Who knows where the time goes? - The Grayzone live

Max Blumenthal and Aaron Mate discuss the worsening fallout from Joe Biden's debate disaster, UK election results, the announcement of massive Israeli land thefts, and more.

[@geraldtraynor]

Starmer's apparent banality and crass stupidity should not lead to underestimating the level of pure evil he represents. He remains dangerous.

[@DrRobinus]

Max Blumenthal is a shining light in a dark void. Pure genius. A font of world knowledge. Among other things, as an American, his grip of the recent goings on in British politics is astounding.

[@enzahmltn121]

I felt so down after UK general election but the GZ gives me hope and ur work is fighting to speak the truth, thank you!

[@AtheistEve]

The Green Party won all four of their target seats.

[@ericcraw]

Appreciate how the GZ team traces everything back and exposes the absurdity of it all.✌️Eric

[@Ash-gj8hd]

MAX and AARON are the most courageous people who are loved by millions around the world and will go down in history as a resistance against the zionist state of Israel and a voice for the voiceless children of GAZA who are being massacred with their families in this deliberate GENOCIDE,

[@honestyfirst3994]

Very well said!

[@phelanmarkj]

pretending the usa isn't ordering the temporary zionist colony to do everything it is doing or has ever done is ridiculous..

[@phelanmarkj]

comparing or equating the zionist entity with china is grotesque..

[@missktofdk]

Agree ❤

[@kanonierable]

Palestinian dead in Gaza now over 186'000 according to the British Medical Journal "The Lancet".

[@peterhixon371]

It is good to hear the dejection and pathos in the words of these educated and principled young men. Without gentle men such as these, there is little hope for anything other than fascism in our world today and war in our world tomorrow. Fight the good fight Aaron and Max, you are a light in the darkness of political chicanery

[@VickiNikolaidis]

And also, Kit. Very courageous, bright young men

[@jeffhicks8428]

Kit is an excellent addition to the Grayzone. Really enjoying his Active Measures show. Excellent work. Max is one of the very few Americans respected and adored around the world for his courageous work and a legitimate luminary. His books are always cutting edge and way ahead of the curve. Up the Grayzone.

[@susmith7837]

Kit supplied the intelligence on the MI6 attack on the Kerch Bridge. Had a proposal they'd circulated published even before Feb 22.

[@Helmy67]

And Aaron as well 👍

[@manbearpig7521]

Is Kit on a show called Active Measures. Must tune in.

[@FindingHolm]

@@manbearpig7521agreed! It’s a great show! 🎉

[@FindingHolm]

Active Measures is a great show & always breakdown their shows to segments of around 10-15mins which is very much appreciated 🎉

Gray zone is keeping me sane

[@manbearpig7521]

Same

[@johnjaybonstingl9007]

Same here.

[@kathleankeesler1639]

Me too Woodstock generation Granny

[@manbearpig7521]

@@kathleankeesler1639 Scottish working class feminist Marxist mum here

[@dimirockeropoulos6104]

So refreshing to hear from real journalists.

[@katepetersen1283]

Listening to you restores my sanity. Literally. Thank you for all your work, know that it is incredibly appreciated.

[@jackfruitearth702]

Grayzone - you don't have to apologize. (You tell the truth, and we appreciate that.)

[@Concerned63Citizen]

I'm so upset about George Galloway losing. The "Lobby" must have really been busy.....$$$$

[@Joann8225]

Me too 😭💔

[@andrewteasdale8999]

Galloway is a force for certain.

[@promark5317]

That whole UK election was disheartening across the board. I know it's a US vassal, so it really doesn't matter much but it still sucks. There is no real left with any meaningful influence anymore.

[@jjutt87]

What - how? Didn't he just get in there?

[@Human-le9nt]

He got no media coverage while Reform and Fart-arse was all the time on. Also, the Communist Party, Plaid Cymry and Sinn Fein were not on radar at all. Nor did any of the independents, left, right or centre. Protests against the on-going genocide was framed as Gaza and Muslim voter issue, not a universal human rights and war criminal issue. Meanwhile, the UK managed to delay ICJ arrest warrants. Disgraceful.

