WHO IS RUBY'S MUM? [DOCTOR WHO: EMPIRE OF DEATH- SECRET IDENTITY REVEALED?! TOP THEORIES!]

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The Confused Adipose

The Confused Adipose

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@Unplugged70
@Unplugged70 5 ай бұрын
Maestro called out that there is "something wrong" with Ruby. She is a paradox. Somehow, she is her own Mother.
@jordanmcculloch1169
@jordanmcculloch1169 5 ай бұрын
maestro even said something about the "Oldest" one, seemingly different than the one who waits?
@Philmaster07
@Philmaster07 5 ай бұрын
@@jordanmcculloch1169 i think its also sutekh, the "oldest one"
@jordanmcculloch1169
@jordanmcculloch1169 5 ай бұрын
@@Philmaster07 yeah It very well could be, she just seemed surprised he was there while then also mentioning the one who waits mere minutes later as if they were different entities If she Knew the one who waits was coming, why was she surprised he was there
@CashelOConnolly
@CashelOConnolly 5 ай бұрын
If she is,then does the Ruby we’re seeing have a belly button 🧐💭(think about it)
@CashelOConnolly
@CashelOConnolly 5 ай бұрын
@@Philmaster07 are you saying Ruby has been intimate with a dog 🐕 😂
@francisbartoszewski2284
@francisbartoszewski2284 5 ай бұрын
I think the Trickstar is her parent because Ruby's song in The Devil's Chord is literally the Trickster's theme in SJA. BUT, I also think that the person who dropped Ruby off isn't even her parent, and that's how they will make it the Trickster but not reveal it this season.
@RichardFraser-mn5pe
@RichardFraser-mn5pe 5 ай бұрын
I have a theory: she wasn't pointing at the doctor, she was pointing at the tardis. Maybe she was trying to WARN the doctor because she could see sutekh wrapped around it?
@charg1nmalaz0r51
@charg1nmalaz0r51 5 ай бұрын
Is that even a theory, i thought that was obvious from the episode. It annoyed me the doctor didnt cotton on to it
@debtaub8981
@debtaub8981 5 ай бұрын
Yes!
@medichampion328
@medichampion328 5 ай бұрын
What if Mrs Flood didn't make Cherry a cup of tea because she simply didn't know how to make one?
@EskoBomb
@EskoBomb 5 ай бұрын
Yeah Mrs flood probably had a valid reason, she was too busy destroying or trying to save the world
@thebird2253
@thebird2253 5 ай бұрын
Maybe Mrs Flood knows Cherry is a Harbinger that’s been waiting on a bed this whole time and that’s why she didn’t make her tea 🤔 jk!
@EskoBomb
@EskoBomb 5 ай бұрын
@@thebird2253 🤣
@rappapolex
@rappapolex 4 ай бұрын
@@thebird2253 i bet she would put the milk in last 😡
@thebird2253
@thebird2253 4 ай бұрын
@@rappapolex I think she would over pour the tea 😱
@edwarddeguzman3258
@edwarddeguzman3258 5 ай бұрын
I think her Mom is the Bad Wolf, Rose when she was merged with the Heart of the Tardis. We know the Tardis is beyond the constraints of linear time and would know that she would be consumed by Sutekh at a later date so she places Ruby in the right place and time to be a a new heart
@cameronmonaghan6883
@cameronmonaghan6883 5 ай бұрын
I always thought the Bad Wolf was it's own entity. A consciousness formed by Rose and the TARDIS, now drifting through the Time Vortex for eternity
@BruhsCookieJar
@BruhsCookieJar 5 ай бұрын
I’ve been wondering how the tardis reproduces as she is a living thing. We kinda see her do so with bad wolf (almost a child of the tardis) and river (who is called a child of the tardis). I’ve wondered is ruby is the child of the tardis as well.
@giociampa
@giociampa 5 ай бұрын
If Susan is Ruby's mother, that makes Ruby the Doctor's Great-Granddaughter, not his Daughter, surely?
@mikaelhultberg9543
@mikaelhultberg9543 5 ай бұрын
Freudian slip?
@EskoBomb
@EskoBomb 5 ай бұрын
The Doctor told Kate Stewart that because he's a time traveler he could have raised his granddaughter before having his daughter. Basically saying as much is the case... meaning that the doctor hasn't had a daughter yet... Meaning that it's possible that Ruby is his daughter. And that Ruby will someday have Susan. Sort of like Amelia pond has River song. It's out of the doctor's timeline sequence of events
@giociampa
@giociampa 5 ай бұрын
@@EskoBomb What the Doctor said I am well aware of, but this conjecture has nothing to do with Susan's parents, just that the lineage is as follows... Doctor > ????? > Susan > Ruby Thus great-granddaughter.
