Who is the Most Tragic Hunger Games Character?

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0:00 Video Synopsis
0:41 Haymitch Abernathy
3:09 Annie Cresta
5:34 Johanna Mason
9:18 Finnick Odair
13:26 Peeta Mellark

[@themythologynerd7020]

In my opinion, Johanna was the most tragic. She was tortured, lost her loved ones, betrayed and left the world alone.

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Yep. And Katniss broke her promise to kill Snow for her.

[@juliaolson1427]

@@SpammytheHedgehog I do understand why Katniss breaking her promise hurt Johanna, Katniss had a good reason to break the promise. Johanna was the most tragic in my opinion. But I do believe that Annie should have been more tragic than Peeta because he had his wife and Annie did not have Finnick.

[@Sp3c9000]

​@@SpammytheHedgehog yup. As much as I was glad that Katniss offed Coin instead, because that woman was just as bad as (if not worse in some ways than) Snow, I can see it from Joanna's perspective and that must've "cut deep".

[@Airsparkle6]

Plus she now has ptsd from water which is horrible

[@SteveFromYoutube]

I don't think anyone disagrees with you

[@ima2020presidentcandidate]

It’s been like 7 years and I still haven’t been able to get over Finnicks death. Still the hardest death to accept across all fantasy franchises

[@R-O-S-A.]

same

[@mae5545]

Yep

[@Rhaelle]

Finnicks death has the same symbolic meaning as Fred Wesely's death. The unfairness of life and war. The passage in MJ when he dies, and Katniss feels like she can see his life flash before his eyes, sailing on a boat, Beetees tridant, Mags smiling and laughing, Annie in her wedding dress, etc, it's so profoundly personal and it's almost like as a reader, you feel like you're invading someone's happiest personal memories. Katniss and Finnicks friendship was so beautifully crafted, especially in MJ when they comforted each other while Peeta and Annie were in the Capitol. I wish we could have seen more of Finnick and Annie in the books and the movies honestly. They're such a beautiful couple. I'll never get over his death either.

[@judebellinghamfan04]

Agree 😢

[@sydneyaparker]

Same.

[@twit9129]

I think people underestimate just how tragic Annie's ending was, she was left mentally deranged and a single mother with the responsibility of raising a kid while suffering through PTSD and insanity without any support system. Finnick and Mags were the only support she had, and Finnick was the only one who can calm her down when she gets an episode and they're both gone.

[@-alexandra-7135]

I just realised she lost both of them 😭 that’s literally so sad…

[@YuuKamijo]

I'd like to believe that Katniss' mom and Annie eventually became friends while in District 13. This friendship will then blossom into a kind of mother and daughter relationship and Katniss' mother looking and guiding Annie through motherhood. As even though she became broken after the death of Katniss'father and losing Prim, guiding Annie will be her chance to have a daughter and correcting her wrongs on Katniss and Prim.

[@princessjinni]

She had some years of happiness with them tho and she has her baby to give her hope and to love, Johanna has no one

[@Ry_your-fav-brunette]

@twit129 but Johanna almost never had family and she can’t bath

[@KR4KY]

I really feel like her baby grounded and helped her.

[@Jimmersaunt]

To quote Haymitch-“there are no winners-there are survivors “. The brilliance of Suzanne Collins writing is how she could make us feel such sympathy for so many characters.

[@poseidons_child.]

You know who had it bad? Prim. Prim was only seven (?) when she her dad died. She watched her sister starve and her mother go into shock. She got reaped for the hunger games and instead had her sister take her place. She had to spend the entire hunger games watching her sister nearly die on tv multiple times. When her sister was forced back into the arena again, Prim had to watch a Katniss blow up the arena. She had her home bombed. She watched her sister deal with Peeta. Hell, Prim was the one who talked to help Peeta. Prim was sent into battle a year to young and was blown up on the field. This girl had it tough.

[@LyraAurora]

@Zee Yup, Madge(sp?). She was also the one who originally gave the mockingjay pin to Katniss, iirc.

[@mathilderasmussen8647]

@@LyraAurora Nope, not Madge, she dies in the bombing of district 12. It was Delly Cartwright that talked to Peeta after the hijacking😊

[@KevinJohnson-vp7rf]

​@@mathilderasmussen8647 I the books it was delly, in the movies it was prim. Idk why they changed it.

[@KevinJohnson-vp7rf]

@Zee that makes sense

[@samanthaangelovich8507]

Plus she thought Katniss died bc of that broadcast that said her team died during their mission in Mockingjay.

[@norawirtz]

I truly think people underestimate the pain and tragedy of Johanna's life because of the way she reacts to it. She seems so strong because of her, what else have I got to lose attitude, but really her story is a really tragic one where the beginning, middle and end were just terrible.

[@chloesoph9906]

fr and it's so annoying to see people overlook her trauma

[@charity9660]

Most have only seen the films and i didn’t get the whole story in the films

[@no_peace]

She had to go through all that and keep living as an addict afterward. Other people had similar things happen and either they died or they had other traumatized people to be in community with

[@SabrinaRina]

Her and Finnick are my favs... so yeah, I question how I enjoy this series.

[@shehulkgolding2206]

I like to believe that eventually Johanna was able to work through her fear of water and find at least one person to connect with.

[@LBTS1389]

I honestly need some sort of follow up on her character

[@the-berries-and-cream-dude]

I think with how her character is, she would probably end up alone for many, many years. She’s the kind of person that loves deeply but doesn’t open up easily, I think Katniss was the first time in years she started having someone there for her, only for her to feel that she betrayed her. It would be very hard for to open up again.

[@Rhaelle]

I do too, it's too awful to think she really had no one for the rest of her life and just suffered with agonizing PTSD until she died, unable to even bath herself. I like to think maybe she found comfort in an animal, maybe a dog, or a cat. I don't think Katniss and Peeta would have left her without at least trying to make contact. I know there was a huge divide between them after Johanna voted yes for the Capitol Hunger Games, but I don't think they would have abandoned her completely knowing everything she's been through. Especially Peeta, given that they had a joining rooms in the Capitol. Although, now that I think about it maybe seeing Johanna would have sent Peeta into one of his flashbacks for that same reason, part of his torture was hearing Johanna tortured.

