Who Was Lazarus?

[@danlhendl]

Who was Lazarus? Good question. I’m glad you raised it 😅

[@Bedonkabonk]

He definitely breathed new life into the question.

[@TheRealJohnnyKilroy]

Genius 😂

[@lauraahargreaves7783]

I appreciate the scholarship that goes into this talk, but appreciate that we see all of these through the dust of 2,000 years, written over and over by many hands who did not mind exaggerating or inventing stories, and even copying stories poorly. With all the wonderful stories of NDEs, that is people being near death, or actually being declared dead for a time, meeting Jesus or a being of light who greets them, have various experiences, then being sent back, maybe this is Jesus’ way of clarifying through them his message. So many of them change their lives completely after this, and are never afraid of death again.

[@davidfolts5893]

Thank you for your time and great detail you employ in your discussions.

[@travisfox5034]

Lazarus as the beloved disciple makes a lot of sense. After his resurrection he becomes the beloved, his name no longer Lazarus. It would also fit the belief that the beloved would not die but witness the second coming. Christ had already brought lazarus from death. It may have even, in the community, have given Lazarus almost mystical power, being the first to come back from death and so they don't speak his name from that point on. He has become the "Beloved" disciple instead. It also explains why the guards wanted the young man in linen when they came to seize christ. Caliphus wanted christ and Lazarus both crucified. I am a lay person, however this has always made sense to me and been my take on the issue. Raised southern Baptist it's not one we discussed much. I'm glad to finally have some affirmation that at least some others think the same way.

[@almazchati4178]

Lazarus was loved before his resurrection. Jesus delayed his visit. So loved but not so much. The character of John 21, can't be Lazarus because (1) he was already dead to be that character, (2) Peter and others questioned Jesus about his relationship with him, (3) Lazarus being at the last supper? I think Judas was the beloved one. There was no reason for Peter to be chastised. I think beloved can't refer to any body since it is further qualified as being present at the last supper leaning on Jesus.

[@travisfox5034]

@@almazchati4178 loved but not so much??? Where do you get that from? Jesus didn't "delay" his visit, but came to them not knowing of Lazarus being dead. He came to them in his own time as he ministered across the countryside. As soon as he hears Lazarus's sister weeping for Lazarus He stops her and immediately calls Lazarus forth. Sounds pretty loved to me. Who else did he love enough to bring forth from the dead? And the pure symbolism of Lazarus being dead 3 days already cannot be coincidence. It's a foreshadowing of what is to come for Christ. Which also lends credence to Lazarus as the Beloved. The character of beloved comes after Lazarus death. And the name of Lazarus isn't used again, even tho his sisters follow Christ. Surely Lazarus would have followed as well. It also explains why other apostles question the relationship and closeness (jealousy perhaps?)

[@almazchati4178]

@@travisfox5034 Watch the video again. First he gets the news that he is sick, a few days later he visits him to find that he is dead. Apparently he was in no hurry to visit him. He waited for him to die, knowing that he will bring back to life? He takes a crew with him for the visit as well. He was a showman. I am not sure if there are others restored to life. Lazarus can't be the only one who died during his lifetime. Everybody must be knocking on his door to bring back the loved ones, from all over the word. Why would Romans kill such a talent? I am sure they had a lot of loved ones. Are they out of their mind? This story must be fake.

[@almazchati4178]

@@travisfox5034Read again. You are distoring what is in there. Lazarus's woman folks reach out to him to help out the loved one. He thinks about it for 3 days and tells his disciples to pack up to go to see him. Whatever he was doing, he was busy. You are distorting what is in Gospel of John. John himself is said to be a brother of James who was a brother of Jesus, so he should be a brother of Jesus. Neither John himself or Lazarus can be the beloved disciple. The most likely candidate is Judas, who was present in the last supper. Apparently he was given life until the last return of Jesus, and should be alive now. These issues were very controversial among early Christians and were settled by force around 600 CE. The beloved was alive when John was writing his Gospel, 70 years later. Romans are not crazy enough to kill someone who can revive dead people. They had lots of dead soldiers to be revived. I am sorry for you but Bible is all crap.

[@J.B.Ram1]

​@almazchati4178 the Bible is a theological document, not a historical one. There will be some nuggets of truth in the gospels, so its not complete trash, but you have to interpret it very carefully, taking out all the supernatural and mythical elements. Just like Homer and the siege of Troy, or Shakespeare's Richard III

[@sebolddaniel]

Wonderful lecture.

[@ნატოსირბილაძე]

Lazarus is a symbol of risen people in jesus

[@adriennepatterson6113]

This is one of my favorites 😍

[@tonymessinajr]

In a culture where people actually never take a bath a baptism would definitely be a refreshing new thing that would make me feel happy and clean it's just very logical

[@gamejew38]

They had bathhouses my man. Jews always bathed

[@tonymessinajr]

Jews did not build that houses the Romans did that's all there is to it I'm not going to sit here and edit this stupid phone message to work, I'm just going to tell you that the Jews didn't have bathhouses they weren't known for that it was the Romans and other cultures that are clean that like today that don't sting that's who had bad houses and that's the Romans not the Jews

[@gamejew38]

@@tonymessinajr Dude, read the Torah. You will find numerous references to bathing for ritual purification... It is literally in the Jewish bible. Long before the Romans existed. In any case, those bath-houses were used by Jews and we have many references to that in the Mishna.

[@josepheridu3322]

Very weird the hate people have for people of the past yet not applied to native people today that still live like their ancestors thousands years ago. Bath was already very common and important in Judaism. Maybe cleaning your heart and mind from hateful ideas trying to feel superior to others is far more fruitful for you, though.

[@Tony-gg3nd]

So sad, the Jews hating the Muslims, the Christians hating the Jews, the Muslims hating the Jews and the Christians and the atheists reading books getting educated and laughing their heads off at the absurdity of it all.

[@Entropicalli]

Is it the holy spirit that is beckoned to perform the miracles though? I'd love a lecture on the holy sprit! Even though I was raised catholic, I really find it hard to understand how the holy spirit fits in.

[@adamfrederick4198]

I was curious. You mentioned the high priests wanted to kill Lazarus as well. I've never heard that said before and was wondering where you have heard or read that before

[@tc2851]

John 12:10 NIV So the chief priests made plans to kill Lazarus as well,

[@marcusdoolette1547]

Fascinating. Thank you John.

[@termination9353]

The Gospel of Jesus was originally one book, written by Lazarus in consultation with the Apostles [John 21:24] and published soon after Jesus left them on their own. The religion was hijacked by Rome, the Gospel was broken up scrambled adulterated into a bunch of competing narratives. Later four of those adulterated gospels were canonized with falsely ascribed authorship and a Gnosticism cover-story. It was the finding of an original Gospel of Jesus scroll in Jerusalem that gained the Knights Templar power over the Church and their eventual undoing when the church finally retaliated against them Friday 13th.

[@laurakryzanowski3193]

Thank you

[@annayosh]

We do not just have notes of the Secret Gospel of Mark (or rather, the supposed letter by Clement of Alexandria), but there are also two sets of photographs, black-and-white photographs by the supposed discoverer from 1958 and color photographs from 1983. What however is missing is the original document, so scientists have not been able to test the ink and paper to check whether it is from the 16th/17th century like the text it was said to be connected to or from the mid-20th century as it would be if it were a recent forgery.

[@HamerToronto]

Thanks for that correction.

