Who Should Be Batman AFTER Bruce Wayne?

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@comiclads
@comiclads 3 ай бұрын
Who should be Batman AFTER Bruce Wayne? 🤔🦇 Let us know, Lads👇
@OwenRowell-p6h
@OwenRowell-p6h 3 ай бұрын
Tim
@sboinkthelegday3892
@sboinkthelegday3892 3 ай бұрын
Definitely Man, the Idea is not something Batman should ever be. Just some dude with a rich parent, that's always how this heroism imagery of noblity works so well.
@huntertezz
@huntertezz 3 ай бұрын
Cassandra Cain and Damian (like it or not he has several futures where he becomes a good Batman). Definitely not Tim. He can't handle the pressure.
@Seth35Baller
@Seth35Baller 3 ай бұрын
Jean Paul from knightfall I thought he was great
@ironman6550
@ironman6550 3 ай бұрын
Cassandra Kane
@propelledraccoon7185
@propelledraccoon7185 3 ай бұрын
I think Tim Drake is the most logical choice, but I have a head cannon that Batman will die and Gotham will embrace its other heroes and instead of getting another Batman, we will get a Gothams finest type beat with the bat family
@zarekodynski9077
@zarekodynski9077 3 ай бұрын
Honestly this is what should happen imo. I think that letting a character die and be succeeded by their pupils who are their own character is a good thing. I do not like the whole "there always has to be a Batman" thing that turns Batman into a mantle or idea rather than a person.
@MikeRitiques
@MikeRitiques 3 ай бұрын
There was a comic where Tim became Batman and he became a psycho murderer
@propelledraccoon7185
@propelledraccoon7185 3 ай бұрын
@MikeRitiques I read it. I hated it because I feel like it wasn't a great portrayal of what Tim has been set up as and where it seems DC wants him to go. As the boys said, out of the current bat family, he is the most batman, than any of them.
@comiclads
@comiclads 3 ай бұрын
That’s actually a very interesting idea. We dig it🔥
@fdjtron1732
@fdjtron1732 3 ай бұрын
​@@MikeRitiques that's because this version of Tim had his own "Death in the Family" but unlike Bruce he didn't get help
@Xehanort10
@Xehanort10 3 ай бұрын
7:14 The only thing they shouldn't have done with Terry was retcon him into being Bruce's son. Him being a former criminal who became Batman to atone for his past was better. A character doesn't have to be related to Bruce by blood or adoption to be Batman.
@justyouraveragejoe9454
@justyouraveragejoe9454 3 ай бұрын
I don't think that was a retcon, I genuinely believe that was the plan from the start. Two red headed parents had two black haired boys who resemble Bruce? It probably would have been part of the continuity for the show if it hadn't gone off the air after Season 3.
@comiclads
@comiclads 3 ай бұрын
It was a bit of a weird twist making it seem like it was planned rather than a happy accident🤔
@chazarcola7639
@chazarcola7639 3 ай бұрын
​​​@@justyouraveragejoe9454 So Terry's younger brother Matt is also Bruce's son ?? Amanda Waller thought of everything.
@justyouraveragejoe9454
@justyouraveragejoe9454 3 ай бұрын
@@chazarcola7639 Yeah actually. That was part of the trick Amanda Waller did with Warren's DNA.
@ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΑ-ε1ω
@ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΑ-ε1ω 3 ай бұрын
@@chazarcola7639 yes
@mitch-TO
@mitch-TO 3 ай бұрын
Cassandra Cain and Tim Drake should work together to be Batman. She’s out doing the fighting and he’s the man in the chair. Batman is ultimately a symbol and a legend, so there’s no reason he couldn’t be made of multiple people.
@shadowjohn29
@shadowjohn29 3 ай бұрын
Honestly, I feel Damian doesn’t get enough credit. Initially, I hated him-his introduction was designed to make him unlikeable, and the writing succeeded in that. However, over time, his character has undergone such a dramatic transformation that he’s now my favorite Bat-family member, second only to Dick. While I agree he might not be the best choice to become Batman, it’s not so much about his desire to take on the mantle, but more about how his current arc makes striving for it seem like a regression. His decision to break away from Bruce for a period of time is what allowed him to grow and detach himself from being just Batman’s son or Ra's al Ghul’s grandson. In many ways, given how well he works with Dick, succeeding him as Nightwing might be the better role for him.
@cabbagecart-u3x
@cabbagecart-u3x Ай бұрын
tbh damian should either become his own vigilante like all the robins did when they graduated from the mantle, or become a painter who lives in the countryside with his roommate being jon kent. i think making him batman would be ghoulish, seeing as hes lived in his family legacy's shadow his entire life. a damian nightwing is awesome, the black and red suit was practically made for him. hard agree :D
@michaelthecinebro
@michaelthecinebro 3 ай бұрын
Terry is like if Zuko from Avatar and Spiderman had a baby and it became Batman.
@mjama2132
@mjama2132 18 күн бұрын
Huh😊
@polketex5043
@polketex5043 3 ай бұрын
Terry Mcginnis is the only right answer obviously. Batman Beyond showed it works and he's definitely a combination of Batman and Spiderman.
