Who is More Annoying? | Sen Triplets vs. Narset, Enlightened Master | EDH | MTG | Commander

[@owenszeg2695]

What if you called this series “Heads or Tails?”

[@dhost8409]

Much better title, A+

[@olafthemoose9413]

^^

[@crispy2802]

This is very good.

[@Stitchington]

This or That

[@viceverse11]

"Why are you hitting yourself?" - Sen Triplets

[@sethwilson7088]

Worse: "why are you letting me hit you with your hands?"

[@happybrain2674]

Cause you dont have enouth removal xD

[@elipetrou9308]

I hate that

[@Closer2Zero]

i still have a sweet spot in my heart for Sen Triplets, the only Mythic i pulled back in Alara, my first magic set

[@willhibbard6903]

That is a special mtg story I feel we all have with one card or another 👍

[@carloserausquinhoyos3298]

I have a similar love for Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund

[@rickilydickily]

Funnily enough the first Mythic I pulled was Narset, Enlightened Master, in my first Magic set, Khan’s.

[@regaleagle6533]

I traded away my phyrexian metamorph maybe a month ago and popped some mystery boosters and got a new one plus foil sen triplets, celestial dawn, and paradox haze and I just pulled apart my yennett deck because the gameplay was much more boring than I thought it might be. So I basically didnt have to buy any cards but wanted to buy 3. Now I have a Sen Triplets deck and its mean.

[@maxreis9534]

Narset. You can't play your cards if you are dead everytime Narset swings. Seems like nobody plays removal against Triplets. Oh... Targeted removal can't even kill Narset. Triplets is also an artifact which makes it easy to interact.

[@rykersixx]

Exactly

[@idioticavocado9333]

but but if you are tapped out and she sees your hand...there goes your removal

[@MichaelRivera-le3ye]

@@idioticavocado9333 If your tapped out with triplets in the field, you already messed up.

[@Alan-wp9yn]

Dino_Gaming people really need to run more interaction if these kind of decks are in their meta. it’s your own damn fault if you can’t interact/protect your own pieces. Narset is hard to interact with and kills everyone immediately upon swing.

[@MichaelRivera-le3ye]

@@Alan-wp9yn That's what I'm saying. If you are letting triplets hang around for too long then don't be surprised when your cards are stolen. Sen Triplets us a glass cannon, easily removable but very strong. I would find playing against Narset extremely annoying because it's hard to interact.

[@dimirdavid2306]

the real Question was: do you like playing against your own Deck or watching a person playing magic.

[@boppysenpai768]

just play a lot of scetchy garbage :^) nobody will steal your shit

[@Doofindork]

@@boppysenpai768 This. A friend played a steal deck against my Discard deck. "No please, steal my 2/2 rat with an etb effect that has already done its job." He stopped taking my things, and I just made sure he didn't get to have cards in hand. 👌

[@scremingegle1791]

Well see the clear winner is Narset cus ya aint gotta worrey bout em stealing your cards, if your cards are complete trash.

[@Bigballa-po3fm]

Modern problems require modern solution's.

[@theotherguy4478]

One man’s trash is another man’s treasure.

[@noahdaglio9362]

As someone who plays Narset, I always have to try and reassure my opponents that my deck isn't focused on taking extra turns or combats. However, I can totally understand why people find it annoying.

[@lolimmune]

Grand arbiter is certainly more annoying

[@viceverse11]

You put Arbiter as one of the 99.

[@itacsasuke]

Having both a Narset and an Augustin decks, i can confirm that.

[@09Dragonite]

Agreed. I have played Narset into a Grand Arbitor on several occasions. That tax effect is much more relevant than people realize.