[@andreasmeelie1889]

Same here. I also want to believe that she was able to eventually learn why Katniss killed Coin instead of Snow and realize that she didn't betray her after all. :) :(

[@littlelove13]

I like to think she stayed with Annie, helping her raise baby Odair

[@dabee760]

You can't tell me that Peeta was the same Peeta after Snow was done with him and all the torture he endured back at Capitol probably had huge consequences on him mentally

[@Rhaelle]

He definitely changed a lot after he was tortured, and he was never going to return to normal. The progress he made throughout MJ was unbelievable, and the fact that he came back to himself even slightly shows just how strong of a person he really is.

[@Carolinagirl1028]

He definitely had after effects. In the epilogue Katniss says he still had hijacking spells that would come on him and he would have to cling to the back of a chair until they would finally pass.

[@susanrobertson984]

I have a personal storyline where he kills Katniss some day far into the future because of PTSD.

[@Rhaelle]

@@susanrobertson984 there are a few months before Peeta comes home to Victor's Village. Peeta uses that time to work with Dr. Aurelius, and i like to believe both Peeta and Katniss see Dr. Aurelius to deal with their PTSD. I personally don't think Peeta would ever kill Katniss, because there's nothing to suggest he goes full mutt again in the future. In the epilogue Katniss talks about his flashbacks, but she never mentions if he becomes violent again. Plus it's been 15 years since the end of the Mockingjay Rebellion when Katniss and Peeta have children. I don't think Katniss would have agreed to have children with Peeta if he was actively violent. That's just my personal opinion, doesn't mean yours is wrong :))

[@sheldonatherton2204]

Peeta did a terrible time but at least he is still happy because he has 2 beatiful children and is dating the girl of his dreams

[@danielasarmiento30]

I think an extra tragedy is that Peeta's whole family was killed in the district 12 bombing: both his parents and siblings. Outside of Katniss and Haymich, he had no one. I'd say maybe Haymich and Peeta are toe to toe, but they're both over Finnick for me; Haymich due to how long he suffered and Peeta over how brutally he did so

[@befrugalwithus]

Was going to say this also. Peeta is easy for either two or three.

[@Celeste_51]

Yes that’s so tragic ❤ and he was only 17 when they died

[@Aliteralmilf]

I feel like we didn’t touch enough on the abuse Peeta went through from his mom. She beat the shit out of him daily since he was very young. Most of these people had good families and sure it was horrible they were taken away, but Peeta never had a family

[@sigriddaaemland8486]

It was "only" his mother who was uncaring and abusive that we know of for certain. Not trying to justify abusive parents by any means, and I agree that that aspects of Peeta's suffering is overlooked in this video. But saying he didn't have a family at all is taking things a bit too far in my opinion. I believe it would be more accurate to say he grew up in a dysfunctional family. Both parents were stuck in an unhappy marriage out of economic necessities, trying to keep the bakery in business, not out of love. And the kids paid the price. Peeta´s father was a good and nice man from what I can recall in the books. Peeta has to have gotten his kindness from somewhere, both genetic and environmental, right? Peeta´s two brothers aren't given many characteristics, we simply know they exist, are older than Peeta, and that he was upset by their deaths in the bombings of District 12. If nothing else, he definetely grieved the loss of his father the years after the war.

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Sad that Finnick never got to meet his son in both the book and movies. 😢

[@michellemahar9030]

His death guts me every time. He was an amazing friend and he deserved to be with Annie and his son. Being a mom, it hurts me even worse now.

[@luciagianquitto4010]

​@@michellemahar9030apparently the writer, Suzanne Collins, said that After ten years She Is having regrets about killing Finnick because She never imagined how loved he would become

[@juliaelize3164]

wdym he literally moved to district 12 with annie and their baby so they could become neighbors with katniss and peeta and have a fun little family

[@luciagianquitto4010]

@@juliaelize3164 i don't know honestly. I only understood that our love for Finnick made her regret her decision to kill him

[@lucygarrett9785]

@@juliaelize3164 exactly, we should be allowed to live in denial

[@saranshpandey3056]

I feel every tribute from District 4 had a tragic past connected to them. Annie Cresta went mad after seeing beheading survived because of her swimming skills that district 4 was good at due to water filling in the arena. Her mother was just free meat and she had no chance. Finnick was the youngest to win at 14 but was pushed into sex slavery but killed by lizard mutation in 2nd Rebellion

[@eilishcorkery2364]

Finnick was beheaded by the lizard mutts, that's why Katniss used the Holo to blow up the sewers, so that Annie didn't have nightmares about Finnick being beheaded

[@midarismidwife207]

@@eilishcorkery2364 Annie watched someone get beheaded in the arena during her games.

[@Monicalia]

@@eilishcorkery2364 no, in the book it's explained Anne went insane when she'd witnessed a tribute getting beheaded during the games.

[@shilo2972]

Sad thing is people only focus on the tragedies of finnick or annie. Mags as well had troubling background before her death. She was the first victor during the 11th hunger games. She was the first victor that was made to go on the victory tour which kept her away from her family and home. She was made to live in the victors village after she won and when the tour ended. After all that when she got older she did at least have some happiness and married but when the 75th hunger games came around she knew she needed to save annie and despite being married or possibly having children/grandchildren (this is left unclear in the movie/books) she volunteers herself for the games knowing at 80 years old she has the least amount of chance at surviving. The poor woman couldn't even really speak. She is described as having a medical condition that makes it difficult to her (katniss believes it was some kind of stroke). So mags is left to having to speech with hand gestures after that happened. I dont believe she had the most tragic story but she definitely shouldnt be left out of the conversations when speaking about people involved in the games. Also the 11th hunger games which Mags was the winner of is just one year after the 10th hunger games where snow apparently started to get into things. (The 10th hunger games was wiped from achieves so imagine how crazy it couldve been going into the 11th. Especially if someone stepped out or line etc.)

