Who Committed The Essex Murders? | Interview With David McKelvey

[@marksavage1108]

Paul Betts giving Leah 7 1/2 litres of water in 90 minutes is why she died. It was the advice to keep hydrated, which was good advice for a hot sweaty rave club, but Leah was at a house party. Police surveillance being stopped the day before the murders stinks, the police stated on day 2 that the media and public suggesting other lines of enquiry was worthless. that stinks..

[@westhamunited67]

I remember Tony Tucker from Hollywoods in Romford. After he was murdered I bumped into a bouncer who used to work with Tony. He said he wasn't surprised Tony had been killed, said he was a bully.

[@rickharrison6325]

Just watched all 3 episodes on the murders!!! Brilliant Dave Mackelvey and his team doing a brilliant jobs

[@jamessugden1616]

Where can I find these videos please mate? I’m in Australia

[@rickharrison6325]

@@jamessugden1616 sky documentary channel(uk)

[@trueblue3719]

Agree 100% mate

[@gordy3714]

Where do you start with the misinformation. Go ahead there is plenty.

[@WinstonMamboola]

​@@rickharrison6325dis in da comedy section he he

[@davida369]

Stoke Newington Police station is infamous for all the wrong reasons, surprised he brings up his association with it.

[@paulkemp6314]

And Enfield police station! Been there a few times 😂

[@johnrmce]

Is it possible that Essex Police had an axe to grind with Steel as they believed he imported the ecstasy tablet taken by Leah Betts and so they fitted him up with the murders?

[@matthewhunt797]

Yes read once upon a time in Essex, there's a statement from ex sas officer bill Handley...they tapped there phones and knew Tony was trying to get the rivals drop site from his bent copper, the meal was booked as a cover and my guess they were checking access/escape route from the fishing lakes used to drop drugs (why would you be armed if you had old bill with you ??)..they couldn't get steel/whomes on importing the betts gear so this fit up got rid of everyone. All Nichols did was tricked whomes into going to the wheatsheath pub for the cell site data to match

[@cheekymonkey4529]

The killers went straight back to Jamaica and the police needed to jail someone for such a high profile crime

[@gordy3714]

​@@cheekymonkey4529They had the importations on film.

[@michaelgill1203]

The police got five birds with one stone !

[@tonymacaroni6831]

​@@cheekymonkey4529how do you know they were from Jamaica

[@heathmayfield9148]

A terrific podcast gentlemen. Professional, Interesting, informative, debatable. Just a bit rough in the editing department though! Let's have more!

[@britishmurders]

Cheers mate. There’s a reason for the jumpy editing (out of my control). Not as noticeable if you’re only listening rather than watching on here.

[@asensibleyoungman2978]

I think the RSPB did it. That Range Rover was churning up some important nesting sites for warblers & dunnocks.

[@wayneuk]

paul betts did have his shotguns go missing /stolen. 2 weeks prioir to them getting shot

[@WeeZippy]

and also had a solid alibi for the evening.

[@paulkemp6314]

What a coincidence 😂

[@ellenlyons4090]

If witness A wasn’t telling the truth why on his release from prison was he shot in the face. He survived and moved away from Canning Town . The man he says they picked the guns up from and paid him the money for driving the car was killed by a hit and run driver. So he had every right to be scared someone was getting rid of witnesses. This story is believable more so than Nichols who’s story is built around evidence from eye witnesses that saw the Range Rover on the night. He’s timeline fits in around theirs and jack Whomes picking up the VW Passat that’s broken down. So how could Whomes have been driving the VW Passat ?. And how did I’ve picked your car up turn into pick us up. I don’t believe Whomes and Steel were involved but I think Nichols played some role and was involved more than is known.

[@tonypuertollano9375]

Supergrass lier darren nichols was still working for steel 2 years after the murders from diy to steels home to drug shipments etc. Nichols only went supergrass and tolded police in 1998 when he got pulled up with lots of drugs in the van and he go down for very long time. So going lier supergrass gets him out of prison and new name life. He made lots of money from bloggs 19 book and reports he is still a drug dealer etc .