@EskoBomb
@EskoBomb 5 ай бұрын
@@giociampa well I missed the conjecture altogether I guess. Good day sir
@giociampa
@giociampa 5 ай бұрын
@@EskoBomb No problem.
@EskoBomb
@EskoBomb 5 ай бұрын
If it's the Doctor dropping off Ruby Sunday, then possibly him crossing his own time stream may have released Sutekh. Explains why there's another Tardis for Sutekh to latch on to.
@anthonyfisher-7090
@anthonyfisher-7090 5 ай бұрын
What if whoever Is dropping Ruby off isn't Ruby's mam. It could be something where maybe something dramatic happens and her mother is killed or dies straight after her birth. Like maybe they come across a pregnant woman about to drop, when the baby is born the mother dies and says "Ruby road" that feels quite RTD level of heartache
@srijitseal
@srijitseal 5 ай бұрын
"Next of kin" was in a loop in Boom when Ruby was shot, so... Ruby could be her own creator.This and the loop in 73 yards, both point in the same direction.😀
@EskoBomb
@EskoBomb 5 ай бұрын
Low key truths
@susanfreund
@susanfreund 5 ай бұрын
has anyone thought of Jenny (doctors' daughter) Jenny has been traveling by herself.
@amazingpurplegirl0903
@amazingpurplegirl0903 5 ай бұрын
I came up with the Ruby is her mum theory during 73 Yards, because I thought the old woman was Ruby from the beginning
@McMomfaceplustwo
@McMomfaceplustwo 5 ай бұрын
Maybe Ruby is a phoenix and instead of regenerating like time lords she becomes a baby again.
@jamiehutton8659
@jamiehutton8659 5 ай бұрын
I think ruby is a living version of the puzzle box from SA I think her mother is a trick I don't think she has a mother I think that the trickster created her
@Ibalistic_hedge
@Ibalistic_hedge 5 ай бұрын
I think the same, however that would make the trickster her father.
@PhilDrury
@PhilDrury 5 ай бұрын
Despite my previous comments. I just realised. It's not her mother, it's her father. And it's clearly Palpatine.
@willhamidi1618
@willhamidi1618 5 ай бұрын
Thinking about it: Maestro said there is hidden song but we heard the Trickster's theme before the hidden song... Could be the Trickster! Personally, I would go for Susan being related to Ruby considering the family arc and there's been too much focus around Susan this season. Plus, "the twist at the end": the doctor implied that he has a grand daughter before a daughter, my crazy thought is that Ruby could be Susan's mum. Having a knowledge of the future event Ruby was dropped at that church, and the hooded figure tried to warn the doctor about Sutekh by pointing at him. This implies to me that if it was the Trickster he would not try to warn the doctor about Sutekh. So I would rule it out but not completely. There's another personal thought I have concerning the pictures of old Ruby, (and even as seen in Unleashed episode) shows that she has a scar on her face, but during 73 yards we never were so close to see that.... why botter to do this?! We could see more of old Ruby, also strangely in Legend of Ruby, Kate and Unit people speaks in meters, why?! In UK you would normally not use meters to give a distance but yards... 66 meters is 73 yards, the hooded figure could be old Ruby 73 yards away from the Tardis and the doctor. Some sort timey-wimey event happened and the doctor went back a second time on Ruby Road when he disappeared during 73 yards...Could explain why the hooded figure stay away and does not reveal her face.
@liam3791
@liam3791 5 ай бұрын
Two things can both be true at once. I think Susan is one parent, and the other is The Trickster who tricked Susan potentially. But I think Ruby is the Harbinger for Hecuba. Being the Queen of time, you most likely have the skill level to trap Sutekh again. And Susan is Mrs Flood in disguise. Maybe even with a perception filter or something. I don't know, they are just thoughts. We'll find out this week.
@MadBiker-vj5qj
@MadBiker-vj5qj 5 ай бұрын
The use of Metres by UNIT is quite correct, and probably not a plot piece. The international metric system (SI) is the official, legal system for most purposes in the UK, including the armed forces. 68.58m is 75 yards. 66m would be 72.18 yards.
@willhamidi1618
@willhamidi1618 5 ай бұрын
Really, I never heard people giving me a distance in meters. During covid I have never social distancing given in meters including in government's buildings or public spaces!!! For short distances and journey measurement it's imperial not metric, I believe. I also believe that military use both in UK. My believe is that Imperial units are officially used to specify journey distances, vehicle speeds and the sizes of returnable containers (milk, etc..)
@SoulPoetryandOtherWorks
@SoulPoetryandOtherWorks 5 ай бұрын
People born before decimalisation tend to use imperial measurements for distance. I started primary school on the year decimalisation came into force. So I can use inches or centimetres but favour centimetres. For larger distances I was taught metres rather than yards. When learning to drive we use miles an hour and not kilometres per hour. So it depends.
