Who do you got? JUDO or BJJ?

[@maxb1985]

Those judo throws knock your soul out for a couple seconds

[@RobertRose-uj9ce]

Beautiful throw

[@planet4100]

Bone rattling😭☠️

[@TheDoorspook11c]

My dad was a USMC judo instructor in the 1960s, there are throws that can disable or paralyze if not kill.

[@Chaos4Eva1]

Facts!😂

[@howelingmadwolf9415]

Yes they do. My sensei threw while we were sparing and me a few eye blinks to realize I was being submitted

[@charterbus8484]

Something about Judo throws are so satisfying

[@paulgallagher5092]

They're so fucking cool man

[@nedaltrebor8553]

Poetry in motion

[@faizullakhan1556]

Perfection..done without thought.

[@nl1318]

Not something... Everything

[@redclayscholar620]

Boxers hit you with their fists. Judokas hit you with the floor.

[@Dr.Trae1137]

Was expecting judo to throw the shit outta BJJ but to tap the BJJ out aswell is flawless EDIT: Thanks for the likes, but what up with y'all Tryna tell me about my sports like I don't know these things. Go make your own comment on how you feel👌

[@edgarv7879]

Dude. Judo is BJJ. They don't just practice tossing but after a toss they don't let you go. They go straight into a submission. I know a lot of people don't know that and I think it's because judo judo is really effective like extremely effective so you don't really see that many judo dojos out there because it's not easy to get accepted into it you want to guess why because it's extremely effective and deadly I mean look at it you know people think that BJJ is really effective and this and that but when you have a more complete style and this is where Jiu-Jitsu came from by the way The real judo is basically both it's put your ass on the ground and then submit you and it's over what are you going to do The toss alone will definitely discombobulate you by the time you come to you're tapping out cuz they already grabbed one of your limbs whichever one you give them or whichever one they grab and they don't let go as you can see in that video they instantly go for the arm or the leg or your neck but usually they go for an arm and they have many submissions same as jujitsu the same ones but it's so much more fluid when you first toss them and then go into the submission so that proves that it's more complete basically jujitsu is a Japanese heart but Brazilian jujitsu was basically you know like another person's version of the same art so they just modified it kind of like how Wing Chun has different Masters and they all teach a different style of Wing Jung the same same thing you know same thing with kung fu you know Bruce Lee made his own Jeet kune do style it's his own philosophy That's pretty much what Brazilian jujitsu is to their own philosophy but like all arts you know in the beginning when it's a mysterious it's very effective but once they figure it out you know the UFC's perfect for that like you hardly see BJJ Masters as champions anymore cuz once everybody is at least well introduced to BJJ and how to protect yourself from it it loses all its mystery and it's mystique and therefore it's not that easy to get somebody in the ground and keep them there now especially when you know wrestling is extremely effective against BJJ extremely because if you want to roll on the ground the last person you want to roll on the ground with is a wrestler just like a BJJ once they get a hold of you they're not going to let go and they're better at tossing you around than BJJ cuz BJ's not known for tossing but a judo is so if you ever see a wrestler go against the judo practitioner judo hands down because they're a combination of tossing which is similar to wrestling but better if you ask me of course you know wrestlers always shoot for the legs and so to BGJ practitioners but wrestlers are more effective at it they're much quicker they're stronger and all they need to do really is just grab you after that they'll they'll pick you up and BJJ practitioners aren't really trying to pick you up they're trying to grab you and take you down to the floor That's the only way that they can fight but a judo practitioner he can fight you standing up and he can fight you on the floor and he's more deadly standing up to be honest and they do practice some striking just like a taekwondo it's not just kicks they also have some punches but it's really just mainly about tossing you and they have many different ways of doing that and man they have some sweet some sweet flips man they come out of nowhere dude it's just a beautiful art and it's extremely effective

[@oktxvijus]

@@edgarv7879 no one is reading allat

[@robertgerner4231]

Well the arm bar did come from Judo.

[@slowville6637]

Yea I didn't know who was who until he got yeeted.

[@taka9351]

@@oktxvijus😂

[@ThePlaybackRoom]

That Judo throw was CLEAN AF!

[@heartless604]

The BJJ isnt a black belt 😂 that was some amateur ass mistake to leave himself open and allow for him to be smacked down like that! But who knows i guess

[@BaulFoodmanedits]

@@heartless604That has zero to do with this comment?

[@Nobody-me2xk]

@@heartless604one problem with that statement…even black belts are human just bc your advanced at something doesn’t mean you still don’t make mistakes 😂

[@The-Gentle-King]

​@@heartless604bjj doesnt learn to defend throws as much as a trained Judoka is. Bjj mainly focuses on blocking ground grappling. Speaking as a judoka myself, and we know how to counter most of our throws, cant say the same for BJJ guys

[@jarel7871]

@@heartless604bjj black belt doesn’t mean he has refined his stand up especially in gi

[@brandonpotts54]

I'm a judo guy, but I honestly was so happy to see the BJJ guy not throw himself on the ground into guard postion. He stood up and competed. It wasn't his day, but he went out on his shield.

[@kylethedalek]

Because he would have won?

[@wesleydennis3591]

​@@kylethedalekhe have a better day starting on the ground with a judo guy. Shit boy anybody knows that

[@ianritta]

@@kylethedalek Because it's lame and gay to start on your back.

[@JoeyG-o8r]

@@kylethedalek I'm a bjj guy. Butt scooting is lame and gay. You lose the fight by default if your first move is "breed me daddy".

[@LeDardeursPalace]

@Trabsol In a real fight is the lowest form of conversation

[@ridelifegaming13]

That was a picture-perfect Judo throw and finish. Well done.

[@sstills951]

Thanks.