[@thejfg7741]

I agree with you.

[@SL-fg1cd]

Agreed

[@davidcorbett1713]

Did Nichols open the rear back door of the RR because the shooter wouldn't of. It was someone well known to the 3 who opened the car door. Was Nichols in on it

[@ellenlyons4090]

@@davidcorbett1713 That I couldn’t say but I’d say he’d had inside information to witness statements. Because he added in aspect to his statement. Like pulling out of the lane in front of a motor with out looking first. None of which were in his first statements. He now apparently admits to being coerced by the police. This is a total fit up and Whomes and Steel are innocent. So you have to ask who were the police protecting by steering it in the direction of Whomes and Steel .

[@comara2011]

Wow been listening to your podcast for ages lol, didn’t know you were on here 😊great show ! ❤

[@britishmurders]

Cheers! Yeah I go through stages of uploading videos and then not bothering. Currently in the former mood so keep an eye out for vid versions of my episodes here 😁

[@wayneholland]

Great video buddy, Dave is top bloke. Subscribed

[@britishmurders]

Cheers pal

[@hearliestheglobe8423]

Seems to me that Nicholls "Agreed to help" the police to get off with the drugs charge. They do it all the time, even tired it with me when I was 18 for a poxy motorcycle road traffic offence..."Give us some names & this will go no further" Needless to say that 2 weeks later I got the court summons in the mail lol.

[@ProfessorM-he9rl]

So basically nobody still knows who?

[@cherylspandley8270]

Why won't Jack just tell the truth. I wondered if Darren Nicholls had parked the beige vw passat in the turning at the top of the lane on purpose, so that Jack, could be placed in said lane. Was Passat on Wheatsheaf Pub Car Park, or in that lane. Why did Darren hate Jack Whomes so much? It just seems such a set up. Who needs friends with enemy's like that.

[@gordy3714]

It wasn't at the Wheatsheaf, that's for sure.

[@paulkemp6314]

Well done Sherlock 😂😂

[@cherylspandley8270]

@@paulkemp6314 Who you calling sherlock. Darren did Rettendon Murders, he admitted to a police officer, who registered him as an I formant. Mr Barrington. The officer that was paying Darren as an informant.

[@weller260]

There was phone evidence of jacks and Micky’s phone wasn’t there saying they was Ping in or around the area right? But why was there no search of Darren’s phone to see where he was 😮

[@intuitiveeevee]

Those phone masts can cover up to 15 miles radius it doesn't prove anything

[@AL-PAKA]

@@intuitiveeevee of course it does, it proves you are in the area, for example jack saying hed never even been to rettenden in his police interview and then changing his story, after being shown his mobile phone was there.

[@gordy3714]

Nicholls was in Meadow Road. Half a mile away.

[@RAGNAR7722]

Always thought the account given by jasper was probably right and the bill took his statement and fed it to D.N.

[@jasonnunn673]

May God bless Michael steel and let him go home,

[@tonyhornett1635]

Talking of guilt I wonder if any of the members of the jury watch these podcasts what do they think about the compelling evidence that has now been revealed

[@rumpoh8039]

BEAST OF JERSEY COURT RECORDS LOCKED UNTIL 2100AD (130 YEARS LOCKED)

[@J-Me86-UK]

Judge paid off!

[@swimdeep189]

Whomes and Steele didn't have the skill set to carry this out so rapidly in seconds imho.

[@AL-PAKA]

What skill set do you need to fire a shotgun?, its not that hard, you pull the trigger.

[@cheekymonkey4529]

The real killers went back to Jamaica, the police had to charge someone

[@naxalite115]

@@AL-PAKAthe rapidity and accuracy of the shooting is second to none. This shooting has all the hallmarks of a professional marksman/hitman.

[@AL-PAKA]

@@naxalite115 you don't need to be a marksman to hit someone from a few feet away ffs

[@cherylspandley8270]

​@@cheekymonkey4529Got on a plane; and went to Panama ( South America):😂😂

[@bettyboop-xg6jo]

What an interesting man David!