[@termination9353]

The Gospel of Jesus was originally one book, written by Lazarus in consultation with the Apostles [John 21:24] and published soon after Jesus left them on their own. The religion was hijacked by Rome, the Gospel was broken up scrambled adulterated into a bunch of competing narratives. Later four of those adulterated gospels were canonized with falsely ascribed authorship and a Gnosticism cover-story. It was the finding of an original Gospel of Jesus scroll in Jerusalem that gained the Knights Templar power over the Church and their eventual undoing when the church finally retaliated against them Friday 13th.

[@kaiju4238]

@@termination9353 Nice conspiracy theory

[@termination9353]

@@kaiju4238 it's the Gospel narrative itself that says most of what I say.

[@kaiju4238]

@@termination9353 No man lol. This you said are not back up by scholarship

[@jamesdewane1642]

I really appreciate how this presenter lays things out. His graphics are great! I was surprised to hear that Matthew and Luke were nearly successful in their attempt to supplant Mark. When was Mark at its lowest ebb? Why was it nonetheless included in the canon? Who were its defenders? The book of Mark was what brought me back from having discarded Christianity entirely. Though synoptic with Mt and Lk, it leaves out the vengeful parts of Mt and doesn't pedestalize Jesus as much as Luke. There have been snippets in other videos, but I'd love to see a full exploration of what makes Mark distinctive from Paul, Mt, and Luke, theologically and otherwise. And I see Mark as consonant with what this presenter refers to as John 1. Look at all the times Jesus is unrecognized in John or when he is hidden or disappears. Does anyone else get the idea that the author wants you to realize that Jesus (or the Christ) is always where you least expect him? In fact in everyone you meet and also in yourself?

[@VSP4591]

The Gospel of Mark is the earliest Gospel. It was used as a blueprint for Mathew and Luck Gospels. It is the first Christian Gospel, after the letters of Paul.

[@jamesdewane1642]

@@VSP4591 Right. But it's the progression of ideas I'm interested in. Paul writes about his metaphysical experience of Jesus because he never knew him as a man, but he's in contact with those who did. Mark writes a carefully constructed narrative of physical Jesus, but leaves out the kind of experience Paul had of Jesus (except for the Transfiguration). What kind of audience did Luke have that needed a Jesus that performed miracles before he called followers? In Mark, Jesus has followers before he even ventures to say the good news in a synagogue. In Mark, Jesus is a human being discovering something and then going through an ordeal to make a point. In the other gospels the idea that Jesus might be learning as he goes is all washed out.

[@termination9353]

The Gospel of Jesus was originally one book, written by Lazarus in consultation with the Apostles [John 21:24] and published soon after Jesus left them on their own. The religion was hijacked by Rome, the Gospel was broken up scrambled adulterated into a bunch of competing narratives. Later four of those adulterated gospels were canonized with falsely ascribed authorship and a Gnosticism cover-story. It was the finding of an original Gospel of Jesus scroll in Jerusalem that gained the Knights Templar power over the Church and their eventual undoing when the church finally retaliated against them.

[@VSP4591]

@@jamesdewane1642 The Gospels had to answer to different challenges. In Mark, Jesus is becoming Son of God after baptism by John the Baptist in the waters of Jordan. In Math. and Luke he is becoming Son of God from the moment of birth. In John Gospel, Jesus is God from the beginning of time. It is a clear evolution of the Christology.

[@totorod]

Mark is the oldest of the canonical gospels isn’t it? I’ve always thought of it as probably the closest we’ve got to a historical account of Jesus’s ministry. It’s interesting in that the author of Mark seems to view Jesus as an apocalyptic prophet. I’ve seen and read many arguments that posit that Mark’s author, and the Christian community of that era (20 years after Jesus’s execution) believed that Jesus’s kingdom wouldn’t be a heavenly one, but an earthly one. That the Romans would be expelled from Judea and Jesus would rule over a restored and utopian kingdom of Judea.

[@barnabuskorrum4004]

I would attend "church" if the part where the priest talks, was more like this.

[@angelbaaldepeor3688]

Their job is to deceive you so keep on hoping.

[@Steve-u9k4p]

Superb

[@James-qo7uz]

I’m confused or need clarification. Does the gospel of John fore tell how long the “beloved disciple” will live twice or just once at the end of ch21? I thought the presenter said that the writer of John corrects a previous prediction that appeared earlier in John. Or is he correcting the prediction from previously written gospels only? I was looking through the book of John but couldn’t find a previous passage of the beloved disciple prediction of long life.

[@JB-lovin]

I’ve listened to many of these videos, enjoyed them and value the effort. My question is, why would any Bible scholar retain faith in the divinity of Jesus or the nature (or even the existence) of the Judeo-Christian god?

[@FD1111Ministries]

Thank you

[@Daniel5.14]

Thank God we have Paul’s letters that appear to be much more reliable than the Gospels!

[@MatthewKiehl]

Great talk! How early do you believe the "Signs Gospel" is? Dr Richard Carrier has said that he thinks the author of John does not like "the rich man and Lazarus" from Luke, and so this author is intentionally contradicting Luke about Lazarus.

[@JerrysDesciple]

It was a great discussion and presentation but home boy gives off some major Kane from Command and Conquer vibes

[@j77778]

So good

[@jamalbaraja6130]

In the council of Nicaea, they chose only the 4 gospels from amongst many. Why is that ? The trinitarians in the council chose the gospels and writings of of Paul who changed the teachings of Jesus.

[@irianscott1062]

yes, that was my own theory a while back; the Beloved Disciple is how we 'dial in' to the narrative.The 'resurrection' of Lazarus, or a reincarnation from the same soul in Luke, now a rich man in John's Gospel?

[@andrewsuryali8540]