[@slckb0y65]

the jujigatame is also used in BJJ ;)

[@7thGLM]

And he would have win with that one throw if it was a judo ruled « fight ». Beautiful

[@mangekyohoh]

these days, judokas have an unimaginable inferiority complex towards BJJ, surely because their sport has run out of steam. but know one thing my crybabies, 90% of judoka black belts are twisted by jjb black belts. most of you are average in throwing and have no level in newaza. don't compare yourself with Jeff who is in the top 10% of judoka and a jjb black belt.

[@johnklein4558]

I’m confused which guy was representing judo and which guy was representing BJJ ? Nice throw! IPPON!

[@ShinM.]

The Judoka is also a brown belt in BJJ at the time the video was taken. He wasn't just a random Judoka, either. Top flight competitor. Edit: Since so many people seem to think I'm lying about his background, the guy's name is Jeff "Ippon" Lawson. This took place Oct 19, 2016 at Polaris 4. He has fought in the UFC and even been on The Ultimate Fighter.

[@jeffdarnell7942]

You forgot about his SAMBO training as well.

[@johnreidy2804]

He was just a Judo guy no BJJ

[@Creasey_F]

@@johnreidy2804what!???

[@johnreidy2804]

@@Creasey_F He was just a Judo guy no BJJ

[@SweetBrazyN]

Black belts in judo are on the same level as blue belts in BJJ without ever staking a class

[@christianjacoba1841]

This why Rhonda rousey was so dominant during her reign. Literally the exact same moves she used in almost all her wins

[@billionsandbillions]

And Karo Parisyan. Dudes were straight terrified of his throws.

[@eddyray-yb6ig]

she was dominant because womens mma talent is very low. especially at that time.

[@zartic4life]

Royce Gracie does the same white belt chocke he just does it perfectly and you can't stop it.

[@christianjacoba1841]

@@eddyray-yb6igur a bot lol 😂

[@eddyray-yb6ig]

@@christianjacoba1841 they are still using headlocks throws in womens mma. this is elementary school tactics.

[@brawrrrXO]

That fucking judo throw was a solid 10/10 perfect technique

[@tobiasrietveld3819]

The way he did it would NEVER have worked against a decent Judoka though. Standing Ippon Seoi Nage is like a unicorn.

[@andyfisher6025]

If it was a judo fight it would’ve ended on that throw if you get Ippon which is 10 points from the throw you win the fight

[@andyfisher6025]

@@tobiasrietveld3819that’s my fav throw

[@uldisparstrauts]

That throw was enough to finish a judo match. No need for arm bar.

[@markrivera8587]

IIIIIIIPOOOOON already with the elbow lock it is tap out mma rules

[@CoreyRive]

Jeff is a highly accomplished martial artist, judoka first and a high level bjj practitioner too. A great teacher and a lovely bloke.

[@richardselby1711]

I’d be sure we were on good speaking terms and good friends. 😆

[@twerk_it_like_nae_nae7979]

What's a BJJ??

[@chaseschurdevin3152]

Yeah was boutta say he definitely knows more than judo 😂 the way he keeps him to side while he tries to pull guard, obviously not his first rodeo!

[@arnonabuurs7297]

So it's actually judo/bjj vs bjj 😂

[@caliagent55]

So, it wasn't Judo vs BJJ. It was Jufoka with high level BJJ vs ; BJJ only.😅

[@joeashbubemma]

I train Judo, I love training with BJJ guys, we can learn so much from each other.

[@josevarela4271]

Well that's not the point 😌

[@pencilbender]

​@@josevarela4271in the end that's the only point

[@leonardoresende3232]

​@@josevarela4271But it is the whole point of sparring , you can learn from each other ...

[@chuckheinch]

Who's at my gym used to train with them to learn how to do takedowns because in Jiu-Jitsu we didn't train stand up as much. Not all the throws are legal but they utilize the ones they were allowed

[@saiga223ak]

I got paired with the new guy to spar at bjj class one time. His white belt was deceiving because he was a black belt in judo. I got trolled lol

[@JonDenton]

Judo AND BJJ black belt vs BJJ Black Belt (he’s my coach, Jeff ‘Ippon’ Lawson)

[@The_Blondis]

So his nickname basically is "Win"? That sure is a nickname

[@RoomAtTheTopStudio]

Makes sense. Knee on belly isn't really a Judo pin. Judo throws combined with BJJ ground skills can help a white belt beat a blue belt in BJJ competitions.

[@J4Falpha]

Never expected to see you here Jon. Love your content! 😂❤

[@esjd812]

@@J4Falphalmao I had to do a double take as well

[@Howlett9999]

One time I got my lights turned off from a single judo throw , and I was a martial artist with 5 years of experience at the time, I really got humbled, amazing experience

[@Leo-wk7yw]

My old karate instructor told us "If you ever get into a fight with someone who knows judo...run"

[@stuartroseweir9415]

Yeah judo strength is just different

[@ST-ck1hp]

I've been training in Aiki-Jujitsu for several years. And I think that he would have more of a problem with that style

[@jayyy4491]

Dang but that’s how you learn glad you’re ok

[@Chillpillspill]

@@ST-ck1hpI did aikido for 8 years. I've done bjj for 3. I strongly disagree with you.

[@NickWisdom07]

Judo is extremely underrated martial sport Very efficient

[@Thalanox]

It was literally developed as a sport version of jiu-jitsu, if memory serves.

[@Maxwaehrens]

Why is it underrated? Ronda Rousey in her early days dominated all her matches due to her judo background. Of course her ego and lack of striking ability caught up to her in the end, but that's how it goes for almost any martial art in modern MMA...

[@o-wolf]

I still remember when Captain Americas dossier just had boxing and judo on it

[@user-gh8wt2zi2n]

@@o-wolf that's actually a great combo to have knowledge in

[@littlenismo]

Haha ​@@ThalanoxI get it. And JJ is just a form of BJJ designed for competitive love making.

