WHO is The GREATEST BOXER of ALL TIME?

Joe Rogan explains who the greatest boxers of all time are.
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[@sherifnabil50]

Tyson: Floyd is a scared little man

[@larrysmith5393]

Tyson: I don’t need consent

[@ruggedtechie5867]

Uh huh sure 50-0

[@srr3097]

@@ruggedtechie5867 against tomato cand

[@ricddjdb1219]

@@srr3097 pac, canelo, de la Hoya, Mosley,hatton, morales and many more all cans? They are all hall of famers and multi time world champions

[@langtonyeah9669]

@@ricddjdb1219 don’t try to speak logic to them bro they don’t care.

[@sourswift]

Reporter: “So Tyson, what do you think about the current political and economic state of the world?” Tyson: “Fuck Floyd”

[@SaintSC05]

Tyson once again showing his wisdom.

[@jostasizzi818]

I spill my tea man god damn 😂😂😂

[@jackclay9145]

damn, jaden smith caught a stray here.

[@kasima365]

“My back is broken”

[@bananaboi9067]

It's like he's in the room with me 😂😂😂😂on a 😂

[@elmoferrel3942]

Ali's Heavyweight Era was way more competitive though

[@TheGreatestBoxing7]

Fr, Ali’s era was perfect, literally perfect.

[@O2H3]

That was the golden era of boxing , there were monsters fighting in the ring Ali , big George, smokin Joe , Liston , shavers , Mike Tyson , holyfield, this are just a few names that could have easily defeated floyd

[@theholisticmachine1493]

​@@O2H3yeah and about 80 pounds heavier?

[@Boxinghell]

Boxing had developed more in Tysons era new rules Mike Tyson could beat him if he didn't had experience of the new era but had of old era because Mikes era was developed and rules were changed.pls don't start a comment war here because I'll never be here again😅

[@Ha-ls3le]

Bro casuals think just because they’ve heard a boxers name automatically better than guys that weren’t as well known. Other factors make a fighter well known the antics outside of the ring which is the fight game if you can run your mouth you’ll make way more money.

[@sc14Av]

Prime Roy Jones jr deserves a mention.. absolutely phenomenal fighter .

[@cherokee2356]

Tysons power with Ali’s agility and speed. People don’t talk about prime Roy enough.

[@derekross6649]

This is faaaaaaacts!!!!

[@Edramos2324]

You are so right, Roy's power came from how fast his hands were. He could generate powerful shots, at tough angles, that other pros would have to get a running start to match lol.

[@davidearle7209]

@@cherokee2356 man, that’s a perfect way of describing him!

[@robhamilton4736]

Agreed, Roy fought everyone too. He sucked nobody. He made great fighters look foolish and he had defense but lethal hands too. Floyd fights are like watching 9 years old girls have pillow fights.

[@sophornphen4509]

"You get better depending on who's around you." That's shit you can live by in and out the ring. Ascend, my brothers.

[@BenDover-nq1of]

real

[@icarusflying1814]

I also like the lyric “far from the rest but I’m far from my best” by Dave in ‘Location’. Even if you’re not in a competitive environment, compete with yourself 💪

[@ishou9437]

Shit is true

[@CrusaderTube]

“Iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another.” Proverbs 27:17

[@stephenhughes5156]

It's not just that. It's that the sport evolves. New training and recovery methods are discovered etc.

[@oscaramaya9900]

Rest in peace Muhammad Ali ❤️🙏

[@Trekzity]

🕊🕊🕊

[@abdulrahmanothman5675]

Allah yarxam

[@danielbailey8650]

Draft dogging pussy

[@MullahSaeedIsmael]

facts

[@magideditz]

Muhammad Ali ❤

[@johnnycrazze4587]

90 victories before your first lost is insane enough said

[@Averiexus]

he lost after 40 and went like another 80 undefeated

[@MetalizedButt]

But he didn’t fight the roster like floyd did lmao. I could beat taxi drivers 90 times before I lost too couldn’t I.

[@ssreaper3557]

​@@MetalizedButtfighters were way tougher when Ray Robinson boxed. What are you even saying? Nobody boxed to win by decision everybody was trying to take your head off

[@Br0k3n.h4rt3d]

He the one who went 170 some and 1? Bruh record is insane

[@Pey-Gang]

@@MetalizedButt Butt but he didn't fought with 🚖 taxi driver 😂😂😂. Floyd he never rank as one of 10 greatest fighter of all time ..😅😅If he box in the 50s - 60s the same era with Sugar ray Robinson, Floyd Mayweather would not going to win a single fight 😂😂😂😂

[@eskimoblack]

Julio Cesar Chavez no one ever mentions that guy. Literally fought everybody. Didn't turn down any fights. Final record was 111-6 with 80+ knock outs. He even beat Floyd's uncle and trainer Roger Mayweather twice. Embarrassed him

[@gurinder9633]

Elaborate, explain a bit man please

[@eskimoblack]

@Gurinder JCC was this fierce mf out of Mexico. Was born and living on a train with his brothers and sisters and shit. He was literally fighting as much as possible. Every win meant his family gets to eat... it was like Every punch he threw was a memory of a different meal he missed as a kid. he beat Floyd Mayweather uncle/trainer Roger Mayweather twice. Just look up his WL ratio. There is a good documentary about him here on youtube

[@itsjohnson9522]

He had like 100+ fights and knocked out 80 odd of them 😂 dude was a menace lol pretty sure he’s got a son that boxes too

[@olapinme408]

He retire 111 and lost 6 fights but he was at one point 85 or 86-0 he don’t get the credit he deserves and all he’s fights were heads up no running like other boxers ,he beat up mayweather sr twice I believe he gave him a beating.

[@gurinder9633]

Dammm wtf man 😳

[@hypeapex3173]

Nobody seems to remember how nasty Tyson was on his path to the belt. He wanted it more than anyone ever had.

[@coypandora0795]

And beat bums to get there and beat bums to keep the belt

[@ericrollings]

If you’re over the age of 50, you’ll never forget it. In his prime, before Cus passed, Tyson was unstoppable. He was the scariest boxer ever.

[@ericrollings]

@@coypandora0795 turn your Xbox off. Mama has dinner ready.

[@coypandora0795]

@@ericrollings so unstoppable that he lost twice to Holyfield 😂

[@yungtizzy]

@@coypandora0795 dumb ass argument considering that we’re talking about tyson in his prime, before Cus passed

[@jimmyh3108]

Salvador Sanchez,Rocky marciano,finito Lopez,JC chaves,duran,hagler,hearns,

[@damianrivera6459]

The greatest of all time is easily Sugar Ray Robinson. He fought much tougher competition, fought much bigger people, and was a complete fighter.

