Who is Jesus' God? - by J. Dan Gill

[@Eclectifying]

How to get unitarian creeds: simply quote the Bible. How to get trinitarian creeds: Use all kinds of terms and concepts not found in the Bible to define a theory not found in the Bible.

[@jesusisthechristthesonofgod]

im tired of seeing trinitarians take the name christian, while christians take the name unitarian instead, call yourselves christians, thats what you are.

[@leenieledejo6849]

And Trinitarians can NEVER defend the Trinity using the Bible alone. They ALWAYS, without fail, reach for quotes from creeds, "church history", idols like Augustine etc.

[@jdaze1]

Its obvious the NT was highly edited after 70 ad. All you have to do is read the OT using a lexicon. People dont even know the difference between LORD and Lord in hebrew and greek.

[@luguetm4864]

To my fellows unitarians, stick on this verse. "yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist." 1 Corinthians 8 : 6

[@Eclectifying]

Trinitarians even use that one to support their theory, claiming that Paul “split the Shema”. *sigh*

[@luguetm4864]

​@@Eclectifying Yep! Because this clear verse is not in their favour they just want to twist it. My answer is : don't let Paul mean what you mean.

[@jdaze1]

All unitarian need to STOP idolizing Jesus. ALL glory, praise honor majesty worship goes ONLY to the FATHER. Matthew 4:10 and HIM ONLY shall you serve. Jesus plays no role other than like Moses, Samuel, King David as human deliverers did. Prophets!!

[@hommerecorder7003]

@@jdaze1 There is a serious difference between Jesus the Anointed ... and Moses or the earlier real prophets like Jessaiah etc... HE WAS CONCEIVED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT iDynamis, in the womb of Mary. A new Adam. ( from heaven) the other anointed ones were begotten of the earth, a man. This unique Son of God, begotten by GOD through the Holy Spirit, is unique in his position and generation, but as the Apostle Paul emphasizes, fully human, the first risen from the dead. Shalom

[@hommerecorder7003]

So simple and clear. Jon 17:3. and yet the majority of Christianity has a hard time with it. I come from a charismatic environment that is already cult-like. The Spirit of God took me out of there. I actually wanted to get to know the Real GOD and the Savior Messiah better. This has become a religious shipwreck. But I'm happy to watch out there But the destruction in families etc cannot be undone. But life goes on. And now More enlightened and with The right relationship with GOD and the Lord Christ. The dangerous problem with spiritual gifts is the enthusiasm with the false KNOWLEDGE OF GOD, Trinitarian constellation. You can see this clearly in the hyper charismatic NAR realms. that comes from the older one, for example Kenneth Hagin Word of Faith movement (or Hinn/Copeland) for example and then the more recent development Bill Johnson. Not every progression is good.! These sectarian movements also exist in Europe. With the role models mentioned...Not everything that glitters is gold. Thanks for your good Words, Pastor Gill. Greatings from Swizerland❤

[@jdaze1]

Moses was a messiah. It simply means anointed. If you are anointed then YOU are messiah of God. The catholic church took the word and made it mean something its not. Just like the hebrew word Yeshua which simply means salvation in hebrew. Not SAVIOR. The NT has been terribly mistranslated and misunderstood by blind guides which has happened even before Jeremiah 8.8 warned us. We must rightly divide the words of truth from inserted lies. Compare line upon line precept upon precept to find the truth.

[@alexayala7940]

Truth is simple..Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ...please read John 20:31 John summarized his Epistle (book). With this verse... It took me close to two years to realize this truth. And now everything is much cleare and itmakes so much sense! Its not a "Mystery"... please study what the jews consider what it is to be an agent and how agency works and how it applies to the Messiah's mission...I feel free in knowing that I have a Heavenly Father that loves me so much that he gave his one and only Son to die for my sins ... There's only one mediator between GOD and man, the Man Jesus Christ.... is so clear..... think outside the box and you will see the Light of God.

[@savemefromreligion]

God is the Father and Jesus is the son is a very heavy truth. Through many centuries of error, trinitarian doctrine has been promulgated. However, I certainly don’t expound upon this truth on my first greeting of a saint if God. That is the measure of the depth of this biblical error. I have found that it is easier to expound upon the Father/Son relationship with a new believer who has never read the Word of God,than it is with a “seasoned” believer.

