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GMHikaru

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5 ай бұрын

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@bicyclethief
@bicyclethief 5 ай бұрын
this is basically watching chess history as a marble race
@scottwarren4998
@scottwarren4998 4 ай бұрын
Hikaru is so stupid. Ofcourse the graph will look like it does. Shall we measure their elo compared to other top players at the time, or shall we measure something else? Hikaru wants to measure things in another way obviously.
@seife41
@seife41 3 ай бұрын
What? ​@@scottwarren4998
@WibaTalks
@WibaTalks 3 ай бұрын
calm down timmy damn. @@scottwarren4998
@dynastykingthereal
@dynastykingthereal 3 ай бұрын
stupid maybe but not on a chess scale lol @@scottwarren4998
@DanZhukovin
@DanZhukovin 2 ай бұрын
Ok do not EVER say that about one of the best chess players of all time. @@scottwarren4998
@TheLfamily24
@TheLfamily24 5 ай бұрын
I think it’s really cool watching all the Magnus footage from over the years. Dudes just been such a titan in chess. Deservedly so.
@LukeMakii
@LukeMakii 5 ай бұрын
Just wait till ‘drunk Magnus’ gets added to this poll..
@ramanahveljeyaseelan5406
@ramanahveljeyaseelan5406 5 ай бұрын
​@@LukeMakiidrunk Magnus is already there
@tongobong1
@tongobong1 4 ай бұрын
I wonder what chess programs Magnus and Hikaru are using to beat the opponents?
@sakireren9310
@sakireren9310 4 ай бұрын
​@@tongobong1????
@tongobong1
@tongobong1 4 ай бұрын
@@sakireren9310 sadly almost all the top chess players cheat. Kramnik is one of few that don't cheat.
@pablobaez2972
@pablobaez2972 5 ай бұрын
It's amazing how good Karpov was. Even in the Kasparov era, he clearly was the second best player by a huge margin.
@Shipdacheese
@Shipdacheese 5 ай бұрын
The russians dominated chess for a very long time. Nobody could've predicted Norway though...
@sa9245
@sa9245 5 ай бұрын
Yeah if there was no Kasparov Karpov could have been number 2 from 73 to 97 (overtaken a couple of times for a short periods).
@occultsymbols
@occultsymbols 5 ай бұрын
By a huge margin, not advantage
@pablobaez2972
@pablobaez2972 5 ай бұрын
@@occultsymbols Thanks. I'm not a native English speaker. I've fixed the comment
@stephenr80
@stephenr80 5 ай бұрын
Karpov was there for how long dude? Sick
@Mr.Walrus23
@Mr.Walrus23 5 ай бұрын
Kramnik's quick rise to the top seems interesting.
@Earthian765
@Earthian765 5 ай бұрын
Bro💀💀💀💀
@jevitigre
@jevitigre 5 ай бұрын
Kramnik was the only one who reached Garry´s rating althought for a short time, maybe 6 or 7 months
@yuegu103
@yuegu103 3 ай бұрын
Kramnik: Interesting Hikaru: Interesting Us: Interesting
@L33TTechReviewer
@L33TTechReviewer 5 ай бұрын
Insane how strong karpov was! Super impressive how quickly Magnus showed up and took clear first, no one else was like that 🤔
@MauricioRomanov
@MauricioRomanov 5 ай бұрын
Fischer: I simply do not exist. Almost 20 years to someone get his rating
@shiroyasha_007
@shiroyasha_007 4 ай бұрын
🤔🤔@@MauricioRomanov
@DanZhukovin
@DanZhukovin 2 ай бұрын
The mittens bot is based off of him, and he was an expert in all styles of chess. Says a lot lol.
@infrences
@infrences 5 ай бұрын
I didn’t realise Fabiano was so close to overtaking Magnus several times!
@chesscomsupport8689
@chesscomsupport8689 5 ай бұрын
During their World Championship match, Carlsen was 2835 and Fabi was 2832. Had Fabi won the match, he also would have overtaken Carlsen in the ratings.
@countryman032
@countryman032 4 ай бұрын
It makes sense considering he drew Magnus in all 12 classical rounds of the World Chess Championship.
@nl3064
@nl3064 3 ай бұрын
​@countryman032 The world championship has 14 rounds, doesn't it?
@chesscomsupport8689
@chesscomsupport8689 3 ай бұрын
@@nl3064 It was 12 at the time.
@Trizzer89
@Trizzer89 5 ай бұрын
Karpov's late resurgence is wild
@Fluxion11
@Fluxion11 5 ай бұрын
Idk about wild, but it's definitely very interesting. 🤔
@IonizedComa
@IonizedComa 2 ай бұрын
Some people's brains actually get better with age
@forwardfollower2401
@forwardfollower2401 5 ай бұрын
That is an incredible accomplishment to be in the conversation alongside the greatest of players during that time in history. You should be damn proud of yourself, Hikaru Nakamura.