@user-vt3vo1yd3v
@user-vt3vo1yd3v 3 ай бұрын
terry is a shit batman, that’s what it showed. He constantly needs bruce for everything. Terrible choice and is carried entirely by his suit.
@emanuelsonJnr
@emanuelsonJnr 3 ай бұрын
​@@user-vt3vo1yd3vHe saw a Father Figure in Bruce.
@ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΑ-ε1ω
@ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΑ-ε1ω 3 ай бұрын
@@user-vt3vo1yd3v clearly you need to watch the series again he is great
@Big_Div
@Big_Div 3 ай бұрын
@@user-vt3vo1yd3vwell he just started out he’s not trained for years like Bruce and when there’s someone who has done the job for years then you might as well learn from them cause they know a thing or two
@thelonelywolff
@thelonelywolff 3 ай бұрын
​@user-vt3vo1yd3v typical throw away account saying dumb shit as always
@jameslowe884
@jameslowe884 3 ай бұрын
Tim Drake & Terry Mcginnis are the most fitting choices for Bruces successor I think. But I feel like if you wanted to have both somehow exists, you could say Bruce finally wins his war on Gotham's crime & corruption and finally retires, allowing himself that happy ending with whoever he ends up with while Tim becomes his immediant succesor as Batman while maybe 20 to 30 years down the track Terry still becomes the Batman of the future.
@comiclads
@comiclads 3 ай бұрын
That would definitely be the best outcome. Bruce deserves a happy ending but Gotham is RELENTLESS with crime ☹️🦇
@jameslowe884
@jameslowe884 3 ай бұрын
@@comiclads Oh completely, crime never sleeps in gotham or dies for that matter. But I feel like Bruce Wayne's time as Batman if we was to save Gotham would have such an impact, its crime would never be able to recover or at least be as big as it was during Bruces era.
@TwistedLullabies
@TwistedLullabies 3 ай бұрын
Damian Wayne was a great Batman in DCeased
@empty_melodies
@empty_melodies 3 ай бұрын
9:50 “We need a BB animated movie” Batman Beyond Return of the Joker: Am I a joke to you?
@Watermelon_Man
@Watermelon_Man 3 ай бұрын
They clearly mean a NEW one that will benefit from modern marketing.
@xavierrodriguez666
@xavierrodriguez666 3 ай бұрын
@@Watermelon_ManLike what the makers of the Spider-Verse movies were going to do. It would’ve been really cool if they could still make that movie🥰
@bluefingerz219
@bluefingerz219 2 ай бұрын
@@xavierrodriguez666a dream come true.
@patch8079
@patch8079 3 ай бұрын
Im surprised you guys haven't brought up cassandra cain in this video. Would love to hear ur guys thoughts on her as Batmans successor.
@ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΑ-ε1ω
@ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΑ-ε1ω 3 ай бұрын
she can be Batwoman
@Step43099
@Step43099 Ай бұрын
@@ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΑ-ε1ωdoes it actually matter
@ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΑ-ε1ω
@ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΑ-ε1ω Ай бұрын
@@Step43099 yes it does she can be Batwoman or something new But what she can't be is Batman because Batman ends with MAN as a woman myself I WANT MORE FEMALE HEROES WHAT I DON'T WANT IS HANDOUTS
@Step43099
@Step43099 Ай бұрын
@@ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΑ-ε1ω Not really. A handout implies she didn't work for it
@MILOPETIT
@MILOPETIT 7 күн бұрын
​@@Step43099 Honestly how awesome would it be if she was just BATMAN. As far as the villains would know, Batman just got even moodier because he doesn't even talk now
@lazarustactical1363
@lazarustactical1363 3 ай бұрын
Can't believe y'all left out Cassandra Cain.
@kaior1
@kaior1 3 ай бұрын
His name is bat man not bat women
@lazarustactical1363
@lazarustactical1363 3 ай бұрын
@@kaior1 Just call her The Bat. She's a better fighter than any of the other candidates and incredibly devoted to Batman's mission.
@TwistedLullabies
@TwistedLullabies 3 ай бұрын
She's not male
@jowoman7799
@jowoman7799 3 ай бұрын
​@@TwistedLullabies So?
@TwistedLullabies
@TwistedLullabies 3 ай бұрын
@@jowoman7799 So she can't be Batman
@jj-reads
@jj-reads 3 ай бұрын
They have put a lot of effort into Damian’s growth since 2021. I also believe strongly that Damian should not become Batman, but I get the sense he doesn’t even want it anymore. He’s come so far from what Grant Morrison intended for the character. In the same way that Dick has taken everything he learned from Batman to establish his own legacy, I think Damian is following that pattern. He’s not just Batman’s legacy. He’s Talia’s too. To choose one or the other wouldn’t truly reflect who he is, and I think Damian realizes that at this point in time. Aside from in the Wonder Woman backups, I wonder if this change in Damian’s trajectory is why they’ve started pushing other characters to step into Batman’s legacy in his absence.
