All of this was 100% preventable but the police is not listen to Charles!
@PK-bh1ww4 жыл бұрын
These 2 bests would have found a way. And the police can't do anything without a court order. Otherwise it's "he said/ she said." He needed to get to court. But Lori saw that stopped with the help of her brother.
@estersmith92314 жыл бұрын
@ Zoe M you’re absolutely right. Police ignored Charles.
@outlawJosieFox4 жыл бұрын
Nor did they investigate Tammy's death properly ! The spouse should not have the last word on whether there is an autopsy or not! Especially not where the woman was only 49 years old and there is a large life insurance policy!
@refinnej53024 жыл бұрын
@@PK-bh1ww They had months to investigate Charles' murder. Had they done a proper investigation, those kids would still be alive. It's not just one incident. It's multiple and a big one that would have gotten them the court orders necessary to arrest Lori and her side piece, Alex.
@gigicosta11354 жыл бұрын
Exactly!!!👍
@kristen.aubrey4 жыл бұрын
And to think they told the world their kids were “safe” while they honeymooned in Hawaii. Sickening.
@kidscats39524 жыл бұрын
I agree but in their twisted belief, once the kids "zombie bodies" were done away with, then the true spirits of the kids were free. So in that way I suppose you could say they believed they were safe. Quite crazy.
@chowgaff20604 жыл бұрын
@Kids&cats yeah well if they really believed that they would have killed their "zombie bodies" too they killed the kids and any belief can't detour from that
@juliaweber50264 жыл бұрын
They are crazy you don’t listen to a crazy ex Mormon chad books tell me he went far beyond and I wouldn’t be surprised that the church or his bishop was concerned I wouldn’t be surprised they were concerned about him
@lindseysantana37284 жыл бұрын
Reporter: “ We’re praying for your kids.” Lori: “That’s great.” Woooooooooooooow
@anonamos91024 жыл бұрын
@@jameselrod8615 in all honesty their beliefs are no crazier than the "normal religions". They just used the term zombies. Think about what "normal" religious beliefs are.
@247KW4 жыл бұрын
Please do a show on how the Arizona police failed Charles and the kids! Bring attention to them so it gets investigated. They need different rules for how cases are handled. This could have been prevented
@karenburns94 жыл бұрын
Yes, totally unreal how le let that murderer go, bet Alex was even surprised ! If he was in jail might have prevented some of these murders !
@heidibrown23574 жыл бұрын
The biggest problem is that Lori Vallow is a sociopath. She knows how to work people. She has her beliefs, but when the police in Arizona called her in for a psych evaluation, she passed with flying colors. Because she's a sociopath. She knows what to say and how to say it to not look crazy. So the things that Charles said couldn't be proven with a psych eval. At that point it's a marital dispute that is he said/she said. Alex Cox should have been investigated way more over killing Charles...the children might have lived if Alex had gone to prison for murder.
@user-ht4ii1wi6u4 жыл бұрын
Yes please
@desertfox20004 жыл бұрын
Seriously, he dies after he tells them that she's unhinged and he's worried about JJ. Also they probably already knew that Lori's last husband died of heart failure but only after her brother tried to kill him. The cops should have at least taken the kids away after Charles died.
@247KW4 жыл бұрын
@@desertfox2000 totally agree. Plus once the kids were in custody they couldve found out what really took place. Now Charles is dead, both kids are dead, Tammy is dead, Alex is dead and Brandon was almost dead. I can only imagine if Brandon had died where his 5 children would've been placed. Lori and Chad need charges brought on them for all the deaths.
@FunkyMonkeyInvestigations4 жыл бұрын
Isnt it sad that people that dont know these kids have more mad love for these kids, than their parents and family😭
@prestonnorris98224 жыл бұрын
I can't fathom how a parent can do such horrid things to their own children...unforgivable
@rafaeladelluft59054 жыл бұрын
The dad who got killed loved the children
@FunkyMonkeyInvestigations4 жыл бұрын
@WC I rarely share this, but I had been violently raped, after hospitalization, I found out I was pregnant. I dont believe In abortion and i had considered adoption but my dad stayed with me thru it and helped me understand, my child was innocent. I raised her, today she has a doctorate in law. If I couldn't murder a child over something like this, how can you take the life of a child born in love and adopted in love? I cannot wrap my head around it.
@FunkyMonkeyInvestigations4 жыл бұрын
@@rafaeladelluft5905 yes he did, very much.❤
@FunkyMonkeyInvestigations4 жыл бұрын
@@rafaeladelluft5905 your name is very interesting! Is it taken from the angel?
@mary_teatowel4 жыл бұрын
Chad was never Tylee and JJ's step-father, never!!!
@linanicolia13633 жыл бұрын
this is a technicality. You seem uptight about the term step father. This one is factual but certainly dysfunctional and criminal as well. Chad is not a generic trade mark for all stepfathers. Let it go......
@Dilligaf13 жыл бұрын
@@linanicolia1363If they were killed in September & Chad married Lori in November, he indeed never was their stepfather...
@MsTammi1254 жыл бұрын
I never met Tylee and JJ, but I know I'll never forget them now. Rest in peace 💓
@barbaracarlson50184 жыл бұрын
This is a sick story. Those poor children.
@Aromapablo4 жыл бұрын
Yea fr
@ginabarrows39584 жыл бұрын
Just like watts...
@sharongaines16584 жыл бұрын
If it had not been for the JJ’s grandparents, they may have gotten away with it! Scary!
@chantellegattrell7073 Жыл бұрын
This is not like watts at all
@christywandover714 жыл бұрын
He is not their step dad. Quit saying that!