@GhettPhocqued
@GhettPhocqued 2 ай бұрын
The people's champ.
@boohoohoohoo
@boohoohoohoo Ай бұрын
and the age. when was the last time someone 36 was 2nd highest rated?
@maxkho00
@maxkho00 24 күн бұрын
@@boohoohoohoo Anand, probably. Other than that, Karpov and Kasparov, too.
@boohoohoohoo
@boohoohoohoo 23 күн бұрын
@@maxkho00 hah okay i guess its not that rare.
@moatef1886
@moatef1886 14 күн бұрын
@@boohoohoohoo I think Korchnoi too. Ivanchuk hit number 2 at age 38.
@bobkish824
@bobkish824 5 ай бұрын
Nice to see Judit Polgar in the mix, starting at around 5:04.
@MrAlanfalk73
@MrAlanfalk73 5 ай бұрын
The only girl in the top 10 ever, I think at number 8. What I think is a good way to see who was best is number years at top1× mean rating points to number 2 . It is harder to use ratingspoints across years as every player could learn from the ones before him, and then when the computers came, that changed everything. But immagine Fisher or Karpov in todays world with acces to computers, maybe they would break 2950/3000 ?
@vojtechnovacek7776
@vojtechnovacek7776 4 ай бұрын
@@MrAlanfalk73 usually with better access to technology and (sports) science the gap between competitors closes. We can see that in chess now as the order behind Magnus shifts violently while earlier there was quite stable pecking order even in lower positions. I would say the technological advancement would have roughly the same impact the opposite way as the inflation of Elo scores due to larger player base which would leave Fisher, Kasparov etc. at rougly the same rating but would close the gap between the other players below them.
@MihajloNastic
@MihajloNastic 3 ай бұрын
​@@MrAlanfalk73tbh I think that number years on top is more important too
@scottwarren4998
@scottwarren4998 Ай бұрын
@@MrAlanfalk73 Reason? Maybe the reason was that there were less competitors in 1972 or less games being played at the top, which explains why the elo then didn't reach as high as now. Maybe the opponents then had less talent then compared to today. There are so many reasons...
@maxkho00
@maxkho00 24 күн бұрын
​@@vojtechnovacek7776 Larger playerbase decreases the ratings, not increases them: the more players there are, the more chances everyone has to play, and learn from, each other, increasing everyone's objective level of play without influencing the ratings. Therefore, a higher objective level of play is now required to attain the same rating. Moreover, advances in computer chess and online resources have made it much easier to improve without playing OTB, meaning a lot more players are now underrated OTB, resulting in even further deflation. This phenomenon is especially apparent in India, where a lack of FIDE tournaments on the club level means the FIDE ratings are about 200 points lower than in countries such as the US. Research has convincingly demonstrated that, on average, FIDE ratings are now around 300 points lower than they were 10 years ago ─ although this effect diminishes at higher ratings, with the deflation only amounting to around 50 points at the very top level. In fact, this research is exactly what motivated FIDE's recent rating change, which progressively increased the ratings of everyone previously rated between 1000 and 2000 by an average of 200 points.
@BattleslashX
@BattleslashX 5 ай бұрын
1:40 Mikhail Tal's quick rise and fall. 2700 to 2550 in a year. Insane. 6:45 The Covid flatline
@George_Bland
@George_Bland 5 ай бұрын
Bear in mind the video starts after Tal’s strongest point. Tal was champion before Botvinnik’s second reign as champion, who reigned before Petrosian, who reigned before Spassky, who is the person that Fischer beat to get the title himself, where the video starts.
@xaristakis5187
@xaristakis5187 3 ай бұрын
Yeah Tal was dying from cancer those years if i am not wrong, sooo yeah.. All those cigarrates got him at the end.
@imbacmZ
@imbacmZ 5 ай бұрын
Judit still impressive to hold her ranks in this best of the best for quite some time!
@angellestat2730
@angellestat2730 4 ай бұрын
And she was only an experiment from her father to prove than anyone could become top in any field if they just practice from little kids, to refute the idea that "genius are born". This mean one girl having the same training than all the other tops has accomplish the same. This taking into account all the social and cultural aspects that were against her, I will say without those she could have become top 1 maybe.
@MihajloNastic
@MihajloNastic 3 ай бұрын
​@@angellestat2730bruh just no that is just too huge "I'd say" bro it is same as "I'd say I could become top 1 in history", you cant say smh like that cuz gap between her and some of ppl above her is not that little
@flacsomtodosclas2165
@flacsomtodosclas2165 2 ай бұрын
@@MihajloNasticyou arent good enough to measure the gap with your skills but numbers so you shouldnt be saying this too.