[@frankadam740]

Who's was the coke ttr had in the range rover and how did jasper's passager know thare was 4kilo in thare to steel?

[@paulkemp6314]

Cause they set it all up!!! It was a trap !!! Mickey and jack where collateral damage

[@DeanRyan89]

Doing a deal for 4 kilos of coke without arms? Dunno about that one!

[@wezite1983]

26:55 He can't really accuse people of profiting from the Rettendon murders, when he's doing the exact same thing with the documentary!

[@swimdeep189]

What ?

[@WinstonMamboola]

@wezite1983 well sed he he

[@Bushwacker-mb6hw]

I’ve been rolled over by bent cops in Essex on more than one occasion

[@user-op8lm3he1p]

watched a video of dibley recently and dibley says he was visiting pat tate in prison so before murders why was dibley visiting pat in jail ?

[@mattfrancis4569]

u got link mate? cheers

[@britishmurders]

An interesting question for sure

[@user-op8lm3he1p]

@@mattfrancis4569 on 1 of cs2cr vids

[@dannycrotch5188]

I seem to remember CSTCR mentioning that police were tipped of by criminals offering to take them out, I think that police didn't do it, but they certainly knew something was going down, hence no immediate action taken on the pizza incident with Tate and Rolfe not being questioned about being able to legally drive the Range Rover when talking to police earlier that fateful day.

[@rambo235]

@@user-op8lm3he1p he was visiting Patrick for a robbery on a cafe my mate👍🏻

[@thejfg7741]

If this is true, how did he shoot the three of them. I am not saying this incorrect but having made it across the field , he then has to go up to the Range Rover, carrying a shotgun bag, open it and shoot them. It’s possible he used the pistol to threaten them. There’s good detail in the account, it’s known a bag is missing from the Range Rover and was taken. But it’s hard to walk up to a car and shoot three people. Unless of course we dispense of the idea that they were taken by surprise. The prevailing narrative has always been that they were taken by surprise but there’s no evidence for this. Just as possible they were held up then executed.

[@caeserornothing]

Rolfes foot on pedal, Tuckers phone in hand they were definitely caught by surprise but there had to be 2 shooters, Rolfe and Tate were both shot at same time, Tate after

[@rickharrison6325]

There was more than one down that lane amd im guessing the shooter was down the lane before the range rover,Tate Tucker Rolf didnt have time to react

[@gordy3714]

Plenty evidence they were taken by surprise as both tucker and tate had their mobiles in their hands and rolfe looked like he was stationed at traffic lights. Where Whomes was hiding further back behind the gate facing rettendon hall, it's pitch black and only a small distance to the RR. Shooting 3 people in a RR isn't that difficult 2-3 seconds for the first 3 shots it's over.

[@johnhuggett2171]

​@@caeserornothing Both shot at the same time ?? Who has established that exactly ? The forensic officers on the scene couldn't even establish an accurate time of death for the entire incident so how the heck do we now get to Tate and Rolfe being shot at the exact same moment ?? 😂😂

[@TheSavagederek]

​@@rickharrison6325 one gun according to forensics.

[@tomh4712]

They didn't do it. That's for sure , I hope they get millions when they're cleared

[@gordy3714]

Really let's hear your version Tom, if you actually know anything, I very much doubt it.

[@RANDOMCLIPS894]

They did that's fact 👊

[@gordy3714]

@@RANDOMCLIPS894 Unpopular opinion. At the end of the trial Darren Nicholls was the only credible witness left among Steele, Whomes and Jasper. 👍

[@RANDOMCLIPS894]

@@gordy3714 I know I was there 😂

[@matt81169]

You not read witness statements, looked at call records, late alibis ?