[@ActuallyDiogenes]

Arbiter is my main deck :/ It's not stax tho, just pillowfort

[@rylandmalcolm3825]

Im more ok with sentriplets. There's a weird sence of justice to them since they are based around playing cards that are only as strong as what you feel are ok to play your self. Can't be mad about playing that blightsteel when you put it in your deck

[@HungrImp]

I believe Narset is the more annoying, as with Sen Triplets you are still playing magic. And to be honest, this video made me want to built a Sen Triplets deck xD

[@esra3784]

i made a sen triplets deck a week ago, and now suddenly it's appearing here

[@tonyclavelli1228]

"...a ticking time bomb both figuratively and literally..." --I'm pretty sure it's only one of those

[@JDelta117]

It would be interesting to see a head on head battle with the two cards featured. Just a thought for future episodes, and a way to tie them together. Could call it: Weighing the change

[@awfullyfunmtg]

Mitch, maybe consider having for each card a "I have played against X" and "I have played against Y" for the sake of data collection. I somewhat got the impression more people who chose Sen triplets might not have played against.

[@zcpl1727]

Why not both?

[@colonelgreathed1321]

The "don't touch my cards" comment on Sen Triplets summed up my thoughts perfectly. I played against a guy once who ran a "steal your stuff" type of deck. He would take mine/others cards and BEND THEM almost 90 degrees when picking them up or putting them down. The second time he did it to mine I snapped and he immediately stopped luckily. As for a good 1v1 matchup, maybe a "Which commander is the most fun to play against?" between two interesting and/or politics-oriented commanders. I'm still kinda new to the game, but a couple I could think of are Xantcha, Sleeper Agent and Radkos, The Showstopper.

[@sirmegallot3276]

Wow I'm trying to imagine that happening... I'm not a violent person, but i believe I would tell them "if you disrespect my property or someone else's property again I'm going to beat the shit out of you." I would legitimately threaten them, I have some very expensive cards in my decks that have taken me years to acquire. The thing is, anyone who plays the game should understand and respect this. I believe I would go from 0 to 100 in a situation like that and I wouldn't care.

[@colonelgreathed1321]

@@sirmegallot3276 I forgot to mention he was drunk.

[@staren1991]

when playing a game of magic for fun, shutting out a single player from playing is pretty much bullying

[@bram8731]

Shutting out 3 from playing is even worse

[@staren1991]

@@bram8731 no, at the point Narset goes off and people have somehow neglected preparing for it the game is over (and you probably deserved to lose :p ) and you can start a new one

[@MichaelRivera-le3ye]

@@staren1991 Same goes with the triplets. If you neglected to deal with an easily removable card on the field, you deserve to lose.

[@bram8731]

@@staren1991 narset is harder to prepare for due to hexproof and most of the time takes a lot longer than triplets even when it wins

[@staren1991]

@@bram8731 there are several colourless cards that "removes" hexproof though... not advocating hate-cards, but if someone in your group plays narset or triplets I can look between the fingers :p (heck, I even put several "exile card from deck" spells into my deck once to insta-KO people at my table who were playing paradox engine :p )

[@kevinew7722]

To cite a very eloquent and wise person: "Don't touch my cards."

[@solace2354]

Narset by far! Let me play the game please instead of taking a 30min turn. Plus getting your mana fix with Sen is easier said then done.

[@tenswr6469]

Gotta say, I absolutely love the intro. the music hit the spot.

[@earthshatter6142]

Mitch loving all the new content that’s been coming out, including the community in videos is awesome makes us feel more involved in this channel keep it up 👍

[@orsettomorbido]

7:18 Charlie

[@yanjia1777]

Ah this is why I play sen triplets. Nothing tastes better than the salty tears of my enemies

[@Ingvar_the_Red]

As a Sen Triplets player this video makes me a bit salty. Like 70% of the games you don't even play your commander because there is never a 1 turn window and losing them usually means game over. And without triplets you usually don't even steal anything from your opponent, because triplets themselves don't actually have synergy with other cards that steal stuff. They have synergy with pillowfort cards, stax and artifact matters cards, maybe wizards. So if you are going to hate on the deck, at least hate on it for the right reasons. My build of this commander is pretty strong, but also somewhat tricky to pilot. Top Narset decks are usually really straightforward. If anyone wants to check out my build and discuss ideas, it would be a blast! tappedout.net/mtg-decks/eternal-empire-1/

[@jdlazin]

Hey Mitch, subbed your channel recently after catching you on Command Zone and TCC and seeing your recent commander video. I think this segment has a lot of potential, but needs a little something to make it more than you reading comments from other people. Maybe some thoughts from you on the topic, or your personal experience or funny story with the cards, or maybe even something that ties it back to budget. Obviously the first episode won't have everything :) thanks for your work and I look forward to seeing more!

