Who Is Gythian? The Story of Eleanor & Vincent Olmstead - Borderlands 3

[@HellHell71]

Gythian looks more like what I imagined the destroyer would be than the small underwhelming monster we got at the end of the main story.

[@oblivexx]

On the planet map gythian isnt visible from space.

[@kenketrickfreeman3]

Destroyer was just shown as fraction of the whole I thought

[@zelohendricks51]

@@kenketrickfreeman3 that's my understanding of that as well

[@ArgentoGaming]

@@kenketrickfreeman3 what we saw was literally just one of it's mouths and eyes, in a mortal form. we dont even know how big that mortal form is, let alone the immortal form that was attached to it on the other side.

[@killerkirby366]

@@kenketrickfreeman3also the only Rowan we explode pro them was Becuase tyren asorbed them making them mortal and ungodly weak

[@dogboydom]

I could listen to this guy talk about borderlands all day everyday

[@Tefferino]

Same

[@cqnzr-clipsgameplay5706]

I play as a Siren during this and I kept being called "the false siren" or "The pretend siren" something along those lines. maybe it's a siren

[@dyer4677]

Gythian doesn't have any special abilities to grant immortality, takes peoples hearts, or so forth. Whats special about Gythian is that despite being physically dead it's body still functions thus acting as a giant biological battery of sorts. Think of it in the same way Tyreen absorbed the energy from defeated vault monsters, Gythian has all that juice multiplied to the size of a city and it's just sorta chilling there. The immortality the Olmsteads achieved was from their own means. Vincent through some means fused with the heart, technically letting him live along with Gythian as well as being trapped inside forever. It was Eleanor who made the rings made from Gythians heart and they let the two siphon energy directly from Gythian. Its from this siphoned energy that gives them their abilities of immortality, powers, possession, and so forth. They didn't go mad because that was Gythians specific ability, rather it was probably a combination of their blind love, and partly fusing oneself with the body of a half dead eldritch beast for lord only knows how long.

[@vampiric172]

Dyer gamer moment

[@dyer4677]

*EDITED*

[@SnooksProd]

Honestly I have been waiting for someone to look Into the lore of this DLC. Glad it was you! Your videos are always so well made.

[@Drawnartist]

Well said I also wanted to know a little more

[@HummingbirdSound]

I loved this DLC and all its misteries. I think the planet is another huge Vault, kind of like Pandora (but with another purpose), and it was opened by one of the unknown sirens before the planet was "officially" discovered. Its guardian, the equivalent of the Destroyer, was killed, but the Mancubus, who was guarding that Vault from the outside (kind of like the Warrior and such), is still guarding what's left of it (maybe he even made a deal with the siren and let her open it, or even helped her kill part of the monster for some reason). And the Curse of the people might have something to do with the fact that the monster's heart granted them the most desired wishes of their hearts, but twisting them and tricking them forever. For example, Burton mentions that he wanted to forget the death of his daughter; I think the heart granted him his wish, but as for the rest of the inhabitants, it went too far and made him live a nightmare by always making him forget everything. It looks like that monster was like a very twisted and trolly genie, making everybody who lived near his heart live miserably by transforming their deepest wishes into their greatest nightmares (and prison). OR maybe it is Mancubus who is in controll of those curses. Also, above the planet is a black hole, and the guy from the first DLC who escaped on a rocket, can be found again on this planet. I think that he got into the black hole near the handsome Jackpot and went out this way, crashing on this planet, which would mean that both black holes are actually linked, (or two "sides" of the same black hole). This could even indicate that they are one wurmhole. Pretty interesting, in my opinion.

[@minie7950]

HummingbirdSound dude imma just say a story line like that would’ve been 10000000+ better than what we got out of bl3’s main campaign. but at least we can theorise it as being the set up of this dlc I guess lol.

[@bigchungus6827]

Okay, two problems there. 1. Mancubus isn't a vault guardian, and he doesn't really seem to be capable of fighting. Whenever anything needs killing, he gets somebody else to do it. He's tied to the lodge, and the lodge isn't tied to Xylorgous. It moves around. He's also not evil, but he does seem to know how to cure curses, or atleast his own curse, though he hasn't done so. 2. Xylorgous doesn't have a black hole. That's a permanent solar eclipse of it's sun. The jackpot is also between TWO black holes, not next to one.

