Best Player To Never Win A Ring, LeBron's GOAT Comment, All-NBA Picks | The Truth Lounge

Another week of TRUTH! On the latest episode of, THE TRUTH LOUNGE, Paul and J Crowe chop it up about a WHOLE bunch of topics, including the bets player to never win a ring, LeBron's GOAT comment, Paolo Banchero and Luka's MVP case. They also make their all-NBA picks and share an epic Jordan all-star story.
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(00:00:00) - Intro
(00:01:45) - LSU vs. Iowa, Caitlin Clark
(00:06:35) - Julius Randle injury, Knicks
(00:13:30) - Paolo, All-NBA picks
(00:28:45) - Best Players To Never Win A Ring
(00:37:30) - Gil's Comments, MVP favorites
(00:45:00) - LeBron GOAT Comments, MJ
(01:00:40) - End
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[@mahvzilla]

J Crowe is honestly a good pair with you Truth! The ritter between you two is fuckin hilarious 😂

[@jaronw24]

Ritter 💀

[@mahvzilla]

@@jaronw24 lmao ever since Ticket started sayin it i couldn’t help myself

[@DaLeada100]

Who is this dude with the Truth!? He’s valid! Good push back and he lowkey funny

[@ceerez1002]

its his child hood homie

[@DaLeada100]

@@ceerez1002 oh ok bet

[@2bannounced817]

Has better takes than Paul. I swear Paul don’t really fully believe some of the stuff he says.

[@thekiddsean33026]

Dope podcast and respect to Paul pierce for giving his childhood homeboy a platform to speak dude very knowledgeable

[@rafaelraad555]

I am positively impressed by J Crowe. Dude is cerebral and logical with his takes. Not wasted word or information coming out of him. Solid commentator! 👏👏👏

[@qwebb31]

"Man y'all weak, I'm about to hoop" 😂😂😂 bro a fool for that!

[@DaLeada100]

I love the “plane” analogy 👏🏽😂

[@ChanceBarnett09]

J. Crowe the perfect addition! A real hoop head. Knowledge of the game is crazy, at all levels too.

[@Skysthelimit37]

Sprewell he carried the Knicks to the finals and Garnett had a MVP season playing next to him

[@mrtqtran]

"Pablo Escobar"! 😂😂

[@donnyringo7862]

First 4 episodes everyone was hating on J Crowe I look at the comments on this episode, and the people have Turned and dig it! Love that!! Love the Truth and the show!!

[@305Solo]

Facts! Everyone hating because he wasn’t pleasing on the eye (pause) like they’re trying to take him to prom! Always got solid points and counters

[@ashwinsarma4468]

J Crowe dropping real truths today! McDowell's😂 take sick

[@jpesicka999]

Elgin Baylor is the best player to never win a ring.

[@smokeyperception8871]

never imagined I'd see the truth defending bron

[@cherielsanchez6514]

J Crowe speaking facts about the GOAT debate

[@ashleychambers-my2kc]

P took the first 5 mins apologising for whatever he said 😂

[@-crixusdingess6562]

I'm not familiar with dude, but you guys got great chemistry. I'll be watching this going forward!

[@Musthavetrav]

Honorable mention to Lamarcus Aldridge. Had he left Portland a few years earlier I think he would’ve got one

[@shanerobinson925]

Shiiiiiit he left to the 2nd best team in the west they had a real chance if no injuries to Kawhi but ehhhh idk if he beats a lebron/kyrie team in that era

[@BoskoShabazz]

If anything he should’ve stayed longer and become the Robin.

[@cmn225]

@@BoskoShabazzright Dame & CJ needed Aldridge

[@Musthavetrav]

@@BoskoShabazz he was already butt hurt with management and no way he takes that pay cut after CJs rookie deal was up. I wish though, I’m from Portland and we wouldve had a crazy squad 😢

[@fresh2def23231]

Love this pod

[@just-a-kollector1568]

Great Show team! Paul & Crowe is a great 1-2 punch combo. Paul is funny & knowledgeable while Crowe is funnier & knowledgeable. 😂👊🏽 keep on grinding gents.

[@HAMUERA07]

Bro Truth and JCrowe are soo good together I dig these two!!!

[@Easy_Money97]

Yo that Brunson conversation had me dying shout out Brunson

[@rexloss7199]

this show is awesome. real stuff here

[@compete7147]

This was solid hope yall keep this going weekly

[@danielstaystrong]

Yo keep dude. You can just tell and feel the since childhood friendship. Love it with him!! Plus that episode with you busting on him with the watching Ali at 6. Had me absolutely dying!! Good job

[@twizzy585ful]

Hey hey hey...yo yo...that way 😂

[@donb2343]

McDowell's is crazy, but true.

[@je9212]

Charles Barkley and Patrick Ewing, Dominique Wilkins,karl Malone 🔥

[@danacarter4793]

That's an awesome list ,id add John Stockton (the man still to this day has the most assist,and I think he holds the record on steals )

[@nocturne311]

@@danacarter4793 He also holds the record of being the last guy to hang up the short shorts I think.

