Who Had More Impact: MJ or Steph, Paul Visits The Celtics | Episode 5 | The Truth Lounge

Welcome back to another week of The Truth Lounge with Paul Pierce and Jason Crowe. Episode 5 is a SPECIAL ONE. The guys have an honest debate about who had more impact on the game of basketball, Michael Jordan or Steph Curry. Plus, a behind-the-scenes look into Paul's visit with the Celtics for their game vs. the Suns. Also, they debate which Celtics team is better, the 2008 title-winning squad or this years team.
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[@Spartakiss]

The fact that every conversation about greatness includes MJ says it all

[@ralami6183]

That’s not the argument….

[@VIRALCRUNCHTIME]

Steph had my fucking center shooting from half court 😂 I stopped coaching 2 years later.

[@FutureDreamZz]

Lmao seeing Paul take out the paper that’s been crumbled 😂😂💀

[@themanofbx]

😆Old school tech don't fail

[@davemc8021]

You could say Steph has a greater influence on players because his style of play seems more attainable than Jordan’s to the average kid. So a whole generation is working on 3s, doesn’t matter how tall or athletic you are, as long as you can get it to the rim from distance you feel like you’ve got a chance to follow the Steph Curry path. Most kids realized very early that they were never going to fly like MJ, so while they could still be fans of his they couldn’t really try to model game after his

[@goncalosilvapereira6790]

Love your podcast!!! Salutations from Portugal !

[@haqctrix]

Pierce said pippen is more influential than jordan so i want what hes smokin 11:00

[@xthrth1320]

Jordan put the sport of basketballl on the world map , curry changed the way how upcoming players approach the game.

[@whenisdinner2137]

Jordan changed the way the upcoming players approached the game, too. He is literally the reason why coaches and now believe wings as a concept that can win championships. Before Jordan, there was a belief that you needed your best player to be a big man to win. Jordan changed the game more than anyone else.

[@dolo747]

Mj was doing stepbacks and euros in the 80s & 90s watch the footage.

[@williamalston8116]

Before Steph, people were running fast breaks to the basket. Now people are running to the 3 point line on the break; that's the influence of Steph!

[@goncalosilvapereira6790]

There have always been great players throughout the generations and each for their generation who changed the game....

[@kickitfwd]

If I could blaze with any celebrity I might have to go Truth

[@jungleboy223]

Real talk dude so chill and laid back

[@chris-hq2hd]

shocked it's so controversial. Despite all the great 3pt shooting in the past, Steph was the first to start taking 12, 13+ threes per game and the rest of the league has followed suit. most teams are just trying to copy the 2014/15 warriors. The thing about the warriors is, while Steph has no comparison, plenty of guys come close enough to run that same offense effectively, and it is maybe the most important skill in the league right now, so across the board the league is better at shooting threes. MJ's Bulls were similarly amazing and dominated the league even more so, but you couldn't derive a blueprint from watching their team: the ability of MJ, especially, just made it impossible to replicate.

[@jerryrice9023]

Jordan all day .Paul is loco

[@nickma1422]

I agree with Paul in this one

[@Tyweezy84]

Buddy gotta stop showing them daggers in the thumbnails 😂

[@mr.thekidd498]

....Steph has earned the Honor to Carry MJs gym bags.

[@lennybeason1110]

Kids copied Dr.J like they did Magic and Larry and then MJ and then AI and Kobe and now Curry ! The usage of the 3 was increasing before Steph but since Steph is currently playing and he’s the best shooter,Kids are replicating him now but not anymore than his predecessors!

[@jizzzoi316]

I went to the Phoenix game for my birthday and I loved it! 💚 I was heartbroken when we loss to LA in 2010. I’m picking the ‘08 Celts against the ‘24 Celts even though they my boys.🍀🍀

[@scottcollins8481]

Another great buzzer beater was another one that Paul had a hand in. It didn't end a series but it was amazing. Ray Allen at the buzzer for the Celtics vs Charlotte. Boston was down 2, on defense of an out of bounds play for Charlotte, with 4.7 seconds left. The ball was tipped, Paul got the steal and all in the same motion, he found Ray Allen for the game winning 3 at the buzzer. Odds were stacked against the Cs to lose and they found a way!

