Who Really Had the 2nd Best Car in 2023?

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@Aldas001
@Aldas001 11 ай бұрын
Apologies if my voice sounds a little bit strange in this video, over the past week I've been ill and am still recovering, but I'm still pumping out that post season content 💪
@legvalmont
@legvalmont 11 ай бұрын
I wouldn't have pointed it out if you didn't say it. Respect. And thanks for the content. It was an entertaining exercise!
@victornava7830
@victornava7830 11 ай бұрын
Get well soon 🙏🏼
@Spartacus2772
@Spartacus2772 11 ай бұрын
I just wanna point out that i feel like Aston martin was faster in Australia, even lewis mentioned it on the post race confrence. Alonso was on Hamilton tail during most of the race but wasn't able to overtake because of dirty air. it was really close but astin had edge on race pace i think.
@emilekaram6094
@emilekaram6094 Ай бұрын
So which season Aldas do you think was better between 2004 and 2023 cause they were pretty similar. One very dominant car( although RB19 was more dominant than F2004) and 4 cars battling for P2 in the standings.
@sergioferrero46
@sergioferrero46 11 ай бұрын
For me, it's the SF-23. In qualifying, it was within a few tenths from the RB19 most of the times and even got 7 poles. In race pace, they were pretty inconsistent (just as McLaren, Aston and Mercedes) but they were the closest to actually beating RB (Vegas, Singapore, Monza)
@dylanburston7453
@dylanburston7453 11 ай бұрын
As a average, mercedes. Aston had a weak middle, Mclaren and Ferrari had weak starts. Mclaren had the most consistent and consecutive clear 2nd fastest car, and Ferrari had the greatest heights.
@greenfj1466
@greenfj1466 11 ай бұрын
To summarize it,ferrari had the highest highs but the lowest lows(After silverstone),Mercedes had good highs and more highs and less lows as compared to ferrari so it was faster,Mclaren consistently had highs and very rarely had lows(After silverstone).So mercedes was fastest,ferrari 2nd and mclaren very barely slower but tbh lando shouldve scored more but he is bad in quali
@florinherlea8376
@florinherlea8376 11 ай бұрын
Just imagine the SF-23 with zero tyre degradation problems holy shit
@sergioferrero46
@sergioferrero46 11 ай бұрын
@@florinherlea8376 Ferrari seem to have solved that problem mostly, but there are a lot of areas of improvement
@greenfj1466
@greenfj1466 11 ай бұрын
@@florinherlea8376 Rb was faster in quali aswell most of the time so it would be easily 2nd best but would never be anywhere near rb
@eternal_trashero
@eternal_trashero 11 ай бұрын
It was lots of peaks and valleys for the teams. McLaren and Aston Martin are peak examples of this.
@mrw1783
@mrw1783 11 ай бұрын
To be fair, McLaren was on an upward trajectory after Austria as they finally found what was holding their car back. Aston took a nose dive. Both have learned valuable lessons, which hopefully will make for excellent racing next season.
@Alakhazam
@Alakhazam 11 ай бұрын
@@mrw1783 i 100% agree with you, Mclaren under Stella, did understand what were the strengths and weaknesses of their car (aerodynamic efficiency couldn't solve it tho) and make an agressive development program, Aston did hit a bump, but the last 3 races teach them the right direction (hopefully) and i hope they can be in the vanguard of the development race, or at least be close to the leaders.
@mrw1783
@mrw1783 11 ай бұрын
@Alakhazam it's like you read my mind. I think the future is bright under Stella. I think Aston has a bright future, especially with Honda engines. Mercedes need to up their engine game.
@dylanburston7453
@dylanburston7453 11 ай бұрын
@@mrw1783 They knew what was holding them back from the start. They were already desighning/producing the Austria/Silverstone upgrade pre season
@Alakhazam
@Alakhazam 11 ай бұрын
@@mrw1783 since they're ditching zero pod concept that can bring an more conventional cooling to Mercedes Engines, thus can run on a higher power output, Zero pod did compromize their engine a bit, so hopefully not an high horsepower gain, but reliability in higher stress, so they can finally be more agressive with engine mapping.
@stefanrhys44
@stefanrhys44 11 ай бұрын
“Lack of development and Lance Stroll” lmao
@y_fam_goeglyd
@y_fam_goeglyd 11 ай бұрын
I forgot about him until then. 😂
@bullymaguire14
@bullymaguire14 11 ай бұрын
Oh now I get why Alonso said it was his one of the best season, Not only 2nd fastest car for least races(maybe 1 2 more) but most inconsistent of all and those two (zandvoort and Brazil) podiums are bcoz of his outperforming ability, truly one of a kind 🐐.
@caseyf14483
@caseyf14483 11 ай бұрын
That's what kept this season from being one of the worst in history, we DIDN'T KNOW who had the 2nd fastest car every race! That's the excitement we need for 1st!!!
@bloodlustaxe1500
@bloodlustaxe1500 11 ай бұрын
People try to hype the season up, but it was nowhere near a good one. I watch f1 since 2012 and in my opinion it was definetely in the top 3 worst seasons since then.