@willhamidi1618
@willhamidi1618 5 ай бұрын
My comment to 73 yards. This episode is in yards. Unit is talking and measuring the distance of old Ruby in yards. Kate the same character is giving the distance in yards. The software that Ruby uses given by unite mesures distance in yards. The same character Kate did not use metrics at all. 73 yards is 66.57 meters exactly. All of a sudden Kate speaks in meters... so yes I definitely think that this is strange. This is a two parter episode, RTD could have use meters instead to build up the mystery. Again old Ruby as a scar on her face, the fact that 73 yards was distance calculated by RTD on purpose, a distance you cannot the face good enough means something... you have lady you do not want her face to be seen closely and you decide to add a scar on her face? Why? Why would old Ruby have a scar on her face?
@lauriespencer4132
@lauriespencer4132 5 ай бұрын
I have a little theory about Susan Triad Technologies. The Dr said that he had the wrong anagram but this had me thinking. I think her last name , Triad, is still relevant. The is the Triad of Memphis : Ptah, Sekhmet* and Nefertem. Sekhmet is sometimes called the Eye of Ra and is known to be strong, mighty, violent. She also is clothed in red, Ruby.
@ShawnGBR
@ShawnGBR 5 ай бұрын
The boots may be a clue that it’s the 13th Doctor, because it alludes to the Bootstrap Paradox (as explained by the 14th Doctor when he explains how he became Beethoven to get the music out to the world).
@EskoBomb
@EskoBomb 5 ай бұрын
Yo... That's good logic
@stupatt
@stupatt 5 ай бұрын
Sunday is the original day of creation! She is a self willed life, the key is Sutekh’s Ruby stone
@samstobo9124
@samstobo9124 5 ай бұрын
10 and roses daughter from parallel world
@subtlegong2817
@subtlegong2817 5 ай бұрын
I like that. No one would see it coming and it’s something RTD would do. Shamelessly and gleefully
@JoshuaSelig-tz6hc
@JoshuaSelig-tz6hc 5 ай бұрын
This one might be a bit out there, but we know that the doctor has had a child admittingly via a clone making facility in "The Doctor's Daughter" obviously he still thinks they died but we never did find out about what happened to Jenny, perhaps, Ruby is Jenny after a regeneration and has somehow managed to wipe their own memory due to a chameleon arch?
@timelordvictorious
@timelordvictorious 5 ай бұрын
I kind of like that theory
@EskoBomb
@EskoBomb 5 ай бұрын
I called this out as well. She's wearing a tank which reminded me of the military garb they were all wearing. Then I realized that they weren't wearing tank tops in that military
@bezirochepolska1295
@bezirochepolska1295 5 ай бұрын
Isn't in this episode ending reviled that Jenny lives?
@joeydeaconblues
@joeydeaconblues 5 ай бұрын
Backing the ruby is her own mother theory (at least for me, so far) is the parralels with the doctor as orphan/refugee presented in this new run. My hope is that'll also introduce the possibility as cannon that the timeless child might be an oroborous loop in itself as a consquence of cheating death on trenzalore.
@EskoBomb
@EskoBomb 5 ай бұрын
Very surprised that 2 of my very unique theories made this list. Maybe Adipose saw and liked them. Or maybe my they weren't as unique as I thought
@oziancitizen
@oziancitizen 5 ай бұрын
Since there is 'always a twist at the end', what if the person delivering Ruby is just a Kind Woman, not her mother at all? It seems odd to assume that the person who dropped her at the church *must* be her mother
@mr.scarlo2234
@mr.scarlo2234 5 ай бұрын
Oooh, that makes sense
@tunderdiamant8651
@tunderdiamant8651 5 ай бұрын
OMG thank you i thought i was thé only one not inderstanding this ... I dont get why the characters assume it MUST bé her mother dropping her off when it could literally bé anybody... Liké i dont know maybe that woman found her abandonned Somewhere else and brought her here or maybe she was abducted or whatever ... This feels like a Big storytelling flaw to me that no one IS thinking of those options
@ellisward1031
@ellisward1031 5 ай бұрын
Surely susan being ruby’s mum would make her the doctor’s great granddaughter? 😂
@jonathansim7148
@jonathansim7148 5 ай бұрын
I wouldn't put it past RTD to pull a swifty and make Ruby Mrs Flood's mother rather than her daughter. In that way Mrs Flood has already done the travel through time bit and ended up in the past in order to see her own mother grow up.
@simchar4263
@simchar4263 5 ай бұрын
Calling it, Ruby’s mum is River Song, making Ruby The Doctors daughter.
@avrahamishshalom1799
@avrahamishshalom1799 5 ай бұрын
Ruby's mum still looks like the 13th Doctor to me...