[@thetubeschannel]

You guys are the Real News source that on over the air channel would never dare provide. A wealth of information every time. Thank you !

[@staticcouch135]

He will forever be remembered as Kid Starver PM of Failing Britain.

[@manbearpig7521]

I know. Couldn't even be arsed lifting the two child tax credits limits.

[@vgstb]

Kier Starmer likes to state that his dad was a tool maker, when in fact his dad was the owner of the tool maker factory.

[@Wraithing]

Now Kier's become 'King of the Tools!' 😂😂😫😢😢😵‍💫🤢

[@D_B_Cooper]

He did create Keir who is a massive tool

[@marypagac305]

@@D_B_Cooper🤣🤣Good one 👍🏼

[@chrisreeves9764]

I'm English in the UK and knew about Starmer and Saville but had no idea about him and MI5 and MI6. This is why I watch the Grayzone. If you could do more on the UK that would be terrific. We need help over the next few years but I sense something is going to happen to change the game and get the US and UK our freedom back. The mask is off, more and more people see what is really happening and the elites are on the back foot. Independent MPS elected in the UK and Reforms 5 MPs is almost impossible with the UK election system so we are going in the right direction.

[@elpirata2685]

I am also in the UK. The number of people voting for Labour has decreased since their landslide defeat of '19. I see little to be positive about with REFUK's electoral gains. Farage and Co are establishment through and through, and in terms of rhetoric are fascist- adjacent. Reform gained 0.8% of the seats with 14% of the vote. Labour got 64% of the seats with 34% of the vote. Much as I despise Reform, their representation in parliament is disproportionately low. Not in the media though. Let's also note that most of the "antisemites" purged from Labour were Jews... If there is any positive it is this: The Tory sandcastle victory of '19 in many ways reflects Labour's sandcastle victory of '24. There is a vacuum for the real left to fill. And this can break the 2 party strangle-hold on power in '28- if we organise now.

[@vgstb]

@@elpirata2685 the landslide defeat of 2019 was in large part due to the sabotaging actions of the Starmer clan.

[@chrisreeves9764]

@@elpirata2685Fascist adjacent. Guffaw

[@elpirata2685]

@@chrisreeves9764 scapegoating of immigrants and Muslims while offering tax cuts to the elite, ultra-nationalism, nostalgia for a mythical golden era when Britain was Great, cult of personality, preoccupation with law and order, rampant misogyny and racism, support for genocide. Fascist-adjacent.

[@Wraithing]

@chrisreeves9764 - Lowkey is good to listen to about Starmer's security service links, also Paul Holden's new book looks like it's going to be rather interesting.

[@numbersix8919]

The Grayzone is the standard for independent journalism. (Journalism in general, these days.)

[@jjutt87]

Bar none!! A lot of indy pundits out there - but very few journalists..

[@Pomegranate_David]

Thank God for Kit Klarenberg. It's great to see him on this stream after so long.

[@SallyValjean]

Great program as usual! Thank you Max, Aaron, and Kit for your work! Very educational. 💚💚💚

[@allyscott1590]

God bless the Grayzone. Love to all of you. Stay strong, clear minded and free. You are vital

[@glengrant3884]

GREAT WORK GUYS!!💥💪 SHINE BRIGHT!!💥🙌💯 AUSTRALIA!!🤍💙❤️👊

[@lmac9718]

Australia = land never ceded ❤️💛🖤

[@theresabarzee1463]

Kit rips the presentations every time! Thx gobs.

[@blue-eyedbluesboy3405]

Thank you @TheGrayzone for putting in the time and effort to keep bringing we viewers the highest quality independent news reporting hands-down. You are tremendously appreciated. Keep up the good fight!

[@yvonnecampbell8832]

Brilliant drop of political analysis, so succiently worded snd brilliantly spoke by Max and Aaron. What a gift. I wish i could give more. Keep on trucking through the muck. You two are truth tellers.

[@PerceivedREALITY999]

Instead of arming Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan; US tax payer money should be spent on infrastructure, healthcare, education, homelessness.....

