Who is the New LUMIX S9 actually for?

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[@Ansonandco]

what do you all think of the Lumix S9?

After I buy the s5 ii this got in the list

[@Ansonandco]

Nice!

[@replaygoplay7919]

sigma fp/l better

[@Ansonandco]

@@replaygoplay7919 I think it’s a good alternative for those that don’t want to shoot cine dng, but I do prefer it

[@liamburke1436]

Would buy if there was an EVF. And maybe a mechanical shutter. Or more small lenses…

[@Joinen]

I think the lack of EVF and mechanical shutter are the obvious drawbacks, though I do think that the x100VI social media crowd might not be too bothered. The film sim feature is a massive part of what makes Fujifilm cameras so popular right now and I think Lumix's LUT feature is objectively better. I wouldn't be surprised if this thing takes off on social media. Personally, I possibly could have been convinced on it despite the EVF/mech shutter situation, but the fact that it has such strict recording limits EVEN at FHD is the nail in the coffin. Not a serious tool for photography, not a serious tool for video 🤷🏻‍♂

[@Ansonandco]

Yeah I would say if it’s a hobby camera or even an entry level cam it is great. But I too would not take it to a production, unless I want BTS

[@CalebHoover]

wow i don't remember doing that jumpy thing in the phone booth. weird. such a great video dude! crushed it! loved the shots!

[@Ansonandco]

Thanks dude! I’m running to check your video out now!

[@TacticalCactusMedia]

Great stuff as always Anson. Looks like you had a pretty incredible experience, and it’s an intriguing camera as well!

[@Ansonandco]

Thanks dude! I had a blast! I can’t wait to share Friday’s video with everyone 😉

[@PavSZ]

Really enjoyed this! Solid review with great samples

[@Ansonandco]

Thanks dude!

[@mikaelwardhana2839]

Hi Anson, we crossed path in facebook too recently. Thanks for the balanced review. You pointed everything out in details, the pros and the cons. And you clearly stated that this is only a first look at the product, not a full review. And for that, bravo! I’ve been an FP user since the first day of release and I’ve just placed a pre order for the S9. So your answer to “who is this for”is spot on. The S9 is that FP with Ibis and autofocus and 10bit log that some of us have been waiting for *foregoing the raw cdng. Hope to see more of this LUT workflow in details in your future videos. Maybe show your audience how to create the LUT in the app, and maybe how to create one in Resolve and then transport it over to the camera? Thanks

[@MatthewDangyou]

BEST Everyday carry camera for simple photos! Love hanging with you brother!!

[@Ansonandco]

Yessir! 🫶🏻

[@cesarlorca_]

this thing looks fun not gonna lie

[@codyscheff]

Nice work Anson!! super good

[@Ansonandco]

Thanks dude!

[@TomCalton]

It was great hanging out with you in Osaka and sharing some Sake 😜

[@Ansonandco]

Dude yes! I watching your “Bigma” video last, hilarious btw, and I told my wife “I finished this guys Sake!” Hahaha great time for sure

[@fayed.untitled]

Fantastic video as always! Can't wait to see your full review of this camera and I hope to see a comparison video between the Lumix S9 and the Sigma FP. Thanks! : )

[@Ansonandco]

Definitely think there is a lot in common between the two cameras for sure

[@18yearsoldnot]

@@Ansonandcoplenty of differences though as well it seems. Is it possible to adapt the Blackmagic pocket 6k evf to the cold shoe of the s9?? I’d be happy to 3d print something

[@reesaoldyear7763]

Thanks for the video. I have two concerns about this camera, first being overheating which you addressed and I hope/believe there will be third party coolers coming out soon, and the second is the moire effect. Does it have the moire effect the same as s5ii and s5iix?

[@Ansonandco]

The sensor is the exact same as the s5ii and s5iix, so moire will be the exact same

[@JoshPostVlogs]

Cool review. Interesting camera. I wonder because of the form factor if this is competing with something like the Sony ZV-E1, but more beginner focused (slightly less expensive).

[@Ansonandco]

I don’t think it is honestly, if anything I think it competes with Fuji cams

[@contentm3893]

@@Ansonandco Sure it does. Maybe not in the quality of image produced but the look and having open gate seems like it does just enough to be respected. It's not called a cine camera but could have and should have.

[@jamescaldwell5]

I am a Sigma FPL photographer. I got a gimbal for Christmas and the video recording capabilities are amazing but the gimbal set up is kinda bulky. (My hands are not steady enough for pure hand held video). So the IBS is the feature I find most tempting. Plus I already have a bunch of L-mount lenses to use with it. In a perfect world they would be releasing the slightly more expensive 60mp version.