John 1 and Luke were writing roughly at the same time. The dating of the Gospel of John we have now is based on the FINISHED Gospel of John, after John 2 messed with it. The John 1 additions predate this, so John 1 was very likely writing at the same time Luke was. It is possible that Luke's Lazarus is based on John's Lazarus but modified to fit Luke's understanding of theology. If we combine all the hypothesis presented in this video, we can set up a hypothesis like this: 1. There was either an older version of Mark or a tradition Mark and the writer of the Signs Gospel (if it exists) drew from. I am making a distinction between original Mark and Secret Mark because, as the video points out in passing, it's possible that Secret Mark (if it exists) was a gnostic revision of an older document, like our current Gospel of Thomas. This tradition said that there was a young man whom Jesus loved who had at least one sister. Drawing from another speculative hypothesis, this sister was probably named Mary originally. Maria and Martha in Greek are only different by one letter (iota in Mar[i]a, theta in Mar[th]a), and the name Maria (Miriam) was significantly more common than Martha (Marta, meaning mistress). This young man who was Mary's brother was resurrected from the dead in one form or another. Both original Mark and the Signs Gospel included the resurrection story in its original form as possibly recorded by Secret Mark. No Osiris elements. In the Signs Gospel, the resurrected man remained unnamed and was referred to as the "beloved disciple" throughout the text. It is possible that this "beloved disciple" or someone claiming to be him was an elder in the community the Signs Gospel was composed in, and that the Signs Gospel was written based on his "recollections" (or if we want to be more honest, big fish tales). 2. The editor of the Signs Gospel or John 1, writing in Egypt, was familiar with the story of Osiris, the two sisters, and all that. He modified the young man's resurrection story to reflect the Osiris legend that his contemporaries would have been familiar with. To this end, he doubled the number of sisters by simply changing one letter and he gave the beloved young man a name: Lazarus, based on Osiris' Egyptian name. He had to add the L (El) because any Coptic speaker would automatically have caught the real name otherwise. However, the rest of his document still used the unnamed "beloved disciple" from the Signs Gospel either because he didn't feel the need to change it or because he didn't dare to. It's possible that if we didn't have John 2 anyone reading John 1's edited version would have understood right away that the "beloved disciple" was this guy now named Lazarus. As an aside, the editor, or John 1, also ended up with two women doing the exact same thing, and actually probably confused them himself at one point if you read the current text carefully. 3. The writer of Luke got ahold of an early draft or version of John 1's work or probably a section from it and vehemently disagreed with the whole damn thing. However, he (or she) probably also knew the original Mark's story of the young man's resurrection or the tradition it was based on and decided to include some parts of it. Thus Mary and Martha and Lazarus made it into Luke. However, Luke's writer was a Pauline follower and Paul's entire theology rested on the idea that Jesus was the first to be resurrected from the dead. Therefore, a prior resurrection cannot exist in the story. As a result, Luke repurposed Lazarus' character and sent him straight to heaven (whew - could have been much worse). Mary and Martha became just another two women followers of Jesus. Luke probably also knew what Martha meant in Aramaic (mistress) and made her literally the mistress of the house who was busy serving Jesus while Mary sat down and listened to Jesus preach. 4. Jesus' resurrection primacy in Pauline doctrine may also be the reason why the story of the young man's resurrection was erased from current Mark, as the writer of our final version of Mark was definitely ALSO a Pauline follower. Mark was a bit iffy on theology so probably the original writer didn't realize the problem with the young man's resurrection story and had that pointed out to him or someone else realized this and edited the book. In any case, we can tell something got deleted because the deletion is very messy, and whatever it was is gone in our current version. 5. Some years later, John 2 got ahold of John 1's work and also vehemently disagreed with it, so he made some edits, which is why our Gospel of John ended up later on the timeline than Luke's. John 2's edits also made the "beloved disciple" a self-insert for the reader because John 2 didn't inherit the "beloved disciple" tradition directly (John 1 did) and he instead saw an opportunity to make the text resonate better with his audience.

[@irianscott1062]

@@andrewsuryali8540 very good points. much appreciated. Lazarus perhaps represents the earliest resurrection figure, AND, is the basis of Christ's own resurrection (hint, hint). That said, the Lazarus resurrection account sounds like a mystery cult, although the Fourth gospel is at pains to convince the reader that resurrection is totally corporal.

[@andrewsuryali8540]

@@irianscott1062 If you read the Secret Mark excerpt, it actually hints at a more mundane explanation. The young man died and was buried, his sister begged Jesus for help, Jesus angrily went to the tomb, opened it, and woke up the young man. THEN he spent 6 days with the young man. There is no time given between the young man's death and the "resurrection", unlike the 4 days given in the Lazarus account. This sounds like a case of misdiagnosis of death. It would also explain why Jesus was angry. He probably realized that the young man's doctors were being too hasty. The whole thing only becomes a true resurrection story in the Lazarus account, but that's because the Lazarus account is a plagiarized Osiris story. The original story was of a faith healer who was more competent than a rich kid's quack doctors.

[@willempasterkamp862]

@@andrewsuryali8540 you mean Brittannicus, right ?

[@sebolddaniel]

I wonder if Hey Jude has anything to do with Jude , the brother of James. You know they were as popular as God.

[@charlesiragui2473]

The name Lazar (Lazarus) comes from Eleazar or El-azar, "God helps". This an interesting name for both the resurrected Lazarus and the beggar Lazarus who receives a heavenly comfort.

[@LanceLovett]

The disciples of the apostles had "schools" they were in and many wrote anecdotally about what they saw and/or heard about what was taught by them. I would imagine that many times, something attributed to the apostles may have been penned by one of those students. It would have been hard for Paul for example to be saying all he said and writing at the same time. Just a thought.

[@JackRT3]

You raise a lot of intereting points that cover much territory. Question: Have you come to any conclusions of your own as to who Lazarus was? There's quite a movement now naming Lazarus as the Beloved Disciple, the author of a version of the fourth Gospel, and the leader of his Jesus Group.

[@irianscott1062]

why does Martha refer to Jesus as "the Teacher", after she says, pre-resurrection of Lazarus, she recognises him as the Christ, and Son of God? Did the Fourth Gospel up-load an earlier belief Jesus was a mere prophetic teacher, and not the Christ?

[@edgar-mmxxiii]

They know him well who he was right from the start, they call him Yeshua that is his real name in his human incarnation (Hebrew/Aramaic name I guess)

[@sebolddaniel]

So why Hades in Luke? Is it really where Luke's Lazarus goes? Very Greek. What is Abraham doing in Hades? Maybe he sees Achilles

[@bleirdo_dude]