[@runkle8106]

That judo guy knew BJJ, but that BJJ guy didn't know judo

[@johnewell4446]

Any true BJJ black belt is absolutely well versed in Judo takedowns. You won't receive your black belt without that knowledge. It's just a matter of time spent training one discipline vs the other. The judoka spends a majority of their time on nage waza and ne waza is often secondary (but I feel that's changing now). Whereas the BJJ practitioner focuses on their ground game, with less time spent on takedowns.

[@michaellowe5980]

Both techniques from the winner were judo techniques...sorry.

[@arborealmole8079]

⁠@@johnewell4446What he means is that the judo black belt also has a brown belt in BJJ.

[@fitnessworld4475]

sorry borther Bjj is coming from Judo they just modified from Judo technique acutally they are coping Judo technique and develped it on ground fight. however, judo good at throw and control in standing position so bjj boys hard to put them on the ground in first place

[@Evantailsacre]

That could be pure Judo.

[@EliSny-i1f]

The thing I love about the dojo we practice is we learn BJJ but on top of that we include a lot of throws too.

[@WhitePerson-]

Nothing beats a pro judo guy on the streets, their throws are the deadliest martial arts weapon. Especially in winter when you have a nice coat they can grab you onto😂

[@DylanTLawson]

Yep, same. My professor teaches judo throws and some wrestling on top of the BJJ. He's a BJJ black belt, Judo black belt and was a high ranking wrestler.

[@WhitePerson-]

@@EliSny-i1f BJJ guy would hardly put a judo guy on the ground. Its literally their judo game to not get thrown on the ground. But if he does put, judo would lose. But i doubt that can happen

[@EliSny-i1f]

It's not really the martial art it's the person, and how he uses it.

[@RFRM89]

Judo is one of the coolest sports. The takedowns are crazy.

[@zato6226]

Bro , Judo does not take you down. They hit you with the ground.

[@RFRM89]

@@zato6226 yeah that is true😅 I like the throws I've never been on judo because there was no gym in my neighborhood but i bought some books and tried some out with my brother.

[@OneFoxTwoFox]

Judo doesn't have takedowns, they are throws. And judoka don't go to gyms, they go to dojo. Not trying to disrespect but saying either to a judoka (someone who practices judo) is very 😬.

[@RFRM89]

@@OneFoxTwoFox 🤣🤣🤣 yeah you're right I'm sorry 🤐

[@______7224]

​@@OneFoxTwoFox stop being cringe about it

[@cathoderay305]

I was told, a long time ago, and I'm in my 50's, that you should learn two things: (1) Judo, so you learn what it feels like to be thrown to the ground, how to fall, how to recover, and how to throw other people around; and, (2) Boxing, so you learn what it feels like to get punched, how to recover, how to tolerate it, that you should get back on your feet, and how to throw your own punches. Master those two and you'll be formidable.

[@bobymox]

Maybe instead judo wrestling would be better.Judo depends on cloathing gripes.

[@LegendJoe3063]

​@Krugmatikwing chun better than boxing? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 nice joke🤡

[@geroutathat]

Judo has one big flaw, i just have to take my jacket and top off. But there are a few jacket wrestling techniques, the most popular used to be Irish wrestling, Judo was invented and has a lot of the same throws as Irish wrestling, but goes for submission rather than pin. I think getting kicked in the leg is important to know too.

[@LegendJoe3063]

@Krugmatik ok show me any proof of that bc i can show u FAKE WING CHUN FRAUD MASTERS GETTING WHOPPED AND EXPOSED. 😂

[@LegendJoe3063]

@Krugmatik shall i saw you how MMA destroyed your so called imaginary self defense BULLSHIT USELESS WING CHUN. 😂

[@joshuavann9347]

I am really impressed with these comments. No bashing, just respect and appreciation for the art.. Well done guys 💯

[@TS-rb2zl]

Yeah, heaven forbid someone disagrees with you. That wouldn't be appropriate in the modern world.

[@lifeisgood9789]

nah. fck the lying arrogant gracies.

[@PigeonDumplins]

Yeah I actually infact disagree

[@shikaotewarrior]

That's because... no paid actors here.

[@chrispee5786]

well i wanted to hate lol..... that bjj guy got subbed pretty easy to be a ¨black belt¨ it not like he was supplexed and went out.

[@demetriusjones5665]

The setup was beautiful. Note he controls the hip toss hand until dude tries to fight for it then alternates smoothly to an armbar. Flawless

[@saliiczar]

Realistically one solid judo takedown on concrete is more valuable in a real world fight scenario compared to a BJJ submission. If you have a chance to learn both, start with Judo.

[@pdzbw]

shit imma get mah ass whooped on grass rip

[@roachwerks3043]

judo origin was originally made for killing an armored samurai with no weapons

[@user-mf2pm5sl6z]

コンクリートで投げられたら息が出来なくなります😭　危険です😅

[@DWish808]

People should do whatever interests them. It doesn't matter what they start with. The exercise and training from either one... or boxing, kickboxing, etc. are all better than sitting on the couch.

[@Character_Limit]

I disagree. If you want to get into martial arts for self defense, wrestling is the best one to learn first.

[@Carelock]

A highly technical Judo player is something to marvel at…

[@Ibeatmyson24]

You don't play martial arts

[@TS-rb2zl]

He's also BJJ. Don't believe everything you see.

[@danoliver3470]

Player? Its not baseball buddy they fight

[@Carelock]

@@danoliver3470 You obviously never have. A Judo practitioner is known as a “judo player.”

[@nornornornor9204]

@@danoliver3470it’s funny watching people know nothing about a subject try and correct others

[@Phurzt]

That type if scramble is exactly what high level combat is all about.

[@ShadowTwister28]

Hugging and grabbing isn't high level combat, looks like they both would get knocked out if someone wanted their jaw to meet their hand. In a real fight, all these grapples would be Muut. Simply for show, not even real combat. Who the fuck finds hugging and groping to be intimidating or spectacular?