[@HummingbirdSound]

@@bigchungus6827 1) He could be a guardian. His nature doesn't matter, there are captains who fight their own battles and captains who make others fight for them, but they are both still captains inspite of their different natures. Same for guardians. So the story could very well reveal he is - or used to be - a guardian. No problem there in my opinion. It is a "what if" scenario, so it could really happen if the writers decide to go that way. I remember having the same kind of conversation with someone right before the third game went out where I was theorizing that Moxxi and Patricia Tannis could be sirens, and that person was insisting that it is litterally impossible because there are only 6 sirens at one time in the universe and it is set in stone and we already know who the sirens are and etc etc. Then came B3's story... seventh siren revealed, Tannis is one of them, and also the fact that males can actually get siren powers. So really, nothing is ever set in stone. 2) The jackpot being between two black holes or next to one makes no difference in my theory. Poteto potato. It doesn't mean one of them cannot be connected to Xylourgos, which could very well have a black hole causing the eclypse itself. As we don't have any information about what causes the eclypse, it could be, especially since we can find that rocked guy crashed on Xylourgos. He couldn't have reached it without a wurmhole, so even if the eclypse is not caused by a black hole or a wurmhole, there must be one nearby. So my theory still stands.

[@bigchungus6827]

@@HummingbirdSound No, your theory doesn't stand. "But it could happen" isn't a theory. Handsome jack could have been a siren, if that's the standard we're applying. There's no proof of Mancubus being a guardian, and black holes can't cause eclipses. That's not how eclipses work. Eclipses are a product of a solid object coming infront of a light emitting sun. A black hole coming infront of a sun would not only completely tear apart both xylorgous and the sun, if it was big enough or close enough to cover up the sun, it would warp the light coming from the sun, so that there's no way the eclipse would look THAT normal.

[@HummingbirdSound]

@@bigchungus6827 Ok, I see it is pointless arguing with you, you simply want to be right and ignore common sense. There was no proof Tannis was a siren, yet I was right there. And there was proof (EDIT: in the form of confirmation from the writers in game and outside of the game) there were only six sirens at one time in the universe, yet the writers decided otherwise in the third game. And don't even get me started on the "sirens can only be female no matter what" subject... This is how theories work. If there was solid proof, it wouldn't be called a theory, but a fact. Theories take the facts and add to them or extend them into "what ifs". Anyway, I don't want to get into a toxic and pointless conversation with some closed minded random person on the internet, so have a nice day. PS: if you want to be correct about science and black holes, then you should know that you couldn't see them at all in real life and you couldn't see anything near them either, so the ones near the Handsome Jackpot shouldn't be visible. Yet they are. Which shows they are taking some liberty with science - duh, they do that with pretty much every other aspect of life in Borderlands...! Which means my theory very well stands and could be right by the standards of the game. Borderlands is a charicature of our own reality - and even of itself, - and owns it; it's not an essay about quantum physics.

[@MrBlue-ci4ii]

When I saw the Dahl and eridian ruins i concluded that they were Dahl sponsored explorers/scientists like tannis that found the dead vault monster and over time got corrupted along with others

[@Someone_Else]

Man, it's always Dahl screwing everything up lol

[@MrBlue-ci4ii]

Someone Else well it was an old Dahl expedition so it was before the eridian tech was fully understood and before Atlas found useful tech but Vincent and Eleanor instead found a powerful vault monster Dahl never did have a good track record on their operations but even they wouldn’t be prepared for this Edit: Dahl tends to abandon everything anyways so they don’t really care

[@michaelknox3715]

I enjoyed this dlc. The base game and the dlcs are really expanding the Borderlands mythos

[@ericqhochuli6004]

Thank goodness for @eruptionfang or I would miss half of it.