@zenthous9568
@zenthous9568 11 ай бұрын
@@bloodlustaxe1500he’s saying it was a nearly terrible season
@MohamedLamkhizni
@MohamedLamkhizni 11 ай бұрын
The worst in history 😂 why is it your favorite dont win anymore or he not the one dominant 😂pretty sure your favorite the one win dont said it
@bloodlustaxe1500
@bloodlustaxe1500 11 ай бұрын
@@MohamedLamkhizni I don't have a favourite driver only a favourite team, which is Ferrari. And even though they won a race i would still call this season one of the worst ones. While i would also call seasons where Ferrari didn't do as well as this year good ones, such as 2021, 2016, 2014, etc. Those things doesn't correlate, this season was just objectively one of the worst ever.
@kendrox0994
@kendrox0994 11 ай бұрын
I guess it really comes down to how subjective fans can be when we call a season good or not. I won’t say this is up there for best season ever, but damn I was entertained. I got to witness the setting of records I will probably never see for the rest of my life, broken. Absolutely wild races such as Zandvoort. As well as one of the craziest and everchanging fields bar P1. If you found this as one of the worst seasons ever, you’re probably focusing way too much on just the negatives instead of the season as a whole. I’d suggest NASCAR if you want to see someone new every other week.
@furkanalbayrak5129
@furkanalbayrak5129 11 ай бұрын
I would say Ferrari had the 2nd fastest car in Canada. They were actually very quick that weekend but bc they messed up quali they didnt finish as high as they should have
@san-joshuabarrett
@san-joshuabarrett 11 ай бұрын
This man is one of my Go-to channels for off/winter season F1 content.
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks 11 ай бұрын
I feel like no team between 2 and 5 had a consistently best car over the season. Rather at different points and different races, different cars performed and fell off. Averages though.. between Mercedes and Ferrari. Although for a ⅖ of the season it looked like Aston might have that locked in but that kinda fell away going into mid season. Ferrari looked closest to Red Bull on Saturday but not so much on Sunday for the first part of the season. Mercedes had more consistent race pace, especially on the harder compounds but besides front limited circuits, they weren't ever outstanding in that best of the rest battle. As Aston fell off, I feel like McLaren stepped up and really became 2nd fastest, with a stronger start they almost certainly would have been well clear of Mercedes and Ferrari. Doesn't paint the nicest picture for next season but, its interesting how performance evolved over the season.
@nitesh487
@nitesh487 11 ай бұрын
1AÀ
@psslg2467
@psslg2467 11 ай бұрын
Looking back at this season analysis, Alonso's P4 in the driver's championship with only the 5th best car overall is truly amazing, on pair with his 2012 season. Another thing to point out is that every team (despite Red Bull) had it's fair share of highs and lows during the calendar, but neither Ferrari or Mercedes had a quite "bad" low as the Aston.
@GameOver-nm2us
@GameOver-nm2us 11 ай бұрын
alright mate hold your horses, for him to match his 2012 season he should've not only challenged Redbull and Max, but also went into the final race having a genuine chance in winning the championship, no one will ever match his 2012 season ever
@isaacm2374
@isaacm2374 11 ай бұрын
The Alonso PR campaign is strong.
@F-F01
@F-F01 11 ай бұрын
I don’t think it’s in 2012 or 2014 level but it’s also great, it also must be said that when Alonso has the second best car (first 6-7 races of the season) checo was performing at a good level which meant Alonso could max get p3 (except for Monaco, which is when checo started underperforming).
@patepulkkinenvtec2403
@patepulkkinenvtec2403 11 ай бұрын
Alonso was great this year, but I dunno, McLaren was not really that much faster. They were nowhere for the first 8 races.
@psslg2467
@psslg2467 11 ай бұрын
​@@patepulkkinenvtec2403 Agree. But still he finished ahead of both Ferraris and one Mercedes. And Aston was quite trash on some races too. Take the US and Mexico GPs for example.
@nathanweiss5174
@nathanweiss5174 11 ай бұрын
Mercedes had the 3rd best car basically all year long, while the others took turns being 2nd best... making Mercedes the 2nd best I guess
@KayJblue
@KayJblue 11 ай бұрын
Exactly how I feel. If you average out where each car was every race I think Mercedes comes out on top.
@ihsanjayadi88
@ihsanjayadi88 11 ай бұрын
How much is that down to the drivers? I believe Alonso fans would shout endlessly that it's the driver that made the difference if Alonso was the one that put that Mercedes in P3
@nathanweiss5174
@nathanweiss5174 11 ай бұрын
@@ihsanjayadi88 Tough to make the case for driver skill over car this year, as the car upgrades made such drastic changes in the 2-5 teams... of which are considered among those best drivers, and also L. Stroll is there.
@patepulkkinenvtec2403
@patepulkkinenvtec2403 11 ай бұрын
Finally someone said this. Being the 2nd fastest team during a full season isn't just about having the 2nd fastest car for the most races, it's about making sure your car won't be Q1 exit material for multiple races.