@MeNoOther
@MeNoOther 5 ай бұрын
The Trickster could work, so ce the idea of him leaving a baby on a doorstep was an old idea meant for the next season
@MeNoOther
@MeNoOther 5 ай бұрын
Mrs Flood has a motherly vibe, a judgemental mother saying Ruby is too short
@johnking5174
@johnking5174 5 ай бұрын
There has been rumours for over a year now that 13 will be appearing in RTD series. RTD said he would have loved to work with Jodie, so I think Jodie's doctor will return at some point
@Anna-zm2my
@Anna-zm2my 5 ай бұрын
What about Ruby being the Drs child of a previous incarnation from before they were mind-wiped?
@L0g0Z0g0
@L0g0Z0g0 5 ай бұрын
About Trickster theory, there is some more evidence, in Devil's Chord Ruby sings notes that are used in the first episode with the trickster, +complicated stuff with Ruby possibly being part of Sutekhth plan to trap the doctor and his history of teaming up with other gods (in comics I think) it would make sense to call a god of traps to join in. BUT unlike Trickster hooded person has her hands and visible legs, which don't really correlate with the Trickster as we know him
@chrisg5433
@chrisg5433 5 ай бұрын
Ruby creating herself is a Bootstrap Paradox
@bennettnez4711
@bennettnez4711 5 ай бұрын
Who really wrote Beethoven's fifth?
@rickkiricci784
@rickkiricci784 5 ай бұрын
It's Either """ROSE TYLER """ or """RIVER SONG""" Ruby's Mother !!; 🤗🤗🤗
@subtlegong2817
@subtlegong2817 5 ай бұрын
The 13th Doctor being Ruby’s mother would possibly cause the internet to implode. Seriously. It would need to be quarantined from all the Chibnal era hate that would be boiling in the Wi Fi signals in the air
@verity231
@verity231 5 ай бұрын
Perhaps the woman who brings Ruby to the church is not her mother at all, but someone who did it in order to set the story into motion, perhaps because they already knew that it had happened. Having said that I don’t think it's Ruby herself, the woman seems taller, but she seems to be hiding herself, perhaps knowing that she's being filmed (timey-wimey et all). There's another interesting bit about Ruby - following the Susan Twist thing being a Susan red herring, complete with the actress having her name, what did Maestro say about a song buried inside Ruby? A carol? As in Carole (Ann Ford)? Has RTD been playing the names and anagrams game with that too?
@kylerees3491
@kylerees3491 5 ай бұрын
4:21 if Susan is Ruby's mother Ruby would be the Doctors great Granddaughter not Daughter
@EskoBomb
@EskoBomb 5 ай бұрын
Doctor told Kate he has children out of sequence. Granddaughter first... No daughter yet... That would make Ruby Susan's mother if she's the doctor's daughter and I think that's what they're hinting at.
@charlesberg7008
@charlesberg7008 5 ай бұрын
I don’t think she’s the Doctors Daughter, 10 said to Donna that he’d been a father before. He also dodges when Amy asks him if he’s had kids in a Good Man Goes to War, which Russell did say to view prior to the finale.
@trevorsowerby3060
@trevorsowerby3060 5 ай бұрын
What about the Doctor's daughter Jenny, we know that she can travel in time and space?
@josephcooter5763
@josephcooter5763 5 ай бұрын
The Thirteenth Doctor being rubbies mom? I've never heard that theory.
@ianpeterdavison1963
@ianpeterdavison1963 5 ай бұрын
i have 🙃
@bezirochepolska1295
@bezirochepolska1295 5 ай бұрын
I have heard and even heard a joke about it. 🤣
@gar8987
@gar8987 5 ай бұрын
The only way that the 13th doctor as the mother of Ruby would work for me is if another of the Doctor's regeneration was the Father
@bezirochepolska1295
@bezirochepolska1295 5 ай бұрын
Bro, even Master/Missy isn't enough insane to do this.