[@Devooo1k]

That thumbnail is insane tho 🤣

[@g.neptdadaaa]

🎯

[@lavarstubbs3537]

Yo truth wilding

[@ritchcraft1]

I expected a basketball podcast, and I press play, and it's actually a podcast about planes

[@rickyshgootz7972]

Gil combining the conference when he talking seeds..

[@Stonecoldalston]

47:12 Brady going to Tampa was different Tampa already had a solid team that was missing a QB and Brady brought weapons with him

[@11thWoods]

It’s not about what more can Lebron do, it’s what Jordan was… You had to be there 🤯

[@vittiriowashington5211]

Maaaaann everybody know the dynamics with elite yt Hoopers. Even Larry Legend said it 30yrs ago.😂

[@latrellgillett7120]

Paul hating on Brunson 😂

[@shanerobinson925]

This is the first year of POSITIONLESS all NBA come on yall lol

[@CantEditDaTruth]

32:23 he meets the criteria just like isiah 😭😭😭😭😭😭 dog j crowe was cooking today

[@leonrobinson3848]

Charles Barkley or Karl Malone…

[@upgradeyourmindset3265]

J Crowe speaking facts about MJ. Undisputed GOAT

[@thomasd540]

He's a honorable mention 😂😂😂

[@felipemunoz1134]

Jordan ahead of Lebron like this dudes tooth one in front of the other, and nothing you can do about it.

[@Dr._Mink_Coat]

The Bean Team sounds nice

[@Stonecoldalston]

28:19 I’m sure Paul been saying Boston not looking for the past 4 years

[@jefftravis3808]

Also, where's Elgin Baylor, Ewing, Nash (2-time mvp), Maravich, Lucas, Murphy, Dominique, Hill, Stockton, to name a few?

[@zachcarrow4426]

I LOVE HARD DUDES... Shoutout. Yo David! Oe! PSALMS and prophets These celtics teams are gonna be some of the BEST OF ALL TIME! GOATS N BOATS

[@Beanz06]

This year it actually is position less

[@deouzjh99]

Kobe and Duncan both tried to leave at various times 😂 . Sometimes staying in one place just doesn't work out that way , you can't change the bar because of that . If K.Leonard wins in Clippers and then another team next year or a different player comes in and switches teams and wins 5 chips but is a leading man (1-3 option) - they would also be a part of the conversation . Before the Clips , they were adding dudes to the roundtable of goat 😂 .

[@Stonecoldalston]

51:42 this why we need to go by Eras best of their Eras the game change too much to really know who’s the true goat

[@shanerobinson925]

I’m with bro they not on the plane yet!

[@BulkShoeGuy]

Paul come on bro... Help ya manz out. Loan him a 💰... Dentist visit ASAP before gets halitosis if you ain't already have it. 😂😂😂

[@LD-jb5zi]

I agree with P about this Caitlin Clark take

[@Stonecoldalston]

11:36 this a private plane I’m with him

[@Stonecoldalston]

29:16 Reggie definitely not top 5 to never win a ring & you can’t go by position I got Elgin Baylor Iverson Barkley Karl Malone Grant Hill

[@ericanunda]

You can't call yourself the truth and question Jordan. What Jordan did 8n 15 year period is unmatched. Lebron is the lengivity king. He deserves respect for staying healthy and at the top forever. Calling LeBron top 5 is not an insult considering howqny players have played in the nba. Let's appreciate greatness.

[@Stonecoldalston]

9:48 it’s definitely not that type of that plane he not there with SGA and Ant yet

[@Stonecoldalston]

50:23 Paul won’t admit it but J right the Celtics was stacked

[@kevintitianjr9574]

Mitchell is not a snub by the way. He’s only played 53 games. 65 game rule comes into play for that. Haliburton started out strong but after ASG he fell into a slump. Brunson been strong throughout the year

[@Hotobu]

Teeth giving PP flashbacks of the time he got stabbed.

[@305Solo]

J Crowe came with all facts! We all know that Jokic and Giannis have been the best over the last 4-5 years but he put some respect on Luka’s name too! Just because they haven’t kept reaching WCF it shouldn’t diminish what he’s been doing in the playoffs against teams who should be far better than the Mavs

[@claudelucas2383]

Ms Clark is cold … but South Carolina has something to say

[@isedairi]

In discussion about best to never win it, how ca they forget Elgin Baylor? Ok just as I was writing they do mention him and of course, they pause and laugh realizing their mistake! Greay fucking show guys, keep em coming!

[@BoskoShabazz]

Elgin Baylor or Karl Malone are the best player to never win a championship.

[@nocturne311]

Baylor technically won one but he didn’t accept the ring because he only played a small portion of the 1972 season.

[@shanerobinson925]

True gotta be Karl with 2 MVPs

[@je9212]

​@@shanerobinson925 Charles Barkley is way better than Karl Malone in his prime 💯

[@TV1stTime]

BARKLEY TMAC

[@KrispyKleenex365]

Elgin Baylor choked in game 7 vs Boston. Twice… Wilt & the Logo put in work too tho

[@TheGlobalForce]

Gil DEFINITELY has his stats correct, just play the entire clip 🤷🏾‍♂️😂

[@Themosaicsound]

AI and Tmac dontt @ me

[@young-spark]

Malone, Stockton, Barkley, Ewing, VC.

