Who Originally Disrupted The Count? | Pixar Theory

[@link_is_here22]

"The count's off: "We need to figure out a way to get people to stop making horcruxes"

[@Anonymoushomosapien23]

Definitley

[@ElixirTheBard]

Yup

[@bokutokotaro9430]

F*** Voldemort!

[@Rudy01B]

lol

[@elisabethpowell2632]

amazing

[@everestcanyon5647]

When Thanos snapped half the Universe out of existence, that threw off the count significantly.

[@thesymbiotenation.4552]

Terry: Ok... 1000 *Snap happens* Oh son of A B### THE COUNT IS OFF BY A BILLION!

[@idioticdemon2619]

O0of

[@gugoosgaming6800]

The conveyor belt must have been crowded like anything

[@cowbeanboi412]

@@Quazrr it was a joke

[@TheAnimeEncyclopedia]

@@thesymbiotenation.4552 imagine when it got Reversed Snapped XD

[@lopadon8363]

I don’t know if anyone has brought this up but 22 is older than all of her mentors

[@afonso.d.v.rodrigues]

technically she is and she isn't age isn't a thing in the seminar

[@animallover5843]

why do I feel like one went "respect your elders" and 22 just blankly stared at them

[@Mushroompancake]

She is simultaneously hundreds of thousands of years old, and 0 years old, so yes, but actually no

[@lordmaster6667]

Age is calculated from date of birth. Time isn't a thing in the great before and 22 hasn't been born yet. You can't even argue that she's older in terms of life experience, as she hasn't had any before the movie.

[@lordmaster6667]

@@girosvaldodeskate2214 A thing can't get older without time.

[@BlueEngland]

Terry: The count is off! Doctors: Well we did it boys, the patient survived.

[@raptorjesus5870]

Jesus: Lazuras: The servant: The nobles daughter:

[@itsthefreakinbat7299]

XD

[@jerrymeyer6183]

@@raptorjesus5870 I thought of this too when I rewatched this movie

[@Shiggymidoryia]

NOT TODAY X-X I’m LIVING the dream

[@scarletrevon522]

I know how through off the count Harry Potter 😂

[@veronicaaragon8610]

My friend has a theory that 22 is Edna Mode and I can't unsee.

[@melodytheatre2887]

THATS ACTUALLY REALLY TRUE-

[@edwardnickles2725]

This is very possible.

[@sabrinadaigle5494]

@Jocelyn Anderson 22 said they could take on any voice they wanted in the Great Before, but chose theirs because it annoyed people the most. So the accent wouldn't necessarily be a deal breaker!

[@eE-ip2tt]

The timeline doesn't add up tho considering enda's from like the 60s and soul takes place more so in modern times .. fun headcanon tho :D

[@aarien_of_aurolyth]

@@eE-ip2tt remember though, time doesn't exist in the great before, so 22 could be jumping into any time on Earth, so could in fact, be Edna.

[@hiroto5095]

"The count is off." "Another Phoenix Gem?" "You know it." "We gotta stop making those." Hahahaha. Edit: Sorry I forgot the line at first

[@clonetrooper4542]

They technically weren’t in the great before, so time isn’t flimsy

[@pinkajou656]

Lmto

[@Egg_Sandwich1]

He actually said you know it but whatever. Im still liking it

[@hiroto5095]

@@Egg_Sandwich1 oh

[@piniatafullofblood]

@@clonetrooper4542 time is always flimsy. Wibbly wobbly, timey wimey stuff. *if you know, you know. If you don’t, don’t argue with me cuz I just wanted to make a whovian reference.*

[@ניברצבסקי]

what about the witch being a timetraveler possibly dying ceturies before she was even born?

[@opaldreemurr271]

I agree!

[@aikenanderson22]

The witch from Brave is supposedly Boo from Monsters Inc.

[@thelittleredrobinhood4934]

That’s what I thought!

[@angieill5913]

Not if that was here fate. Living for centuries could be hers.

[@happycamper4734]

Maybe they both messed up the count, because Terry said the count hasnt been off in centuries, it could have been off twice in one century.

[@rosemali3022]

Honestly, the whole concept of Soul is terrifying for those who have"cheated death", aka have had a near death experience. I enjoyed the movie just fine but let's get real, the concept of an interdimensional being trying to track down souls who were supposed to, but didn't die is really scary.

[@universalpower419]

That's the plot of final destination.

[@patrickshannon3884]

Don't mind me just rewriting this to be in d&d story

[@ThatGuyRNA]

@@patrickshannon3884don’t mind me im also doing that now

[@ryanlybarger2988]

Imagine coming home from the doctor, and then some two-dimensional Karen starts chasing you down. Literally horror movie fodder.

[@louisalex98]

Maybe is the opposite way? Like, you are not supposed to die and then some interdimensional thing is trying to track down who died and offed the count +1

[@emilyjewett2660]

My question then is, was joe really dead? He wasn’t in the morgue. Was he just alive because his soul didn’t reach the light? So the fall... put him in a (should be) fatal coma?

[@Mirrorcomics24]

Purgatory id say

[@angelat5554]

he wouldn’t have been dead until he crossed into the great beyond. he was in a coma i think. i think he was put in a somewhat transitional phase, between life and death.

[@Mirrorcomics24]

@@angelat5554 not a coma

[@Aquilla842]

You can become brain dead but your body will still function, I personally have seen pregnant women have that happen and they keep her body alive while she is pregnant and when she is in labor, they do a C section and have the baby and let the mom pass away because she has suffered enough and it’s her time

[@BRDoriginal]

I thought it said it was a coma. The real question is how 22 was able to walk fine. like broken bones? He literally was gonna die. That had to major damage.

[@manbehindtheslaughter]

"Is the count off?" "Oops, Mario picked up another 1up." "Shoot"

[@drswag0076]

same for Kirby, oh wait.

[@peterparker5810]

Mario must be so annoying to Terry

[@Wingedlight-nn4hl]

@@peterparker5810 anyone who has extra lives or can get extra lives is annoying to her.