@stiofanmacamhalghaidhau765
@stiofanmacamhalghaidhau765 5 ай бұрын
who is her mother? actually in terms of what we know on screen people are focusing a lot on a different question - who is the person who leaves ruby at the church? that person is, based on what we can see in 'ruby road', female, not old, white, slim to average build, not short or notably tall, appears to have slim lips and a slim nose, and visible knuckles (ie not chubby fingers). that's not a ton to go on. the only prominent character we know of in the story that could, 20 years ago, fit that description is susan triad. susan is not a 'bad person' just one that, like in pyramids of mars, gets posessed and used to do evil for sutekh. but that would suggest she's likely dead now. :-/ oops. except maybe not because she maybe is the tardis in human form. her 'posession' in human form parallels the tardis being 'posessed' by sutekh in jackal form. way more interesting, and thisjust might tie in to the triad thing... in pyramids of mars the eye of horus glows red. like... ruby red. or is it rose red... or maybe cherry red? not sure. Its one of that triad of reds anyway. the eye kept sutekh trapped. the eye got destroyed. so now the fragments, if they can be reconnected and healed (as I remember you'll need the milk of a gazelle for that!) they can re-trap sutekh. but the bits are on mars and likely you'll need a timelord to collect them and seed them into the doctor's timeline - ruby, rose and cherry. why the hell, after all, do we need rose in the story? why is mrs flood focused in on cherry? and while we can say rose has a reason to be there, she's focused on finding her mother, not on the sutekh problem. all three seem peripheral to the sutekh story. which is why they are essential you heard it here first
@JulieAiken
@JulieAiken 5 ай бұрын
OK, crazy thought. Is Mrs. Flood Jenny? (I just re-watched The Doctor's Daughter and thought "Wait -- he's got another daughter out there...") Jenny had "regeneration energy" but didn't regenerate, so there's every reason to believe she would age and eventually die. Jenny was gorgeous, and Mrs. Flood is gorgeous for a woman in her 70s or 80s. Jenny was shorter that Mrs. Flood, but she was newborn and might have had a growth spurt like she suggested to Ruby. While I think it's more likely Mrs. Flood is an old Ruby or someone else entirely, I'm pretty sure Jenny will pop up again sometime.
@charg1nmalaz0r51
@charg1nmalaz0r51 5 ай бұрын
Why does everyone assume the woman dropping off ruby is her mother. She could just be the equivalent of a delivery driver, dropping off an important package lol
@SoulPoetryandOtherWorks
@SoulPoetryandOtherWorks 5 ай бұрын
She's delivered by the Kerblam man?
@CrankyGrandma
@CrankyGrandma 5 ай бұрын
I find it very odd and bizarre that the doctor says he doesn’t have kids yet unless Ncuti is an alt u doctor. Ten spoke of having had kids in the past (not grandkids) so it makes no sense that he doesn’t have them yet. Ten knew his kids (and so did two). As far as the woman being ruby I agree. It’s all a distraction to defeat sutekh. Ruby is a trap but not for the doctor. She’s a trap for sutekh. She could be a baby farm baby.
@ItsPaularity
@ItsPaularity 5 ай бұрын
So my theory with the whole reveal that the doctor doesnt have a child yet cause timelord stuff, is what if thats River? It HAS to be someone we know. They keep her face hidden too much to be a new character. It could be during her time with Capaldi's doc at the singing towers she became pregnant. Then before going to the library, she leaves her child at the church. The reason she doesn't tell the doctor is because she knows he doesn't want to bring people into his life in a dangerous way. Idk. Silly theory. But would be cool.
@GazzardOke
@GazzardOke 4 ай бұрын
I bet the comment on "what is the memory of a tardis?" in the time window was a foreshadowing of Ruby going in it while being stuck in the time window room and it being linked to the memory tardis that we've been seeing all the past drs and companions. Would be awesome.
@SoulPoetryandOtherWorks
@SoulPoetryandOtherWorks 5 ай бұрын
She may be the daughter of the Moment. Remember the big red button shaped like a jewel. Was that a ruby?
@Bman-dr8hx
@Bman-dr8hx 5 ай бұрын
The Doctor said “he didn’t have kids yet” could mean he’s talking about his personal timeline as in he just didn’t conceive he’s kids yet, but could know them as a different name or wasn’t galifrey supposed to be in far future so in the sense of world timeline he hasn’t had kids yet as in that it’s not the physical year he had kids.
@MrWayneJP
@MrWayneJP 5 ай бұрын
She is The Master.
@AxelaxiB
@AxelaxiB 5 ай бұрын
A villain picking a companion wouldn’t be new; Missy is the one that gave Clara the Doctors phone number and Clara had already jumped into the timestream since we had already seen her twice.
@samanthalawton6972
@samanthalawton6972 5 ай бұрын
If Susan was her mother then Ruby couldnt be the doctors daughter
@ivymoon5084
@ivymoon5084 5 ай бұрын
I was confused about this too... that would make Ruby the Doctors great granddaughter
@scotthewitt258
@scotthewitt258 5 ай бұрын
Well. She COULD, but it is usually frowned upon.....
@stevenkirk1844
@stevenkirk1844 5 ай бұрын
Surely the figure with the hood is the actress Jodie Whitaker. Wasn't she revealed as the 13th Doctor by pulling back a hood in the promo? And the lace-up boots.
