Who is the DC Animated Universe's Greatest Hero? | Justice League

[@dazzlethestar151]

It's honestly kind of amazing to think that one of the DCAU's most important heroes wouldn't have existed if Andrea's life hadn't been ruined and she hadn't been forced to abandon Bruce. I almost wish they could've explored some alternate timeline where Bruce and Andrea end up together, and see how they, and all the other DCAU heroes live their lives without Batman or the Justice League.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

A surprising hell, I bet. Not unlike a theoretical Star Wars universe where, since the Clone Wars never happened, the Old Jedi Order never got purged, and Palpatine didn't become Emperor, *the galaxy would have oh so easily fell during the Yuuzhan Vong invasion.*

[@nameynamename3758]

not really, you'll find connections like that in everything if you look for it

[@kamenrangerzeo8251]

Batman. One not only is he Voice by the legendary Kevin Conroy but at the same time he commands the Justice League's best members with such Precision that one could say he is the true mind of the league itself.

[@raideurng2508]

My vote is Green Arrow. The normal human who has always been the voice of reason in a sea of madness. He speaks what he believes, consequences be damned. He is the voice that the justice league listen to when the cards are down. He is simply a good person trying to do good, never losing his hope in people.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

In short, the likes of the Watchmen, the Squadron Supreme, and even a lot of Avengers iterations needed optimistics like him.

[@EditDeath]

I vote Question for much the same reason. Green Arrow was the one whose voice got through to the others, but Question had the guts to call out Superman about how close they were getting to Justice Lords territory, and that tried to sacrifice his own hero career by axing Luthor so Superman wouldn't get the chance. Question and Arrow were two sides of the same coin, normal men speaking truth to power from very different perspectives. Perhaps a tie?

[@EliteEasyE]

I watch the Once and Future episodes every few months. I don't know if it's just seeing our heroes in fish out of water scenarios or if I'm just starved for more Batman Beyond. Multiple regimes at Warner Brothers just love leaving that franchise twisting in the vines, huh?

[@SerumLake]

Batman Beyond is the solution to Warner Bros’ problem with Batman entering public domain.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Just make sure a Batman Beyond return is made by really good hands. I do not want the creators of the lacking CoIE movies to make even a BB movie, as they've incongruously said.

[@EliteEasyE]

@@michaelandreipalon359 A few if the original guys are still around I don't see why not!

[@EliteEasyE]

@@michaelandreipalon359 Just watched Batman Beyond episode Countdown and saw Darwyn Cooke's name... without him I think the tone would change maybe not as drastically as the one between BTAS and NBMA, but... Either way I hope they make the Batman Beyond project that the Spiderverse people proposed.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

@@EliteEasyE Eh, not a fan of "Countdown", alongside The Zeta Project. Heavily skippable, for no story beat from them ever matters in the DCAU, and I'm not a fan of TZP not getting closure. If they are making such a movie, it better be a sequel, not a standalone that adapts things in a way too distilled manner.

[@kimeraclan3135]

I would argue that GL and Batsie are tied for first place when stopping Chronos. And as I recall Batsie wasn't that instrumental in discovering the Imperium's invasion. That honor goes to Martian Manhunter who summoned the other members of the league, minus Wonder Woman, who came to help by her own decision.

[@Primordial_Synapse]

Batman stands out as someone who can match the accomplishments of his peers _without_ special powers or the destruction of vital civil infrastructure.

[@tayojones9460]

If we are going for outside the box influences, the Valestra gang are the greatest "heroes" of the dcau. If they did not threaten Carl Beaumont, he and his daughter would not have been forced to run away, thus Andrea would not have broken Bruce's heart and thus, no Batman and possibly no Justice League.

[@SerumLake]

Someone build a monument to ol' Sally "The Weezer" Valestra, stat!

[@michaelramon2411]

At that point, you should just give the crown to Joe Chill.

[@AlriikRidesAgain]

Shining Knight. Such a low tier hero. Such a hero regardless of tier.