@MihajloNastic
@MihajloNastic 2 ай бұрын
@@flacsomtodosclas2165 I can measure my skills perfectly lmao, cry harder now, she is top1 only for women and not even close to be top 5 not to talk abt top1. I can measure my skills but you cant accept your fav is not best
@Sympanet
@Sympanet 5 ай бұрын
I knew Kasparov was a legend but I didn’t realize what an absolute monolith he was. That’s insane
@Karn0010
@Karn0010 5 ай бұрын
There are so many crazy things about that clip that are awesome. 1st, Fischer, Karpov, and Kasparov were beasts for their time. 2nd, Ivanchuk is scary af when he wants to be. 3rd, Magnus' run is so damn impressive and he's still going. Heavy is the head that wears the crown. To maintain that rating is so damn difficult, one slip up and it takes a while to build it up again. Just a reminder that chess is a damn hard game.
@fluffcrunchmini4572
@fluffcrunchmini4572 5 ай бұрын
Was great to see judit there for so long too..
@MrSupernova111
@MrSupernova111 5 ай бұрын
She doesn't get enough credit.
@fluffcrunchmini4572
@fluffcrunchmini4572 5 ай бұрын
@@MrSupernova111 100% agree! She would be throwing down with Praag and So and Ding and similar names today.. And is like the combined Magnus, Kasparov and Karpov of the ladies!
@MihajloNastic
@MihajloNastic 3 ай бұрын
​@@MrSupernova111bruh she does get enough credit I would even argue that feminists give her even more credit than she deserves, she was 8th and some "SMART" feminists want to say that she is better than top 3
@MrSupernova111
@MrSupernova111 3 ай бұрын
@@MihajloNastic I've been playing chess for many years. Never in my life have I heard anyone say J Polgar was a top three player in the world. And no, she doesn't get enough credit for her accomplishments.
@MihajloNastic
@MihajloNastic 3 ай бұрын
@@MrSupernova111 she does get enough credit and in this comment section some idiot said she should be 2nd ranked
@chriszhang1660
@chriszhang1660 5 ай бұрын
Nobody: 1:43 *Hikaru: Michael Towel*
@johnwest7993
@johnwest7993 5 ай бұрын
Don't mock Mr. Towel!
@baltazarcarlos6829
@baltazarcarlos6829 5 ай бұрын
Anand longevity and resilience to leave the top 10 over the years is simply amazing! he is in my opinion at least a top 5 across the history of chess
@WinterMute99
@WinterMute99 4 ай бұрын
not to forget, hikaru has had a peak blitz rating of 2934, that is just insanely high, as well as his peak classical rating of 2800+, and we can all just watch this guy play at this level of chess for completely free, amazing mind this supergm has
@cielush1848
@cielush1848 5 ай бұрын
lmao at how bobby isnt just retiring and left behind - he went off the rails xD they nailed it so good
@vn_loc7316
@vn_loc7316 5 ай бұрын
He went straight up
@seinundzeiten
@seinundzeiten 5 ай бұрын
yes Garry was boss-like I didn't think so many players would catch up to him
@rockdude1122
@rockdude1122 5 ай бұрын
crazy to think what kasparov or fischer could have done with today's technology in their prime years.
@MrSupernova111
@MrSupernova111 5 ай бұрын
@@rockdude1122 . Unstoppable! But better yet, imagine both Fischer and Kasparov competing for #1 with today's technology. My guess is one of them gives up and moves on. There can only be one dominant #1.
@ramanahveljeyaseelan5406
@ramanahveljeyaseelan5406 5 ай бұрын
​@@MrSupernova111fidcher would have became an actor in this time period and would most likely hate chess as he has said before. He wouldnt di that well tbh. Garry already had this type of innovation and was one of the first to use computer engines. But I don't think he could have gone much further with it even with today's level if technology.
@ramanahveljeyaseelan5406
@ramanahveljeyaseelan5406 5 ай бұрын
​@@MrSupernova111fidcher would have became an actor in this time period and would most likely hate chess as he has said before. He wouldnt di that well tbh. Garry already had this type of innovation and was one of the first to use computer engines. But I don't think he could have gone much further with it even with today's level if technology.
@adityagoyal3491
@adityagoyal3491 5 ай бұрын
​@@ramanahveljeyaseelan5406dementia be like
@Mrpallekuling
@Mrpallekuling 5 ай бұрын
ELO is primarily a relative rating and not a value that directly measures the player's strength, which just means Fischer was superior to his opponents
@TheRiquelmeONE
@TheRiquelmeONE 5 ай бұрын
he was most likely worse than kasparov and magnus in absoloute strength because chess education evolved but the difference between him and players of his time is very comparable, possibly even greater.