[@POSHMODS]

And was said to be the greatest by both ali and Louis, that's already enough

[@POSHMODS]

He was the most mythical level fighter I had ever seen before

[@maivveatherjr9821]

90% of boxers back then are white

[@MTT-ic3ci]

SGG, Sam Langford, The windmill, Gene Tunney ooo Lawd this man is correct Sugar Ray Robinson sits on the throne.

[@sam_335xi6]

His left hook was fucking vicious , one of the most devastating left hook I've ever seen

[@hanning_d4184]

George Formen. Dude boxed until he was almost 50 had 81 fights 76 wins and 68 via knockou. He boxed from 1969 to 1997 that’s 28 years as a pro !!!! Let that sink in 🙌🏻

[@abramlittle7102]

He took over a decade off in that time

[@2fadedjose]

Yeah but back then the fighters weren’t as technical they just tried to fuck eachother up😂they had no head movement no iq nun of tht so more than likely if he fought someone tht fights now at his weight he’s getting fucked up

[@bigrandomun9267]

And 2 of those losses were to Holyfield and Ali.

[@bigrandomun9267]

He also gave Joe Frazier the beating of his life. The same Joe Frazier that beat Ali, Foreman beat him like a drum.

[@christiangarcia2763]

He had a 10 year gap 😅

[@mandaloregaming3887]

Every head must bow, every tongue must confess, Ali is the greatest of all time - Iron Mike Tyson

[@lilmigo1020]

Stop being corny joe

[@KingCuba]

Nah, ain’t corny….Fuckin Facts. Mike was spittin

[@sosman747]

Floyd still the greatest in boxing but ehh, it’s boxing. Any other sport would use their brains and see the stats n facts, but in boxing, fan’s are just gay for their fav childhood boxer lol

[@mattegelhoff8629]

​@@sosman747 sounds about dumb

[@ashalmalik19]

​@@lilmigo1020he said this in an interview, its on youtube you can find it

[@magst734]

Ali literally fought in the best hw ever of all time

[@angelic_disappointment7889]

@juanocampo2262hell no 🗿🗿🗿

[@forshigity5000]

He Lost too

[@Brotherken1234]

@juanocampo2262 Mid 90's? Please put the crack pipe down!

[@zaidsiraj3059]

When Joe's gonna come out smokin

[@robertmcanarney7589]

Lb for lb: 1.Sugar Ray Robinson 2Julio Caesar Chavez 3.Salvador Sanchez

[@kgothatsomahlangu2309]

Tyson number 1

[@loveitNhateit]

Duran is the only fighters who have ever gone up 11 different weight classes

[@H.K.5]

Henry Armstrong?

[@Rodageado]

​@@loveitNhateitnot even close.

[@L47M]

No man in human history would ever beat a 20yr old Mike Tyson.. NO ONE.

[@birdiec]

Agreed. Prime Mike Tyson with Cus Damato and Kevin Rooney in his corner would beat any man in a boxing match. Only way to *maybe* defeat him at all is in MMA if youre bigger than him, can take a punch, and have Khabib level grappling. But in pure boxing or even against kickboxers who are throwing kicks, i dont think anyone in history beats him

[@jrobinson4801]

If mike tyson fought george foreman it would be foreman vs frazier all over again. Cus said it himself that somebody that uses a style like mike will NEVER beat foreman, and mike accepted that which is why they never fought even though george was calling him out every chance he got

[@L47M]

@@jrobinson4801 Yea i hear u but Nahh.. Foreman is not close to that level.

[@yozza4978]

Exactly...if you put all boxers in their prime in a fight..tyson would win, nobody coukd have beat prime 20 year old tyson.

[@SpannerzIsHappy]

Foreman, lewis, Sonny liston, Vitali Klitschko, Evander holyfield. All these guys beat him

[@shawnbrown9061]

It’s crazy to believe that we was robbed of the opportunity to see Ali in his prime

[@SammyFash]

Fuck the us government

[@POSHMODS]

Absolutely agree with you bro, this n*gga is pretty delusional

[@JoeBuck-uc3bl]

It’s crazy to think of Sonny Liston’s career if they put him in a gym with a good trainer at 18 years old.

[@dostoyevsky7319]

​@@JoeBuck-uc3blyea he was 45 when he fought ali

[@user-bk9fk2tq2z]

I don't like Ali's fighting style...rope-a-dope and excessive leaning on smaller opponents (what he did to Frazier) is illegal under Marquess of Queensbury rules. Grabimire Clinchko copied that wrestling/leaning/clinching style.

[@Mighty_on_YT]

”Every head must bow,Every tongue must confess,He is the greatest of all time"~Mike Tyson.

[@Josef_Stylin]

Not floyd

[@Raymund38TVM]

​@@Josef_Stylinbro it's hard to explain who is the real greatest of all time boxer, Mike Tyson said Muhammad Ali, while Muhammad Ali said Manny Pacquiao. While Manny Pacquiao said Sugar Rey Robinson and Muhammad Ali. While Floyd Mayweather Jr claimed that he is the greatest of all time boxer 😂

[@Raymund38TVM]

​@@Josef_Stylinbut we all know all mentioning names even, Muhammad Ali, Mike Tyson, Sugar Rey Robinson, Floyd Mayweather Jr, Manny Pacquiao, Roberto Duran, Roy Jones Jr etc is on the top 10 list of greatest of all time boxer it depends on the people who is.

[@Josef_Stylin]

@@Raymund38TVM Yeah but... its still not Floyd

[@ATATURKdusmanlarininAMK_NJ]

​@@Raymund38TVMu kidding right lol Ali never said pac is the goat

[@TonyGauge]

Salvador Sanchez!

[@theperfectwinger9645]

Wowuuu 😢 that’s a helluva fighter

[@RapidFlix]

You get better depending on the people around you. Iron sharpens iron

[@stephencox8723]

Ali before his “hiatus” was the greatest talent boxing had ever seen then comes a young Tyson and finally RJJ in his prime years. those were the most impressive guys in my opinion. that’s my top 3.