[@WillPower311]

It's Booster Gold, had that vortex continued it would have consumed all of existence, this includes any and all entities that exist

[@leezard7696]

Agreed because I'm completely biased and am not ashamed to admit it. I love Booster Gold

[@TheDufflebagGang]

And nobody even knew he did it. I love Booster so much OTL

[@darkdemonwerewolf]

You mean green lantern right (This is a joke on the episode in question... If you don't get it stick to crowd control.... Another joke)

[@BiteSized_]

By that logic- it was the man that shot Bruce’s parents.

[@SerumLake]

Not quite - the death of his parents set him on the path to becoming a vigilante. Andrea made him become Batman.

[@nickmalachai2227]

I think it's less important to find some objective answer and more accurate to ask who the League would consider the greatest hero. Personally, I think everyone but Superman would say it's Superman, and Superman would say it's Green Lantern, because saving one planet can't compare to saving who knows how many planets in the whole of Sector 2814. But personally I'd say Superman because, as J'onn said, he's the immigrant from the stars who taught us all how to be heroes.

[@danielpasilis4046]

but this all begs the question "Who/What caused Andrea to leave?"...which brings us back to...the Joker?

[@SerumLake]

**GASP**

[@A1ml33y]

I think the Greatest Heroes of the DCAU are Green Arrow ( for keeping the Justice League honest & reminding them how their actions effected the regular people caught in the middle of their battles with villains like in the Cadmus Arc ) Supergirl I feel had a greater impact on the DCAU before running off into the Far Future with the legion of Superheroes where I think she did a lot of good . The Question & Huntress being quirky Street level heroes going places that most Justice Leaguers don't always go solving mysteries . I feel like Vixen has a bigger impact fighting threats that are a little too weird for the founding members, same with Etrigan the Demon , Lobo & the New Gods Orion, Big Barda & Scott Free . In my mind I feel like everyone who isn't Batman, Superman or Wonder Woman do a lot to save the world 🌎 Even Booster Gold got to shine in the middle of a weird magical crisis in one episode.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

...A JLU prequel comics anthology would be quite nice with what you said in mind.

[@A1ml33y]

@@michaelandreipalon359 I ❤️ actually read every issue all 12 of them because I really would love to see what Booster Gold was up to in 1992 or see some of Vixens adventures pre joining the League in the 00s , I really want to see Fire & Ice's Adventures in 96 & 97 , but mostly to see if even Nubia ( Wonder Woman's Black Twin sister from the 70s pre Crisis comics was doing and her Adventures in the 90s ) hell I want to see Donna Troy & Dick Grayson form their version of the Titans in 98 with Speedy , Aqualad, Raven and Starfire & Cyborg. There's so much from the other characters I really wanted to see that got me excited about when I first watched Justice League Unlimited and seeing DCAU versions of characters I had gotten familiar with from reading Grant Morrison's JLA run & the JM DeMatteis & Keith Giffen crisis Post Run on Justice League & Christopher Priest & Mark Waid's Justice League Taskforce from the 90s I read a lot of these comics after i got into JLU in my teens and i enjoyed Mark Waid & Barry Kitson's JLA year one i read in trade in my teens it was a good intro to me seeing a Modern 90s Silver Age version of the Justice League. I became a fan of black Canary because of that mini series . Because before that I kinda associated the Justice League with the Superfriends, because that was a show I watched a lot of as a kid growing up in the 90s and that's why I like the goofy weird side of DC

[@MrWhitman]

I'm surprised that you didn't include Dan Turpin. He helped to stop an Apokolips invasion and lost his life for it. However, without powers, without a costume, and even with Superman broken and displayed, he inspired the people of Metropolis to fight back. I'd say that has to account for SOMETHING.

[@yaujj65]

Definitely, he is the bulwark that buy Metropolis time to hold off Darkseid invasion. Helped free Superman and buy enough time for US military and New Genesis reinforcement. (I even had a video about this in my channel)

[@Superumbreon]

It's hard to say, but I would say the 7 founding members. In addition to the list, Green Arrow, Supergirl, Huntress, Black Canary, Question, Booster Gold...