[@neilmarshall9408]

Great video as always man. I am wondering if this Lumix S9 will get Blackmagic RAW support 🤔. Other than that the Lumix S9 is one I will look into at some point

[@Ansonandco]

I don’t think BRAW will go anywhere near this camera from what they said at the event hahaha but we can hope!

[@akyerit]

I'm really glad you made the comparison to the sigma fp. How would you compare the two? I think the ibis on the S9 looks amazing in comparison to the FP. ANd the color lut creation thing is also a little cooler than I initially thought after doing more research. Hopefully the s5ii will get that. I can nab a sigma fp for around a grand, body only. And in many ways I still miss that little cool pocket powerhouse. But the obvious things that forced my hand to sell it were the lack of ibis and mechanical shutter really. I honestly didnt even care that much about the fact that the autofocus was practically non-existent. So on those notes, lol, whats your take? Does this have more or less what the FP was missing, but also hindered by similar limitations?

[@Ansonandco]

I feel like it fills the gaps that the sigma fp has. I really do feel like if you had issues with the fp cause of the lack of certain features, but like the size, this is the camera to check out, as long as you are ok with the record limits. I do think the fp image is more organic, while the s9 is more digital.

[@AjaySingh-228]

Great review Sir! This camera seems perfect for social media creators who need to get content out fast. The ability to download LUTs and sync photos and videos to the phone is a game changer. Are there any other cameras you can recommend for content creators ?

[@Ansonandco]

Thanks Ajay! Honestly any of newer phase detect autofocus lumix cameras, maybe some of the Sonys

[@AjaySingh-228]

@@Ansonandco Oh okay ..You are welcome sir

[@jmb53rr]

Looks like a decent camera option. I too am an Fp shooter and love Adobe CDNG. What are the odds that Panasonic will include CDNG on their maybe never to be released S1H II? Any thoughts?

[@Ansonandco]

I think they will stay away from CDNG, but I would be surprised if they don’t try to do raw of some kind

[@jmb53rr]

@@Ansonandco Thank you!

[@bardofhighrenown]

So I guess this is supposed to be a 'streamlined' Sigma fp for beginner videographers or those who don't want to shoot RAW? With the in camera presets and no editing approach. But as someone who doesn't do any video. I would probably pick up the fp for the extra $300 knowing that I would have a lot more room to grow plus the option of having an EVF if I really wanted it. It feels like a hard sell when the fp exists in the same mount. If this were on any other mount, it would make a lot more sense as a competitor to the fp. But I could be convinced that you buy an S9 as a beginner, then when you get deeper into your video shooting you can upgrade to a way more capable body and you get to take your lenses with you. But to me that only makes sense if S9 costs like ~$1200, not $1500

[@Ansonandco]

Yeah I do wish it was a different price for sure. I think it will be a matter of time before they discount it

[@ColorfieldMedia]

If they gave this external RAW, it would make a lot more sense.

[@Ansonandco]

I don’t think it would. The micro HDMI is on the grip. SUPER inconvenient spot

[@ColorfieldMedia]

@@Ansonandcoah, didn’t realize that. Yup, non starter.

[@pitrochied]

the shots look genuinely astonishing...

[@Ansonandco]

Thanks!

[@meatbyproducts]

It is for the casual shooter that wants more than a phone but not a full on camera like a Nikon Z8 or something loke that. Someone like my brother. He is not a pro, he leaves that to me, but he wants more than what a phone can give him. This is hitting what the old Nikon D5000/7000 line but in Full Frame.

[@aNumberOne]

This camera is perfect for real estate video. Having your Real estate luts already in the camera would speed up the work flow tremendously. Pare this baby with the sigma 16-28mm 2.8 and 28-70mm your real estate coverage will be set.

[@superarchangel]

Would you get the lumix 16-35 instead of the Sigma lenses you mentioned as a one only lens for real estate since anything over 50mm for real estate seem little use case unless you like to take detailed shots from afar. The lumix can also be good for street photography when traveling when not doing real estate? But the aperture is slower than the sigma, but then in real estate usually shoot F8 or above most of the time.

[@aNumberOne]

@@superarchangel I would still go with the sigma because inside homes with less light the 2.8 aperture comes in handy. But the lumix s pro 16-35 is a beast of a lens

[@MicroFourNerds]

Love love love the moody phone booth photos!