[@jackstone8286]

I just built Narset literally 2 days ago. Have not gotten to play against anyone, but so far it is fun to test. I went superfriends/tokens because I don't care to shut people out of the game. I think it's fine to play other peoples cards, and in fact that affects the power level of your deck for that game. But being able to throw down planeswalkers and make tokens is pretty fun :)

[@jasons9895]

I wonder what editing software Mitch uses, the video is so clean and looks great

[@Kaiser-S0ul]

Personally as someone who has a Triplets deck I know how annoying it is and I have played it.... I want to say at most once this year, perhaps not even once being honest. The reason is a mix of: A. I know it isn't the most fun deck to play against, having your stuff taken isn't that fun, it's got a seriously strong form of resource denial in that it gives you a card, plus that card's effect, while stripping that card from an opponent, which is DUMB. You can even play LANDS from their hand, fixing your mana to cast their spells. B. The only reason I find Narset to be more problematic is the innate Hexproof. The Triplets are SO, SO, SO, SO, SO, SO, SO easy to kill. Literally every color has an answer to them: White can spot remove any form of permanent. Blue can counter them, bounce them, or use things like Pongify. Black has creature removal in spades. Red has direct damage and they have a whopping 3 toughness so Bolt range and dedicated to artifact removal which they just so happen to be. Green even can deal with them for the same reasons as Red, low toughness for fight or the best color for Artifact removal. The Triplets are so ridiculously fragile it's not even funny.

[@blindcommander]

Awesome. Love the new format! Keep up all of the hard work.

[@nicholasstavash7880]

Which is more annoying: Narset or Sen Triplets Vorinclex: hello there

[@Celllsius]

Sen Triplets is my favorite Commander. When you build your deck around artifacts and make them indestructible plus shroud, it’s a beautiful time playing. And people are too focused on Sen Triplets to take out other threats that they don’t see as threatening but are. You don’t even have to take other players things to enjoy playing the Triplets!

[@plewcock2746]

Useful video. Makes me consider what my own decks are like to play against. Some of them win with a long non-interactive turn...

[@billyhoover7031]

Even after watching this, I would still say Narset is worse then sen triplets. My play group has both commanders in it and from experience Narset is definitely the more annoying commander to face, at least for our play group. My play group runs a lot of removal in it so Sen triplets is usually just a 5 mana force removal. By the time Sen Triplets does stick around, everyone is about out of cards already so its less effective. Narset on the other hand can't be removed unless someone basically has a board wipe and board wipes are a lot less common in our group so it almost always sticks. Finally while going off the Narset deck always just does the same thing, while Sen Triplets can be fun to see the ridiculous board states its able to create.

[@matianlong7907]

interesting that nobody pointed out FREE Armageddon(s) with Narset... not just multiple turns

[@Sentai_Sam]

Both commanders are annoying but the more annoying thing is a lack of a Bruna light of alabaster deck teck.

[@Darth_Sithis]

Narset for me personally. 1. Sen trips can be removed a little easier than narset. 2. the big one for me... i have only ever run into 1 sen triplets deck in the 8 years i have been playing edh, So even if Sen Trip is far more annoying to play against i wouldn't really know, but i don't think my one day fighting against that deck was all that soul crushing so eh. I have on the other hand run into plenty of Narset decks. Something to factor in is definitely which one your more likely to run into which adds to the witch is worse .

[@EdneiMonteiroO]

For me is wonderful see a guy who is clearly the threat being hit by its own overpowered cards.

[@MrKarato]

Missed opportunity to call it Heads or Tails to continue the coin motif

[@TheRandomeDud3]

I love this series. Great idea. The most annoying mechanic would need a great battle as well.