[@peterparker5810]

@@Wingedlight-nn4hl among other people

[@Wingedlight-nn4hl]

@@peterparker5810 Every Isekai Protagonist

[@mapizbernal2289]

My head still goes “THESE SOCKS ARE AMAZING” every time one of your videos ends. I’m contaminated forever

[@lennedykee8558]

same!!!

[@sav.diesel]

oh how times have changed

[@RuyLopezTheSicilian]

2319, WE HAVE A 2319

[@rizkydharma8373]

Well... you are not alone😂

[@Ah._._]

Do you mean these not this socks are amazing

[@theultimatefrozenfan]

Fun Fact: Terry is actually a female! She is voiced by Rachael House who played Gramma Tala in Moana. And if you look up her official description you will see Terry is referred to as she.

[@thesymbiotenation.4552]

She did a really good impression of a man... Couldn't even tell

[@theultimatefrozenfan]

@@thesymbiotenation.4552 IKR My Mom thought it might've been James Corden doing her voice at first.

[@theultimatefrozenfan]

@@hal-fling what do you mean Noo...NOOO?!

[@hal-fling]

@@theultimatefrozenfan whoops looks like i accidentally replied to wrong comment- sorry!

[@theultimatefrozenfan]

@@hal-fling o OK no problem that happens

[@Aralc638]

I was hoping you were going to make a comment about how 22 says “you can’t crush a soul here, that’s what life on earth is for”

[@THETVGCHANNEL]

I don't know what to make of this stement

[@ezy3369]

*i cri everytiem*

[@Plazminx]

wait that was said?

[@tennis-boy1711]

@@Plazminx yeah they said that in the movie

[@donutstudios6353]

so that means 22 knows something about earth!

[@JimmyJohnsCupSeries]

“Who else manages to avoid death in a count disrupting manner?” My brain: *HARRY POTTER*

[@Anonymoushomosapien23]

definitley, also, maybe volde-you know who?

[@zeverrus9015]

@@Anonymoushomosapien23 Voldy died tho lol

[@Anonymoushomosapien23]

@@zeverrus9015 yeah but he did have horcruxes at one point and survived the killing curse when it rebound on him

[@unknownpiceofchesse2654]

Ya him and good old Voldemort

[@andrewedits8276]

“The Count is off” “Another Horcrux” “Got to stop making those”

[@reportedbooch697]

Mister Mittens coming back was actually stated to be a result of it's nine lives. I believe one of the writers said it when asked about it. Pixar writers certainly have a sense of humor.

[@darrenmacqueen9884]

So... 9 lives means 9 souls? Or did the original soul get returned?

[@fluffyemu2714]

@@darrenmacqueen9884 personally id like to think of it as a punch card type of situation

[@9nikolai]

@@darrenmacqueen9884 Nah, Terry just sees the cat on the conveyor belt and throws it back onto Earth, because Terry really likes cats and don't want them to die, but Terry feels like 10 lives is a little too much.

[@darrenmacqueen9884]

@@9nikolai lol I like this explanation. I am surprised that Pixar said it was a 9 lives situation though. I figured Terry just returned the cat to his own body to restore the count. Since the cat wasn't supposed to die.

[@claireoverdorf9284]

on the first pass i thought the joke was that cats don’t have souls lol

[@ryanlybarger2988]

Speaking of Soul, there is a soul in the You-Seminar video that described themself as a "manipulative megalomaniac who's intensely opportunistic." My head canon is that this exact soul actually becomes Buddy, better known as Syndrome. It makes sense! Buddy was born around 1933, and assuming the Terrys make a new video every so often, the video would have been recorded about 70 years ago. (This also kind of explains why we don't see the Jerry in the video.) Edit: We do see him actually, just only once. Syndrome is very manipulative, constantly using reverse psychology and peer pressure. He is also incredibly obsessed with being powerful, as we see him bragging about his inventions many times. This would explain the whole "megalomaniac" ordeal. Also, I believe living in a volcano and killing off Supers as a means to test his inventions are both very opportunistic. What do you think? I really like this theory!

[@macyplantain6176]

Makes a lot of sense. This is now a headcanon for me

[@hallvardolai]

Jesus: Resurects hinself Terry: The counts off!

[@collinfilippini8229]

This is what I figured it was

[@michaelfruetel273]

This was my first thought as well. But if it doesn't fit the Pixar theory, you know there will be other explanations!

[@lucidfangirl1030]

YESSSS that what I just thought

[@Tokayla]

Yep that is what I was looking for. XD

[@ElffieElix]

Jesus: I am your boss

[@claireoverdorf9284]

ben: “everything is happening simultaneously, and also not at all” me: it’s jeremy bearimy baby

[@kittymj06]

Omg yes lol my thoughts exactly

[@colehawksworth3028]

Yes

[@erosebud123]

I thought of that as well

[@claireoverdorf9284]

@Nicholas Brown Karageorge lollll

[@asafupps]

Terrimy Bearimy

[@SuperCarlinBrothers]

Souls are Swamp farts. Confirmed.

[@LavenderHaze1313]

😆😂🤣🤣🤣

[@lachlanmercer9381]

too true

[@paxlolno4899]

Sure I guess-

[@cheetahchase21]

Here before pin

[@lolo-no9pm]

souls = swamp farts the answer to all my questions

[@majakaszuba5844]

I actually think it might have been Boo, when she time-traveled, avoiding her destined time for death

[@Simplyyizzyy]

Exactly what I was thinking

[@GabrielsAdvent]

Good theory, only one issue. Boo avoiding her death doesn't happen centuries before Joe hops off the conveyer belt. The human side of the door in Monsters Inc. would be happening in the 1990s (considering Sid from Toy Story appears in a few comics going into the monster world through the doors). I can't find anything about Soul's year, but I doubt it happens centuries after the 1990s. Even if Boo was supposed to die soon after Monsters Inc. (which is dark, considering she was like 4, but whatever), it wouldn't be centuries before Joe disrupted it.