[@rumpoh8039]

AG V ROUILLE. (JERSEY) COURT RECORDS BLOCKED BUT EXIST WITHIN OTHER RECORDS. CHILDEN AGED BETWEEN THREE AND TWELVE YEARS OF AGE OVER 17 YEAR PERIOD (AROUND 1970)

[@rumpoh8039]

16. The Court held that it had no supervisory power over the Attorney General's exercise of discretion in matters arising from criminal investigations, and that is was not possible to challenge the exercise of such discretion on grounds of rationality. The Court recognised that the Attorney General's position is unlike that of the States and its Committees and, in exercising his discretion, the Attorney General is answerable neither to the States nor to the Royal Court except when it was sitting as a court of trial. 17. Of greater relevance is the case of Rouille", in which the Royal Court considered whether the decision to prosecute was amenable to judicial review. The Court held that, although it had a duty to prevent abuses of process, it would be wrong for it to supervise the Attorney General in exercising his discretion whether to proceed in any case. The Court concurred'2with the comments of Lord Salmon in DPP v Humphrys13: 8 Planning and Environment Committee v Lesquende Limited [1998] JLR 1 9 In the matter of the representation of McMahon and Probets [1993] JLR 35 I°Page 51, lines 5-10 11 Attorney General v Rouille [1995] JLR 315 12Page 320 lines 27-40 13(1977) AC 1 at. 46 Legally Privileged Not for Publication 4 Privilege waived - 9 September 2015 "...a judge has not and should not appear to have any responsibility for the institution of prosecutions; nor has he any power to refuse to allow a prosecution to proceed merely because he considers that, as a matter of policy, it ought not to have been brought. It is only if the prosecution amounts to an abuse of process of the court and is oppressive and vexatious that the judge has the power to intervene." 18. The Bailiff was reluctant to place too much reliance on the English authorities: "in this jurisdiction, the responsibility for instituting criminal proceedings in this court rests not with an amorphous government department but with Her Majesty's Attorney General...It would be a serious matter to overturn the decision of the Bailiwick's senior Law Officer of the Crown on a matter which constitutionally lies within his province. That is not to say that it would never be done, nor that the court does not have a duty to examine the matter on an application properly made ...But the court must not forget that the discretion whether or not to institute criminal proceedings is vested in the Attorney General. In our judgment, only limited assistance can be drawn from the decisions in particular English cases "14 19. In Rouille, a representation was made by the accused that the prosecution should be stayed because of the lapse of time since the alleged offence took place, which resulted in certain evidence no longer being available. The Court held that it was for the defence to establish that a fair trial would be impossible in the circumstances". In finding that the accused had failed to satisfy this test, the Court found that the risk of prejudice could adequately be dealt with by appropriate directions at the trial. 20. The issue arose again in the case of Comer16 . In this case the accused applied for independent inquiry into the circumstances of prosecution (which was really an application for judicial review) and / or for an order that the prosecution be discontinued. In dismissing the application, the Bailiff held that the Royal Court had no jurisdiction to entertain applications for this relief: "The evidence against Mr Corner will be tested in due course at the trial of the charges upon which he has been committed for trial ...If there are valid complaints about the conduct of the Attorney General or of the prosecuting authorities in relation to the prosecution process, such complaints can be examined by the trial judge at the appropriate time." 14Page 321 lines 3-17 15Page 320 line 29 16 Cotner v Attorney General, unreported, 1999/139 privilege access redaction.

[@kirstydoel7099]

I have said since day 1 , yes I’m that old, D.N was undercover old bill. Guaranteed

[@lynussss]

Most of those so called grasses might aswell be

[@ralph3428]

Good interview

[@britishmurders]

Cheers Ralph

[@garryforsyth6186]

Bolt eyes ordered it

[@bobmathews9072]

And the Bowers arranged it (hence the car being picked up outside The Peacock) , this is common knowledge

[@Jay-zc7iq]

I think enough people have made more than enough cash off there backs by now books films , everyone lies , bends the truth , I’ve heard that many stories the only person that hasn’t admitted to killing them is Ronald McDonald 😂 , leave ‘em where they deserve in the ground And forgotten.