[@RebelliousTeddy]

Not one comment about Sen triplets even acknowledged how you could run sen group hug, working with the cards in each opponent hand and working politics to bet others. My Sen deck has zero thievery spells, instead clones, Mana fixing, and enchantments that reward others for attacking that player like impetus series cards. The deck is only as toxic as you make it out to be

[@orsettomorbido]

All the people that lament that Triplets is worse 1) never play removal and 2) apparently they can't play cards during THEIR turns? XD Also, yes, for ONE turn you're not going to play. Narset is an extra turn commander AND it's more difficult to get rid of. To play against, both are bad XD That's why I love playing Triplets. I can use other people's card and still have MY interaction ready °_°

[@123darkdeal]

I still don't understand how people don't realize sen only hits one player just on sens turn. Most commander games are not 1v1.

[@CRIMS0N_KING]

Triplets. Nothing feels worse than losing to your own cards.

[@InquisitorSinCross]

So losing because someone played a game of solitaire is somehow more fun than losing to control?

[@CRIMS0N_KING]

@@InquisitorSinCross IMO yes. With Narset a conclusion usually because apparent after enough extra turns and the table can group concede. With Triplets, you have to be incredibly aware of where each person's cards are and more importantly, the games (at least from my experience) go on much longer with Sen Triplets in control. I know it's a faux pas to go on your phone but you can that with Narset and just check out for a bit. Someone playing solitaire is annoying yes, but at least you're not losing to yourself.

[@Dataloss484]

@@CRIMS0N_KING we have a friend in our group who never concedes and makes the extra turn player play through everything without shortcuts... No group concede possible

[@InquisitorSinCross]

@@CRIMS0N_KING You can lose to "yourself" only if you made the wrong move in the game. Everything else is losing to the enemy strategy and cards.

[@changhyon92]

@@InquisitorSinCross not to mention the rules committee buffing Sen Triplets by allowing them access to mana that is outside their color identity.

[@ErasmusHereticus]

Very cool concept for delving into topics of particular cards, I'm excited to see where you'll take the series :)

[@spartica7720]

The only thing I’ve consistently seen in commander is that people hate when they can’t play their cards. Super overpowered combos are acceptable but if someone causes you to discard or mill your cards they become the target of the table.

[@dezsomodos1314]

The intro is cool with the music. It is nice.

[@TyTyTheShyGuy]

Thank you for putting my opinion in the video :)

[@austinburman2143]

The reasons outlined by people who thought Narset was more annoying is why I built mine the way I did. I aimed for something midrange that could still be shut down. I limited my deck to 2-3 extra turns with limited recursion so I'm not playing 8 turns in a row and with easily wipeable board states. I always ask myself the question "would playing against this annoy me?" whenever I build decks and it has worked well so far.

[@johnkuhfal7171]

You should consider doing a segment on which commander is the best for 2HG. Ive been thinking of building a deck that synergizes with helping my partner as well as myself in the right situation.

[@hylarex3633]

I don't see where Triplets makes you not being able to play at all, it targets only one opponent and only prevent him to play during your turn this is nothing compared to everyone watching the Narset player taking 10 turns in a row ...

[@titanlord2000]

new intro is pretty slick not gonna lie

[@gegenonarwhal817]

Not gonna lie, the old intro song sounded like pron music. Also with all the new and interesting content youve been putting out this is legitimately the only channel on KZbin i still watch every day consistently. Keep all that fantastic content coming.

[@loganbrown7164]

As a person who loves combo and has no problem playing with it or againest it, I hate when a combo takes awhile and does not actually guarentee a win so you cannot just scoop and go to the next game. For me narset is worse.

[@pbbj893]

From what I can tell, Narset comes out on top here for the following reasons. 1) Equipping her with either Hammer of Nazahan or Darksteel Plate (or even just having an Eldrazi Monument) out in play makes here almost impossible to deal with once she's successfully cast. 2) The forementioned cards can all be cast for free from here own ability. 3) Extra Turn, Miracle and Copy target spell cards can potentially end the game from a single attack from Narset. Sample hit: Temporal Mastery, Mystical Tutor, Aminatou's Augury and Repeated Reverberation. Yeah. Lets recap shall we. 3a) Take an extra turn. 3b) Fetch any Instant and Sorcery and put it on top of your library. 3c) Exile top 8 (hopefully getting land drop) and then cast known tutored card + any other eligable cards without having to pay any mana. 4c) Repeat 3c's effect (Aminatou's Augury)... twice. Good game.