[@mikesworld6064]

Of course, as we all know, Dahl as a mega-conglomerate has always looked out for its employees! Isn't that right, Hector? ...or Zarpedon? ...or literally anyone else ever under their payroll? ;)

[@MrBlue-ci4ii]

Mike's World yeah Dahl is crappy corporation to work for they basically screwed almost all employees especially on distant worlds like pandora and now xylorgous

[@fenrisvermundr2516]

It's a good thing I work...ed for Hyperion. Atleast we paid the Employees .05 times the minimum wage.

[@TruthTrald]

I think you missed one point the reason vincent was so fixated was because he was sick as stated in the echo which states that gythian did not cure him only passed his ILLNESS on to his host

[@blacksunserpent]

Except in this sentence he means mortality as illness.

[@TruthTrald]

@@blacksunserpent I considered that as well but if you read between the lines from another log one which is b4 he entered gythian, i believe he hints that there is a secret he is hiding from his wife mixed with the log i mentioned it's not too far fetched to say that he had an incurable illness at the time. Still i may just be reading too much into it

[@devaughnsalter7379]

Every vault monster had a purpose. Remember when Tyreen said they didn't guard the power of the Vaults, but rather are the power?

[@rag3ac334]

DeVaughn Salter and everyone was like no not really

[@tempusmars6272]

@@rag3ac334 I mean they're right to an extent. But yeah. they're meant to guard a treasure inside but I think they have some power granted by the eridians via the vault.

[@autismisuncontrollable4925]

Remind me, who is Tyrene?

[@TrajGreekFire]

@@autismisuncontrollable4925 terrible antagonist from the base game

[@devaughnsalter7379]

@@autismisuncontrollable4925 You have to be trolling.

[@KordellCunningham]

I personally believe that Gythian was one of the few vault monsters that the Eridians attempted to make vaults to imprison them in and assuming that Gythian was one of the very firsts, the techniques to create vaults were not perfected so it may have led to Gythian to escape. It would also explain why guardians didn't exist yet as the Eridians didn't simply made them yet, possibly because they wanted to wait to perfect the art of making vaults before making guards for the vaults themselves.

[@minie7950]

eleanor’s voice actor was GREAT in this dlc. she should’ve been the main villain in the entire game instead of tyreen.

[@TupocalypseShakur]

Keith Silverstein (Vincent's VA) sounds great aswell

[@Wog-yu9gp]

For real

[@TheVoltarerXyz]

@@TupocalypseShakur ooh zhongli

[@bethourekt6361]

The red text on the Oldiron weapon says: "They bound the ones they knew of. There were more." Maybe that line is a reference to something else, idk, but to me it seems to refer to the Eridians and the Vault Monsters. If Gythian is the Eater of Hearts, and the Destroyer is the Eater of Stars, do all the vault monster enjoy eating? Cuz if so, I feel like I have a lot in common with them lol

[@sebastienbusque2312]

It honestly feels like the Eldrazi from Magic: the Gathering. One (Ulamog) devours matter, no matter if it is living or dead. One (Kozilek) warps reality itself. The third (Emrakul) corrupts the mind and body alike, inspiring terror.

[@Nob911]

Well there's the rampager and graveward they don't eat

[@minie7950]

tiget2013 my guess is the only vault monsters that have an eating motif are ones powerful enough to reside in vaults that encompass an entire planet. the destroyer’s vault takes up pandora, and there’s a theory that gythian’s takes up xylourgos considering how huge it is. but the rampager’s vault isn’t that big and neither is the graveward’s. so I assume gythian and the destroyer are of the higher ranking monsters while as the rampager, the graveward and the warrior are lower.

[@falconlord7811]

@@sebastienbusque2312 excellent parallels. I love the eldrazi and their eldritch horrors

[@soap7029]

In hearths desire (second fast travel) there are papers that say the enemies can grow back their hands (tentacles) and Xam and Tom killed 16 crew members.

[@BlackdragonTheShadow]

I feel bad for who ever had to count the bodies

[@einbaumstein4435]

In the first holo log Eleanor mentions that they have been chasing its name across the Galaxy. If they are the first to discover it how come they chased its name across the galaxy. Someone musst have been there before.

[@matthewolson2308]

good question

[@brandonuzumaki]

I guess it was Dahl, there's one of those "digital paintings" in the library showing a Dahl ship first encountering Gythian, and he's still alive in the picture, hovering over the planet, they probably killed it too.