@jpietersen519
@jpietersen519 5 ай бұрын
​@@TheRiquelmeONE there's quite a bit of comparison done between players throughout time, like comparing accuracy compared to computer moves. Obviously there is no perfect way to measure it, but what's remarkable about Fischer is that he still keeps popping up in the top 3 in most methods, together with Magnus and Kasparov. He was just a very strong player, not just relatively
@Ism0Lait3la
@Ism0Lait3la 5 ай бұрын
​@@jpietersen519Thats ridiculous considering opening preparation wasnt nearly as deep back then and no computer supported ideas. With that in mind he was probably the strongest chess mind ever
@warrioremperor6320
@warrioremperor6320 5 ай бұрын
@@TheRiquelmeONElow iq logic from a weeb(not surprising) elo measures relative strength implies intrinsic ability for chess, Fischer was above others in the same chess knowledge framework
@Moonlakes
@Moonlakes 5 ай бұрын
@@warrioremperor6320 isn't that what he just said
@Philiopantheon82
@Philiopantheon82 5 ай бұрын
I am absolutely in love with Karpov's achievement.
@cjikeako
@cjikeako 5 ай бұрын
Kasparov: Magnus is a lethal combination of Karpov and Fischer. If you watched this graphic, you'd appreciate just how awesome Karpov was and then unless you're a hopeless Fischer fanatic, you'd appreciate how strong Magnus is, especially after Chess Engines reduced The gap between the world number 1 the rest.
@BreakableDiamond
@BreakableDiamond 5 ай бұрын
All the other top players: *slow ascend to the top* Magnus: *SWOOOSH*
@johnwest7993
@johnwest7993 5 ай бұрын
Hans will beat everyone, just as soon as he stops vibrating.
@manzinin1070
@manzinin1070 5 ай бұрын
haha that was soooo bad
@alanchristiansen2880
@alanchristiansen2880 5 ай бұрын
yes: I found all those sudden rises by people at various times to be very interesting.
@tenkkutn
@tenkkutn 5 ай бұрын
I thought Hans Niemann would top the charts by now with his plug of butt special
@robertoaraiza7434
@robertoaraiza7434 5 ай бұрын
Really cool. I watched last week and yes I see your performance vs time. It's very good.
@UnknownAbraham
@UnknownAbraham 5 ай бұрын
In my mind Karpov has always been the 4th best player of all time. He was very close to Kasparov's strenght. In their 5 world championship matches Kasparov had 21 wins, 19 losses, and 104 draws in 144 games. Just imagine if anyone would get those results against Magnus or Bobby Fischer.
@ColinRamsey
@ColinRamsey 5 ай бұрын
Bent Larsen not getting enough love here. Guy was so unorthodox and his moves (even choice of openers) is still considered some of the most unique in all of chess.
@Pornaphobia1
@Pornaphobia1 5 ай бұрын
This just reinforced my opinion that karpov is under rated
@MrSupernova111
@MrSupernova111 5 ай бұрын
Nobody who actually knows chess history underrates Karpov. Only people new to the game would dare not give Karpov proper credit.
@thomasli6918
@thomasli6918 5 ай бұрын
@@MrSupernova111still underrated in terms of public opinion. so underrated.
@neutralrobot
@neutralrobot 5 ай бұрын
Karpov is basically chess's jaedong.
@infinitytoinfinitysquaredb7836
@infinitytoinfinitysquaredb7836 5 ай бұрын
I think Karpov's public image suffers from two factors: When he played Kasparov, he was regarded in the West as a Soviet stooge. And he had a positional style of play that people found boring.
@notsoeloquent
@notsoeloquent 5 ай бұрын
Looked like an incredibly soft era for chess. I have no idea how you came to your conclusion.
@Phoenix.219
@Phoenix.219 2 ай бұрын
Vishy Anand is older than I thought. I didn't know he was playing since 1990 (I guess he was playing even before that bcz he is in this chart from 1990).I remember him from newspaper, obviously he was always in Indian newspaper throughout my school period and we read his name in books too but my schooling was mainly in the first 10 years of 21st century so I thought he played during that time & didn't realize he was playing for a long timr before that. He inspired many and now we have so many young players emerging. In my school period I knew only Vishy Anand and Koneru Humpy as the Indians in chess.
@moatef1886
@moatef1886 14 күн бұрын
Anand is a legend in the chess world! He is STILL a top player at age 54, although he doesn't compete often. The guy was a top 10 player for like 30 years and even a world champion at the age of 37, the oldest modern world champion.