[@LateNightNightmaresLNN]

Batman is still No.1 in my heart

[@ggbetz]

For me, it'll always be Booster Gold. He definitely started with bad intentions, but really changed and was willing to sacrifice himself to earn it.

[@monarchmoth2240]

Superman. He's not just a hero that has saved a countless amounts of people, nearly any one on the justice league is capable of the same feats. But he is arguably one of the most powerful beings in the universe without falling into the traps of power, instead he chooses to selflessly help and inspire an adopted world to be better. Plethora of heroes in the DCAU and its future take inspiration from Superman, directly and indirectly, and brings out the best in others as well. Someone who plays a role in someone else's back story doesnt compare, might as well call Thomas and Martha wayne the greatest heroes for dying if we're going to play that game. Heroism is a proactive choice.

[@tytheaniman497]

I’d have to say Superman because he’s the most human. He has control over himself to not go over the line but will kill if it’s a last resort to save and protect others. Green Arrow is my personal favorite along with GL because of their moral codes and valor. But Superman’s heart is what makes him the best out of all of them. There was even an episode proving how essential and important he truly was to everyone. Superman is the symbol of hope.💙❤️

[@AarturoSc]

Exactly. Plus it was Batman’s utility belt what caused the problem in the first place. He just made sure to neutralize it, and needed Green Lantern’s help. But, you know, Batman bias and such.

[@divineroc]

I agree with your assessment for the most part, except I have one issue with it. Superman would never kill, he would go out of his way to find a solution that would save everyone.

[@amaliapursell]

Even though it is clearly false, the idea that Lex Luthor is the greatest hero is a hilarious idea and I laughed so hard at it Maybe an April fool's day episode on that next year? Lmfao

[@qwefg3]

For the logic with Andrea... That would mean the biggest hero would be the Joker. If he never killed her father then she would have lived happily ever after with Bruce and helped him heal from his trauma rather than doubling down and diving deeper into it.

[@SerumLake]

She left long before the man who would become the Joker killed her father.

[@FriendlyBatDoom]

I don't think there is a definitive answer here. You could choose anyone but to answer the question I'm going with Shining Knight. Mainly for the standing to Eiling after getting beaten down multiple times. He also didn't do evil when ordered so by King Arthur to burn a village.

[@propane_salesman]

I mean, by that logic, Joe Chill is the DC universe's greatest hero. Without him, Bruce would have just grown up to be a limp-wristed rich boy who had everything given to him by mommy and daddy.

[@SerumLake]

but without Andrea he would've been the Ski Mask Vigilante, and may have been killed early on in his career...

[@connorscanlan2167]

Then, following THAT logic, the greatest hero is... Sal Velstra?! After all, if Beaumont didn't have to skip town... But wait... what is a mob boss... without his ENFORCERS? Joker is the greatest hero in the DCAU confirmed. Not taking any notes, thank you.

[@BastardWolf28]

By that logic, Joe Chill is the real GOAT.

[@theimperialowl1011]

This was certainly an interesting thought experiment, I liked it.

[@SerumLake]

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[@bluekinghtbeyond]

Don't forget about Ace the Bathound. I argue he's the most underrated. He helped save gotham against The Joker. Not to mention, he helped Bruce not be a total loner. If you asked me he's the greatest hero and a very good Dog 🐕

[@sinmenon4347]

Loved the plot twist. It also encapsulates everything about the DCAU we know and love: it isn't about the coolest powers or deeds, it is about the humans behind the masks.

[@ethribin4188]

Batman. Without even a contest. Not only is he the most impactfull person aside of Superman and the Flash, but he also is just a normal man, with no super powers. He may have money, and may not be thr only non superpower hero, but he is among the greatest, despite being just a human.

[@WazzpinatorReviews-or1zb]

green arrow, anybody?

[@WazzpinatorReviews-or1zb]

he also exists, and is also normal.

[@langbo9999]

Don't forget The Flash save the sun and the Earth.

[@beatlesfansam]

I was not expecting Andrea Beaumont to be your choice, but I'm on board with your rationale! Great video essay. 👏🏼

[@SerumLake]

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[@kommandantgalileo]

Using this train of logic, it's Thomas and Martha Wayne that are the greatest hero for dying to create Batman.

