Who'd be the NBA MVP right now?

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@mikecash6398
@mikecash6398 9 күн бұрын
I love this guy. Straight to the point and presents like a regular dude that knows his basketball.
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 9 күн бұрын
Thanks, brother! Glad you're enjoying the content!
@Portsmouth-OrlandoMagic
@Portsmouth-OrlandoMagic 9 күн бұрын
Great video as ever mate, I’d love to see a video like on this season’s Rookie Of The Year.
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 9 күн бұрын
That will definitely happen in a few months.
@darren806
@darren806 9 күн бұрын
​@@whatshortscould do one soon and another after the playoffs? Whatever subject you decide I'll watch anyway lol
@IAMDOPED
@IAMDOPED 9 күн бұрын
@ no please not NOO!
@rollingpaper-x2u
@rollingpaper-x2u 6 күн бұрын
It's jokic. SGA is having an amazing season and would be a 2x mvp this year if jokic didn't exist, but jokic is having one of the best regular seasons ever and I'm finding it very hard to even find a reason not to give it to him
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 5 күн бұрын
I hope yolk gets it
@evdawgbeat
@evdawgbeat 8 күн бұрын
Being the 1 seed deserves special consideration. It means you couldn’t have possibly been more valuable
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 8 күн бұрын
I agree. That's why I think Shai gets it.
@swagsterpt2
@swagsterpt2 9 күн бұрын
For resurrecting Russ Jokic deserves it
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 9 күн бұрын
it's going to be a factor.
@SurprisedAlpineSkiing-fg5mo
@SurprisedAlpineSkiing-fg5mo 7 күн бұрын
Ows if the number ONE team deserveS the MVP? GIVE THE MVP TO CLEVELAND PLAYER... BECAUSE CAVS IS THE NUMBER ONE OVER ALL...
@AleksanteriR
@AleksanteriR 8 күн бұрын
Has to be Jokic. The numbers are all time worthy and without him the Nuggets cannot even lace their shoes.
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 8 күн бұрын
I agree, but I think voters go Shai
@AleksanteriR
@AleksanteriR 7 күн бұрын
@@whatshorts I think not, the odds are in favor of Jokic.
@dewman7477
@dewman7477 7 күн бұрын
Shai is the deserving mvp if okc wins 65+ games without Chet most of the season
@lilisolaris0723
@lilisolaris0723 9 күн бұрын
making the MVP the result of a math equation would be bad for the game. It'd incentivize players to be stat merchants over playing winning basketball.
@Wolvesofsheep
@Wolvesofsheep 9 күн бұрын
If winning (record) was weighed heavier into the equation, that could help that issue
@sethc2241
@sethc2241 9 күн бұрын
so...russel westbrook
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 9 күн бұрын
yeah, it'd be dumb.
@dilanburney9554
@dilanburney9554 9 күн бұрын
@@sethc2241I agree with the point but Westbrook’s nba season was crazy and he definitely was legitimately the most valuable player to his team in the league, they weren’t going anywhere without him so he was definitely winning games
@musicfileslibrary
@musicfileslibrary 7 күн бұрын
You sound suspicious of NBA players not being team first guys.
@sethc2241
@sethc2241 9 күн бұрын
jokic and its not close
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 9 күн бұрын
I agree, but voters are weak minded.
@dewman7477
@dewman7477 8 күн бұрын
lol 😂 to say sga is not close who’s actually leading mvp race considering the circumstances of Chet injury and harteinstein missing half the games and sga still on pace for a 70 win season when playing this year is insane. Sga leads in defensive rating, points, steals, blocks, win shares, free throw percentage and midrange as well. Jokic leads in assists and rebounds and PER and offensive rating and 3 point percentage. Sga should win mvp this season
@sethc2241
@sethc2241 8 күн бұрын
@@dewman7477 cool story, still jokic.
@sethc2241
@sethc2241 8 күн бұрын
@ jdub is playing on all star levels, give him his credit. Hartenstein only missed 4 weeks, 3 of which were covered by chet.