[@noahwalton4763]

My theory with the lack of guardians, the enemy design, the link between the tech and biology, and the fact that every beast has a purpose is that gythian is the supossed creater to oppose the destroyer and how the guardians where made

[@adamriley6190]

there’s no Vault on Xylourgos, just the vault monster, who escaped his vault prison and fled/terrorized his way around the galaxy, until dying on Xylourgos (mystery, but maybe because he was too far away from Eridian tech)

[@richardmorgan9635]

Dude not enough people talk about the exploration and lore in the bl series this is awesome dude

[@riskitz1354]

So Tyreen and Troy never thought to leech Gythian?, the second biggest vault monster we've ever seen? I know it was widely believed that he was dead but even his beating heart would be a lot of power to leech

[@infinityzer054]

Since gythian can sway the hearts of people...they might have become simp magnets.

[@pauljordan0203]

so even onto this day, the Dahl Corporation's ghost STILL haunts the galaxy.

[@MikeSmoovee]

Your lore videos are absolutely insane. Id watch 10 hours of you talking about Borderlands and that still wouldn't be enough thank you so much for all your content

[@flammingmess874]

Well, it seems Gythian has the power to control creatures maybe the eridiun made Gythian to control the other vault monsters. With that being said I guess that their work on Gythian had to stop when they realize the destroyer can't be controlled and maybe that what Gythian original purpose was, a weapon to fight the destroyer but they must have been in a rush or something when building Gythian vault and they probably left the door unlock. once again I'm currently going off guessing, and the reason they didn't leave guardians because they knew they could control Gythian like the warrior, no need to leave guards when the prisoner obeys the rules. Now the way Gythian died was probably hyperthermia, I assume the weather on the planet was nicer or there was a device to make it better, so when the planet either A) went into a cold age, or b) the weather machine broke/malfunction, it sent the planet into a frost age and Gythian couldn't survive the cold and perish. With all of that being said this is a theory and if you get to this part, thank you for reading my rambling and I would like to see your thoughts on it

[@rebewtinydino2572]

I did like the dlc . they should put gage on sanctuary

[@josethehorribletroll5634]

Gythians power might be to control the people who come in contact with it, at first it extracts the empathy and compassion of its victims before making them loyal and psychotic servants. Gythian died because he didn’t have the hearts (empathy and compassion) of living souls to feed on after the Eridians became extinct, all the life on the planet was that of the Gaurdians, who had been attacked by Gythian after he realised they were a threat, thus explaining the lack of Guardians at Gythians vault.

[@sarahbell8128]

This is great. I have the hardest time following borderlands storylines.

[@oblivexx]

Gythian froze to death. Came out and said Holy Shiiiiiiit!

[@lordredman6137]

Can I just say I love all the lovecraft refrences

[@infinityzer054]

“His heart still beats, his heart still bleeds”

[@XR3peater]

Gythian is literally the borderlands version of cthulhu if I spelt that right 😅

[@mimictear6788]

You didn't. But don't worry, nobody can.

[@SG-qi5jg]

Ashley Wilson He did though

[@DaOlLuLe]

@@SG-qi5jg No one can pronounce, spell, or conceive Cthulu's real name. That's the reference

[@SG-qi5jg]

erasmus gold Oh

[@devinthedoctor]

Yea I feel some love craft vibe to this DLC

[@astrono07]

I’m still curious about the big honking hole in the sky above the planet. Was it where Gythian was imprisoned? Or is it something else

[@r4wb1rd]

It's a black hole - the counter part to the one next to The Handsome Jackpot ... this is how (spoilers) Max Sky managed to get to Xylorgos :D

[@Ecstasy-91]

r4wb1rd oh man thanks for the explanation I was so confused about how Max sky could get from the handsome jackpot to xylorgos because they are far from each other but this explains it again thank you

[@bigchungus6827]

@@r4wb1rd No. Max himself never says that, and the star above xylourgos is a permanently eclipsed sun, not a black hole. The planet description clearly states that. Max literally just held his breath for a really long time. Plus, the Jackpot is stuck between two black holes that have very clear accretion discs (something that black holes that small shouldn't have, but w/e), which the mostly normal sun around xylourgos doesn't

[@johnsojka92]

That was very helpful, EF... Thank You.