[@goncalosilvapereira6790]

Larry Bird was a Stoic basketball philosopher ...

[@WillEsCargo]

Paul photobombing the Celtics team photo is hilarious 37:10

[@SaturdayMorning8]

GREAT SHOW!!

[@Miguelj6]

Most influential players ever is A.I. and Curry

[@FutureDreamZz]

Love seeing him go back to Boston dope to see

[@donnyringo7862]

Hope Truth gets toine and other old Celtics on at some point, already love the show

[@JohnWick-fc3vq]

Never was a Boston Celtics fan But Paul is definitely a good spirited dude

[@ViVeriVniversvmVivusVici]

Curry doesn't belong in the same breath as Jord-His Airness.

[@silenceisonfire2099]

I used to say that but look at both the mens and woman’s game … caitlyn Clark is the females curry her whole game is him

[@cephasgandah4790]

Curry changed how players are drafted now

[@bigpoppa6658]

NBA is becoming eligible for everybody now. You dont have to be athletic, just shoot.

[@SaturdayMorning8]

I LOVE PAUL PIERCE!!!

[@CantEditDaTruth]

man paul pierce really one of my favorite people ever dog

[@DGF2]

10:10 - 1000%!! Steve Smith, Grant Hill, Antoine Walker, Lamar Odom, some guy named Lebron, Paul George... all took from Pip's overall game

[@zachariasj2120]

A lot of folks shoot 3’s but don’t have handles, don’t have swag & can’t take away any teams confidence when they have the ball in their hand

[@goncalosilvapereira6790]

I don't know who said this quote "Michael Jordan to win the game, Larry Bird to save my life..."

[@ryankayombya7576]

Pat Riley

[@CantEditDaTruth]

50:59 🤣🤣🤣🤣 unc said he there to educate and can’t lie he educated me. i ain’t know mcadoo was a game changer move like that

[@goncalosilvapereira6790]

If everything goes well the wemby we see now "baby" will give a beautiful twist to the game...

[@ahmedhussein2535]

Paul Pierce is smoking dope

[@DBSPRIZ]

I fw Crowe i didn't think i would at first, but i do

[@FutureDreamZz]

Facts

[@nacka78]

I love this segment: "let's call J Crowe's family" 😊

[@tj8072]

😂😂 every episode u kno it's happening

[@Balraj.G.]

When Detroit Pistons lost to Boston Celtics when Zeke threw the ball in and Larry Bird stole the ball and Dennis Johnson scored the layup! That broke my heart!! 😢😢

[@bigpoppa6658]

Pierce just a vicitim of the moment. D'Antoni and analytics changed the game. The Suns with Steve Nash started this. Bigs like Dirk, Cwebb, Kukoc, Horry, Bosh, Love, KD had the biggest influence on todays players because there are so many bigs who shoot 3s and this has nothing to do with Steph. The rule changes, soft calls, no touching, landing space and the fact that so many bigs shoot from 3s is the reason small players knock down so many 3s but percentage-wise they only shoot 1.5% better than 30s ago. Steph is the greatest shooter, so he just happen to be the best to execute this new playing style. MJ globally is the most influencel player ever. Second is Kobe

[@isiahspencer3028]

I wanted to be Boston versus Miami and the Eastern conference finals again

[@meestaShin]

Ummm....remember the commercials? "I wanna be like Mike"

[@Dkitt1]

@22:46 Can somebody please tell me the move or style MJ introduced to the game that was not already apart of it? Lol, MJ just made DR. J's moves look a little better. DR. J was the real influence.

[@dearshomy]

Steph made it okay for whole teams to allow those long range shots. He isnt solely responsible for things like positionless basketball etc; but he was the face of that movement. Even though mike D should also get some recognition, you need players to execute it same way Aristotle was responsible for Alexander The Great.

[@flyingvguy6833]

I'm with the Truth. The C's all they way baby!!!

[@504CP17th]

Robert Hooray broke my heart I loved C Web and the Kings

[@GodLeeKingz00]

Jordan was the first player to lead the league in scoring and lead a franchise to multiple championships, also the ended the narrative that you needed a dominant big man to win a championship which led to the hero ball era that Paul played in and shooting percentages were low

[@zachcarrow4426]

Hey I love that bald guy Mr. Crowe. Thanks man Thanks Truth Lounge. HOLY BIBLE!