[@fordifly1368]

Who is Mike Tyson’s greatest victory? He isn’t even the best of his era

[@show24567]

​@@fordifly1368exactly....i always say that Lennox Lewis and holyfield were better than mike, mike is just more well known

[@fordifly1368]

@@show24567 facts

[@markvando6075]

​@show245 And who were Holyfield and Lewis greatest victories agsinst? Lewis who was older wanted nothing to do with a prime Tyson. Even after 4 years being inactive, it still took Lewis EIGHT!!! RDS to dismantle a shot boxer in Tyson.

[@garethdavies4540]

​@@fordifly1368 amen. The myth of Mike Tyson is very much out there.

[@aharonmercy6433]

Mike : he'll die for that shit, I ain't die for that

[@Fonzleberry]

Yeah, but Mike wasn't the same after prison. Ali, Frazier, and Holyfield might have been exemplary in heart, but 80s Tyson had the most unreal defence while being in the pocket. I don't care if you're Evander, Joe, or Ali, you're not going to take many of Mike's hook to the body uppercut combos before being laid out.

[@newgunguy4176]

I don't think people understand how good Wilfredo Benitez was. World champion at 17 years old.

[@Krapider]

mike tyson at 17 looking like a 30 yr old

[@Qwertymnbvczzlkjg]

The GOAT is Sugar Ray Robinson Floyd is arguably the greatest DEFENSIVE boxer of all time, but all time GOAT? I don’t think so.

[@Darealstreetmoney]

The most skilled for sure

[@matthewjacofsky9828]

who do u got

[@sleeperino3054]

@@matthewjacofsky9828 probably Sugar Ray Robinson, the tomato can king 😂

[@Kaikai349]

@@sleeperino3054 Yes SRR is the goat

[@simplyfitness892]

@@sleeperino3054 cannot be talking about tomato cans when floyd is in the discussion.

[@kennyphaho3604]

“I Am The Greatest” No one comes close to my GOAT Mr Ali❤

[@m.o.b.5011]

Amen🎉

[@coreythomas3633]

Floyd better

[@aharonmercy6433]

​@@coreythomas3633 floid got lost against manny in my eyes.. I watched that fight over and over manny beat his ass that's what I can see

[@ATATURKdusmanlarininAMK_NJ]

​@@coreythomas3633 first of all floyd gayweather wasn't heavyweight and second his a bum just like u

[@O2H3]

​@coreythomas3633 Floyd who?

[@jacobmcleod5885]

Nobody ever talks about Roberto Duran, he had 70 wins before he lost and he fought some killas.

[@TheSurgePhoenix]

It’ll always be Julio Caesar Chavez for me. He put up crazy numbers and was an extremely well rounded boxer

[@ricsosick]

i love joe’s eternal respect for ali and tyson, he always gives them their flowers

[@POSHMODS]

He's 2 favorites are mike and floyd, when he's talking about offense he's talking about tyson, bit when he talks about defense he just talks about floyd, he barely mentions ali, he's delusional when he says that floyd has the best defense of all time, there are so many fighters that has better defense that this dude, 1 nicolino locche 2 willi pep 3 pernell whitaker 4 Muhammad Ali 5 floyd mayweather, see? He ain't even at the top 3

[@POSHMODS]

No hate to floyd btw, I love and respect him, but I just don't agree with Joe here, floyd in my opinion is one of the best fighters of all time, but nothing close to being greatest ever, what does he mean "it's arguable he is" tf?

[@dostoyevsky7319]

​@@POSHMODS 8 years ago joe said rhonda rousey would fuck floyd up in a boxing match. What happened to that?

[@philmullineaux5405]

Robinson, Dempsey, Marciano, Johnson. And the Mexican dude, that went like 90 and 1

[@sginrummy88]

right? depends on how we define "greatness"... because to me, greatness is being a black heavyweight in 1908 and starching white dudes while the crowd is yelling for you to get lynched. jack johnson may not have been the most technical boxer, but he was one of the greatest.

[@BerryMcCockiner]

​@doosh canoe That's facts. Depending on the definition, the "GOAT" can vary drastically. Jack Johnson had the heart of Alexander the Great

[@sirnesu]

@@sginrummy88 which boxer was that

[@sikeyno.8797]

Julio

[@philmullineaux5405]

@@BerryMcCockiner he also fought in the time of bare knuckles, and unlimited rounds. Even tho he was usually bigger and stronger than anyone else, his footwork and upper body and head movement was superb for his time. I believe he was taught to box, by gentleman Jim corbitt, an old school English boxer and teacher. Or some other old school English guy. Who taught him, the best way to win at boxing? Don't get hit! Jack was Also Ali's hero.

[@benjamindesanti7899]

Julio Cesar Chavez needs to be in the conversation

[@blncss]

no

[@richieporter7261]

😂

[@blove9199]

It is definitely not Floyd.The way fighters moved and the path they took is way way way tougher than Floyd's era.The ole school boxers were a different breed and can't be touched by today's fighters.

[@maxvarela2372]

“You get better depending on who’s around you”

[@tebogomokoena8350]

True. Look at the levels Izzy has risen to since Alex moved to The UFC!

[@theradninja4666]

​@@tebogomokoena8350 unbelievable levels

[@codyever]

You people always quote the last line huh? Like literally every single video about logical thinking or whatever you people ALWAYS quote the last line.. it's sometimes good to see and other time straight up annoying af!!

[@super2984]

@@codyever your on youtube pulling drama out of your ass , think about your life for a second….😐

[@R-Righteous]

@@tebogomokoena8350 getting fucked up then getting in a nice counter in the rematch? No improvement there kid, he caught Alex in the first fight too, this time Alex went to sleep.

[@guillermotorres9344]

I guess running away is viewed as great defense nowadays

[@SojuNinja]

"You don't know shit about boxing."

[@wickedfreestyle102]

Run where in the ring? Bro you know nothing about defense, you can't appreciate it, all you want to see is CTE morons like you, if u want running go watch Bolt, cuz if it was real talk someone would be "running" their knuckles through ur mouth bro.

[@Daro-iu8hf]

Knock it TF off😂😂😂 go watch the tapes mf. Too much film out here of Floyd DODGING tf out of punches stop crying😂😂Foh who’s ass did he beat that u love so much?

[@TAKAM08]

Muhammad Ali

[@MannyME10]

Julio Cesar Chavez 100+ fights 87 winning streak

[@33a5t]

The greatest boxer of all time is Muhammad Ali.