[@davefilms345]

I don't think we will ever know who killed them, ppl wouldn't dare open their mouth about it even now even after 27+ yrs. Leah wasn't at a rave, Leah didn't even step into Raquels to purchase the tablet( whether she went clubbing there on previous occasions is another thing). She was at home at her party where she took the tablet. But the tablet was more than likely bought at the club at some point. I've always believed the MS and JW were innocent because what motive did they really have here..they didn't..It was a set up, they had to put somebody away for it so they believed DN version of events. Inspector dibley would be a good person to interview ( if he's still alive) he was the leading officer on this and his last apparently before his retirement, I think he knew exactly what was going down even before. Pat was under police survalence 24hrs before so why wasn't he arrested for the pizza incident even though charges were dropped against him he would of still been brought in for questioning. Things don't add up imo. It seems as if they weren't allowed to be touched/arrested or whatever before they were killed no matter what. I don't have sky so I hope I can watch this documentary on here if someone posts it. Great interview all the same

[@britishmurders]

Cheers mate. A very insightful comment, thank you.

[@andybird7192]

Hit it fully on the head ther mate I actually think surveillance was never pulled and I think the police seen it go down and half the force back then wer taking lots of payments 1 foot print in snow all evidence totally destroyed and come s in the word of a proper loser to save is own skin shocking

[@gordy3714]

What motive did Steele and Whomes have, you are not serious Dave. 😆😆

[@davefilms345]

@@gordy3714 what I should have said was..what motive did they have..they didn't

[@cherylspandley8270]

You would if you 😊could apply to NASA For the Satellite Photos, or get that female Detective who works for the Essex Police and claims to be a medium, psychic, to get on this case. She has a video on KZbin. Would love to see her do a Paranormal investigation down Workhouse Lane.

[@heresjonny..8189]

Bringing interest into this again

[@britishmurders]

Aye. You should check out the Sky docuseries that comes out this weekend. Really interesting.

[@heresjonny..8189]

@@britishmurders will do , it’s a liberty for MS .. don’t get me wrong he was a player… but don’t think he should’ve been locked up for all this time.. hopefully he gets a breath of free air befire to late

[@intothewild5045]

​@@britishmurders what is it called dude plz

[@britishmurders]

@@intothewild5045 ‘The Essex Murders’

[@Leo-dr4qm]

Brilliant

[@martyc4599]

Please god. Not this Range Rover bolloc** again. It was years ago ffs. Move on.

[@user-op8lm3he1p]

BOM has removed his videos of the hooded fella off youtube

[@cherylspandley8270]

David Cawston: smack head entrepreneur, probably got his guns from the Gypsies who were based on Swanton Road at the time.

[@MrChrisGordonE3]

Leah Betts took the pill whilst at home not at a rave and her parent's was there at the time

[@tonypuertollano9375]

They all killed her by giveing her to much water. Papers at time blamed the e pill etc essex boys but leah had taken e a few times and everyone nos e is not legal

[@brubeck1]

yeah they was but didnt know shed took anything.

[@koont666]

Amazing copper account and podcast 💪🇬🇧

[@DC_92]

“Mr D” is on KZbin.

[@intuitiveeevee]