[@madjohnson1179]

I still don’t understand what is happened to the normal civilians like why do they have black eyes and why are they cursed. And the Mancubus, he’s kinda special, there is an echo log where he tells Eleanor that her Githeon powers don’t work in the Lodge. But there are no answers for it or i did!’t find some

[@PlebNC]

I believe he is a reference to Lovecraftian fiction. I've never read Lovecraft's books but Manubus' name appears to be a combination of man (as in mankind) and succubus. So he lures mankind in to feed on their souls. The trap being The Lodge and his hospitality. He seems to want people to stay indefinitely and implies the Lodge has an unlimited amount of rooms. It's unknown if Mancubus is an eldritch being or simply a servant of a greater power. The Lodge itself may even be the eldritch horror. It's unlikely we'll get more information. 1. Mancubus is a side character so unless he gets popular we're unlikely to see him again. 2. Good Lovecraftian horror is based on the source of the horror being unknowable or imperceptible and fear coming from that ambiguity. This is why if a show/game shows Cthulu as a physical being in the show/game, they're doing Lovecraftian horror wrong. In my opinion.

[@flammingmess874]

A to sorta jump on the whole lodge unlimited power statement there a crew challenge where you destroy statues and if you go into the wine caller you'll see what is basically a cathulu statue and you get done with all the challenge the statue will talk to you and it somewhat says that "oh I thought you were mancubus wanting to make an offering" so maybe that's a vault monster with powers of basically curses and the statue is a conduit for the powers to mancubuss and the "radiation" of it seep out and afflicted all the people nearby while also being a force field to keep gythian power away

[@fenrisvermundr2516]

@@PlebNC Pretty much the mere concept of Lovecraftian Entities is enough to send the most sane man to the depths of insanity.

[@lewispatton6550]

Thank you. I was having a hard time making all this lore info make sense

[@dominik4666]

Well, clearly Gythian has a very pretty Lovecraftian aspect to it It isn't tangible, it's powers are implied to be way beyond understanding, that could be the reasons behind the "Curses"

[@dillenbeck53531]

Interesting - I always thought The Lodge might have something to do with the cursed (Mancubus Bloodtooth seems to always be tempting people with hearts desires and offering them to stay in The Lodge... forever); however, on the final run you see the Bonded and the creatures in Gythian's stomach fighting, so maybe Gythian is the source of the curses (and why MB also has the eyes of the cursed) and is fighting to free itself from Elanor and Vincent.

[@lungshenli]

I wonder how the heart contains the power. It seems like its not in its flesh but rather those rocks/crystals. So maybe we‘ll see a third powerful substance, created by the Eridians. Eridium is all through the Series and Moonstone enhances the guns infused with it. Will „Gythianium“ become its own thing?

[@confusedcat7992]

I’m still curious on what mancubus is capable of. A man of mysteries for sure at the moment

[@mistermann4163]

From what i gathered from this is that Gythian seems like some sort of organic communication lines between people. And that when Gythian was imprisoned in the vault with whatever data it had bouncing in its system which corrupted it from being isolated from it's purpose. It became desperate enough that anyone or anything would do in order to somewhat keep it's purpose relevant. This next bit is a bit out there, but since the guardians were possibly around it when it's body was fully functional, Gythian kind of was starving which lead to most of is functions shrinking to the point of seeming dead to the guardians in which they left to go and aid in the protection of another vault. And that lead to it being able to nab whatever it could get to feel whole again.

[@vladyvhv9579]

One possibility is that Gythian was created by the Eridians to combat the Destroyer and turned on its creators. It's possible that the area the lodge is on was an area the Eridians were able to put a sort of nullifying energy field on before trying to lock the monster in the now destroyed vault. But Gythian could have been too powerful to contain in a normal vault and broke out, resulting in it being "slain" by whoever. Likely, its entire body is not dead, but in stasis. It may have taken centuries for the heart to actually start beating again. The Lodge may have been constructed by the Eridians to care for any who were tasked with making sure no one opened Gythian's vault. The Proprietor may either be another construct, or it could be a position handed from one being to another, similar to siren powers.