[@macyplantain6176]

Good theory but Jerry says that “the count hasn’t been off in centuries” and it was confirmed that it was around the year 2000 when Boo was a toddler.

[@majakaszuba5844]

@@macyplantain6176 but if we consider time travel, years don't really matter don't they?

[@sonderer]

I thought it might have been Mother Gothel, however, I think Rapunzel is not from Pixar so...

[@brokenfoxproductions]

Theory: Joe had a heart attack from the shock of the fall. A sewer maintenance worker saved him from drowning in the sewer but Joe's fate was up in the air while they did open heart surgery to remove the clot. He would only have a few bruises and a chest scar which would be hidden by his gown/clothes.

[@lavenderisdedagain4554]

That actually makes a lot of sense, I think this is probably the best explanation

[@13thxenos]

All in the same day?

[@feraguilar4175]

I don't get how 22 can feel the hunger of Joe's body, but not the pain of open heart surgery or the fall for that matter...

[@amyefting3225]

No way was he in open heart surgery and able to just up and out within a few minutes. The anesthesia alone would have you hella out of it for hours, not to mention the pain. I'm honestly not sure how they can explain a hospital stay starting in the afternoon with a performance that night and still get everything done (everything involving time on earth since time is funky elsewhere).

[@TheTechyDan]

@@feraguilar4175 Drugs

[@spencerpinkston9972]

Well joe never legally died, he was still on life support when 22 entered his body

[@coldermusic2729]

Good thing terry doesn’t follow the law 😁

[@taylor012able]

He didn't die because he didn't go into the giant white space and his soul ran off the belt.

[@isaacwright4910]

that could be because the body dies after the soul departs into the great beyond maybe?

[@apples3036]

Joe mama

[@wildfireedits5834]

Maybe he did die but we he jumped off the conveyor belt they were able to resuscitate him?

[@HayleeSparkleHayleeSparkllle]

I would like to think it’s boo/Mary because of the theory that she never dies because she created a time loop of trying to find Sully but that’s just what I think

[@dispelled1401]

Also if she dies in the past would that not create a +1 on the count because she hadn’t been born yet.

[@HayleeSparkleHayleeSparkllle]

@@dispelled1401 either way boo definitely disrupt the count based off of the Pixar theory

[@dispelled1401]

@@HayleeSparkleHayleeSparkllle For sure

[@joshuaschnee8885]

Lol I was about to comment the same thing

[@rjohmerjohx]

I did not see your post, and said the same thing. Lol.

[@sunflowerxx477]

Theory: Mother Gothel is the one that threw off the count, she was hundreds of years old so she probably should've died a long time before she actually did Edit: I realize now that it wouldn't work because it's not Pixar, I didn't really think of that when I originally wrote it

[@everyonessunshine]

she’s disney, not pixar, but good theory

[@2ndlt.sadness67]

But- she would have had to have already died to even be added to the count tho

[@yrok244]

@@2ndlt.sadness67 Nope. It’s explained in the video, the count is the number of people whose fate indicates that they’re supposed to go to the great beyond. The whole theory is that Mordu changed his fate and thus never died, so he disrupted the count. Doesn’t really matter either way though since Mother Gothel isn’t in the pixar universe.

[@sofiacopsey1784]

@@everyonessunshine it doesn’t have to be Pixar.

[@yrok244]

@@sofiacopsey1784 It actually does in this case, since the rules of the Pixar theory is that the material has to be from a Pixar-produced content. In one's own headcanon it doesn't have to be Pixar, but in this specific case, it has to be.

[@iviano1149]

Another question to ponder: while terry’s gone, who’s counting? Or can a million people jump off the belt and terry just doesnt account for it.

[@ashcorvus7004]

Terry is always counting. Always watching. Terry. Terry. Terry. Terry.

[@duetopersonalreasonsaaaaaa]

@@ashcorvus7004 Terry time. ;)

[@nardipai]

Terry said that he always count even without looking

[@mailyak442]

(Terry is voiced by a woman lol)

[@nkirukaj2384]

@@nardipai *they

[@ScummyRebel]

Here’s what I think: the count being off doesn’t ONLY mean someone who was supposed to die, did not. It could ALSO be, someone died.. WHO SHOULD NOT HAVE EXISTED. An EXTRA death! Was the old witch BORN that long ago? Or did she travel through time? If she did travel through time as the Carlin’s theory suggests, her death would indeed throw off the count.

[@claudiaciempka8781]

I thought that too!! cause in the Pixar theory I think that boo is also the witch.

[@devinwatts3106]

I was thinking that as well lol

[@lilkittyashy9858]

@@claudiaciempka8781 It is as you can see that old lady is acutally Boo if you look closer at the stuff she has made you can see sullivan on one of the wood thingy

[@christianali5431]

@@lilkittyashy9858 All that means is she knows Sullivan, or knows that Sullivan was going to be born. The brave movie takes elements from McBeth, and in Macbeth Scottish witches tell the future. I’m sorry, but I am a bit of a doubting Thomas when it comes to the concept of time travel in the Pixar theory. I believe most of everything else I hear in the Pixar theory [that all the movies exist in the same universe, and emotions and mentality having the power to strengthen or weaken things, depending on how they think], but until they make a movie that currently deals with time travel, it’s a bit hard for me to believe that boo and the wood carving witch are one and the same person.

[@lilkittyashy9858]

@@christianali5431 oh that's okay I understand I respect that :3

[@dontworry5909]

I’m not religious but I’m guessing the count was off when Jesus was resurrected

[@Jeff_isAverage]

Bruh

[@seanmalloy0528]

same thinking

[@wlk3607]

same

[@Suo_kongque]

Pretty sure that was about 20 centuries ago... so mordu fits better

[@EyesofHorus7]

Bro.

[@prestongeoshsmith1521]

I wonder if Terry was shocked with the amount of people entering the Great Beyond during 2020-2021. "THE COUNT IS OFF!! WHY ARE THERE SO MANY SOULS ENTERING???"