[@Stonecoldalston]

46:35 getting to the conference finals Is disappointing?

[@Christian-jb1nl]

No one cares about MCD team. Kobe's competition much more thorough. He's #1. Carmelo, CP3 and McGrady are the best players without ring. Christian Marron

[@oneofone_1333]

Fax

[@Stonecoldalston]

23:38 Pierce Trippin Haliburton play fell off for the past 2 months so have mitchells

[@figo007tv]

McDowell 😅😅😅😅😅

[@Stonecoldalston]

19:32 definitely Celtics bias jaylen ain’t over Brunson for this year

[@isedairi]

At min 41 a jewel, remembering that Westbrook elevated the MVP bar (Pierce's words) by averaging a triple double to finally earn what he had deserved the year before. Which also reminds one of one of the tragedy's of the NBA, the dissolution of the OKC vs Golden State rivarly when KD left. Many of us believe that that is a crazy and bad important marker in the history of the league. It was the definite cut with the general development of modern basketball (modern= absorption of ABA), when you saw teams struggling for a minimum of 3-4 years and then developing into whatever the hell they developed. And that manifested in rivalries. And well, that rivalry of OKC vs GS promised so much and then it dissapeared from our hands. Its kind of the feeling one has for the LA Clippers. The potential never materializes and we are left wondering.

[@gazanationgaming3940]

Why I thought it was triple bbbs .. on the podcast . We need lavar back no lies .

[@Coachrod215]

Yall do webber dirt everytimme

[@kb5509]

Why would he even be in this conversation?

[@soulinice8664]

Paulo Banchero plays like Tracy McGrady.

[@kenuffff]

i don't think LSU was a villian, i think in the press they tried to do that

[@Stonecoldalston]

Brunson scored 43 tonight and beat the bucks but Paul ain’t got him on any of his All NBA teams

[@isedairi]

I'm in min 6 and they havent still mentioned Larry Bird as 3 time consecutive MVP of the NBA, thought Paul Pierce would say something interesting but he let me down.

[@acs79]

Combine LBJ/KD rings, MVPs, dpoy the list goes on and still behind MJ

[@mattmoses6907]

Im going with Iverson being best to never win a ring

[@Stonecoldalston]

24:45 Knicks definitely beating Orlando

[@mikejano5250]

John Stockton

[@Stonecoldalston]

22:15 leaving Brunson off the list definitely Knick hate come on man

[@Stonecoldalston]

34:06 they never made one finals and him saying they was favored make his case worse

[@busup377]

It’s 1st 2nd and 3rd team. They can make three teams

[@DubAuthentic]

The difference between Jordan and Lebron is that when I watched both I knew potentially Lebron could lose the majority of games he played in even tho he would have a good game. When Jordan took the court I never thought he could lose! That’s the difference for me

[@djsupac7391]

i guess you mean AFTER he got those losses BEFORE he started winning....folks tend to FORGET that MJ had a career and LOST BEFORE he started winning!!

[@markscott9979]

S/o to Crowe he ain’t no yes man to Paul 💯

[@sunsoulg11]

James Harden, Melo

[@cmn225]

for me it's either Chuck, AI, or Penny all 3 made it to the Finals

[@DNTPLAYUKNW]

Paul is a real clown 😂😂😂😂

[@2strokeTEF]

Harden over Reggie miller is absurd

[@jefftravis3808]

Hell no it isn't Neither one of 'em cared about defense, but as much as I can't stand the guy, Harden was much more of a threat to beat you than Miller was. Reggie was a great perimeter shooter, but what else? Harden could score more than Miller cuz he had much more of an overall offensive game, but would also dish out 10-14 assits regularly.

[@user-cy1of7ky5t]

How you leave you out Curry?

[@MichaelTurner-ry1zm]

they dont say nobody name right

[@donnyneedsfools]

Brunson deserves 2nd or 3rd team

[@busup377]

1st team Luka Sga Tatum Giannis Joker 2nd team Ant Jalen Brunson Durant Davis Sabonis Curry Booker Kawhi James Brown

[@van2.060]

AD is a center he and Sabonis can't make the same team

[@rkcurry]

fr tho i think the best ever to not get a ring is Raymond Lewis , the man was givin a whos who of hof legends the work for a decade+ in the summer, told philly if yall cant pay me what u givin doug collins ill see ya ass later, tough, got blackballed, could have been the best to ever do it too

[@rkcurry]

comptons finest

[@Stonecoldalston]

43:13 I do think MJ the goat but to be fair MJ never had to deal with as much talent in the league as Lebron or Kobe

[@rkcurry]

best to never get a ring, every pf in the west from 90-98 lol

[@misane2212]

Charles Barkley Tracy McGrady Elgin Baylor Patrick Ewing Derrick Rose

[@sodapop1850]

50 and 23. But Bill Russell won the MVP that season.

[@bzap1237]

Mitchell over Brunson????? Truth is trippin. Def not pushin P‼️‼️ Mitchell been out all season foh.