[@user-viceroy]

I wouldn’t count on any of them getting off the gravy train 💰

[@PerceivedREALITY999]

@@user-viceroy Nothing will change until heads begin to roll.

[@hairlessape5107]

You must spend quite a bit of time doing this, it's appreciated.

[@mimosveta]

perceivedREALITY999 fore POTUS

[@TheHedgehogsDelimma]

Wishing and empty thinking... it isn't going to happen. Heads won't roll, but my eyes sure are.

[@susiegreaves7283]

'If Israel didn't exist, the US would have to invent it'!!!! Biden does not even see the irony of this statement. Like so many politicians, he really is not very clever. But for me, this is an extraordinary quote. Thank you Grayzone, for always informing me with interesting material.

[@matane2465]

The U.S. did invent it.

[@susiegreaves7283]

Yes...I understand that. My point was that Biden clearly did not see it, as he is really not very clever.

[@punapeter]

@@matane2465 no the Brits made it up. Balfore Declaration 1917? U$ came in in 48' after the Nakba and the Zionazid took over. It's a sick co-dependent relationship. "Family Rules Based Order Values" NWO

[@donnrutherford7059]

Yes it has been a work in progress since the late 1800

[@donnavorce8856]

Well actually it was the UK but we're in lockstep since W W2 ​@@matane2465

[@darkrider962]

As always, great content Max and Aaron! You both are two of my heroes of journalism and justice!

[@Kamila10ish]

Max and arron, please continue. we really love your analysis, and you have so much respect everywhere in the world . ❤

[@PerceivedREALITY999]

Thank you Grayzone. Independent journalists with journalistic integrity are the heroes of our time.

[@krischanlive]

Thank you, it is so important to keep repeating the same textfile comments, we appreciate your sacrifice. Dedicating ALL your time to posting platitudes, having no life at all.. you are a hero, thank you for taking real action.

[@punapeter]

@@krischanlive I think it's ChatGPT, in China but lists Aus. These troll accounts are ending YT. Just another George Floyd Day of sobriety counter troll. As demented as all the MAGA Zionist redblue Genocide Joe Don the ConVICT Influencer fans.

[@PerceivedREALITY999]

@@krischanlive Take a hike uloser

[@HMM-h6g]

@@krischanlive don’t be mean.

[@paulmicks7097]

Great discussion gentlemen.

[@chipsnmydip]

Kit was great! Really interesting stuff about Starmer! In a reasonably just world anyone involved in blocking the Saville case would be blacklisted.

[@thewhitelodgery]

Fuckin disgusting :/

[@dfordiligence2398]

Please stop being so gullible. Starmer did not block the Savile case, the CPS did not destroy all records of the Surrey Police investigation into Savile, and Savile has never been proven guilty of any of the allegations.

[@paulbo9033]

Brit here. It wont be worse. Granted it won't be much better either. But other than that he is correct on all counts. Starmer's Labour is truly awful.

[@barryhoward2174]

UK resident here. Great analysis by Kit. All pretty depressing with a few glimmers of hope. Now that Starmer has to actually do something, hopefully the illusions will be shattered. Hopefully!

[@sicpuppie4058]

I ❤the grayzone. Stay safe you guys

[@ibrahimdihum9127]

As always excellent analysis thank you MAX and AARON THANKS THE GRAY ZONE

[@Joann8225]

❤️😎💯👏👏👏 Grayzone Rules ! Great analysis 🎯

[@norryc2379]

Good work Greyzone

[@JoeHock-ds7ym]

I vet all information... Grayzone is one network that I do not have to. Integrity is everything. Thank you.

[@blue-eyedbluesboy3405]

💯

[@jumboshrimp5193]

Glad you guys r back. Zios throttling u bigtime.

[@miskakerdez3750]

Max and Aaron, brilliant as always. Love your non partisan approach; deconstructing “the blob”, the way power works and the banality of evil that keeps the war machine humming. Thank you!

[@rbd11011]

❤AND RESPECT ❤

[@hazelwray4184]

'and'? - also; as well as?