@battlep0t
@battlep0t 5 ай бұрын
Whoever Ruby's mum is - I think RTD will want to nail down the idea that Carla was the mum who stepped up and raised her so I think the answer she finds will be dissatisfying
@robertbutler1186
@robertbutler1186 5 ай бұрын
Back when David tenant was the doctor he had a daughter played by his actual wife ruby could be connected to her no one seems to talking about this
@truthseekercanada
@truthseekercanada 4 ай бұрын
Heres a crazy theory for you. In the Christmas special Donna survived because of a "shared inheritance" with her daughter Rose. What if a smilar thing is true for Ruby. What if Bad Wolf is actually an Elder god in the same way that Sutekh is, and when Rose Tyler looked into the heart of the Tardis she became the avatar of Bad Wolf. Later she and the meta crisis doctor have a child and she is dropped of at the church on Ruby Road by Rose. After Eccleston absorbs the energy from Rose all she can remember is singing in her head. Remember Maestro said Ruby had a hidden song in her heart, could this be the bad wolf song remembered by Rose Tyler? Bad Wolf had the ability to reshape reality, and this could explain the snow, Ruby is subconsciously using her shared inhrritance to recreate her earliest memory, the snow falling the night she was left at the church. Seems like a very RTD thing to do.
@AuroraButterflyx
@AuroraButterflyx 5 ай бұрын
I bet it's the trickster is the cloaked figure, the music from The Devil Cord was the same one that they used in the Sarah Jane adventures when Sarah gave the memory cube to Maria, which helped her remember Sarah when she was basically erased from everyone memory after the incident on that pier when they were kids. I think I saw somewhere that Russell wants to reuse the Sky storyline again. so I betting it has to be him. Even before the legend of Ruby Sunday, I was guessing the one who waits was either Suetkeh or the Trickster. However, if it is not the trickster then I guess Ruby's mother is a new character (maybe the kind person from the cast list) and is also the one who saves the day. The synopsis did say that one woman will save the day (unless there's another twist and it's actually Susan Triad who saves the day). Although at the same time, anything is possible and is anyone game at this point, lol XD.
@Killerfin100
@Killerfin100 5 ай бұрын
What if it's Susan and Ruby ends up being the Doctor's Great Granddaughter?
@jonathanbrett-warren2031
@jonathanbrett-warren2031 4 ай бұрын
Love your content and well done for working out who Ruby's mum was
@darthsentinel
@darthsentinel 5 ай бұрын
Ruby’s mother is Sian Clifford, the Kind Woman. She points at the doctor because it’s his fault that she had to give up her child. Dropping her off at the church on Ruby Road was necessary for some reason, because something something being exposed to Sutekh on that night will give Ruby the power she needs to defeat him.
@mikeeast761
@mikeeast761 5 ай бұрын
My theory is Ruby's 'Mum' is Ruby from the 73 yards timeline, hence why we can't see her face, creating a paradox or something harming the timestream, allowing Sutekinto ours, as ruby is her own mum
@OfficalGamingFFC
@OfficalGamingFFC 5 ай бұрын
The way chibnall wrote the 13th doctor, I doubt she will be rushing back 😂
@louiscarmichael9260
@louiscarmichael9260 5 ай бұрын
She's definitely her own mother
@allisterbrimble1
@allisterbrimble1 5 ай бұрын
Ruby is human as scanned by the doctor whilst she leaves the Tardis at the end of Space Babies at 46:24 - this might cancel out a lot of the theories. The genetic code given is JD6784 which corresponds to a homo sapien (human) species with an age of 19, and the scanner also tells us that.
@deanmfe
@deanmfe 5 ай бұрын
Has anyone seen the way Ruby is holding her lapels in the photo in last week's Radio Times. Very First Doctor! Peter Capaldi did it when he was revealed as the Twelfth Doctor, too.
@oscarwhat2041
@oscarwhat2041 5 ай бұрын
its probs gonna be ruby carying herself as ruby found her younger self and is delivering herself to the church
@Ibalistic_hedge
@Ibalistic_hedge 5 ай бұрын
Ruby being her mother can't be possible. She doesn't remember her parents, if she was her own mother, she'd remember.
@lauriespencer4132
@lauriespencer4132 5 ай бұрын
Well, regarding the 13th Dr., 14 changed clothes when she regenerated into 14. That usually doesn’t happen , I don’t think. She did say right before she regenerated,” I want to see what happens “. It doesn’t seem plausible but Who 👃
@macromancer
@macromancer 5 ай бұрын
An Osirin that makes sense is the mother is Isis. In mythology, she gives birth to Horus the enemy of Sutekh. Isis also hid herself from Set during her pregnancy with Horus. So my guess Isis gave birth to Horus' sister who will pick up her brother's reins and defeat Sutekh.
@wolfieeeee256
@wolfieeeee256 5 ай бұрын
Susan Triad is everywhere but Ruby Road, I think it must be her
@eveebunny
@eveebunny 5 ай бұрын
I heard the disciples of light line when rewatching recently definitely thought that sounds like it could be ruby!