[@1stbadgamer389]

@@ShadowTwister28the Roman’s, the Greeks, the Spartans, the Persians, and every country that created a wrestling team after the Greek pankration became the Olympics. Hitting people in the face is great but when you slip or fall or get knocked down it’s beneficial to know how to get up quickly or to snap some legs while you’re down. All fighting has value only a wimp who gets clocked easy doubts fighting styles. Guarantee I know some old tai chi head that would would you water style😂

[@tanyatucjer]

If there was a scramble, it was purely one-sided!!! The dude in the blue was completely outclassed!!! 😮😮😮

[@fortinovaldez4342]

#Wrestling Wrestlering and Judo are almost the same. I think jaja😂 but a wrestler that has learned Judo is a monster 💪🙌🐓

[@tanyatucjer]

@@fortinovaldez4342 judo is Japanese wrestling.

[@WhatDayFlops]

That arm bar was sick 🔥

[@ML-lx4su]

On a hard surface, that match is over about five seconds faster.

[@askiieszz]

Not unless someone is wearing a big ass gi on the streets

[@GreyCerberus]

Winded 9/10 times 😅

[@freedom_born]

​@@askiieszz Your shirt will do just as good

[@_honestly_7015]

​@@freedom_born Good thing i never wear clothes 🗿

[@freedom_born]

@@_honestly_7015 Your chest hair will do just as good* (?)

[@goatseinthedarkness]

that arm transition after the throw is flawless

[@sstills951]

Look up Tom and Jerry nonoplex splitty halfback if you also want to see something nonsensical.

[@Therealtrilldill]

@@BillyCarrington-d3tmid

[@harrystevens3096]

Yes flawless

[@BillyCarrington-d3t]

@@sstills951 Goofy bich. You're profile pic is a female dog so I'm addressing you as such.

[@bigbrudda96]

@@sstills951look up special needs black dwarf bondage painful if you want to see something crazy

[@911Salvage]

BJJ guy hit the ground like a deadweight.

[@bmsuperstar1]

Judo and wrestling are dangerous skills. Imagine if this was concrete pavement. Nighty night, maybe forever. BJJ is ridiculously funny compared to these two combat sports.

[@icewolf6954]

​@@bmsuperstar1 well the judo fighter is also a BJJ fighter the video is misleading

[@brodysievers5163]

@@bmsuperstar1 right but after buttscooting to you, Mikey would tap you in what 45 seconds optimistically?

[@bobbys1308]

​@@brodysievers5163 mikey would get his head stomped in if he did that on the street.

[@bmsuperstar1]

@@icewolf6954 The video is not misleading. He used his JUDO skills to slam the other guy to the ground. In real life you're done after that. Besides, you need way too much time to deal with a single untrained opponent by using BJJ. It's extremely counter productive in self defense, especially against multiple opponents.

[@yuzu.222]

I gotta start learning them judo takedowns... nothing quite like judo throws

[@bobbylewisfdl1166]

Man that technique and finish was sublime

[@phylipin1]

Bjj fighter have a worst guard😅.

[@cleveland9598]

Then a mf

[@josephschmidt1751]

Imagine that shoulder toss on the concrete. Guaranteed game over

[@M-Myrtle-R]

Only if you hit head first or if your a wuss..😂

[@idunno4real]

Ye, judo is forbidden on the street we’re all taught that. Death is a certainty one wrong move and you’re a killer and in jail

[@casz7098]

​@@idunno4real nothing is forbidden on the street.

[@stinkestfinger]

Nothing is forbidden in a street fight. Just because you think you're barred from doing something, doesn't mean the other guy thinks that. Everything is fair on the street, no matter what you've been led to believe.

[@idunno4real]

@@casz7098 true NGL. But judo is not to be used in offense , there is a reason we use Matt’s, break fall, gi, etc. respect for life, unless your life is threatened I would never use my judo in a street fight over pride. I k ow my pride can get someone killed or land me in jail. So only when I or my family is threatened will I ever drop your ass on concrete with standing seonagi

[@nabucodonosor-d4k]

That is the real Judo. He has very good NeWaza regardless of how he learned it.

[@johnathonlivingston7573]

Exactly. Judo is a complete martial art, including strikes. Little known fact. It’s just that the strikes are extremely dangerous and lethal.

[@Alexander-uz8qk]

He was also a brown belt in bjj at the time the video was taken, he is also a top fighter as well. So when it comes to one or the other both have their uses in many situations

[@billhartman5120]

​@@johnathonlivingston7573 if judo is a complete martial art why did the black belt in judo bother with learning jui jitsu. He's also a brown belt in jui jitsu. The details people always leave out or don't know. Of course the judo player has a huge advantage in throws but don't forget he's also a brown belt in jui jitsu once it hit the ground

[@hilmanic28]

@@billhartman5120Judo also has comprehensive ground game bro..

[@johnathonlivingston7573]

Most people are familiar with Judo throws from seeing it in Judo competitions. But Judo has ground game, submissions, and even striking. BJJ’s ground game came from Judo, although BJJ more fully developed and favored the guard. The Judoka likely crossed trained because a lot of Judo schools emphasize throwing for competition over ground game.

[@IrregularPineapples]

judo for sure is one the most ruthless and practical sports -- definitely the top martial art in ruthlessness, practicality and efficiency

[@p.l.diablo9864]

Bro manhandled him like he was a sack of potatoes. Incredible flip.

[@BoxingLegends2024]

Like Khamzat did to Holland

[@thefartmachine3017]

Love how you can see the guy say “fuck” as he he gets up from the submission

[@Dashersacct]

Best part lol

[@patrickdominguez_NV]

Hahaha, I didn't see it until I read your comment. Hella funny

[@RichyRich2213]

Get your ears checked and maybe pay attention to the ref. What you heard was the referee say STOP

[@Dreem_man]

По русски слово "Блять" звучит первым в начале ролика. 😂

[@ralphanderson988]

​@RichyRich2213 hey genius he didn't say he heard it. If you watch the guy in the blue he clearly says "fuck" as he's getting up. It's called reading lips. He's not talking about the ref

[@Beriririi]

Huge respect to the bjj guy for not dragging his ass

[@HughWoo]

He’d have to bring a 🔫 to that fight in order to win 😂

[@MrDjfrankwild]

Exactly, he knew what he was up against and still went toe to toe

[@Kulah-SS]

Which one is the BJJ guy?