[@kingfuzzy2]

They both aren't annoying at all. Disclaimer my opinion may be biased because I've only played against group hug triplets, group hug narset, and an extra turns narsett that whiffed then unkowingly kills themselves to accidentally copying the opponents Rakdos charm too many times.

[@krvys7226]

Just an idea that's a bit of an expansion of this: which card fills a certain function better? The one I thought of is "which is a better treasure producer?" Smothering tithe, or dockside extortionist? One gets you that advantage over time, while the other is just a fast burst of mana.

[@MetalFerno09]

These results prove once more that people need more single target removal on their decks. Sen Triplets can be dealt with basically with any color as long as you have creature/artifact removal. Narset on the other hand.....

[@zephyrgarrettson6473]

Guys triplets is not that bad, just play removal, a simple nature's claim does the trick

[@jwaffles9269]

Mitch you are ALWAYS wearing hats in your videos, we need a top-of-head reveal!

[@brunosoares1500]

Really cool format Mitch, loved it and hope to see more. I used to play Triplets but stopped because it was boring, even when the board worked around to crush me, which turned the game into an Archenemy, really. By the way, are you gonna touch this format one day? I'd love to see it. In my playgroup it works - the occasional stomp considered on both sides, of course. About Narset I remember playing against it once and just conceding midway out of sheer boredom, adding it to my growing list of "avoid at all cost".

[@ValhallasChosen]

I think the difference is, Narset relies on a specific deck build to be VERY annoying. Sen Triplets has its annoying feature built in. Narset is my favorite commander but i run ZERO extra turn cards in my deck, cause that's no fun for everyone. its more of a burn / storm deck and it think its much more fair.

[@ScarFearz]

As someone who played both, people were annoyed at my Narset, but they didn't mind because when I go off, I CANNOT whiff. If I get anything decent in my first attack, I win, I can no longer whiff. It did happen that I got 3 lands and a counterspell on my first swing, I lost that game, but I didn't get a second chance and people played the game they wanted. If I go off, the game ends instantly. Sen Triplets just destroys you slowly. You can interact with it, but win or lose, this game will piss you off.

[@JadenLingerfelt]

At the end of the day, it depends on the playgroup. In mine, Narset won’t stay on the board long, and an initial cost of 6 makes her expensive quick

[@Karsten1]

What about if one of the members of the commander playgroups were to bring a timer, set it to 5 Minutes for example and end the turn if it runs out of time?

[@ekiM2K]

Sen Triplets is my first commander deck, I picked it because I didn't have a lot of cards so I just threw together a bunch of draw spells, counter spells and board wipes, relying on my opponents win cons.

[@sethwilson7088]

Watch narset haters short circuit when you tell them you don't focus on extra turns lol. Love that you're branching out with your content Mitch this video idea seems like a lot of fun

[@LaonRavenheart]

Which is a better combo commander? Arcanis, the Omnipotent or Ghave, Guru of Spores? These are the two most combo-centric decks in my playgroup, Arcanis piloted by myself most of the time and Ghave by a close friend. We have been debating this for over a year and I would love to hear the community's opinion on it.

[@Baehellet]

I have a friend who runs a Sens Triplets deck. It's painfully annoying to play against and he doesn't even take that much advantage of her ability. He just locks out the game with Mycosynth Lattice and Karn the Great Creator making all permanents artifacts and preventing activated abilities for artifacts your opponents control...meaning you can't play the game whatsoever because your lands are artifacts with the Lattice out. If he gets a tutor off and the board agrees that there's no counters in hand we just scoop.