@J-Hue
@J-Hue 7 күн бұрын
​@@sethc2241 JDub's level of play is in the same tier as Murray, borderline all star who probably should make the all star game due to his contributions to winning. But if winning counts toward that kind of consideration, then it's tough to argue against Shai for MVP.
@Alexxgone
@Alexxgone 9 күн бұрын
+130 means that if you place 100, you get your 100 and 130 more. Basically 2.3 coefficient Thanks for the video
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 9 күн бұрын
oh dang, you're right. good call I've been saying it wrong for a long time.
@milicevicgospodin
@milicevicgospodin 9 күн бұрын
We had the IBM Award that used a formula to determine who's the best player. David Robinson won like every year in the 90s. It was discontinued like 20 years ago tho.
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 9 күн бұрын
That rules. what was the formula?
@seffor
@seffor 8 күн бұрын
​@whatshorts there's a Wikipedia article about the award with the formula but it's insanely long. Kinda like PER
@milicevicgospodin
@milicevicgospodin 2 күн бұрын
​@@whatshortsLike the dude above me said it was some convoluted shit
@shamemes3476
@shamemes3476 9 күн бұрын
Died laughing when you said the nuggets should flip Julian Strawther, best take in the whole video
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 9 күн бұрын
somebody would like a guy like that right?
@dimitri371
@dimitri371 9 күн бұрын
Where is Brice Sensabaugh?
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 9 күн бұрын
he was 11
@gametime2473
@gametime2473 9 күн бұрын
Jokic is also top 5 in steals and is shooting nearly 50% from 3.
@karimw.9954
@karimw.9954 9 күн бұрын
88% of his 3s are assisted.
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 9 күн бұрын
dang. didn't know about the steals thing. that rocks
@yodatscrazy981
@yodatscrazy981 9 күн бұрын
For Tatum it’s literally because he’s cringe and is notoriously bad in National TV games 😂
@NiksterBikster
@NiksterBikster 9 күн бұрын
Fax
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 9 күн бұрын
it's Jheri curl for me.
@eliheath5336
@eliheath5336 8 күн бұрын
Surprised that Wemby or ant wasn’t on this list but keep up the great work on both channels also can you do a list on two way players please think it would be cool Also jokic should win mvp
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 8 күн бұрын
I'll do that one in a few weeks. I've got a few line up for the next couple. Glad you're enjoying the channels, man!
@joshgeissel9828
@joshgeissel9828 10 күн бұрын
Upload schedule always on point
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 9 күн бұрын
can't miss a day or you're dead.
@nicholaswoel-nogueira4074
@nicholaswoel-nogueira4074 9 күн бұрын
I am a Tatum Fan. The man plays well he doesnt do anything extra, plays defense and is good for the game. No hate for the man.
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 9 күн бұрын
yeah, I like him. that's as far as I'll go though. I want to like him more.
@karimw.9954
@karimw.9954 9 күн бұрын
Jayson Tatum was 2nd in jersey sales last year. He has a lot of fans.
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 9 күн бұрын
oh dang. That's crazy. my b
@RayanStrawberry7
@RayanStrawberry7 10 күн бұрын
I think if the thunder win 66+ games shai should win mvp unless if the nuggets get like 2nd in the west
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 9 күн бұрын
I'd second that.
@parker2345
@parker2345 9 күн бұрын
Great content as always man
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 9 күн бұрын
glad you liked it, man!
@bjohnson107
@bjohnson107 9 күн бұрын
as the 5th Jayson Tatum fan, he's about to pass Michael Jordan on points scored before age 27. He's already passed Giannis. idk, interesting note
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 9 күн бұрын
yeah, he's good. I'm not hatin.
@greenswamponion7330
@greenswamponion7330 9 күн бұрын
I think a cool video idea is players with 500-1 odds that have best chance to win MVP. Players like Cade Cunningham and Trae Young idk
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 9 күн бұрын
that'd be good. I should have done that with this one.