@travit666
@travit666 3 ай бұрын
4:39 Dick Grayson is literally what Bruce Wayne could be if he could just let go of his trauma from that night in crime alley That's what I've always liked about Nightwing he is what many would probably say is the true evolution of what Batman was always supposed to become and be but because of Bruce's trauma and clinging to it rather than trying to get past it it's drowned out what he wants could be
@scorpioproductions7068
@scorpioproductions7068 2 ай бұрын
Dick Grayson is Batman's greatest success, Jason is his greatest failure.
@MelchVagquest
@MelchVagquest 3 ай бұрын
Damian Wayne works as Batman as long as it's a What-if story about the future. I liked the idea of him selling his soul so that he could protect Gotham forever
@Beriorn
@Beriorn 3 ай бұрын
Tim Drake. Dick became Nightwing and something more, Jason works better doing what he does with a team like the Outlaws (even though he's the Batman of that team), Damian becomes his grandfather's heir as the leader of the League of Assassins, and Terry is something else entirely. But Tim has what it takes as a detective to pull it off, surpassing even Bruce in that department. And while he has known loss he was not broken by it like Bruce was.
@pianist150
@pianist150 3 ай бұрын
Agreed, Tim's whole character conception was that he's someone who realizes that Gotham needs a Batman and is willing to sacrifice his life to be Robin and make sure the legacy of Batman continues properly. The natural end to that imo is him becoming the actual Batman. I'd also accept Cass or the two of them handling the role together. I also don't hate Damian but I wouldn't prefer it
@MalwandlaNdlovu-cq2yx
@MalwandlaNdlovu-cq2yx 3 ай бұрын
​Both Tim and Cass would be really cool to see
@pianist150
@pianist150 3 ай бұрын
@@MalwandlaNdlovu-cq2yx It would make sense because I think she's the other one who's so committed to the idea of the mantle of the Bat and she and Tim could balance each other nicely. He's the social, high society, greatest detective on earth who's a great fighter but not a top one, she's the more subdued most lethal fighter on earth who is more capable of striking fear and incredibly smart but not a detective on the level of Tim or Dick or Babs
@darthrevan5976
@darthrevan5976 3 ай бұрын
​@MalwandlaNdlovu-cq2yx agreed Tim and Cass's dynamic in the pre new 52 era is my favourite in the batfamily I wish they had more team ups in newer comics
@MikeRitiques
@MikeRitiques 3 ай бұрын
Tim became a psycho murderer in the comics when he became Batman. I don't think deep don't he wants to be Batman
@Mazz83225
@Mazz83225 3 ай бұрын
In my dream DC universe it would be Tim Drake, and then when he reforms, his Robin: Helena (daughter of Bruce and Selina) becomes Batwoman (imagine Damian being so pissed XD) but years later goes missing. Her son Terry eventually finds out about his family's history and becomes Batman Beyond with the help of his old grandpa.
@cameronhogan7293
@cameronhogan7293 3 ай бұрын
For me the best Batman successor has gotta be Cassandra Cain
@taraishot100
@taraishot100 3 ай бұрын
No way dude lucky you’re not writing the comics
@jowoman7799
@jowoman7799 3 ай бұрын
​@@taraishot100 LOL Cassandra Cain is the best choice by far
@i.am.batman396
@i.am.batman396 3 ай бұрын
Cassandra’s female she should NOT be batMAN.
@MainProtagonist
@MainProtagonist 3 ай бұрын
In DC deceased Damian is already Batman. I like him in that comic run. But my top pick I would want is Dick Grayson as Batman but I know he doesn’t want it. Tim makes the most sense.
@The_Phantasm
@The_Phantasm 3 ай бұрын
Terry is the best Batman after Bruce, but he honestly doesn't fit in the continuity of the comics. He works best in the DCAU due to Bruce ending up without anything else which is not the case in the comics.
@azuresaiyan9005
@azuresaiyan9005 3 ай бұрын
The comics timeline can work if it’s only established as a possible future and not the definitive one. Same logic as 2099 for the Marvel universe .
@ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΑ-ε1ω
@ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΑ-ε1ω 3 ай бұрын
i agree
@travit666
@travit666 3 ай бұрын
0:07 My opinion is Dick Grayson is the only logical choice The only issue with that is he's made it on his own as Nightwing so people might feel having him step up to be Batman would be misstep on him personally I feel that if Bruce ever died and Dick was forced to take the mantle up again and it was permanent he could make the bat symbol represent hope and justice rather than fear and vengeance like Bruce. I feel with dick as Batman in Gotham given the time he could wipe out crime in Gotham entirely or at least as close as it could ever get closer than Bruce could ever get also most of the heroes in the universe have nothing but the utmost respect for dick they would follow him into battle and listen to his commands without a second thought because he garners just that much respect amongst everyone He's the perfect mix of Batman and Superman he was trained by Bruce to be one of the best combatants in the DC universe And in terms of hopefulness and goodness he could be the one person that rivals Superman in that aspect
@dremabry7983
@dremabry7983 3 ай бұрын
I also like how Terry is actually Bruce son from what waller did to his dad that makes Terry even more of a good successor for the batman mental
@danterose6673
@danterose6673 3 ай бұрын
I'd say Terry because with him being Batman still feels like his own thing. When the robins step into the mantle it feels like they are just keeping it warm. I think its more interesting in taking them on route to discover themselves outside of Batman.