[@TitansOfHistoryTV]

My list: 1. Sugar Ray Robinson - 173-19-6 (109 KO wins). As an amateur, he went 85-0, with 69 of those victories coming by way of knockout, 40 in the first round. He turned professional at the age of 19 and retired in 1952 with a record of 128-1 with 84 wins by KO (he only lost once to jake lamotta who he beat 5 times after that loss proving he's the better fighter). He retired in 1952, only to come back two-and-a-half years later and regain the middleweight title in 1955 and fight until the age of 44 ending up with a record of 173-19-6 (109 KO wins), 18 out of his 19 losses came when he was way past his prime. Throughout his career he fought and defeated plenty of legendary boxers such as: Carmen Basilio, Gene Fullmer, Bobo Olson, Rocky Graziano, Jake LaMotta, Kid Gavilán, Sammy Angott, Henry Armstrong, and Fritzie Zivic. Robinson won six world titles at two weight classes(in an era that had way less weight classes than boxing has today) 2. Muhaamad Ali - 56-5 (37 KO wins) He’s considered the greatest heavyweight. From 1964-78 he won the title 3 separate times had 22 title defenses, was 11-0 in rematches and defeated such Titans as Sonny Liston, Floyd Patterson, Cleveland Williams, George Foreman, Joe Frazier, Ken Norton, Oscar Bonavena, Jerry Quarry, Joe Bugmer, Ron Lyle, Earnie Shavers. And he accomplished that while losing 3 years in his prime due to his refusal to fight in the vietnam war. He defeated better opposition than anyone in heavyweight history including Joe Louis. All of his losses came past his prime. 3. Henry Armstrong - 150- 21 (100 KO wins) Homicide Hank" went 27-0 (with 26 knockouts) in 1937 and won the featherweight title. The next year the relentless attacker captured Barney Ross' welterweight belt and won the lightweight strap. Boxing had eight weight divisions in 1938; Armstrong held three titles at once. Many felt he should've won the middleweight belt in a 1940 draw. He nonetheless beat 16 champions and made a record 19 welterweight title defenses. A virtuoso talent. 4. Joe Louis - 66-3 (52 KO wins) The longest reigning heavyweight champion, Louis ruled boxing when it stood atop the American sports hierarchy. The vicious puncher won the belt in 1937 and defended it a record 25 times, beating the likes of Billy Conn and Jersey Joe Walcott. He also knocked out the five previous heavyweight champs, including Max Baer and Max Schmeling. After Schmeling beat Louis in 1936, "The Brown Bomber" floored the German two years later in what was probably the most anticipated fight in boxing history. Late-career losses to Ezzard Charles and Rocky Marciano do not detract from one of the sport's defining legacies. 5. Rocky Marciano - 49 - 0 (42 KO wins) Marciano did not have a particularly long run in the upper reaches of his sport, first appearing in Ring Magazine's top 10 heavyweight rankings in 1951 and retiring after his 49th win in 1955. However, "The Brockton Blockbuster" finished his career and defeated greats like: Ezzard Charles, Jersey Joe Walcott and Archie Moore during his title reign. Marciano's record speaks for itself. He is the only heavyweight world champion to retire undefeated and he has the highest KO percentage of any heavyweight world champion. While, if you look closely at Floyd's career a lot of the best people he fought were past their best. Although I think mayweather junior is a great boxer, I think his fights have been very cleverly and carefully chosen and taken at just the right time, de la hoya was pas his prime when fighting floyd, pacquiao started at flyweight so he was much smaller than floyd although he gave him a tough fight, he also was past his prime at the time of their fight. Nevertheless my point is that floyd is a very good boxer but he can't be compared to legends such as Ali, Sugar ray, Joe louis etc.

[@TechieTard]

I won't go into a bio as you did, too much typing 1.) Marvelous Marvin Hagler 2.) Sugar Ray Robinson 3.) Salvador Sanchez - Potential unkonwn 4.) El Finito Lopez 5.) Canelo....Yes, I said Canelo. Highest victory rate OVER pound for pound best and opponents containing the best win lose ratio in the past 20 years, yes, I did the research and was surprised at the records of the people he had beat. 4 division titles as he climbed in weight, no, you don't cherry pick the champions you are given an opportunity against them. First to ever and only to ever unify the middle weight belts and become the undisputed middle weight champion of the world. I second that. Mayweather was more occupied with keeping his record spotless and would selectively pick inexperienced boxers or over the prime boxers. Just go look at the stats of the fighters he fought.

[@Mousevengeance]

A proper list but you lost me at Marciano, sorry.

[@palestinekimkc]

Absolute no fckin way floyd is not in the list....but afterall its your openion and i respect it 🫀

[@palestinekimkc]

Absolute no fckin way floyd is not in the list....but afterall its your openion and i respect it 🫀

[@yoskiUCy_TfipEEJ9f]

Rocky is top 5? Seriously you people just watch yt shorts ken Norton beat Muhammad and had 2 close decision with him why is he not on your list no foreman no floyd no Manny

[@thesauce2477]

To me, Prime Mike Tyson is the pinnacle of boxing. Muhammad Ali was the greatest. But Tyson in his prime was a pure unstoppable force regardless of the opponent.

[@myrusEW]

“In his prime” okay and? Is Jeremy Lin the greatest basketball player because he’s the only one to wave off Kobe? No. It was one thing. Idk why idiots think you can just splice out all other information except the information they want and say that’s their opinion.

[@gokussjinfinite6601]

But mike Tyson said manny Pacquiao is the most sensational boxer for him no boxer can match Pacquiao demon speed

[@thesauce2477]

@@myrusEW I answered the question you moron, read the question the post asked then read my comment. "Who's the greatest" "Muhammad Ali" I didn't splice out any information at all, I simply gave my opinion while answering the question. You can have your own opinion of course, but I don't think I'd care as much for yours as you did mine. So go ahead Myrus... who's the greatest boxer of all time?

[@thesauce2477]

@@gokussjinfinite6601 that's cool that Tyson said that, but still don't change my mind.

[@ethanlittlewood9736]

We never got to see a prime tyson tho unfortunate circumstances ment we never got to see it

[@TrueXL]

Sometimes I wished Muhammad Ali retired from boxing when he was stripped of his boxing license because people always judge Ali basic on just George Forman, Joe Frazier, Ken Norton fights. Not realizing that Ali lost a lot on foot speed , stamina, and natural reflexes basically judging a Nerfed version of him where he got hit a lot and suffered a lot of damage from his opponents. Idk it's weird we reflect on Mike Tyson during his Iron Mike days but Ali is never judged for his time where no one can touch him and all his strikes was opening big cuts on his opponents faces. Muhammad Ali has never been cut or knocked out and we know for a fact he had at least 3 matches with Parkinson's disease in full effect.

