Who Needs FRONT GRIP? It’s a MYTH

[@TheCommentedOne]

When he said the tires from 2001 are older than most whom are watching... I actually laughed out loud

[@sacrificialrubber779]

Made me feel old...🤣🤣🤷🏻‍♂️

[@OriginLabR32]

I laughed as the single tear fell from my apparently old eyes

[@TheCommentedOne]

@@OriginLabR32 😂😂

[@TheCommentedOne]

@@sacrificialrubber779 its part of life lol est. '88

[@lordperezident]

1992 here yeaaaheard

[@markpetrosky3128]

This brings a whole new meaning to “drift spares” lol

[@gremotorsports]

@@gerardochase403 tf 😑 gtf outta here

[@Slide_master_Drifter]

Absolutely, absolutely bro!

[@gx5729]

I think the strat is bring two spares so when u finish ur rears drifting rotate the front to back and put the spares on the front lolll

[@SAMMIT]

This is totally one of those “just because you can doesn’t mean you should” moments 🤣🤣🤣

[@BOOT]

It's just a cool extreme example to prove a point

[@masterman530]

I wonder if it’s possible to get usable angle out of the clearance increase with the smaller wheels

[@BOOT]

@@masterman530 I think it's possible, actually wanted to try it on my project truck BUCK someday, maybe compare a 20" rim to a 15" with a low pro

[@decimalauthor]

I bet Sammit is familiar with those moments being an Aussie. Lmao

[@rainedrop14]

"i believe in you, but i also believe im gunna go check out this e36" how to know you found the right one

[@alecfleming373]

Untill, we catch onto the fact she's just hunting... Na, hope not, I'm just being toxic XD

[@starfox_wr-45e93]

Also, when Chelsea said "They may not work slowing down for the big huck..." and she's still in the car for the next shot.. I said wow out loud.

[@FastPaull]

Need to start a new series now called drifting myths

[@maurolemus57]

Impressive how much I overthink my setup! Lol

[@KameTrick]

I remember seeing a Japanese team do this as a joke in Drift Tengoku mag back in ~2007, they had similar results. A lot like drifting without ebrake, as long as the driver times inputs and transitions appropriately without going way too slow or fast, it’s absolutely doable 👌🏻 Very fun to watch 😂

[@thekookie8083]

Love your vids kame! I might have to sub this dude too

[@KameTrick]

@@thekookie8083 I recommend it, Chelsea is a great guy and fully committed to drifting, going from grassroots to pro 👍🏻

[@SlightlyM3ntal]

I like how even your girl knows to go STRAIGHT to the DOT. Those things are ANCIENT.

[@g.j.2857]

A year or so more and I think there would be no DOT as we know it 😁

[@zydomason]

I'd love a comparison with a tires more grippy than the rear ones

[@roysteen16]

Now your gunna start a new trend everyone's gunna be running skinnys up front to get even more angle!! It's a drift and drag package in one lol 😆

[@cmamsler]

When the god talks about drifting. I listen

[@lordperezident]

God of drifting E36s then yes, most definitely lol

[@tommygunnz7154]

Agreed

[@cmamsler]

@@lordperezident I mean he just got 2nd place in a mustang. Lol. Also he is always 3 wheeling it anyways so of course he knew he didn’t need front bite lol 😂

[@Philsilva06]

LMFAO this is so funny to watch you rip with those tires.... i guess wheel clearance in the front with high angle isn't a thing anymore.

[@mikebutrie5147]

This made me feel like it is 1996 again watching Saturday morning cartoons 😂

[@EGHeartattack]

These are the types of videos I love! I learn something new from you every video! Keep up with the great content Chelsea!

[@TurbineResearch]

I love the sounds of that motor. It's amazing 😄

[@martin1649]

it's wild

[@rivboi]

12:29 Lol

[@diybuildsandrepairs]

Dude could drift with snow skies on the front of that car

[@fearlessdrift6110]

i like these videos where you tell 3/4 of the drifters of the world they have no clue what theyre doing. man has no chill. keep posting this stuff

[@1byte4]

Lets call it "Going Crispy" because they are donuts.

