Who is the Real Jesus? - Sir Anthony Buzzard & J. Dan Gill

[@MrPatdeeee]

Kind Sir's "Anthony Buzzard & H. Dan Gill"...your title really got me; because I have been searching; about Jesus, for 17 yrs! Yes, Studies, Prayers and Reading my Bible, etc. Now I'm 92 yrs old. And I believe, I've got a lot of the "Real". So... 4,000 yrs ago...Abraham called God's name "YHWH"*. And that stayed; until a little child (2024 yrs ago); where God told His Angel; to tell Mary to, "give his name to be "Yeshua"! (Hebrew", of course). Now... ...the entire New Testament, was written in Greek. So the name Yeshua; was translated into "Iesus" (in "Greek" language). For the Greek does not have the "J" letter! And it's the same today. But in 1638 AD; the name "Jesus" came out. And King James had the KJV 1611 Bible; from Iesus to be Jesus. Thus, I believe that is the REAL Jesus! But I Could be Wrong? ABSOLUTELY YES! But all the others Could be Wrong Too! So I must end me care... ...In any case Brethren, Please Pray OFTEN and Praise Jesus OFTEN; for He is the ONLY true "God Almighty"; there will ever have been. And may Jesus bless you and yours always. AMEN! * Sadly, the Israelites made many other names for it. But YHWH is the REAL!

[@neweyz3396]

Thank you Anthony & Dan , Marvellous Truth ! Blessings ❤😊

[@MusicLane1]

12 While I was with them, I was keeping them in Your name that You have given Me. I guarded them, and not one of them was lost except the son of destruction, so that the Scripture would be fulfilled. He came in the Fathers name the name He gave to His Son Jesus!!!

[@christaguenther7696]

The Holy Spirit led me to this belief while reading the Bible over and over. I have found solace finding others who have been given this revelation. It was a scary and lonely journey. No wonder Christ wondered if he would find faith when he returns.

[@zevolfearizona2113]

You aren't alone. It is a lonely and a bit frustrating walk.

[@NickHawaii]

@@zevolfearizona2113Jesus is the Son of the living God. (Matthew 16:16) The living God is Jehovah. (Jeremiah 10:10). Easy to see unless we have been conditioned otherwise.

[@zevolfearizona2113]

@NickHawaii not sure why you directed that at me but ok....

[@NickHawaii]

@@zevolfearizona2113 I was just sharing based on what you said that’s all that is required. Not sure what you meant by lonely journey though. I have many brothers and sisters who feel the same as me.

[@stommper1234]

“Christianity has disregarded its own founders creed” amen.

[@simonskinner1450]

@@stommper1234 I agree especially if you mean Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and the Torah given to Abraham for the Israelites. As Christianity divorced from its roots in the 2nd century.

[@JESUSPROPHETSANDAPOSTLES]

Which creed?

[@stommper1234]

@@JESUSPROPHETSANDAPOSTLES that there is no other God but HE, the Father

[@juniormonteiro6323]

Thank you!

[@JoeBizzle]

You can see the same corruptions happening today. If the words say something you don't like, you can't change the words, but you can change the definitions.

[@dboulos7]

Indubitably!

[@EliasEl-jarid-oy3ke]

Amen 100% correct brothers and sisters thank you we must sound preach teach and act like Jesus

[@JoeBizzle]

The apostles were killed for saying radical things. If they believed Jesus WAS God, then why didn't they say so? Were they worried about being criticized or killed?

[@henryklassen9196]

A great message Anthony and Dan! Lots of detail that "Trinitarians" and other false beliefs don't want to talk about. Anybody that wants further proof beyond question is recorded in Hebrews. Hebrews 7:15-28 tells the whole story. Pay close attention vs. 19-22 which establishes the fact that Jesus became a Priest via an oath. This isn't God Almighty making Himself a priest, but the Father is making His Son a Priest. All know who have studied this subject, KNOW that all isms in regards to who the real Jesus the Christ is, are confusing and can't take the plain meaning of the Scriptures. Father's blessings, Henry

[@vetajoshua]

Matthew 22:44 [44]The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool?

[@davidmccauley8034]

Lord Jesus is the fullness of the Godhead bodily. ❤

[@NickHawaii]

I’ve had over a hundred discussions with Anthony Buzzard over the years. Good to see him again. He is correct that the trinity doctrine is unscriptural but incorrect that the Son did not exist in heaven before coming to earth. The Son himself says he GOES BACK to where he was BEFORE. (John 6:62)

[@dboulos7]

You have to decide for yourself if Jesus was talking in his typical metaphorical manner: eat my flesh, cut off your limbs that cause sin, you must be born again, rebuild the temple in 3 days, etc., or in a literal fashion? If you go with the latter, you open up a whole can of worms of trying to explain how a preexistent being can be born in the womb of a woman, and grow up re-learning all things, and claiming ignorance to many things, and die on a cross, etc... The entire Gospel falls completely apart once you introduce a god-man into the framework. Jesus was not pre-existent, and only came to life and consciousness around 5 bc. Any allusions to his pre-existence is referring to his divine ordinance by the Father, to be the Messiah before the world began.