@JusiAlayco
@JusiAlayco 8 күн бұрын
If Shai doesn’t miss any games and wins mvp, he’ll be the first to do that since Kobe’s mvp season. As a Canadian I wanna see that feat done so badly!
@dewman7477
@dewman7477 8 күн бұрын
Shai already missed one game against luka less mavs where okc offence was trash without him that game
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 8 күн бұрын
He missed the Mavs game after I recorded :(
@Cell9074
@Cell9074 8 күн бұрын
The nba hates Giannis
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 8 күн бұрын
not me. I like him.
@kjjr3270
@kjjr3270 9 күн бұрын
For Giannis to win MVP his team would need to go on a crazy win streak and finish 2nd in the east and even this prolly won't be enough. Jokic has a better chance to win it imo. If he finishes the season being Top 3 in ppg, apg and rpg, as well as Denver being the 2nd seed it would already be REALLY close between him and Shai, probably more or less 50/50 (slight edge to Shai though). If he averages a triple double on top of that, Jokic is winning it. This are the standards that are being set for an already 3 time MVP winner, its natural, not necessarily fair though.
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 9 күн бұрын
I think Giannis the only third option for MVP, but you're right he'd have to really make a statement down the stretch.
@xdbetyar
@xdbetyar 9 күн бұрын
If Jayson Tatum has no fans left then I am dead 😤
@gnm4
@gnm4 9 күн бұрын
Rest in pepperonis man we'll remember you
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 9 күн бұрын
I said he has 4 fans. I see you livin.
@irldoge2936
@irldoge2936 7 күн бұрын
With AG back in and running the bench I think the depth could be there. Murray is getting more rest with Westbrook running point and Strawther has been playing better and better. If nuggets play defense well I think they have a shot
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 7 күн бұрын
I concur
@dariusdragomir9414
@dariusdragomir9414 9 күн бұрын
Shai did miss vs mavs, also, they play nuggets is march b2b, if he takes the L and jokic si 2nd seat, its gg, even if okc ll be 3-4 games above denver
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 9 күн бұрын
I record on Thurs, so pre Mavs game. I think you're right the match up will be telling
@unboxuserbruh_6757
@unboxuserbruh_6757 9 күн бұрын
13:22 don't disrespect Siakam like that 😭😭
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 9 күн бұрын
I would never. I'm his biggest rider.
@musicfileslibrary
@musicfileslibrary 7 күн бұрын
Jokic
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 7 күн бұрын
My pick for sure
@icetreym7911
@icetreym7911 9 күн бұрын
I think its time for Wemby to be on this list, Mitchell and Garland should be together on this list tbh lol (Mitchell / Garland #8) Also, Id put Cade on here, maybe as #11, but his skill, IQ, all that, needs to be recognized similar to Brunson, its just Cade Cunningham is stuck on DET, but maybe they find him some better help after the trade deadline, also similar to LaMelo
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 9 күн бұрын
Wemby was 12. it was close.
@bearisok
@bearisok 10 күн бұрын
Me.. and a couple guys from Cameroon 😂😂
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 9 күн бұрын
we have a text thread.
@tonyaldante1017
@tonyaldante1017 8 күн бұрын
Very funny to put the divo shot in the Brunson slide
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 8 күн бұрын
google image find. had to do it.
@icetreym7911
@icetreym7911 9 күн бұрын
I like Tatum lol, maybe not at first, and Im not a Boston fan, but he is on my fantasy team this year, so he's grown on me fs
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 9 күн бұрын
fantasy will definitely bond you to players.
@janovolkner8108
@janovolkner8108 9 күн бұрын
I think people don't like how professional Tatum is, he just seems like he has no personality (he is a perfect player from a GM perspective) you can be 100% sure that he won't say anything controversial, but that's also the problem
@yeetusdeletus5714
@yeetusdeletus5714 9 күн бұрын
Yea people love players with personality like shai and ant while tatum just gets clowned cus he tried to copy iconic moments from other players and doesnt really say much. His personality is media training 😂
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 9 күн бұрын
he can get a little spicy during post game interviews. I remember the first game of the season he was mad at the bench for not breaking the all time threes record.