[@infinityzer054]

Huh....never thought of it that way.

[@erickchristensen746]

I will come back to this video after I finish the dlc

[@wdma87]

Very cool idea doing story setup without spoiling the story conclusion

[@MistaEnzo]

Might be similar to Tyreen leeching the vault monsters. Except in this case the vault monster is still technically alive corrupting the minds of those trying to harness its powers.

[@thehealerofagroupp4nd422]

Perhaps Gythian was a byproduct of the Destroyer made by the Eridians. Like Tannis mentions no one knows why they exist, but they serve a purpose to protect the vault. Maybe Gythian was an earlier stage of the Destroyer, but ended up being too much to control, so the Eridians left it developed in a different way given its size and somewhat passive nature unless its been provoked. Edit: It also reminds of the Warrior, as it was predicted, The Warrior can be controlled by whoever opened the Vault it comes from. And Gythian's power is almost the same thing to some degree.

[@richardmetcalfe920]

The destroyer wasn't made by the Eridians. Its an Eldritch Abomination that ate the stars, hence it was sealed within The Great Vault.

[@thehealerofagroupp4nd422]

@@richardmetcalfe920 Im not saying they made it, im saying they probably tried making their own by trying to replicate it. As far as im aware, they made the Destroyer, I could see Gythian as a sort of project in a sense to replicate the Destroyer, given the mass size and anonymous lore, and seeing as there are lore and such left about the Destroyer, I would imagine they would use its dna or something since Eridians could have had an idea to have Gythian as a stalemate to rid the Destroyer.

[@kingzweiiii2923]

I feel like what could have happened was that during gythian’s imprisonment it was killed. It could have happened when it was being placed into the vault or shortly after it was imprisonment it broke out and was slain.

[@MrBlue-ci4ii]

King Zwei III yeah I think the ancient eridians were probably studying it and found it too dangerous so they terminated it after it escaped from the vault

[@abnfrostedkid8330]

Salvador was able to leave that place from the end of bl2 final dlc to bl3 dlc2 before the wedding started

[@mixmastermurphy]

Lol. That little scamp always gets himself into trouble.

[@abnfrostedkid8330]

@@mixmastermurphy he is🤣

[@gotzn0name478]

Really enjoy your vids. Do you have a lore video of the mega-corporations in borderlands?

[@fumikagetokoyami.]

I find the ending of guns love and tentacles a sadly happy ending one marriage of true love coming to a brutal end by the hands of the vault hunters and another marriage of true love being brought forth by the hands of the vault hunters

[@BigWheel.]

I thought the marriage stuff was kinda lame, wish it leaned more into the occult aspects, still a good dlc though.

[@thebingthing8421]

Cool vid man! I’ll sub for sure

[@Sam-gr7mk]

I love that DLC and that they didn’t shy away from a gay focused story. Being a gay man myself, I felt a deeper connection with this due to that reason along with just loving borderlands in general.

[@_9_9_9_]

Why Vincent look like Marcus if he were old. Only on the echo cast tho.

[@KageDarkAngel]

I really liked the Wolvens in this DLC. I kind of wish FL4K had a Wolven as one of his partners. Alterations could have been a Prime Wolven with added defense, a Howler which helped replenish shields temporarily, or a Hunter that focused on using ranged attacks... just my wish. The Krich though... they go up on my "Make my skin crawl" list with the Scythids from the first Borderlands game. Gods... they remind me of ticks fused with either a Head Crab or some other kind of parasitical abomination.

[@thothtrismegistus4865]

My best guess why the vault monster was.. killed or maybe put into hibernation. So judging from what I've experienced on the world itself. Xylourgos, it's an icy wasteland with life, though the star the planet once orbited turned into a black hole. Maybe the star going supernova destroyed the vault allowing the monster to be free. Then the sudden flash freeze possibly put the vault beast into a hibernation, suspended animation. The heat from the tidal forces enacting from the black hole to the planet is probably the reason why the planet is now Habitable to humans and the uglies that followed. This is my theory on the manner but there could be a better reason why.