[@universalpower419]

That amount of souls was meant to happen

[@theinsaneperson8021]

@@universalpower419 true

[@declanjames1294]

that wouldn't throw of the count because they did die normally, the count is off when someone escapes death or gets out of the great beyond

[@Walleyedwosaik]

Nah bro watta bout Black Death killed a third of Europe and the Spanish flu diseases happen it’s natural we were actually pretty lucky Covid wasn’t a disease as deadly as the black plague because that would have been real scary

[@ADMusic1999]

A writer at Pixar: *yawns Every movie critic on youtube: "so how does this yawn fit in the Pixar universe?"

[@7bvbyyrissa]

😩😩😩😂

[@bomburthefat6621]

in soul Joe asked if he was dead and then the Jerrys said that he was being kept alive (presumibly for the seminar) so likely he did die, but just happened to luck into the situation he was in.

[@stellastble]

or theorist

[@justanotherpawninthealgori1122]

The yawn was the tiny amount of force that pushed the astroid past Earth not killing the dinosaurs.

[@winterwolf6931]

Since Pixar's workers are the great god of the Pixar universe, that yawn moved the asteroid so that it didn't hit earth. The air exhaled from the workers mouth created a wind current that affected the asteroid trajectory and allowed it to miss the Earth :D

[@septimor32]

Actually maybe maybe actually: The whole count of dead "people" were off, when the asteroid flew past the earth instead of killing the dinosaurs.

[@noosaibazahrah1318]

Septimor wow that's a good point

[@KikiMeowKitty]

@Ezra Cohen exactly

[@iamironman3388]

@Ezra Cohen yeah

[@septimor32]

@Ezra Cohen Parallel reality and all that. If it may have happened it may have never happened. In one of the realities it will hit them, so..

[@chimp5411]

I just thought since 22 was never born the count was off during the time she was supposed to die

[@Wingedlight-nn4hl]

Knowing how much Terry cares about the count she was probably scratching her head for longest time trying to figure out which soul was missing but when Mor’du’s soul finally leaves the bear’s body she probably said “Terry time”.

[@ThemperorZir]

I want to see a short where Terry is trying to track down Mordu.

[@thesymbiotenation.4552]

Then he sees Giant Immortal Bear... and just Nopes out of there

[@universalpower419]

@@thesymbiotenation.4552 Terry is literally a force of the universe, a bear wouldn't do anything.

[@monicapacheco301]

Dude theres a call 22 vs earth lol

[@oliwiaburczyk4624]

I think it would be "Where's ... oh, nope! I am out of here!"

[@macyplantain6176]

Haha yeah!

[@ktstudios2391]

The creators of the movie: watches the video Also the creators of the movie: Wow... we didn’t even think about this...

[@danyhunselar9654]

Pixar

[@gatorcopter]

While the souls we see *are* going to Earth, one of the Jerrys mentions they'll take Joe to "the Earth portal," which kind of implies the existence of other portals to other places, which wouldn't be too hard to believe. I really doubt the entire great before is dedicated exclusively to Earth tbh

[@McMomfaceplustwo]

I came here to say this. Otherwise it would just be the portal or the life portal or the soul hole.

[@Dantevonlocke]

Yeah, plus youd think that different planets would have different qualities.

[@katestatt]

especially since jerry said they are the "coming together of *all* quantized fields of the universe." so bascially the pixar universe, of which onward is a part of.

[@ThatmfJuli4n]

@@McMomfaceplustwo can i just say i love the name soul hole

[@batmitesolos7097]

Mars needs moms portal

[@Nobody-hj4pr]

“The count is off” “It was plot amour!” “Shoot!!!!”

[@fortysvideoarchive]

"we tried that already."

[@raptorjesus5870]

Uhhhhh? what about uhhhh? Wait no. It was jesus.

[@moyai6618]

c3p0 be like

[@kaffeine_kween]

well, the needlepoint wasn't what fixed Merida's curse on her mother. it was Merida finally admitting that the situation was her fault and accepting responsibility for her actions.

[@cosmicriptid]

I think he said that as a joke

[@elsa6448]

Ben: Classic oldest child move. So entitled. J: Hey! I second that ‘Hey!’

[@animatedteaching13]

Same

[@HarryPotterNerds-ie7mi]

I 3rd that

[@loveHate1327]

"I'm the middle so I have it worse either way"

[@noaschaafsma5547]

Join the club

[@DavidKassa]

I third that hey

[@Dober87g]

Surprised you didn't have Boo on your list. In her search for Sully, she throws off the count by taking over the body of the old lady in Brave, a movie that takes place centuries before Soul.

[@thekangarooster1997]

She didn’t take over the body, that is her body. She goes through time a traveling door, one of the ones from the scare factory in monsters Inc. disguised to look like a cabin door so it would not be noticed, but can still travel through time over the course of the movie only having to go through a small space to get to the other door. Hence, the cabin.

[@everyonessunshine]

they have different eye colors so no

[@sophieoliensis7557]

I had a totally different theory on why it's Boo but yeah basically.

[@darkassassinkantafly]

@@everyonessunshine It is possible that the eye colour change happened accidentally earlier in her life when she was only just starting to learn magic and didn't really understand it fully.

[@agustinfranco0]

pixar: lets just say something random like, is hasnt been off in centuries, just to make it clear its something that almost never happens SCB: WHAT HAPPENED CENTURIES AGO?

[@loracorwyn3713]

Yup. I was thinking they made a whole 15 min video on likely an off handed one liner. They are legends.

[@TheMDCXVII]

I think it is more a Jesus joke

[@loracorwyn3713]

@@TheMDCXVII that was my initial thought when watching it as well.

[@jlaueydyrhebd]

Me: nukes the a country Terry: THE COUNT WHAT THE HECK

[@theshadowslullaby4265]

This is awesome

[@Plazminx]

o.0 *WHAT*

[@karalyna2004]

@꧁The DJ_Faith꧂ than 2 nukes

[@gameinglad6148]

The German mustache man was maybe a bit worse

[@ajjamsen694]

Spaceballs "When will then be now?!" "Soon!" I'm super bummed you guys didnt use this reference because it will never not be utter perfection🤣

[@jttw2374]

Yes, just yes

[@steinbrosstein209]

That my favourite movie I watched it 20 times in 3 years

[@LFCfan94]

@@steinbrosstein209 what movie

[@Blu_Moon_VA]

The Schwartz wasn't with them.