[@slideordie95]

I feel like he's the Best driver in FD I think no one can beat him besides himself mentally cause driving wise he's the best one in my opinion. I love how he's on throttle 90-95% of the whole track

[@claytization]

Great experiment! People always jamming down your throat about sticky front tires and how front grip is such a game changer. I've gone from using scrubs to overkill grip in the front, and I feel like it just hides driver mistakes and creates bad driving habits. Obviously at a pro level and tandem driving you want a proper setup but for beginners its excessive imo

[@texaneric9491]

No you don't need big grippy front tires to drift well. But having all the suspension, arms, bushings, etc to correct the geometry, sure helps.

[@sigma0987]

7:07 The smile on her face says it all!! that backie is sickkk thooo

[@ashetonthedude]

i knew this is what you were doing when you posted on your story lol. id been wanting to do this since seeing the old japanese challenges of it

[@burntnugget1854]

Im blown away by your drifting you drive with such confidence dude...i really love this video thanks❤❤

[@385949862]

Impressive. I feel like a major component of making those skinnies work is being really comitted on the angle / being able to keep the rear end from hooking up mid drift.

[@chelseadenofa]

That’s how all my cars are anyways

[@dylanducker5528]

I've always believed this as well but good to see it proven, only time I can imagine you want front grip is for a snappier flick.

[@JDR1971]

Those RIMZ look heinous! LOL! Edit: That steering wheel is classy though! And I'll be 50 this year so some old farts do watch your vijeos. ;)

[@billyb7561]

videos* You're too old for spelling mistakes, and you even edited this once already.......

[@rickloss6133]

@@billyb7561 it’s a fucking KZbin comment bro grow tf up

[@TheCynicalJedi]

​@@billyb7561 It's only a spelling mistake if you don't know who AVE is, pipe down before you embarrass yourself some more

[@joeyg29jgjg]

@@TheCynicalJedi glad you got to him first lmao

[@motoray69]

Now throw em on all 4 corners! lol

[@TrashPandaPirate]

When you said 2001, I was thinking “oh well this video probably came out a few years back, so I’m older than those,” but nope 2 years younger in fact

[@joshthebavarian]

Dope concept but Id love to see this tested on a car with stock angle! I wonder if having more front grip helps at all in that context

[@8FABDrifting]

In theory it should make it easier with the spares as this will help the front slide more and would stop it from overrotating too much

[@norphes3865]

Slap those on the mustang. That would be a flex

[@stephenfitzsimmons1752]

Fr imagine chels doing a fd season with those wheels in the front

[@NORMANBARR]

I'm on it !!!

[@RileyLH]

Front grip at my local track is pretty important if you are taking an outside line. It's a fast straight that you Manji then it goes to a long sweeping corner to a hairpin. If you have too high of a front tire pressure when you take the outside line (cough cough the cool line) your car wants to keep going forward with all its speed and you start going wider and wider until you hit the marbles and lose all rear grip.

[@chelseadenofa]

You could just add angle and have the car drive down instead

[@SuperSlowCamaro1]

Im really interested if a motorcycle tire would step this setup up even more.

[@acherontiaatropos1]

My tire??

[@magicstew45]

If you could drastically adjust camber while driving then probably.

[@jasonbirch1182]

That may work pretty good actually. Especially if you have a lot of camber loss at high angle.

[@MarcAntoine1]

Dude's loving pizza so much he puts frickn' pizza cutters as front wheels 😂😂 keep it up 👌👌👌. It seriously looks like a good way to learn how to perfect your entry, I love it!

[@KiLO_602]

Seeing how hard you huck that bmw into that first turn gets me hyped!

[@drifts145]

I originally started in time attack, when i started drifting my thought proccess was “drifting is oversteer, gotta set the car up to be really grippy up front and slidy in the rear” and it was but it was really hard to be consistent drifting, this video along with your other ones have made me completely rethink my setup.

[@chelseadenofa]

Tell your road race friends that! 😂😂😂

[@RvolvoR]

I wonder how much less the skinny tires beat up the power steering system as well.