@taraishot100
@taraishot100 3 ай бұрын
Dick graysons time as Batman is heavily being underestimated dude wore that cowl and for a moment was the perfect Batman
@kraig_meister2702
@kraig_meister2702 3 ай бұрын
Fairly new to your channel but long time Batman fan. I absolute,y agree with your takes, lads!
@comiclads
@comiclads 3 ай бұрын
Welcome to the Lads 🫡❤️ thanks for watching!
@supermrmainman
@supermrmainman 3 ай бұрын
Between the Robins, Batwing, Terry McGinnis, and Azrael, there may be a queue of successors lined up
@travisherndon94
@travisherndon94 3 ай бұрын
Well to play devil's advocate with Jason i think he could be a good batman. Especially where he's at currently where he's not that blood thirsty anymore killing people left and right. There have been storylines where Jason used rubber bullets and just beat the person into submission as opposed to killing them. He knows how criminals work and how the underbelly of crime moves and operates. I mean he would be a more well trained, calmer version of Thomas Wayne batman but knows when to dish out the pain and know when to hold back.
@dazzlethestar151
@dazzlethestar151 3 ай бұрын
Honestly agreed, Jason has definitely improved himself. While I don't think he's the best choice, he shouldn't be completely out of the question.
@rogue9658
@rogue9658 3 ай бұрын
Haven’t finished the video yet. My vote has always been Terry, especially with Justice League Unlimited further developing Terry and Bruce in the epilogue episode. Terry will always be my vote for Batman after Bruce.
@Pie_Yow_Comme_Ca
@Pie_Yow_Comme_Ca 3 ай бұрын
I think it would be interesting to see a story where the Return of the Joker events happen, but instead of kid Tim, he’s grown and has taken the mantle of Batman. The Bat Family, including Nightwing come to his aid, and everything happens as it was shown, Joker’s death included. Dick acknowledging something like this being why he never took up the mantle, and that’s what leads to Bruce creating the Batman Beyond suit for himself. Knowing Gotham needs a Batman, but no longer willing to let someone else take the role, until the events of Batman Beyond start
@JkidGetrekt
@JkidGetrekt 3 ай бұрын
I liked the way the Batman beyond comic did the future with terry being Batman and Damien taking over the league and I always pictured Damien leading them to a good path and like a small army that works for the force of good like a new “Batman incorporated” but they spread across the world
@Revali69420
@Revali69420 2 ай бұрын
Love the new beyond mod in the Arkham knight gameplay
@reubenwatson2842
@reubenwatson2842 3 ай бұрын
I would like to see Damian Wayne become batman after his father. It will further his development. We have a good example of him being batman in the deceased story.
@khalilboykin
@khalilboykin 3 ай бұрын
Terry hands down 👍🏼👍🏼
@TheFreakinRican123
@TheFreakinRican123 3 ай бұрын
I just read some Batman Beyond comics last week where he helped the original Trinity take down the Justice Lords. A great read which is peak Terry if anybody gets a chance. Entirely underrated as a carrier of the Batman mantle and its criminal how little DC does with him!
@ems-3828
@ems-3828 3 ай бұрын
which issue?
@TheFreakinRican123
@TheFreakinRican123 3 ай бұрын
@@ems-3828 I picked it up in back issues. I think it’s New 52. Bin was 2012-2013. Batman Beyond Universe #9-12. Enjoy!
@BaithNa
@BaithNa 3 ай бұрын
If you think that Bruce inherently sees the worst in people, then you fundamentally misunderstand the character of Batman.
@laks786
@laks786 2 ай бұрын
I think he is cautious of people more than dick not seeing the worst in ppl rather worst case scenario
@nasarys3085
@nasarys3085 2 ай бұрын
The Man-Bat. A litteral bat in a bat costume could be so funny
@samuraibear5102
@samuraibear5102 3 ай бұрын
I like terry as batman but he only really works if everything has gone wrong in Bruce's life
@23Raind
@23Raind Ай бұрын
Terry!
@Iron.Citadel
@Iron.Citadel 3 ай бұрын
The thing is they don’t have the guts to end the stories and start fresh. They’ve tried several times with refreshes, future state, etc but the fans are also stuck in the past which hurts the brands. This is the major reason manga is so compelling. The characters go on arcs and then the story ends (for the most part lmao). I honestly don’t know how many more times I can read Batman fights Joker. The story needs an ending. Even reading Joker War it’s clear the writers know this too. But of course the best answer is indeed Tim.
@yaboyospoons7570
@yaboyospoons7570 3 ай бұрын
If Bruce dies in Gotham, it should definitely be Tim. He's the most sound guy for the job and can eventually pass the mantle to Damien if he wants it. If Bruce doesn't die, Terry McGinnis is the best decision. It will show that Batman worked. A world was created where someone chose to be Batman rather than was forced into it in a manner of speaking. And Bruce taking on the role of Oracle to help guide Terry as he learns "How to Batman" is the best ending for him because he'd still be Batman, just letting someone who wants to do the field work do so.