[@karlsmith2570]

Given everything that Johanna went through, the rankinh of how tragic her story was is definately well deserved

[@camilaself1558]

Peeta is so much more tragic than I thought, wow. I do have to agree that Johanna is the most tragic though, as she goes through so many trials in her life to never really see a brighter side or a happy moment. It is also especially tragic to see the toll it has taken on her mental health and her personality, similar to how we see with Haymitch but a lot more dramatic I think. Haymitch turns to alcoholism, but through that he finds some sort of comfort and identity. I don’t feel like Johanna ever really gets that comfort, even when on the morphling, and she never is able to find a real sense of identity either as it has been stripped from her over and over again… The Hunger Games is literally peak literature and no one can tell me different lmao

[@SteveFromYoutube]

he didn't even mention that Peeta lost his entire family in the district 12 bombing

[@Rhaelle]

Genuinely one of the best book series ever written. I'm going to be rereading these books for the rest of my life. Absolutely peak literature

[@peterfedorchuk]

@@SteveFromKZbin right? like he also was the last of his entire bloodline also the fact that sure he ended up with Katniss in the end, but he didn’t actually fully recover his memories with her. had some strong ones maybe, but not tangibly remember the 3rd quarter quell he just had the memories of what he got from watching it, meaning the one time Katniss did have real love for him in the games, those are the ones he had to just see to believe rather than have that real memory, meaning he restarted his life with her more from regrowing a love for who she is rather than who he was. I think that’s hard.

[@peterfedorchuk]

and just to add on, his whole “real or not real” game he would play trying to figure out what was real in life. he always has to second guess what was a memory or what was implanted in his brain to think, so living in constant paranoia should put him higher

[@zoenightshade3053]

In some ways, though, I might say Katniss and Prim's mother. She watched her best friend die in the second quarter quell. She got married to the man she loved and had two beautiful daughters, just to have her husband blown up in the mines. She went into extreme depression while Katniss and Prim struggled around her. She picked up again once Katniss learned to hunt, and was doing alright with her apothecary business before Prim was reaped and Katniss took her place. She had to watch her daughter nearly die dozens of times on live television, and deal with her coming home supposedly in love with Peeta. Then the whole thing repeated all over again with the third quarter quell, where she also had to deal with Katniss supposedly going to certain death while pregnant. Then her home got blown up, and she had to evacuate to District 13 with what was left of the District 12 population. She watched Katniss struggle with PTSD and saw her in and out of the hospital countless times. Then Katniss went to the Capitol, and was declared dead. Prim got permission to go to the capitol as well, before she was murdered indirectly by Gale. Not much happened to her personally, but she had to watch helplessly as her husband and daughter were killed while her other daughter suffered through extremely traumatic situations over and over again.

[@l.c.7955]

The mom sucks. Horrible mother. Katniss was the real mom 😅

[@nini2488]

You do realize that the pregnancy thing wasn't real right? Her mother knew the pregnancy was a lie

[@imi3094]

@@nini2488 I meannn unless Katniss told her it was a lie in mockingjay or something (Im reading catching fire rn) She coudlve believed that maybe it was real and Katniss just didn't have a chance to tell her

[@mariegetz2385]

I prefer Gale and I do not think it should be said even that Prim was indirectly murdered by him. He may have invented the bomb that killed her but, judging on evidence from the books, I do not think that he would ever have done that and had no control over Coins decision

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

All Haymitch did was use his brain and his surroundings to win the Hunger Games. And how did Snow repay him for it?

[@teamsteed1]

Snow killed his family and his girlfriend. :'(

[@Rhaelle]

I think that now after having read The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes, I think Snow wanted to punish District 12 and it's Victor's as much as possible. Especially people from the Seam. It wasn't even just that Haymitch outsmarted the gamemakers, Snow just wanted him to suffer.

[@diabolicallink]

That’s snow for you. Hell, if you’ve read Of Songbirds and Snakes you see how truly evil and messed up he is

[@diabolicallink]

@@Rhaelle that’s honestly a good point that I hadn’t considered.

[@Rhaelle]

@@diabolicallink Thank you :) I hadn't either until recently. It makes a lot of sense, since Lucy Grey was from the Seam. He probably wanted to punish all of District 12 for what happened between them, which is why he starved them the worst, forcing younger children to get tessere and chosen at the Reaping each year. What Snow has never been able to catch onto is that it's the people who suffer the most (the people from the Seam) that have the strongest will to live and the most refined survival skills. This is shown by how little survival skills the Career tributes have in the games. They have never had to starve like the people from District 12. That's why Lucy, Haymitch, and Katniss were able to survive the games. Pure survival instincts. The more you beat people down, the easier they are to control, at least that's what Snow believes. The people of the Capitol gave their political power over to Snow in exchange for the ultimate entertainment, the games. Panem et Circenses, Bread and circus; a diet of entertainment or political policies on which the masses are fed to keep them happy and docile. This provides Snow with the ultimate death grip on the nation because at any moment, the food and entertainment can stop flowing and he would let his people starve if it meant holding onto power. Lucy Grey, Haymitch and Katniss all broke the illusion Snow had tried to create of this dystopian world, proving how fragile the system is. "It must be fragile system if it can be brought down by just a few berries." Three Victor's in the last 75 years all from the Seam, outsmarted the gamemakers and made the Capitol look bad, creating "chinks" in the armor.

[@remytt4]

5: Annie Alive but PTSD and Finnick died. 4: Peeta Always feeling neglected, playing games for years, lost his leg, brainwashed but survived and ended up with Katniss. 3: Haymitch PTSD, depression, alcoholic but managed to stay alive and have a bit of redemption and happyness after a long life of struggles. 2: Finnick Forced into prostitution and died at the Rebellion War. Sad ending! 1: Johanna Ended up totally alone, terrible PTSD, her heart full of hatred and feeling betrayed by everyone.