[@SerumLake]

I understand why you say that, but their deaths inspired him to become a vigilante. As we saw in Mask of the Phantasm, he was almost killed on his first costumed adventure because the criminals didn't fear him. He was just a man in a ski mask. Without Andrea leaving him he wouldn't have had the inspiration to become Batman. The Waynes play a huge role (as does Joe Chill), but Andrea was the key to him becoming Batman.

[@kommandantgalileo]

@@SerumLake fair enough.

[@lucasthehedgehog799]

All of them are the greatest 🗿🗿🗿

[@thebloodedge284]

True

[@FrozenJack2007]

well i really like the question. he may not have saved any universes but hes cool in my books.

[@TimidTabby84]

Not a bad list at all. Though I think you meant Booster Gold at that start, not Green Lantern.

[@SerumLake]

It’s a joke from the Booster Gold episode of JLU. People that he rescues think he’s a Green Lantern.

[@Blu_Moon_VA]

Joe Chill started Bruce's trauma.

[@nkosig4995]

i was listining to this vid while animating and when you said "even you green lantern" I was about to flip but then I saw booster gold lmao

[@jcoates32]

Gotta go Superman. I'm a huge batman fan, but Superman is the one other heroes strive to be like. His adopted parents taught him about how to be human with God like powers, which turned him into the face of the Justice League.

[@Manawolfman]

I felt like Hawkgirl's people had already lost their fight against their warring enemies, and that their attempt to use Earth in the warp drive wouldn't have prevented that.

[@DariusExplains]

Superman is the face of that team and the Unofficial, Undisputed Leader. But Batman is the 🧠 Brain, the heart and 🏦

[@AnarchoCatBoyEthan]

As always, fun and great video.

[@SerumLake]

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[@thegreatacolyt1277]

Superman

[@justafox5356]

Obviously it’s the one. The only. BOOSTER GOLD!

[@juanroman3627]

No other acceptable answer than Batman, Waller knows what's good

[@thebloodedge284]

Justice League, the animated series, is one of the best superhero cartoons.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Agreed, alongside almost all the DCAU, and their companion pieces Teen Titans, The Batman 2004, and Batman: The Brave and the Bold. If only Marvel can compare since the 90s.

[@The_Phantasm]

By the definition you used for Andrea, doesnt this actually make Joe Chill the the greatest hero in the DCAU because without him Bruce Wayne would never have been Batman to begin with? Or perhaps Jor-El because there would be no Superman if he hadn't sent his son to Earth?

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Substitute Joe Chill with either Alfred Pennyworth or Leslie Thompkins, and we're golden.

[@SerumLake]

It’s a no to Joe Chill, because he only set Bruce on to the path to becoming a vigilante. And we saw how he struggled as the ski mask vigilante in Mask of the Phantasm. It wasn’t until he became Batman and frightened the criminals that he started to succeed. I see an argument for Jor-El, but Superman didn’t save all of existence.

[@The_Phantasm]

@@SerumLake Yes but Lex Luthor did and if it wasn't for Superman, Lex Luthor would just be a cruel businessman instead of a supervillain.

[@SerumLake]

@@The_PhantasmI wouldn’t say that Lex saved all existence. He took out Darkseid, yes, but how do we know that the Justice League wouldn’t have done so later on? Even if he did, that’s not on the same level as saving all things that had ever existed and ever would exist.

[@erubianwarlord8208]

yeah if chain of causes is taken into account then we just keep rolling back until its Vandal Savage for kickstaring humanity by being smart and strong enough to get all prehistoric ladies to himself the after sleeping near a glowy rock and That is assuming the rock was never nudged by somebody

[@Lanceawright]

Nicely done.

[@ZeeTee20]

Just give it to Batman. "If X insignificant character did Y there'd be no Z for major character!" can stretch out ad nauseum.

[@stephenlarson9422]

my vote is for the normal people who stood up to General Eiling in "Patriot Ac.t" they had no powers yet still chose to what was right. can you imagine what the world would be like if more people embodied that ideal?