@jtbaby69
@jtbaby69 9 күн бұрын
This wouldn’t be a whatslaps list without Sabonis
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 9 күн бұрын
he's my hero 🫶
@Seryukov
@Seryukov 9 күн бұрын
Great video, although I can agree with all the arguments in favour of SGA winning, and wouldn't be salty about it, obviously he's the second guy deserving it, the Joker deserves the mvp 100%, and him not getting it I could only attribute to voter fatigue (including NA refusing to vote for a European)
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 9 күн бұрын
I know. I think Jokic deserves it without question, but voters love to give it to different players. it's just how they are.
@Cell9074
@Cell9074 8 күн бұрын
5 of the last 6 MVPs gave gone to a “European” lol good try though
@gugga2745
@gugga2745 8 күн бұрын
asking nba fans to agree on a singular math numbers based formula for MVP is probably harder then turning a clan rally into a blm rally
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 8 күн бұрын
you'd be surprised mob mentality is fickle.
@origin2992
@origin2992 9 күн бұрын
I like your cat
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 9 күн бұрын
she's a sweetie.
@jaywaterpolo
@jaywaterpolo 9 күн бұрын
what place would you put wemby
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 9 күн бұрын
maybe 12?
@jtbaby69
@jtbaby69 9 күн бұрын
OMFG DOUBLE COMMENT BUT THE DG LOVE IS AMAZING
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 9 күн бұрын
Most slept on player this season.
@WokenStrategies
@WokenStrategies 9 күн бұрын
Do you think wemby will be all nba first team this year also do you think he will be in MVP convos next year
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 9 күн бұрын
I think he'll be third team all nba, but dpoy
@WokenStrategies
@WokenStrategies 8 күн бұрын
w Luka out i think wemby is atleast 2nd team all nba sga jokic giannis r locks for first team all nba and tatum prob also will be first and I think wemby can get that 5th spot. 26/10 w 4 blocks a game on like 60% ts idk who else is even in 1st/2nd team all nba convos prob like KAT will b 2nd team, AD, Dmitch. But I don't see any of those guys being above wemby in all-nba terms. I think 3rd team is tooo low for wemby the way he is playin
@keyvax5431
@keyvax5431 18 сағат бұрын
Forgot to mention Jokic is having the best season efficiency wise ever even if you include his previous 3 mvp seasons yet you want to give this to Shai reason provided team is doing better. Put Shai in Denver and Jokic in OKC what do you logically think will happen this will answer your question on who should be MVP. Jokic is on another stratosphere if Shai wins it would be a second DEI MVP with Embiid being the first recipient.
@Ahad_Samad
@Ahad_Samad 9 күн бұрын
SGA will win it 100% Giannis and Jokic ( voter fatigue) Narrative, story and number one spot all speak for SGA (And I know stats are important but all of these 3 put up amazing numbers)
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 9 күн бұрын
yeah, I still believe in yolk itch though.
@Cell9074
@Cell9074 8 күн бұрын
It’s not “voter fatigue” for Giannis just straight hate him and Jokic are not in the same category when it comes to that
@karimw.9954
@karimw.9954 9 күн бұрын
Who should be ranked higher, Alperen or Jalen Brunson?
@coolguymcfunnyman5897
@coolguymcfunnyman5897 9 күн бұрын
Brunson for sure
@karimw.9954
@karimw.9954 9 күн бұрын
@coolguymcfunnyman5897 who should be ranked higher, Nikola Jokic or SGA?
@coolguymcfunnyman5897
@coolguymcfunnyman5897 9 күн бұрын
@ I’ve literally been grappling with that for a hot minute now, sga is so good and the team success is there but damn jokic is killing the game
@karimw.9954
@karimw.9954 9 күн бұрын
@@coolguymcfunnyman5897 both are super elite so there probably isn't a wrong answer.