[@Chilzlife]

27:00 i know y’all probably don’t want to continue to glaze MJ but the buzzer beater vs Cleveland…night night

[@winetrucker3949]

Pierce don't know why anyone cares what he thinks...Kobe MJ LeBron defensive & offensive players....Curry one-dimensional offensive player

[@flow7791]

Dig the new set, P!

[@martinmedina1352]

Yall slept on John Wall and Kemba walker most recently..not saying they are the level.of Kobe and MJ but the played 2 way like them but lacked something

[@goncalosilvapereira6790]

under pressure at the last second Larry Bird for me was the best shooter in the league...of all time !

[@drdrew4457]

i get what pp is trying to say about steph but his image has also been influenced more bcoz of social media nowadays....jordan stll had more impact on the game of basketball across the globe without the internet

[@kaydee1485]

Jordan didn't change the game though, the only 2 to really cause the game of basketball to change were Shaq and Curry. People started training and playing different because of them. Even how teams were drafts switched up because of what they did to basketball.

[@VvybzzIntertainment-wq6wf]

Michael Jordan is ''The standard" basketball player for all kids to aim... TO BE BETTER THAN. In whatever it is you choose to do or be. Great luck...

[@SouthSideLj]

Mj "last shot" P 😂😂

[@Rockstar_made1440]

P be spittin facts fr shoutout manu Ginobli

[@ph34poker73]

I said dirk in my head then they finally got to him. Thats P best argument vs Jordan. All bigs shoot now lol

[@Mr22wayyz]

SGA, Luka, Ja, Dame, Lamelo, Payton Pritchard…gotta be more but steph and harden change the identity of point of attack at the point guard spot… MJ was more of Fantasy type of guy to me(couldn’t go left) sooo I’m with the truth on this….and without Dirk they’re wouldn’t be no jokic, porzingus…..WEMBY!!!!

[@ApostleRashad]

Everybody always wants to bring that Steph Curry and assist trust me he could do it but for his team to thrive is for him to to score from 3

[@ztru15]

I’m around kid’s basketball all the time because of my son and I remember growing up, we used to say, “Kobe!” These kids now say, “Curry!” If a kid makes multiple shots in a row, Curry’s name gets brought up. If a kid is making free throws, Curry’s name is brought up. I saw a kid make a three in game and do the “night night” in the first half of the game!

[@whenisdinner2137]

Kids do not say "curry". The shit is not cool. 😂

[@Bighjr88]

So u watch a lot of bad basketball, if u around basketball today.

[@ztru15]

@@whenisdinner2137 they do! 12 year olds and down! Obviously this is anecdotal but I see it a lot

[@ztru15]

@@Bighjr88 no, fundamentals are still taught but I see a lot of kids straight heaving 3’s.

[@whenisdinner2137]

@ztru15 Buddy, Even people who never played basketball used to say Kobe when taking shots into the garbage. Can we please stop pretending like it's the same thing for like 10% of kids to say it. It is not a trend. I still see more kids saying kobe, lol

[@martinmedina1352]

And yall not giving AI the credit to do it with NO no help. Or before that Hakeem with no other Allstars!!

[@datsapaddlin]

I get younger people wanna shoot more 3s because of Steph but it seems like many people also don’t even like today’s style of play so is that really a good thing? People complain about the shot jacking and lack of defense.

[@kaydee1485]

Most of those complaining are the old guys who want players to ram their shoulders into their opponent's chest.

[@alkatone1036]

M.J. all day

[@FlagIsLife]

As a diehard laker fan, I do believe Celtics win it this year

[@monroecoleman9028]

I love dame first playoffs when he beat the rockets for the series

[@Grindhardorstop72]

🤣🤣🤣.I was sickk to 😭😭😭

[@RobertHughes-g7w]

Please tell ur man to get his grill together its 2024 and I kno he can afford it😂😂 . It's hard to watch this when he talks 😂😂😅

[@monroecoleman9028]

11:14 Devin Booker Cam Thomas Jayson Tatum

[@juwanlamoree7567]

I wanna be I wanna be I wanna be like Mike. Paul is crazy. Jordan made the game global. Athletes sign to nike because of mj When mj retired it was who's the next jordan. They compare players to jordan not steph. It's gotta be the shoes money. It's mj hands down.