@k.bermejo7334
@k.bermejo7334 3 ай бұрын
Tim Drake
@zandisiwetayi9977
@zandisiwetayi9977 3 ай бұрын
some people won't like this, but from a practical standpoint, it would be Damian. he's the most well-balanced in terms of what he can do he could borrow a bit from his Kingdom Come counterpart and take over the League, then combine its resources with Batman Inc. when he returns to finally take on the cowl.
@silverwolf3180
@silverwolf3180 3 ай бұрын
I agree that Terry McGinnis would be a good idea for Batman in my opinion
@uhwaykin
@uhwaykin 3 ай бұрын
All of them. The absence of Bruce’s Batman won’t be filled by one heir. Tim becomes the International Batman, using his genius to keep an eye on the bigger picture and lead his siblings. Jason becomes Gotham’s Batman, redeeming himself and honoring the father he so often found himself struggling to embrace or be embraced by. Damian becomes a sort of mystic/Justice League Dark Batman, using the blood of the demon and his resources as the demon’s head to manage supernatural threats. Dick remains Nightwing, strictly offering guidance and support to his brothers as he did for his father unless called upon to put on the cowl because Nightwing is Batman’s greatest success and the next evolution of the Batman.
@comiclads
@comiclads 3 ай бұрын
That’s actually a top notch answer
@uhwaykin
@uhwaykin 3 ай бұрын
@@comicladshey I appreciate that. this is one of those questions I’ve spent a lot of time thinking about and this is genuinely the best way I think it could work out.
@ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΑ-ε1ω
@ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΑ-ε1ω 3 ай бұрын
you forgot terry
@uhwaykin
@uhwaykin 3 ай бұрын
@@ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΑ-ε1ω I like Terry a lot, but to me he is a DCAU character and I don't really factor him into my thinking about prime canon.
@calebe4266
@calebe4266 3 ай бұрын
I think both Nightwing and Red hood already have a super hero title, so if they became batman they would lose part of their identity. But two characters that kinda have a identity issue and hate each other guts are Tim and Damian. I believe it would be really interesting to see Tim growing to become the new Batman while Damian step down to become his Robin, having a more brotherly dynamic than the father/son that we have with the OG. Than, after they get old, Terry becomes the new Batman and MAYBE Damian becomes the head of a new League of Shadows (one that incorporates more of Bruce's ideals than the ideals of Ra's)
@MalwandlaNdlovu-cq2yx
@MalwandlaNdlovu-cq2yx 3 ай бұрын
I think Tim Drake is the best choice to be the next Batman because Nightwing has become his own man and has become a established hero he does not need to be Batman while Jason and Damian are weaker choices
@WeebGuru6
@WeebGuru6 3 ай бұрын
I’m the ideal pick is terry u do this have Bruce retire have either Tim or Damien wavering as Batman hang up the mantle then terry come along and there we go also u can make Damien new alias be called shadow or streak
@BaithNa
@BaithNa 3 ай бұрын
Dick Grayson is the only real successor to Batman and even Bruce knows it. Dick is the only one with the respect of the rest of the DC pantheon, he's the most well adjusted and physically equipped to be Batman. Bruce even purposefully groomed Dick to eventually become a superior Batman because Dick is so well adjusted and level headed, unlike Bruce whose dealing with a ton of mental illnesses.
@waahooligan887
@waahooligan887 3 ай бұрын
Head Cannon: Tim Drake takes the mantle once Bruce is gone (not dead). *Tim* is the one that ends up old and isolated from the rest of the Bat family, (maybe Bruce's death drives a wedge between them) and helps/trains Terry into Batman just as we see in the BB animated series
@hacksawDDS
@hacksawDDS 3 ай бұрын
I'd say that Grayson was trained by Bruce to be a better man than him, like him yes, but without the sorrow and rage. I fully believe that Nightwing is the pinnacle of Bruce's work as a mentor and it should never be Grayson permanently.
@Hero-g7g
@Hero-g7g 3 ай бұрын
Terry McGinnis!
@juicewayne1
@juicewayne1 Ай бұрын
The Damian slander and Tim Drake glazing is insane 😂
@dazzlethestar151
@dazzlethestar151 3 ай бұрын
I personally think Tim and Terry are the best options. I think Tim would be the best choice for Bruce's initial successor, but in the future Terry would be more ideal. I like to imagine that in a universe where Tim becomes Batman, he either retires due to age, loss of motivation for the war on crime or an injury of some kind, and in time Terry becomes the newer future Batman, being trained by both Bruce and occasionally Tim.
@TheShockVox
@TheShockVox 3 ай бұрын
Dick’s run as Batman was actually very fun. But Tim, despite HIS personal hang up is the most logical choice to me.
@RussellMoffett
@RussellMoffett 3 ай бұрын
Jean-Paul Valley for sure
@williamblack2904
@williamblack2904 3 ай бұрын
Bruce retires in his 50’s, and Tim takes over for the next 30 years till he’s in his 50’s, and then Terry takes over, being mentored by an 80 year old Bruce and a 50 year old Tim.
