Pen every single show…”I absolutely love (X Player), ask anyone & they will tell you there is no bigger fan of (X Player) than me, I literally watched (X Player) since he was 4 years old, he’s from my home country……I promise you X player is not a valuable player, he cannot defend anybody on the basketball court & he actually makes every team he joins worst… This guy is unbelievable lmao I’ve never hurt so much backhanded praise in my life !!
@MarzTalksSportsАй бұрын
I know if pen says he likes someone to expect to hear every flaw theyve had since birth and if he hates them i expect to hear about how he got All A's on his report card in 4th Grade
@pensarebasketballАй бұрын
@@MarzTalksSportscome on this is crazy. You can think Fred is an overrated chucker and still respect the hell out of the guy on the court. It doesn't have to be so black and White. Nuance is hard for people. I am rooting for Bronny. I still think he's horrible right now and should be in school. I think Jalen Suggs was the wrong pick at #5 in 2021 and still think he's very valuable. I can absolutely hate Joel Embiid and accept he's the best player on Team USA. Life is full of contradictions. That's wisdom.
@MarzTalksSportsАй бұрын
@@pensarebasketball Its just a joke. i will continue to expect u to tell me about how the next player you hate was giving out soup at the homeless shelter in their hometown in 2014. and how the next player you love actually had 12 fights in 8th grade
@pensarebasketballАй бұрын
@@MarzTalksSportsalso I said I was an Embiid hater and PJ hater and spent an hour ripping them to shreds. Respectfully lol
@MarzTalksSportsАй бұрын
@@pensarebasketball PJ is an exception
@Matthew-xl5bcАй бұрын
It’s crazy how Chill will hate on KD, SGA, and Embiid as a way to push his Tatum top 5 agenda. I hope people are catching on to that trend
@tayluc777Ай бұрын
I think Tatum is top 5 though, I have him right at 5.
@malikwilson7387Ай бұрын
@Matthew-xl5bc they hate on KD hard over here they don't want to admit it but Kevin Durant is the best Olympic basketball player in Team USA history no one can create they own shot on that team like him and Team USA desperately needs Durant right now they're struggling against Australia
@Matthew-xl5bcАй бұрын
@@malikwilson7387💯
@leeko1ardaАй бұрын
@@tayluc777Tatum not even top 10
@denim5667Ай бұрын
@@leeko1arda keep going
@MarzTalksSportsАй бұрын
Eternal Damnation is CRAZY. me personally i wouldnt have that
@tcj227Ай бұрын
Does bub Carrington have potential?
@MarzTalksSportsАй бұрын
@@tcj227 yes
@denim5667Ай бұрын
MIKE talk like he the best ever but have the same availability as kawhi😭
@spaceship5786Ай бұрын
I think he's said somewhere that he's trolling too 😂
@denim5667Ай бұрын
@@spaceship5786 i think he is too, at least i hope someone ain’t that delusional😭
@dukebaylocksАй бұрын
😮😮😮😬😬😬🫢
@denim5667Ай бұрын
@@dukebaylocks W duke🤝
@dukebaylocksАй бұрын
@@denim5667 W Denim 🫱🏿🫲🏾
@MarzTalksSportsАй бұрын
First round PJ 42.9% wide open (1/2.3 attempts) 21.4% Open (0.5/2.3) (1.7/4.6 overall 36.9%) Second Round 50% open threes (1.7/3.3) 44.4% wide open threes (2/4.5) (3.7/7.8) 47.4% WCF 26.1% on wide open threes (1.2/4.6) 25% on open threes (0.4/1.6) (1.6/6.2) 25.8% Finals 30% on open threes (0.6/2) 18.2% wide open threes (0.4/2.2) 1/4.2 (23.8% First Round PJ 41.2 corner threes (1.2/2.8) 20% above the break (0.5/2.5) Second Round 42.9 corner 3s (2.5/5.8) 57.1% above the break (1.3/2.3) WCF 37.5% corner 3s (1.2/3.2) 13.3% above the break 3s (0.4/3.0) Finals 14.3% corner 3s (0.4/1.4) 33.3% above the break 3s (1.0/3.0) Okc played a logical game,like everyone they just happened to get burnt by it,thats what makes sports great,the variance in outcomes,logic doesnt always work,but its still the best approach in a vaccum,just happens to be basketball isnt played in a vaccum or on paper.