[@dadab22]

"He has to be stopped, Fate. Here and now. Not for the sake of our world, but for the sake of all worlds." "Then for the sake of all worlds, I will continue my mission. To find a better way." Doctor Fate stopped not only essentially Cthulhu, but he guided the most deadly and dangerous being in the universe to becoming better. He may not have been as flashy or present as some of the other heroes, or the best fighter. But his wisdom helped keep people on the right path.

[@Scrinwaipwr]

By the same logic that awards Andrea Beaumont, one could consider DC's most important or greatest hero to be Joe Chill.

[@SerumLake]

Except Joe Chill led Bruce Wayne to becoming a vigilante, not Batman, as we saw in Mask of the Phantasm ;)

[@somarushinde1704]

Doesn't that mean the guy who killed bruse parents is the real hero

[@jordonlyn4615]

To me, the greatest hero in the DCAU is none other than the Dark Knight himself. Despite being the only member of the original Justice League that lacked superpowers, he did not capitulate to this pressure. Instead he kept on fighting because that is what a hero is: someone who always perseveres and is willing to put his/her life on the line to protect the innocent, no matter what.

[@nathanweast4397]

Every hero in the Justice League gets a chance to prove themselves at least once; Sir Justin and Vigilante winning a moral victory against the Red Hulk knockoff when clearly outmuscled, Booster Gold saving Metropolis from an equally destructive force while the main members were fighting an overpowered wizard, but to me, Batman edges out the others with how many contingencies, sheer willpower even greater than a Green Lantern, and willingness to sacrifice himself to get the job done. The only one able to keep focused when regressed to an 8-year old with the other founding members, to team up with his future self to stop Chronos in Neo Gotham, to just giving a sad girl a friend to confide in when she was on the precipice of a nuclear meltdown that would have destroyed Gotham. The only Justice League member to successfully dodge Darkseid's Omega beams repeatedly, when a single shot can and has destroyed stronger beings instantaneously. Able to fight certain death if he fell asleep by simply humming "Frera Jacques" and help the other unconscious Justice League members fight through their own personalized nightmares, and when captured by Lex Luthor and his hired villains managed to escape via seducing Cheetah and tricking Grundy into giving him a glass of water. The only member paranoid and prepared enough to have a contingency plan to stop any/all members of the Justice League if they are ever compromised in their mission of being heroes. A primary benefactor/main contributor to the resources and money needed to staff, update, and protect the orbital Hall of Justice.

[@jillchristensen5093]

“For want of a nail” logic, eh?

[@dauntroid]

What?? By that logic we should thank the guy that killed Batman's parents. Without him, Bruce would never had considered the idea of being Batman with or without marriage. And this ignores Batman as a human with free will. He could quite at any moment. Batman is Batman because that's who he chooses to be everyday. Yeah he was influenced by different tragedies, but he is a human not a machine. Every time he puts on the cowl he is making that tough choice.

[@SerumLake]

one slight correction - his actions inspired Bruce Wayne to become a vigilante. In Mask of the Phantasm we saw he struggled as the ski mask vigilante and was almost killed on his first outing. It was the loss of Andrea that inspired him to adopt the Batman identity.

[@SerumLake]

of course, and I don't mean to suggest that Andrea is the reason why he continued to be Batman - as you alluded to, he feels compelled to fight crime - but she is the reason why he specifically became Batman. Mask of the Phantasm suggests that without frightening the criminals he would potentially die, or at least suffer a hideous injury. And let's not forget that Chronos wanted Batman's utility belt, not some Ski Mask Vigilante's utility belt, even if it was functionally the same thing.

[@dauntroid]

​@@SerumLake 2 things. 1st, sure he might not have been Batman specifically, but that doesn't mean he wouldn't have been something else. 2. Okay, so let's say she did "start" it. 3 years later, is she still the reason he does what he does? No. He does it, because that's his choice. Every. Day. Whether he is wearing the Bat costume or not.

[@melle_the_pelle]

Now if we continue with that line of logic, it's her parents, then her grandparents and so on and so on until there are no further steps to take.