[@benluvsmitski]

johanna also got addiction from morphlings after she got tortured

[@hehhehhehheh-wn7zz]

I like to think maybe Johanna recovered over time. She was young when the series ended and in the epilogue Panem was no longer corrupt so maybe..?

[@starazaleah7483]

@@hehhehhehheh-wn7zz I honestly don’t think so. These books are tragic and there aren’t a lot of happy endings. I think Susanne writing that she voted yes during the last movie, solidified where she would end up afterwards. Alone and still bitter.

[@hehhehhehheh-wn7zz]

@@starazaleah7483 I mean, at least she's still badass..?

[@117JasR]

I think Annie should move up the list because her and finnick had finally gotten married and she was pregnant and finnick just died leaving her alone with a child. that’s very sad

[@tvfantatic3957]

I think something else you should have considered with Peeta, was his life before the games. Every single person on that list, besides Peeta, had loved ones. Even Haymitch and Joanna, who lost their loved ones, at least HAD loved ones growing up. Peeta did not. He was abused his ENTIRE life. By his mom and the capital. But never lost that kindness that made Katniss fell in love with him, unlike Joanna and Haymitch, who became bitter.

[@BSfanwithaskillissue]

Ye and he had to watch Katniss take prim’s place to protect her while his siblings did not.I definitely would not have looked at my siblings the same,tho not really their fault.

[@kejingjing1870]

When I read the books I did feel like Katniss loved Peeta before she went into the arena the 2nd time. She was very conflicted between Gale and Peeta. And I think she didn't even understand her own feelings.

[@cassieopea]

Agreed, I'm not sure when Katniss fell in LOVE with Peeta, but she definitely loved him after the first games. i think she fell in love with Peeta during the victory tour maybe? Idk. I don't think Katniss ever loved Gale, she just thought she did, since she was expected too. When she was in district 13 she was a scared, tired, angsty teen suffering from extreme ptsd and just needed human closeness

[@ElectricError]

I always read Katniss as far more concerned with survival than interested in love. She didn't want to fall in love in the kind of world they grew up in. Gale was a close friend that she could no longer relate to after the games, so they grew apart. Gale was never a serious love interest. And Peeta was probably not someone she would have fallen in love with if it weren't for the mutual trauma. Tbh I see their entire love arc as extremely tragic.

[@elizabetharnold1714]

They were young kids with so many large emotions. It is understandable she was confused and conflicted. I ever thought she was purposely messing with peta outside of what the were forced to.

[@girl2ninja]

​@elizabetharnold1714 I totally agree. Katniss was 16. At 16, does anyone truly grasp what true romantic love is? Also being pushed into a narrative about loving someone and struggling with life/death/politics. At 16. It's kind of hard to focus on romance when all you're trying to to do is survive. Again at 16

[@ludmilamaiolini6811]

I never really bought her having romantic feelings for Gale. But I think she entertained the idea because she didn’t get a chance to explore that freely, because of the Capital, and as a way to cling to her relationship with Gale. I think that maybe if Gale didn’t have feelings and didn’t act hurt over the Peeta act, she wouldn’t have worried too much about it either

[@terjereiersdal2669]

When you realize that Annie had to deal with Finnicks death more than once as she thought he died when the peacekeepers bombed that building. And than she found out that he was still alive which gave her hope. And than she had to deal with it all over again. Off!!😰

[@JustJamieLeigh]

I agree that Johanna has the most tragic life 100%. I also feel that Katniss herself deserves to be on the list too, though she’d end up in last place. She watched her best friend become a product of something she hated, leading to her witnessing the death of her sister, and was consistently used as a form of propaganda for both sides. She had it better than a lot of them, but not by so much. (Not forgetting she was a child of the Seam and lost her father, and arguably her mother, at a very young age)

[@lisa5763]

I think Annie had the hardest life, she saw her partner get decapitated in the games, went insane, then had to see the only person that understood her and cared for her have to go back into the games against other victors who had just as big as a chance to win, then had a chance at happiness when she got married and got pregnant but then her husband died, the only person that mattered to her and only one that cared. She was alone with a baby and didn’t know how to cope.

[@ThePinkCraftyUnicorn]

Honestly. I mean, if we are honest, until 13, Annie and Finnic had NO happy years together.

[@marvel096]

Yeah and she also lost mags who was like a mother figure to her 😔and they don’t mention her family in the books so I’m assuming she never had one or snow killed them as well

[@ThePinkCraftyUnicorn]

@@marvel096 💯 totally. I really hope Suzan Collins writes more about their story.

[@pepehdezhdez2473]

And the moments she thought she could have a happy life with Finnick she lost him

[@jw9565]

I personally think that Peeta is No. 2. Yes, he gets a happy ending, and he's suffering isn't as long as some of the others, but even at the end of the series he still gets flashes where he needs to hold onto a chair so he wouldn't kill the woman he loves. Plus, his tournament in the Capital was more concentrated than for anyone else, especially once they started the hijacking process on him. They managed to squeeze years of torment into just a couple of months.

[@caitlynmarie2677]

I did not experience the torture Johanna endured, however I endured and survived my own trauma that has left me with a similar difficulty taking showers and I appreciate how he keeps mentioning it repeatedly. It’s a horrible thing to live with, a terrible fear to have constantly hanging over me (and embarrassment, of course). I probably sympathize the most with Johanna and I wish the movies had done a better job of telling her story.

[@iammar1159]

I hope you’re doing much better now and I hope you continue to heal ❤️

[@sytmor]

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[@kristen7948]

Wet wipes are awesome and such a viable option. Take care of yourself!