@denim5667Ай бұрын
PJ turning into prime klay thompson for 6 games made me happy🙏🏾
@Zay0321Ай бұрын
Did you have this already typed up ? 😂
@MarzTalksSportsАй бұрын
@@Zay0321 did the research during the segment
@Zay0321Ай бұрын
@@MarzTalksSports got it 💪🏾
@bilawalkАй бұрын
pj washington, mavs legend
@OwenEverett-cq2pbАй бұрын
I need a time stamp for the chill crash out plz🙏
@aherbo18Ай бұрын
Chill losing his mind cause Ox thinks basketball is “simple” genuinely had me crying😭
@aquartermilАй бұрын
It is simple just most guys don’t slow the game down especially in this era so it makes it seem like it ain’t simple 😭😭most these dudes who coming in don’t even be knowing the fundamentals hell shit analytics taking the fundamentals & those typa concepts out they way they play to %s & etc.
@aherbo18Ай бұрын
@@aquartermil I agree to a certain extent but basketball at the highest level still isn’t “simple”. There’s a lot of nuances to the game and how to play it the correct way on both ends. If it was simple, IQ wouldn’t matter and any talented athlete could go pro. But they can’t. Because the game is more than just “go out there and make the right play”.
@pensarebasketballАй бұрын
@@aquartermilbasketball is simple if you're smart. It's simple for Luka. It's simple for LeBron. It's simple for Jokić. It's not simple for Precious Achiuwa.
@BIGOXMediaАй бұрын
@@aherbo18 I think we want to believe that there’s more to it than there is. Even some more complicated schemes are actually simple once you learn the reasoning and ultimate goals of the scheme.
@aherbo18Ай бұрын
@@BIGOXMedia yeah I’m not denying that we as the basketball community over complicate things at times, but I also don’t agree with the idea that everyone on the court should be able to do everything. Yes they can do everything in a literal sense. Put Josh Giddey in a YMCA or even a rec league and he can move off the ball, catch and shoot, make the right decisions, etc. Put Rudy Gobert in the same scenario and he can guard on the perimeter at an elite level and space the floor. But at the top of the top that the NBA and even the EuroLeague is, guys are turned into specialists because of how difficult it is to do everything at a high level compared to their peers. And that’s what makes it complicated because now teams have to scheme ways of making these specialists effective.
@upgradeyourmindset3265Ай бұрын
If you want to ask what 55th pick gets this much criticism then also ask yourself what 55th pick gets this much media attention. Because with the attention comes the criticism. You have people who come up here and talk crazy about guys like Russell Westbrook, DeMar DeRozan, Jayson Tatum, Julius Randle... the list goes on. All-star players who paid their dues to get where they are at. Y'all even go as far as disrespecting past legends like Jordan and Magic. But now we can't critique an unproven rookie who is getting highlight reels for deflections? Make it make sense
@ChuckywbАй бұрын
Embid & joker don’t even guard eachother 😂😂 what tf do ron even be saying
@buckiszАй бұрын
Y'all losing credibility with this cap for Giddy. He's average in the NBA if that.
@BIGOXMediaАй бұрын
4 comments all about Josh? Maybe you like him a little more than you think.
@buckiszАй бұрын
@@BIGOXMedia I don't dislike him. But at this stage he has been giving opportunities he hasn't earned. But wee gone see.
@denim5667Ай бұрын
i want someone to defend me the same way marz defends embiid not wanting to play in denver🙏🏾
@Matthew-xl5bcАй бұрын
Embiid was clearly dealing with injuries but y’all just want to put on your best Skip Bayless impression and just follow popular narratives.
@malikwilson7387Ай бұрын
@@Matthew-xl5bc they hate Embiid bro but every time they play Embiid owns him and drops a 40 piece on jokic
@pensarebasketballАй бұрын
Marz defended Joel better than Johnnie Cochran defended OJ NGL. Your honor, my client was NOT ducking Jokić, he was menstruating that week and had extensive cramping of his lady parts.
