WHO'S THE BEST COMMANDER FROM DUSKMOURN IN cEDH?

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[@jonnybirch2268]

I love how many times Cam almost said “Valgavoth” correctly, then corrected himself and said it wrong 😂

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

We’re trying our best here

[@jonnybirch2268]

@@PlaytoWinMTG and I think it’s great :)

[@Cha0sRising90]

I love it! Don't ever change, @PlaytoWinMTG

[@cobaltbeau]

Woah, Master of Keys putting Escape on Dress Down is really sick.

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Right???

[@hunterstrong3318]

​@@PlaytoWinMTG welcome to modern grixis shadow when lurrus wasnt banned

[@Temzilla2]

When I saw the card I said "ooh, you can recur mystic remora/dress down/solitary confinement/contamination"

[@issacharlane4003]

I think because of this interaction, this might end up being the strongest esper commander. So many creature/commander centric decks exist (thoracle). Having a way to at instant speed shut down all of that is bananas.

[@DonoGaming]

@@hunterstrong3318man, now i wish dress down was on arena 😭

[@havardharaldsen332]

The mutual "Hm." on the Dress Down. Perfect.

[@fakehotdog1634]

Pretty much each commander had their moment, really impressive that they can all perform so well at this power level!

[@7thCircleHobbies]

The dress down on the birds was both gross and a top level play lol. What a great game

[@rav5373]

Missed opportunity to call the Jolly Balloon deck "Squeaky-Jiki"

[@windy7820]

I'm a big fan of 'Freaky Jiki' myself

[@andrewcampbell2680]

I have been watching this channel for a while now, and one of things that I enjoy most about it (aside from the funny banter that the table almost always has) is how they add the little edits about how they miss played and what the actual outcome should have been if it was crucial game error. Hats off gents!

[@GA-ee1er]

Would love to see more Master of Keys, as I am keen on building it. Also, wow, that Valgavoth drew so many cards!

[@casperpedersen223]

God, I love watching you guys. You just always seem to be having a blast and it is so freaking wholesome.

[@tkmoosey4436]

Anyone else forget this wasnt a spell table game and get a little freaked out when Dylan reached across the playmats to count bane of progress... Just me... Okay.

[@wikipipo5465]

I'd love to see a casual episode featuring Rendmaw, Creaking Nest. He's definitely my favorite commander from the new set in terms of casual fun, and I'd love to see others trying to build around him.

[@jrclarke93]

Hakim Loreweaver + Treachery + Claws of Gix is the sauce for an infinite mana combo. You just need Borne upon a wind/Emergence Zone to cast your commander to win

[@Cha0sRising90]

Will is a great add to the episode! Good banter, politic-ing, and a good understanding of the deck imo. Great to have you on, Will 💜

[@DontYouFret]

This was a fantastic episode. A lot of interaction and cooo synergy. You guys are killing it.

[@stewat8]

Shoutout to my buddy Will, glad you got to be there dude!

[@TopdeckTech]

We need more hip hop classics with Cam and Dylan

[@dasfabelwesen]

Necromancy seems really cool in tyler's deck.

[@BadConAngel]

This game was great! I feel like everyone had a chance to show what their commander could do. I hope we can see some more Kona in the future!

[@kerithwooldridge]

This was a fantastic game. Love the dress down on the birds. Lmao

[@fenrir3103]

This video is the push I needed to go on with my Valgavoth deck. Thanks!

[@elisgillberg9002]

I love the balloon man and i hope there is meta deck with him in the future

[@BR4IN1N4J4R]

Squeaky Jiki is a joy to see operate. Definitely an interesting Boros combo deck

[@ljlk8583]

as much as these commanders didn't seem all that great in the set review, this was one of the coolest cedh games I've seen in a long time

[@michaelatbarnett]

The Kona into Bane of Progress was so cool! Worth the early exit 😂

[@Connor-iu5wk]

Hearing the phonk is epic

[@TPHHippo]

Wouldn't mind seeing a "Best Rakdos Commander Fall 2024" episode! Does Obby hold his place over Rakdos the Muscle, or Imskir, or this new boi???

[@GoldSabertooth]

Love it! Great brews. Wasnt sold on this set at first but been lowkey impressed

[@BabelTriumphant]

Great showcase of all 4 decks!

[@flashoxmtg]

Love the Phantom's Revenge shirt

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Best coaster in PA I think

[@eliotbrown5907]

IN PERSON RECORDING!!! LET'S GO!!!

[@bryanvincentbrocal1222]

i believe cam missed a draw trigger when fomo attacked tyler, and cam should've drawn another card when valgavoth attked will

[@AnarchoLoserist]

sound track as always on point

[@DrukenReaps]

Think we almost saw 'bolt the bird' in cEDH xD

[@erikstone8336]

I have a question. At 15:15, Will triggers both Valvagoths and Tyler says that Cam's trigger goes on the stack first. My question is: is it the time stamp that says whose trigger happens first or is it play order? Also I love how powerful Master of keys is in Tyler's deck! Great deck building Tyler!

[@basedmatt3459]

I’m putting JBM into my ghired mirror of the wilds deck. if you can hold JBM and Ghired and drop the new etb lizard or VBR you can go crazy.