@austinwiththehat
@austinwiththehat 5 ай бұрын
She’s the female regeneration of the mad monk from the hartnell era lol
@williamshaneblyth
@williamshaneblyth 5 ай бұрын
The kind woman?
@SoulPoetryandOtherWorks
@SoulPoetryandOtherWorks 5 ай бұрын
May be a reference to "Compassion", the Doctor's assistant from the books who became a living humanoid TARDIS.
@PhilDrury
@PhilDrury 5 ай бұрын
Given that we have only 8 episodes and a huge budget,I think the answer depends on which of the final episode versions they've probably shot. Ruby's mother could be connected with Osiris, the Osirians, Rah (Sun Day, and gods can make sure their offspring wind up with the right family name.) "Evil! Evil since the dawn of time!" Sounds like "the oldest one" to me, so there could still be a Fenric connection (some incidental music red herrings on previous episodes suggested that possibility, subconsciously) Is Ruby's mother The Doctor? It's possible twice over, given both bigeneration and the line of dialogue about the Doctor yet to be a father (despite already claiming to be one. Now that's a paradox!) The 14th Doctor could easily regenerate onto the Curator, and another Jodie Whittaker incarnation and hell even Merlin and ultimately the Valeyard. Moving on... Now introduce yourself to Rakija (fruit brandy) and take some headache pills, you'll need them to believe this idea. Ruby is the Doctor, which is why her mother points. Her mother is telling the Doctor that Ruby is himself. Ruby becomes the Timeless Child and somehow gets her abilities to chest death (Sutekh) by regeneration. Who in this context is Ruby's mother? Rah, the Sun God.
@JakepataneYoutube
@JakepataneYoutube 5 ай бұрын
It could be ruby herself,or the trickster or maybe a random person or could be rose and 10ths doctors daughter from the parallel world or she could be Rivers daughter
@seanwebb4633
@seanwebb4633 5 ай бұрын
Ruby is Susan, the doctor's granddaughter, her mother is Jenny, the doctor's daughter, she doesn't even realise she is a timelord because she is on her first incarnation. She changes her name to Susan so that the doctor recognise her name from his past. It's all timey-whimey.
@coastersIT
@coastersIT 5 ай бұрын
My Theory: like with the weeping angels, that which holds the memory of a Tardis is a Tardis, it will become the Memory Tardis
@OperationBlueprint
@OperationBlueprint 4 ай бұрын
I was not expecting the Osha swipe 😅
@gryphoncompanion
@gryphoncompanion 5 ай бұрын
I am convinced Ruby is the daughter of Isis.
@LeveyReoSaintil
@LeveyReoSaintil 5 ай бұрын
66 meters = 72 yards…”hiding myself away…” Mrs Flood/Old Forms "hiding ourselves away…" The Doctor
@ebismusic8813
@ebismusic8813 5 ай бұрын
Imagine what fun RTD has watching your videos….and I’m CERTAIN he watches
@scotthewitt258
@scotthewitt258 5 ай бұрын
Britush people must do it differently. If Susan is Ruby's mom, Ruby woukd not be The Doctor's daughter..... This ain't PornHub......
@quietdemon8138
@quietdemon8138 5 ай бұрын
The theory I think is most likely is that Ruby’s mother is the 13th Doctor, The reason I say that is that after The Giggle aired Russell said during the commentary for it ‘every Doctor bi-generated as well in their own personal timeline at the same location they originally regenerated’ so my theory is that if that’s true maybe 13 awoke on that cliff edge and sometime later somehow conceived Ruby? Plus the Doc Martens boots are very similar to 13’s ones so I think dismissing this theory immediately ain’t exactly fair
@cybermatstrikes7557
@cybermatstrikes7557 5 ай бұрын
Ruby is the offspring of the Goblin and Sutekh
@KingCitrusIII
@KingCitrusIII 5 ай бұрын
I’d like it to be The Trickster, but I just do not think they have the time to include them within the confines of the story with Sutekh. If they were going to tweak it they could have Ruby’s mother give up Ruby in return for living as a deal with The Trickster (that being Mrs Flood cos why not) but I fear this would undermine Rubys found family with Carla and Cherry.
@Timm
@Timm 5 ай бұрын
Ruby Sunday is the daughter of River Song. Same initials.
@stevebickmore4058
@stevebickmore4058 5 ай бұрын
Leela is Ruby's grandmother. Leela had a daughter who gave birth to Ruby but she was killed in the Time War. Leela escapes with infant Ruby to Earth knowing the Doctor will find Ruby.
@embercub
@embercub 4 ай бұрын
Just finished watching the finale, man i got emotional
@aaroncarney7733
@aaroncarney7733 5 ай бұрын
Who ever confirmed with absolute certainty the person dropping off the baby is the actual mom.
@cgrenadier
@cgrenadier 5 ай бұрын
One theory: River Song? Same initials...