@kudaseanruzvidzo943
@kudaseanruzvidzo943 3 ай бұрын
My head Canon is being the bat is hard so the lads share the load like the proper brothers they are. Everyone gets a turn but they also get lives separate from the cowl
@ryanallen627
@ryanallen627 3 ай бұрын
Honestly in comic universe id think maybe they all would dress as batman and take a district building up batman's supernatural element stopping crime at the same time as another batman making it see like batman can be anywhere kinda like a more of a level headed version of the sons of batman from the dark knight returns but I say my pick would be would Tim or Terry
@punkaintdead4977
@punkaintdead4977 Ай бұрын
It's Terry there is no debate. The Batman beyond story is the perfect batman successor story
@ADARSH_2005-p5z
@ADARSH_2005-p5z 3 ай бұрын
I know that everyone wants to be batman and every one thinks that they would be batman as comic lads sirs have told even i think they aree perfect for batman but my personal thought is that batman when he dies he would be surely a legend and he will be remebered wants to disturb the legend of the batman nobody can be batman nobody can be bruce wayne😁💗
@kevingluys3063
@kevingluys3063 3 ай бұрын
Enough of who is best, how about who would be strangest? Superman, the Joker, Killer Moth's daughter
@TheShockVox
@TheShockVox 3 ай бұрын
7:04 I think this is wrong. In fact I think WB told them they HAD to do a teenage Batman show and Bruce and crew hated the idea at first. But then as they thought more and more then they came up with what they did. So it was basically them turning something they thought was stupid into something they would enjoy. Also yall mentioned Dick not wanting to be Batman, and while I agree with that as well with Tim being the best pick; you all forget that Tim ALSO and maybe even more than Dick doesn’t want to be Batman.
@Rojiace
@Rojiace 3 ай бұрын
I am all for Terry ending up as Batman, but I don't think he should be the next in line for it. I think it would be better to have someone fill in that gap of time. Personally I am open to Tim Drake, as he embodies the qualities that people associate with a good Batman. As Batman is known in world as the World's Greatest Detective. I always feel like that should be a core element of the cape crusader next to the no killing rule.
@knoober3756
@knoober3756 3 ай бұрын
It comes down to Terry, Cass and Tim. Cass is the most like Batman in terms of her outlook and fighting prowess that has already surpassed him, Tim is like you mentioned the world’s greatest detective behind Batman, and Terry is the perfect opposite of Bruce but still has that darkness to be Batman. In my mind, in mainline comics it would probably be Cass cuz Tim ends up becoming a sociopath but if beyond is a factor it’s def Terry.
@jason15212
@jason15212 3 ай бұрын
While Dick is the most qualified clearly he is fit to be his own person he is Nightwing period point blank. Terry is the answer
@docproof26
@docproof26 3 ай бұрын
The Grim Knight and Jason Todd would get along 💯
@kaior1
@kaior1 3 ай бұрын
Terry
@OrthoJacko
@OrthoJacko 13 сағат бұрын
Freaking love these vids
@briandaleske5139
@briandaleske5139 3 ай бұрын
In addition I imagine within the same realm, a variant of 3rd. Robin aka Tim Drake Wayne, he chose to become the next NightWing. Plus I imagine within that same realm, a variant of Damian Wayne, he went from Robin, to becoming the Crimson-Robin. I also imagine as Crimson-Robin, he uses his assassin skills, along with the knowledge, and what was taught to him by his father To very carefully, to take down the most dangerous villains without killing them, by crippling them in the most unbelievable ways.
@toren2099
@toren2099 Ай бұрын
Terry only terry
@fdjtron1732
@fdjtron1732 3 ай бұрын
Tim Drake as Batman and Cassandra Cain as Batwoman
@ericlayton8888
@ericlayton8888 3 ай бұрын
I personally prefer the idea of Cass helping Damian reform the League of Assassins
@fdjtron1732
@fdjtron1732 3 ай бұрын
@@ericlayton8888 to each their own
@tylordeboer7610
@tylordeboer7610 3 ай бұрын
Personally I like a Bruce -> Dick -> Damien -> Terry succession line.
@SpookyGhostGoku
@SpookyGhostGoku 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely insulted that Jarro isn’t in this conversation.
@DorkNight5555
@DorkNight5555 3 ай бұрын
Man I wish WB said yes to the spider verse style Batman beyond movie
@4bia301
@4bia301 3 ай бұрын
How about Cassandra Cain?
@kaior1
@kaior1 3 ай бұрын
She's a girl...