@barbonson_richards
@barbonson_richards 11 ай бұрын
@@ihsanjayadi88 not very much, hamilton and russell weren't that good this year. Least not compared to alonso, norris and ferrari boys.
@profot3
@profot3 11 ай бұрын
Aston Martin: Rounds 1-3, 5-6, 8 (6 races) Mercedes: Rounds 7, 18-19 (3 races) McLaren: Rounds 10, 11, 13, 16-17, 20 (6 races) Ferrari: Rounds 4, 9, 12, 14-15, 21-22 (7 races) Edit: Round 3 is a difficult one to judge, the Mercedes drivers did an excellent job in qualifying, but Aston (mainly Alonso) had similar pace in the race and if the track helped in terms of racing, it would be interesting to see what Fernando could do in the clear air. In the end, no matter if you say Mercedes or Aston is pretty much understandable and not out of logic
@MohamedLamkhizni
@MohamedLamkhizni 11 ай бұрын
So mersedes in the thid round in australia not in your mind 😂
@profot3
@profot3 11 ай бұрын
@user-wy5xe6ht2m I'm an Alonso fan, and yes Round 3 is debatable, they were close to each other that's for sure, maybe equal, but track position was important in this race, that's why Fernando couldn't pass Hamilton over the race distance. Qualy was crucial
@Robalexe
@Robalexe 11 ай бұрын
You're delusional if you think Mercedes weren't 2nd quickest in Australia
@mertcanhacfazloglu4862
@mertcanhacfazloglu4862 11 ай бұрын
Round 2 is Mercedes. Aston 5, Mercedes 4
@profot3
@profot3 11 ай бұрын
@Robalexe Fernando himself admitted that Aston was probably quicker in the race in the post race conference, I guess he is delusional too...
@batman5802
@batman5802 11 ай бұрын
A video on the number of points Leclerc lost because of bad luck this season (reliability, strategy issues, etc). Please.
@Duval-In-The-Wall
@Duval-In-The-Wall 11 ай бұрын
Oh my god there were SO MANY of these ffs
@glenrobinson10
@glenrobinson10 11 ай бұрын
This video really highlights just how impressive Lando getting the second most points since Austria is. As soon as he got the car, his Sundays were phenomenal.
@Allblue1
@Allblue1 11 ай бұрын
Think it is a bit overrated Alonso run of podiums are just as impressive
@stupidmemes3955
@stupidmemes3955 11 ай бұрын
@@Allblue1 its not overrated at all. its just looked at like another mclaren podium. alonso was definitely the most loved driver of the season after max
@Allblue1
@Allblue1 11 ай бұрын
@@stupidmemes3955 fair but lando was putting the car were it was supposed to be. p2 ferrari or merc weren't as quick
@stupidmemes3955
@stupidmemes3955 11 ай бұрын
@@Allblue1 thats fair
@greenfj1466
@greenfj1466 11 ай бұрын
​@@stupidmemes3955Lando was good but he also missed out on many good opportunities like mexico,Qatar and Abu dhabi because of his quali mistakes,interms of race pace he is good but its unclear since he has no great teammate to be compared with
@dgomes265
@dgomes265 11 ай бұрын
Without doing any analyst and ahead of viewing, would think that Mercedes was consistent across the season. Where McLaren or AM had their parts of the season.
@greenfj1466
@greenfj1466 11 ай бұрын
​​@@gameofender4463Sure russel getting p6 while lewis got p2 in mexico was"maximising"Russel crashing out in singapore and lewis crashing out in Qatar was"maximising".Russel and Lewis so commonly being knocked out in Q2 and russel Q3 in hungary was "Maximising".Get real its only because ferrari had so many reliability issues and prioritised carlos with the car and not leclerc
@greenfj1466
@greenfj1466 11 ай бұрын
​@@gameofender4463And if Russel really was maximising he wouldnt have finished 60 points behind hamilton.Apart from Australia all of russels retirements were his fault and he even threw away an easy p3 in Vegas so im not sure this is "maximising" bud but remembering you from many other comment sections simping for russel and mercedes im sure you would say otherwise
@marisasob
@marisasob 11 ай бұрын
It's also interesting to mention that aston did not expect to perform at this level this season, so I'm really interested how they will perform with their new factory and windtunnel in 2024
@mariano1428
@mariano1428 11 ай бұрын
Mercedes was the one that was always there in the top 6/8 (I think Ferrari had a couple more weekends where they just weren´t good enough), McLaren and Aston Martin were the ones that were the 2nd best team more weekends than the rest, and Ferrari was the one that could fight RB closer in the tracks it suited them. All in all I think the order is okay as it is, maybe AM should´ve been 4th (had Stroll been more competent)
@Juauvitur
@Juauvitur 11 ай бұрын
Man, I'm a Max fan but what a season it could be without Redbull
@dianamaioru497
@dianamaioru497 11 ай бұрын
This to me shows that Lewis had an underrated season outperforming that Mercedes to get that P3 in the WDC and getting so close to P2 against Checo in that OP RedBull car. It's absolutely spectacular form- CARRIED the team tbh. Really impressed! 💪🐐