[@leenieledejo6849]

Your last sentence is so correct. "Seasoned churchians" cannot even read John 3:16 and John 1:1 as they are written 😢 It's so much easier to simply ask a non believer (who's seeking) to read these verses and for them to accept what they say AS WRITTEN. It reminds me of Jesus's words in Matthew 20:1-16 and 21:28-31. Of course in the moment he's talking about the Jews and the Gentiles but prophetically he's referring to those who have been blessed to be introduced to Jesus and the Bible at an early age but who, like the Pharisees and Jews who reject(ed) Jesus, choose tradition and outsource their understanding of Scripture to the so-called "learned". That's why there are "pastors" boasting of being the "fifth generation" in their family to go to seminary etc who DON'T GET IT whilst ex prisoners, ex prostitutes and ex Muslims DO get the Truth about the identity of Jesus. Just as the fisherman Peter did, as he declared in Matthew 16: ‭"When Jesus came into the coasts of Cæsarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying "Who do men say that I, the son of man, am?" And they said: "Some say that you are John the Baptist: some, Elijah; and others, Jeremiah, or one of the prophets". He asked them: *But who do you say that I am* And Simon Peter answered and said: *You are the Christ, the Son of the living God* And Jesus answered and said unto him: *Blessed are you* Simon Bar-jona: for flesh and blood has not revealed it unto you, but my Father who is in heaven" (Matthew 16:13-17)

[@Icemario87]

​@@leenieledejo6849Explain John 1:1?

[@tmcge3325]

Yehoshua is the Anointed....He is given all power and authority. John 3:16 he is the son, Revelation 1:18 he died and Romans 10:9 God raised the very dead Jesus from the dead. Deuteronomy 18:15 & 18-19 and Acts 3:22-26 and Hebrews 1:1-2 kjv. God is NOT anointed, he is not the high priest nor is he a Lamb. Yeshua is all of that including the Good Shepherd....God, God is God.

[@Icemario87]

@@leenieledejo6849 my comment was removed; i asked what's your interpretation of John 1:1?

[@ZeldaVandermerwe-c3b]

I worship Jesus Christ's God

[@Eclectifying]

As Jesus does!

[@jdaze1]

Worship the Father and HIM ONLY shall you serve. Matthew 4:10. From Jesus' own mouth.

[@tmcge3325]

Amen....the very same he worships and will lead us too!

[@kardiognostesministries8150]

@@jdaze1 Worship Jesus (Revelation 5:13).

[@kardiognostesministries8150]

Worship Jesus (Revelation 5:9).

[@randallwittman2720]

While reading the King James Bible you may have noticed that the word “god” is spelled three different ways: GOD (all uppercase letters), God (the G is capitalized and the other letters are lowercase), and god (all lowercase letters). What is the difference? The three spellings of “god” indicate different meanings, which are: god (all lowercase letters): denotes a deity or an object of worship, and sometimes means “judge” or “magistrate.” It is never used to refer to God the Supreme Being. God (capitalized G and the other letters are lowercase): In the Old Testament the Hebrew word Elohiym is translated “God.” In the New Testament “God” also refers to the Supreme Being, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. GOD (all uppercase letters): This refers to the name of God rendered Yahweh or Jehovah. The

[@thebibledecoder5761]

Let me help you out.. YEH-o-wah or JEH--o-vah is actually one of the titles of YEH-shua, who we call Jesus. Jesus is the God of the bible. Period. From Genesis to Revelation.

[@stommper1234]

Jesus has a God. Period!

[@thebibledecoder5761]

Jesus is God as well. Why can't we as Christians understand that? The reason is that the truth is not in most "professed" Christians. Only those who truly are seeking will find.

[@stommper1234]

@@thebibledecoder5761 Jesus’ God is not a trinity. Is yours?

[@thebibledecoder5761]

@@stommper1234 No, my God is One.

[@animatednostalgia5034]

​@@thebibledecoder5761Christ's God is the only God that there is, so that eliminates Jesus from being God. If Jesus is God, then there isn't one God.

[@thebibledecoder5761]

@@animatednostalgia5034 So here’s the problem.. you believe that you understand what the word “god@ means. So every time you see it in the text, you apply YOUR definition to it. That’s why your understanding ends in error. Let me help you out.. I’m the case of the Father and the Son, they are both considered Eternal. The difference is that the FATHER continues to occupy the Eternal realm, where there is no time. Now, in order for the Son to be God as well, we must look at what He is God of. As the Bible tells us many many times, He is the Creator, which is to say.. He is the God of reality. Reality includes time and space, which the Father does not exist in.. because He is outside of all things created. Time and space was created by the Son, who we call the Word and Jesus. Although, he is God of all reality and created all that is and upholds all things by the power of Gis Word, He is not the Father, from whom He was begotten from as His exact likeness or image.Despite the being self-replicated, the original is greater and has authority over Him who came out of Himself. Whew! I’ll stop there. I hope that opens your understanding a bit

[@BrJD-ii4iv]

Beautiful!