John takes a parable in Luke and reverses the Lazarus theme from "neither will they be convinced even if someone rises from the dead" in Luke to "Many... had seen what Jesus did, believed in him" in John. Also in Luke there's no mention of the sisters having a brother named Lazarus, nor does Mark, or Matthew mention him (strange for a major miracle). Luke 10:38-39 "38 Now as they went on their way, he entered a certain village, where a woman named Martha welcomed him into her home. 39 She had a sister named Mary, who sat at the LORD's feet and listened to what he was saying." Luke 16:19-23, :27-31 "19 "There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and who feasted sumptuously every day. 20 And at his gate lay a poor man named Lazarus, covered with sores, 21 who longed to satisfy his hunger with what fell from the rich man's table; even the dogs would come and lick his sores. 22 The poor man died and was carried away by the angels to be with Abraham. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 In Hades, where he was being tormented, he looked up and saw Abraham far away with Lazarus by his side." "27 He said, 'Then, father, I beg you to send him to my father's house - 28 for I have five brothers - that he may warn them, so that they will not also come into this place of torment.' 29 Abraham replied, 'They have Moses and the prophets; they should listen to them.' 30 He said, 'No, father Abraham; but if someone goes to them from the dead, they will repent.' 31 He said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the prophets, neither will they be convinced even if someone rises from the dead."' John 11:1-4. :17, :38-45 "1 Now a certain man was ill, Lazarus of Bethany, the village of Mary and her sister Martha 2 Mary was the one who anointed the Lord with perfume and wiped his feet with her hair; her brother Lazarus was ill. 3 So the sisters sent a message to Jesus, "Lord, he whom you love is ill." 4 But when Jesus heard it, he said, "This illness does not lead to death; rather it is for God's glory, so that the Son of God may be glorified through it."" "17 When Jesus arrived, he found that Lazarus had already been in the tomb four days." "38 Then Jesus, again greatly disturbed, came to the tomb. It was a cave, and a stone was lying against it. 39 Jesus said, "Take away the stone." Martha, the sister of the dead man, said to him, "Lord, already there is a stench because he has been dead four days." 40 Jesus said to her, "Did I not tell you that if you believed, you would see the glory of God?" 41 So they took away the stone. And Jesus looked upward and said, "Father, I thank you for having heard me. 42 I knew that you always hear me, but I have said this for the sake of the crowd standing here, so that they may believe that you sent me." 43 When he had said this, he cried with a loud voice, "Lazarus, come out!" 44 The dead man came out, his hands and feet bound with strips of cloth, and his face wrapped in a cloth. Jesus said to them, "Unbind him, and let him go." 45 Many of the Jews therefore, who had come with Mary and had seen what Jesus did, believed in him." Note: In the synoptics the Jewish leaders plot to kill Jesus because of the Temple incident, but in John it's the raising of Lazarus. Here's the fishy story of Saul's/Paul's conversion. 🐟 Acts 9:3-8 "3 Now as he was going along and approaching Damascus, suddenly a light from heaven flashed around him. 4 He fell to the ground and heard a voice saying to him, "Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?" 5 He asked, "Who are you, Lord?" The reply came, "I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting. 6 But get up and enter the city, and you will be told what you are to do." 7 The men who were traveling with him stood speechless because they heard the voice but saw no one. 8 Saul got up from the ground, and though his eyes were open, he could see nothing; so they led him by the hand and brought him into Damascus." 2 Maccabees 3:23-28 "23 Heliodorus went on with what had been decided. 24 But when he arrived at the treasury with his bodyguard, then and there the Sovereign of spirits and of all authority caused so great a manifestation that all who had been so bold as to accompany him were astounded by the power of God, and became faint with terror. 25 For there appeared to them a magnificently caparisoned horse, with a rider of frightening mien; it rushed furiously at Heliodorus and struck at him with its front hoofs. Its rider was seen to have armor and weapons of gold. 26 Two young men also appeared to him, remarkably strong, gloriously beautiful and splendidly dressed, who stood on either side of him and flogged him continuously, inflicting many blows on him. 27 When he suddenly fell to the ground and deep darkness came over him, his men took him up, put him on a stretcher, 28 and carried him away - this man who had just entered the aforesaid treasury with a great retinue and all his bodyguard but was now unable to help himself. They recognized clearly the sovereign power of God." Acts 9:17-19 "17 So Ananias went and entered the house. He laid his hands on Saul and said, "Brother Saul, the Lord Jesus, who appeared to you on your way here, has sent me so that you may regain your sight and be filled with the Holy Spirit." 18 And immediately something like scales fell from his eyes, and his sight was restored. Then he got up and was baptized,19 and after taking some food, he regained his strength. For several days he was with the disciples in Damascus, 20 and immediately he began to proclaim Jesus in the synagogues, saying, "He is the Son of God."' Tobit 11:7-8, :11-15a "7 Raphael said to Tobias, before he had approached his father, "I know that his eyes will be opened. 8 Smear the gall of the fish on his eyes; the medicine will make the white films shrink and peel off from his eyes, and your father will regain his sight and see the light."' "11 with the gall of the fish in his hand, and holding him firmly, he blew into his eyes, saying, "Take courage, father." With this he applied the medicine on his eyes, 12 and it made them smart. 13 Next, with both his hands he peeled off the white films from the corners of his eyes. Then Tobit saw his son and threw his arms around him, 14 and he wept and said to him, "I see you, my son, the light of my eyes!" Then he said, "Blessed be God, and blessed be his great name, and blessed be all his holy angels. May his holy name be blessed throughout all the ages. 15 Though he afflicted me, he has had mercy upon me. Now I see my son Tobias!"' 2 Maccabees 3:34-36 "34 And see that you, who have been flogged by heaven, report to all people the majestic power of God." Having said this they vanished. 35 Then Heliodorus offered sacrifice to the Lord and made very great vows to the Savior of his life, and having bidden Onias farewell, he marched off with his forces to the king. 36 He bore testimony to all concerning the deeds of the supreme God, which he had seen with his own eyes." "The use of cycles, parallels, repetitions, melodramatic characterization, stereotyped scene construction, inventing or presenting stories that replicate biblical narrative, unbalanced narrative with evident symbolic import, and a balanced structure-all these raise insurmountable objections. History cannot be quite so symmetrical. In addition there are any number of historical problems." Richard Pervo, The Mystery of Acts, pp. 151 Note: In Acts nowhere does the authorities show concern that a convicted criminal (Jesus) escaped justice, and is being harbored by what could be perceived as rebels against the government.

[@termination9353]

The Gospel of Jesus was originally one book, written by Lazarus in consultation with the Apostles [John 21:24] and published soon after Jesus left them on their own. The religion was hijacked by Rome, the Gospel was broken up scrambled adulterated into a bunch of competing narratives. Later four of those adulterated gospels were canonized with falsely ascribed authorship and a Gnosticism cover-story. It was the finding of an original Gospel of Jesus scroll in Jerusalem that gained the Knights Templar power over the Church and their eventual undoing when the church finally retaliated against them Friday 13th.

[@bleirdo_dude]