@dylanburston7453
@dylanburston7453 11 ай бұрын
He was the only one in the top 10 who had a 2nd fastest (or very close to it) car for the entire season, excpet checo and russel (who were both shit) Ferrari were ok in Bahrain, but were crap after lap 5 of races 2-9. AM were shit from races 9-18 and Mclaren were nowhere from race 1-9/10 (Norris/Piastri). Everyone else had 10 races of having to drive a mid car, excpet Merc and RB. And if we factor in Charles Bahrain DNF and Brazil DNS, he easily finished ahead of Lewis
@oussamabendakir1453
@oussamabendakir1453 11 ай бұрын
Alonso had 2 more podiums and scored most of his team's points while his car was shit in multiple races where the Mercedes was only bad at interlagos
@greenfj1466
@greenfj1466 11 ай бұрын
I think leclerc was better than ham interms of pace and consistency,Leclercs only mistakes were in Quali but hamilton still failed to make it in Q3 as much,Interms of races ham has also crashed more and is only ahead to due the mountain of retirements,sacrifices,pit issues and bad strategy leclerc had,even the dsq and dns of leclerc were enough for him to be ahead of ham
@Crukren89
@Crukren89 11 ай бұрын
​@@oussamabendakir1453yep thats why in many ways Lewis's season is overated. If Alonso was in that merc he would of done a better job than Lewis
@oussamabendakir1453
@oussamabendakir1453 11 ай бұрын
@@Crukren89 i wouldn't say overrated but he just did what the car allowed nothing more nothing less
@BK_Daniels
@BK_Daniels 11 ай бұрын
Great video Hopefully you do one for drivers
@sanjayduff71
@sanjayduff71 10 ай бұрын
Looking at it like this actually makes this year sound quite interesting
@DonLee1980
@DonLee1980 11 ай бұрын
Ironically, I would say the opposite. Aston Martin failed because they tried to hard and quickly to develop the car that they didn't understand well enough (lets be honest, it's just a redbull copy and they don't know why it works, but it does). Had they not tried to "develop" themselves, they would have finished 2nd in the constructors. Alonso's Q3 laps in Austin and Suzuka, were both slower that Vettel's of last year. That speaks volumes of how much slower the car got and how many points they threw away.
@mathewhosier9739
@mathewhosier9739 11 ай бұрын
While Ferrari, McLaren and even Aston Martin all had tracks where they were faster than Mercedes, I think when you look at 2023 as a whole Mercedes had a slight edge over even Ferrari
@LpARTURO
@LpARTURO 11 ай бұрын
Exactly what i was thinking. Ferrari needa to address its poor quality parta issues ASAP, is not only that they ended up 3rd when cleaely they should ended up 2nd, but also that in this season imo, both of they driver actually grown stronger and yet they failled to give them a constant car.
@ForzaPolska06
@ForzaPolska06 11 ай бұрын
I generally agree There are some close ones like Baku that i'm not sure about but there are only 2 i would disagree a bit more (Canada and Abu Dhabi)
@Rocky712_
@Rocky712_ 11 ай бұрын
The simple fact we had 4 different teams being fastest after RB shows how well the 2022 regs and the budget cap are working. My highlight is definitely Alonso. P4 in that car... he extracted basically every point possible.
@Duval-In-The-Wall
@Duval-In-The-Wall 11 ай бұрын
Not really. Fucked up in Spain, Austria, Singapore, Mexico,and Vegas Easy with the hyperbole
@fin-ed6oj
@fin-ed6oj 8 ай бұрын
The fact that 4 teams all fought for 2nd fastest saved Sergio Perez's career. If the 2nd fastest car had been Mercedes or Ferrari consistently, then there's no way he'd have finished 2nd in the drivers' championship. He almost lost out to Lewis despite the fact that Mercedes were probably 3rd fastest overall and had a number of races where they were 4th or 5th fastest
@Uzair_Of_Babylon465
@Uzair_Of_Babylon465 11 ай бұрын
great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍
@AKJord
@AKJord 11 ай бұрын
Merc start of season, mclaren silverstone-singapore, ferrari Singapore onwards.
@ht-lg2wm
@ht-lg2wm 11 ай бұрын
I feel like that reliability should be counted against the car. RedBull never had reliability issues; poor results only came from poor driving or damage (and they simply didn't have pace in Singapore). If two cars are near each other in pace then the one with better reliability will do better overall and consequently the better car.
@yugrajnegi2783
@yugrajnegi2783 11 ай бұрын
Thats a really good question for this season
@victornava7830
@victornava7830 11 ай бұрын
I agree with this great analysis 🙌🏻, it would have been great to see Ferrari as the second place 🥈 in constructor’s championship but I believe Mercedes was more consistent at that’s what make the difference at the end Greetings from Mexico 🇲🇽 and keep the great videos 👍🏻
@patepulkkinenvtec2403
@patepulkkinenvtec2403 11 ай бұрын
The FIA made the difference in the final two races with their bs favouritism towards Mercedes.