[@Ansonandco]

Thanks! They were my favorite shots from the trip for sure

[@slalom1987]

The Placement of the Micro HDMI and USB C Port ist an no Go for me. I own the GX80 and it’s terrible to have it on the Right Side. I was wondering how they couldn‘t fit an EVF, it was possible on the GX80 and GX9. How about the DMW-XLR1, does it work on the S9? Edit: The XLR1 Module is Not compatible and there is no headphone Jack

[@Ansonandco]

No headphone jack, cold shoe only. So no XLR1. Yeah I wasn’t a fan of the right side ports

[@slalom1987]

​@@AnsonandcoOk, the cold shoe is not cool at all 😂 i'm so disappointed, i wanted it to be my travel camera.

[@Ianou78]

How is it not a revamped Sigma Fp ? Is it any better ? Photo centric vs video centric ? Btw I love ducks too ! #Fp-L user

😅 i dont now, autofocus? Sigma got evf 🎉

[@Ansonandco]

Dude it didn’t make the cut in the final video but I legit said in the review that it’s like SIGMA called up lumix and asked them to make a non raw camera with all the things people have been asking for for years

[@Ansonandco]

Only if you pay 700 dollars for an attachment. I think they could still do one

Is for me and over all for my grilfriend 😊 she really likes the gm1 I give her 3 years a go.

[@Ansonandco]

Nice!

[@joenicklo]

Interesting. Could be something to just toss in a travel bag and go.

[@Ansonandco]

For sure! Especially with a tiny AF lens.

[@contentm3893]

This seems like the FX3. I like the camera.

[@Ansonandco]

I think the heat management and record limits makes the fx3 a more pro cam, but yeah

[@DustinArmstrongPro]

👀

[@Ansonandco]

👁️👁️

[@ClickPrintPlay]

First

[@Ansonandco]

Hell yeah!

[@RobinParmar]

Without a mechanical shutter or EVF, this is severely crippled related to the other Lumix S cameras. Has poor ergonomics with no back dial. Is not weather sealed. Only a single SD slot. Limited record times. Still costs €2000 for kit.

[@Ansonandco]

Definitely not for everyone

[@shingvictor]

And no hot shoe for flash…….. a camera with lots of deal breaker

[@Ansonandco]

@@shingvictor more power to you for use a flash with electronic shutter. Speaking from experience… do not recommend

[@shingvictor]

@@Ansonandco if it got a global shutter, I think it’s alright. But I don’t think Panasonic will put it in a “entry” level camera with a high cost. Let’s hope s9m2 will fix all those problems. Even Nikon z9, 8 only have electronic shutter, they don’t have much problem with flash

[@Ansonandco]

@@shingvictor good point

[@martysender5539]

Not me. Overheats. Quickly. Pass

[@TimofejNenarokov]

Let's be fair sigma fp older but almost similar

[@Ansonandco]

Dude it is. I honestly have both in my bag

[@TimofejNenarokov]

@@Ansonandco lost my fp in a divorce lol so I pobobly going to get s9 as a substitute

[@Ansonandco]

@@TimofejNenarokov I think it’s a GREAT alternative to the fp for sure

[@TimofejNenarokov]

I thin so to. Aspecaly as a second camera to leica sl3.

[@TimofejNenarokov]

@@Ansonandco by the way does it has lumix live compose?

[@dushyantbhatt9345]

no viewfinder bro ,. f8 pancake ,... very sad

[@Ansonandco]

Every is hating on this lens hahaha I am not BSing you when I say I love it. Is it fast? No, but it’s for spray and pray street photography, it doesn’t need to be fast. And is actually more beneficial that it’s not fast. Go watch my overview of it, I LOVE the images I got with it

[@dushyantbhatt9345]

@@Ansonandco yes I get what you saying but at least f4 would have been a good option

[@Ansonandco]

@@dushyantbhatt9345 I can get on bored with it. Maybe it makes sense if they marketed a little better. They literally announced this at the event as a lens to just point and shoot and everything would be in focus. Which if that is the case, it’s critical for it to be an f8 Plus I’ve seen videos of people talking about the 7artisans 35mm f5.6 and people were commenting they wish it was f8, so definitely and audience for it

[@hfmusicandmediagroup]

With no hot shoe, it doesn't do much for real photographers. That's disappointing for those of us that use OCF. Street, travel, and hobbyists and video creatives all good. Misses the mark for me.

[@Ansonandco]

Yeah it’s definitely not a studio camera for sure