That three part series was hilarious with all those "underworld figures" in aldi hoodies in silhouette 😂 as an ex detective how come hes totally missed the embedded confession from the farmers mate in the 999 call ,the part that says "we done our duty" how come he missed the part of the call where farmers mate slips up and says he saw FOUR men in the range rover ,he says "four...three men" when asked how many by the dispatcher ,which tells me him and farmer were part of it,by allowing the lane to be used and their job was to also "discover " the bodies,thats why he sounds so calm, i believe they also had another job and that was to bury the gun on the land ,how come they didnt wonder how the range rover had levitated over the gate when they lock the gates every night,isnt it weird the lock had just been changed ,nope because they said about 15 people had the key but they had to change the lock for that night to prevent any witnesses going down there,they had to be involved to block off the lane because they had stated the lane was used as a lovers lane and q dog walkers lane ..the farmer had to be there to stop people coming down the lane,the tracks in front of the RR are probably the farmers land rover as they extend firther into the field ,is this detective forgetting that the farmer and his brother knew two of the dead men ! Their land was chosen due to the perfect proximity to the shooting range to cover the gunshot sounds,land owners are usually freemasons as are top police ...think about that. The farmers mate also contradicted the farmer re the feeding of the pheasants ,farmers nate said they did feed them ,farmer said they didnt as it was too late. I believe they let the RR onto the land ,it followed them ,they did a loop round the farmland then back out onto the main road later to "discover the bodies" the fact he said four men in the car is a major fruedian slip,thats letting us know he saw the RR when it arrived! I would say the farmer and his friend needed looking into further but we know why they werent ,in my opinion they are more interesting than nichols and jasper put together And also the similarity between this case and Jeremy bambers case ,both farm owners ex RAF ,both cases have people in prison who didnt do it ,both involve guns ,both have a white house farm,i wonder did drugs come in via osea island which was known as a party location? The bambers ran a caravan park in osea ,shiela bamber was known to go to london to take drugs and go to night clubs ,ive got my theory who did those murders but i will keep that off here ,just look at the similarities and the common denominator is essex police bodging the crime scene in both cases

[@nishiki7047]

Fantastic analysis

[@Musicshit137]

I'd said I was the farmers all along makes to much sense to me in so many ways

[@davecawston4924]

I was the one in the "Hoodie," I properly set them up and mugged them off, ex-detectives....corrupt as F-ck.

[@chrisd3211]

@daviecawston who gave the green light

[@lynussss]

Do you reckon the farmers had the minerals to do the damage that was done ?

[@fullyawakeloyah8844]

What if DN was a deep undercover copper???

[@worstxb1playertylerteehc635]

Leach by name. Leach by nature.

[@danielmoran9902]

I'm eating a burger while watching this, and the bacon on it is dee-lishus!

[@Rivaboyz1987]

Tate had a warning about tucker a few weeks before they died when Tate was inside tucker got on the drugs hard and spent Noel razor smiths 495k money from a robbery so I’d say ether Tate set it up and got done him self or Carlton leach no,s more than he’s letting on maybe he had a visit and was told get them down the lane or your getting done aswell

[@bobmathews9072]

Noel Razor Smiths money from a robbery ? Not sure where you got that from - it was Patsy Clarkes money from a Group 4 security van robbery in Hainault . And The Bowers arranged the hit for Clarke

[@renegade-master29]

Freemason army the police at a speculated guess

[@jackruss8254]

Some one with a shotgun did it deffo' but it was dark in the middle of no were and the only witnesses are sadly no longer with us' so i guess nobody will ever really know 'thats the problem with hits 'for some strange reason the killer never wants anyone to know they done it

[@worstxb1playertylerteehc635]

Wow you a genius.

[@jackruss8254]

@@worstxb1playertylerteehc635 sarcasm brains i was being sarcastic clearly it is you 'who is the genius😊

[@louis.b333]

"There's people who wrote books, made money and changed their opinions" no name mentioned omahoney bro 😅

[@freemindthinkerezrapound5071]

12.10 i thought that guy was literally going to choke to death when asked about the arrest of Darren Nichols and if he wasn't sitting he would have fallen over

[@neymarjr10710]

Who is Mr "D"?

[@DC_92]

Simon Pinchbeck.

[@SEANPOL203]

A lot of people say the victims were bullies

[@ScotsGal]

Watched the sky documentary ..I think old ivan dribley is a comedian " the police don't coach" 🤣...yes OK ivan ..why don't you go and have a lie down ...nothing and no one will change his mind that the 2 in prison are guilty will it ..from what I've read and heard over the years I reckon the TM EYE guys are pretty close to the truth about what happened and why....Great interview

[@gordy3714]

Nice to see see Mckelvey is keeping Steele in prison with his latest ramblings. He thinks he can go over the top of Steele and Whomes solicitors and go directly to the CCRC, with information that's already been dismissed. The guy is seriously deluded. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@bigmamacac]

Please God someone get Mickey steel out of prison 🙏

[@lorrainewhittaker-ij1th]

Leave Betts father had is police friend's do it professional

[@mrscanlan.5016]

What Police officer was pals with Nipper Ellis dad? could that officer of known of the meet time by the cops talking to Darren Nicholls or who ever he was working with, so Nipper Ellis's dad and his POLICE OFFICER PAL knew of the meet, they could of gone that night to take them out ( pat, tony, craig), before they were to attack his family younger sister, because nipper and them were going at each other back and fourth a few times?????? shooting involved too in a few times????