[@kaiv.4797]

I like you, I thought the exact same thing

[@CSHallo]

Could the "count being off" just be a reference to Christianity's founding story (i.e., the death and resurrection of one special guy)?

[@RhyanandCaden]

I like this idea!

[@ElffieElix]

That was what I thought when I originally heard the line

[@jaydenmichael5188]

I never considered that, but if Terry seems to know about what souls are and aren't supposed to be there, wouldn't he know Jesus was supposed to come back to life? One of the Jerries pretty much confirmed the existence of both Heaven and "H-E double hockey sticks" when they told Joe he was in the great before. Therefore God *definitely* exists in Soul and it's possible he would have told Terry, one or more Jerries, or both about Jesus' resurrection.

[@Bogalog]

It's sounds like you're being held at gunpoint to not say the words "Bible" and "Jesus".

[@CSHallo]

@@jaydenmichael5188 Terry knows the count. Does Terry know anything more than the figures? I don’t think so. Then naturally the count would be off for Terry centuries ago (about 20) because Terry wouldn’t have known the resurrection plan. Terry isn’t too bright if the Jerries could rig the count so easily for Joe at the end. It could have been fixed that way before or some other more “divine directive” way.

[@alehandrofranco4345]

So we just gone forget about Meg being brought back to life in Hercules

[@ruthdelacey5473]

Alehandro Franco Hercules is not a Pixar film

[@thomasnovitsky2353]

But it is a Disney film

[@Aspen_Husky]

@@thomasnovitsky2353 The pixar theory is only pixar films

[@dawntaylor736]

@@thomasnovitsky2353 what if it's all connected

[@jonathanboehmer6240]

Its not pixar tho

[@diegoguzman6770]

How does Joe gardener’s Mom not noticed that he is dead in the hospital

[@darksunite8050]

He was never dead tho

[@universalpower419]

How would she know?

[@EXANT9000]

@@darksunite8050 he was still in the hospital though

[@TheBookwormAlly]

@@darksunite8050 He would’ve had to die to get to the great beyond

[@dthelucario129]

Maybe she hadn’t been notified yet

[@redgiant7747]

I love the way that the Jerry’s responded to Terry telling them the count’s off. “Hey yo, fellow cosmic beings that don’t actually have a physical form but look however you’re perceived by the humans you interact with, I have come to alert you that someone literally cheated death, and are now running amok somewhere.” “.....ok and?”

[@MagicCardboardBox]

I mean, time doesn't exist for them and they are literally omnipotent, it kind of... Isn't an issue. He'll find the soul, he'll take care of it.

[@redgiant7747]

@@MagicCardboardBox I guess so, but their passive aggressiveness towards Terry is still hilarious to me.

[@tayclayplays1457]

I mean technically Merida DOES bring back her mother with her apology with confession of love, not with the tapestry. So that IS kind of like walle and eves hand holding.

[@Hulk_Lover]

Yeah, but she wasn't supposed to die then anyway.

[@Jaknaboi]

THE WITCH FROM BRAVE, if she is Boo, she is an extra soul in the past

[@superduck5479]

E X A C T L Y

[@roastedlemon]

But if The Pixar theory is true, it wouldn't be an extra soul in the past, it would just be Boo's soul when it was her time, it's not like she both died in the future and the past.

[@raylop80731]

@@roastedlemon but she died in the past therefore they would be plus 1 a soul until her soul leaves to enter the body at birth.

[@TamTroll]

@@raylop80731 this all assumes she dies in Mereda's time period. The idea is the Witch is Boo travelling through time looking for Sully. What reason would she have to stay in Merida's time if she's looking for Sully? She could just as easily have moved to a different time period, either to return to her own to die, or possibly throwing off the count a third time in Sully's far-future after finding him.

[@raylop80731]

@@TamTroll have you seen the cabin? By the looks of it shes been there for a bit. Yes its possible that she left the time period but its also possible she died there.

[@solariguana1295]

Minecraft Steve:uses a totem of undieing Terry:the counts off

[@eyesack6845]

Undying* and add a space between the colon and the next word.

[@declanjames1294]

that wouldn't technically throw off the count because that would be something that saves him, the count would be off if he respawned

[@indodinoyoutube]

😂

[@Denyce111]

This just made me think... maybe the Jerrys dismissed Terry when he said he would figure it out because he spent a lot of time last time the count was off trying to figure out who it was, but never could because he didn't really die.

[@spaceybread]

I like this interpretation

[@2amgaming388]

Initial thoughts: duh, Moana, demigod theory... Afterthoughts: you're not wrong...

[@DrRank]

Wrong universe

[@zayden1569]

Pixar

[@boi5738]

“THE COUNT IS OFF!” “Another spell?” “Ya.” “We need to not have a witchcraft spark.” “Ya.”

[@johncarlocanada3847]

Terry: "The Counts Off!" Loki: 👁️👄👁️

[@declanjames1294]

well that technically wouldn't mess it up since it's an alternate timeline

[@shroom8773]

so how would Boo NOT throw off the count? if she is a time traveler when is she supposed to die? does she never die creating a similar situation as mordu??

[@supportiveturtle2831]

I think that was her destiny so she died when she had to

[@kalebcoggins189]

Even though she time-travels, it's clear that she still ages, so she would die at some point in time, just not necessarily her own time.

[@cedartheyeah.justyeah.3967]

That's a... Very good point.

[@dolenore]

The thing about time travel is that if it is possible to go backward, as the Theory suggests, it always happened that way. The past becomes the traveler's present. They were always going to go back, and so they were always expected to die in the past. Time Travel doesn't disrupt the count.

[@AZDfox]

@@dolenore it would, however, create the interesting situation of her soul arriving without having left.