@denim5667Ай бұрын
@@Matthew-xl5bc well that’s why i think he’s vastly overrated; the inability to consistently play at least 95% consistently and never healthy going into the playoffs is just bad. still, it’s hilarious how buddy can never play in denver but play in his own city
@denim5667Ай бұрын
@@pensarebasketball LMAO😂😂😂😂😂😂
@ronaldo9047Ай бұрын
53rd pick Cam Spencer for the grizzlies is doing great
@j_the_don5160Ай бұрын
Respectfully Bronny is not a NBA player. He’s a good defender but it’s not enough. LeBron’s greatest failure as a NBA player will be ending his son’s career before it even starts. Unless LeBron can put up 20 8 and 8 for the next 5 years this will be Bronny’s last contract. If your peak is being a 8th man on the roster you are not good enough
@vishnuavva9265Ай бұрын
His greatest failure will be losing 6 times in the finals lol
@battousaithekingslayer9913Ай бұрын
Him getting his son into the nba is a failure? Wow you bums have reached a new low. Its funny, no other 2nd rounder has gotten this much hate 😂. So apparently bronny is the only draft pick not nba ready, like damn we heard yall say this over and over, move on already. He in the nba, stop regurgitating the same shi
@yetundeadeyemi2436Ай бұрын
@@battousaithekingslayer9913I just don't like nepotism that's whyy
@howitzdone8992Ай бұрын
Bronny is bad in transition 😂 he doesn’t run he jogs up the court without the ball
@MarzTalksSportsАй бұрын
which is so weird to me
@howitzdone8992Ай бұрын
@@MarzTalksSports I don’t get it either
@Zay0321Ай бұрын
@@howitzdone8992 he’s probably not even nba level conditioning. He needs to be in the g league for at least 2 years
@BIGOXMediaАй бұрын
@@Zay0321NBA level conditioning is no joke
@Jalen-sm1opАй бұрын
Ox if your defender is sagging off you should stay for the corner three, ball handler should drive to draw the defender in then kick out to you lol if he’s sagging why would you move into the defense which are, as you said, playing off of you lmao
@Jalen-sm1opАй бұрын
Nah watching ox explain it even with the clipboard is even worse he’s dead ass serious 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@BIGOXMediaАй бұрын
@@Jalen-sm1op He sagging off because the player in question is supposedly not a shooter. So explain to me why would the ball handler drive and kick to a none shooter.
@BIGOXMediaАй бұрын
@@Jalen-sm1op lol I bet you thought you cooked huh? You 2k playing, none basketball knowers better leave me alone. Keep your mouth shut and your eyes/ears open maybe you can learn something.
@blackfist6745Ай бұрын
It’s crazy how they let who ever his name is dominate the show he talked more then any body and was interrupted everybody but when ticket use to do it it was a problem
@nykareem2001Ай бұрын
You already know why that is
@pensarebasketballАй бұрын
Who ever his name is didn't cross the line. Don't need to compare apples and oranges to make your shit takes taste like juice.
@BrothaSchwiftyАй бұрын
Let us know when he starts tossing out random insults and you might have a point
@25ray33Ай бұрын
I fuck with big ox but damn pen 🖊️ fried him
@Dologaming24Ай бұрын
That B Team would get smacked, then everyone would be making the excuse of not sending our real team.
@maxavelli6155Ай бұрын
Why chill snap like that😭😭😭😭
@Senju_HVMАй бұрын
He the best when angry
@PraiseObito19 күн бұрын
Timestamp?
@nykareem2001Ай бұрын
Marz's Embiid bias is making this show unwatchable
@MarzTalksSportsАй бұрын
I said he doesnt fit on team USA and i think he brings down the performance of the team. but i lay out undeniable facts about his missed games cos of a stupid agenda that he ducks denver and its bias 👍👍
@DreJ912Ай бұрын
@@MarzTalksSportsI think they were trolling you. But it worked lol. You were low key heated
@MarzTalksSportsАй бұрын
@@DreJ912 No they were 100% trolling i was just making sure we got the clip
@denim5667Ай бұрын
nikola topic is such a good player. i was hoping the spurs would take him and pair him with castle and wemby, i really wanted to see that. folks calling him “josh giddy 2.0” was infuriating because he has so much potential
@Jalen-sm1opАй бұрын
Ox has absorbed ticket his downfall has been hilarious lmao
@st0rmboi534Ай бұрын
1:35:37 everything pen said is literally what ox as saying pen said anytime pj is forced to make a play with the ball other than shooting a open shot is a bad move and everything ox was saying was ways that pj would be taking open shots but they completely hated that
@amari5713Ай бұрын
Members only panel episodes now???????????
@DD-rk6knАй бұрын
14:50 Great point marz. Sometimes you make really good points. Also with the assist stat being subjektiv couple weeks ago good that someone points these things out
@greathokage9089Ай бұрын
Just because you're a skilled big doesn't mean you can't be a dirty work guy. You guys say it all the time you have to play a role to make it to the NBA, just because you're not asked to do something less than doesn't mean you're not skilled. Nas Reid is a skilled big who does dirty work stuff.
@gzo70Ай бұрын
I don’t mind him but pin talks way too long and also he comes off as his opinion matters and you’re wrong. He’s still knowledgeable and is very passionate.
@JohnAnderson4610Ай бұрын
Ox sucks
@BIGOXMediaАй бұрын
You swallow
@BIGOXMediaАй бұрын
I had a good come back to this but it was deleted. I think you would have gotten a kick out of it 😂😂😂
@pensarebasketballАй бұрын
Nah Ox is good people. Respect.