@marideathydeelz9144 жыл бұрын
Even now, listening to the story, it shatters my reality to see those children’s faces and know they are really gone. The facts of who did this is simply evil. I am a mother,and there is nothing I would not do FOR my children, not TO them.
@DarkmacGG4 жыл бұрын
world needs more moms like yourself an mine. ♡
@mikimiyazaki4 жыл бұрын
I cant believe how dumb people are. Alot of people thought there was a 50/50 they were alive all the way until they found there bodies.
@voicije4 жыл бұрын
serial killers are known to start by killing animals....
@anonymouse98834 жыл бұрын
Good catch
@PK-bh1ww4 жыл бұрын
The raccoon mention was just a ruse. No animal was killed. The pet cemetary was for Daybells kids pets. He had 5 kids. Now grown.
@Shieldmaiden6004 жыл бұрын
Lol not always.
@voicije4 жыл бұрын
@@Shieldmaiden600 i didn't say that...but many of them do
@marcyc.33114 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@juanap22304 жыл бұрын
His text alone makes him guilty,he carried out the hit order.
@MsBarbara.6514 жыл бұрын
Yes. Not only does it say he buried her, but it seems to say he shot her as well.
@shell84814 жыл бұрын
@@MsBarbara.651 all part of her plan, everyone doing her bidding, yet little to no factual evidence directly proving her guilt. Chad is so dumb, it wouldn't take some kind of spiritual messages from above to tell you he would definitely be the next dead husband in her life in time . she is pathological. they all deserve the same treatment they dealt to those poor kids. RIP ANGELS.
@desertfox20004 жыл бұрын
Cox: Hey Chad where do you want me to bury the bodies? Daybell: Somewhere they will never find them. Cox: How bout your back yard? Daybell: Sure, let me text my wife about shooting a raccoon just so no one gets suspicious. Cox: You're an evil genius, I'm glad I'm on your side so I can live a long life.
@kariebowen71284 жыл бұрын
😁😁😁correct
@MistressKarma69694 жыл бұрын
Sadd but tru😂
@kellyschutte22524 жыл бұрын
It’s almost like you were there! Lol
@jc4784 жыл бұрын
Regardless if Alex died naturally or was murdered, he got what he had coming to him. Call it Karma, or the will of God, he was no victim.
@rise-amorph81784 жыл бұрын
Till cox ends up dead
@jadeheart9114 жыл бұрын
I think his "racoon" story was a Narcissist "telling " on himself.....they love to tell the story but not the whole story so as not to incriminate themselves.
@MsBarbara.6514 жыл бұрын
Yes. And I think he's the one who killed her too. (shooting the raccoon)
@JessieSocial4 жыл бұрын
Agree on that.
@brodiedeakin44934 жыл бұрын
How can they not be charged when children are dead. That mother has not a feeling in her body for anybody, how does she live with herself. Absolutely disgracefull
@brodiedeakin44934 жыл бұрын
Something not right here, why are they not getting some sort of charge. Awful what shes done to them poor kids. They are not suffering anymore they've gone to a better place . How can you do that to your own children. What an evil person.
@whiteraven694 жыл бұрын
josie excellent insights...
@RoseSharon77774 жыл бұрын
I bet if you investigate Chad's childhood, you'll find more bizarre behavior.
@dabouras4 жыл бұрын
I doubt this is his first rodeo. He liked hanging around the gals too much. Loo for other sudden deaths and large insurance pay outs amongest his flock.
@hk2374 жыл бұрын
To be honest with you the so called close family of lori doesn't seem so close. Theres probably bizarre behavior there too. Although she does seem to like all attention on her.
@amypieterse37064 жыл бұрын
his prior wife died under suspicious circumstances
@hk2374 жыл бұрын
@Beth McPoland so interesting to know why. I found it so very odd that interview that Lori's mother and sister had. Her mother seemed to only try to save the tarnish of the family name. She said they were a close family, but they were never invited to any of Lori's weddings.....why?
@linanicolia13633 жыл бұрын
Well he was a grave digger and became a poor and creepy writer whose clever wife managed to be his publisher. Without her, he had no business but he found Lori, who had no issue with killing husbands. That was the spark ! they clicked !!!! she had killed and he wanted to do the same so they could share.....and they did. They are one couple who shared the crimes and should be one couple who shares the fine or should I say....the penalty and disgrace. I expect Lori either killed Tylee's father or had Alex do it. At that time, he was her official hit man. It is all about to be exposed. The wonderful world of electronics !
@mamallama77084 жыл бұрын
He did not say that it was tree limbs he burned , it was, "i burned some limbs".
@pommiebears4 жыл бұрын
Mama Llama I’m pretty sure he referenced branches, or tree limbs. Doesn’t matter anyway, we know what he did. Edit...no, you’re right. He says “limb debris” doesn’t he? Rotten monster.
@anonanon85074 жыл бұрын
Mama Llama Chad a Vile, evil, monster. His comment fun times.
@marierush79434 жыл бұрын
I agree chad said he burned limbs . It does matter because he is a killer also
@karinavirgo51454 жыл бұрын
I don't even notice many trees on the property 😕
@sherries79624 жыл бұрын
I think Kay would have gladly taken both of these kids.
@lesliegranowski26834 жыл бұрын
Without a doubt and given lots of love
@YAYA-bv7po4 жыл бұрын
but why not take him in the first place?
@katiekane52474 жыл бұрын
@@YAYA-bv7po Lori didn't want to give up the money she was getting. I'm sure thats why she didn't give him up.
@ssherrierable4 жыл бұрын
Well than they should have had them from day 1. If they miss jj so much than why let there son charles raise him? The grandparents are the next closest thing to the parents. But now that he is dead they want him. I dont get that part.