[@kaylinjian1869]

So no ones gonna comment how mancubus sounds like doctor barber from flapjack?

[@DominatorElite4]

Kaylin Jian I thought it did until I found out he was voiced by arin hanson from game grumps

[@redphoenix108_]

Warrior is for killing, sentinel for knowledge...and githian is in my opinion a passive influncer who makes a hive mind...like this.. warrior is the fists gith is the heart...or will if you would, and sentenal is the mind.. They ALL have a poupos... Personally as i stated above the hive mind like feature... If for controling, what does it control? Who knows...it could be a warden for all we know...as it makes sence..its a therory but thats all Anyway sorry if i got giths spelling wrong i dont like typing its name...

[@acemonoxide5249]

I gotta few problems with this first, 1 if the eridians did kill it wouldnt nyriad have mentioned that a vault monster was powerful enough to escape its vault, 2 if it wasn’t the eridians then (at least to me) it could not have been the guardians because I don’t think they would not have been able to handle a monster that was powerful enough to escape its vault.

[@MrSailing101]

I think that Gythian is a Spawn of the Destroyer, a Destroyer Junior if you will.

[@maxfischer8433]

this is the best dlc yet!

[@Nightwing690]

How can you be dead but your heart still beats? How stupid is that.

[@izayahpottorff2009]

Maypay the Judger of Turkey and champagne

[@dextergoodman6446]

I always thought Giddeons power was some form of hivemind/hiveflesh

[@Skullcrusher404]

i’ve seen a lot of Borderlands hate recently and I don’t understand it. But this DLC rocks!

[@minie7950]

Juan Esposito the main campaign of the game sucked hugely but the dlcs are REALLY good so far.

[@Skullcrusher404]

minie why do you think it sucks? i’m genuinely curious cause I played some of Borderlands 2 but never the whole game or DLC’s. But i’ve heard that Its an epic game. Also I will say there are parts of BL3 that are slow and not that fun but why do you think it all sucks?

[@minie7950]

Juan Esposito Juan Esposito borderlands 2’s main campaign was AMAZING, but bl3’s main campaign was just... a snooze fest. nothing interesting other than the boss fights. the story was terribly written. killed off a beloved character (maya) and shoved aside a great character (tina) in favour of one new, terrible character (ava) i also just hate liliths character because she bores me to no end, so I’m happy they least hinted at her being killed off in bl3. so that’s good. there’s also just.... not as much to do in bl3 as you had when bl2 was just released. not as much side quests. gameplay wise though, bl3 is on top.

[@Skullcrusher404]

minie i’ll have to play the BL2 campaign all the way through then! And I do agree this makes sense. I like Maya and Tina is fun with the few interactions you have with her. Ava does seem unnecessary

[@nerezza23]

Maybe the purpose of the Gythian was to bestow eternal life. Going off of the idea that the Seventh Siren is immortal, perhaps this is how they survived for so long without passing the power on.

[@kaptainkoala8476]

It’s also possible that the guardians all died in the process of killing gythean.

[@HafJaf]

Why didn’t Tyreen just eat Gythian?

[@johncampbell8364]

So based on this video and the dlc I played Gythians power is to corrupt ones heart to the core making their will its, making them lose their sanity all in the price for eternal life. This is its only ability left due to its now statue like body.

[@BigWheel.]

DAHL likely killed gythian. Theres photographs of gythian walking around in the dustbound archives and the photos are credited to a dahl expedition.

[@kyleashby882]

Hey just a funny thought what if the seventh siren used gythian to gain true immortality before they were seald away that would make a lot of sense cause he would have corrupted them as a result so thats why we must never find them cause if they get out that monster could wake up and then become the big threat

[@JustMike_Official]

Very lovecraftian. I love it.

[@Jentrasa]

Perhaps gythian is a clone of the destroyer as we know it’s possible to clone it from the presequel.maybe the Eridians made it to study it perhaps find a leg up on the destroyer but it was uncontrollable so it was killed.

[@kraken1016]

maybe typhon deleon killed it

[@danieldavis4545]

I just want a DLC featuring specifically Torgue, Krieg and Salvador all just being crazy sons of bitches.