@sneakysquirrel4253
@sneakysquirrel4253 5 ай бұрын
Woah this is cool really appreciate how one person shines above the rest
@wylguinersantos881
@wylguinersantos881 4 ай бұрын
1:30 Henrique Mecking, considered by many, the best Brazilian chess player of all times. Third higher rating in 1977.
@songerph
@songerph 5 ай бұрын
Judit right there in the mix amazing
@JBroMCMXCI
@JBroMCMXCI 5 ай бұрын
Kasparov doesn’t really count because he created the game
@CeRz
@CeRz 5 ай бұрын
Magnus neither, he perfected it. Not fair to even mention him. Magnus should be remembered as the God of Chess, the Father, the Son and the holy Spirit.
@1stlullaby484
@1stlullaby484 5 ай бұрын
​@@CeRzso u mean to tell me that the god of chess can't beat an engine, bro i think saying god of chess is too much. Humans are prone to errors
@applehead2004mj
@applehead2004mj 5 ай бұрын
@@1stlullaby484 no one cares about the engine
@1stlullaby484
@1stlullaby484 5 ай бұрын
@@applehead2004mj many do
@egcgc7125
@egcgc7125 5 ай бұрын
​@@CeRzcant beat am engine so no.. he is not any g0d or perfected it
@euphoria.yunjin
@euphoria.yunjin 4 ай бұрын
vishy's longevity is INSANE. even if he didn't remain at the very top, he is still in the top 10. he's legendary tbh.
@owenlarson3289
@owenlarson3289 5 ай бұрын
In the wise words of Paul Morphy, "this is pretty epic"
@lmSnarkk
@lmSnarkk 5 ай бұрын
I remember the first time you reacted to a similar graph but it covered many more years of chess history than this one.
@ors5712
@ors5712 5 ай бұрын
it would be awesome to see how the current top players would fare vs the computer that Kasparov played againts (deep blue?). like if that computer only have access to games that were played before it played against kasparov.
@ytozylea8869
@ytozylea8869 3 ай бұрын
2:06 Hikaru: *vibing with the music*
@alexandercarlson919
@alexandercarlson919 2 ай бұрын
I don't play chess but love to watch it, been watching about 2 years and it seems recently chess has got a lot of attention, wonder what future stars will be breaking barriers soon in the next 10 years?
@germanstjohn7629
@germanstjohn7629 4 ай бұрын
You are the man, thanks for everything
@BrutalTathya
@BrutalTathya 2 ай бұрын
7:07 Hats off to Gukesh, amazing youngster, definitely deserves more recognition...
@mycommentpwnz
@mycommentpwnz 5 ай бұрын
Was it just ME or did the (#2 - #15) players seem to have a LOT MORE volatility on the "Y Axis" (SR) in the RECENT era? Maybe because of modern teaching methods, and game evolution, there seems to be a LOT more movement in the "non #1" rankings?
@jmwvirgil
@jmwvirgil 5 ай бұрын
The old ratings updated every six months. And I'm guessing there were less games played.
@Bgbjsd12
@Bgbjsd12 17 күн бұрын
Pretty awesome to see Judit Polgar keeping up with the men for almost 10 years, amazing feat
@felipecosta-pn1he
@felipecosta-pn1he 4 ай бұрын
We can see in the initial part of the video the greatest legend of brazilian chess, Mecking.
@ivan_pozdeev_u
@ivan_pozdeev_u 5 ай бұрын
Kasparov followed the tried-and-true move "quit while you're ahead"!
@ivan_pozdeev_u
@ivan_pozdeev_u 5 ай бұрын
6:00 Oh, it's that "promising youngster" guy Hikaru again! So he did become a GM, after all!
@ravighate2682
@ravighate2682 3 ай бұрын
Its crazy to think Vishy was there the longest time, with the likes of both kasparov, kramnik, topalov and magnus, hikaru and fabiano. It really shows he experienced both the eras also its funny that even now he is competing against the far younger generation like prag and gukesh for the India no.1 spot.
@williamrobert9898
@williamrobert9898 2 ай бұрын
India no 1 spot is not really important, sorry to say and I would say staying as the number 1 ranked Chess player for the longest time is infinitely more impressive than staying in the top 10 for the longest time
@moatef1886
@moatef1886 14 күн бұрын
@@williamrobert9898 He's not comparing Vishy to Kasparov lol.
@jacekgatkowski8869
@jacekgatkowski8869 4 ай бұрын
Im amazed by Karpov actually. Yeah Gary was dominating for long, but Carpov rain of being nr 1 or 2 was even longer. :D
@ThomasistheTwin
@ThomasistheTwin 5 ай бұрын
As soon as engines became a thing then the ratings were all over the place noticed the volatility within the last five years
@marvinmarvin387
@marvinmarvin387 2 ай бұрын
Fabi... trying to get a sinus fuction in this graph xD
@tacho9427
@tacho9427 5 ай бұрын
Fischer had a crazy lead over his contemporaries, but Morphy's was crazier.