[@Creeperdude-wt4xf]

“I’m the middle I always have it worst” True and there is nothing anyone can do that will disprove this fact

[@michaelgillespie9112]

Middle child here, I was treated as the youngest due to how high maintenance I was as an Autistic kid with ADHD. I usually got the most attention, although I never actually realized this until recently.

[@carsfan1995]

Michael Gillespie Autistic middle child getting the most attention too. Grant my younger sister is also on the spectrum, but when it came to the election our parents listened when I told them not to talk about the results. The younger sister was just as concerned and scared but it was mainly about my feelings and stressors. Same with January 6 where my older sister was concerned about my reaction more than my younger sister's who probably felt more than just laughing at what I thought was a Hunger Games recreation. (This is not a subject to discuss politics, I was basically using the most recent example of my family giving me more attention than my younger sister despite me being the middle child).

[@NyGeL_Derey]

"Dance moves come from the soul" I guess I don't have a soul...

[@Icepetal01]

NyGeL I guess I don’t either because I don’t like dancing and I’m really bad at it soooooooo.......... I guess I don’t have soul, wonderful.... I mean wouldn’t really surprise me cause, you know.... 2020

[@yuki97kira]

Before: gingers dont have souls Now: non dancers dont have souls

[@Kidapollo92]

So at first I was like oh he don’t have dance moves then u like oh he don’t have dance moves then I was like....... ooooooooh

[@HiopX]

Dancing Ginger: Checkmate theists

[@onijester56]

*reaches into a satchel* Here, have one of mine. I don't need it, I have plenty.

[@creepykiller2876]

ok, something I just realized about Brave. At the end of the movie, Merida has also reunited the four clans. Four clans = four brothers. Her father is the Bear King. I think she is actually descended from Mordu and by reuniting the clans, AKA the brothers, she also broke his curse as well. I know there's the 24 hours to break the curse line, but what if the spell happening again restarted that count for him as well and made him mortal again? just a thought.

[@jayanderson147]

omg this actually super cool to think about

[@NatLeRat]

Ben: "Wall-E could have thrown off the count" J: "22 becomes Wall-E"

[@Kidapollo92]

Who disrupted the count ... Jesus Harry Potter Thanos Deadpool Loki

[@frog9524]

or rasputin

[@duetopersonalreasonsaaaaaa]

@@frog9524 RA RA RASPUTIN

[@Kidapollo92]

@INFINIVERSE OF SWAG nice

[@Zach90888]

The doctor? (Doctor who) 14 times?

[@zeltech-alpha]

​@@Zach90888I think regens are accounted for.

[@superduck5479]

I like how THE WITCH FROM BRAVE WASN'T MENTIONED BECAUSE SHE TIME TRAVELED (SHE IS BOO) AND WOULD BE 1 EXTRA SOUL FROM CENTURIES AGO

[@conservative_girlie]

I edited this comment because I was being rude :)

[@hunterkarns3774]

@@conservative_girlie probably go look for the old videos about her it makes sense

[@conservative_girlie]

@@caseydunbar2739 Yeah, I watched some videos on the theory and see where they're getting it from but I personally don't agree

[@Ksanthecat]

Wall-e has a soul. Us: we already knew that.

[@julianbogado9378]

"Miguel didn't manage to die" "Mordu failed to die" what's up with this task of dying bro xDDDD

[@alexeecs]

*Task failed successfully*

[@pinkajou656]

@@alexeecs Lmto

[@arighostea]

Lol couldn't even die properly what a nerd

[@tgbluewolf]

Lol right but I mean we all have to eventually

[@alexeecs]

@@tgbluewolf I mean Mordu could've stayed alive as a bear forever right?

[@sctaco2425]

He’s technically not dead though. They make it a point to say that he is close to death and in a coma in the hospital. He’s on the brink of death

[@universalpower419]

But his fate was to be dead in that moment, that's why he was going to the light.

[@sctaco2425]

@@universalpower419 I know but he wasn’t dead though, which was my point and is still correct

[@hal-fling]

Well yeah, they're not really dead until they enter the uh white thing

[@SophiaAphrodite]

His body did not die because he did not cross. Had he crossed he would have died.

[@endertobias1908]

But that means that everyone on the conveyer belt is not actually dead yet

[@naolmstead]

Cross over theory time: The only reason Miguel could live in the land of the dead in Coco was because that was the exact same time the count was off in Soul.

[@NormalLunk]

Soul does take place in autumn, and día de Los muertos is November 1 and 2. It matches up.

[@ElynevanOpzeeland]

oeh i like this one

[@atgyoutube3088]

Well the whether might been different that day

[@-ellieille-]

Ooh that’s a good one!

[@eloisebeingeloise]

i love this.

[@CommonCommenter]

The earth pass started flashing and became like a gps pulling her in the direction of her body. The souls during the time of the Axiom probably just started gravitating to their bodies on the ship.

[@hugglepugg7818]

Tbh I thought it was a joke referring to the resurrection of Jesus

[@hugglepugg7818]

@@ab-wj8yg oh thats clever

[@DrRank]

I think in His case, though, He got OUT of the Great Beyond, because He has power over death.

[@calebknapp8539]

Thats what I was thinking too

[@nickvliet4614]

That's what I thought too but hearing an in universe explanation is also interesting

[@ProjectBEAR]

I was thinking Him too, but now I think Lazarus. Jesus actually conquering death and all. Lazarus would have died again eventually.

[@kyaria8888]

"Oldest child, so entitled" Me: Not true Also Me: The front seat is MINE!!!!!!

[@ofentligofentlig8933]

You get the front seat😭

[@elisabethpowell2632]

correct the younger child may NOT HAVE THE FRONT SEAT

[@paralumein]

*laughs in only child*

[@EJ_BBall]

@@elisabethpowell2632 yes

[@eunahjang]

Same 😂😂😂

[@theadventador9815]

What if Boo disrupted the count by going back in time trying to find Sully?

[@EnerJetix]

I like that idea.

[@thespacesisters2031]

*G A S P* Yessss!