@victornava7830
@victornava7830 11 ай бұрын
@@patepulkkinenvtec2403 I can’t assure that but it’s totally possible, I hope Ferrari can be second next year 🙏🏼
@andrewsimmons323
@andrewsimmons323 11 ай бұрын
Overall, Id say looking at the whole season Ferrari-Merc-Mcl-Aston. Reliability and track caused accidents cost Ferrari most. Sainz wouldve bagged good points in both races if not for the drain cover and the bump they tried to hide and shaved it down
@danieloyewande4632
@danieloyewande4632 11 ай бұрын
Brother said for Aston "A lack of development and LANCE STROLL"
@sebastiantadic6383
@sebastiantadic6383 11 ай бұрын
Ferrari - Azerbaijan, Austria, Belgium, Italy, Singapore, Las Vegas, Abu Dhabi (7 races) Aston Martin - Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Miami, Monaco, Canada, Netherlands (6 races) Mercedes - Australia, Spain, Hungary, USA (Cota), Mexico (5 races) Mclaren - Great Britain, Japan, Qatar, Brazil (4 races) This is only in terms of race pace.
@johnlau6749
@johnlau6749 11 ай бұрын
Don't forget Aston already dropped off since Austria
@paw565
@paw565 11 ай бұрын
It just shows how good Fernando is.
@daniellemieux1911
@daniellemieux1911 11 ай бұрын
It went Aston at the start of the year then Ferrari then merc then McLaren and back to Ferrari
@dpot2231
@dpot2231 11 ай бұрын
I agree. Ferrari should of finished 2nd overall but had extremely bad luck at times. Not to mention they were the only other team to win and they did it on pace rather than luck. Their drivers finished 2-3 in the quali standings proving that overall it had pace, just too hard on its tyres at points
@stevenst6337
@stevenst6337 11 ай бұрын
Very tough one to judge who was second best, do we go off of who was fastest at the end of the season? Or maybe who was consistently 2nd best? Aston Martin, Mclaren, Mercedes, and Ferarri all had their moment of second best car, I think it would be between Ferarri and Mclaren personally towards end of the season once all development was said and done. Mostly depended on track who was the 2nd best imo.
@valecasini
@valecasini 11 ай бұрын
8:59 lol what was that attempt to an Italian accent? :P Anyway Ferrari all the year was memes but in the end it was very good but it had a lot of bad luck, reliability problems and a little bit of a slow start (the car at the start of the season was good only for one race)
@Alsael
@Alsael 11 ай бұрын
Mercedes was the FASTEST car in Singapore. Hamilton qualified very low on saturday and Russell was slow on sunday. They should have won that race
@johnlau6749
@johnlau6749 11 ай бұрын
Russell crashed in Singapore tho. If George not making silly errors, incidents, etc. Merc easily 2nd place
@AutoCAD681
@AutoCAD681 11 ай бұрын
For me it highlights how constant is Max compared to all his reveals
@johnnychimpo7539
@johnnychimpo7539 11 ай бұрын
Man lewis has proved himself time and time again, how in the world do people talk shit
@Crukren89
@Crukren89 11 ай бұрын
Because people think hes a prick in all honesty. As most of the F1 audience are white him being black generally pisses people off 😂 he has dreads. Tats. Piercings etc F1 fans cant take him seriously because he looks like a soundcloud rapper lol
@nice900
@nice900 11 ай бұрын
did you actually watch the video?
@johnnychimpo7539
@johnnychimpo7539 11 ай бұрын
@@Crukren89 he looks nothing like a SoundCloud rapper. That was one of the dumber things I’ve heard today. Nicee
@johnnychimpo7539
@johnnychimpo7539 11 ай бұрын
@@nice900 yes dummy and I see the stuff you comment. You remind me of a Lebron fan. You’ll ramble all day about your opinion, thinking people should listen to you cuz you know something
@mindujiman
@mindujiman 11 ай бұрын
At the beggining: Aston Martin (just in Alonso's hands) At the end: Ferrari Overall the season due consistency: Mercedes At certain races: McLaren In my opinion I would say Mercedes was the 2nd best overall, and the championship finished just like it should... With Ferrari being the 4th car at the beggining and catching up, McLaren also catching up after being one of the worst teams to be at certain points the 2nd faster, and Aston Martin downfaling at the end, when only Alonso could extract more than the car was capable.
@jrrosberg9324
@jrrosberg9324 11 ай бұрын
That's fair you got it right
@liukin95
@liukin95 11 ай бұрын
We can't fault Max & Red Bull for putting on a dominant season like they have this year, they've done a great job. It's up to the other teams to build a car that can beat Red Bull and the drivers to me brave enough to get their elbows out against Max who we know pushes the rule book to its absolute limits with his antics.
@barbonson_richards
@barbonson_richards 11 ай бұрын
Over the entire season it's 100% merc, funny thing is I stuggle to think of individual races where they were 2nd on car performance.