@Fantastika
@Fantastika 4 ай бұрын
Kasparovs is crazier
@thechuckberryfan98
@thechuckberryfan98 5 ай бұрын
This was good information content. Thank you 😊 Stay inspired.
@ozkavoshdjalla
@ozkavoshdjalla 5 ай бұрын
Judit Polgar is the only woman on this list which is pretty incredible.
@AustinMulkaMusic
@AustinMulkaMusic 5 ай бұрын
7:39 They need to define the words about their accomplishments and achievements in their Wikipedia articles versus controversy. Bobby Fisher has a lot of controversy from going insane.
@PlaygroundMafia
@PlaygroundMafia 5 ай бұрын
Judit polgar was on the list for a long time. Even top 7!
@MihajloNastic
@MihajloNastic 3 ай бұрын
Pretty sure she was 8th?
@PlaygroundMafia
@PlaygroundMafia 3 ай бұрын
@MihajloNastic Why even comment this? Just watch the video, she hits 7th before she drops off.
@MihajloNastic
@MihajloNastic 3 ай бұрын
@@PlaygroundMafia kk google tells me she peaked at 8th probably cause she had highest rating while being 8th but nvm
@fire_forever
@fire_forever 5 ай бұрын
Ivanchuk has fantastic performance
@dinofx35
@dinofx35 5 ай бұрын
Only one man was a full 100 points above 2nd place. Nobody else even came close to that
@MrSupernova111
@MrSupernova111 5 ай бұрын
The GOAT!
@esrbin95
@esrbin95 5 ай бұрын
Garry was 150ish ahead of 3rd place for some period in there
@ramanahveljeyaseelan5406
@ramanahveljeyaseelan5406 5 ай бұрын
​@@MrSupernova111yes Magnus is the gkat
@bobing1752
@bobing1752 5 ай бұрын
To be fair, in 1990 Garry was 140 points ahead of the competition except Karpov. So I think Kasparov didn't just come close, he surpassed Fischer's dominance and extended it for 20 years
@donkbonktj5773
@donkbonktj5773 4 ай бұрын
@@bobing1752 No he didn't
@jacobj3491
@jacobj3491 3 ай бұрын
There will almost always be a big gap between #1 and #2 because one is the best so no one can consistently lower their rating, therefore their rating just kinda keeps going up except for the occasional mishap
@lolodarkness
@lolodarkness 5 ай бұрын
Hikaru is rising
@notastra-blockmango8114
@notastra-blockmango8114 3 ай бұрын
Magnus be like : imma wait for ya guys at the end😂
@Saikyou_002
@Saikyou_002 5 ай бұрын
Fischer, Kasparov & Magnus: "Is there no one else?"
@user-vo5ux4fi6f
@user-vo5ux4fi6f 5 ай бұрын
Dont undermine karpov bro
@piratemonkeycode
@piratemonkeycode 5 ай бұрын
Vishy is a true legend.
@stolengrilfriendclub8724
@stolengrilfriendclub8724 5 ай бұрын
Evan ชุกมันหล่อเวเยยย
@icelandtraveladventure
@icelandtraveladventure 5 ай бұрын
I think chess has never been as competitive and difficult as it is now. The reason is the massive online market.
@purnabharvada1158
@purnabharvada1158 2 ай бұрын
Still, no one knows how Mikhail Tal the magician got outta the list.
@lashabezhanishvili9034
@lashabezhanishvili9034 5 ай бұрын
Karpov is very underrated. We should rate players for their longevity on the top, which is why I consider best of all time these players - 1. Kasparov. 2. Lasker. 3. Karpov. 4. Carlsen. Although Carlsen will move to at least second by the end of his career if he does not quit chess. Fischer beat bunch of old guys who refused to take draws, which is why he had such a high rating. He never challenged young generation and he never won a super tournament in his life. Palma de Mallorca was interzonal and could count but he never finished ahead of world champion in any tournament. And he couldn't even win Piatogorski Cup. Lasker destroyed Capa twice in super tournaments if you remember. P.S. If Fabi becomes world champion, he also could move to top 5. :)
@ArthurvanH0udt
@ArthurvanH0udt 4 ай бұрын
It’s funny to see that these graphs kinda disprove the inflation theory of ELO.
@AleksiJoensuu
@AleksiJoensuu 5 ай бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you couldn't exactly compare like for like, say, Fischer in 1973 at 2780 and Garry Kasparov in 1989 at 2780 and Ding Liren in 2022 at 2780. Since ELO isn't a measure of absolute, but of relative strength: that is, Fischer's 2780 was in relation to other players in 1973, Kasparov's 2780 was in relation to other players in 1989, and the same for Ding in 2022. Not that a like for like comparison would be very useful anyway since that's always hypothetical, like "Who would win if Kasparov and Fischer played?" We can estimate but we'll never really know.