[@NickHawaii]

@ Yes many things said was not literal or illustrations as well. But when he says he Saw the Father and others have not he was using a contrast. When he says he was from the realms above and we are from the realms below he was showing he was different and says why. He doesn’t have to be a God-man on earth. He wasn’t. He was a man who was with his Father before coming to earth.

[@simonskinner1450]

Jesus was manifested to undo the works of the devil, he did as he returned access to eternal life for everyone, due to Jesus we can be baptised into the church.

[@JESUSPROPHETSANDAPOSTLES]

Baptized into the church? I hvnt heard that before..can you explain?

[@simonskinner1450]

@@JESUSPROPHETSANDAPOSTLES Translated into the church of his Son, taken from Colossians 1:13, the kingdom is the church as Colossians goes on to mention.

[@jgrahamiii7749]

Excellent dissertation! Much of what you have said, I concluded through other considerations of the Scripture but wanted to thank you for the revealing of the Hebrew word for "one". One of the problems of the trinity as it is popularly taught and understood is that it is essentially a Roman Catholic construct by way of Simon Magus who was a Samaritan priest, steeped in Babylonian beliefs. The very word "trinity" shows the manipulation of this doctrine, which originally mean "tri-unity". No one who understands the relationship that the Father, and His Son have along with the Comforter (as described in John 16) could not say they work closely together and therefore would have to be united in purpose. I believe John's gospel which declares "I and my Father are one" has to mean 'one in purpose' but not in identity, shows this relationship. It has been described to me that to understand this relationship, that all a student has to do is review the relationship Pharoah and Joseph had, where all of Egypt's workings had been accorded to Joseph, except matters of the throne room only. Another point I would like to bring up are the genealogies in Mathew and Luke respectively. Obviously the one in Mathew is the establishment of Jesus's claim to the throne of His father David. The translational error which calls Joseph Mary's husband should better be understood as her father. How difficult is it to see that more than one "Joseph" could be involved in His life? Since Mary is the recipient of the heir to the throne of David, that tells us something about her in that she would of necessity be 1) the eldest child of Joseph, and 2) she had no brothers. This leads us to consider that the genealogy given in Luke is not for Jesus as it is for Mary's husband, also called Joseph. The reason this genealogy is given is found in Numbers 36 where Moses lays out the rules for women's rights to inherit. The provision that pertains to the genealogy in Luke is that for a woman to retain her inheritance, she MUST marry within her own tribe. Otherwise, her inheritance goes to her husband's tribe. Luke's gospel firmly establishes that her husband Joseph was also of the House of Judah, thereby firmly ensuring the throne of David would pass to her firstborn Son.

[@vetajoshua]

Genesis 5:29 [29]And he called his name Noah, saying, This same shall comfort us concerning our work and toil of our hands, because of the ground which the LORD hath cursed.

[@vetajoshua]

Genesis 5:30 [30]And Lamech lived after he begat Noah five hundred ninety and five years, and begat sons and daughters: In the other book of the Jews, Lamech was surprised to have Noah as his son! He goes to Methuselah or Enoch and enquires, whether Noah was his truly Son!

[@zainiabdullah621]

CHRISTIANITY WOULD NEVER EXIST WITHOUT HELLENISTIC GREEK INTERPOLATIONS OF JUDAISM's TANAKH. Pagan Influence on Early Christianity. Historians and biblical scholars acknowledge : • Early Christian theology developed within a Greco-Roman context. • Pagan philosophies and practices influenced Christian thought. Interpretation of Judaism's Tanakh : • Early Christians reinterpreted Hebrew Scriptures (Tanakh) in the light of Jesus' life and teachings via third party narratives • Pagan allegorical interpretation methods were applied to Judaism's Tanakh texts. Examples : • Logos Theology (John 1: 1-14): Influenced by Greek philosophical concepts (Hermeticism, Stoicism). • Mithraic and Solar influences on Christmas and Easter celebrations. • Angelology and Demonology derived from Jewish and pagan apocalyptic literature. Key Figures : • Philo of Alexandria: Jewish philosopher who merged Greek and Hebrew thought. • Origen of Alexandria: Early Christian theologian who incorporated pagan interpretive methods. Implications : • Syncretism: Blending of different cultural and religious traditions. • Contextualization: Christianity adapted to its environment. Debate Among Bible Scholars : • Some argue pagan influences corrupted original Christian teachings. • Others see it as a natural process of cultural exchange and theological development. Similarities and Differences : • Shared motifs and symbols. • Distinctive Christian doctrines (Trinity, Incarnation). Explore further : • early Christian history and theology. • discuss pagan influences on Christianity. • investigate Plato, Aristotle, Philo and Origen's contributions in the development of Christianity. za

[@JESUSPROPHETSANDAPOSTLES]

so what are you implying in all that information you passed here?