[@SerumLake]

it's the amoebas that formed in the ocean, billions of years ago, that are the true heroes!

[@michaelandreipalon359]

0:09: Wow. Can't believe that running Watchtower Database gag has shown up here too. Welp, guess I was wrong with betting on Lex in the community post. Can agree with the Hawkgirl bit. I somehow feel pity for the Thanagarians losing against the devious Gordanians. Those aliens are also bad news in the separate Teen Titans (and The Batman 2004?) universe too. "Brainuthor" sounds good. Also, "Lexiac". It's a matter of opinion. Granted, even with Flash's Speed Force stint, Brainiac will still be around up until the later 30th century. I actually pity that alternate future Vandal Savage. Why must his worldline not be given the "thankfully, the alternate universe future shall not be erased from the continuum" treatment a la the numerous Terminator futures where Skynet loses (like in the Resistance video game)? Somehow, I did not expect the "For Want of A Nail" twist for this video. Oh, well, there sure are similar realms where folks like Manny Noceda (The Owl House) and a clock tower pamphleteer (Back to the Future) changed things for the better even with seemingly minor actions. What, no "if it weren't for Batsy, then no one could have crashed the first Watchtower into the Thanagarian superweapon"? "If it weren't for Batsy, then the CADMUS crisis would have ended quite poorly"? "If it weren't for Batsy, then Gotham City would have been a nuclear crater, if not a cesspool with a futile GCPD remnant keeping things far from insane"?

[@SerumLake]

To be fair, the Green Lantern joke is ripped straight from the episode…

[@langbo9999]

HA HA HA HA 😂

[@ricedanan]

Ah the ol' Butterfly/Domino Effect.

[@blackosprey2219]

Look, I know this is just a fun little video, but measuring heroism based on "lives saved as result of actions, intentional or otherwise" isn't a great measure of heroism. As BTAS's Trial episode demonstrated, you aren't morally or legally villainous just because your actions curcumstantially or unpredictably affected the lives of other supervillains. Likewise, Andrea isn't a "hero" just because her breakup with Bruce had the completely unpredictable domino outcome of preventing the end of the universe. (I'd say Batman btw. Dude has a different league of dedication and determination, and it lets him be one of the most competent and dangerous people alive despite having no powers and not being a perfect person. He gave up everything to pursue his cause and risks the most in combat, but never stopped until his failing health threatened to compromise his fundamental principles. Heroism is not just a measure of lives saved, but also of personal sacrifice. Few sacrificed more than Batman.)

[@kyleeartist2829]

The greatest hero will always be Bwanna Beast, purely because of his awesome costume.

[@lightdragoon88]

It's The Question. No Question about it.

[@ianswinford5570]

Off topic of the video, but I wonder if you could look into Silver Banshee. A villain who killed Superman in her very first appearance in the comics and was reduced to a side character/cameo character who never got speaking lines. I think she deserves more respect for a villain of her caliber and power.

[@SerumLake]

The thing is, she didn’t do very much in the DCAU shows, so she’s very very low on my list of priorities

[@srstriker6420]

@@SerumLakeyes I wonder why they didn’t use her and should have given the credit before Doomsday and the same for Deacon Blackfire

[@ianswinford5570]

@@SerumLake I still believe that Warner Bros and DC should give Silver Banshee the respect she truly deserves as one of Superman's most dangerous foes. At this point, I may as well stand outside of Warner Bros Studios with a sign that says "RESPECT SILVER BANSHEE". Also, what you said about her not doing very much is exactly what I'm talking about. Silver Banshee has tremendous power to kill Kryptonians and she's reduced to a background character. I rebuke this disrespect!

[@iamnotgonnagiveyoumyname1373]

Oh that is just silly. You might as well call Bruce's parents the true heroes for simply dying. Or that the entire planet of Krypton was full of heroes because they died. Nah it is a tie between Batman and GL. :)

[@Somedude582]

I'd say terry is the greatest hero because he went beyond batman and even saved him from his miserable existence in his manor.