@moatef1886
@moatef1886 14 күн бұрын
Yes you're right, but the video is not claiming that these are "absolute strength" ratings. We use ELO as a measure of relative strength so you could ideally judge how dominant a player of the past was relative to their peers. ELO depends completely on the player pool. That being said, it's not a perfect measure of relative strength either, and there is some "inflation" due to a couple of reasons. But it's generally indicative of relative strength.
@ariassingh462
@ariassingh462 5 ай бұрын
I wonder what it must feel like to be one of the best ever, but not the best. It’s a massive achievement, but I wonder if such person dwells much on it.
@CeRz
@CeRz 5 ай бұрын
I think most do but eventually they'll accept it. That darn Magnus ruined everything for them. All they will remember is, I was good, real good, you know, just not better than magnus. Then when they grow old and get dementia or alzheimers they'll mumble in their sleep "Magnus... Magnus... Magnus" then wake up in terror after a god awful nightmare. He will haunt them even when they cant remember what breakfast they had.
@rickdonnelly3937
@rickdonnelly3937 5 ай бұрын
@@CeRzthen he accuses everyone of cheating.
@CeRz
@CeRz 5 ай бұрын
all chess players in the entire chess scene has suspicions about who cheats. Do your research before falling for the social media bubble like a slow person. The thing is, Magnus is such an important person in the chess scene and dominant that he gets all the media attention when other people who says the same things as magnus do and get no attention for it. There is not a single master in chess that hasn't accused someone of cheating. And of course you're american, it's not your fault. Maybe you'll get it right one day.@@rickdonnelly3937
@ivan_pozdeev_u
@ivan_pozdeev_u 5 ай бұрын
@@CeRz Very true. A way to escape this "Second in Rome" situation is to recognize the struggle for a single first spot as a false dichotomy and concentrate on other things.
@sloNsteady
@sloNsteady 4 ай бұрын
once magnus crossed 2800 he never came down in 2700s
@AlexanderTheGreat871
@AlexanderTheGreat871 4 ай бұрын
Different toppers, different generations, different dominations Bobby, karpov, magnus
@2nerC9
@2nerC9 2 ай бұрын
Dude Bobby is just ridiculous... imagine if he never quit and just kept playing against himself like the psycho he was lmao...
@bevs9995
@bevs9995 2 ай бұрын
1:23 -- there was no "deflation"... its just that Bobby Fischer was inhuman, and literally every other player during and after his time was human. 2690 is/was the average for the world's greatest. Maybe thats why they changed the rating system.
@Al-gv5uw
@Al-gv5uw 5 ай бұрын
This is why Karpov is my favorite player
@Al-gv5uw
@Al-gv5uw 5 ай бұрын
And his games art works of art
@RFGSwiss
@RFGSwiss 5 ай бұрын
My love to Viktor Korchnoi. He left an impression on me. rest in piece.
@MirinkaiserVODs
@MirinkaiserVODs 5 ай бұрын
Korchnoi also left an impression on me. A younger me that read about the story of chess championships enjoyed the controversy of the 1978 and 1981 world championships between Korchnoi and Karpov, not to mention that his playing style is the kind that I personally favor, as well. When I started playing chess tournaments, I got to meet him at the Quebec Open in July of 2004, in which he was the most renowned participant in the open section. Obviously I didn't go and talk to him or anything like that, but man, I was amazed. He had a very real "presence" to him. Like a sort of aura. May he rest in peace.
@markdecarolis8714
@markdecarolis8714 5 ай бұрын
Imagine Fischer playing Internet Chess...! How high his rating would be!...?...
@necrobryze
@necrobryze 5 ай бұрын
2500 cuz he'd be new to this generation
@necrobryze
@necrobryze 5 ай бұрын
could be also 2700
@MrSupernova111
@MrSupernova111 5 ай бұрын
@@necrobryze . You're clueless if you think peak Fischer is below top ten in any era. All he would need to do is do some catch up in opening prep to get back as a contender for chess dominance.
@necrobryze
@necrobryze 5 ай бұрын
@@MrSupernova111 nah, he didn't study computers so yeah 2700-2800 to be accurate
@jehehe76tcixi
@jehehe76tcixi 5 ай бұрын
@@MrSupernova111if he grew up in this age he would be so ahead
@RUBBERBANDMALAYALAM
@RUBBERBANDMALAYALAM 4 ай бұрын
The really good thing about hikaru is he admitted great players better than him.. And he admire them.. He gives respect and take respect. The second most powerful chess streaming community Holder.. Gm hikaru...🎉🎉🎉
@rhwing5095
@rhwing5095 2 ай бұрын
I always felt Kramnik was quite underrated, even as a world champ who took out Kasparov. Stayed near the top for a very long time, but just was always outshined by Kasparov and later Carlsen.