[@zainiabdullah621]

@@JESUSPROPHETSANDAPOSTLES WHY DO CHRISTIANS GET SO UPSET when Muslims tell them that Jesus Christ was not killed, neither had he died ? HE WAS NOT CRUCIFIED NEITHER WAS HE KILLED, BUT GOD SAVED. WHY DO CHRISTIANS WANT JESUS CHRIST TO BE KILLED ?

[@laurasilverstone9735]

He is Almighty God. Jesus Christ HAMASHIACH in English. Yeshua in Hebrew.

[@NickHawaii]

The Son of the Most High is Jehovah. Jesus is the Son of the highest. (Psalm 83:18; Luke 1:32)

[@euston2216]

The real Jesus definitively tells us who he is. *REVELATION 22:16 (KJV)* *I JESUS* have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. *I am the root **_AND_** the offspring of David,* and the bright and morning star. 1. In David's family line, *any **_successor_** of David* would be a SON of *any **_predecessor_** of David.* 2. "The offspring of David" is a _successor_ of David. 3. "The root of David" is a _predecessor_ of David. 4. Therefore, *"the offspring of David"* would be a SON of *"the root of David".* 5. "The offspring of David" is JESUS. 6. "The root of David" is JESUS. 7. Therefore, *JESUS* would be a SON of *JESUS;* that is, JESUS would be _his own_ FATHER (God the Father), and _his own_ SON (the Son of God). _Revelation..._

[@JESUSPROPHETSANDAPOSTLES]

where do you place Jesse his father?

[@vetajoshua]

Then, why do you think, Cain killed Abel? Why do you think, there is Ishmael and Issac? Who do you think, Issac had two sons, Esau and Jacob!?😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@laurasilverstone9735]

JESUS CHRIST HAMASHIACH ALMIGHTY GOD

[@dboulos7]

God is not a man, ...how heretical of you.

[@laurasilverstone9735]

@dboulos7 He came as man to die for those who repent

[@dboulos7]

@@laurasilverstone9735 Why did He need to die (btw God can't die in any meaningful manner, obviously)?

[@laurasilverstone9735]

@@dboulos7 so if we repent, He will give us His everlasting life

[@dboulos7]

@@laurasilverstone9735 Sorry, why did he have to die - meaning why suffering and death as part of the Atonement? The answer is: because the wages of sin is death, and Christ was the sacrifice that made redemption for one's sins - just as the guilt and trespass offerings, more so Yom Kippur, of the Levitical Law. In other words, these oblations were OFFERED TO GOD - according to you trinitarians, God sacrificed Himself, to Himself. Do you see the absurdity???

[@ferrosjewellers4558]

You both are blind. God has blinded you from His truths. The Trinity is real, it begins already in Genesis and Jesus Christ said He and the Father are One. Jesus Christ is making Himself equal to God the Father.

[@NickHawaii]

Jesus never said he and his father were one God. Even in John 10:30 he didn’t say that if you look carefully. If he did it would be done and settled. He didn’t. He said they were one (Greek: HEN). He said his disciples are to also be one, HEN, with him and his Father. (John 17:20-23) Apollos and Paul and the ones who plant and water are one (HEN). How are they one? Same being?? Or one in love, purpose, work and will?? Your trinity is growing. The full truth is when “One God” is used in scripture. It is… εἷς HEIS And Heis is only used with one God = Father See: Ephesians 4:6 1 Corinthians 8:6 1 Timothy 2:5 I hope this helps open your eyes to the truth. (1 Thessalonians 5:21)

[@dboulos7]

You need to learn how to read Scripture, that is, not as a child. The word trinity, three-in-one, god-man, god-the-son, dual-nature, incarnation, hypostatic union, etc... appears nowhere in Scripture. Therefore the trinity does NOT begin in Genesis, nor does it end in Revelation. All Christians are to become one with God & Christ, just as Jesus is one with God - you don't seem to grasp the significance of two beings becoming one in Scripture, ...even that principle begins in Genesis, as God expresses how a man shall leave his father and mother and become one with his wife. And continues throughout the entire Bible as David and Jonathan became one, and as Christians are constantly exhorted to become with each other. Your assumptions and eisegesis undermines your credibility - the trinity is from the devil, ...even a 10 year old knows that it makes no sense.

[@NickHawaii]

@@dboulos7 True, Jesus said his disciples are to also be one, HEN, with him and his Father. (John 17:20-23) Apollos and Paul and the ones who plant and water are one (HEN). How are they one? Same being?? Or one in love, purpose, work and will?? The full truth is when “One God” is used in scripture. It is… εἷς HEIS And Heis is only used with one God = Father See: Ephesians 4:6 1 Corinthians 8:6 1 Timothy 2:5

[@ferrosjewellers4558]

@dboulos7 the Trinity is the Father, the Son and Holy Spirit. What don't you understand??

[@NickHawaii]

@ No where does it say the three subjects are one God.