[@tiborzkarate1]

@@Kulah-SS Blue gi

[@garythompson8545]

​@@Kulah-SSthe one that got whooped

[@anthonywallace319]

Man, that inside step for that judo throw was so quick and perfect.

[@johanhenriksson6382]

Judo is beastmode. Trained a lot when I was younger. It is so effective in close combat.

[@TS-rb2zl]

One on one, yes.

[@ralphhathaway-coley5460]

@@TS-rb2zl Not necessarily true, especially if you have been training for 'contest Judo' rather than 'club Judo'; club judo being more pure kata based.

[@kipchika5989]

@@TS-rb2zl most fights are one on one

[@Abdullah_Chill]

Judo guy was all over him. Had no chance. I’ve been thrown a few times, takes a few seconds to get your head right.

[@LeeOswald944]

Rag dolled him

[@balooojeffersong4234]

Not on a padded floor lol. Bjj guys are whimps

[@zato6226]

On the street you won't get up after a throw like that. Not a few seconds.

[@Abdullah_Chill]

@@zato6226 Yeah I can defo see that. After a good throw, I can see people becoming very compliant after that.

[@AgentGrimShorts]

@@balooojeffersong4234 Except... the judoka guy IS a bjj guy too, lmao.

[@Apesta8]

The way Judokas bring you to the floor is beautiful and subtle, almost poetic.

[@stevec1788]

You need to revisit the dictionary

[@ReneMcLaren]

Judo translates to Gentle way

[@rumengabovv]

Yep, the subtle-iest way to fold someones clothes with them still inside

[@Apesta8]

@@stevec1788 my bad Dr Shakespeare, English isn't my first language. A friend of mine has a theory about people like you «The Grammar Bullies»: The end up in Hell making the hardest dictation for all eternity🤣🤣🤣

[@mmedrano21]

Nothing subtle about that. He was aggressive AF

[@alexpaulk9364]

That went EXACTLY how I thought it would. Lol

[@fawziyusof4361]

Growing up learning traditional taekwondo, we've always been told, kick hard, kick fast and end the fight. There's no time to fly and jump around like an idiot. Don't ever let anyone grab you and if you see the sky, you're screwed. None of us cared to take the takedowns and locks seriously until we had an open sparring match against judokas. We got the shit knocked out of us hard one of us actually shat when he was slammed. Needless to say, we bucked the hell up after that.

[@txddyfarquh69]

😅😅😅😅😅 it was the "shat" part for me

[@bobbybird9433]

I did taekwondo as a kid. It was utter shit

[@fawziyusof4361]

@@bobbybird9433 in today's context, I have to agree that you're right. There is no resemblance to what I learnt and what I see nowadays.

[@crunchynetto6979]

why taekwondo emphasis so freaking much in kicking? what happened to hands? 😂😂

[@fawziyusof4361]

​@@crunchynetto6979 That's a good question. Sadly, I can't answer that though. I was taught to use my hands. The amount of conditioning we did to our hands were ridiculous.

[@EfenTyson]

I can tell that the Judo guy was extremely good at bjj as well. He instantly defended any submission threat & executed the stm bar submission so perfectly, that most Black belt BJJ guys wouldn't be able to do the same. Perfect technique, setup timing, explosion, execution. If he was ONLY a Judo champion, he would've been submitted after the toss. That's why BJJ is so lethal in combination with wrestling or Judo & nowadays also striking only because top MMA guys are also extremely good at BJJ and wrestling. It's been over 10 yrs since people could dominate while being horrible in one of the main fight skills. Boxers or kickboxers lost the easiest vs BJJ specialists, and wrestlers would also loose, but since MMA always required striking due to starting on their feet, it was a little harder to beat a great wrestler who had great striking, if they can defend takedown and avoid for the fight to go to the ground. But that's two specialists so at first even best wrestlers lost easily without the ability to beat someone with striking, so they would take down everyone and when they faced a BJJ black belt, they got submitted right away. Thats why it's called MMA, even though certain skills are more effective and it also differs on weight classes. Heavy wright's are much harder to take down, so a viscious KO striker, only needs to be great at defending takedown and if he is the best with striking, he can be a champion. Similar to Francis N. In lighter Wright clases, when it's a lot harder to KO someone due to less powerful strikes, then the fightet requires to be a specialist in as many combat ways as possible.

[@dane4265]

Jujitsu gets many of it's submissions from Judo, that arm bar is the first thing I learned in Judo. MMA has boiled down to the most effective moves, Striking and ground work, it's why Sambo works so well.

[@-SayWhatAgainMF-]

TLDR but I feel you bro, the combination of the two is the only correct answer. In the end, the Judo guy was just the better fighter regardless of what discipline he's from

[@mckendrick7672]

He's may be skilled in BJJ, but I don't know that this is demonstrative of that. A throw into armlock transition is a very common one in Judo, often taught very early on, and he's probably practiced this hundreds or thousands of times in a Judo context. It varies country to country and club to club, but some places have more focus on groundwork in Judo than others. His BJJ experience may have helped him to control the situation better than if he did not have it, but it's certainly not a highlight from this match.

[@robertgerner4231]

Sorry you don't need BJJ to defend against it any upper level Judoka would do the same thing without BJJ experience. you all forget BJJ came from Judo.

[@lendondain1]

You realize judoka are taught groundwork (newaza) and submissions, as well, right?

[@MrDanmjack]

No break fall from the bjj guy. That must have knocked the wind out of him.

[@ML-lx4su]

It's been my experience that if you throw a bjj guy in a match, you get about three free seconds before they recover.