[@joshguilds6284]

I mean by the logic offered in this essay the greatest hero of the DCAU might as well have been the nameless thug who killed Bruce Wayne's parents.

[@SerumLake]

Not quite. He set Bruce Wayne on the path to becoming a vigilante and, as we saw in Mask of the Phantasm, he was nearly killed without being able to scare the criminals. It was being abandoned by Andrea that lead him to becoming Batman, rather than a nameless Ski Mask vigilante.

[@alexandrefrauches132]

In my opinion, the greastest DCAU hero is the Flash. Besides he saving Earth from Eclipso and Lexiac (Lex Luthor and Brainiac), another moment is him trying to buy a toy for some orphans during the christimas special "Comfort and Joy". This may seen insignificant but it actually shows alot of Wally's character and his heroism: The fact he works on energy bar commercials can cause some people to misjudge him as just immature clown, looking for fame like Booster Gold, but in reality he use this status to bring smiles for people, specially kids who had a difficult lifes. Also, as showed in the episode "A Better World", Wally acts as JL conscience. Whenever the heroes are in trouble, he step up and tries to help with his bravery and optimism. One the best exemple of this is in the episode Hereafter, when people belived that Toyman had kill Superman and WW was enrage, almost killing the villain until Wally stopped her. He didn't try to flirt with her or tell jokes. He simply hold her arm and straight up remind her that they don't kill their enemies, that's what Superman would say.

[@OhNoTheFace]

Funny to think about butterfly effect stuff like that

[@p.s6742]

DCAU's greatest hero isn't any of the super heroes. It's the common people who (without any powers or gadgets), fought and assisted the super heroes against the threats that wanted to destroy or enslave earth.

[@bram4540]

What's the song you use in the end?

[@peepance1799]

The greatest hero is obviously booster gold.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Ehh, wrong. He's Green Lantern, as the video's start just said.

[@thedukeofchutney468]

I personally would have to go with Superman, although Batman would be a close second.

[@drow_Lilith9940]

i have to disgree if bruce had married the girl he mostly still would been batman out of need and want to do good the only differnt is being married bruce would be more stable and happy and happy more stable batman would do over all more good for gothem i feel

[@SerumLake]

I get where you're coming from, but in Mask of the Phantasm he explicitly says that he can't be a vigilante with someone waiting for him at home, and that he would give money to the city to fund more cops. Also note that in Chemistry, when he marries Susan, he states that will no longer be Batman.

[@drow_Lilith9940]

@@SerumLake and why MOTP is great movie, that message is part of the movie i dislike bruce wayna should not need his PTSD to work as batman, beacuse trauma dose not help you, just hurt you, you do better despit your trauma not beacuse it

[@EireWhovian]

Du you know if superman and supergirl are cousins in the animated sereis or not ?

[@michaelandreipalon359]

In blood relations, no. In heartful surrogation, yes.

[@dukeheavens9990]

I know you will always choose batman even tho he's not ghe greatest ,but y'all fanboys are just blinded cos DC hardly does anything besides batman

[@CapnAlces]

6:21 Well, it would be odd if your conclusions DIDN'T make sense to you... While typing this, I realized that "Jack Napier's" hit on Carl Beaumont for the Valestra mob created the Phantasm... which created Batman... who inadvertently created the Joker during the Ace Chemicals robbery... Just like in the Tim Burton film, Batman and the Joker created one another. Huh. 🤔

[@TylerYoshi]

If we follow the train of logic from Andrea Beaumont to its natural conclusion... The hand that created the universe saved the most lives, because they created the universe that Bruce, Andrea, and everyone else was born in, allowing them to save all those lives in the first place.

[@AarturoSc]

Nah. It was Batman’s utility belt what caused the problem in the first place. He risked the whole thing by your own causality logic, and without Green Lantern he wouldn’t have been able to undo that. If you cast your bias aside, it was Superman who did the most saving, since no trauma pushed him to be a hero against the world that took everything away from him. He chose to use his own abilities for mankind and has the most lives saved under his belt.

[@aisle9]

Whoa, you buried the lead here. The DCAU did an adaptation of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy?!