[@jasond1433]

How are we defining impact? No one has impacted the game of basketball globally more than MJ. Fewer people MIMIC Jordan because most of us CAN'T. Lots of people think they can jack up 3s, so it's easier to mimic his style of play (even tho no one shoots like Steph). From the global popularity of the game, to shoes, to global branding, Jordan influenced basketball far more than other people.

[@Chilzlife]

Trae Young = Mark Price (Steve Nash) with Gilbert Arenas mentality

[@SouthSideLj]

09 Paul Pierce 🐐

[@aceyo816]

I love this show! Lol

[@Juwon1000]

Paul pierce is one of my fav player but you bugging there’s no way curry had more influence, what about the commercials “I want to be like Mike” what about when they said they changed the rules cause of the Jordan’s rules Paul smoking on that good cali pack cause that’s 🧢

[@JahRizza-ee8rd]

Jordan absolutely…if other players like Kobe and LeBron wanted to be as great as him, that means he influenced them. And all the other players that focused on blended athleticism like Grant Hill, Tmac, the list goes on and on…his influence was on them too.

[@TheBatman777]

I’d bet on the Celtics winning it. Definitely worried about the Nuggets though.

[@williamhash1093]

Outside the lines Jordan easily. Inside the lines… Curry easily….

[@worldlfree]

P smoking…I can’t believe what I’m hearing

[@Grindhardorstop72]

Boston in 6 44:44

[@Chilzlife]

32:47 Dfish .04 and I’m a Laker fan

[@isiahspencer3028]

No, Rajon Rondo is gonna be in that lineup👌🏿🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🩸🩸🏆🏆

[@goncalosilvapereira6790]

Michael Jordan released on suspension on closing clock against Cleveland.

[@denniswong4248]

everyone has to pay lebron for royalties for feeding them for a week man

[@junebuggybugg420]

08 celtics over 24 until proven otherwise

[@Chilzlife]

Jordan > Kobe …DBook.. Dwade…Tatum ..Derozan..KLeonard.. Westbrook..AntMan..SGA …all from the Jordan tree of life Started by DrJ

[@SouthSideLj]

Ray Allen 3-pointer

[@jimmyrandle9617]

Ray allen flat-line the Spurs we knew they wasn't going to win gmae 7

[@DBSPRIZ]

Most influential PLAYER is deph Steph literally everyone plays like him now

[@bigpoppa6658]

Hell no. D'Antoni and Analytics changed the game and if so it's Dirk/Cwebb and stretch bigs who changed the game. It's combination, Steph just happen to be the best to execute this.

[@markscott9979]

Paul just be on here say anything lol

[@RobertHughes-g7w]

Curry influenced the ENTIRE league Gaurds, centers, and forwards all shoot the 3 more due to him! Nobody else. Ur boy trippin

[@ReddRoy5]

Paul stay off the hookah.. don’t no body play like steph just cuz they shooting more don’t mean they shooting it like steph.. u gotta have a certain type of team to actually play like steph

[@ivankulinski535]

cool show,Boston all the way !:)

[@1VetsVision]

Paul is so wrong on this conversation it's not even funny

[@ProletarianVanguard]

Nahh nahh my guy's they ain't better shooters than Petrovic who was leading league while he was there few years in FG% and 3pts% with 20+ ppg in early 90s and ws way better midrange shooter than both of them. Y'all just living in the moment and exaggerating because it is NOW or recent common now

[@KobeNJordans]

Thank God for something new and fresh cause the All The Smoke show has become horrible

[@lowellandrews5623]

This what it looks like when someone chasing 💰 to be a part of the narrative

[@monroecoleman9028]

Nobody can copy Eminem but he’s influential that has showed us he’s a bad ( very difficult) person to try to be like so is curry

[@jacaxel2623]

Paul can we get tony allen or somebody man no disrespect but he aint it. Aint hating tho if you keep him bring in a 3rd person or something

[@tscal8669]

Celtics taking the championship this year