[@zato6226]

Because they don't know how.

[@dubsbarry9963]

Gotta slap that mat!!!

[@EpicBenjo]

Yeah, I’m surprised by that. I remember the countless hours to doing repetitive break fall practices on the mat by yourself, to the point where you don’t think to do a break fall - it’s a reflex.

[@eknick]

@@EpicBenjo if he done the break fall he wouldve lost the grip and a chance to take back

[@DouglasGomesBueno]

Obviously I use skills that work in my body and style never in my life I will pull guard but BJJ on the ground are very useful, Judo Takedowns are very useful too and Wrestling stamina are useful.

[@0749Rockystar]

I was half expecting the BJJ black belt to immediately pull guard and lay on his back.

[@whyis45stillalive]

He’s not a Gracie. 🤣🤣🤣

[@zeepfles]

I think judo is waaaayyy underrated as a combat/zelf defence sport. It has so many moves that are good in a real fight

[@danemarjanovic2415]

It's not that judo is underrated, it's BJJ that's highly overrated as combat/self defense art.

[@bikerboi1983]

The issue with judo is it's not very aggressive in lower grades. Bjj on the other hand, you learn how to do a lot of dangerous stuff early on.

[@gallinarabiosa]

Find out once and for all: BJJ is only Kosen Judo (originally called Kano Jiu-Jitsu), brought to Brazil by masters Mitsuyo Maeda and Geo Omori.

[@Algojo]

True..if I'm not mistaken, the original jiujutsu is actually only a part of Judo.. ​@@gallinarabiosa

[@blankexpression2u]

aikido is the master way

[@LittleBunnyKungFoo]

The Judo practitioner brought the agression - Id love to see a full set from these two

[@marcosgonzalez4207]

People use to be confuse about BJJ and Judo BJJ is judo, so it has throws, is not a super special, on my two BJJ academies, we used throws The reason of this confusion, is because Judo competitions follows the traditional japanese pattern of entering and finishing, meanwhile, the BJJ is more similar to wrestling So if a Judo got to the ground against a BJJ guy, he will be lost... nah, is a lie, because he trained practically the same martial art, because BJJ and Judo are Kano Jujutsu with a different name

[@tjread4199]

The throw and the transitions to get to the arm bar were just beautiful

[@wcc1212]

They really were.

[@Theillist1]

That 'hip toss' would knock anyone out on concrete.

[@justinsmith4562]

Only if you hit your head.

[@madsulrik5rs]

​@@justinsmith4562 Evident that you don't know what you're talking about. If someone ragdolls you like this unto concrete, you're done.

[@vivelachocha2751]

@justinsmith4562 nope. That onto the head on concrete could kill not ko. The way he hit the ground with no break fall if that was concrete he'd be making a whole bunch of man moans

[@longshanks7157]

​@@madsulrik5rsno, most judo throws cause you to land on your shoulder or back, not your head

[@longshanks7157]

​@@vivelachocha2751nope, see above

[@Williamb5926]

As a practitioner of goju, we call that 'air time' you rethink your life in those moments

[@ZenEndurance]

I went flipping airborne in football practice once and landed flat on my back so hard, it knocked all the air out of me and nearly knocked me out. I woke up with the team in a circle looking down on me like a movie scene when they film the inside of a huddle. It was comical how landing that hard stunned me like a car crash dummy. lol.

[@pinecone9045]

First I've read of Goju. I know black belt taekwondo and she says never heard of it, others have said the same. I took Goju classes long ago for about a year. No one knows about it.

[@JerkyMurky]

That throw was clean!

[@tylerbrandon2280]

Respect to the BJJ fighter for actually taking him on and not just sitting on his ass

[@aks10008]

Mickey

[@DoggosAndJiuJitsu]

Why? Judo’s only notable skill is winning the toss. If sitting is all it takes to defeat an entire sport then I think that says enough.

[@mangekyohoh]

these days, judokas have an unimaginable inferiority complex towards BJJ, surely because their sport has run out of steam. but know one thing my crybabies, 90% of judoka black belts are twisted by jjb black belts. most of you are average in throwing and have no level in newaza. don't compare yourself with Jeff who is in the top 10% of judoka and a jjb black belt.

[@PadreMaronnolo]

@@DoggosAndJiuJitsu do u even know that judo origins from jj? So u would know that the floor fight is equally deep in judo

[@DoggosAndJiuJitsu]

@@PadreMaronnolo I do know that. So please explain why the fight is over when with an Ippon or two Waza Ari. No ground game required. No sub required.

[@zltg.mn0ng99]

Very straightforward and efficient with the moves. All movements executed flawlessly

[@jizim8947]

Judo is probably the only martial art I've ever actually used on the street and it was very effective.

[@armanmartikian]

Not only that, but also judo is the only martial art I know that looks the same in the streets as in the movies too

[@joshbrookes6439]

Same.. Although it wasn't technically the street, it was high-school, inside outside nearby around, on the oval blah blah blah

[@ncruz591]

Democracy manifest….you know ur judo well

[@alec7083]

He was a good uke for

[@jonnysith]

Lol bullshit.

[@ogscran2920]

Most smooth judo 1v1 I ever seen

[@user-gh8wt2zi2n]

That judo shoulder throw was beautiful

[@FrancisHaggai]

The smiles on the other players tells me they couldn’t believe this either

[@gyanlama9328]

Bjj gayest martial art Judo has to win

[@ryantoddgomez]

That inside turn OMG

[@boogityhoo7452]

Players? Is this a video game or something? They are called combatants.

[@michaellowe5980]

​@@boogityhoo7452 in bjj and Judo contests they are called players.

[@Boondocksaint1PSN]

That was a beautiful throw and finish. It is not vs anything just a guy who understood the arts very fluid.

[@mrmei]

Bro went Paul Phoenix mode.

[@Eduardo_Pavez]

That's actually one of the cleanest Ippon Soi Nages I have seen so far in my life.