[@jaybee557]

Great discussion with Kit Klarenberg - appreciate him airing Starmer’s filthy back story.

[@yachuj]

Awesome! Thank you. PEACE OUT! 🙏🏽✌🏽

[@gghstlr]

😱 Thanks for sharing. No one can feign ignorance.

[@TheBlynch]

Keepin' the flame of journalism LIT!

[@joey_gallant]

Great to see and hear Kit. Brilliant investigative mind.

[@AggieL48]

Thanks guys. Great analyses. ❤

[@aquapendulum]

A correction for Max: Kamala did crack down on truancy but the penalty from her office was for the parents rather than the kids who skipped school. But yes, her truancy crackdown ended up affecting black parents the most.

[@RobotClean138-lx1bo]

@aquapendulum I'm still a bit of a libertarian, and question compulsory education. With that said, did penalizing parents for truancy get more kids to stay in school?

[@aquapendulum]

@@RobotClean138-lx1bo Nope! Simply because the reasons kids skip school are not under the parents' control most of the time.

[@MrB1923]

Keir Stammer is a charisma vacuum.

[@manbearpig7521]

Block of wood man

[@liveontheverandah]

Who cares about charisma? I’m more worried about his policies - just another neoliberal status quo

[@RethinkIslam-qd7we]

Wonderful work as always. Love and look forward to your episodes each week.

[@peterandjoycevanbreemen600]

Thank you Max and Aaron!

[@Lo-MingLum]

Great show. Sorry I missed Kit in first half of show. Had been traveling and awake for 36-40 hours. I've been diligently checking hourly for GZ live but just as I went out, that's when the show started. I also meant to only close my eyes for 5 minutes and it turned out to be 45 minutes for the Judge. My schedule will be better next week.💐💐💐

[@thewhitelodgery]

Worth a rewatch though! Kit rules!

[@manbearpig7521]

Kit was great!

[@jjutt87]

No stress zone - there's always time for the GZ!!

[@anastar37]

I'm shocked to see Kamala speak so long without cracking up!

[@jjutt87]

😅😂🤣😂😅

[@lmac9718]

Que Mala 🤮

[@FreebornLivingWoman]

A most informative and brilliant discussion as always Max. Thank you, with immense respect and gratitude from New Zealand 🙏❤️🙏

[@electricstreetpoet]

Hi Max, just tuned in

[@paulmicks7097]

It's like US , democracy is a pick between Left or Right fascism, either choice takes you to the same place.

[@jjutt87]

But there is no left, it's corporate-center, corporate-right, and fascist all over imo

[@Concerned63Citizen]

@@jjutt87Bingo.

[@ileanahernandez1709]

Learn to vote third party vote for the Green 💚 Party and Dr Jill Stein for President

[@luv2fly745]

I share your opinion and couldn't agree more with your assessment.​@@jjutt87

[@paulmicks7097]

Yes they should learn, but they don't .. " I LIKE JILL " and her running mate Jack Shid

[@AggieL48]

Max, the term “Press” hardly describes the current corporate media we suffer from.

[@tjallingdalheuvel126]

Press to play the handed script.

[@jjutt87]

"Press" of the boot on our neck!

[@thanareda2351]

Thank you for your independent journalism❤.

[@mldb13]

"Keir Starmer's dad was a carpenter, like Jesus before him." 😂😂😂 What a fantastic, thorough, analysis of UK elections and political moment. Kit Klarenberg's knowledge and clarity at describing the facts are simply outstanding. As usual, the highest quality of information on the Grayzone👏🏽👏👏🏼

[@kittysawtelle5552]

Love this team!

[@stephaniecarrow4898]

Thank you, Max, Aaron and Kit for always illuminating analysis.

[@liz-iy6zm]

love you guys. thanks for all this great info.

[@tarakadir9259]

Thank you 🙏🏻 ❤ 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🍉🍉🍉

[@aptorres01]

Great work guys thank you

[@Vororterocker]

Thank you for the work The Grayzone.

[@frankgrace1537]

“Who knows where the time goes”. A great song by Sandy Denny and Fairport Convention. “The world is run by very different personages from the ones the public sees” (Paraphrased Disraeli quote).