@DabDabGoose
@DabDabGoose 11 ай бұрын
I think from the second half of the season the Mclaren was the 2nd best car, i think huge points were lost on bad strategy at Netherlands specifically that could have changed a bit, but the Ferrari overall would be 2nd.
@grimm6jack
@grimm6jack 9 ай бұрын
If we average out how each car performed across all 22 tracks, the Mercedes was actually the better car (2nd best) because it was consistently 3rd best, only a few times it was 2nd best, but the other teams were either 2nd or 4th and 5th best or sometimes even below that like McLaren and Aston who basically swapped positions at one point in being at the top of the grid and bottom. Leclerc had a lot of bad luck this season as well with... guess guess... strategies and reliability. Right from the bat, a 3rd place finish into a DNF in Bahrain xD. And then had an engine penalty in the 2nd race... and a few more shenanigans across the season. Dude can't catch a break. BTW I count realibility as part of the car package. Since if a car can't finish, then it's not worth much the performance. Mercedes had pretty good reliability all year long aside from Russel at one point in Australia I think. So yeah, it's only fitting that they finished the season in 2nd on the constructors.
@Jaspernuxoll
@Jaspernuxoll 10 ай бұрын
Can you do this with other years as well like 2018 or 2012 see who was the fastest car in that years
@ShakAKA12
@ShakAKA12 11 ай бұрын
Aldas you need to watch the races a bit closer cause imo Ferrari were quicker than merc and Aston in Canada and also lando bottled pole in Abu Dhabi and the race for me merc had the second best car you need to look the lows for Ferrari when it came to the race
@emilekaram6094
@emilekaram6094 Ай бұрын
Plz do one for the 2004 season when also 4 teams battled for P2.
@enricobonizzi6980
@enricobonizzi6980 11 ай бұрын
In Qatar MaLaren was the second best car? 😂 Awesome video as always, keep it up!
@KrisoVT
@KrisoVT 11 ай бұрын
Singapore was easily Mercedess fastest (not 2nd fastest, but actual fastest). They had enough pace to win with more than 10s ahead of Sainz, but that wall he made with Lando was enough to keep them behind.
@Robalexe
@Robalexe 11 ай бұрын
They would've never won had they not gone on the softs at the end and gone full push. You can't take that as fact that they were quicker than Ferrari who were on much worse tyres at that point. Had Ferrari also pitted for softs, Sainz would've still won. Had none of them done that bonus pit stop, Sainz would've still won.
@Alsael
@Alsael 11 ай бұрын
@@Robalexe nah, Hamilton should've won with his pace in the end but he didn't because he qualified terribly
@cseland
@cseland 11 ай бұрын
Interesting video as usual but why do you pronounce it as “astin” instead of aston (martin) ?
@apophisstr6719
@apophisstr6719 11 ай бұрын
It's definitely the Ferrari, in terms of consistency of outright raw pace (at least in quali) against the RBR they're definitely the closest, they're even faster in some situations. Where for Merc, McLaren and Aston, they're way too track-oriented, literally like a rollercoaster ride for the entire season.
@nice900
@nice900 11 ай бұрын
yeah but in terms of how good a car is over a season reliability is without a doubt more important than quali pace
@greenfj1466
@greenfj1466 11 ай бұрын
I think if ferrari gave leclerc a proper car like he had since suzuka the entirety of the season he would've gotten over 300 points and without all the bad luck he woulve gotten 350+ points so even tho now i am convinced ferrari and mercedes were almost equal or ferrari was a little fastest,Its ferrari's fault for prioritising Carlos over leclerc in the first place
@shariq_s21
@shariq_s21 11 ай бұрын
In the end there’s no definitive answer since Mercedes, Aston, Ferrari and McLaren were all the second fastest car in different points of the season. It made the fight for p2-5 interesting, and it’s essentially just what we are missing as a fight for p1. Credit to Redbull tho, they have been on it.
@ihsanjayadi88
@ihsanjayadi88 11 ай бұрын
I think one of the main reason people were so hesitant to think that the second fastest car is anything other than the Mercedes is because that it would inadvertently give too much credit to Hamilton for putting it in P3. Discrediting him at every possible chance is very popular nowadays. If Alonso was the one that put the W14 in P3, everyone would instantly assume it's Alonso that made the difference and the W14 was actually the 6th fastest car.
@Lamlerongy
@Lamlerongy 11 ай бұрын
i thought it was the 4th fastest most of the time tbh lol
@nice900
@nice900 11 ай бұрын
hamilton made more mistakes over the season compared to alonso yet still put himself p3 by a comfortable margin, doesn't that tell you all you need to know
@patepulkkinenvtec2403
@patepulkkinenvtec2403 11 ай бұрын
Let me guess, you think that Aston was the 2nd fastest car and Mercedes was some slow backmarker 😂. Just face it, Mercedes was 2nd best no matter how much you wanna deny it.