[@saorse5918]

I love this DLC mainly as it has my main girl gaige along with lovecraftian themes

[@Nob911]

I thought we would fight the vault monster kinda disappointed we didn't like just a giant heart

[@danielscheumack772]

The monster was killed by the last proprietor of the lodge, Mosby. It tried running in the lobby. Shouldn't have done that.

[@barrettkilgore3415]

Long as I get there we’ll see but I got it already

[@burritodoge8450]

Im more curious about mancubus bloodtooth. I feel like he is more powerful than the villain in the dlc. There is an echo log of his interaction with eleanor and he isnt affected by her powers.

[@bhav4908]

hot take, gythians power might have some way to be used to separate kreig into two bodies, one for the psycho, one for krieg. idk borderlands science people make it work pls

[@santi_super_stunts2573]

Ik this is pretty late but Krieg realizes his psycho counterpart actually cares for him and decides he no longer wants to be separated but co exist in the same body

[@ProsperingNerd808]

Man this dlc hit me right in the feels more specifically the string of quests you do with Burt the detective. The last mission almost had me crying. The only other mission that did this in the entirety of Borderlands 3 was the birthday quest you do with Mordecai on Pandora.

[@gabriellockwood2780]

Gythian was connected to the Sirens. BET.

[@muhammeddabash6923]

I begun the dlc yesterday and i thought damn thats an hp lovecraft boderlands dlc that was my first inpression of it was that correct?

[@tylerrousseau3250]

Legit gythian should have been the fecking destroyer

[@ArtofGuilt]

Vincent looks like hes related to marcus.

[@TheJCghost]

I want a video on who and what is mancubus and what is the lodge and why he has a talking cthulhu statue in his basement.

[@oblivexx]

Why doesnt the DLCS involve the Crimson raiders. Also, side note, why is there no plural in all the games. Vault Hunter(s).

[@megatronspit]

Eruption Fang what weapon are you using?

[@BlackdragonTheShadow]

Never understood what it does

[@Zazamanee]

🔥

[@Vintage992]

man i want to fight gythian :c

[@02Ethen]

I expected to kill a giant octopus or see a moving one at least because that's my kind of content

[@PlebNC]

I guess you could say it is the Heart of the problem?

[@02Ethen]

@@PlebNC lol

[@Rand0m411]

Spend your damn tokens!

[@alphtheor.879]

lets talk about scale here, eater of hearts IMMENSE OCTO-HORROR...DESTROYER OR WORLDS smaller than graveward.

[@davidgutierrez8297]

Eleanor is still a better villain than Tyrene.

[@isiahcline5959]

But what about the regular people that have a curse I get that eleanor makes the bonded but those guys are the tentacle people who originally were regular human beings but why do the people who live there cursed and why doesn't eleanor have any power at the lodge?

[@nathanrandomized3593]

The name of the DLC is actually a reference to hentai, just a little fun fact for you there.

[@quasar6493]

Xy-Lore-gous

[@nootynoots6325]

When you enter gythian doesn't it scream meaning he is still alive?

[@batman96160]

So before the eridians were called eridians they were called precursors? (Since Vincent and eleanor never say eridian) or are there other aliens that we have yet to see?

[@TruthTrald]

My guess at the time precursor was something like a placeholder name because they did not know that the race was called eridians. This is most likely one of the first eridian ruins found but was kept a secret by the two(elenor n vincent) from the corporations because they went mad with power

[@LowellOlive-c3x]

Stroman Plaza

[@samuelraytheweirdcontentgu8551]

Maybe the destroyer is the same monster as gythian

[@chenli9778]

I wonder Who could possibility Killed Gythian, Well Typhon killed a Really Big monster after swallowed by it and the vault hunters of BL2 killed the Leviathan after swallowed by it. Could Typhon killed it? Well if isn't Eleanor and Vincent visit these Place that Long ago I would think maybe Salvador killed Gythian, ha ha. At least Salvador has the ability to kill it, if I said.

[@mcafreee4770]

Does anyone know what shotgun he was using

[@johnalddrumph456]

The cure, you get it from the story in dlc2