[@BeforeThisNovember]

“You get better depending on who’s around you” This is applicable to life in general. It’s just hard to find new friends, particularly ones who are better than you and can help elevate you. One of the hardest things, actually.

[@malcolmjohnson943]

sometimes they find you

[@NotedEdits.]

Rocky Marciano?

[@ZazaManW]

Bro forgot about George Forman

[@strikingmagician9816]

Muhammad Ali the goat. Resume & accolades combined will surpass anybody’s. As well as what he did in the fights is insane. Everyone knows him for his speed, evasiveness, great footwork & athleticism but no one knows he’s arguably the most durable boxer of all time. With the most heart & grit, he’ll fight to his literal death.

[@rayromano6249]

Rogan just doesn't know what he's talking about sometimes

[@marcosleon215]

Na Ali was great and bigger than boxing but Floyd was the best

[@strikingmagician9816]

@@marcosleon215 Floyd ain’t the greatest. Yes he was 5 division champ but there’s a lot of things I think weigh him down & that’s the fact that his record factually shouldn’t be 50-0. Also even with that, he wouldn’t be above SRR or Ali. Floyd should’ve at least drawed against Manny & lost to Maidana & Castillo 1 off of the official judging criteria. Manny Vs Floyd was hella corrupted by compubox giving incorrect numbers. The punches landed stats in the Mayweather fight were not accurate as reported by compubox. They had Floyd landing more by about 140 to only 81 for Pacquiao. That's only about 6 1/2 punches landed per round for Pacquiao, anyone that saw the fight knows that's ridiculous. 2 unofficial punches-landed surveys done by unbiased sources reversed the totals, having Pac landing 30 to 35 more punches than Floyd. These 2 independent totals nearly matched and should be considered far more accurate IMO. Around the world the majority of countries believed that Pacquiao won the fight, as did Floyd's father, who berated him in his corner mid-fight saying he was losing the fight and fighting as if he was scared of Pacquiao.. Shane Mosely and Evander Holyfield had ringside seats and said Pacquiao won as well. Also on the primary judging criteria which is significant punches landed, it’s 6-6 & nearly a 7-5 Manny & look at the other judging criteria like Ring Generalship, effective aggression & defence, Manny displayed better effective aggression to nullify Floyd’s defence for more rounds then vice versa. Maidana completely nullified Floyd’s defence for more rounds in both fights & landed more significant punches for more rounds then Floyd did, displayed better effective aggression nearly the entire fight & ring generalship is the same. Also nearly everyone who watched the Castillo vs Floyd 1 saw Castillo won off of effective aggression + ring generalship & significant punches landed for more rounds then Floyd (even thought sig punched landed would not be far off to 6-6). Even if 50-0 & let’s argue with the logic Floyd is 50-0. Still that doesn’t surpass Sugar Ray Robbison or Muhammad Ali. Ali had 19 title defenses within a 15 year title reign, being a 3x heavyweight champion & 11-0 in rematches in worse physical conditions to his first encounters with then. He has wins over Archie Moore, Henry Cooper 2x, Sonny Liston 2x, Floyd Patterson 2x, Karl Mildenburger, Cleveland Williams, Zora Foley, Jerry Quarry 2x, Oscar Bonavena, Jimmy Ellis, Buster Mathis, Smokin Joe Frazier 2x, Ken Norton 2x, George Foreman, Chuck Wepner, Ron Lyle, Joe Burgner, Jimmy Young & Earnie Shavers. Ali fought in the hardest era of boxing, with consistent stylists disadvantages with his physical condition that I’ll explain if you ask for it. No one surpassed Ali. Sugar Ray Robison Sugar Ray Robison is a 2 division champ within those 2 divisions, he has 12 title defenses, he has beaten many great opponents that are great in their own rights like Joey Giardello, Denny Moyer, Gene Fulmer, Rocky Castellani, Rocky Graziano, Bobo Olsen 2x, Randolph Turpin, Jake LaMotta 5x, Hans Stretz, Bobby Dykes, Steve Belloise, Kid Gavilán 2x, Young Gee Buffalo, Bernard Doucusen, Henry Armstrong, Maxie Berger, Fritzie Zivic 2x & Carl Guggino.

[@kerney412]

​@@strikingmagician9816 i see your 1 of those guys who hate floyd so much when he beat manny yall still in denial lmao anyone who watched the fight knew who won the fight on Pacquiao fans will even try and pretend he came close 2 winning the fight lol

[@coreythomas3633]

​@@strikingmagician9816 Floyd the greatest

[@thegoat6116]

Ali is the greatest without a doubt

[@wlam4321]

But Sugar Ray Robinson was a Straight SAVAGE he just straight BEAT GUYS ASS !!! TOOK THEIR SOULS and then that hair NO COMPARISON!!!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@TheRealPrinceG]

By the time he got to his 130th fight, he was 129-1

[@gavinwynecoop1213]

Everybody's forgetting about Salvador Sanchez😢

[@CanadianHunter69]

Lennox Lewis is so slept on

[@markvando6075]

Bad losses to McCall and Rahman. Took a long time to reach his peak. Questionable victories over Holyfield and Klitchko.

[@bcb5696]

@@markvando6075 lmaooo you must not actually watch boxing the Holyfield fight was commonly known as a robbery and he beat him even more decisively the second time

[@CanadianHunter69]

@Mark Vando He smashed them both in the rematch, avenged his only losses, beat a prime Vitali, prime Holyfield, Bowe, Tyson...Olympic Gold, he's incredibly slept on

[@markvando6075]

@Joshua Stephan Ya, he really showed McCall who's boss in their 2nd fight. Klitchko he was losing and got lucky on the cut. Gold Medalist? So was Tyrell Biggs. While Lewis knew who Tyson was, he chose to stay amateur rather than turning Pro 4 years later than Tyson.

[@trex511ft]

lol, glass jaw lewis will never even make top 20. Tall freak with big reach, terrible technique and if you manage to get to that weak ass jaw.. bang!

[@jad563]

The great boxer of all time is Sugar Ray Robinson and it is not debatable. Ali spoke the best but it doesn’t put him above SRR

[@belakhdaryoucef2668]

SRR is ali's idol

[@larrysmith5393]

It is debatable. What did Robinson do that makes him so much greater than Mayweather?