@Duval-In-The-Wall
@Duval-In-The-Wall 11 ай бұрын
Hamilton wasn’t great, his qualifying was all over the place, and he made plenty of errors, especially later in the season Idk why Alonso has such positive PR though, think it’s because he has a useless teammate
@nice900
@nice900 11 ай бұрын
@sidharthtirkey44 if you think owning f1 tv pro is A a flex and B relevant to what I said then you are in need of help
@brouwah
@brouwah 11 ай бұрын
I think it's Checo's car 😜
@5950ziel
@5950ziel 11 ай бұрын
1:42 Yes, Leclerc was 11 seconds ahead of Alonso but let's not forget that Alonso almost got killed by the GOAT named Stroll and lost 2 positions to Mercedes and had to fight hard to get them back, hence losing time.
@Max_Flashheart
@Max_Flashheart 11 ай бұрын
Cars passed on track would be a good indicator also
@jamesbishop9450
@jamesbishop9450 11 ай бұрын
I honestly think that ferrari were the 2nd fastest in bith CoTA and Mexico as whilst Lewis got P2 in both, George was behind both ferraris and a McLaren.
@CapoCrypto4live
@CapoCrypto4live 11 ай бұрын
Aldas, love your content brother and thanks for all you do. Can't wait for next year. Big Ferrari Fan.
@atmoz_
@atmoz_ 11 ай бұрын
I think to make a good overview think you need to check more who is having the best car. You can have a ton of 2nd fastest (3rd in real) that would add up. That's to me it really just between Mercedes and Ferrari. If I may judge, I think Ferrari had the better pairing of the top 5 and Mercedes the second best car (so second after RBR).
@mewtwo.150
@mewtwo.150 11 ай бұрын
Ferrari was 2nd but Alonso is Alonso and put Aston above Ferrari
@AlexFernando1996
@AlexFernando1996 11 ай бұрын
I agree with all things in video
@oulu841
@oulu841 10 ай бұрын
looking at this makes lewis finishing p3 in the wdc even crazier
@19megamustaine85
@19megamustaine85 10 ай бұрын
Hope that aston martin will stay there next season.
@toby_goodenough
@toby_goodenough 11 ай бұрын
I would actually say merc were probably fastest at zandvoort as I’m pretty sure Hamilton was matching verstappens pace and actually overtook Norris after being behind him after lap 1
@ihsanjayadi88
@ihsanjayadi88 11 ай бұрын
nah Merc was way off
@Jimmy-zq3wp
@Jimmy-zq3wp 11 ай бұрын
Aston Martin or Alonso? 💀
@staticflix1460
@staticflix1460 11 ай бұрын
this would have been one of the greatest title fights if redbull wasnt so dominant
@lyric5922
@lyric5922 11 ай бұрын
mercedes basically had the 3rd best car for almost all races in comparison to ferrari mclaren and am having the 2nd best or the 4th/5th best so if you average it out mercedes were the most consistent
@emiliovillacorta4276
@emiliovillacorta4276 11 ай бұрын
Mercedes got P2 due to their consistency (consistently 3rd best car). They had the 2nd best car in about two races, and the 4th best in a couple others. I think McLaren and Aston Martin had the highest peaks, but Ferrari was consistently the 2nd best car.
@0megalul309
@0megalul309 11 ай бұрын
merc on average looked like it always had the second best race pace. Ferrari could contend for it but their strategy always blew it
@marcelosilva2495
@marcelosilva2495 11 ай бұрын
Short answer: Mercedes Long answer: Definitely Mercedes
@d9zirable
@d9zirable 11 ай бұрын
6:47 MaLaren
@Duval-In-The-Wall
@Duval-In-The-Wall 11 ай бұрын
Mercedes were faster in Qatar it’s just that Hamilton fucked it for them in T1
@CozyRodent
@CozyRodent 11 ай бұрын
nah. And it's stupid not having in count how they were the races that weren't second. Aston had a lot of races bieng 5th even lower, Mclaren too, Ferrar were 2 or 4 constabtly but Mercedes 2 or 3 thats why on average scored more points despide the DNFs...
@chicker5497
@chicker5497 11 ай бұрын
I think Ferrari had the second fastest car cuz on there day they were literally red bull fast (Singapore and Vegas) and they were the only team to get a win (except red bull)
@camf7522
@camf7522 11 ай бұрын
By the end of the season, I would suggest McLaren. At the beginning of the season Ferrari.
@miker7920
@miker7920 11 ай бұрын
The mercedes car was good, the drivers and mechanics just failed badly on sprint weekends. Along with Hamilton's rookie move in Qatar and George binning it at Canada and Singapore it was objectively the 2nd best car throughout the entire season. Because McLaren was horrible at the start, Aston was only good early on and Ferrari was also very slow until later on.