[@Reyven_]

If we really wanna cook then wouldn't be Joe Chill be DCAU's greatest hero as the mugger who killed Bruce's parents allowing him access for the greatest weapon of all Money.

[@jamilp2869]

I swear you were going to say Joe Chill. But then you probably wouldn't say Joe Chill because in the DCAU there arguably is no Joe Chill... daaaaaaaaah

[@youtubeuniversity3638]

Andrea Beumont, woah...

[@robfrank3423]

So we're going to go through all the justice leage members?

[@teehasheestower]

There are several JL episodes make a point to emphasize the supportive roles of other heroes, not the heavy hitters. People who move victims out of danger and provide emergency services. Even the prime example in this essay is an act of teamwork. Thats because there is no greatest hero, they don't exist. Every hero is a part pyramid, maybe that means uplifting a higher stone, but that does not make thier position in the structural whole any lesser.

[@bgvo4373]

What happened to the Justice League between JLU and BB?

[@SerumLake]

I suspect their numbers were dramatically reduced following the Near Apocalypse of '09 and they never really recovered.

[@jackofallclaws6672]

I’ve got no argument with your logic behind Andrea.

[@the_flyattractor8656]

I say the Greatest "Hero" is LOBO! Cause he aint Killed the Entire Univesrse... and He coudl if He really wanted too! So, yeah... Take that BATS!!! Har har...

[@ProjectMathesar]

By that thread of logic doesn’t that make Joe Chill or whoever in DCAU canon killed the Waynes the greatest hero?

[@jacklansdale77]

Pre watching : probably Batman or the Flash.

[@sadetwizelve]

Batman

[@garrylean9493]

It CAN'T be Andrea solely for the fact that she murdered people! Have we forgotten about that?!

[@SerumLake]

She murdered three elderly gangsters but also indirectly saved everyone and everything that has ever existed... Now that's a philosophical quandary!

[@garrylean9493]

@@SerumLake Would Batman justify murder? 🤔🤨

[@SerumLake]

well, he seemed willing to forgive her at the end of Mask of the Phantasm...

[@CloneScavengerVulpin8389]

Their all great in their own ways.

[@davidecheverria1864]

Reminds me of how this Girl left me last year i was hesr Broken bit God help me to find purpose in my hesrt break and to renew my vows to be more detrmine in my purpose in life 🦇🦇

[@Dookieman1975]

0:06 damn tf did green lantern do? Unless u meant Booster Gold

[@SerumLake]

it's a joke from the episode - a kid asks Booster Gold for his autograph, and then gets depressed when he realises he's not Green Lantern.

[@jhunt7235]

Nah, we cannot count "the inspiration" as the factor making the greatest hero. At this rate, we can say the creator of The Green Lantern Corps are responsible because they created the ring John would use to help batman travel through time. Or we could guve the credit to the man who killed Thomas and Martha Wayne for setting Bruce on his path to becoming a vigilante at all! Who's to say that Bruce's non-bat-related costumed identity would not have still attracted Chrono's attention? Maybe it just would have been the utility belt of "The Black Phantom" instead? The argument of, Andrea Beaumont leaving Bruce, thus making him Batman, being grounds for being the greatest hero in the DC universe is simply too briad and lenient to not include the dozens of other factors that lead to the heroes becoming heroes in the first place.

[@Devil-Joe]

Watching this after the Boys season 4

[@Shinigami88X1]

You forgot that Andrea delayed Terry from being Batman

[@SerumLake]

I didn’t forget anything, it’s just not relevant to saving all time and space 😉

[@michaelandreipalon359]

And also #KeepEpilogueASecret

[@Shinigami88X1]

@@SerumLake I have a theory that Andrea appears in three parts of Bruce's life sorta like a three act play

[@JPalazzolo31]

Batman Beyond

[@neoluna1172]

Lexiac sounds best, its what ive always called them.

[@Simon39759]

Wait, wait... By that reasoning, isn't Joe Chill the greatest hero?

[@SerumLake]

No because he committed murder to set Bruce on the path to becoming a vigilante. Andrea didn’t turn to crime until after she made him Batman.