[@chrisgebben2043]

oh definitely narset there's answers for theft which is what the triplets do here's a few that can just annihilate the triplets Homeward path brooding saurian bounce effects like the good old rift Noetic scales (hidden gem in edh) Gruul charm mist meadow witch/Eldrazi displacer

[@jakeapplegate6642]

The only time I felt like I had the upper hand against narset was when I waited for them to crack a fetch at end step and then I beast within their land (on their upkeep) to keep them off of a color that they needed (happened to be red) and I used reclamation sage to blow up their mana rocks (repeatably with wirewood symbiote).

[@connorv3334]

Triplets suck, because it's MY hand, but Narset is harder to deal with, and quite annoying when they have a d20 keeping track of extra turns

[@MrDeathbydying]

Love your content man, looking forward to the next Close Quarters!

[@theflamingzard4248]

The way I see it. What also wasnt mentioned on how annoying narset is the fact from revealing the top 4 and you get eldrazi conscription you basically have a 13/12 (commander damage) annihalior 2 with extra combat steps and extra turns. Sen triplets is only less annoying cause they need lands, artifacts, or any card that sticks on the battlefield in general that allows to tap itself for mana of any color in order to use the players hand against them.

[@Distantone11]

I'm curious about where people would rather face Klothys or Mogis. My friend made a Klothys deck that feels a lot like my Mogis deck.

[@WaveyZRL]

The next one should be who is more annoying : Emrakul, The Promised End or Zur, The Enchanter

[@MichaelRivera-le3ye]

I bet a lot of people have never even played against Sen Triplets.

[@09Dragonite]

Honestly, I've played against both a LOT and own one of them. Narset is basically Jeskai Maelstrom Wanderer in that her entire purpose is to turn your deck into a barage of free spells that your opponents have to deal with, and I love that about playing the list. It is random, and even a bad Narset list can compete at a lot of tables. But I get why people dislike her, it isn't fun watching someone win (much less watching them taking 10-20 minutes to do so or just whiff). I've built in a lot of cards that I like to call "Scoop Conditions" so that if someone is playing against me and doesn't want to wait an eternity to lose, I put the table into a lock that they can't recover from. Sure it is frustrating to the unprepared player, and that is why I always clarify with the table what my goal is and why I have the list built that way. If they don't think these conditions can be avoided or that they can prevent the problem synergies I power down to a different list. I know Narset is powerful and degenerate, so is watching a Maelstrom Wanderer storm into oblivion for 11 minutes. But what I don't like about Sen Truplets is that many lists are built to acclimate to their group metas, and Sen Triplets can take an unfair advantage of that by pretending to be a casual list while actually having a really high potential to be a constant threat through the entire game. At least Narset is only running one creature and needs 6 mana to even see play. Considering both creatures have the same amount of access to ramp through rituals and rocks, Sen Triplets will almost always see the board first.

[@TeaHauss]

I built a janky deck that equipped Narset with the Dragon Aura cycle which was pretty dope, so I'll say Sen (Note: she was part of the 99 in a 5-color deck as a backup fightet in case people ask) I've got a question: Who makes cuter cat tokens? Wasitora, Nekoru Queen or Gavi, Nest Warden?

[@richardcozzuol7452]

Loving the new interactive style

[@lemonnade712]

Me and my friends constantly debate over chulane and korvold, trying to figure out who was the more OP print.

[@billlupo3770]

Im going to say while its a toss up im going to go with Urza as any artifacts you bring can be used as a mana source provided the artifact doesnt come into play tapped as some artifacts do add in Emri and extra turn spells and counter spells and its gg ty for playing

[@ecos889]

Narset she is the hardest to remove and narset turns last for an eternity and then add in even more blasted turns from the turn spells she gets for free and it's like are we dead yet, can we please have a darn turn? The narset player says nope. Also triplets you have double the removal options as they are also an artefact as well compared with the typical commanders that are not Narset and as they are really easy to remove. If your deck does not have removal then sorry you have terrible decks and deserve to be punished by the triplets.

[@adrianlumley8149]

You presumed that someone will always have remove in hand, which is not the case, on the times no one does or if they counter it ONE player can't play magic

[@hare5179]

Fair points. I do have to point out that not everyone takes an eternity to play Narset turns, but I feel you. As a Narset player, I do not think she should have hexproof tbh.