[@riyadriyad5911]

​@@larrysmith5393 his record , his style Floyd was and only a defensive fighter sugar ray was a counter puncher, a brawler he had the power in both hands that are almost impossible to obtain comparing it to his size and he was really fast with a marvelous footwork and great defense and he can switch whenever he wants to defense into offense and is really aggressive while being smart he had a good chin and got a hell of a stamina , Floyd would get rocked if he fought sugar ray

[@djrulez6653]

​@@larrysmith5393 Floyd had 50 fights and sure no loses but was known for cherry picking opponents he felt like he could most likely beat and usually only won on points, Sugar Ray Robinson had 201 fights won 174 and only really started losing way towards the end when he was very old for a boxer, he went 40 wins before his first lose on points and then went another 80+ before he ever lost again and because of the amount he fought he had some of the best actual fighting technique and had one of the best well rounded styles ever

[@senatorarmstrong2100]

Nah I am pretty sure its Marvin hagler

[@ericksantos3324]

Roberto Duran has to be up there

[@jp-xe9hi]

Salvador Sanchez was an absolute machine easy in top 3

[@kellohitty69]

That guy is the greatest boxer in terms of pure talent.

[@baddie21358]

​@@kellohitty69not at all Cab drivers

[@Kozimod]

Roy Jones Jr in his prime “y’all must of forgot”

[@raythomas5090]

I think he went a whole decade without losing a round. A ROUND…….

[@Bobby.2000]

Ah classic Joe talking like he knows boxing.

[@FlakBoxing]

🤣🤣 you’ll get used to it eventually.

[@funthings5660]

he knows fighting and mma

[@Bobby.2000]

@@funthings5660 doesn't know shit about boxing though, so your point is as invalid as any Joe has ever made about boxing.

[@FlakBoxing]

@@funthings5660 i’m not going to be the one who has to explain everything for you because you can’t comprehend certain subjects and statements.

[@lefork2762]

I find it funny that joe acted like tyson would have been this crazy un heard of challenge for ali. Tyson didn't really bring much to the table that we hadn't seen ali deal with, and for the people that like to talk about tysons power, tyson himself said big george hit harder than him.

[@jimmyv1753]

Sanchez is definitely the most underrated boxers of all time. Most people don’t even know who he was. It’s too bad. Look him up if you’re a fan and love good boxing. Salvador Sanchez was just fun to watch

[@Tone7580]

Sugar Ray Robinson is the true 🐐

[@Raymund38TVM]

It's Robinson and Pacquiao in my opinion, they both boxer show a humbleness but they also show a greatness in all fans of boxing, Robinson didn't ever claimed that he is the greatest of all time, same thing from Manny Pacquiao he didn't even claimed that he is the greatest of all time boxer, while all boxers like Muhammad Ali, Roberto Duran, Floyd Mayweather alwaysly self proclaimed that they're the greatest of all time boxer they didn't respect the achievements of the boxers belonging in top 10 goat of boxing. Yes Muhammad Ali Respect Manny Pacquiao as a one of the greatest of all time he also on the side on Pacquiao not in Mayweather also Tyson respect Manny Pacquiao. While no greatest boxers respect Mayweather 😂 and considered Mayweather as One of the GOAT in Boxing or even number 1 GOAT in Boxing only himself 😂 that's a self proclaimed.

[@LoveBoxing_tired_of_fans]

Im a humble man myself, but I that RING humbleness don't mean SHHITT about the level of fighter or how great u are 💯

[@Hello_combat_sports_fans]

He fought unknown fighters 😂 Muhammad Ali is the greatest boxers of all time bro Muhammad Ali fought I think in most difficult era of boxing right? So he deserves to be greatest boxer of all time

[@Tone7580]

@@Hello_combat_sports_fans they both fight 8 hall of famers. Ray Robinson fought in the more difficult era and started his career 40- 0 in his first 2 years! Then he took his first loss (to Jake LaMotta by the way) after which point he won 88 straight fights and was 128-1 when he lost his 2nd fight!!! He's the true🐐, and Ali even called him the Master!!!

[@Hello_combat_sports_fans]

@@Tone7580 They maybe fought 8 hall of famers both but you have wrong knowledge that sugar fought in most difficult era it was Ali who fought in difficult era also When sugar was 31 he lost by ko now tell me except larry Holmes where Ali lost by RTD?? Fighting so much bouts doesn’t make you great and record you will find many boxers in history who fought more than sugar and you will also found who had more wins than sugar but that doesn’t make them great it’s make you great when you fought tough competition or against great opponents and I no need to tell you about Ali opponents so Ali was better than him And Ali was just giving him respect

[@stevenwoods5787]

its gotta be ali. as great as floyd was, it cant be ignored that he was picky with when he fought certain guys. ali went thru the damn gauntlet, no questions about it. another to keep in mind, theres a HUGE difference in being hit by a man thats 140, 150 lbs and hit by a man thats 220, 230 lbs plus

[@FlakBoxing]

A• Individual Champions Beat - 14 B• Individual Champions Beat - 10 A• Wins Against Champions - 32 B• Wins Against Champions - 14 A• Individual Hall of Famers Beat - 16 B• Individual Hall of Famers Beat - 7 A• Wins Against Hall of Famers - 33 B• Wins Against Hall of Famers - 11 A• Individual P4P Fighters Beat - 17 B• Individual P4P Fighters Beat - 7 A• Wins Against P4P Fighters - 40 B• Wins Against P4P Fighters - 11 A• Rounds Against Champs/HOF - 964 B• Total Rounds Fought in Career - 548 A• Harry Greb B• Muhammad Ali There are levels to this.

[@joeblowschmo7542]

Floyd is the goat of combat sports the numbers shows he was definitely the most watched

[@uh9104]

If we’re talking goat of boxing mumhmad Ali or sugar ray Leonard and maybe George Foreman for what he did don’t get me wrong Floyd up there though

[@derekallen1652]

In the boxing world I don't think anybody can be compared with Muhammad Ali. I've been watching that man since I was a little bitty kid. I still think he's the greatest boxer of all time

[@FlakBoxing]

Then you simply know nothing about boxing. A• Individual Champions Beat - 14 B• Individual Champions Beat - 10 A• Wins Against Champions - 32 B• Wins Against Champions - 14 A• Individual Hall of Famers Beat - 16 B• Individual Hall of Famers Beat - 7 A• Wins Against Hall of Famers - 33 B• Wins Against Hall of Famers - 11 A• Individual P4P Fighters Beat - 17 B• Individual P4P Fighters Beat - 7 A• Wins Against P4P Fighters - 40 B• Wins Against P4P Fighters - 11 A• Rounds Against Champs/HOF - 964 B• Total Rounds Fought in Career - 548 A• Harry Greb B• Muhammad Ali There are levels to this.