@@termination9353 Jesus tricked Satan into crucifying him (The Gospel Mark is a parable set on Earth while later Gospels are doctrinal warfare then believed as history): The pseudograph 2 Pet. 1:16 is pushback against people (likely a group of Xtians who we don't get to hear from) that are saying the Gospels are literary fabrications, and then forges an eyewitness account. Later in 2 Pet. 3:15-16 it mentions that there's things in Paul's letters that do not make sense, which is strange in light of 1 Cor. 3:2 & Heb. 5:12 in which converts are taught things easy to understand. Paul is adamant that his Gospel is not from humans, but from scripture, and visions/dreams (Gal. 1:11-12, :15-17, Rom. 15:4, 1 Cor. 15:3-8). A secret hidden through the ages now revealed (Rom. 16:25-26, 1 Cor. 2:6-7). Also Paul says his apostleship is by the same means as the founding Pillars (Gal. 2:6-9). Who in context of what Paul wrote would execute someone for being in human form? Phili. 2:6-8 "6 who, though he was in the form of God, did not regard equality with God as something to be exploited, 7 but emptied himself (Isa. 53:12), taking the form of a slave, being born in human likeness. And being found in human form, 8 he humbled himself and became obedient to the point of death - even death on a cross." Who would NOT kill Jesus if it was made known to them that by doing so it would fulfill God's plan for mankind to have a chance at immortality? 1 Cor. 2:6-8 "6 Yet among the mature we do speak wisdom, though it is not a wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are doomed to perish. 7 But we speak God's wisdom, secret and hidden, which God decreed before the ages for our glory. 8 None of the rulers of this age understood this; for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory." (Note: "rulers of this age" is reciprocal with Earthly & spiritual powers to the ancient reader) To Paul a physical resurrection does not inherit God's Kingdom (The Synoptics have a flesh resurrected Jesus). 1 Cor. 15:49 "49 Just as we have borne the image of the man of dust, we will also bear the image of the man of heaven. 50 What I am saying, brothers and sisters, is this: flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 51 Listen, I will tell you a mystery! We will not all die, but we will all be changed, 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53 For this perishable body must put on imperishability, and this mortal body must put on immortality." Dirty, or impoverished clothing, and clean, or gleaming clothing were seen as metaphors for Earthly/spiritual bodies in the ancient world. (Mark 14:51-52 "A certain young man was following him, wearing nothing but a linen cloth. They caught hold of him, but he left the linen cloth and ran off naked.", 16:5 "As they entered the tomb, they saw a young man, dressed in a white robe, sitting on the right side; and they were alarmed.") Rom. 4:25 "who was handed over to death for our trespasses and was raised for our justification." Note: 1 Cor. 11:23 "betrayed" is contextually reciprocal with "handed over" in Greek (Rom. 1:24, :26, :28). The verse Rom. 1:3b "who was descended from David according to the flesh" (2 Sam. 7:12) is good evidence for historicity. But 2 Sam. 7:12c "who shall come forth from your body," can mean God made a flesh body from David's semen for Jesus (it was a belief that the male seed contained the whole body). This is a convenient way to fulfill messianic prophecy for a celestial event instead of on Earth. Zec. 3:1-9 "1 Then he showed me the high priest Joshua/Jesus (Savior) standing before the angel of the LORD, and Satan (Adversary) standing at his right hand to accuse him. 2 And the LORD said to Satan, "The LORD rebuke you, O Satan! The LORD who has chosen Jerusalem rebuke you! Is not this man a brand plucked from the fire?" 3 Now Joshua was dressed with filthy clothes as he stood before the angel. 4 The angel said to those who were standing before him, "Take off his filthy clothes." And to him he said, "See, I have taken your guilt away from you, and I will clothe you with festal apparel." 5 And I said, "Let them put a clean turban on his head." So they put a clean turban on his head and clothed him with the apparel; and the angel of the LORD was standing by. 6 Then the angel of the LORD assured Joshua, saying 7 "Thus says the LORD of hosts: If you will walk in my ways and keep my requirements, then you shall rule my house and have charge of my courts, and I will give you the right of access among those who are standing here. 8 Now listen, Joshua, high priest, you and your colleagues who sit before you! For they are an omen of things to come: I am going to bring my servant the Branch. 9 For on the stone that I have set before Joshua, on a single stone with seven facets, I will engrave its inscription, says the LORD of hosts, and I will remove the guilt of this land in a single day." Zec. 6:11-13 "11 Take the silver and gold and make a crown, and set it on the head of the high priest Joshua son of Jehozadak (Savior Son of the Righteous God); 12 say to him: Thus says the LORD of hosts: Here is a man whose name is Branch: for he shall branch out in his place, and he shall build the temple of the LORD. 13 It is he that shall build the temple of the LORD; he shall bear royal honor, and shall sit upon his throne and rule. There shall be a priest by his throne, with peaceful understanding between the two of them." Rom. 15:12 "12 and again Isaiah says, "The root of Jesse shall come, the one who rises to rule the Gentiles; in him the Gentiles shall hope." (Isa. 11:10 LXX). Isa. 11:1 "1 A shoot shall come out from the stump of Jesse, and a branch shall grow out of his roots." 1 Cor. 15:24-26 "24 Then comes the end, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father, after he has destroyed every ruler and every authority and power. 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death." Jos. 10:24-27 "24 When they brought the kings out to Joshua/Jesus, Joshua summoned all the Israelites, and said to the chiefs of the warriors who had gone with him, "Come near, put your feet on the necks of these kings." Then they came near and put their feet on their necks. (Psa. 110:1/1 Cor. 15:24-28, Rom. 16:20, Heb. 1:13, 2:5-9, 10:13) 25 And Joshua said to them, "Do not be afraid or dismayed; be strong and courageous; for thus the LORD will do to all the enemies against whom you fight." 26 Afterward Joshua struck them down and put them to death, and he hung them on five trees. And they hung on the trees until evening. 27 At sunset Joshua commanded, and they took them down from the trees and threw them into the cave where they had hidden themselves; they set large stones against the mouth of the cave, which remain to this very day. (Deut. 21:22-23/Gal. 3:13)" Image of God (2 Cor. 4:4, Phili. 2:6), Agent of creation (Rom. 11:36, 1 Cor. 8:6) Philo: THE SPECIAL LAWS, I "XVI ...Now the image of God is the Word, by which all the world was made..." Celestial high priest (Heb. 2:17, 4:14), God's Word (Heb. 1:3, 11:3), Firstborn son (Rom. 8:29) Philo: ON DREAMS, THAT THEY ARE GOD-SENT "XXXVII ...the high priest is the Divine Word, his own firstborn son." Five Kings= Five Senses (Flesh) Philo: ON ABRAHAM "XLI These things, then, are what are contained in the plain words of the scriptures. But as many as are able to contemplate the facts related in them in their incorporeal and naked state, living rather in the soul than in the body, will say that of the nine kings (Gen.14:1-2) the four are the powers of the four passions which exist within us, the passion of pleasure, of desire, of fear, and of grief; and that the other five kings are the outward senses, being equal in number, the sense of sight, of hearing, of smell, of taste, and of touch. For these in some degree are sovereigns and rulers, having acquired a certain power over us, but not all to an equal extent; for the five are subordinate to the four, and are compelled to pay them taxes and tribute, such as are appointed by nature. For it is from the things which we see, or hear, or smell, or taste, or touch, that pleasures, and pains, and fears, and desires arise; as there is no one of the passions which has any power to exist of itself, if it were not supplied by the materials furnished by the outward senses." Philo: WHO IS THE HEIR OF DIVINE THINGS "XXXVIII ...Now, the craters of the sense of seeing are the eyes, those of hearing are the ears, those of smelling are the nostrils, and so on with the appropriate receptacles for each of the senses. On these craters the sacred word pours a portion of blood, thinking it right that the irrational part of us should become endowed with soul and vitality, ...purifying itself from the deceitful alluring powers of the objects of the outward sense which aim to overcome it." Philo: QUESTIONS & ANSWERS ON GENESIS, III "(51) What is the meaning of, “And it shall be my covenant (or agreement) in your flesh?” (Gen. 17:13). God is willing to do good, not only to the man who is endued with virtue, but he wishes that the Divine Word should regulate not only his soul but his body also, as if it had become its physician. And it must be its care to prune away all excesses of seeing, and hearing, and taste, and smell, and touch, and also those of the instrument of voice and articulation, and also all the redundant and pernicious impulses of the genitals, (morning cross? Rom. 7:23) as also of the whole body, the effect of which is, that at times we are delighted by our passions and at times pained by them."

[@Stadtpark90]

39:00 all three hypotheses make the most sense together: “the beloved disciple” is a stand-in for the reader to identify with AND Lazarus is the beloved disciple AND “John 1” sees the resurrection as a spiritual act that has already happened: as a member of that Johannian community You (the reader) ARE already (spiritually) resurrected, which also makes you the witness to the resurrection in a way, because you already lived through it yourself. The shedding / unwrapping of the linen is a symbol for the resurrection as a spiritual process: the linen is the body that you leave behind; if the authorities try to grab you, all they can get hold of is the linen, your spirit remains free. Edit: Oh, it already said on your slide that the cloth is about baptism and rebirth… 57:20 Egyptian parallels P.S.: could You please do a lecture on the various prison escape stories of Paul and Peter? I once spent a whole evening looking for depictions… - the Earth shakes and the shackles fall off and the prison door stands open… - got reminded of that when thinking about the linen cloth and the stone rolled away and the resurrection. (I may be better served by actual sermons, but as an Atheist I stopped listening to those… - while I still enjoy listening to you!) Edit 2: tl,dr: it’s not a historical story; Lazarus is you, the reader (“born again” believer); yet then he might also be Osiris? - I guess I need another lecture: Who was Osiris? (Going through stories together always leads to the same question: Where are the points of identification for me? What did I take from it? - In the end all stories worth telling are about the human condition, and thus personal “truth” often beats historical truth: lots of symbolical stuff going on; layers upon layers). (Edit 3: I would not be surprised if the Egyptian story is about an astronomical event again in the end… ( - maybe the House of Annu / Bethany is a star sign and the “two sisters” are part of it, or close to it)). (- Last time I linked a video where Bethlehem was said to be an Egyptian star sign (The House of Bread; which is the same constellation as The Virgin; thus saying that Jesus was born of a virgin amounts to the same as saying that he was born in Bethlehem: it’s about the sun seemingly rising in constellations through the year).