[@thomascollins5622]

Baral vs Grand Arbiter Augustin IV. Which variety of not playing magic is worse?

[@bkrh2365]

The only problem I have with the arguments presented by each side is that they act as though there is only one way to play each deck. Narset doesn't have to be only extra turns and combat, and Sen Triplets doesn't have to only play another person's deck. I've seen and played against lists where Triplets focused on combo and value disruption and lists where Narset fires off stupidly over-costed enchantments and Insurrection effects. I think it's more about the deck builder's interests rather than the obvious ways to play which make a specific card or deck list annoying.

[@mtgmason1551]

Who is more annoying, Joihra, or krenko?

[@lodusrex]

Nice episode! What happened to Boom or Bust? Haven’t seen one since the Zirda/Kenny episode.

[@robbibob6392]

One thing that wasn't mentioned in the video (probably since it's from the perspective of the person playing them) is that Sen Triplets aren't powerfull enough to justify their use since they generate so much salt from other players. This annoyed me massively when I built my Triplets deck, as they would rarely resolve/stay on the board and when they did, I might have gotten like three spell and a land, but then have my 5 mana commander removed and appear to be the arch enemy without actually having advanced my gameplan enough to be a serious threat. It's also not fun to play when everyone is mad at you.

[@leevinen3]

ppl forget the fact that narset also usually brings prison piece on the table every time she swings

[@jaimevazquezjr.89]

I love these topics and discussions. How about what Commander has the most fun or best ETB ability. Roon or Yurok? Orr... Best Zombie tribal commander? Top 5??

[@bigmookie27]

I beat the tar out of a Sen Triplets deck at GenCon...one of my favorite games ever. I was using obscure cards, so they were mostly leaving me alone. I had out Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, then threw out a Kormus Bell and enchanted the Sen Triplets player with Curse of Death's Hold....can't use my cards if you don't have any mana.

[@BigDaddyDirtHog]

People complain about my Triplets until Memnarch and the infinite mana hits. Suddenly the Triplets arent that big of a deal.

[@Avatarbee]

So far I have only played against Narset decks and mostly it seems to be an all or nothing deal. Either she attacks and wins. Or she gets countered or hit with removal (or everyone has a good blocker and the marset deck hasn't drawn its evasion stuff) and flounders around for the rest of the game

[@CeilingNinja]

Narset is in my Kykar deck, not the main purpose but helps with casting a lot of spells to make lots of token friends.

[@jayfeather7676]

The first commander deck i made was Sen Triplets. I remember looking through my cards to find a legendary creature after i learned about Commander. I only found a couple, one of which was Sen Triplets which i remember being one of the first mythics i pulled from my first set. I was like, damn this card is cool and i never actually played with it. So i made myself probably the worlds worst Sen triplets deck and never won a game with it. Coolest feeling ever when i managed to cast someone else's cyclonic rift tho

[@classymofo1059]

I've never played against either of these decks because people are too scared they'll lose all their friends or whatever when asked about them. I don't know what that says about the community or the commanders but thought it was interesting

[@LunarWingCloud]

I certainly was not expecting Sen Triplets to win the poll

[@vivienjoly7617]

Urza is limited because he's monocolored, but the fact that you can have easily 20 mana generators per turn during the end of mid game/beginning of late game and that blue is (with black) the best color for monocolored decks, (especially if you play a lot of artifacts), I think urza is weaker than korvold (because it has 3 colors and sacrificing creatures to gain advantage is OP) but it can become pretty overwhelming very quickly

[@adriancampossuarez1467]

Would enjoy hearing your opinions on the next "Head to head" maybe just before seeing the results.

[@keathdostaler347]

How often are you gonna do close quarters?

[@ehegger]

How about what's a more hated archetype to play against, Mill or Discard?

[@Honkwaddle]

At least with Narset the deckbuilder has the option to not build the most efficient extra turns-style cheese that makes her hated. With Sen Triplets, the actual text itself forces the the strategy that is frustrating to play against.