@samudrasyarif6828
@samudrasyarif6828 11 ай бұрын
the number 2 fastest car is McLaren, Number 3 is Ferrari, Number 4 is Mercedes, Number is 5 Aston Martin. We must Ignore McLaren first season problem when they couldn't score point because reight heigh force them to build the car again and brake hot problem after the problem fix they score better than other team, Ferrari is Number 3 because the problem is her own driver and team the car is good, number 4 is Mercedes the car already max cant go beyond like revious Mercedes Power Unit era Dominant all team now close battle, Aston martin number 5 because he can build the car but still cant improve her car and her 1 driver Lance still not top tier driver who can fight title
@enzogravio5412
@enzogravio5412 11 ай бұрын
Mercedes was generally 3rd best, sometimes 2nd, the others were faster sometimes but too inconsistent
@kwanlinus6999
@kwanlinus6999 11 ай бұрын
Mercedes vs Ferrari: Two Idiots Fighting 😊
@ezekielpayne5135
@ezekielpayne5135 11 ай бұрын
6:46 "Malaren" Mclaren**
@CF_Racing
@CF_Racing 11 ай бұрын
Ferrari is more of Leclerc over driving the wheels off that car rather then then being second fastest
@erikbeijleveld3636
@erikbeijleveld3636 10 ай бұрын
Hamilton did a great job in 2023. Battled for 2nd in the championship with that merc that never was better then the no. 3 car. Hopefully 2024 Merc delivers and we have some competition again.
@AugmentedGravity
@AugmentedGravity 11 ай бұрын
Atleast 3 teams
@raeeznjr
@raeeznjr 11 ай бұрын
Aston was the 2nd slowest car as well on multiple weekends 😂
@MohamedLamkhizni
@MohamedLamkhizni 11 ай бұрын
For me i said it perez the result he did and max way dominant the season and the huge gap betwen them in the same car he made it look like he drive in different team and different car 😂
@zestylem0n
@zestylem0n 11 ай бұрын
If you remove max, the red bull isnt noticeably the best car lol, checo wins in the penultimate race.
@greenfj1466
@greenfj1466 11 ай бұрын
Checo was just that bad,he cant adapt to this car at all but he is a good 2nd when the car isnt 100%for max verstappen
@jessystam9922
@jessystam9922 11 ай бұрын
Its not really accurate, SF-23 is very quick in qualifying and mostly 2nd best while they are 4-5th best in the race.. however merc has the 4-5th best car in qualifying and mostly 2-3rd best car in the race.. ferrari had very big ups-and downs having 2nd best car at monza,baku, LVG but sometimes also being very midfield while merc was always quite competitive near the 2nd best racecar. I think ferrari was slightly better but the team made countless of mistakes while merc just had a couple
@ihsanjayadi88
@ihsanjayadi88 11 ай бұрын
No, the Ferrari is not that bad in race pace. In most of the time they did good in quali, they're also decent in race pace unlike the end of last year where Mercedes really do have race pace advantage. Ferrari should've been clear second fastest if they're not involved in as many incidents as they did
@BroScuttle
@BroScuttle 11 ай бұрын
It’s malaren! Haha 6:50 ish
@Hamilton8timeChampion
@Hamilton8timeChampion 11 ай бұрын
see aldas that is why you putting Lewis behind Fernando in your top 5 driver standings is dumb because he secured third place in the drivers in the 4th best car and secured Mercedes second in the constructors through his consistency despite again driving the 4th best car
@CozyRodent
@CozyRodent 11 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂nice cope
@bullymaguire14
@bullymaguire14 11 ай бұрын
Tf,by your logic Aston were 6th best car. Stfu and watch races, except Brazil (6 fastest) I don't think they had any big dip
@greenfj1466
@greenfj1466 11 ай бұрын
Cant put lewis that high if Both alonso and leclerc were better than him this season
@Hamilton8timeChampion
@Hamilton8timeChampion 11 ай бұрын
@@bullymaguire14 i didn't say aston were 6th best i didn't mention aston at all. i was talking purely about mercedes and how lewis secured p3 in the standings and single handily carried his team to 2nd depsite driving the 4th best car
@alexlacl8730
@alexlacl8730 11 ай бұрын
I think Ferrari had easily the 2nd fastest car and a strong one in qualifying they just did many mistakes on the first half. Mercedes was definitely the 3rd best car as they not good in qualifying and was consistently behind RB, Ferrari, Aston first half and Mclaren second half Mclaren since Silverstone was better than mercedes but nowhere before So I think Mclaren and Aston were similar 1. RB 2. FERRARI 3. MERCEDES 4. MCLAREN-AM
@rubens4318
@rubens4318 11 ай бұрын
The Red Bull was also the 2nd best car at 3 races...
@yrgkyt3372
@yrgkyt3372 11 ай бұрын
In abu dhabi certainly it was mercedes. Its arguable who was P3 between McLaren and Ferrari but P2 is clear Merc
@Serian-o1g
@Serian-o1g 11 ай бұрын
Ehm it depends on the tracks on my opinion and even if a team has 2nd fastest car it would be almost no advantage
@D3Vlicious
@D3Vlicious 11 ай бұрын
Isn't Aston more a case of wrong development, as the development path they went down made the car worse and reverting to an older spec got them their speed back?
@cameronpetie8318
@cameronpetie8318 11 ай бұрын
This is also why Perez still finished 2nd in the Championship.
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