[@elisabettaaugelli8286]

Max ❤thank you!

[@susanmercurio1060]

I have no faith in Starmer and the Labour Party

[@lilith3953]

I have complete faith that they are going to carry on doing exactly what the Tory's were doing, except that they are going to be extra terrible on the whole protecting-women's-rights-from-transgender-madness issue. Apart from that, two cheeks of the same deepstate a**, an a** that is going to keep on shitting all over the British people.

[@mark_2]

The right is blatantly representing the plutocracy but most people are unaware of the fact that the anti communist left has been a tool of intel organizations across the entire west since ww2.

[@tobia5267]

I have the opposite of faith in him. I am worried nothing will change

[@unbearifiedbear1885]

The guy who said he wants to give *non citizens* the vote? The guy who said he's a staunch zionist? The Mi6 guy? Yeah.. me either

[@unbearifiedbear1885]

​​@@tobia5267 Well, fear not - things are going to get much much worse 😅👍🏻

[@enzahmltn121]

You can’t really see the gun at her back .. 😂 so funny Max but so scary at the same time 😧

[@maryamsukaynah559]

Thank you guys for all the real information❤

[@nadiawheeler4772]

Thank you

[@hayatraja7360]

Great show , thanks. 🇵🇸

[@feryag]

Thank you for an excellent segment.

[@pearlOwisdom532]

Dont understand how Galloway loses his seat afer winning less than 2mths b4??

[@staticcouch135]

The lobby 🤮

[@Concerned63Citizen]

@@staticcouch135Same "Lobby" who has unlimited $$$ and got rid of Jamal Bowman in New York. I despise them.

[@blue-eyedbluesboy3405]

It was literally impossible to happen without a large degree of election meddling. Rochdale is a Muslim riding. What Muslim in their right mind would vote Labour?!

[@R12390]

Thanks 🙏🏻 🇨🇦

[@DavidGreenwood-nu6dd]

You two,and the two Alex's on Duran are the real journalists,and my heroes!

[@ourbleakhouse]

The UK as per usual presents a mirror to the US, & vice-versa.

[@revn9203]

If there is no public enthusiasm for Labour, then how did they win? It is so confusing.

[@michelegosse7116]

34% of 60% is 20% of the electorate! First get the seat. Best with 2 parties, the libs kind of keep their own places. Starmer purged the candidates at the last minute, no way to campaign against the propelled, specially when the voters do not know, just vote Labour. People voted against tories, left a vacant place for The Other.

[@rezrunnercl]

It's their system. They won a landslide with like 30+ %?

[@mark_2]

Only if you believe they're not manipulating public opinion and elections domestically just as they do in coups, color revolutions and subversion abroad.

[@tjallingdalheuvel126]

Because the public swallows it.

[@manbearpig7521]

Because Tories switched to reform, Muslims to workers party and independence and SNP vote collapsed. Basically Scotland is propping them up.and we will be offered crumbs

[@thinkbeforeyoutype7106]

Great reporting as always guys

[@Disinformation_Hoax]

Let Biden be Biden 🙏😇 More public appearances, debates and interviews. Please, please.

[@mpemberton7760]

@Disinformation_Hoax This is probably an apocryphal anecdote, but Obama supposedly told a Democratic colleague, "Don't underestimate Joe Biden's ability to f**k things up." Even if he didn't actually say that, it's funny...because it's true.

[@getgal1]

Excellent analysis.

[@Joann8225]

GG's name for Kamala - Laughing Gas Harris 😂🤣😂🤣

[@hairlessape5107]

Thanks from Aaron's home province

[@billreetz]

❤ from occupied usa. Thank you for helping us to better grasp the utter, depravity and uselessness of the so called democratic process in the UK. I feel sorry for the people of Britain as well as the rest of humanity. 🍉 Free Palestine and long live Yemen! 22:14

[@duncanmckeown1292]

Thanks!...must see analysis as usual!