[@Stadtpark90]

At 17:38 in the linked video there in the fast scrolling list is Beth Annu = Bethany, and Asar (=Osiris) = Lazarus…

[@jamesdewane1642]

I like the way you think and read. We use stories to experience roles and realities that are otherwise hard to access. The story-teller does a creditable job when readers and listeners get first person experiences of every character. Christianity sometimes makes it difficult to imagine what it would be like to be Jesus. For me it was pretty cool the first time I allowed myself to imagine coming up out of the water, seeing the heavens open, the spirit coming down like a dove, and a voice from heaven addressing me: You are my beloved son; my favor rests on you. The gospel of Mark keeps Jesus closer to human than the others. Imho, it is best to read Mark first, very thoroughly, and without interrupting yourself to see what the other gospels or Paul have to say about this or that. If you get what Mark says about life, you'll know how the other books were meant, in my experience. Btw, atheism is a great place to start, but only if you allow yourself to experience what is portrayed from each character's point of view. You will need to imagine what it is to have a conception of god and what it would mean to be addressed by such, for example. And far be it from me to presume to know what you will find!

[@termination9353]

The Gospel of Jesus was originally one book, written by Lazarus in consultation with the Apostles [John 21:24] and published soon after Jesus left them on their own. The religion was hijacked by Rome, the Gospel was broken up scrambled adulterated into a bunch of competing narratives. Later four of those adulterated gospels were canonized with falsely ascribed authorship and a Gnosticism cover-story. It was the finding of an original Gospel of Jesus scroll in Jerusalem that gained the Knights Templar power over the Church and their eventual undoing when the church finally retaliated against them Friday 13th.

[@goldie44451]

This is a very interesting concept, that the beloved disciple and Lazarus is the audience. The linen left behind makes me think of the garment of shame emphasized in the Gnostic literatures (the garment put on since the fall of man in Genesis).

[@aarush5101]

JESUS AMEN❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ he sacrificed for us we should be proud

[@EvilXtianity]

_"...sacrificed for us we should be proud."_ Should a father who used one of his sons as a human sacrifice to himself be condemned or worshiped?

[@charlessnarls3902]

I think you are missing the joke. Lazarus was a young man rich and generous enough to host Jesus and the twelve. Jesus pokes fun at him by making him a pathetic (but righteous) beggar. The disciples would have gotten the joke and Lazarus would have been amused and slightly humbled. The gospel of 'John' was doubtless originally written in Hebrew or Aramaic and translated into Greek by Gnostics with several self-serving additions. Lazarus was the unnamed naked man in the garden of gethsemane - they all had just shared the Passover at his house. It was too scandalous to be spelled out in the story so his name was erased. The Gospel of John should be titled the Gospel of Lazarus.

[@edgar-mmxxiii]

Lazarus' family are wealthy. They are merchants. Lazarus is the brother of Miriam (aka Mary Magdalene slandered by Vatican as prostitute to suit their agendas) and Martha. Miriam is Yeshua's wife so technically Yeshua (Jesus) and Lazarus are brothers in law. Miriam is now the angel of the covenant.

[@susanwalker8486]

Is there any proof of Jesus and his resurection

[@nodiggity9472]

None.

[@ryanrevland4333]

Two different questions. Proof of Jesus is reasonable. The resurrection not so much. Especially with how common the claim was at the time.

[@EvilXtianity]

@@ryanrevland4333 _"Proof of Jesus is reasonable.'_ Provide the single-best evidence you have that Jesus existed. You know none of the Gospel authors witnessed him, right?

[@EvilXtianity]

@@ryanrevland4333 In the entire first century Jesus is not mentioned by a single historian, religion scholar, politician, philosopher, or poet. His name never occurs in a single inscription, carving, sculpture, or monument and is never found in a single piece of private correspondence or official record. Jesus himself left no archaeological evidence of any kind, such as artifacts, tombs, dwellings, works of carpentry, or self-written manuscripts.

[@beyoncewomack2688]

If Lazarus was RESERECTED how did he grow old and die?it doesn't make sense to be brought back for a few years only to grow old and pass away, shouldn't he be RESERECTED again why would age and Jesus death stop it?

[@longcastle4863]

Interesting point

[@sebolddaniel]

In Mark jesus tells the feet washing woman that she will be known far and wide-- the meaning of Euraklea's name who washes the feet of Odysseus.

[@Thomasyouareclearandbeau-td4ox]

I im glad to know Lazarus was 1 what I thought

[@tjwhite1963]

There's another interesting possible parallel with the young man in a linen robe standing in the empty tomb of the Risen Jesus, although "[t]here is some confusion between this account and that of the other gospels. In Matthew 28 only a single angel is mentioned. Mark 16 refers to a young man, presumably an angel, sitting on the right side. In Luke two men, identified as angels in Luke 24:23, appear standing next to the women." (Wikipedia) John 20:12 also appears to conflate this young man in the empty tomb into two men. But what if this resurrection story, ostensibly about "Jesus," so clearly dependent on the Egyptian Osiris myth, was instead only initially a baptism/initiation story, or perhaps an Egyptian resurrection/rebirth story later co-opted by an early Gnosticizing Christian group in Alexandria? Understanding the Lazarus resurrection story and the Jesus resurrection story as perhaps two separate iterations of the same original myth, interpreted as an initiatory or baptismal ritual, in order to bring about a rebirth into the realm of Spirit, as opposed to Flesh ("ye must be born again"), would certainly go a long way to explaining why nascent Orthodoxy would want to suppress "Secret Mark," and eliminate the Lazarus story, yes? (Assuming it is legitimate.)

[@tjwhite1963]

At the very least, there appears to have been a great deal of (deliberate?) obfuscation that went on in the early writing and editing of these New Testament texts.

[@tjwhite1963]

With all this in mind, it's not difficult to see why the Gospel of John was the preferred gospel among some of the Gnostics, nor why Herakleon wrote an entire Gnostic commentary on it. It preserved the resurrection story of Lazarus (a.k.a. "Jesus" ...???)

[@termikesmike]

@@tjwhite1963 RE: " the Gospel of John was the preferred gospel among some of the Gnostics" I've read that the Gospel of John was 'accepted/approved ' last and 'suspect' by the Eastern (Greek) 'church'. Furthermore, the primary reasoning being that it was 'favored' by the gnostic Valentinus (sp) - who had been attempting to be elected as Bishop of Rome and then 'went rogue' when he was defeated and led a large gnostic sect which used the Gospel of John. So then, who knows what changes were introduced... I'd always thought Lazarus was a rich guy in the Sanhedrin who was very learned and he supported Jesus and his ministry, that he likely believed Jesus WAS a great candidate for Jewish leader/King/messiah and was the guy who rented the place where the Last Supper was held .... How would a character like Peter be able to get into the "trial" - obviously Lazarus took him there .... Also, it seems again more 'additions' at the end which are very strange - Jesus standing on the beach as they're fishing - the names mentioned and not mentioned - where is Lazarus in this lineup ? doesn't quite work

[@tjwhite1963]

Thanks for your reply. Interesting speculations.

[@almazchati4178]

The beloved disciple must be Judas. John 21 also has a contentious scene where Peter points to the beloved and is reprimanded by Jesus. The disciple Peter may have a problem could be only Judas. I think Judas was trying to clear himself by showing up with Jesus.

[@johnvanpopta8449]

When John speaks of "Jews" we should translate Judeans," in contŕast to Gallileans." John is not speaking of "Jews," ìn contŕast to "Gentiles."

[@sebolddaniel]

Secret Mark was found by Nabokov?.