[@bigdfitness5020]

Or how much more strain does it put?

[@aldenhauser9555]

@@bigdfitness5020 how would it be more?

[@alexmanitiu21]

Next video: Who needs FRONT WHEELS? it’s a MYTH!

[@CornellW003]

Option mag did something like this like 20 years ago but they did it in the rain. Either way this is awesome 👌 . It's gonna make tons of people rethink their setups. Keep the myth busting coming.

[@chelseadenofa]

Did they have a 255 Nitto at 15psi in the rear? 😂😂😂

[@CornellW003]

Hell no. I wish I could find the article . It was back when I lived in Okinawa. It thought it was funny at thr time.

[@Throwmearound]

This proves what ive been saying for years as well, you need front grip for big flick entrys a bit, and after that its just pointing the car in the rough direction it should go and the rear does all the steering. Sticky fronts are just very helpful in covering bad front suspension setups (and im guilty of that)

[@chelseadenofa]

Honestly I think if you have bad suspension you’d want less front grip, that way it smooths out your efforts

[@louwrenssmal]

Respect, I have always admired your pure driving skill but you took it to a next level today. That been said stick them on the back and it would be like driving on ice.

[@shaneanning180sx]

I remember years ago i was at a mates tyre shop rolling my car out and a older dude said to me u know u are wasteing your money with semis on the front u dont need grip on the front when drifting and he said it makes it easyer me.been young and thinking i knew everything said yeah shat ever 4 years later was sick of spending lots on front tyres always fucking the inside so started running the same tyres as i do on the rear and wow car was easyer to hold angles and didnt even notice and pushing very good point dude u my friend are one of the best

[@IH4788]

As a BMW guy I’m in love with the fact that you drift an E36 compact

[@Ben-hf7fg]

In australia e36 is the go to drift car now s bodies are 30k$+

[@SuperCuteWombat]

when chelsea wakes up and wants to save the world!

[@oldguyracing1177]

No ...just money✌

[@garrettslobey9204]

I like the whisper...."foreshadowing "

[@BTKeck]

Great experiment! It's always worth to try new things and learn with them. I recall a entire group of guys at Ebisu do something similar around 2007 with Donuts.

[@cluelessdak7224]

So many people need to see this! I've tried to tell people but some people just wont listen lol

[@Tahio76]

It goes so smooth.... it's awesome to watch

[@driftjunk]

I used to beat guys with stock road tyres on the front of my car, I always thought they were wasting their money putting semi slicks on front.

[@boblee6173]

Chelsea makes drifting look way more fun than usual

[@jimsh]

this is so sick - loved it more drift myths please haha

[@tofu7397]

lmao as someone who's style eats up front tires, I'd enjoy this

[@justinelliott293]

The side view of those backwards entries looked fucking insane, you were hauling balls! It’s also cool to see your wife out there with you

[@driftking9283]

Now I finally have something I can send my friends that claim they need more front grip when they push

[@moedog5087]

I got excited. I figured youd run them in the rear too

[@dudemynameisdebo]

I've always thought that having skinnies up front would majorly help a rear bias car from being so snappy. I really think there's something to this almost like sand rail physics but not rear engine like mid engine and rear bias transaxle cars.

[@DoubtElement]

I definitely messed up when I started. I went straight for RSRR fronts & didn't know what I was doing wrong

[@nickburgundy9766]

"I was backin it in" and"this might be a thing" should be memes😂

[@brandonpanozzo86]

After a couple laps you were really hitting your line. super sick driving

[@dan_the_drifter321]

I found a similar but no way as severe situation when I tried a set of 235 40 18's on a 8.5J on the front of my old s14 and spun out a few times (bear in mind I have been drifting quite a long time), back on the 225 45 17's on a 9J or even 205 50 17's on my 8J's and everything was back to normal, it could have been that I couldn't adjust to it (or the wheel width and size changed my suspension set up, or maybe the 18's touched the inner wing where I didn't realise) but seemed like it was dragging the front having the extra tyre size and wheel width/mass... Either way great video and surprised I never saw it pop up before, rock on!