[@Mardyfacker]

​@@FlakBoxing "you know nothing about boxing" because he didnt know the resume of a guy who fought 100 years ago Boxing fans like you are strange asf

[@Pablo-lv3ub]

Ali is probably the only man who could have beaten Prime Mike and Prison Mike

[@nedialkosimonov3893]

Ali is the GOAT - Mike Tyson

[@columkenn]

Foreman and Sonny Liston would likely have done very well against Tyson

[@Pablo-lv3ub]

@@columkenn yeah I agree other than Ali, Frazier Foreman and Liston would probably be prime Tysons top 3 Toughest Fights I mean Frazier pulled pf a win against Ali so who knows and Liston and Foreman were just Outclassed

[@johnconway9882]

Who did Tyson beat that makes any of these lists? Larry Holmes came out of retirement at age 38, well past HIS prime to fight Tyson. Frank Bruno and Donovan "Razor" Ruddick were probably his best challengers.

[@NotStrongerThanROME]

​@@johnconway9882 fr Mike is too Overhyped

[@Dunis50]

"You are just a scared man, little scared man."

[@honerabletate6334]

Julio and jones jr are two of the most underrated greats in all of history

[@johnshea0905]

Sugar Ray is the best puns for pound ever

[@johnstaples-tl1lv]

U get better depending on whose around u, wow that’s so true.

[@tonyd9580]

To be the GOAT, one shouldn’t duck other boxers in their prime.

[@kevsis123]

Good point about who's in the same league. You gotta have good competition to get better.

[@prannoyroy9347]

Now Joe has become a boxing pundit too.

[@conflict7269]

Go all the way back to those guys that fought unlimited rounds with no gloves those guys were on another level entirely i know the skills have changed for sure but i always admired those old black and white footage of the greats throwing down

[@romztt8768]

I swear, everyone is the greatest of all time in Joe’s eyes😂😂

[@fangsvengeful4465]

Well hes right Mayweather should fight Rhonda rousey before she claims the goat status That will make joe happy

[@Mr.B.Edits824]

Julio César Chávez left the chat

[@blncss]

damn sure did

[@PazHussain]

How to win an argument You get better because who is around. Your opponents drive you to be better

[@ivanconde1580]

You can't base floyd being the greatest off going 50-0 when a couple other fighters did that and went past that 50 (most ended up losing at some point) still tho idk the exact number but I know Robinson had a win streak over 50

[@Isolo420]

2 of thems in one career

[@joshuajarod1909]

Most world champions ever beaten also

[@rileyrobinson4300]

it’s not just based on 50-0 it’s what he did in those fights and the near perfection he consistently has had

[@jeffabreu5930]

Dude the Thing is who he fought

[@BC-tp4rb]

What’s the background music??

[@ekrous427]

Did you ever find it ?

[@wavyyone]

Sugar Ray Robinson has 201 fights in total and 109 wins by KO

[@wolfkingt]

I agree with this. You have to beat the best to be the best

[@sleeperino3054]

The goal of boxing is to hit and not get hit. Floyd’s ratio of punches landed on opponents to punches landed on him are higher than any other boxer. Beating the most world champions out of any boxer ever also doesn’t hurt his claim to goat.

[@placidusax9]

Sound a little wrong to me. The ratio won’t go up anymore if you KO ur opponent in the first few punches

[@sleeperino3054]

@@placidusax9 the ratio would neither go up or go down if you KO your opponent vs not having knocked them out.

[@Lee-One]

Yeah but also power and explosiveness and movement and stamina and other factors but I guess you’re right but if you don’t have any power you can have good a good punch ratio but still not a good win/loss ratio

[@Lee-One]

@@sleeperino3054and that’s also why it’s flawed

[@lucky6961]

that the principle, but hitting more isn't equivalent to power, you could apply that to boxers that punch less, however they have a higher accuracy, meaning they are hard to dodge, or apply it to guys like tyson that went for a heavy offensive and would rarely give time to get punched or you can go even as far as simultaneous hits, a lot of knockouts happen in that way since it's the moment the guard is set the lowest some boxers have insane reflexes, others unbreakable defenses and others that hit fast or heavy that's why someone like Ali is called the greatest, the fastest heavy weight that punched like a bull, while others point towards sugar ray robison for his insane reflexes and even between other ages of boxing like mike's peekabo

[@jayhickey5012]

Floyd is the greatest marathon runner boxing has ever seen.

[@htmm5167]

You either a casual or a Filipina housewife

[@Grizzlied555]

Rocky Marciano

[@carlitoselnica9840]

Ray Robinson is the best fighter pound for pound of all time. The man had dynamite in both hands. He can knock you out going backwards...

[@blueninja87]

Joe smoking the wrong type of pot if he thinks floyd is the best

[@CorporateComedy]

he lost at least 2 times and got robbery decisions in his favour. castillo 1 and del la hoya (beat the shit out of him).

[@sleeperino3054]

Both were close fights that you can edge out to Floyd easily. Neither one “beat the shit” out of Floyd. I would say he got the dogshit beat out of him against Maidana and avenged it in their second fight.

[@j92bloxk70]

Lol. Bs and you know it

[@tandavmusic5463]

You didn't say dela hoya😂, he beat the crap out of hoya

[@SaintSC05]

Buddy I had money on Del La Hoya. I wanted him to win, but he got his ass kicked.

[@lightner6924]

​@@sleeperino3054You prove the point that he won based on a robbery. He was beat and they give it him based on money and corruption. Fair play though as he got robbed in the Olympics.

[@stillakilla]

Tyson was fighting people twice his size and knocking them all out cold. Tyson should be the goat just because how terrifying he was to even the bravest man.

[@r.b.2627]

Sugar Ray Robinson, Chavez, Ali, Sam Langford, Mayweather and Mike Tyson.