[@kathrynmulvihill4923]

It's Annie. She went through The Hunger Games which gave her tons of phiscal stress, then, when she won and when came back home she was never in the right mind and the only person who could get her through it, Finnick, she had to watch him being sold. She was chosen for the 75th hunger games, Mags vollentered for her, then she watched Mags give up her life for Finnick and the others which gave her a lot of guilt. When Katniss broke the arena she was taken by peacekepers and tranported to the Capital where she was torchered with Peeta and Joanna. When she was rescued by 13 yes she married Finnick, and then had what, like a week with him before he was sent out on a misson and died. She had to raise her son all alone. Her torcher never ended, she had to be reminded every day that the love of her life passed. She is the most tragic hunger games charecter.

[@malloryjones1953]

Don’t forget Peeta also lost his entire family when District 12 was destroyed by the Capitol.

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Haymitch and Joana lost their families after winning the Hunger Games they competed in.

[@davidfairweather3301]

I always find the relationship between Katniss and Haymitch so interesting. They both were quite combative to each other, and Peeta is the one to point out that this is because how alike they are. Peeta is easy to mentor, but Katniss is very much like Haymitch, with regards to his reluctance to accept help; and wanting to rely on their own instincts. Also Katniss hates the idea of having to perform for the capitol like she’s at a dog show; however Peeta sees the value in impressing the capitol citizens. It’s so great seeing the relationship build between Katniss and Haymitch. I think Haymitch does view Peeta and Katniss as his surrogate children. Katniss does not see Haymitch as a father figure but she definitely appreciates everything he’s done for them; and values him as a friend.

[@maketycry3952]

Johanna was definitely the most tragic, though I do think that her ending could’ve been better if she just tried to understand why Katniss broke her promise, and try to appreciate that Snow was still killed shortly after. That friendship didn’t have to end.

[@luciagianquitto4010]

Johanna wanted AN EYE FOR AN EYE kind of Revenge

[@tammygant4216]

Was that a movie ending? I don't remember from the books that they ever spoke after the meeting about a final hunger games.

[@samanthaangelovich8507]

@@tammygant4216 I've been wondering the same thing. I think that's an assumption Morgan makes that everyone is accepting & rolling with it. I don't think we know how she responded. But I don't think it's super off base to guess she felt betrayed even if it only a guess.

[@dammitmandy1166]

I haven’t watched this yet but I’m gonna have to say Haymitch after hearing the list. He went into the quell with twice as many tributes and outlasted them all, almost dying himself. But his hands weren’t clean. At least Annie won by swimming and all that happened to her, was actually to others around her. She didn’t have to take a life. He had two weeks of peace before everyone he loved was killed. And then his whole life was spent going back to that place. Year after year. He may of had a somewhat happy ending but it took a couple of decades to get it. While tragedy struck the others hard, they were young with many years to live out in peace. Except Joanna… I rank her up there almost with Haymitch. Considering everything that happened to her and her loved ones but she too had the rest of her life in front of her to find peace (I hope she did).

[@youwereprettylasttimeisawy1227]

He she didn’t, haymitch at least had people he was close with, Joanna had literally nobody except for Katniss but she felt betrayed by Katniss because she broke the promise that he made to kill snow, the one person Joanna hated the most because he was the one who caused all of her pain and suffering and never got the chance to clear up with Katniss after that,she couldn’t even clean herself due to her ptsd while also being addicted to pain meds with having no help, truly one of the most depressing stories I’ve ever heard about a fictional character

[@Destiny-ze2gz]

@@youwereprettylasttimeisawy1227 she didn’t break her promise , the people still killed snow , when she killed the lady instead , it was the right thing to do

[@connieho7272]

@@Destiny-ze2gz Not saying it wasn't. But Katniss made a promise that SHE would finish him off, that at least if she couldn't be the one to do it personally at least snow would see the fire, the anger, the hatred in Katniss eyes from Johanna. At least Johanna could feel like she was also the one killing him by Katniss.

[@zvezdoblyat]

​@You were pretty last time I saw you haymitch has gone through the games, one of the worst versions because the quarter quell is so much more than a regular hunger games. More tributes, bigger arena, higher chances of getting killed. He watches everyone die in the quell, okay. He finishes last and gets out, only to be bombarded with "congratulations!" and ptsd from a bunch of silly capitol idiots who don't know better. Then he develops serious alcoholism and tries to cope by making friends with the other victors. Over the years he has to watch children as young as 12 get killed from his district every year. Finally, he mentors katniss and peeta, etc, etc, and has to go through another quarter quell where the VICTORS are reaped this time, and faced with the bullshit of that decision. The kids he thought were safe? Going back in. The friends he's made over the years? Going back in. And most of them didn't come back out. Imagine that. Just years and years of torture Addiction? Check. Depression? Check. A line Johanna says is "they can't hurt me. Everyone I love is already dead." Haymitch had people. And literally watched them all get murdered on screen. I think that does a number on your mental health. And I think he has a much deeper hatred for Snow than Johanna could possibly imagine

[@xiao-yuhobbs4166]

​@@zvezdoblyat they all went through games and had people they were close to. Johanna lost mags and finnick too. Haymitch managed to move past some of his previous trauma, Johanna did not....plus she also had to mentor each year as the o ly female Victor from seven.

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Johanna went through the worse when Katniss broke her promise to her about killing Snow.

[@mandymagnolia1966]

I think the last little bit snapped after that. I don’t think she would have trusted anyone else after that. I don’t blame Katniss for killing Coin, but I don’t blame Johanna for hating her for not killing Snow either

[@diabolicallink]

I didn’t see katniss as not killing snow as too horrible of a thing to be honest. There’s no way she didn’t know he was gonna be killed one way or another, it just wasn’t her who did it.

[@mandymagnolia1966]

@@diabolicallink Oh yeah. Katniss knew Snow was either gonna die from his own doing, or someone else would kill him. But she promised Johanna she would kill him and Katniss was probably one of the last living people Johanna trusted

[@YouthFreedomFighters]

Considering that Snow got trampled to death soon afterward, I don't think Johanna really cared that Katniss killed Coin instead of Snow.