[@hommerecorder7003]

Beautifull!

[@architectbiza6117]

thanks to GOD, I worship only one true GOD the father and following the one true Lord Jesus Christ!!

[@alanhales6369]

21st century reformation. God the Father is God. 2 Pet 1: 17. Jesus is God and Jn 1: 1--14. And the Holy Ghost is God. Acts 5: 3--4. Doesn't Dan Gill ever read and believe the Bible. The reason why Paul said Jesus is Lord, and John said the Father is the only true God AND Jesus Christ who you have sent, is because although Jesus is God, He emptied Himself of His God side and became a man and operated as a man. Jn 17: 3 eternal life is known the only true God (1st person singular) AND Jesus Christ (2nd person singular) who you have sent . Two distinct persons in the ONE God. The Bible says those who deny the Father AND the Son as two distinct persons in the ONE God, are unsaved antichrist's. So Dan Gill and other people who deny Jesus is God as well as the Father AND the Holy Ghost, are unsaved antichrist's, and that's a Biblical fact. Hence Dan's ignorance of the Bible.

[@jomerorobia4140]

Peace be with you in the name of Jesus Christ the Begotten Son of God. For me GOD is our beginning or creator. I don't know if some people don't call God to his beginning or creator.

[@thebibledecoder5761]

How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?

[@billjones6131]

The Son was the flesh roll, got the Spiritual roll!

[@thebibledecoder5761]

For the Lord is our defence; and the Holy One of Israel is our king.

[@thebibledecoder5761]

For thus saith the Lord God, the Holy One of Israel; In returning and rest shall ye be saved; in quietness and in confidence shall be your strength: and ye would not.

[@jomerorobia4140]

I think you don't believe what Paul said here: 9 (What does “he ascended” mean except that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions[c]? 10 He who descended is the very one who ascended higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe.)

[@thebibledecoder5761]

In this day, many will be misled by the blind, because the blind follow the blind, because they have no light of Truth in them. Time is short. Come out of these s/c churches immediately.

[@normanmcdermid4257]

Jesus' God is our God, whose name is Yahuah.

[@thebibledecoder5761]

But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;

[@thebibledecoder5761]

But ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you;

[@thebibledecoder5761]

Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

[@eelyeoj5799]

GRACE = 7 18 1 3 5 = 7 + 1 + 8 = 16 AND 1 AND 3 + 5 = 8 FOR 1618 golden ratio. You must do golden ratio in the kjv bible which means you must convert the letters in the verses into numbers A=1---Z=26. The word is simple math problems.

[@thebibledecoder5761]

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Thus saith the Lord, the Holy One of Israel, and his Maker, Ask me of things to come concerning my sons, and concerning the work of my hands command ye me. I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded.

[@katiewarner883]

His maker here, is referring to Israel's maker. It has nothing to do with Jesus. The unloving approach of trinitarians, is what seals the exit for alot of us. "For they will know us by the way we love one another" I sincerely know true love since believing what God says, and what his son says. Not what we been taught to think it says. I say that in love as an Ex trinitarian. May Peace be with you from "God the Father and his Christ"(anointed one by God)

[@thebibledecoder5761]

@@katiewarner883 Let me help you out.. 21Have ye not known? have ye not heard? hath it not been told you from the beginning? have ye not understood from the foundations of the earth? 22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in: 23 That bringeth the princes to nothing; he maketh the judges of the earth as vanity. 24 Yea, they shall not be planted; yea, they shall not be sown: yea, their stock shall not take root in the earth: and he shall also blow upon them, and they shall wither, and the whirlwind shall take them away as stubble. 25 To whom then will ye liken me, or shall I be equal? saith the Holy One. 26 Lift up your eyes on high, and behold who hath created these things, that bringeth out their host by number: he calleth them all by names by the greatness of his might, for that he is strong in power; not one faileth. 27 Why sayest thou, O Jacob, and speakest, O Israel, My way is hid from the Lord, and my judgment is passed over from my God? 28 Hast thou not known? hast thou not heard, that the everlasting God, the Lord, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary? there is no searching of his understanding. Behold, the Lord hath proclaimed unto the end of the world, Say ye to the daughter of Zion, Behold, thy salvation cometh; behold, his reward is with him, and his work before him. Behold, the Lord God will come with strong hand, and his arm shall rule for him: behold, his reward is with him, and his work before him. I can go on and on, but this is sufficient. Let the Truth penetrate into your heart, so that you may know who Yehshu (Jesus) truly was, is, and shall always be. Here's a little more ... In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. 19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell; I truly hope you get it now... You must let go of what you think you know and let the Truth speak.