@leanneray815
@leanneray815 5 ай бұрын
My brother in law moved to new york with his wife and had 2 children, both of whom have american accents despite their parents having a British accent. So I don't think there can be an argument made for parents not having the same accent as their children. There was an american you tube interview with the doctor and Ruby where they had to chose their favourites from categories. River was in one of the categories and the doctor said he had to chose river as she was the doctors wife. Millie said well ill have to chose her as well as that would make her, her wife too? The doctor shot millie a look and they awkwardly shook it off. But the whole thing looked like a spoiler Tom Holland or Mark Ruffalo would've made during the Avengers infinity saga. I also think its very strange that the unearthly child is not available on iplayer. I know this is supposed to be because of a dispute with the hartnell family, but why only that story? Why would the family agree to all the other stories? I did copyright training for the bbc between 2010 - 14 and know a lot about the rights mess with doctor who, it's part of the syllabu lol, but that to me sounds a bit weird, and I've seen a lot! Love you're videos by the way.
@lauriespencer4132
@lauriespencer4132 5 ай бұрын
Looking back at Space Babies being the first episode is starting to make sense to me. It seemed like a nonsense episode but I think it ties into who/ what Ruby is.
@mikaelhultberg9543
@mikaelhultberg9543 5 ай бұрын
Interesting theories. I've been thinking along similar lines and I'm really hoping Ruby's mum is Susan Foreman (not Triad, she was probably just a bait for the Doctor) because I'd love to see Carole Ann Ford again, but I think it's unlikely since Ford is 84 years old and they would have to de-age her a bit in order to play Ruby's mum who would be middle aged in 2024 - even younger in 2004 (assuming she ages like humans do). It might be the 13th doctor because she does wear those shoes, but that's probably just a red herring. It wouldn't make sense to involve the Trickster in this since we already have Sutekh - and I don't think either of them are Ruby's parent. It can't be Harriet Arbinger because Ruby's mum is white. Mrs Flood - maybe. She might be an older version of Ruby coem back to keep an eye on herself. Just because she doesn't look like old Ruby from 74 Yards, she might be. Or she is Susan regenerated (I hope not because I'm really hoping for Carole Ann Ford to appear). And Ruby herself? I hope not. Maybe the mum is Jenny?
@dotmenziesholden1251
@dotmenziesholden1251 5 ай бұрын
Nicola Coughlan is joining the cast, could she be Ruby's mother? Nicola is quite petite so could explain Mrs Flood's comment on Ruby's height. Cessair of Diplos (also known as Vivien Fay and the Cailleach among others) is the main antagonist of the Doctor Who story "The Stones of Blood". She was portrayed by Susan Engel.
@elliereed1262
@elliereed1262 5 ай бұрын
No as Ruby's mother isn't five foot tall
@counsellour
@counsellour 5 ай бұрын
I love that you made a reference to The Acolyte. I wonder if you are following and maybe even a fan? Would you ever divert your Doctor Who content to review and share your thoughts on the Star Wars show?
@lumpycaptain2610
@lumpycaptain2610 5 ай бұрын
If Ruby is an evil god that put herself on Ruby Road to lure the tardis in order for sutekh to attach himself, then it could explain what the woman was telling people Ruby was in 73 yards
@cygone
@cygone 5 ай бұрын
Mrs. Flood's name might be a Biblical allusion referring to the flood in the Book of Genesis that wipes the slate clean and life on Earth can start anew. My theory is that Mrs Flood and Ruby are the reset switch that reboots the Universe after Sutekh destroys everything.
@karenmedeiros5397
@karenmedeiros5397 4 ай бұрын
Everyone's assuming this person is Ruby's mother, or that when 13 come into the ideas that it can't be because when did 13 have a baby. If it is, and I'm not saying it is, maybe it's a baby she knows needs to be saved so she brings it to the Church on Ruby Road. After all, remember, 13 was a foundling, even 15 says he was a foundling adopted by the time lords. Ruby is a foundling, the doctor is a foundling, both found, saved, and raised by adoptive parents. All I know, is I can't wait for tonight
@kay983
@kay983 5 ай бұрын
This is one theory I have, and could be an element of truth to, Bi-regeneration according to Russle T Davies happened to every doctor down the regenerations at that moment in time, so what if it’s Jodi Whitaker’s doctor dropping ruby off and turning away crying because her parents were killed during the flux, reason because ncuti gatwa will not have any memory because of the bi regeneration, can still be any one’s child just might not actually be her mother dropping her at the church.
@cuppatea2152
@cuppatea2152 5 ай бұрын
In "The Flux," there was that being that took on 13's form when addressing her, who was wearing a dark coat instead of 13's. What if that is Ruby's "mom," who dropped her off at the church while looking like 13?
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