@REDVOLT400
@REDVOLT400 3 ай бұрын
Terry, or any of the robins. That’s my answer. I’m leaning more towards Terry
@midnighttomato3829
@midnighttomato3829 3 ай бұрын
For me personally, it always comes down to Tim Drake and Cassandra Cain. Dick doesn't want it. Jason CAN'T do it. (And I shouldn't really have to explain why.) Damien is still too undeveloped in my opinion to have earned it, and also just... no. I really like the scene in the "Batman: Beyond the White Knight" story by Sean Murphy, where Bruce has escaped prison and is looking for one of his safehouses. He's got a computerized version of Jack Napier in his head (long story), and Jack seems surprised by how careful and methodical he is. Bruce responds; "You and all your friends thought I was just a guy in body armor looking to brawl." You keep forgetting I was mostly a detective." That line has stuck with me as quintessentially Batman, and that's why Tim is the top choice. Batman is the World's Greatest Detective, and that will always be who he is. Beyond the tech, the fighting skills, the legacy, any of that; he's a man who solves crimes. And that is Tim's whole thing! He is Bruce's successor as a detective. Batman originated in "Detective Comics," and that's how he should be. My top pick will always be Tim. Cassandra Cain is a purely biased pick, because she is my favorite batfamily member. First off, gonna say it, Batman is a symbol, not a gender. Anyone can do it. Your average Gotham citizen or criminal usually sees Batman as a cryptid or shadow, so they wouldn't even know she was a woman under the cowl, especially if she's rocking a voice modifier. Cass has the best fighting skills of any of Batman's proteges, her relationship with Bruce is so wholesome and touching (when DC remembers she's his adopted daughter and not just another sidekick to throw into crossovers) and to spin off of what I said about detectives earlier; I swear there was a run where she was learning to retool her "combat perception" into forensic skills, which would be an incredible ability as a detective. If that didn’t happen, egg on my face and I own up to it, but I frankly love the idea. In my headcanon, Cass is Batman. The only reason I don’t consider Terry is because he originates from the DCAU, not mainline continuity. The DCAU is an amazing group of shows, and they were an introductory to the DC Universe for a lot of fans. But they weren’t for everyone. Newer fans just getting into things haven't always caught up with it, and older fans may be conflating the two continuities too much in their heads. So I think there's a barrier to entry for Terry. On top of that, the idea of legacy is kinda lost with him. The person to put on the cowl after Bruce isn't one of his proteges after they've gone on a journey, it's some random kid. Also, call me a softie, but I always hoped Gotham would be a little brighter and more optimistic in a potential future, the opposite of Neo-Gotham. So Tim and Cass fit more in my opinion. And, from a storytelling perspective, watching either Tim or Cass struggle with the anxieties and problems of being Batman is so endlessly interesting to think about, and I already watched through a show of Terry doing that. So I'd be interested in seeing something new. TLDR; My top choice is Tim, second up is Cass
@alexbg9658
@alexbg9658 3 ай бұрын
For me my head canon is, Dick is Batman directly after Bruce and Terry is the Batman when the Bat Family have aged and no longer physically able to do it. Plus I feel like people underestimate how much Dick came to enjoy being Batman.
@benkalem
@benkalem 3 ай бұрын
Terry McGinnis proved to be not only worthy, but in some ways better, than Bruce. Obviously, that is largely due to having Bruce being his mentor. Tim Drake, I think, is a similar kind of character, to Terry. He understands what the mantle of the Batman means, what it requires, and he has been able to learn from both the successes and failures of Bruce, and the rest of the Bat Family. He is not only the logical choice, he is the best choice.
@ultron_sigma
@ultron_sigma 3 ай бұрын
Terry McGinnis hands down. Unlike the rest of the batfamily, he shares the same ideals as the original batman while doing his own thing
@memetoze4291
@memetoze4291 3 ай бұрын
I love your comic book videos
@slimrai5781
@slimrai5781 3 ай бұрын
9:52 THEY WERE GOING TO MAKE A MOVIE BUT THEY CANCELLED IT!!
@gingyman99
@gingyman99 3 ай бұрын
it should be me
@Seth35Baller
@Seth35Baller 3 ай бұрын
Jean Paul from Knightfall was great
@djwolfenstein
@djwolfenstein 3 ай бұрын
Terry Mcginnis. He is able to have a better life than Bruce and was willing to become Batman. Dick openly doesn't want to be batman. Tim is the second best choice while Jason shouldn't because he is too willing to kill as well as Damien
@TyAllyn_BeastBeats
@TyAllyn_BeastBeats 2 ай бұрын
They need to make a live action Batman Beyond. Fr.
@NotoriousTim
@NotoriousTim 3 ай бұрын
My boy Terry McGinnis. I've always had a soft spot for him and that show.
@comiclads
@comiclads 3 ай бұрын
It’s iconic🦇🏙️
@billlewis8765
@billlewis8765 3 ай бұрын
To me Damian makes the most sense! Besides the fact he’s his son he is definitely fitting of Batman! You guys need to give him a better chance and read some more Damian stories!
@briandaleske5139
@briandaleske5139 3 ай бұрын
I imagine in a different realm, a variant of Richard “Dick” Greyson, he chose to take up the mantle, after Bruce’s death. I also imagine many years later, a clone was made of him, who became Future-Batman aka (Batman Beyond).