[@Anonymous-ez6cz]

Who is Lazarus PS we don't even know who Jesus is nevertheless or God or anything, we are in darkness 2nd Corinthians 4 verse 4 to all of us, especially religious people this is the truth

[@bleirdo_dude]

Satan Killed Christ Jesus (The Gospels are just parables set on Earth/doctrinal warfare): The pseudograph 2 Pet. 1:16 is pushback against people (likely a group of Xtians who we don't get to hear from) that are saying the Gospels are literary fabrications, and then forges an eyewitness account. Later in 2 Pet. 3:15-16 it mentions that there's things in Paul's letters that do not make sense, which is strange in light of 1 Cor. 3:2 & Heb. 5:12 in which converts are taught things easy to understand. Paul is adamant that his Gospel is not from humans, but from scripture, and visions/dreams (Gal. 1:11-12, :15-17, Rom. 15:4, 1 Cor. 15:3-8). A secret hidden through the ages now revealed (Rom. 16:25-26, 1 Cor. 2:6-7). Also Paul says his apostleship is by the same means as the founding Pillars (Gal. 2:6-9). Who in context of what Paul wrote would execute someone for being in human form? Phili. 2:6-8 "6 who, though he was in the form of God, did not regard equality with God as something to be exploited, 7 but emptied himself (Isa. 53:12), taking the form of a slave, being born in human likeness. And being found in human form, 8 he humbled himself and became obedient to the point of death - even death on a cross." Who would NOT kill Jesus if it was made known to them that by doing so it would fulfill God's plan for mankind to have a chance at immortality? 1 Cor. 2:6-8 "6 Yet among the mature we do speak wisdom, though it is not a wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are doomed to perish. 7 But we speak God's wisdom, secret and hidden, which God decreed before the ages for our glory. 8 None of the rulers of this age understood this; for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory." (Note: "rulers of this age" is reciprocal with Earthly & spiritual powers to the ancient reader) To Paul a physical resurrection does not inherit God's Kingdom (The Synoptics have a flesh resurrected Jesus). 1 Cor. 15:49 "49 Just as we have borne the image of the man of dust, we will also bear the image of the man of heaven. 50 What I am saying, brothers and sisters, is this: flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 51 Listen, I will tell you a mystery! We will not all die, but we will all be changed, 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53 For this perishable body must put on imperishability, and this mortal body must put on immortality." Dirty, or impoverished clothing, and clean, or gleaming clothing were seen as metaphors for Earthly/spiritual bodies in the ancient world. (Mark 14:51-52 "A certain young man was following him, wearing nothing but a linen cloth. They caught hold of him, but he left the linen cloth and ran off naked.", 16:5 "As they entered the tomb, they saw a young man, dressed in a white robe, sitting on the right side; and they were alarmed.") Rom. 4:25 "who was handed over to death for our trespasses and was raised for our justification." Note: 1 Cor. 11:23 "betrayed" is contextually reciprocal with "handed over" in Greek (Rom. 1:24, :26, :28). The verse Rom. 1:3b "who was descended from David according to the flesh" (2 Sam. 7:12) is good evidence for historicity. But 2 Sam. 7:12c "who shall come forth from your body," can mean God made a flesh body from David's semen for Jesus (it was a belief that the male seed contained the whole body). This is a convenient way to fulfill messianic prophecy for a celestial event instead of on Earth. Zec. 3:1-9 "1 Then he showed me the high priest Joshua/Jesus (Savior) standing before the angel of the LORD, and Satan (Adversary) standing at his right hand to accuse him. 2 And the LORD said to Satan, "The LORD rebuke you, O Satan! The LORD who has chosen Jerusalem rebuke you! Is not this man a brand plucked from the fire?" 3 Now Joshua was dressed with filthy clothes as he stood before the angel. 4 The angel said to those who were standing before him, "Take off his filthy clothes." And to him he said, "See, I have taken your guilt away from you, and I will clothe you with festal apparel." 5 And I said, "Let them put a clean turban on his head." So they put a clean turban on his head and clothed him with the apparel; and the angel of the LORD was standing by. 6 Then the angel of the LORD assured Joshua, saying 7 "Thus says the LORD of hosts: If you will walk in my ways and keep my requirements, then you shall rule my house and have charge of my courts, and I will give you the right of access among those who are standing here. 8 Now listen, Joshua, high priest, you and your colleagues who sit before you! For they are an omen of things to come: I am going to bring my servant the Branch. 9 For on the stone that I have set before Joshua, on a single stone with seven facets, I will engrave its inscription, says the LORD of hosts, and I will remove the guilt of this land in a single day." Zec. 6:11-13 "11 Take the silver and gold and make a crown, and set it on the head of the high priest Joshua son of Jehozadak (Savior Son of the Righteous God); 12 say to him: Thus says the LORD of hosts: Here is a man whose name is Branch: for he shall branch out in his place, and he shall build the temple of the LORD. 13 It is he that shall build the temple of the LORD; he shall bear royal honor, and shall sit upon his throne and rule. There shall be a priest by his throne, with peaceful understanding between the two of them." Rom. 15:12 "12 and again Isaiah says, "The root of Jesse shall come, the one who rises to rule the Gentiles; in him the Gentiles shall hope." (Isa. 11:10 LXX). Isa. 11:1 "1 A shoot shall come out from the stump of Jesse, and a branch shall grow out of his roots." 1 Cor. 15:24-26 "24 Then comes the end, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father, after he has destroyed every ruler and every authority and power. 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death." Jos. 10:24-27 "24 When they brought the kings out to Joshua/Jesus, Joshua summoned all the Israelites, and said to the chiefs of the warriors who had gone with him, "Come near, put your feet on the necks of these kings." Then they came near and put their feet on their necks. (Psa. 110:1/1 Cor. 15:24-28, Rom. 16:20, Heb. 1:13, 2:5-9, 10:13) 25 And Joshua said to them, "Do not be afraid or dismayed; be strong and courageous; for thus the LORD will do to all the enemies against whom you fight." 26 Afterward Joshua struck them down and put them to death, and he hung them on five trees. And they hung on the trees until evening. 27 At sunset Joshua commanded, and they took them down from the trees and threw them into the cave where they had hidden themselves; they set large stones against the mouth of the cave, which remain to this very day. (Deut. 21:22-23/Gal. 3:13)" Image of God (2 Cor. 4:4, Phili. 2:6), Agent of creation (Rom. 11:36, 1 Cor. 8:6) Philo: THE SPECIAL LAWS, I "XVI ...Now the image of God is the Word, by which all the world was made..." Celestial high priest (Heb. 2:17, 4:14), God's Word (Heb. 1:3, 11:3), Firstborn son (Rom. 8:29) Philo: ON DREAMS, THAT THEY ARE GOD-SENT "XXXVII ...the high priest is the Divine Word, his own firstborn son." Five Kings= Five Senses (Flesh) Philo: ON ABRAHAM "XLI These things, then, are what are contained in the plain words of the scriptures. But as many as are able to contemplate the facts related in them in their incorporeal and naked state, living rather in the soul than in the body, will say that of the nine kings (Gen.14:1-2) the four are the powers of the four passions which exist within us, the passion of pleasure, of desire, of fear, and of grief; and that the other five kings are the outward senses, being equal in number, the sense of sight, of hearing, of smell, of taste, and of touch. For these in some degree are sovereigns and rulers, having acquired a certain power over us, but not all to an equal extent; for the five are subordinate to the four, and are compelled to pay them taxes and tribute, such as are appointed by nature. For it is from the things which we see, or hear, or smell, or taste, or touch, that pleasures, and pains, and fears, and desires arise; as there is no one of the passions which has any power to exist of itself, if it were not supplied by the materials furnished by the outward senses." Philo: WHO IS THE HEIR OF DIVINE THINGS "XXXVIII ...Now, the craters of the sense of seeing are the eyes, those of hearing are the ears, those of smelling are the nostrils, and so on with the appropriate receptacles for each of the senses. On these craters the sacred word pours a portion of blood, thinking it right that the irrational part of us should become endowed with soul and vitality, ...purifying itself from the deceitful alluring powers of the objects of the outward sense which aim to overcome it." Philo: QUESTIONS & ANSWERS ON GENESIS, III "(51) What is the meaning of, “And it shall be my covenant (or agreement) in your flesh?” (Gen. 17:13). God is willing to do good, not only to the man who is endued with virtue, but he wishes that the Divine Word should regulate not only his soul but his body also, as if it had become its physician. And it must be its care to prune away all excesses of seeing, and hearing, and taste, and smell, and touch, and also those of the instrument of voice and articulation, and also all the redundant and pernicious impulses of the genitals, (morning cross? Rom. 7:23) as also of the whole body, the effect of which is, that at times we are delighted by our passions and at times pained by them."