[@MrDanmjack]

Yeah that was as tight as that gets.

[@ifitwasmeitwasyoutoo7963]

The finish was not so great, there are many better examples

[@Sam-uf4zp]

2 by 4 or crowbar works to. I personally am to old for physical combat so my choice would have to be a 12 gauge. 😂

[@korygray2128]

@@Sam-uf4zpRespect lol

[@Memeshollanda]

​@@ifitwasmeitwasyoutoo7963I agree but if you finish it like in judo you give up your back

[@tls56]

That throw was an absolute thing of beauty 👌

[@ICantBelieveItsNotJesus]

I was on the Army Taekwondo team in the early 00s. We would travel around Korea teaching taekwondo to troops and putting on shows. In 2005, at Camp Stanley Korea, I met a katusa that was some kind of world champ in judo. He absolutely destroyed the whole team. To this day I have never seen someone manhandle grown men like that. It was truly incredible.

[@taka9351]

テコンドーには無理

[@Brian-bc8ds]

Taekwondo? LOL

[@ICantBelieveItsNotJesus]

@Brian-bc8ds yup just taekwondo. It's required that all soldiers stationed in Korea attempt to earn a belt. Something about an intermingling of cultures. I was super athletic and could do some nifty kicks and tricks so they asked if I was interested. I had never taken it before. It was an awesome experience spending 8 to 10 hours a day, 5 days a week for a year of my life dedicated to taekwondo.

[@BUTTA170]

@@ICantBelieveItsNotJesus that sounds awesome

[@lendondain1]

My judo dojo also taught taekwondo classes. Once you reached a certain rank in either judo or taekwondo, you were allowed to join a Japanese jujitsu class. When the taekwondo people would spar with the judo people during jujitsu class, the judo people would destroy them. Every. Time.

[@Deimos7_13]

That arm bar was CRAZY quick

[@richardhenry1969]

Usually the guy scooting on his butt is the BJJ.

[@brianrahuba6919]

Yeah, some real self-defense right there .

[@palerider2020]

That how Brazilian men get a Brazilian

[@kevinarevalo4747]

Can’t be thrown if you’re already on the ground😅

[@archerverse13]

Seems like someone has black belt in BJ

[@JohnDoe-zj6xf]

​@@palerider2020 😂

[@tanyatucjer]

Ingenious... literally brilliant! Off shoulder extended hip roll!!!!! Not even expecting it!!! Pure poetry!😢😮😅

[@robertgerner4231]

Called Ippon Seoi Nage ( One arm shoulder throw) not a hip throw

[@realmmarque6906]

That is possibly the best Ippon Seoi Nage I've ever seen. Perfection👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@theallenwrench990]

They are both BJJ Black Belts. One is also a Judo Black Belt.

[@gregharte9050]

That arm swap was so smart, dude was defending his left arm on the ground and he immediately swapped to the right.

[@BronzeCactusorBronzeCaktus]

Fun especially because the throw was an ippon, and the judoka didn't even hesitate in continuing to the hold/lock

[@tanyajohnson606]

That throw was 🤌

[@PrestigePhotog]

Love it ! Well done !

[@damianzieba5133]

That was really nice, that the bjj man didn't just sit down

[@Just-trolling]

Thos3 cowards

[@peterduncan8161]

Jiu Jitsu is ground fighting try and keep up.

[@GonzoTehGreat]

​@@peterduncan8161Yeah, but you usually start a fight standing up, unless you BJJers crawl everywhere? 😂

[@fisherthegoat]

@@GonzoTehGreat That's really only a thing in BJJ competitions. You still learn takedowns in Jiu Jitsu it's just that in a lot of the bigger competitions you're not penalized for being on bottom. The whole "BJJ GUYS CRAWL ON THEIR ASS" thing is kinda blown out of proportion.

[@GonzoTehGreat]

@@fisherthegoat I've practised both Judo and JJJ for several years, but not BJJ, however I'm aware they ALL teach take downs. Unfortunately, some BJJ practitioners try to exploit competition rules, which unsurprisingly reflects badly on their sport, especially now that fights are often recorded and shared on the Internet

[@MrRednexus]

BJJ: we are the best Judo: you know we made you

[@NickWixx]

The judo guy is a brown belt in bjj you dork.

[@NickWixx]

They teach arm bars in Judo ? WTF are you smoking ?

[@Dokgo22]

​@@NickWixxat the time of the clip judo practitioner was brown belt in bjj

[@AlFa-xy1rg]

@@NickWixxthey do, even feet, leg and knee ones but they are not allowed in almost all judo competitions because it’s easy to ger carried away especially with flying knee bars

[@PotatoL001]

​@@NickWixx Yes actually. Bjj is judo with less takedowns and more back work.

[@justsomebodythatlikesyou-kq1ju]

Remember judo is not a fighting art its a defense art

[@troyberg6248]

"Use your opponent's strength against him." -- Kano Jigoro

[@Tyler123-h3e]

You can "cobra kai it" and use it as a fighting art.

[@MrCmon113]

"Self defense" is fighting. "Self defense" without fighting is just power fantasies sold to people in useless seminars.

[@Pulsonar]

There’s the reason why Judo is a respected veteran of the modern Olympics. Fair play to BJJ guy though he probably knew he would get whacked without resorting to typical BJJ ground hugging tactics. BJJ was a proper standup guy 🙏🏽

[@iamwaffles965]

Respect to both for not starting off pulling guard 😅

[@doctorbootstrapjohn]

as a bjj practitioner, pulling guard is gay.

[@theoteddy9665]

​​@@doctorbootstrapjohninstant loss imo.. imagine a bar fight and bbj guy spreads his legs for an invite😂😂 yes its gayyyiiii😂😂 on the other hand throw other guy on his head is badass

[@poorsam9173]

Ippon baby! What a classic Judo throw.