@Bearsie4134 жыл бұрын
@@ssherrierable -Kay was Charles's SISTER not mother. Kay's son is JJ biological father. Charles and a then "normal" Lori offered to adapt him, and raise him and allowed Kay to still have a grandparent's rights and visitation. Had Charles and Lori not stepped up they would have raised him themselves.
@lilyr72214 жыл бұрын
This is so sad..poor Tylee was murder then chopped up! Some of her body parts were burned n some were buried. JJ was killed and his body was plastic wrapped n duck tape! These poor kids died such a horrible death by the people they trust the most!
@rafaeladelluft59054 жыл бұрын
Horrible
@Heatherlopez234 жыл бұрын
I know 😔 plus the neighbors said they heard a gunshot....
@lalalevej24784 жыл бұрын
For real. The only thought that's been helping me is that those two sweet things are in a place where nobody will hurt them ever again. Now, the proverbial shnit has hit the fan, and the wheels of justice will mow their asses down.
@watchgoose4 жыл бұрын
@Donald Bauman That's not what Jesus taught.
@ginabarrows39584 жыл бұрын
😢😢😢😢😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@bonnulu63844 жыл бұрын
Who murdered the kids? Everyone who knew they were in danger and chose to do nothing.
@ghostwalk24464 жыл бұрын
Particularly the police who didn't take Charles Vallow seriously, they failed him and those kids and should be held accountable
@lindah50114 жыл бұрын
Time will tell.
@normagallimore21314 жыл бұрын
I totally agree!!
@alicewatt41544 жыл бұрын
I totally agree especially Lori's friend
@innerlight46014 жыл бұрын
I remember Lori's mother and sister were insisting that kids must be alive and safe with Lori,they said she's a wonderful mom and kids are safe with her 😠😠😭
@angybear11124 жыл бұрын
The fact that they put her in a pet cemetery is disgusting, disgraceful, and inhumane. Shows exactly what they thought about her, that she’s merely an animal. Rip Tylee and JJ
@THETASTERSTWINS4 жыл бұрын
He had to kill Tylee first because she might have tried to save her brother.
@artiejohnson7034 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@nonyabusiness74 жыл бұрын
Exactly 😢
@ameliasingleton11664 жыл бұрын
Its sad but I wanna know how they were killed
@linanicolia13633 жыл бұрын
Tylee had to die because she had been a witness to Charles murder. She knew what happened and it was not the way Alex and Lori quoted....Lori was also feeling she wanted to be free of kids and the responsibilities that come with it. JJ was a hand full and the money she expected from Charles went to Kay. He then became a burden. Up to then, Lori was receiving about 6K a month to care for these kids. That was about to dry out and she wanted to be a new bride, without attachments, while Chad eliminated his own wife. He and Lori married less than 2 weeks after she died. Lori purchased that wedding ring and wedding garb on line, about 2 weeks before Tammy died, charging it to Charles's account, who BTW had been dead for a while. What the Hell ??????? If all this is not huge circumstantial, what is ????? a smoking gun should not be necessary. We have all the proofs and plans we need.......
@rosierose1917 Жыл бұрын
@@ameliasingleton1166JJ was asphyxiated with tape and a bag. It's not known how Tylee died but it was a homicide. 😕
@robertkrout39164 жыл бұрын
He said he was burning "limbs" never said tree limbs😢
@paulinegray79404 жыл бұрын
Who says limbs. You would say branches. It's a metaphor.
@markzelinski44344 жыл бұрын
My question is, why would his kids move into his house after he went to jail?! You know there were just children’s bones found on the property right? Sick!
@razztazz19824 жыл бұрын
I would bet money his kids & many other cult members knew what was going on, but their brainwashed minds believe that everything Chad says & does is approved by God, so dead bodies for the cause doesn't bother them. I have to wonder, where are the rest of the bodies? Brandon said in court (and it was filed on record) that Chad's cult members were being killed like flies, including children. LI needs to ensure all of Chad's followers are accounted for, and hardcore interrogate any that are still alive. Keep in mind, Chad & Lori believe the world is ending next month, so who knows how many more people they've murdered.
@sandrahilton91224 жыл бұрын
His son narrated some of Chad's books. So yeah I think they knew
@mrsp74814 жыл бұрын
Kids are probably getting rid of all the other people he deemed "zombies" and hid in the walls
@stephaniefreeamericancitiz14894 жыл бұрын
My guess,is that once it was released as a crime scene, family moved in to prevent the property from being tresspassed & vandalized. Chad may also have deeded it through his attorney once he was in custody, so as to keep the real estate asset within the family.
@TheCarolyncmstewart4 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing
@madi14944 жыл бұрын
If it wasn't for Kay woodcock those poor kids may not have every been found 💛
@anonamasnoname90984 жыл бұрын
It's sad no one wanted jj and then he ended up with a narcissist.
@herdmentality18943 жыл бұрын
@@anonamasnoname9098 not true his grandparents wanted him desperately in fact if they hadn't kept insisting the kids were in danger from their mother they wouldn't have been found.
@lillyusa4 жыл бұрын
It’s beyond me that they actually believed they are gonna live they lives without no one noticing those kids are gone.
@rosesweetcharlotte4 жыл бұрын
I don't think they thought anyone would care
@dalenedaylean35554 жыл бұрын
Both Chad and Lori believe the world ends July 23
@debbiespinelli14 жыл бұрын
Melanie said Lorie told her no one would notice.😳😒😣
@claudetteharrison24004 жыл бұрын
This makes me so mad. If the cops would of listened to j j dad them kids would still be here,
@WillowAboveAndBeyond4 жыл бұрын
Yes, and Charles and Tammy too!!!