[@kaitlyn3066]

Snow was killed regardless. Johanna wouldn't care if Katniss did it or not.

[@zadokhoffman258]

I also noticed Peta also lost his family as well

[@marthasedits]

I personally think Peeta had the most tragic story. He was forced into the games, heartbroken by Katniss, his family was blown to bits, he was brutally tortured and brainwashed and probably has severe PTSD. However, he does have a happy ending.

[@patriciaclark409]

I am unable to choose who had it worse. All of them suffered their own tragedy and it would be cruel to say one persons sufferring is not as bad as anothers. These books had me in tears many times, something that is hard to do normally.The worst part for me is after Prim died and Katniss returned home. Hearing the cat was just to much for her.

[@natalie_rose2861]

I've noticed I never see anyone mention that the most tragic thing about Peetas story is how different he is after the torture. He never really returns. He basically died in the capital & someone else returned. Even after the therapy. He still wasn't the same.

[@leighmartin9187]

Katniss getting in bed with Peeta was difficult to a degree, but it was more for comfort than anything. Both of them suffered nightmares and ptsd. Having someone hold them as they slept was a sense of security. It is incredibly sweet of Peeta to do that. Peeta and Katniss still cared deeply for one another. They were still very close friends. There is a bond that people have when they face something like the hunger games.

[@the-berries-and-cream-dude]

I think Finnick is a fan favorite which is why his death hurts so many (me included) but Johanna really had it worst. After winning she ended up being alone and after the rebellion, she was still alone and now with PTSD.

[@kandykane3265]

I think I would flip Finnick and Haymitch. Only because I can't imagine sending 23 years worth of teenagers to their death. It also appears Haymitch was alone with that pain & guilt till the 74th games when he met Katniss & Peeta. Finnick had 10 years of mentoring, 6 of which would have been spent being gifted out. (which would seem like a lifetime) but at least he had family and Annie, so he didn't have to be completely alone with his pain & guilt. ITA about Johanna though. I think Jena Malone's portrayal makes us forget how truly tragic Johanna is as a character. I'd love to see a sequel book about her and maybe see her get towards some happy ending. Otherwise, you're correct, we're just left to imagine her alone in district 7 with only her anger and PTSD to comfort her.

[@Gewoon_Wenn]

I agree on the list, I only think that Finnick had also ptsd from the time he was used by the Capitol. He had to do things against his wil and to do that he had to close down his emotions and forget who he was and what he wanted. He is used as a thing / toy at that moment and must had got the feeling he was worthless. He also had to pretent he liked what all that women did to him.. And he had to deal with everthing that was said about him what wasn't true..

[@Karmillina]

Oh Johanna is definitely the most tragic. Even after everything, she ended up with no one: no family, no real sign of friends, no children or spouse, no purpose or a job that could provide with such a purpose or even hopes for a brighter future... she started with nothing and ended with nothing. At least Haymitch had his geese and his friends, as good as children or even just a niece and a nephew (and Effie if we go by the movie of course), Katniss and Peeta got each other and their babies, Finnick's painful death had a purpose so he became a hero and Annie had a baby to adore and care for after being one of the few characters with perfectly clean hands who also did not die. Johanna gained nothing from all of this. If only we would have known she found a purpose in her job, or had been able to take in and teach children who loved her, or if she had found a new life in district 12 or any other place where she could have a fresh start, any kind of payoff or reward for herself, she wouldn't be nearly as tragic. Sadly, in real life this happens more often than not. Good deeds don't always get a reward. It goes with the theme that wars are not payless endeavors.

[@coachgoltzbizpro23]

When I voted in the poll, I voted Finnick due to not only being prostituted, but also the note you mentioned in your character video of him about how he never saw himself as a good person. He probably wasn't (Not many people in Hunger Games can be seen as saints) but by loving Annie despite her trauma from the games, he showed some positive traits. That being said, I agree with why your choice for most tragic story belongs to Johanna. I've seen what happens when people go through their lives feeling neglected by world, bitter, and all alone, and that's worse than any hell...

[@mikuhatzune012]

Glad to see more hunger games content from your channel! You are one of the only youtubers that gives good analysis on this series and clearly love them a lot

[@rodan9773]

Love The Hunger Games content keep it up dude respect. To me it was Haimish he survived by using his intelligence but they murdered his familiy just because Snows Pride was hurt so every time he thinks of something smart he is probably reminded of that and he had to train the next "Offerings" just to watch them die again and again.

[@amandacarricato3487]

What about Katniss’s mom? She lost her husband in a tragic accident, lost her daughter in a tragic explosion, and hated by her only surviving family member because of her emotions.

[@paulad8726]

I agree with the ranking! I will say though, I would add to Peeta's tragedy: Losing his whole family in the bombing of twelve. I still do think Haymitch had to endure tragedy for longer, but that element makes it that much harder to compare the two!

[@keira_likes_pie6438]

Love the Hunger Games! And your videos, so it's a perfect mix. Thanks for your hard work!

[@dannylagangonzalez6832]

I definitely agree with Johanna being the most tragic. She is the only way to possibly continue the Hunger Games story post Mockingjay, where there could be a plot of her going after Katniss to avenge her betrayal.

[@mistyb1183]

3:01 I always wish that she had wrote in the epilogue that he became a grandfather to their children it’s never said, but it seems that in the book don’t think he really interacted with them too much he still kept himself raising wild geese, maybe even being that last part in the book playing with the girl

[@babypurpleshulker-sj2sv]

I recently read the hunger games and love it so I’m really glad your making more videos on it. I also love your Harry Potter videos as it’s one of my favourite series. :)

[@papahamdrew9962]

Katniss herself is quite tragic as well, but I agree with your top 5 and their placements

[@andreasmeelie1889]

I wonder where Morgan heard about Johanna's ending. Sheesh! I always loved her friendship with Katniss so to find out that she was betrayed by Katniss when she actually killed Coin instead of Snow and had to go back home being all alone, betrayed, and insane just really breaks my heart. :( I wish she knew that Katniss in a way did kill Snow because Snow laughed himself to death, lol, but mainly I wish that she had a much happier ending. :(

[@Victori.A1]

Same. I wish they at least gave her a friend!