[@Cameramanrob_]

Mans really out here exposing drifting myths lol I rate it😂💯

[@ytbb123]

Love to see how a pro drifter has such a lot of fun with a bmw compact. Personally i think e36 compact is a great car :)

[@Dansavage314]

New series... “what can’t Chelsea do?!”

[@ROGUESPIRIT_]

The amount of people that will just do anything this guy says without question is mind blowing. Can no one think for themselves anymore?

[@chelseadenofa]

It’s called educating people. I guess you haven’t ever learned anything in school? I like to take the approach of extreme education... then let the end user make their own decisions... should you do this if you’re not experienced... no, but should you have super sticky tires up front? NO

[@ROGUESPIRIT_]

@@chelseadenofa My comment doesnt deny anything you are saying. Every car had a balance for front and rear grip that should be decided by the driver, I think we both have this same understanding and you attempt to prove that with this video. The problem is the people that's only takeaway from this is you dont need front grip, some setups do and its up to the driver to dial the car how they like it. Ill say it again, too many people take your words as the words of god and dont get any other opinion or input, they are just clones of your driving style.

[@bsiccs]

I feel like front grip helps you start and end a drift-pulling you towards or away from the apex-, and rear grip helps you go through it- pushing you around the corner.

[@xXbyebyegirl01Xx]

Yeah this video is mostly clickbait. You technically dont need any grip in the front if you drift it exactly on the button. But the margin or error is basically zero with basically zero grip... You will have a lot more fun if you just put grippy tires on the front. "Myth" NOT busted

[@SKOMPAS]

I wonder if skinny spare tyres like this are a super soft rubber compound, they don’t have to last long and they aren’t exposed to the sun, they seem to work amazing!

[@ArmyVet1776]

Dude, lets see this on your demo spec-5!

[@ghettoflowers9635]

Great video. Made my morning! So funny to watch them donuts. Now i want some krispy kreme.

[@erickmoney2691]

Glad, you've been uploading a bunch! You were rippin er' !

[@BBox-135]

I'm impressed the spares from 2001 stayed together and didn't blow at the very least because those tires are normally rated for 50-55 mph. I am curious if longer and wider chassis you get the same results.

[@chelseadenofa]

This car has a 107.5” wheelbase. It’s longer than almost all drift cars

[@BBox-135]

@@chelseadenofa I had no idea the ti compact, impressed.

[@ricerlife8322]

Loved going gokarting there always had a blast

[@rdatomica2230]

I'm honestly really surprised how well this actually worked! I mean I guess it makes sense, like, dune buggy's use thin tires up front so then get more grip when turning through the sand and ice skates have thin blades so I guess it's kinda like that, but it probably has absolutely no relation to this what so ever, but hey, imma go with it xD

[@HallowellsSpeedShop]

It would be interesting for you to do a follow up video of gripping up the front to show how it could hinder or hide bad front end setups 👀

[@waider]

Damn I never thought it would rip like that.

[@joshuamahala6196]

Ahh good old gundies, been there a ton of times for my cars over the years. Love seeing videos from the pnw bro.

[@CamMartonDrift]

I remember my mate mentioning he wants to run a competition where everyone runs these wheels on the front. Would really seperate the men from the boys 🤣

[@emanueljunio986]

I think the front alignment is more relevant than the grip on the front tires, so your car performs well so

[@dumpsterstu4474]

I love the video and the content. I'm low key excited to see my hometown wrecking yard on youtube.

[@FaworDrifts]

you are overall Chelsea a person, thanks to which I have such a fun drift suspension knowladge what I have now, but comparing to your FD experiance and mine from last 3 years and 4 cars - will not fully agree :) 1st of all I'm opinion, that your both FD progress in Mustangs is 1:1 connected with better front grip and better selfsteer. Cars are noticable (just from watching movies) easier to control. 2nd of all: make such test in your ori 318ti :) My experiance from my 316ti (100hp or below, on the channel) says - this car pushes so much forward due to having no power to lift the tires easily, that without front grip to 'hold it' 'forced' on the drift line, it will be not able to drift. Here it is possible thanks to great SLR geometry and huge amount of NA-blasting torque which fires up the tires immediately. I will be glad to heare what do you think about my theory :)

[@jameyharrison7499]

Sayin howdy, getting rowdy🤙🏽That backy was 🔥How ya doin bro?