@niccoloproia3678
@niccoloproia3678 3 ай бұрын
I don't agree on the statement that Batman always sees the worst in people while Dick doesn't. The only times i saw Batman expecting the worst from people was when one of his villains exited Arkham/Blackgate cause of a sudden change of heart (like with Penguin in Love Bird) but to be honest can you blame him? How many times another of his villains used the same trick just be free and return to their usual shenanigans? When Batman isn't written like a rabid control freak that keeps tabs even on his dog i would say he's one of DC's most hopeful characters, after all he proposed Joker to help him for rehabilitation in the Killing Joke. P.S. As for the question posed in the video i think no one should inherit the mantle: - Damian will understand, sooner or later, that his desire to succeed Batman wasn't natural but forced since childbirth and will move on (like Nightwing) - We all know that Jason isn't suited to become the next Batman, he'll be an Azbat 2.0 - We all saw what happens when Nightwing inherits the mantle in Prodigal Son, Dick simply isn't built to hold Bruce's mantle (i'm not talking from a physical pov but a mentality one) and it would hurt his character development since it's from Wolfman's Teen Titans that Dick tries to escape Bruce's shadow - Tim is surely the best option of the Robin bunch but again i don't believe (much like Dick) that he has the mental fortitude to keep the cowl - the only problem i have with Terry is that the setting he has in Batman Beyond to become the new Batman doesn't fit well with the entire Bat-family concept, how is that possible that all of Batman's loved ones abandoned him? I can understand it in the Timmverse cause that Bat-family was very limited in numbers and all of them have a reason to stay away from Bruce (especially Dick thanks to Bruce Timm's kinks) but in the comics? Nah, Bruce won't be alone when he'll grow older, it'll completely undermine the entire development of Bruce's evolution in Batman Knightfall
@senamsenaya8804
@senamsenaya8804 Ай бұрын
Tim Drake is too underrated as a fighter. He was trained by not only batman but lady shiva as well.
@Tayo2742
@Tayo2742 3 ай бұрын
Terry McGuinness is the best choice to become the Batman, I think one of the reasons he’s such a good Batman is because he wasn’t a robin
@rabronin
@rabronin 3 ай бұрын
No one likes Damien and yet we're getting him in the upcoming Brave and Bold movie. Amazing...
@crisisamonginfinitedarthsa4220
@crisisamonginfinitedarthsa4220 3 ай бұрын
I would prefer Barbara Gordon to be the leader of the Batfamily once Bruce retires or passes on.
@kaior1
@kaior1 3 ай бұрын
She's in a wheel chair..
@abiodunsulaiman2297
@abiodunsulaiman2297 3 ай бұрын
@@crisisamonginfinitedarthsa4220 nah, oracle works best as a helper to the entire DC universe
@jowoman7799
@jowoman7799 3 ай бұрын
​@@kaior1 She's not
@randomnerdythings9094
@randomnerdythings9094 Ай бұрын
Who should take up the mantle of the bat? Nobody. Just let Tim Drake's Robin become Gotham's new protector, leading an all new Bat family (or Robin Family). Batman is a deeply flawed concept. Nightwing is what Batman should be. But Robin, Tim Drake's Robin to be precise, is the hero Gotham needs An argument could be made for Terry, but if I were to make a DC universe, he wouldn't be introduced until long after Tim is an old man, no longer physically capable of being Robin
@MikeRitiques
@MikeRitiques 3 ай бұрын
Tim became a murderer in the rebirth comics when he became Batman i dont think hes got it in him
@JaredHight-g4e
@JaredHight-g4e 3 ай бұрын
I enjoyed Batman beyond, but I honestly don’t think terry did that good a job. If he didn’t have a cyber suit he would’ve been in the hospital for how bad at fighting he was, and if he didn’t have Bruce or Sam he wouldn’t’ve gotten very far on the detective side. Maybe he does better in the comics but I haven’t read any of those. And those are problems I don’t think any of the other bat protégées would’ve had: Dick could hold his own in a fight even against super powered foes and Tim was nearly Batman’s intellectual equal. Granted I can cut terry some slack since it seemed like it was his first year on the job, and he was relying on natural talent instead of training, but at the end of the day he got lucky in a lot of departments. Honestly this seems a bit random but I think Jason Tod is the best Batman successor, because he’s the only one who can get as dark as Bruce and has the skills and intimidation to pull it off. I feel that we could get a dark ark of the Batman who kills before something or someone happens to Tod to force him to confront himself and chill out, because he’s not an irredeemable psycho he has just put himself on the opposite side of Batman ideologically because of a very traumatic event. And if something were to happen that could snap him out of the red hood mindset he could be a good Batman, albeit one who is easier to sway back to the dark side.
@JesusFreak98
@JesusFreak98 3 ай бұрын
Terry McGinnis
@skizko6998
@skizko6998 3 ай бұрын
Anyone who says Dick should be Batman is wrong. Nightwing is the proper succession of Batman, taking what works and improving upon what doesn’t. The writers and the characters have made it explicitly clear that he doesn’t want the cowl and that having Dick as Nightwing is better for the world than having Dick as Batman. Among the robins Tim and Damian are the only logical choices, Cassandra is an even better choice if we choose to ignore sex/gender and include the batgirls. Terry with Carrie as Robin is the best choice but not one that’s always available
@The-Vr-Tiefling
@The-Vr-Tiefling 3 ай бұрын
If he’s aloud to kill then Jason Todd but tbf I will always prefer crime lord Jason
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