@BIGOXMediaАй бұрын
@@pensarebasketball 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
@nathanielegwabor6626Ай бұрын
@@BIGOXMediaevery response you say you have some legendary comeback, unless you plan on dropping slurs it seems like your deflecting to keep up the gimmick💀
@howitzdone8992Ай бұрын
I understood exactly wat ox was saying chill and pen had to be trolling,glad marz pulled that lil demo up cuz wat ox was saying makes sense if DJJ and PJ Washington wasn’t the player having to space the floor and 😂😂
@MarzTalksSportsАй бұрын
W visuals
@aquartermilАй бұрын
Nah fr like what he was sayin was common sense idk why it was push back lmaoo
@MarzTalksSportsАй бұрын
@@aquartermil i still dont understand what the argument truly was
@thekiddsean33026Ай бұрын
The players choice fell off since Ticket Tv been gone
@OFFICIALTEEK-nu1evАй бұрын
Yall say this every episode, like damn we get it bruh😭watch ticket if u miss him that badly
@Kato2K5Ай бұрын
@@OFFICIALTEEK-nu1evpeople come in here just to gawk about how much they miss ticket more than actually watching his own channel 💀
@WRLdPeAcE96Ай бұрын
The panel spent 40 mins talking about the freaking rockets a play in team at best but that’s entertaining more than ticket tv😂
@huncho5554Ай бұрын
W Marz , southgate is packed up and gone which means England 60 year drought is over. England 2026 World Cup winners 🫡
@WRLdPeAcE96Ай бұрын
Yea doing my research the numbers don’t show curry has regressed so marz was obviously using his flawed eye test once again if ur gonna spew nonsense please say in your opinion curry has regressed thank you😊
@MarzTalksSportsАй бұрын
i thought it was clear it was my opinion,i dont speak for anyone but myself unless i explicitly say so. also no idea what numbers ur looking at but thanks for calling it nonsense
@rxlo_jay5549Ай бұрын
I don’t know who bro on bottom right but u fw bro
@mohamedtunis1603Ай бұрын
2018 Warriors vs 2024 Celtics 7 game series. Who wins? Btw Everyone is 100% fully healthy
@DD-rk6knАй бұрын
is that question serious or are you trolling? I take prime kd and curry with there role players. draymonds defense and klays back in the days great defense all day 😂
@DesignzRUsАй бұрын
You didn't even mention prime Boogie lol @@DD-rk6kn
@howitzdone8992Ай бұрын
I’m looking at bronny how I look at emoni bates, the people around him didn’t help or tell him what they needed to hear. They needed to stay in school and learn how to play anything other than HS ball
@mohamedtunis1603Ай бұрын
Yeah he has A lot of work to do and he doesn’t need any yes men around him. There’s potential in bronny but he should’ve stayed in college for another year
@aquartermilАй бұрын
That man ain’t even near emoni bates …when emoni got the keys he went & got it lmaoo they giving bronny everything…& he just don’t want it stop comparing this dude to guys WHO WOULD KILL W THE ADVANTAGES HES BEEN GIVIN
@howitzdone8992Ай бұрын
@@aquartermil read again, never said he was close 😂 I said that neither of those guys crowd kept it real with them and told them they should stay in school never compared them as players, try again gang
@battousaithekingslayer9913Ай бұрын
@@mohamedtunis1603for what? What does college do? It doesn’t prepare you for the nba.
@denim5667Ай бұрын
can someone please tell me the chill vs buddie lore? buddie like to throw some personal jabs, it can’t be trolling at this point😭
@davidcortes3037Ай бұрын
Idk how it started but Buddie hates lebron and chill is a lebron guy. Put two and two together and boom. Emotional dudes beefing over lebron
@denim5667Ай бұрын
@@davidcortes3037 makes alotta sense😂
@Zay0321Ай бұрын
People on the internet wanting attention and chill feeding into it. Shit be weird ngl
@aquartermilАй бұрын
@@davidcortes3037it started off like that now buddie just getting personal w it & chill had enough 😭😭sometimes buddie just do stuff just to do it
@diamonds-m5gАй бұрын
Timestamp?