[@big_head_ted]

I knew this was gonna work the second I saw the thumbnail cause there is a guy from new zealand that I've seen do it before

[@rhassard278411]

a long time ago i posted a question about fronts on the Lone Star Drift Stuff page and you and Fielding both chimed in. Both of you said a balance set-up and one of you (cant remember which) said youre steering with the ass end, making the big changes with the throttle and the small changes in the wheel. since then ive been running 215 or 225 westlakes (i had 225 westlakes when you drove my car) and dropped the 225 feddy rs-rr. i love the way my car drives since the change. and if its understeering im obviously not driving it hard enough.

[@von...]

now try it with the spares on the rear & some big wide johnnys on the front or try this, but with the most grippy rears you can run on the 318ti

[@joey_f4ke238]

This makes me so sad cause we threw out a pair of tyres from my car that were from 2003 and had almost no wear

[@chrillernitro2000]

Wow this is crazy! I can't wrap my head around it 😨

[@JamDrifts]

This is absolutely bonkers and I love it!

[@trevermonk8575]

I was hoping to see you use all four at once lol. Great proof of concept!

[@robinskeppstam]

I think I found a new favourite channel

[@the.ghost.behind.u]

This is hilarious n definitely great content. I'm just sittin here eagerly awaiting the front spare tires to debead n roll off the rim cus after 50-80miles of use they do that

[@chelseadenofa]

Me too

[@lordnork3360]

I'm certainly not proud of this....but I had one from 1998 on the back of my 96 buick century for roughly 6k miles....most of which where highway speeds.....was waiting for it to try and kill me. Its still "usable" if absolutely necessary...

[@rydazim]

Maybe that's why I sucked so bad when I drifted. I ran a 265 square set up on my 350z for my daily wheels and my drift spares were only 235.

[@SylasG]

Definitely getting rid of my sticky front tires, I dislike the grip at high angle entries. I think i remember an old video from japan when they did this and the cars drifted just as good.

[@new_spin]

Chris Harris did this a few years back with 4 spares on a C63 AMG On a wet track haha It looked super cool and he said it was super fun

[@chelseadenofa]

Yea the 4 spares would absolutely work, but that wasn’t the point of my video, it was to show a normal drift car that has no issues keeping up with everyone, then toss spares on it

[@1990Redline]

I'm just at 1:25 and YES black wheels are so ugly and dumb! Thank YOU! 😂👍 Sick that it worked out so well.. I guess for drifting it can be awesome to learn better in the beginning, just like you shouldn't start with 400 hp, always start small for learning, same for grip Oriented racing, I learned to drive fast and smooth with my mk1 Golf wich made driving fast in more powerful and advanced cars way easier. I don't think the no front grip thing would work out on a grip car lol, like we're the brakes lol 😂 awesome video man 👍

[@BOOT]

I've seen guy drift with front runners but not like that. I actually wanted to try wide but short tires, like 14's n low pro's because people never think about how a taller tire has a longer contact patch

[@itsmikelake]

Hot damn, that thing rips!

[@WoolyWolf99]

Taking “shopping cart steering” to the next level.

[@darioknezovic5587]

Mr. DeNofa, quick question. How many e36 bimmers do you have? Chelsea : Yes 🙄 Just kidding, props to you man, really living the life

[@trippydrifter4674]

Ok I was gonna throw my spare out and now I want a second one.

[@SMD-si7fm]

I use them for 4th of july burnouts. Little to no stress on the drive train, and you can go until they pop without overheating.

[@dannyr3346]

That dude could drift a one wheeled walmart shopping cart!!!

[@DriftJesus]

Yep, majority of people would do better with narrower fronts. These wheels also give negative scrub so that makes it better , and probably eliminate jacking entirely.