын
The problem has always been Nicholls story doesnt fit the evidence.
@palacehaunter54429 ай бұрын
Carlton Leach knows more on this.
@bulltraderpt8 ай бұрын
So, looks like the Police were in on it..
@garrywatson77179 ай бұрын
Heres a clue.2 cars are better than 1.ol bill did not shoot them.if you work it out .up to you but im keeping quiet..i like living..
@acerrimmer9066 Жыл бұрын
No time frame from witness A
@RANDOMCLIPS894 Жыл бұрын
We already know who done it 😂
@jamieyoung2 Жыл бұрын
🤣
@peterwhite5654 Жыл бұрын
yep we do. it was colonel mustard in the library with the shotgun. ha ha.
@stuartrogers9031 Жыл бұрын
Crime scene to court room examination of a possible two routes wasn’t there a route from the back of the wheatsheaf carpark.
@britishmurders Жыл бұрын
David covers that route in the Sky series from memory. He retraces the route and times it.
@salvaquest212311 ай бұрын
🤔 more than 10 mins whittling before actually discussing the title of the video 🤷♂️
@britishmurders11 ай бұрын
An introductory discussion, yeah. Never spoke to the geezer before this chat. The timestamps are there so you can jump ahead.
@lennyrussell8954 Жыл бұрын
Everyone should read the book Blogs 19 it's a great work of fiction.
@MrChrisGordonE3 Жыл бұрын
After watching the 3 part story on sky documentary channel I want my 3hrs back. Didn't show anything we don't know already, what a joke
@topsecret69959 ай бұрын
Rise of the Footsoldier 17 - pass me the Milk Tray - serious note it's so interesting especially for those from Essex
@WinstonMamboola Жыл бұрын
Mr McKellen nose what he's talking about. He will solve dis case
@johnhuggett2171 Жыл бұрын
Mr McKellen...? Who's he then ?? Sir Ian McKellen ??
@WinstonMamboola Жыл бұрын
@@johnhuggett2171 dat Mr mechelen will solve dis case ee nose wat he's doin
@user-cc5hj6xp4z Жыл бұрын
what about the theory of suicide!
@uttaradit2 Жыл бұрын
who pulled the trigger ?
@nishiki7047 Жыл бұрын
Who ?
@alwaysbeautiful7395 Жыл бұрын
Bun down bully boy!!! John Bull!!
@truthwinsuk8056 Жыл бұрын
Will we ever find out the REAL truth.?
@peternagy-im4be Жыл бұрын
No. Also you will never see an interview with anyone directly involved in the shootings.
@matt81169 Жыл бұрын
Doesn't take a scientist to work out if you look at phone records, witness statements, data off mobile phones and late shocking alibi. All this is a man plugging his tm eye company
@donjohn2695 Жыл бұрын
We know the truth the rest is just conspiracy theories
@johnhuggett2171 Жыл бұрын
You will find out the real truth, yes... here you go... Dave Courtney did it. Singlehanded. He's the most feared underworld figure in Britain... always has been and will be even after he's dead. I mean just look at that black pinstripe suit and black rollneck...!! Only the most feared underworld figures in Britain are allowed to wear a black pinstriped suit and black roll neck. Oh... and carry a knuckle duster... mustn't forget that...
@flyinghedgehog3833 Жыл бұрын
Bloke proud of being ex Met? Too Funny
@bigbernie72606 ай бұрын
Does he mean 19 95 instead of nighy nighy five he talks like a baby just learning their first words 😢
@britishmurders6 ай бұрын
Me or David?? 😅😂
@bigbernie72606 ай бұрын
@@britishmurders Bowf 🤣
@britishmurders6 ай бұрын
@@bigbernie7260 😂😂😂 accent problems haha
@holdtightonetime Жыл бұрын
i have a question where is darren nicols now? the super grass
@britishmurders Жыл бұрын
I believe he got given a new identity. Other than that, I’m not sure.
@BABY-LOVE-Mexican-Luchadora-19 Жыл бұрын
hes above you in the comments
@jamieyoung2 Жыл бұрын
Check comment above yours lol
@RANDOMCLIPS894 Жыл бұрын
I am here you mug 👀
@intothewild5045 Жыл бұрын
The lad above ain't him. He about same name lives not a million miles from where it happened. He now claims his Dad said last yr on his death bed said he had done it. Who no's
@gordy3714 Жыл бұрын
I never thought Dave would have regressed from laughable. If anyone can't list the number of inconsistencies here from Dave, you are clearly reading the wrong case. 🤣🤣
@essexboysrangerovermurders4892 Жыл бұрын
Hello Martin Moore
@joecourtney2462 Жыл бұрын
Inconsistencies? 🥱 Just real talk, with proper facts!… something that you wouldn’t know anything about.😊
@davidrock6038 Жыл бұрын
@@essexboysrangerovermurders4892 who is Martin Moore
@davidrock6038 Жыл бұрын
Gordy you are so Bernard o mahoney I can tell from what words you use
@gordy3714 Жыл бұрын
@@davidrock6038 Put the lottery on Dave, you will still lose. 🤣🤣
@paulo-kf2lr Жыл бұрын
If steele and whomes are innocent then why are they being led into court with blankets over their heads surely innocent people with all the press and TV cameras surrounding them would be screaming their innocence and not be hiding themselves under blankets
@kirstydoel7099 Жыл бұрын
Old bill tactics to make you think they were guilty
@intuitiveeevee Жыл бұрын
Trouble is there is a photo of one of them and it looks like Michael stone ,I'm a super recogniser with Greenwich university,so can someone please explain that ! It was clearly his recognisable thick lips which Steele and whomes don't have
@jameswood768910 ай бұрын
@@intuitiveeevee tell us who done it I know it had to be an ex military guy trained the farmers defo had something to do with it .
@susanscott8814 Жыл бұрын
⁸I 9
@intothewild5045 Жыл бұрын
What ? What does that mean ??
@caeserornothing Жыл бұрын
???
@TRUCKER.LT71 Жыл бұрын
I watched 2 episodes now , it's great work , but the Range Rover ? I thought it was in yard in Essex rotting away, now it seems to be in mint condition in Newark, I would like to know where it really is or has been fir all these years
@bostonlincolnshire8745 Жыл бұрын
Newark has a huge gypsy/ traveller settlement.
@stubuchanan512910 ай бұрын
She didn’t even go to the club she was at home at a house party and some one els got the drugs for her
@britishmurders9 ай бұрын
I've since learned this, you're right. My own fault for not sufficiently researching that aspect of this case deep enough.
@chrisj622 Жыл бұрын
Can’t believe these abysmal conspiracy theorists have a platform. What an embarrassment he was a police officer Try doing a Q&A with others who don’t believe you , you will be made to look fools
@Beetlejuice1022 күн бұрын
How can you be killed under police surveillance 😂😂😂 only by the police
@SL-fg1cd Жыл бұрын
I believe rolf was first shot, then pat in gut, then Tony, the other four was probably tony then rolf then pat tony.. Tucker was target, other 2 were unlucky... or at least pat was unlucky
@saren6538 Жыл бұрын
You believe ? 😂 your watching too much rise of the foot soldiers
@SL-fg1cd Жыл бұрын
@Saren certainly not based on films.
@saren6538 Жыл бұрын
@@SL-fg1cd great how you can say who was shot first … Rolf first then Pat … then Tony