[@enzahmltn121]

Thanks

[@cristinaordeig7]

For us this have been and incredible profound information worth a fortune….HUGE THANKS TO ALL OF YOU…..❣️❣️❣️

[@yvonnecampbell8832]

Thanks!

[@joelsmith3873]

Good work Max. We’ve had a very similar political trajectory.

[@Jomarina11]

Love Kit’s analysis.

[@bradcaulkins7690]

Thank you, gents! The news always disappoints, but these streams never do!

[@HardRockMiner]

Time? Biden still can't figure out where the sun goes.

[@staticcouch135]

😂

[@adrianariaratnam5817]

An excerpt : Our society does not have an antisemitism crisis. It doesn’t have a crisis of far left radicalism, Islamist extremism, support for terrorism, or fomenting of dissent by foreign powers. Our society has a moral crisis. A cruelty crisis. An imperialism crisis. A militarism crisis. A propaganda crisis. An insincerity crisis. A stupidity crisis. An obedience crisis Empire managers and imperial spinmeisters try to pretend there’s some horrifying existential emergency involving hatred of Jews or love of Hamas or some other ridiculous nonsense in our society, because the empire too is in a state of crisis. People are waking up from its lullaby of propaganda and are rejecting its narrative manipulation like never before, which is why instead of relenting and accepting the empire’s destruction of Gaza, opposition to it is only growing stronger. So the authorized custodians of imperial narratives flail around desperately trying to regain some control by spinning all the civil disobedience we are seeing in a way that makes it seem like some sort of problem which needs to be fixed. But as Howard Zinn said, “Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience.” ______ The problem isn’t that people are becoming too disobedient, the problem is that people remain too obedient. The problem isn’t that people are becoming too radicalized against their government, the problem is that people aren’t radicalized enough. The problem is that the freaks who rule over us are not sufficiently afraid of us. The problem is that we have not yet come to the collective realization that there are a whole lot more of us than there are of them, and that we don’t actually need to put up with them doing crazy and evil things right in front of our faces. Instead people sit around drooling with their eyes fixed on screens full of endless diversion while children are ripped to shreds by western-supplied military explosives for no other reason than because they happen to belong to the wrong ethnic group. That is the real crisis of our society. Not an imaginary antisemitism epidemic. Not college kids disobeying authority figures. Not leftists. Not anarchists. Not Islam. Not Hamas. The real crisis in our society is that too many people are still blindly obedient to a murderous and tyrannical empire which should be hacked to pieces and scattered to the winds. www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/the-problem-isnt-civil-disobedience?

[@llkoolbean4935]

Beautifully stated. I agree completely.

[@Nine-Signs]

A cruelty crisis. An imperialism crisis. A militarism crisis. A propaganda crisis. An insincerity crisis. A stupidity crisis. An obedience crisis ... .... The resultant symptoms that arise from the rewards and incentives of capitalism... over time.

[@billreetz]

❤ from occupied usa. Thank you so much! 37:01

[@adrianariaratnam5817]

@billreetz You're most welcome. Please pass it along...........we're surrounded by multitudes of brainless sheep! Thank you.

[@CatPDX]

Thank you all so much!

[@Joann8225]

Trumps bizarre weak Palestinian insult to Biden -- CNN et al. *crickets* thanks for discussion about this, Max. And so true, it's The Obama Machine !! 🤢🤮

[@ileanahernandez1709]

People forget Obama was behind the takedown of Bernie Sanders and installing if his ex vice president. Bernie Sanders was definitely winning and Biden wasn't even campaigning at all except every once in a while he would show up from his basement.

[@rodiculous9464]

Thank you greyzone max and aaron

[@DavidGreenwood-nu6dd]

Could listen you guys all night!Dave,from West Yorkshire,UK.

[@tyebo2010]

I would have liked Kit to have mentioned the rise of the Reform party in the UK, which effectively split the Conservative vote contributing to their steep demise.

[@liveontheverandah]

A lot of Labour voters probably went Reform too- the Islamophobia in the UK is being whipped up and has been for a long time.

[@AggieL48]

Kit rules!❤

[@Ralphjons]

Invaluable insights and analysis. Always worth listening to these guys at Grayzone.