[@CHoustonify]

I know this is probably wishful thinking, but I FEEL like Arabella might have something going on. On a lucky draw in casual I had a turn 3 win because of Ocelot Pride, and making a billion tokens seems like it might be trivial? I guess the issue is if you can make a billion tokens, you already won, and other commanders can facilitate that billion tokens better. Still, killing a table of Blue Farms and Nadus with a doll is so enticing.

[@briceannonier4327]

I appreciate your videos gang. They're cool.

[@matthewjohnson3656]

This music sounds like the music from Beltomatic

[@trollsmyfriend]

Am I mistaken in thinking Cam missed a few triggers of valgavoth from the attacks of the opponents?

[@robertomacetti7069]

Worth it! -dylan, probably

[@TripsAhoy]

Nice game. These commanders seem cool. ❤❤❤

[@farwen4967]

First of all: love your content just found you guys recently and im realy enjoying it so far. I would like to ask a question. is there a strategic reasoning for playing mox opal turn 1 despite it not being online or is it just a playpattern as it would virtually make no difference? Hope my english aint to bad greetings from a german fan.

[@wesleyvansteenburg9970]

I think it has to do with whether you expect your opponents to play a card that can get advantage from it. That doesn't apply here (as his opponents don't have rhystic/mystic), but it may just be habit for tyler. The only major con to doing that is it feeds dockside, but that can be fine. Giving your opponents cards might not be.

[@noahclay9020]

Plays around other players drawing into cards like Rhystic Study, Mystic Remora, Esper Sentinel, and other Stax cards. Plays into Dockside Extortionist but that is only one card versus many.

[@farwen4967]

That makes sense to me thanks for the insight guys:) in this specific scenario i cant help myself to think that it might be better to keep it as the other color dont have access to named cards appart from sentinel but that is my Personal Interpretation of optimal play and very nitpicky :D

[@xahhfink]

​@@farwen4967wheel of fortune might be another one that he wanted to play around, plus obviously esper sentinel and dauntless dismantler

[@definitelynotmany4972]

14:17 Tyler could have had a Broodlord combo there but, sadly, doesn’t play the combo.

[@eduardoamorim5041]

Cam, what are your thoughts aborto europapark? I think the new coaster, voltron, is awesome

[@D.K.M.Espers]

I might need to invest in a Master of Keys deck…

[@TrollVision01]

convoke actually counts as paying mana, you can convoke stuff with vexing bauble for example and it will not get countered

[@rinan5317]

Was about to comment this. Good catch.

[@exsnypre]

This isn't correct. The reminder text for Convoke is oversimplified. The actual rule for convoke specifies you're not paying mana ("rather than pay that mana"). Improvise has this same issue with it's reminder text too. "702.51a Convoke is a static ability that functions while the spell with convoke is on the stack. “Convoke” means “For each colored mana in this spell’s total cost, you may tap an untapped creature of that color you control rather than pay that mana. For each generic mana in this spell’s total cost, you may tap an untapped creature you control rather than pay that mana.”

[@TrollVision01]

@@exsnypre totally true, the Reminders and the gatherer are missleading in the way it is explained

[@rainbowdash2057]

Kona big!! Love it guys ❤

[@hunterstrong3318]

Lol attacks tyler for turning on blood chief. Immediately also blows up bloodchief

[@halvsketchy9293]

Oh wait valgavoth can draw 3 cards per (opponents) turn? I thought it only drew from the active players turn which would mean 3 per cycle. Guess it is a lot better than i thought

[@Dyinghistorymajor]

Ok, but I kinda love the Kona deck tho

[@twi1ightknight]

it says something that phimages best target was ValGaVOTH!

[@FlynHawaiian10]

Tyler, how come you didn’t necromancy the displacer kitten? Then flashback Teferi ??

[@FlynHawaiian10]

Like 14:40

[@Flip4Crypt]

Fuck, 666 likes, am I allowed to change this?!

[@SneakyAxe992]

This might be one of this first times, that I’ve seen, when playing a new set that it felt like all the commanders were viable. Half the time it seems that there’s one or two standouts and the rest are just kinda meh.

[@CommandCope]

did tyler not have infinite mana on his turn with displacer kitten??

[@zd-1249]

SpoOoOoOoky!

[@johndoetv488]

Shouldnt cam draw 2 off the ward trigger when his commander was targeted

[@theeggmaster101]

No, because Will targeted it during Cam's turn, it would only trigger if it was Will's turn

[@sharkmanyt4431]

Why u guys completely ignore Arabella?!?

[@argonnas2]

Woo master of keys

[@karadras-ccs]

Words on cards dont matter xd

[@Dracomandriuthus]

Tyler could have dress downed again if he hadnt borned

[@billyquade7098]

Cam always makes mistakes ,

[@timtehwizard7898]

@PlaytoWinMTG Might I ask why youve got hoarding broodlord in the Master of Keys list? Not seeing the line, but i also havent had a chance to play with the Broodlord. Thanks.

[@VestigeX3]

11:40 would dress down sacrifice even though dylan doesn’t get an end step?

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

It sacs at the end of the NEXT end step

[@Bandofbeebles]

@@PlaytoWinMTG *beginning of the next end step lol

[@Revival_JamZ]

If a player dies in his turn, there's still an end phase on that same turn

[@thomasfournier3738]

A cool replacement Ward for valg could have been « whenever valgavoth gets targeted by an opponent this turn, each opponent may pay 2 life secretly, if an opponent didn’t pay, counter that spell »