[@SphicyBandit]

YASSSS

[@dolenore]

The problem with that one is the timing. Boo seems to live in a rather modern era, likely the same range of decades as Soul. Boo going back in time would disrupt the count at the point she travelled, not the point she arrived.

[@theadventador9815]

@@dolenore But if she died in the past, wouldn’t the Great Beyond still count that in the current time of Brave and mess things up?

[@beslanderin5229]

I like Seamus's theory that Joe didn't really die. The Jerry's took his soul out so he could mentor 22. Which is why they allowed him to live again.

[@ArtDrawnByNic]

I believe the creators said that the count being off originally was a joke referring to Rasputin.

[@Colinop]

that guy really never died

[@randomgirlrandomthings8573]

Nobody. Not anyone. Me: RA RA RUSPUTIN THE GREATEST LOVER OF THE QUEEN!

[@njay4399]

Isn't that the Russian guy who worked for Czar

[@mrspiffy8587]

@@njay4399 BUT THE KAZACHOK HE DANCED REALLY WUNDERBAR!

[@yohanesfeta6801]

i wonder how mad terry was back then

[@wavelength0123]

What about Boo? She could have lived after Joe, which would throw off the count when she dies, but she'd die in the Dark Ages. She would die before she was born, a soul, that hadn't even jumped.

[@MrTony-rx7tk]

So does this mean that Terry went after Wall•e like she did Joe after he was resurrected by Eva?

[@aje8790]

Nah... the Jerries helped him too

[@talhazubair4124]

Terry is not a girl terry does not have a gender

[@aje8790]

@@talhazubair4124 I mean you’re right but he obviously has a male voice and demeanor. Are you going to also tell people to stop calling Wall e a he?

[@MrTony-rx7tk]

@@aje8790 It’s so surprising to me that so many people think Terry is meant to evoke a boy. She is voiced by a woman who doesn’t alter her voice in any way for the role

[@aje8790]

@@MrTony-rx7tk Terry has a maleish shape and stuff while the Jerries have more of a female shape.

[@allisonspears5895]

Before Ben ruled out 'The Good Dinosaur', I was thinking that maybe the lack of a dinosaur extinction in this universe would have thrown off the count (but I get why Ben ruled it out).

[@Layforce88]

did you know: Middle child appreciation day was yesterday, but as always no one remembered :(

[@mrspiffy8587]

As a middle child, this hurts

[@njay4399]

*As the oldest child, this strengthens me*

[@InvaltidWord]

As the youngest child, no comment.

[@Layforce88]

@@mrspiffy8587 I feel you pain brother

[@Layforce88]

@@njay4399 typical

[@artxme5877]

“Classic oldest child move, so entitled” “Hey!” “I’m the middle child I have it worse” *Me screaming in middle child * 😂😭

[@allisonromano235]

Me too. I’m also the middle child of the middle children

[@stellabrown2590]

Also a middle child here

[@ITZ.URGIRLNIMA]

If I'm older of two siblings... is my brother an older child?

[@ceeceehart5416]

Me to

[@floweytheflower4869]

I AM FIRST CHILD *THINKS IN OLDEST SMART CHILD*

[@stoneybologna2468]

“Guys, before we..” *skip* *skip* *skip* “Slash SCB”

[@sophietordoir6836]

I normally don’t do this but better help really is not what is says it is so this time yeah I did too.

[@franzibionda248]

Me, every time 😂

[@lucidfangirl1030]

I scroll through the comments while he drones on

[@dreameaterarts2946]

I did the same

[@justinelawrence2613]

I think that because Joe was in the zone right before he died, it made it easier for him to break through the barrier. A lot of people have probably tried to get out of the great beyond, but I think Joe was able to because of his association with the zone.

[@IronKnuckleKO]

Additional theory: Darth Plagueis the Wise threw off the count. (I made a woopsie and forgot he couldn't save himself from death, even though he could save others with the force lol)

[@Sultan-qk3od]

This is the way.

[@TheTrueKingofKoopas]

He died though, "he could save others from death, but not himself" and all that, now what he to Darth Venamis on the other hand, yes that would throw the count off

[@IronKnuckleKO]

@@TheTrueKingofKoopas And I call myself a fan. That's what I get for eating while rewatching a video. lol

[@Lectrikfro]

Obviously it was Palpatine coming back to life

[@aunfubious]

I think that when joe falls through the manhole, he almost dies, but is still alive, and they accidentally put him in the great beyond conveyer. Because they wouldn't put him into the hospital if he died, so he is still just barely alive.

[@captainkirk400]

you....don't die until you go to the great beyond....

[@luvpugz6458]

I think the point was he was supposed to die. As he talks about in the video for Mordue, he was supposed to die but Joe changed his fate. At the time when Joe fell, he was rushed to the hospital because he was "dying" but he didn't actually die. Or, it simply is that Joe's fate was to actually help 22, so that she could become whomever she did (I personally like to believe she became either Ellie or Wall-E) and impact another change of events.

[@tannerlipoufski1219]

@@luvpugz6458 I do not think that is right. If that were the truth then someone who is saved from the brink would say there is a giant galaxy with a conveyer belt leading into it when they are brought back. I think Terry made a mistake and thought he was dead, this makes him an even dumber individual.

[@masterblaster7484]

I’ll bet that when Merida eventually dies Terry just starts practically worshipping her for finally correcting the count after it was off for so long.

[@sfx387]

"I'm the middle, I have it worse no matter what." ...I'm dying. No truer words!!

[@tato2090]

There is a literal person who AVOIDS DEATH in the Pixar Theory, and you chose Mordue? I mean the Witch is RIGHT THERE!

[@alexcottrell884]

Is Terry the only one who counts? If so who does the count when Terry's looking for Joe?

[@aarien_of_aurolyth]

Terry seems to be able to keep track of the count regardless of where they are. As long as they can pull up the conveyor belt and their abacuses (abacai?). And probably keeps counting while searching for Joe. Remember these are superior beings (for lack of a better term) and are seemingly capable of doing several things at a time.