[@m.a.n._ht7084]

Greatest boxer who nobody wants to mention is and will always be Julio César Chávez

[@32gigs96]

He lost to every big name

[@NateS917]

Hes an all time great, but i wouldnt say the greatest

[@nmk420]

What happened when he fought pernell Whitaker again you can’t say he didn’t lose that 😂

[@GgCashh451]

LMAO WHAT

[@fangsvengeful4465]

People only talk about julio cause of tyson said it Hes not known for a reason No big fights Being goat is having the biggest fights and facing the best wich ali did

[@imokay3193]

We all know it's Muhammad Ali, he'll always be the greatest of all time. 💙

[@imokay3193]

@@Anti.Vegans "Mike Tyson wants to know your location"

[@elviseugene1233]

Willie Pep's name always gets left out😤 Total fights- 241 Wins- 229 Wins by KO- 65 Losses- 11 Draws-1 boxed a total of 1,956 rounds in the 241 bouts

[@scrappy1416]

A simple google search of Sugar Ray Robinsons record can end the GOAT conversation for most people lmao. That man dominated the sport like no other.

[@ShayJ777]

Marciano

[@user-ix2ty3ry9f]

Yeh buddy💯

[@user-mz4vi9nb5c]

kid no tyson

[@Hello_combat_sports_fans]

He fought against unknown fighters and 97-98% were bums Ali is greatest boxer of all time he fought in most difficult era bro It’s Ali Also sugar lost by knockout his one match but Ali never lost by knockout he only lost by larry by knockout because he was suffering from parkison diseases so Ali is clearly greatest boxer of all time

[@-TrikzE]

If Ur around better Boxers then you Ur naturally gonna improve if u watch and try

[@Malik-lu8ev]

Prime Mike Tyson was one of the greatest warriors who ever lived

[@AnakinAtheistWiccan]

Marciano, Tunney. TOPS

[@anonymouse21286]

Mike was the definition of having that dawg in you. Funny people would run up on him in the streets thinking he wouldn't do nothing and he would put them out cold.

[@ShikichiAkuma]

Man, Rocky Marciano is underrated af, he retired undefeated, if he didn't retire early he could've been better, man just keeps going even if his punches looked like ass.

[@Kalaqko]

🤣🤣

[@WiTTeNx]

surprised manny pacquiao is never mentioned. guy won titles in 8 different divisions, from 100 something lbs al the way to 154. may not be the great of all time, but sure deserves to be in the discussion

[@jackwalker6475]

I often talk about the weight classes we went through with my friend, he says that definitely put him in top ten P4P ever category. I don’t necessarily disagree but he shouldn’t have fought featherweight never mind flyweight if his coaches had his best interest in mind. He went pro in the January of 95 a few days after turning 16, he should have been training for the 96 Olympics maybe even the 2000 games before turning pro. My point is not many talents slip through and don’t get picked up by a gym with trainers who plan a career not just throw him in the ring for some cash as soon as he’s 16. I think many boxers could have been champs at that many weights but their trainers actually planned when they would go pro and at what weight. Manny was literally grew out of his first weight classes. De La Hoya did 6 weights turning pro at almost 4 years older than Manny, could he have done 8 if he went pro at 16? Maybe it’s definitely debatable. Any way PacMan is definitely in the conversation for top ten P4P ever, I just don’t think enough people think about the reason for his 8 weights, it’s definitely impressive but also immoral and probably child abuse for a 16 year old fighting against men for money no matter how good he is.

[@michaelbarnes2126]

Pacquio is the greatest fighter of our generation. I stand by that. Not only did he brawl, but his hand speed, angles, chin and combinations were some of the best I’ve ever seen. I’m not a huge boxing fan more of a casual but I watched a lot of PAC-Man he definitely deserves top 10 p4p consideration

[@JeffSmith-eq3kc]

​@@michaelbarnes2126How can you make that argument when he lost quite convincingly to Floyd?

[@michaelbarnes2126]

@@JeffSmith-eq3kc ummm not if any Pacquio got robbed go rewatch the fight loser cause Manny was throwing and landing more shots while Floyd was just covering up and counter punching

[@coreythomas3633]

​@@michaelbarnes2126 no he not

[@Canyouhereit]

I love that phase you get better by who's around you

[@orionsimerl6539]

Nobody was better than RJJ. Had he retired after winning the HW title, there wouldn't even be a goat debate in boxing because during his prime he was so much better than his competition compared to the difference between other fighters and their competition. We shouldn't hold fighters fights after their prime against them when considering their peak and the duration of that peak.

[@michaelbarnes2126]

It’s still Ali, idc what anyone says. He sacrificed his career to stand up for what he believed in. Won the belt 3 separate times and was a blurr of a heavyweight in his prime he was so fast Probably the most durable boxer ever too took some ass beating to secure impressive wins

[@lsanchez1822]

Julio Cesar Chavez

[@SonOvaSon]

The greatest is Ali’s trademark so it should stay that way but the best boxer who ever lived so far is Floyd imo

[@michaelbarnes2126]

@@SonOvaSon false

[@SonOvaSon]

@@michaelbarnes2126 Understandable, have a nice day 👍

[@michaelbarnes2126]

@@SonOvaSon do you realize how much he tries to cheat and got away with it?

[@user-ix2ty3ry9f]

1. Sugar Ray Robinson 2. Muhammad Ali 3. George Foreman 4. Mike Tyson 5. Sonny Liston "My Favourite Boxers"..... 💯🔥🐐.....

[@gluttonyfang6674]

I see all these fighters unleashing an onslaught of punches, and then I see Floyd fighting like he's a 9-year-old kid fiercely avoiding a flying cockroach.

[@jeffpallija9625]

Ali is the greatest boxer hands down period. There is no debate.

[@niccolodeparmapanini2036]

Julio Cesar Chavez 107-2-6

[@joshuawood1436]

Yes there is a debate. Ali doesn’t beat a prime Mike Tyson, I don’t anyone does. Tyson Fury would beat Ali, and deserves to be in the running. The only thing about Ali that surpasses Tyson was his resolve, Tyson couldn’t handle interpersonal conflict it is his weakness. Ali could weather anything in or out of the ring, defeats, deaths, celebrity, and he could adapt and overcome. He is an amazing boxer, but a close second to Mike Tyson in his prime.

[@dorian8787]

Lol just a loudmouth good boxer. Definitely not the best

[@yungbane6625]

@@joshuawood1436young Foreman demolishes Tyson in the second round

[@slothpower9344]

​@@joshuawood1436Mike Tyson didn't beat anyone on the level of Ali, Foreman, and Frazier

[@authenticdom]

You get better depending who’s around you.

[@GustavoSilva-ny8jc]

That's FUCKING AMAZING, the end was so amazing, "he would be better cause Tyson was around". If you endure the struggle, opponents make you better **cue the guts theme** This is just like Fear & Hunger, no other game captures this spirit as much.