[@AfloatFob]

I said it when he hit the mat😂

[@sqooot]

You have to take a minute to realize how fast the guy in blue got his shit rocked. Going from “oh shit were scrapping” then to “oh maybe I can recover” to immediately “holy fuck I can’t breathe and my arm is in this dudes chest and how’d his calves get around my neck???”

[@rdoubleod2086]

In seconds is crazy

[@Soul-Clutch-Man]

Like a fucking serpent!! It was so sick to watch

[@bradforester3635]

I love that ( Got his shit rocked) 😂

[@dierandomdie]

The short is less than a minute, so it shouldn’t take you a minute to realize he tapped out fast

[@AngelusDoyle]

It's an armbar.

[@kevtkw3369]

That was a thing of beauty, well executed.

[@Erhuero]

Fear of a good Judoka is the beginning of wisdom.

[@RandallColvin24-7]

"I don't know you...That's my Purse!!!"😂😂😂BH

[@mgcmail2002]

LMFAO! A lot of people may not get that but I do! 😂😂😂

[@user-ot9fb5ly3d]

Bobby hill lol

[@realfaithlife2104]

His timing was impeccable. It’s not often you can spar against someone equally elite and catch them off guard. Fantastic job!

[@tobiasrietveld3819]

Not timing really, blue simply is way too relaxed in his stance and grip.

[@hero-kun2314]

I like this. This is like Father vs Son battle and I'm all about that

[@marcellocruz3017]

Respect to the BJJ guy for not flopping straight to guard

[@ZedzDed311]

And then crab crawling, scooting on his butt all over the mat, and motioning for the opponent to come get him

[@stevemeisternomic]

It would not have made any difference

[@marcellocruz3017]

@@stevemeisternomic it wouldn’t, just tired of seeing it every other match.

[@northofmainstreet7281]

Judo was like don't worry we'll get on the ground when I put there.

[@emmanmiclat7839]

Clean throw, and armbar transition smooth af

[@iamtroy7149]

Bjj is reactive and analytical Judo is aggressive and opportunistic. They're both effective. So Streetfight? Depends. Judo is better for quicker takedowns then run, Bjj will allow you to remain and literally kill your opponent😂😂😂

[@kashedbowl3893]

He wasn’t ready for the death grip on his Gi.

[@iandavis-fj2ty]

The great Don Frye was asked why he never trained bjj , his reply , I got a black belt in judo , why would I want to learn watered down judo ? Love Don he was a beast .

[@user-ok7yl2ym5n]

Cool quote, but I’m not sure it applies to this video since both guys are world class bjj professionals

[@iandavis-fj2ty]

@@user-ok7yl2ym5n hi , think about it , two bjj guys , one wins with a judo throw ???

[@travissnyder8277]

That must explain why Judo lost. 😭🤡

[@iandavis-fj2ty]

@@travissnyder8277 judo lost ???? Touched a nerve did I boyo ???

[@iandavis-fj2ty]

@@user-ok7yl2ym5n think about it , two bjj guys one used a great judo throw to get on top ??? Sorry to burst your bubble but bjj does have flaws .

[@Ifoughtpiranhas]

I remember someone asked legendary MMA fighter Don Frye why he didn't learn BJJ and he said something to the effect of "why bother, it's watered down Judo."

[@Sabumnim666]

Oh Yeah spot on.

[@OGGrilledcheez]

💯

[@paulflores9137]

😆

[@alchemymartialartsuk]

If you knew the history of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu you’d know the art itself stems from Judo, and is actually advanced Judo, the evolution of Judo if you will.

[@panterano69]

​@@alchemymartialartsukadvanced Ne waza, no judo

[@blkgodisfurious3258]

He is so composed and straight to the point. 💯

[@hnjahnjah]

I trained Judo for about 10 years in my youth.. I hated it, mostly due to my dad having insane expectations but the sport is absolutely amazing.. The fights are decided by the tiniest of "errors" your opponents make and it's basically chess just with gravity... I knew he'd own the BJJ guy in a stand up fight. On the ground it would be a different story and much more in the favor of the Jiu jitsu fighter as its mostly based on grappling, fulcrums and finishers/chokes, but the took the small "error" his opponent made immediately and capitalised with a finisher of his own. Amazing stuff.

[@situbusit9547]

That takedown was flawless

[@justinsmith4562]

Its called a throw, not a take down.

[@situbusit9547]

@@justinsmith4562 1000 apologies

[@SumilatsFansReadURLs]

@@justinsmith4562 shut up

[@bobbys1308]

​@@justinsmith4562 All throws are takedowns. But not all takedowns are throws.

[@situbusit9547]

@@bobbys1308 I agree

[@GarnetLizotte-qs1mo]

nice been along time since trained in judo i will say it saved my azz a few time

[@DeshazoTheGreat]

lies

[@animaterob]

@@DeshazoTheGreat lol

[@jasonknowles6884]

That was so clean

[@mikemassie5287]

I studied Judo and Japanese Jujitsu, and when you combine them both, you have Instant harmony in a situation!

[@hosseinhazbavi9057]

hi can u please tell me that what is the name of the technique that he did in the end.  

[@DeathCurrent]

@@hosseinhazbavi9057armbar

[@brunoangioni1102]

Juji gatame

[@JLeach8782]

The judo guy is also highly skilled in BJJ so he obviously had the advantage on the BJJ practicioner that didn't know judo. It wasn't nearly fair

[@Archimedes616]

"The judo guy is also highly skilled in BJJ" BJJ or judo ne-waza?

[@marcmarcelmercado8949]

That judo guy never needed a BJJ technique in that sequence. Armbar is also present in judo, it never was fair, the BJJ guy trained all this year to fight a fellow BJJ fighter not a judoka. Very unfair.

[@kipchika5989]

keep yapping nothing is fair in a fight

[@mavtx21]

Respect to the bbj guy not dragging his ass, and going about it like a man. He probably knew he had no chance, and still went through with it

[@CelhinRodrigues]

Man, these judo falls are wonderful👏👏👍👍