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 9 күн бұрын
I mean you already know what I say.
@gugga2745
@gugga2745 8 күн бұрын
jokic at #1 on bball ref means nothing, he was the whole of 22/23 i stalk the page and he didnt win it that year
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 8 күн бұрын
didn't embiid usurp him by the end?
@dill_rebl
@dill_rebl 9 күн бұрын
I thought Cade was #9 in MVP tracking? 24.5 6.5 9.5, Pistons 22-21 on 1/20/25 vs 4-38 on 1/20/24. Def not making it anywhere near the top but still (turnovers+record+the pistons)
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 9 күн бұрын
I was out of town this weekend so the tracker was from THursday, so things might have shuffled around a bit.
@icetreym7911
@icetreym7911 9 күн бұрын
Luka boutta come back, win MVP, then win the championship, trust ;)
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 9 күн бұрын
I think he's missed too many games to qualify for post season awards right?
@cjpacholke3837
@cjpacholke3837 9 күн бұрын
Tatums just a quite guy who seems to talk crazy shit to his friends but keeps a shell otherwise around him
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 9 күн бұрын
yeah, that sounds right. he needs the gas from the homies.
@zoid2998
@zoid2998 9 күн бұрын
great cat content :)
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 9 күн бұрын
she's the best
@liamcar180
@liamcar180 9 күн бұрын
Big Pascal Siakam fan here bro is a dog
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 9 күн бұрын
I agree. pure bred dog.
@GoldenNUGGETS55
@GoldenNUGGETS55 9 күн бұрын
Goat
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 9 күн бұрын
🙇‍♀️
@CecilJL-g6x
@CecilJL-g6x 7 күн бұрын
Top 3 in every category. I don't think it's ever been done before. True, amazing, and yet you rank another player above him ? Now that's lunacy dude. You don't think the Nuggets are that good. You don't know basketball. Being a stat nerd, that makes you a, aah, aah, not worth listening to. Do this again in 2 months.
@dewman7477
@dewman7477 7 күн бұрын
Not in blocks though
@dewman7477
@dewman7477 7 күн бұрын
Sga is MVP looking beyond offence triple doubles and just advanced offensive stats
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 7 күн бұрын
4th in steals too
@NiksterBikster
@NiksterBikster 9 күн бұрын
To me, mvp is sometimes the best all around offensive threat in the league, and sometimes it is the player who elevated his team to insane heights off of his own back. Shai is the best offensive player in the league but he has an insane team. Jokic is also arguably the best offensuve player, but his team is booty compared to okc. And yet jokic carries. Idk it reminds me of giannis and Bron
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 9 күн бұрын
yeah, I think it's just a gut thing at the end of the season. voters vote how they feel about the seasonal vibe.
@IAMDOPED
@IAMDOPED 9 күн бұрын
Tj mac sumrhing
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 9 күн бұрын
exactly?
@IAMDOPED
@IAMDOPED 9 күн бұрын
@@whatshorts tj mcallum or connel not sure
@jcsplolonger
@jcsplolonger 9 күн бұрын
I hope Jokic won't win the Season MVP coz remember the time he didn't win the third straight, he goes for the FMVP.
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 9 күн бұрын
that's a good point. I'd settle for FMVP
@jsarguitar
@jsarguitar 9 күн бұрын
Knicks have the second hardest season left this year, will be a big proving ground. They've been working on the stupid fouls with KAT a lot, he hasn't done nearly as many as I used to see on wolves. Also I believe Shai didn't play the other night against the Mavs. I think he's taking it though.
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 9 күн бұрын
I think I recorded before the mavs game. I recorded post cavs game thursday
@danenichols7644
@danenichols7644 9 күн бұрын
doug christie is better than mike brown because he's nicer. doug christie gives hugs and quotes bob marley and doesn't make them practice as much
@whatshorts
@whatshorts 9 күн бұрын
Yeah, seems like the team vibes with Christie. At one point in time they liked Brown, but things go sideways.
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