[@Asian_Boi_242]

Terry

[@jostewart3192]

Yeah when Terry is talking to the Jerry’s they pull up the abacus and count as they talk

[@ashmon16]

its simple, there is multiple jerrys, so there is multiple terrys.

[@josemelicoff]

Joemama

[@thethreerailwayengines825]

I prefer Issac's theory that Boo disrupted the count by going back in time and dying centuries before she was supposed to, but this is still plausible. Maybe it was off twice at around the same time?

[@that1kidfayad279]

I love how he switches seats every couple of seconds 😂

[@22mx82]

So um are we just gonna ignore the dude in the ally when Terry ripped his soul out of him and he was traumatized?

[@hal-fling]

I feel bad for that guy ngl he was just chilling

[@SmlyBxbMlk]

:'D

[@moyai6618]

yeah

[@belletense3618]

Terry tells Jerry that is isn’t possible for the count to be off because that hasn’t happened in centuries...Implying that they discovered that mordue was turned into a bear and trapped alive on Earth by a witch (Boo) but died after the curse was lifted (crushed to death). Terry says it isn’t possible for the count to be off...like either it’s not possible because it’s been too soon since the last witchy incident...or because they know that during this time Boo is not a witch time-spacey traveler, but a little girl being scared by the monsters in her closet. And maybe the witch boo is dead already?

[@killernyancat8193]

According to the Pixar Theory, Monsters Inc takes place in the far future, not during Joe's time.

[@RicchmadeJay-p7z]

I don't go with the boo witch theory

[@killernyancat8193]

@@RicchmadeJay-p7z Why not, if you don't mind me asking?

[@RicchmadeJay-p7z]

@@killernyancat8193 i do not mind, but for starters a reason the witch or some might say boo might have sully as a statue is maybe due to the doors might beinh able to take you different places in time, maybe sometime after the movie they used a door and traveled to a certain place in time and the witch maybe spotted them and decided to make those sculptures for a reason and not because she is boo. I don't have much evidence on this theory however.

[@DanielWilliams-kz3le]

When I saw it first, I thought “so Jesus is canon in the Pixar theory?”

[@christopherhardesty-crouch1119]

Me too, to be honest

[@HBKnowItAll]

Theory: The “Angel” that told Mary Magdalene to tell the apostles to spread the word that Jesus was alive was Terry himself.

[@BelcarrigFarm]

Always has been

[@bedrockengine128]

Ben: “After Wall-E’s resurrection, for lack of a better word,” Me: Repair, reconstruction, revitalization,

[@thevoidismyhome7242]

Okay, so I had a massive brainfart at 1:30 and was like "The person the count was off for first was Harry Potter" and then remembered that's not a Pixar movie.

[@PhineasOyna]

It could be that guy who cheated death in Greek mythology. I think his name was Sisyphus

[@Chatterbox1237]

Yup

[@irelandrain7458]

I WAS LITERALLY JUST TELLING MY BROTHER THAT! Sisyphus cheated death so many times

[@Chatterbox1237]

@@irelandrain7458 actually only two,1) when he captured Thanatos 2)when he tricked Perséfone in letting him leave the underworld

[@FloppaDoesMusic]

YES! THANK YOU FOR THIS!!!!

[@irelandrain7458]

@@Chatterbox1237 oh yeah... eh!

[@IronKnuckleKO]

Voldemort threw the count off. Theory answered.

[@endslayer5133]

Harry did to kind of I think

[@IronKnuckleKO]

@@endslayer5133 Yeah. Shouldn't have left King's Cross after all.

[@Anonymoushomosapien23]

@@IronKnuckleKO how about Nicholas Flamel???

[@thatonenoob4638]

Well then so did Harry

[@themiddleones11]

Nope, it was Moldevort

[@ashiivx]

Terry: The count's off! Purple Guy: *looks back then looks away*

[@eviestevie176]

Man, I just had this feeling that it was going to be Flynn Rider. He dies, Rapunzel has some magic moment with a golden flower, and then Flynn comes back to life. Duuuuuude how is that not it!?!??!! Still good theory tho. I can get on board

[@isabellascott2512]

I like that idea, except that is Disney and this is Pixar.

[@queenrogue22]

The problem with that is that Tangled is Disney and not apart of the Pixar

[@eviestevie176]

@@isabellascott2512 riiiiiight. Lol silly me

[@eviestevie176]

@@isabellascott2512 riiiiiight. Lol silly me

[@njay4399]

riiiiight. Lol silly me

[@crowheadcane1723]

I just watched Soul today and am currently watching all you guys’ videos about it so this could not have come at a better time

[@Kookypanda2ajOfficial]

Im a christian and from my point of view it was jesus who disrupted the count. And it was confirmed by pixar themselves :D

[@cereal3162]

Wait actually? Where and when did they confirm it?

[@tgbluewolf]

Yeah I figured He was the obvious count-disruptor

[@valhersa29]

Where did they confirm that?

[@MrMrs.Hernandez]

Other possible characters are Meg from Hercules, Flynn Rider or mother Gothal from Tangled or Anna from frozen.

[@ignaciogonzalez2929]

Disney, not Pixar

[@harleydine9733]

what if the "count" is referring to souls entering the belt and going to the great beyond so if someone dies and enters the belt he adds 1 to the count, and after they leave to the great beyond he removes 1 but joe entered the belt and got off, so 1 was added but not removed

[@budgetbassin158]

You lead up to brave and just pulled the rug out from us when we were expecting boo

[@OrangeXAgent]

The soul could be Jesus, they had some saints so maybe they are making a reference to that. He rose from the dead that would throw off the count for sure.

[@everestcanyon5647]

Yes, when Mr. Mittens rode the escalator up to the Great Beyond, he met with StarClan who decided to give him his nine lives despite him not being Clan leader due to Joe taking his body out of a timely manner.

[@carolinepence7565]

Ha! That’s funny and it actually makes sense because ya know the escalator is in the stars so therefor the cats would probably meet Starclan, like Starclan is like the Cat Terry but decides who gets to come back to life