[@19kambo]

Keep the new hunger games vids coming 🔥I recently watched all of them on Netflix and have watched all your older videos on the Hunger Games

[@KyloHen4162]

I find it very interesting how only one person died out of the five most tragic.

[@arianaleal3025]

I love your Harry Potter and Hunger Games break down videos and was wondering if you would ever do a Divergent one or Maze Runner? I’ve never read either of the books and the movies never interested me but the way you film these videos I would LOVE your take on either.

[@827shunbun]

Your break down and conclusions are absolutely correct. ❤ Fantastic job!

[@snxwrose-fp8gk]

5. Annie. She suffered extreme mental illness after the games but still ended up with a son and had Finnick when he was alive. 4. Finnick. He suffered forced prostitution and threat on his family and faced an extremely painful and agonising death, but still while he was alive he had years with the love of his life. 3. Haymitch. He faced dreadful alcoholism and PTSD after the games and watched all the tributes that he trained in the arena die. Lost his whole family but ended healthily and most likely happily. 2. Johanna. She faced traumatic torturing from the capitol and the fear of water. She ended her life alone but she was such a strong woman and still survived everything. 1. Peeta. He faced horrendous and regular beating from his mother throughout his childhood. Was neglected for years, was used by Katniss and the capitol and then captured and tortured terribly by the capitol. His whole family was killed and he faced 2 hunger games. He went on missions that made His life a living hell and lost a leg. Even though he got the happy ending that he deserved, nothing makes up for his tragic life - he will never be the same again.

[@ricardomapps577]

Your videos are really good and you got me to read all of the Percy Jackson's book 🔥🔥🔥

[@shadowviper619]

I love the content and your an awesome content creator and very interesting perspectives keep up the great work

[@3chaoticcatsinatrenchcoat561]

2:50 don’t forget about Haymitch’s geese! He probably missed taking care of something that hates him lol

[@ankan_4321]

I have watched the movies and read the books multiple times without the slightest emotion. But this got to me, i could hardly hold back tears after like five minutes

[@carlaworth9983]

When Morgan uploads, it always makes my day ❤❤❤

[@Jameson709]

Great video!

[@ioankou]

I hadn't really thought of who's the most tragic character in the hunger games before, but I believe that I agree with your ranking. They all had extremely tragic stories and it's really really hard to tell who's had it worse. But I have to agree with Johanna, I can't even imagine what her life turned out like after the games, no loved ones, no friends, an addiction, severe ptsd. Finnick was her closest friend after Snow killed her loved ones and he got killed. Katniss was the only other person she could consider her friend and that was ruined as well

[@Noahbusbyj]

Love the hunger games videos!!!

[@ashleyhammond4711]

I would possibly switch Haymitch & Finnick only because Finnick's ending and not meeting his son was tragic, but it was on his own accord. He was happy to die for Katiness and a better future whereas Haymitch's desperation for his tributes time and time again, there was little he could do but watch. That's just as psychological.

[@lacrimosaknight]

I just saw your video on Haymich (however you spell it). I had great timing.

[@MagickwithSoulBride]

I know that they are a lot of work for you, but it would be awesome if you made videos about all the differences between the hunger games books and movies like you did with Harry Potter. I love those videos and I think that these would be really popular as well. Love your channel!

[@lavender6428]

Coriolanus Snow also had a tragic life. Although he wasn’t tortured, he was manipulated and had to go through a lot of things in his life. He had to witness a terrible war with his family, who died shortly after as well as his unborn sibling, making him only have his cousin Tigris and his grandmother left. He had to go through starvation and people dying as well as cannibalism and desperation. He had to go to school with Dr Gaul and watch as she tortured his friends, avoxes, and people he didn’t know as a lesson to others who might try to cross her. He had to observe his love, Lucy Gray go through the arena with him being the only person keeping her alive. He had to watch Clemensia being bitten by the snakes and going through the terrifying aftermath of it, and having to lie to everyone about her condition. Then he was brought to the districts thinking it was for the rest of his life instead of a few months and going back to the capitol. Then he mentally tore himself apart thinking about Lucy Gray and going as far as trying to kill her because of his insanity. Later, he broke off his connections to his loved ones and family members by firing his cousin and marrying someone that he despised. Then he had to see Katniss go into the arena having similar qualities as Lucy Gray and singing her songs, which must have either made him incredibly angry, sad, or mentally unwell. He had to see her win and against the Capitol’s will as well as Peeta. He also had to kill many people to gain power throughout his years of participating in the government. On top of that he had to watch as his country fell apart and be publicly killed even though Katniss chose him over Coin. He lived a pretty terrible life.

[@human_best_friend]

Yeah, but for most part, he was the one responsible for it. Yes, the beginning of his life was tragic, but he was the one who kept the contact with Gaul while being in District 12, he could've just be with Lucy Gray. You talk as if it bothered him to kill many people to gain power. After getting back from 12, he didn't feel any bit of remorse. Yeah, his life was definitely not easy, but he made hell out of other people's lives.

[@DaiizR]

Johanna’s ending is so tragic 😭 I had no idea that was her ending.

[@sotakovatereza352]

1 Johanna 2 Peeta 3 Haymich 4 Finnick 5 Annie But it was a HARD decision.

[@duncany4life_]

Yes i agree with this

[@TheRobiLive]

You didn’t mentioned that peeta lost his whole family through the bombing of district 12.

[@goldenshamrocks5]

I agree with your ranking! For another video idea, have you ever heard of the tales of the hunger games? It is created by another KZbinr, who created videos for every single hunger games as well imagined more hunger games after the 75th games. I think he has over 100 hunger games created, and it really expands the universe!