[@Martin-kl1vk]

Not I would know but I would say they are not so picky too day and I would say the coppers coming in to retirement are the last of the best coppers

[@TheHandsomeman]

NOOOOO! They would be afraid of comebacks.

[@adanroberts7196]

wonder how many people he set up ? or how many times his broke the law??? not a person to trust.

[@meakledavison4016]

Cops are Bell ends now...

[@Stonefreaky]

Cops have always been.

[@johnhuggett2171]

Yup... definitely intimately acquainted with the ends of bells these days..

[@PeterOneill-li2ow]

The police seen it but had to let it go they were following in the white siera cosworth

[@keithchegwin1222]

He's looking well for his age.

[@HadiTuppa]

Tucker was target and others were absolutely at wrong place at wrong time…. Mr D? Dean or Dave? Full names available on internet..,.jaspers police interview and Tiberius report….

[@AlexDuggan68]

The problem has always been Nicholls story doesnt fit the evidence.

[@palacehaunter5442]

Carlton Leach knows more on this.

[@bulltraderpt]

So, looks like the Police were in on it..

[@garrywatson7717]

Heres a clue.2 cars are better than 1.ol bill did not shoot them.if you work it out .up to you but im keeping quiet..i like living..

[@acerrimmer9066]

No time frame from witness A

[@RANDOMCLIPS894]

We already know who done it 😂

[@jamieyoung2]

🤣

[@peterwhite5654]

yep we do. it was colonel mustard in the library with the shotgun. ha ha.

[@stuartrogers9031]

Crime scene to court room examination of a possible two routes wasn’t there a route from the back of the wheatsheaf carpark.

[@britishmurders]

David covers that route in the Sky series from memory. He retraces the route and times it.

[@salvaquest2123]

🤔 more than 10 mins whittling before actually discussing the title of the video 🤷‍♂️

[@britishmurders]

An introductory discussion, yeah. Never spoke to the geezer before this chat. The timestamps are there so you can jump ahead.

[@lennyrussell8954]

Everyone should read the book Blogs 19 it's a great work of fiction.

[@MrChrisGordonE3]

After watching the 3 part story on sky documentary channel I want my 3hrs back. Didn't show anything we don't know already, what a joke

[@topsecret6995]

Rise of the Footsoldier 17 - pass me the Milk Tray - serious note it's so interesting especially for those from Essex

[@WinstonMamboola]

Mr McKellen nose what he's talking about. He will solve dis case

[@johnhuggett2171]

Mr McKellen...? Who's he then ?? Sir Ian McKellen ??

[@WinstonMamboola]

@@johnhuggett2171 dat Mr mechelen will solve dis case ee nose wat he's doin

[@user-cc5hj6xp4z]

what about the theory of suicide!

[@uttaradit2]

who pulled the trigger ?

[@nishiki7047]

Who ?

[@alwaysbeautiful7395]

Bun down bully boy!!! John Bull!!

[@truthwinsuk8056]

Will we ever find out the REAL truth.?

[@peternagy-im4be]

No. Also you will never see an interview with anyone directly involved in the shootings.

[@matt81169]

Doesn't take a scientist to work out if you look at phone records, witness statements, data off mobile phones and late shocking alibi. All this is a man plugging his tm eye company

[@donjohn2695]

We know the truth the rest is just conspiracy theories

[@johnhuggett2171]

You will find out the real truth, yes... here you go... Dave Courtney did it. Singlehanded. He's the most feared underworld figure in Britain... always has been and will be even after he's dead. I mean just look at that black pinstripe suit and black rollneck...!! Only the most feared underworld figures in Britain are allowed to wear a black pinstriped suit and black roll neck. Oh... and carry a knuckle duster... mustn't forget that...