@moatef1886
@moatef1886 14 күн бұрын
I mean look at Anand; he has essentially the same strength and career as Kramnik + being a world champion a few more times than Kramnik and yet is still rated about the same as Kramnik by a bunch of people, even though he should be rated a bit below him. That's not really being underrated, unless you mean something like both Anand and Kramnik are underrated in the grand scheme of things, then yes.
@Scorpion11x_
@Scorpion11x_ 2 ай бұрын
“Are you the strongest because you’re magnus, or are you magnus because you’re the strongest”
@Greatermaxim
@Greatermaxim 4 ай бұрын
Our boy, Maggie.
@nocomment6421
@nocomment6421 3 ай бұрын
Magnus being the one above all lol
@Gryph0nM4chine
@Gryph0nM4chine 4 ай бұрын
I love Michael Tal :)
@lammatt
@lammatt 5 ай бұрын
Gawr Gura's sub count against other vtuber is still the most insane one of all this infographic thing
@Fantastika
@Fantastika 4 ай бұрын
bruh
@witkat
@witkat 4 ай бұрын
3:44 it just not feel the same anymore
@Sweet_Jelly39
@Sweet_Jelly39 5 ай бұрын
Mikhail Tal my favourite💖
@darkalman
@darkalman 5 ай бұрын
Judit Polgar deserves more credit, she was right up there for a while
@MihajloNastic
@MihajloNastic 3 ай бұрын
Kasparov, Karpov, Magnus are there for quite a long too? Setting her at something over 8th is just playing favorites
@snatch6011
@snatch6011 2 ай бұрын
я так орнул, когда он сказал Майкл Таль
@user-sn7ex2nl8f
@user-sn7ex2nl8f 5 ай бұрын
**michael tal**😂
@Xionite007
@Xionite007 5 ай бұрын
Louis litt is the man
@scottwarren4998
@scottwarren4998 Ай бұрын
@GMHikaru AWW! you should have had Botvinnik's peak. His is 2882 like kasparov's 2882. carlsen's peak is 2278.
@boston.0703
@boston.0703 4 ай бұрын
“Michael Tal”💀💀💀
@chesscomsupport8689
@chesscomsupport8689 5 ай бұрын
3:44 Kramnik
@vamshiyadav9030
@vamshiyadav9030 18 күн бұрын
Vishy still in the chart that shows how consistent he is
@stephenr80
@stephenr80 5 ай бұрын
Bro. Karpov reigned for how many years? 😮😮😮😮
@kestelllaurie3224
@kestelllaurie3224 5 ай бұрын
Shoutout to Judit Polgar!
@bryantcullen1377
@bryantcullen1377 5 ай бұрын
Freaking Fischer! For me, he's the greatest competitor of all time. Never been anyone else like him.
@patogordo1385
@patogordo1385 5 ай бұрын
Magnus…. Better even
@bryantcullen1377
@bryantcullen1377 5 ай бұрын
@@patogordo1385 Magnus is better than Fischer? Are you crazy? Fischer would destroy Magnus.
@patogordo1385
@patogordo1385 5 ай бұрын
@@bryantcullen1377 Magnus is better than Fisher
@bryantcullen1377
@bryantcullen1377 5 ай бұрын
@@patogordo1385 Fischer would destroy Magnus.
@AirFresh-jk9og
@AirFresh-jk9og 5 ай бұрын
​@@patogordo1385Fischer can fatally destroy magnus if he could study stockfish
@MrSupernova111
@MrSupernova111 5 ай бұрын
I absolutely love these graphics. That said, Fischer's rise and dominance was unparalleled. We'll never see another chess genius like Fischer.
@CeRz
@CeRz 5 ай бұрын
So wrong. We have the greatest chess genius of all time alive.
@bryantcullen1377
@bryantcullen1377 5 ай бұрын
@@CeRz Magnus? Fischer would destroy Mag.
@notsoeloquent
@notsoeloquent 5 ай бұрын
​@@bryantcullen1377and then you would wake up with a wet blanket
@CeRz
@CeRz 5 ай бұрын
@@bryantcullen1377 magnus would intuitively win blindfolded with time odds.
@CeRz
@CeRz 5 ай бұрын
@@notsoeloquent LOL
@lulzywizard7576
@lulzywizard7576 3 ай бұрын
Pretty sure the dip from Magnus is from lack of effort lol
@MasterInHD
@MasterInHD 5 ай бұрын
Nah, because Fischer being over 130 elo than the 2nd best player is unfathomable.
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