[@davidgrijalva6010]

I honestly think Cato should’ve been on the list I mean he was so close to winning, he lost his district partner, and in the movie he realized he was just as expendable as the other tributes even though he did everything right by the capitals standards, not to mention his death in the books

[@srayj]

This is a very interesting video. I think tragedy is such a difficult thing to quantify, but Johanna probably was at the top for going through everything she did and never really having any semblance of happiness at any time, whereas all of the others did have it at some point, fleeting as it may have been.

[@sjn7688]

One thing that was never explained was why Johanna refused Snow when she knew her loved ones would pay the price? Kinda wish the author wrote for Johanna to explain why she did that

[@virginiaarthur5]

I know as a woman I would have done it fuck it I’ll fuck some men to save my family no matter how ugly

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Hunger Games: Catching Fire was my favorite movie out of the 4.

[@Jaddas]

I have not watched all the movies, so i didnt know the characters' storys... Thanks for ruining my day. Very well made video.

[@pckrichards7980]

Yeah. I agree with this. I initially was hesitant based on the premise, but wow. Some good points were made and it’s always good to learn new things, even if sad AF

[@hasandilber9451]

every hunger games tribute has a tragic story i don't think we could say who has more of a tragic story, each of them they have all suffered for it

[@ethanvince8865]

Yessssss bring on the hunger games content

[@smileyforus]

I agree with your ranking. Everything you said about each one, their years of happiness (if the had some), the torture they were put through, and the aftermath.. I end up coming with the same conclusion!

[@flowerdancer]

I completely agree with your ranking. It makes sense after pointing out everything that each character went through. I love Johanna and i felt so bad for her after reading the books.

[@seriousko9324]

Also, with Finnick, he was NEVER listened to or thanked for everything he did for Katniss or the rebellion. He just sacrificed himself over and over and got nothing in return

[@Sp3c9000]

I would have voted Joanna in the poll (had I seen it) and I voted her before the video started. She was one of my "favorite" tragic characters from the books and the actress did an excellent job of bringing her character to life on the big screen. After everything she went through I had hoped for at least a not-so-tragic ending for her but unfortunately that didn't happen. Definitely agree with the ranking and the reasons for each of them, you were very thorough and I don't blame you for continuing to bring up the fact that Joanna couldn't even bathe herself, that's not a mindset I would wish even on my worst enemies. Great video, Morgan, stay awesome!

[@FlyingWolve]

Honestly Katniss was also one of the most tragic characters🥲had a horrible childhood in poverty, her father dying, her mother depressed, she had to take so much responsibility at a young age. Than she tried everything to lower the chance of prim being choosen & it still happened. Than all the stuff in the arena, her entire district burned, her sister after everythingdying by the one friend she trusted back home, ptsd from the games - she was in SO many & carried all the revolution & "living a symbol" on her shoulders. So much guilt for all the people that died in her name, the district, the bombs...Really hard life but at least she got a good ending🥲 She definetly had ptsd tho too

[@sydneyjohnson2026]

can you please do an in-depth video on each hunger games movies like you did in your harry potter series?

[@The___Dark___Knight92]

Where Haymitch and Peeta are ranked can be debated. However, I thought this was a fair ranking of tragic endings. Johanna's tragic ending was worse than death, in my opinion.

[@adriannagould363]

Would love your take on the Divergent Movies. You are astounding at what you do!!!!

[@malachifranco7594]

Love the video❤

[@alex.92375]

Here’s my ranking 5. Peeta: he got a happy ending 4. Annie: she still has a son which makes it a semi happy ending 3. Haymitch: he had to watch Katniss and peeta be together and he lost his closest loved ones 2. Johanna: she doesn’t have any loved ones and she has terrible ptsd and got tortured 1. Finnick: he had to watch mags die and he had just gotten married to Annie when he was killed by mutts

[@cheyennewiley2375]

In the books they say "...because of his youth, they couldn't touch him for a year or two..." when introducing finnicks character. So, unfortunately, finnick was only 15 or 16 when snow started to traffic him

[@shaemaali2458]

finnick’s death was so unfair. he did so much to keep everyone safe down there only to get left behind. it feels like no one even tried to help him up. it was frustrating watching katnis just stare at him. idk, it mightve been the right thing to do but it was still so frustrating.

[@glampirexo]

I just had this convo w my partner the other day! We said the same about Joanna, she had the most "glory" in her games but the absolute worst after her game. She deserved better!

[@R-O-S-A.]

In my opinion,i think the most tragic character would be the first ever person who played in the hunger games they had no mentor they had no one to go to for help so lets say there more than died for the time being but for a character shown in the movies/books its definitely Johanna she just cant go in water has no loved ones left its tragic .

[@CP-yd7lp]

Hey, buddy. I love your content! I wanted to make a request. I was hoping you could do a video just focusing on Ron and Hermione's relationship- in the books (and maybe also in the movies)- the development, all the moments throughout, and just do an analysis of it. I'm a hardcore Ron and Hermione shipper and I love your style. I would really love to see a video with visuals talking about the development of their relationship, all the sweet moments along the way, and opinions. Please consider doing that. Thanks. 🙂

[@victoriacuznercuzner8916]

I almost cried for Johanna when I heard this. If I was in the Hunger Games, I would make it my first job to befriend her and try to help her as much as I can. The others are still very tragic though, I read the books before before I watched the movies and I started crying at Finnick’s death in the books. When I watched Mockingjay, the whole time I was dreading Finnick’s death, it was worse than I thought.😭 Poor Johanna though.😭😢😭😢😭😢

[@mononokehte]

great question to explore

[@fumkioyuki8457]

saw a twitter thread he made and i want to see expcted this vidoe so nice. i agreee.

[@kaiumeda6341]

Do a Percy Jackson character tier list And a video about what every PJO character’s bogart would be

[@juliaolson1427]

Could you do a video on the first and last lines of hunger games characters? The best lines of hunger games characters. I have asked before but no hard asking twice.