@dutchreagan4 жыл бұрын
I disagree completely, Claudette. Even if the police believed Charles and then Community Bridges kept her for 72 hours observation, how would that have "stopped" any of the madness that followed? It wouldn't because Lori was going to kill Charles for that $1,000,000 insurance policy NO MATTER WHAT.
@HotMessMemories14 жыл бұрын
@Claudette Harrison I concur. 🐷 👮 always F things up.
@kar8914 жыл бұрын
@@HotMessMemories1 so how would the family (and the public) know if the detectives didn't stop looking for them? So how did they F things up?
@HotMessMemories14 жыл бұрын
Kar it wasn’t until the FBI stepped in to get things accomplished, you idiot.
@emmaedele17544 жыл бұрын
I cant wait for Tammy's autopsy results........and what chemicals they find
@realroyal.54894 жыл бұрын
Me toooooo...its taking too long..
@barbedwire_lace21604 жыл бұрын
Talk is Chad may have used embalming fluid to kill Tammy. Which he had access to since he worked at a funeral home and she was embalmed and buried right away...so. Going to have a hard time proving it.
@FunkyMonkeyInvestigations4 жыл бұрын
Emma if u hear about it before me, please tag me! ❤thx or anyone!
@Maybe.Its_You4 жыл бұрын
I doubt they will find anything. They took to long to do a autopsy. I hope they will, but we all know how that’s going to turn out.
@lalalevej24784 жыл бұрын
@@barbedwire_lace2160 - You would think, for a dude whose career was burying people, he would know that burning a body just doesn't happen in a couple of hours. Part evil genius, part babbling, drooling buffoon. I don't know how he does it. 🤣
@Blackout2198524 жыл бұрын
We all knew they killed those kids. We were just waiting for them to catch on.
@randomstuffwithcarole86874 жыл бұрын
I t would be terrible if they got away with this.
@1romancatholic4 жыл бұрын
They will not.
@DaniellaR-xp4cp4 жыл бұрын
To much evidence against them.
@tamiweber94094 жыл бұрын
That will never happen, They are "Killer's" "Liars," and "Greedy"
@stephi5864 жыл бұрын
If the justice system fails best believe street justice will happen. But more than likely they’ll get theirs in prison. The prisoners don’t like baby/kid killers and I hope they beat them to near death then let them lay to suffer.
@jamiehoover93484 жыл бұрын
Overwhelming evidence, it's just gonna take about 2 years for prosecution to take them to trial, they havent even been charged with murder yet ,but I guarantee that's comin real.soon but trial unfortunately will take time to piece all the pathology, cell phone pings, possible surveillance video , etc... together, but they will pay dearly for what they've done....
@diazrigau4 жыл бұрын
Guys wait, they are building the case. Give the people time.
@outlawJosieFox4 жыл бұрын
Pet cemetery? I thought that they only lived there 9 years!? How many dead pets did this family have? I've bad the same dog for 10 years now and hope to have him for a few more !
@cathyhafer39434 жыл бұрын
Good question? How many? Did they die of natural causes or did chad kill the pets.
@sandrahilton91224 жыл бұрын
I've only heard of one cat and one dog being found there.
@SweetUniverse4 жыл бұрын
Same here
@cynthiaweldon63834 жыл бұрын
With poor Tylee being Dismembered, most likely what was in the fire pit was her limbs. GOB BLESS HER.😪💔
@elisabetamicske57174 жыл бұрын
😱😱😪😪
@livelaughlove18344 жыл бұрын
Tylee was 16 and JJ was 7 when they went missing not 17 and 8.
@kristenjustkristen94624 жыл бұрын
C'mon. Quit nitpicking. I'm sorry, but it really irks me to see people squabbling about minuscule things when we should be contacting the Govenor demanding justice for these murdered people. Tammy, JJ, and Tylee. He should appoint a special prosecutor imo. Anything to prevent another Casey Anthony case!!!!
@j4kgang9214 жыл бұрын
Why. They. Lie. About. Their. Age. Then?!
@jessicadavis20794 жыл бұрын
See, I had a question about this. Didn't Tylee go missing the day before her birthday? Or was she murdered on her birthday?
@rosadelnorte-i6n4 жыл бұрын
@@jessicadavis2079 Tylee's birthday was Sept. 24 (the day after J.J. went missing). I think the reason why some people refer to them as 17 and 8 years old is because they both had birthdays while they were missing. Because there was no confirmation yet that they were dead, reporters continued to talk about them as if they were alive (which would make them 17 and 8). I guess it's still hard for some people to reconcile the fact that they were dead the whole time and they never had those birthdays. I agree with @Kristen JustKristen , it's something minuscule and petty and not worth squabbling about.
@jessicadavis20794 жыл бұрын
@@rosadelnorte-i6n Thank you for the correct information. And as I agree with the last statement, I also prefer the facts. Might seem of little importance to most, but I'm just not part of that majority. I have daughters who are teens. Again, thank you for the information.
@jr-mynext50years414 жыл бұрын
Has anyone spoken with Alex's new wife about any of his? Has she made any comments? Just curious.
@gavebirthtoqueens67714 жыл бұрын
J R - My next 50 years not that I’m aware of
@francescawilliams81774 жыл бұрын
Nobody seems to know who she is and if anyone does, they are not willing to expose her
@refinnej53024 жыл бұрын
She's busy trying to bring on Earthquakes for the end of the world.
@claudialu4 жыл бұрын
Her 2 lawyers spoke on dateline, she lawyered up. Lori's friend April said the things Lori told her about Zulema were almost laughable, referring to Zulema's special powers.