[@chuckerstuffmacguffin7506]

21:38 Why would you only say scribes when history will easily remember them as JEWISH scribes being that that clerical profession of has been held onto by the chosen people from as early as the 11th century BC? To those of us who are receiving thiss information for the first time It sheds light on why the bible follows a fairy land timeline different to our historical timeline. I mean if you had grudges with other Jewish families you wanted to omit or create accounts of miracles and other such phenomena of course you would change the names and times of the actual events that took place. ;)

[@kankikankkinen2670]

Why didnt jesus move the stone

[@jeremymettler2785]

Who proclaimed any of you three times over before you born ?

[@yolandosoquite3507]

hehe..it took 1 hr plus minutes just for 1 Person named Lazarus...never answered my Question..Why was Lazarus the only Adult male that was Resurrected?..Jesus ressurrected 2 to 3 Children..and why Jesus did not resurrect John the Baptist..more important than Lazarus when it comes to the Salvation?.

[@93castle]

He was the brother of Mary and Martha and a friend of Jesus, so the Bible says.

[@josepheridu3322]

I also find odd other Gospels did not mention Lazarus, but other Gospels did mention that other Jesus resurrected other people, such as the young girl. Maybe they feared some kind of prosecution from the Jewish? If that is the case, Why it was hidden for Lazarus but not to other resurrection miracles?

[@willempasterkamp862]

Brittannicus, the 'brother' of Nerones

[@richarddemuth7077]

"Lazarus" was the ALIAS under which John (Mark) the son of either Simon Cephas or Clephas wrote his Gospel as the unnamed "Beloved Disciple". HOWEVER, in Book Five Section 567 of "The Judish Wars" the Judish priest-historian Josephus wrote of a man named Mannanaios the son of a man named "LAZARUS"! Mannanaios is described as being "bursar of public funds" and so apparently city treasurer of Jerusalem at the time of the Roman siege of Jerusalem forty years after Jesus' crucifixion; though the Lazarus of the "Gospels" is not stated in any of them to have either been married OR have a son.

[@edgar-mmxxiii]

Check the writings of Embrosewyn Tazkuvel, new revelations in there he is in contact with Lazarus and several books speaks of Lazarus life experience, Lazarus is still alive in physical body and is still on Earth serving as a guardian of this planet for 2000 years. Apparently Yeshua raised him from the dead for a mission. He was instrumental behind the scenes for the defeat of the Nazis.

[@nodiggity9472]

Josephus was an unreliable narrator.

[@richarddemuth7077]

@@nodiggity9472 So were the authors of the "New Testament". You don't study history; you ANALYZE it.

[@nodiggity9472]

@@richarddemuth7077 Yeah I know. Just saying.

[@nodiggity9472]

@@edgar-mmxxiii No he isn't. And no he wasn't. No-one lives for 2000 years, that's absurd.

[@sebolddaniel]

This is very helpful to infidel former altar boys. It very much undermines the quality of the text if there are revisions in which you have a narrator coming out of the story to explain why the beloved apostle dies when he shouldnt have. Might be better off reading a vedic hymn, some real poetry.

[@josephturner7569]

Not who, what. Same ritual as JC.

[@JayDee-x2b]

No Easter bunny church then. Passover Seder

[@termination9353]

The Gospel of Jesus was originally one book, written by Lazarus in consultation with the Apostles [John 21:24] and published soon after Jesus left them on their own. The religion was hijacked by Rome, the Gospel was broken up scrambled adulterated into a bunch of competing narratives. Later four of those adulterated gospels were canonized with falsely ascribed authorship and a Gnosticism cover-story. It was the finding of an original Gospel of Jesus scroll in Jerusalem that gained the Knights Templar power over the Church and their eventual undoing when the church finally retaliated against them.

[@edgar-mmxxiii]

Lazarus is the brother of Miriam (aka Mary Magdalene) and Martha. Lazarus is still alive today in physical embodiment and he is still on Earth assigned by Elohim to be the guardian of this planet. He was the last remaining of the guardians assigned to protect Earth from threats that we have no idea is occuring so that we can live peacefully. He played a role behind the scenes in the defeat of the Nazis. Yeshua raised him from the dead not for nothing. He was given a mission unbeknown to many. His time here on this planet is nearing and will soon be over.

[@termikesmike]

Lazarus was the 'special disciple ' and wrote this Gospel most. likely - he arranged the dinner and worked 'behind the scenes' - an important Jewish supporter - hints throughout

[@JayDee-x2b]

Nobody was called a christian at that time, no Easter... Jesus is not a jew, Pharisee, Hasmonean...not Herodian Edomite... You are confusing truth

[@JamesCroney]

I'd like to ask why the mary-s are conflated, and why it's not possible they are the same gal. :)

[@adriennepatterson6113]

Who was Lazarus? David Bowie, no?

[@josepheridu3322]

cringe

[@adriennepatterson6113]

@@josepheridu3322 come on that was funny

[@nationofsaba2760]

Lazarus is Osiris

[@tonymessinajr]

If Jesus brought Lazarus back to life where is he today

[@VSP4591]

In the Gospel of John.

[@paulrhome6164]

If said in just the right condescending tone, this sounds like the perfect response to "If humans evolved for apes, why are there still apes?"

[@winstonbarquez9538]

He probably died again because his coming back to life did not make him immortal.

[@alanpennie8013]

@@winstonbarquez9538 That seems to be right. No human in The Bible ever became immortal, though The Patriarchs were given extended lives and some people (like Elijah) experienced something different from normal death.

[@hkcb250rider9]

I’ve been to the church that was built where he died for the second time in Cyprus where he was spreading the Word.

[@emilbordon1329]

Lazarus was the guy who invented the Laser.

[@binyon7]

Lazer Wolff from FotR

[@cejann3926]

This guy always refuses to acknowledge Africa's influence on present religion. He didn't admit to Akhenaten's connections to monotheism Osiris IS THE resurrection story. He rose in 3 days and his story is the original immaculate conception. He's also the original brothers story. Osiris isn't myth, he existed. He's the original Pharoah. He's 5000 years old (at least) and has been mythologized, like Jesus.

[@tonymessinajr]

Mark's young man in the linen cloth literally has gay written all over it excuse me for being real and honest but when I see what I'm reading here I see nothing but gay

[@alanpennie8013]

I'm happy he escaped. It seems like the authorities were content to have caught Jesus, and didn't bother to pursue his disciples.