[@thebibledecoder5761]

@@katiewarner883 btw, the Lord is his first title, the second title is theHoly One of Israel, and lastly we have his third title the Maker or Creator

[@mulugetashiferaw4934]

Jesus is not God , he is the son of God . born of mery , died on the cross , God quickened him from the death , how could be God , yes he is the son of God .

[@davidmcbrine4527]

Yes, God raised Jesus from the dead. Acts 2:24, 3:15, Rom 10:9, Gal 1:1, Col 2:12 AND the Holy Spirit raised Jesus. Rom 8:9-11 AND Jesus raised Himself from the dead. John 2:19-21, 10:17-18 THREE PERSONS, all God.

[@Eclectifying]

@@davidmcbrine4527the difference between unitarian theology and trinitarian theology is that: Unitarians simply quote , word-for-word, how Jesus and his apostles talked about God and Jesus. Trinitarians use Bible verses to put together a theory made up of concepts that are completely absent from the Bible.

[@Eclectifying]

@@davidmcbrine4527and the icing on the cake is the trinitarians accusing the unitarians of twisting Scripture. 🙄😖

[@neweyz3396]

@@davidmcbrine4527 God is a Never CHANGING INVISIBLE Holy Spirit Ghost, Malachi 3:6 , Hosea 11:9 I am the LORD , I Change Not ! Romans 1:22 & 23 It’s men who has Changed the Glory of the Incorruptible God into an image made like Corruptible : ( man ) , birds , four - footed - beasts , & creeping things when God Clearly told us all that He knows NO other God besides Himself NONE ! John 20:17 Jesus Christ Plainly told us all that He has the SAME FATHER & GOD as we have !

[@davidmcbrine4527]

@@Eclectifying You never even addressed the scriptures I cited where 3 persons raised Jesus from the dead, including Himself. These are clear scriptures that can't be denied. How do you explain?

[@euston2216]

The Spirit of Jesus Christ is the God and Father of Jesus Christ.

[@thebibledecoder5761]

That's incorrect as well

[@animatednostalgia5034]

The Bible doesn't say that.

[@thebibledecoder5761]

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Please stop causing more confusion sir.

[@thebibledecoder5761]

So what just happened is that this man started his sermon off by contradicting the Bible. The FATHER is GOD and the Son is God!!! The problem is not with the text, it's with your understanding of what "God" means.

[@thebibledecoder5761]

This man would have lined up to stone our Christ, because he too would have thought it blasphemy when Jesus made himself equal to God.

[@sdwalker333]

1 Tim 3:16 John 1:1;14 Isaiah 9:6

[@luguetm4864]

John 14 : 28 , John 17 : 3, 1 Corinthians 11 : 3...and so on. It will turn into a battle of verses. 1 Tim 3 : 6 most translators agree that the verse says : He appeared (manifested is the right word) in the flesh. Not God appeared and the verse follows " was vindicated by the Spirit, was seen by angels,... was taken up in glory." Can be God vindicated by Spirit He who is the Spirit? (John 4: 24). Seen by angels as they ALWAYS see God ? (Matt 18 :10) Taken up in glory ? God is seated in the glory since the beginning of the word. John 1:1 and 14 The word was WITH God and the word was God. Something can't be with you and at the same time being you unless you understand that there should be a figure of speech in this John prologue. And as such we understand that the word is God by the fact it is the expression of God and His plans. The word reveals God and His plans and this expression of God took form in the person of Jesus Christ. THAT's the reason John concluded his prologue in Verset 18 No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has DECLARE Him. In one sentence: The word is God ( Or represents God figuratively) by the fact it's DECLARES or REVEALS God. That's exactly what the word of any person does. Isaiah 9 : 6 this verse is used by people who ignore the jewish culture at that time. All what this verse is saying is that the child WILL BE CALLED and not WILL BE. It is THE NAME the child will be bearing. It's the theophoric name, it's embeds the word equivalent of 'god' or God's name in a person's name. See some examples below Joel = Yaweh God (Joel was not Gig for sure) Elijah = My God Yaweh (Elijah was not God) Abijah = Yawer Father Hananiah = Gracious Yaweh (Hananiah was not gracious Yaweh even John coming from Johaniah mean Gracious God ) Joab = Yaweh Father ( Joab was not God) Abiathar = Father (of) abondance ( was not the father who provides abondance) And theophoric names goes on in the bible The reason Isaiah 9: 6 is not cited in relation to Jesus in the New Testament is that this verse is a prophecy which Jews including apostles know that it refers first to a Judean king namely Hezekiah ( which means Strong Yaweh.