@LDRowe19604 жыл бұрын
As for Cox, he and Zulema Pastenes got married in Las Vegas November 29, 2019. On a marriage certificate obtained by FOX 10's Justin Lum, it was stated that Cox changed his name from "Alexander Lamar Cox" to "Alexander Lamar Pastenes" following the marriage.
@Lexylulee4 жыл бұрын
What do they mean who killed them??? The same lady who went and got married in Hawaii with a huge smile!! 🤦🏽
@workoutwarrior31184 жыл бұрын
For real..... I don’t understand, it’s a done deal! LIFE FOR A LIFE.. or should I say two ugly lives for two beautiful ones.... Rest In Peace Tyler and JJ....
@jessieessex4 жыл бұрын
Aloha-oe, Aloha-oe... :(
@rakesfunnyfarm4 жыл бұрын
The state has to prove who killed them. How they killed them and why.
@watchgoose4 жыл бұрын
@@rakesfunnyfarm exactly. A lot of people don't get that.
@houseofsolomon24404 жыл бұрын
Recent court appearances show her with a big case of sad-face ☹
@susankenney75364 жыл бұрын
I bet they aren't smiling now
@xtinamarie_3334 жыл бұрын
Bet she wont be wearing red lipstick any more 🤬👎
@clairebyrne17254 жыл бұрын
Hopefully the smile wipe off their faces in prison.
@chelwesch684 жыл бұрын
Who killed tylee and JJ simple Chad,Lori, and Alex. I think Lori poisoned JJ and chad shot tylee. Alex just took them to Chads. Chad convinced Lori they were zombies and needed to die to release their souls. Those sick bastards chopped up tylee.
@cindyb87754 жыл бұрын
and let us not forget the two melanie's. they need held accountable in this as well. I truly believe they are way more involved than they try to present that they were.
@chelwesch684 жыл бұрын
@@cindyb8775 if Melanie p gets custody of her kids who's not to say there won't be more child sacrifice. Chad was question in the disappearance of Kiplyn Davis I'm sure he help dispose of her as well.
@cindyb87754 жыл бұрын
@@chelwesch68 agreed and well said! spot on chel.
@beckymitchell62404 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your coverage on this case!!!!
@meaowsandwhistles4 жыл бұрын
Hate to say it but I smell a movie coming on this
@butterflysnme7244 жыл бұрын
Toni Shields that's been what I have been thinking all along. Here comes Lifetime.
@covidinfectedmonkeypox67754 жыл бұрын
Books for sure
@susanmetz98924 жыл бұрын
Toni Shields . I feel your correct Toni.
@braddvaughn60764 жыл бұрын
Although Chad and Lori can't profit from a crime !
@kadobi1894 жыл бұрын
Netflix series
@WillowAboveAndBeyond4 жыл бұрын
This is just so sad 😞 My heart goes out to kay and other family that love these children.
@kirstenbaisner2154 жыл бұрын
Who else had a cell phone ping along with Alex? Surely investigators must know.
@dazzlingextremes3894 жыл бұрын
They won't be able to start revealing all that until trial... Alex is dead that's why his stuff has been released.
@leahvogelsimpson4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I thought that too. Chads had to be there at the same time too. Scumbag people
@dalenedaylean35554 жыл бұрын
Maybe Lori's phone was there too
@axemangang15844 жыл бұрын
It was reported that chad and lori used throw away phones. Guess it's harder to follow them
@rakesfunnyfarm4 жыл бұрын
@@dazzlingextremes389 Tammy too
@blancaharo4884 жыл бұрын
Oh my god , just got chills hearing this details I can’t even understand why? This children were so beautiful RIP Tylee & JJ 💕💕🌹
@joannemurdock78994 жыл бұрын
I agree the grandparents, an auntie, the older brother to JJ and Tylee were all on Dr.Phil crying grieving upset wanting to know where their beloved children were the grandparents offered a reward for information about where they might b, they had family who would have taken them in Charles their Dad wanted to look after them.Lorir is just Evil to the core. 😩
@blancaharo4884 жыл бұрын
Joanne Murdock, yes I also have seen the grandparents pain for these beautiful kids and it’s just so heartbreaking! I hope as they find closure they also have peace and strength ! Prayers & blessings for them 🙏🙏🙏
@marciewing62404 жыл бұрын
Sad sad sad. Heart breaking for those babies.
@Cdestifanes4 жыл бұрын
I want to know more about Chad and Zulems’s relationship. And what Zulema knows
@NJG05164 жыл бұрын
Mee too. I actually think she killed Alex on Lori's orders.
@LDRowe19604 жыл бұрын
I thought Zulema was Alex’s wife. Pretty sure that’s what Melanie Gibbs said in her interview.
@LDRowe19604 жыл бұрын
RELATED: Click here for an interactive timeline of events surrounding the case As for Cox, he and Zulema Pastenes got married in Las Vegas November 29, 2019. On a marriage certificate obtained by FOX 10's Justin Lum, it was stated that Cox changed his name from "Alexander Lamar Cox" to "Alexander Lamar Pastenes" following the marriage. Found this online from Fox 19 news Phoenix
@SRM20254 жыл бұрын
Cdestifanes Zulema along with Lori and Chad lawyered up immediately and refuse to talk. 😡
@MadebyaBEAutifulqueenBea4 жыл бұрын
If my kids were ever missing, I would search high and low. Praying for the family. 💙🐝💙
@whitney66414 жыл бұрын
You dont have to search for them when you already know where they're buried...
@EricaFrieson-t2t6 ай бұрын
I feel really badly for us the public, with normal human emotions, having to mentally process what those sadistic goons did to those poor children, and to Charles and Tammie also. Nightmare material!
@robertagilbert123454 жыл бұрын
OMG!!!.... This is just so sad😭. Thanks for keeping us updated on this case.