[@flyinghedgehog3833]

Bloke proud of being ex Met? Too Funny

[@bigbernie7260]

Does he mean 19 95 instead of nighy nighy five he talks like a baby just learning their first words 😢

[@britishmurders]

Me or David?? 😅😂

[@bigbernie7260]

@@britishmurders Bowf 🤣

[@britishmurders]

@@bigbernie7260 😂😂😂 accent problems haha

[@holdtightonetime]

i have a question where is darren nicols now? the super grass

[@britishmurders]

I believe he got given a new identity. Other than that, I’m not sure.

[@BABY-LOVE-Mexican-Luchadora-19]

hes above you in the comments

[@jamieyoung2]

Check comment above yours lol

[@RANDOMCLIPS894]

I am here you mug 👀

[@intothewild5045]

The lad above ain't him. He about same name lives not a million miles from where it happened. He now claims his Dad said last yr on his death bed said he had done it. Who no's

[@gordy3714]

I never thought Dave would have regressed from laughable. If anyone can't list the number of inconsistencies here from Dave, you are clearly reading the wrong case. 🤣🤣

[@essexboysrangerovermurders4892]

Hello Martin Moore

[@joecourtney2462]

Inconsistencies? 🥱 Just real talk, with proper facts!… something that you wouldn’t know anything about.😊

[@davidrock6038]

@@essexboysrangerovermurders4892 who is Martin Moore

[@davidrock6038]

Gordy you are so Bernard o mahoney I can tell from what words you use

[@gordy3714]

@@davidrock6038 Put the lottery on Dave, you will still lose. 🤣🤣

[@paulo-kf2lr]

If steele and whomes are innocent then why are they being led into court with blankets over their heads surely innocent people with all the press and TV cameras surrounding them would be screaming their innocence and not be hiding themselves under blankets

[@kirstydoel7099]

Old bill tactics to make you think they were guilty

[@intuitiveeevee]

Trouble is there is a photo of one of them and it looks like Michael stone ,I'm a super recogniser with Greenwich university,so can someone please explain that ! It was clearly his recognisable thick lips which Steele and whomes don't have

[@jameswood7689]

@@intuitiveeevee tell us who done it I know it had to be an ex military guy trained the farmers defo had something to do with it .

[@susanscott8814]

⁸I 9

[@intothewild5045]

What ? What does that mean ??

[@caeserornothing]

???

[@TRUCKER.LT71]

I watched 2 episodes now , it's great work , but the Range Rover ? I thought it was in yard in Essex rotting away, now it seems to be in mint condition in Newark, I would like to know where it really is or has been fir all these years

[@bostonlincolnshire8745]

Newark has a huge gypsy/ traveller settlement.

[@stubuchanan5129]

She didn’t even go to the club she was at home at a house party and some one els got the drugs for her

[@britishmurders]

I've since learned this, you're right. My own fault for not sufficiently researching that aspect of this case deep enough.

[@chrisj622]

Can’t believe these abysmal conspiracy theorists have a platform. What an embarrassment he was a police officer Try doing a Q&A with others who don’t believe you , you will be made to look fools

[@Beetlejuice10]

How can you be killed under police surveillance 😂😂😂 only by the police

[@SL-fg1cd]

I believe rolf was first shot, then pat in gut, then Tony, the other four was probably tony then rolf then pat tony.. Tucker was target, other 2 were unlucky... or at least pat was unlucky

[@saren6538]

You believe ? 😂 your watching too much rise of the foot soldiers

[@SL-fg1cd]

@Saren certainly not based on films.

[@saren6538]

@@SL-fg1cd great how you can say who was shot first … Rolf first then Pat … then Tony

[@SL-fg1cd]

@Saren is only my theory, driver has to be first,

[@saren6538]

@@SL-fg1cd everyone knows that