@real_howard_stern5969Ай бұрын
Who’s the new guy? He needs to lay off the Xanax
@pensarebasketballАй бұрын
😂 This is pure cocaine and Zoloft. Xanax was 6 mental breakdowns ago. Keep up
@OwenEverett-cq2pbАй бұрын
@@pensarebasketballtype sh*t
@Hones1TruthАй бұрын
What is clear is some have no knowledge about what actually takes place. What we lacked was a post touch like a KD who can rise over anyone. What that does is draw in multiple defenders opening room for others to cut and get easier looks. Embiid is not providing that and nobody else is. From watching past Olympics games that was what KD did best even Melo or Kobe. Right now every thing is perimeter based and we don’t have a deadly post up or middy game because KD is not there. If you want to rely on shooting threes with Steph then you are running away from the inside game which is how everyone else is keeping it up close. I suggest you go look at past games Olympics games with KD before you start dissing. He has averaged 30 points in three gold medal games and is still at top of his game now even after that injury. There is still no defense for KD and what we are lacking is a player who dominates inside first and they won’t leave KD than he has Curry to swing too. But it starts with dominating the interior before we open up our outside game first. We are not supposed to be playing chess now fools and be in same position with points but beating them by like 20 plus. It is a team USA first now and get over your biases from what happened in NBA and see what is needed not based on your closed mind.
@yetundeadeyemi2436Ай бұрын
I mean they do have people like bam and dbook who are great in the midrange, also kd in the post isn't as good as U think he is
@Hones1TruthАй бұрын
@@yetundeadeyemi2436 I have watched enough games to know he always takes advantage of mismatch’s in the post and scores with ease. Or he goes in there draws doubles and kicks to open man. I don’t have time to argue with a hater with an agenda just go search the numbers how he is green lights from all over the field
@yetundeadeyemi2436Ай бұрын
@@Hones1Truth I ain't a hater, how did I hate??
@Hones1TruthАй бұрын
@@yetundeadeyemi2436 if you know anything what KD does most especially in the Olympics is go in the post either scoring over 1v1 easily or drawing doubles and finding shooters and cutters. Same in the NBA his whole career. Just because of his skinny frame you are dismissive like he doesn’t do it. I have watched all Olympics games and NBA games to know what he does. If you are oblivious to the reality u shouldn’t be here. Right now why USA is struggling is basically they don’t have that and they thought maybe Embiid can provide it but he hasn’t and everyone else is not either.
@yetundeadeyemi2436Ай бұрын
@@Hones1Truth they aren't struggling first of all and they aren't struggling cause of kd wdym
@robbietyson4024Ай бұрын
Word trassh
@howitzdone8992Ай бұрын
Way to soon for Pen to be back up here
@pensarebasketballАй бұрын
What's your VORP bro?
@howitzdone8992Ай бұрын
@@pensarebasketball I lead the league
@MarzTalksSportsАй бұрын
@@howitzdone8992he cooked u ngl
@howitzdone8992Ай бұрын
@@MarzTalksSports might be time for me to retire then if I’m getting cooked by pen
@howitzdone8992Ай бұрын
Marz how u feel abt kelel ware? Been wanting to hear this, anybody else can awnser 2
@MarzTalksSportsАй бұрын
Hes ab what i expected,good touch on floaters and inbetween game,good play finisher,shooting upside potentially,very good shot blocker and extreme length on the inside,needs to get stronger and hopefully improve laterally. also the i think he has awareness issues not motor
@howitzdone8992Ай бұрын
@@MarzTalksSports the floater is one of the most important shots in basketball rn IMO feel like it’s hard to take away, still think he isn’t that good of a shooter as his 40 percent in college last year would suggest.
@MarzTalksSportsАй бұрын
@@howitzdone8992 i agree on both points
@buckiszАй бұрын
Y'all really think Australia would be close in a real game? These players are not about to. hurt themselves in a scrimmage. Giddy is not going to be doing nothing in the league next year. They were down by more than 20 in the third qtr. Stop playing.
@thatBRUDDA.Ай бұрын
USA aren’t as invincible as you think bud
@ch0keart1stАй бұрын
KD being the first option makes me sick
@buckiszАй бұрын
The best players know what they are going to do before the get the ball. Do y'all understand that simple concept? Giddy is average and can't shoot. Down hill? Who is he shaking/crossing over? He won't be starting at point in Chicago. That's Coby White's team. Stop the cap.
@birdo9039Ай бұрын
Your wrong. Just watch him this season
@tc6025Ай бұрын
Wait for next season
@leeko1ardaАй бұрын
Coby can play the 2 and giddey at point
@buckiszАй бұрын
@@leeko1arda Huh. He can't beat no one off the dribble and he can't guard anyone, stop the cap.
@kuramakurta9780Ай бұрын
Buddie got a kid y'all peak father behavior in the chat yo
@OKCTexanАй бұрын
They gotta get great value fluent outta here bro corny asf
@buckiszАй бұрын
Giddy glazers saying he's going to be balling in chicago. Y'all got jokes. He can't shoot and he can't guard anyone. He should never have been starting in okc. Talk about Nepo players?