@lesliegranowski26834 жыл бұрын
The mom let Alex take them!!! She was there and have them to her murdering brother All planned That's why they moved So no one knew they were missing And she could escape may and Larry Just soon sad
@paiger10844 жыл бұрын
I believe also this was all planned for sometime .
@Mixedmacnuts4 жыл бұрын
They moved so no one knew they were missing???? Lori must be super stupid because how about jj's grandparents or how about lori's eldest son? Wouldn't THEY ASK where kids are? How about ty's friends or cousins? How about Lori's family? There are tons of people that would inquire about the kids and want to see them.
@eleishajoe38504 жыл бұрын
This is just sad and sick
@simonabob80384 жыл бұрын
My guess is that on July 22nd THEIR world is gonna end. They might’ve got that right!
@axemangang15844 жыл бұрын
Gee when god/jesus fails to show up to free them , lori and chad will panic
@razztazz19824 жыл бұрын
@@axemangang1584 That's when Chad, Lori & their followers will pull a Jim Jones.
@rjmullinz22584 жыл бұрын
If only
@simonabob80384 жыл бұрын
The reason why they are acting so innocent is because in their minds and hearts they still believe they are the chosen ones and that is their calling. Everything that’s happening in the world right now for them is just a confirmation of their beliefs. Soon we’ll find out that is was their calling to go to jail so they can evangelize and bring salvation to sinners. Human mind is a marvelous thing.
@BiG-JuPO1O14 жыл бұрын
@@simonabob8038 It passed July 22nd , all they are just sick twisted minded monsters with no heart or care in this world.
@mamacopter90074 жыл бұрын
No disrespect to the family but I'm curious as to why the "beasts" felt it was necessary to dismember and burn precious Tylee... "Fly High Sweet Angels, Fly High."
@rosesweetcharlotte4 жыл бұрын
This is easy. You see, most murderers underestimate just how hard it is to burn a human body. My guess is that they thought they would burn her first but then decided to bury her when they realized that they could never get the fire hot enough for long enough to actually destroy the body.
@dazzlingextremes3894 жыл бұрын
Probably bc they likely killed her at the apartments... Had to carry her out most likely. Sick none the less.
@watchgoose4 жыл бұрын
@SouthernTruth Chick if people aren't in kindergarten, then they shouldn't write like they are.
@katherinekeon70344 жыл бұрын
@@watchgoose go try to have a bowel movement you old fart. We're going to use number letters slang whatever we want. That's how we roll. Quit being Grammar Nazis. Go have a good toot. Let everybody enjoy themselves.
@DMJ160 Жыл бұрын
@@watchgoose ok ms. Perfect!
@kathygalloway29904 жыл бұрын
So very HEARTBREAKING!!!
@kassi35384 жыл бұрын
Chads body language in that photos looks like one of a guilty man.
@lornab25554 жыл бұрын
Heartbreaking.........such a loss! Only a monster could do this!
@katherinekeon70344 жыл бұрын
Monsters, plural.
@georgiefacchinni34294 жыл бұрын
Does Idaho have the death penalty?? I sure hope so.
@firstladygenevieve36884 жыл бұрын
I believe it does
@amybaker35514 жыл бұрын
It definitely does.
@erinsinclair-pequeen20524 жыл бұрын
Last used in 1957
@allthetrees4 жыл бұрын
Yes we do and I hope we use it.
@pattyg44214 жыл бұрын
They don’t deserve the easy way out (death penalty)!!!! They should be locked up in a 6x6 cell with a solid door No lights. Only an opening for their food. Let out once in a while to do the 3 S’s put back in and have the rest of their sick lives to reflect on their actions. God bless those who have died at the hands of these evil, evil demons.
@GrizzlieMan4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, none of this seems real..
@GrizzlieMan4 жыл бұрын
James Elrod it makes you wonder.. if people are starting to be excommunicated from the LDS church because they’re now talking.. is this just a typical, everyday occurrence? But much like the Catholic Church with child rape, Polygamy within the LDS/child brides, Scientology with using their infinite amount of money to keep certain situations out of the public and other “religious” sects.. This has to be more common than we could ever imagine. Our society is so caught up .. we just watch this stuff on television or read about it.. we get angry and ultimately go about our everyday lives.. some craziness is obviously happening amongst a lot of religious sects and the majority are simply blinded by our own disbelief..
@tamiweber94094 жыл бұрын
This reality is sickening 😳
@ms.summers65404 жыл бұрын
ARREST THEM ALL. Go get both Melanie's, go get Colby, go get Julie, they allllllll lying.
@yvettethomas55334 жыл бұрын
except for Colby. he loved those babies.
@NJG05164 жыл бұрын
Not Colby, he was trying to find them and luved them.
@donnawalker83524 жыл бұрын
@@yvettethomas5533 but he knew his MOM😢 he kept wanting to get to her to talk to her 💪 BUT everyone lies for each other and covers up for each other 🙏🙏
@yvettethomas55334 жыл бұрын
but you can know someone for years, and NOT know them, even if you are their child. He was begging his mother to talk. He loved his brother and sister, and wanted to know of their well be-ing. I dont think he was covering for her. He legitimetly wanted to know where they were.
@a.i.marvin61804 жыл бұрын
Chad was a "professional" grave digger ???
@gavebirthtoqueens67714 жыл бұрын
A.I. Marvin it was his day job for years
@marybrown53604 жыл бұрын
Yea and Lori was a professional gold digger.
@dominickjvlogs4 жыл бұрын
Thanks everyone for the continued coverage
@odpparker21624 жыл бұрын
They went to Hawaii to keep the law away from the yard..thanks to an upstanding neighbor telling them about the fires , that brought it all to light
@vernamorales2326 Жыл бұрын
When you cut up and burn someone you don't deserve to ever breath again!!!!!!!
@babyboomer56 Жыл бұрын
Exactly Verna. What the hell is wrong with the justice system and society. I don't care if that idiot, psychotic, poor excuse for a mother claims she was nuts. Get rid of her by death. She is of NO use to live in our world. Put her under the dirt and be done with it.
@rhondag33544 жыл бұрын
I find it extra sad and disgusting that those scumbags couldn’t even bury Tylee and JJ together.
@LB-xk6fk4 жыл бұрын
Excellent segment all. Great info. Thank you for keeping us updated.
@Daf37044 жыл бұрын
Chad didn't say he was burning tree limbs he said "limb debris" Limb being the keyword.
@amandabaldounis664 жыл бұрын
Those poor kids...
@dalanandrews1664 жыл бұрын
It is likely Tylee was dismembered in the apartment the night Alex was there in the middle of the night, meaning Lori was there. I wonder if they've checked the bathroom with luminol.
@butterflysnme7244 жыл бұрын
I'm thankful for you guys for keeping us updated!
@RosieG1986 Жыл бұрын
This absolutely sickens me. I watched the documentary on Netflix last night, and I've never been so angry and wanted to smash someones face in as much as I want to do so to that despicable excuse of a mother. Her poor husband Charles. I'm so glad he changed his insurance policy. I hope they both get the death penalty. Rest in Peace Charles, Tylee, JJ and Tammy
@TommyGunz4 жыл бұрын
Why the hell would she say that???😂😂 "Most murderers don't know how long it takes to actually burn a body, so they just give up." So let's just go ahead and let the world know it takes 16 hours with a constant fuel source. Just handing out info that could possibly lead to a killer never getting caught cuz he just learned how to fully get rid of a victims body... Like wtf?!?!!?
@mar_isax17584 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@paulawhitaker63224 жыл бұрын
Thomas Mack I totally agree with that let's just give all these scumbags and serial killers out here more info just stump the investigators a little while longer so families don't get closure. SMH
@christinekrebs24204 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about something the other day. It seems like maybe Tylee was eliminated first because perhaps she was JJ's protector. The idea that this happened before Tami died is so disturbing. And for the brother to die (who might have been the person who committed the murders) is too much of a coincidence. The word DIABOLICAL keeps haunting me when I think of this story line. Especially since the wedding rings were purchased prior to Tami Daybell's death. Also, wondering about malachite poisoning, since that was the stone of the wedding rings and also since it's a poison sometimes used for murder. (found in aquatic store for fish)... just some thoughts. Thank you for the video posting.
@PineBaskets4 жыл бұрын
Thank you reporting team, you are all great. Sad story, you are being pro and sensative and informative. Thanks
@savannahhargis4 жыл бұрын
This whole case is messed up & chads daughter is messed up too moving in that house the next day.
@sandrahilton91224 жыл бұрын
The son narrated Chad's books for audio. They were probably raised following his beliefs.
@theoretic78564 жыл бұрын
the lady in the top right corner needs to learn some tact.. when talking about human remains that are the victim of a violent crime describing the remains as "the whole half burned lot" just seems insensitive to the victim .. perhaps something more respectful like the "the remains unable to complete such atrocious acts" I don't know but whole half burned lot seems so wrong.. maybe I am being unreasonable I don't know these type of crimes bring out an unreasonable reaction from me
@nowinterflight66484 жыл бұрын
She's a prosecuting attorney, she is supposed to shock you with what they find, to remind how awful this crime was. Her tactic did just that, with your reaction.
@SteviRee4 жыл бұрын
I wonder how they’re going to have any chance at defense without putting them on the stand, which seems like a massive liability. I sure would hate to be one of those defense attorneys.
@rosesweetcharlotte4 жыл бұрын
I really think they thought that the bodies would burn faster
@gsmith60264 жыл бұрын
Lori’s lawyer is about as useful as a screen door in a submarine. His specialty is personal injury and bankruptcy.
@diazrigau4 жыл бұрын
Alex, Chad, Lori, each of them did their part. Then they Killed Tammy.Pure evil.
@trixximoon34984 жыл бұрын
This case has gotta be a slam dunk! I assume by the silence of the investigation is that they know what they are looking for and what evidence they need have to convict! I have confidence that this division of law enforcement will do what they can to make sure that they have a solid case before going to trial.
@deborahfromdcspetersoncity92134 жыл бұрын
It makes me so sad and sick to my stomach each time I hear how Tylee and J.J. died and were basically thrown away like trash into her new husband Chad Daybell backyard.
@mmt40134 жыл бұрын
Watching their faces now while they were in Hawaii, knowing what we know now, how smug they look. Totally unaffected by what they knew to be true; that while reporter's were asking for thee whereabouts of the children, they knew they were dead and buried on Chad's property. They weren't grieving at all. They were enjoying a honeymoon, for goodness sakes.
@lucyrickard91824 жыл бұрын
This is unbelievable!! The grandparents would have been thrilled to have these children. Sick, sick people. This is extremely sad. How heartbreaking. I hope Chad Daybell never walks free again. He is very dangerous with his mind games.
@susanasalinas87974 жыл бұрын
They need to fingerprint the bricks and boards where they found jj
@KMP44444 жыл бұрын
I'm sure they did. Forensics will look at EVERYTHING!! My bf died in 2003 by homicide the leave nothing if they are a good forensic team and most are. Even though his case is still unsolved today I'm so thankful for all their hard work.
@rogerbrown88664 жыл бұрын
As an fingerprint expert it is extremely difficult to remove prints from brinks and boards, especially rough lumber.
@dominickjvlogs4 жыл бұрын
Little Miss Noble sorry for your loss!
@reazon2bangie4 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't the weather have had an effect?
@YAYA-bv7po4 жыл бұрын
@@rogerbrown8866 but the plastic wrap and tape should have plenty of evidence
@ShellRenee4 жыл бұрын
Imagining the horror AND relief that authorities must have felt when finding those poor babies. Thank you for the insanely hard job you do and for finding these poor babies.
@brittbrat93284 жыл бұрын
How you gon' bury people on your own damn property! 🤦♀️
@anonamasnoname90984 жыл бұрын
Why not, look how long it took them to look!!!!
@susanpederson1954 жыл бұрын
Did they find Tylee's head?? And what condition is it in?
@zachsimpson20084 жыл бұрын
Her head was missing?????
@pinecone11134 жыл бұрын
Was she decapitated? God this just keeps getting worse.
@bridgetteague77924 жыл бұрын
First I've heard of this
@KaylaMarie_4 жыл бұрын
@@bridgetteague7792 she was dismembered. Some of her flesh and bones were burned, some not.
@NJG05164 жыл бұрын
One of the KZbinrs that read from an Court Affidavit stated the police opened up a black bag and could see the crown of a head with ash brown hair, they believed it to be Tylee's. =(
@briester5104 жыл бұрын
Sad.
@shaynaletter55894 жыл бұрын
The grandparents, Kay and Larry are the most relatable people I've ever seen following 'True Crime' stories. I feel their pain, and I would persist until I found my children, too. Grateful that they have peace of mind, knowing; and that the murderers are in jail, exposed as the sociopaths and frauds that they are.
@hannahlong562 Жыл бұрын
I’m curious to know what Laurie’s mother and sister would have to say about Tylee and JJ’s remains being found. They are both entirely brainwashed by Laurie in my opinion.
@zeldakoons36864 жыл бұрын
That's people are monsters, How do these people live with themselves!
@rOnda883 жыл бұрын
So heartsick. Thanks Court TV for all the info & weigh-ins! Also, for future reference, Chad Daybell was never JJ & Tylee’s stepfather. He, AC, & LV murdered them even before LV ordered the “white” dress (really?), CD’s white shorts set, & the green malachite ring with her dead husband’s credit card. Great investigative work, Kay Woodcock!
@SouthernDiscomfort2564 жыл бұрын
It’s really feeling like y’all are exploiting these kids deaths for money. You post the SAME information five times a day with a click bait title. The reality is that there’s NO ADDITIONAL INFORMATION aside from the PC affidavit besides this nonsense.
@Rebecca-hc5ju4 жыл бұрын
Yes!! And they laugh and giggle too much!! I shouldn't have come back *but* I thought there was new information. 🙄
@rachaelsays31844 жыл бұрын
He didn’t say tree limbs. He said ‘limb debris’ limb debris! Says it all 😢
@mayradelarosa61614 жыл бұрын
If they were able to ping Alex (the brother) why not check check Lorie's and Chad's phone's as well?
@YAYA-bv7po4 жыл бұрын
she had several burner phones..probably in the process of doing that now
@mayradelarosa61614 жыл бұрын
@@YAYA-bv7po Did not know that about Lorie was Chad doing the same thing?
@wesleyhay38814 жыл бұрын
I've been following this for awhile now. I don't think I have ever heard of anything so terrible and strange in real life. It is like something out of one of those more modern British crime dramas!
@barbaradomingues92004 жыл бұрын
Just a thought: Was Alex Cox REALLY THERE, or DID SOMEONE JUST HAVE HIS PHONE THERE??????
@carmelitalacandalo76454 жыл бұрын
How can a parent let this happen to their children?...
@valkyrie89534 жыл бұрын
Was JJ the biological son of Lori? I recall something about adoption.
@Rebecca-hc5ju4 жыл бұрын
No, his Mom is a relative of Charles. I haven't heard anything from her yet, I'm sure she knows.
@rosesweetcharlotte4 жыл бұрын
@@Rebecca-hc5ju That poor woman
@letsdanceimladyblue4 жыл бұрын
JJ is Charles nephew. JJ is the son to Charles brother, they gave him up for adoption to Lori and Charles. Both of JJ’s biological parents posted pictures and shared some words on FB 😞💔
@kidscats39524 жыл бұрын
@@letsdanceimladyblue Not quite but close, he is the son of one of Kay Woodcock's children. She is J.J.'s grandma and Charles's sister. That made Charles the GREAT uncle. J.J was born to drug addicted mom and dad.
@wendydriggs15394 жыл бұрын
JJ was the nephew of Charles Vallow. He and Lori adopted him.
@securityservices8903 жыл бұрын
That’s why you leave your ph fully charged with data on 100’s of miles away while you bury someone
@LifesPeachy3214 жыл бұрын
I'm betting Lori and Alex were anticipating the search for the children and that's why they went to the Grand Canyon...so if it came to searching for the children they would look there (endless pit of possibilities to rid yourself of someone) and not at Chad's house. Probably why they took pictures of the kids there, to lead the detectives in that direction. I never thought about it before, but I'm guessing that's what that was all about. No children, no crime, right?
@angelxtasy4 жыл бұрын
This is just sad. Those poor kids, had so much life to live.
@elizabethtews16334 жыл бұрын
It just makes me sick knowing how those children died😢
@KellyanneKashaS4 жыл бұрын
Seeing these kids pics breaks your heart knowing whats happened & JJs smile especially kills me omg poor kids Rest in peace
@SistahSledge4 жыл бұрын
😭😭😭😭r.i.p. babies
@LifeWithKasey4 жыл бұрын
This is so disturbing. I feel for the grandparents and their friends. 😭💜