Who was Queen Mary & Why is Queen Camilla wearing her Crown?

[@YankeeCountess]

I will never get over the irony that the Church of England has such strict rules about divorce, when it can easily be argued that the entire denomination was created because Henry VIII wanted to divorce his wife

[@TheGoldielover]

Not to mention that they had no problem with a divorced King in the past when they could have spoken up. When the Hanoverian line of the Electress Sophia was chosen to inherit should Queen Anne die childless, they knew that her son George was divorced, as that happened several years before the Act of Settlement 1710. Their main concern at that time was that he wasn't a Catholic. So many of the Stuart descendants were, but the Hanoverian line were staunch Protestants. The Electress Sophia's mother was a Stuart, the eldest daughter of James I, which was why they were offered the throne.

[@kathleenwarner5183]

True! Same goes for the “Defender of the Faith” title which was given to Henry VIII by the pope for the treatise he wrote condemning the teachings of Martin Luther. The monarchy is lots of things but logical isn’t one of them.

[@conservative6632]

I do not get their decor e rule but I do not like Camilla nor Charles as they do not know how to run a kingdom nor a nation and they barely even try to make Britain great again

[@dannyouellet2429]

Yes but it gave us elizabeth 2 as queen instead of the nazi king

[@TheGoldielover]

@@dannyouellet2429 She would still have become Queen even if Edward VIII had remained on the throne, as he died childless. It would have been in 1972 instead of 1952, and there would have been no George VI, as he died before his elder brother. Everything else would likely be the same as today. There would still have been a Jubilee celebration last year, but it would have been her Golden Jubilee rather than her Platinum Jubilee.

[@Stinoco]

Reusing a crown would give it a dynastic meaning. It’s better than spending money on a new crown. What makes Queen Mary’s crown better is that it was she who paid for the crown, not the state. It’s also a symbol of a humility and responsibility. Plus Queen Mary wanted it to be the official crown for consorts, so she’d be happy too.

[@samiam2088]

Doubt she’d be happy, Mary was against divorce.

[@talmadge1926]

Queen Mary would not be happy with anything to do with Camilla.

[@sierotkamarysia4199]

@@samiam2088 She’s dead.

[@JohnSmith-zw8vp]

As that guy from King Ralph would say, you can't refuse the crown, it's a sacred trust! Even if you don't get a salary as such...

[@shellecapos8574]

I see you believe the official propaganda about that crown. The diamonds were stolen. The countries have been for a long time asking for them back. They’ve taken so much from so many, so they can live in absolute opulence. Divine rights of Kings, while Britain suffers. How many castles do you have??

[@jorgeulateguzman31]

One historical detail that I like about King George and Queen Mary and that some people tend to forget is that they were kings when the Titanic sank. All the royal family attended a memorial service for victims of the sinking back in April 19, 1912, the day after the RMS Carpathia had arrived in New York City with the survivors. King George, along with his sons Edward, Prince of Wales (later King Edward VIII), Prince Albert (later King George VI, father of Queen Elizabeth II), and Prince Henry, as well as his daughter Princess Mary, and of course his wife, Queen Mary, attended a memorial service for victims of the sinking at London’s St. Paul’s Cathedral on April 19, 1912

[@oonanas6507]

Just out of curiosity, do you have any information about what the royal family did when the Britannic sank? I personally find the whole “twin ships that both sank” -story really fascinating and am baffled it isn’t talked about more

[@kathleenwarner5183]

Wow! That must have given so much comfort and help to the families of those lost, many of whose loved ones bodies were never recovered. SMH

[@blackeyedsusan727]

​@@kathleenwarner5183 That's what I was thinking. What's the big deal? What else would/should they have done? 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@kathleenwarner5183]

@@blackeyedsusan727 maybe send food, clothing to the survivors? Something that would have really helped them. They could’ve sent personal letters of condolence to the families of the survivors. That would have made a real impact on their lives.

[@blackeyedsusan727]

@@kathleenwarner5183 Correct. I was unclear: I meant as to the forenamed ceremony. It's not as if that was optional for them. I've just read another set of foolish comments here on how (1) monarchy is a superior system of gov't. "Statistically speaking, [under a monarchy] we the people have a better chance at life." (😆); and (2) that Charles *will do* so much for climate and "save us." That's why he's gotten so much hate [jealousy, fear, by those who have controlled until now]. (🙄🙄😒😒😒). The first is not even worth discussing, only to say that it's astonishing how truly dumb people can be. The 2nd, was something I didn't expect to read. I wonder how this person understands our current malaise, given that he's been the PoW for decades and has never done anything much more than organically farm a bit of land on a small island?

[@lap8329]

A point people are missing is that Queen Mary’s crown was created to be the permanent crown not just for herself, but for all Queens Consort in the future. That came unstuck because Queen Mary was still alive and kicking when her daughter-in-law Elizabeth was to be crowned as the Consort of George VI. The trouble was that the old Queen Mary was going to be present at the Coronation, and expecting to wear ‘her’ crown. Ripping the old girl’s crown off her head to give to her daughter-in-law seemed a bit cruel, so they knocked up a different one for Elizabeth. That particular crown was only meant to be a one-off, just for that one particular Consort. Going back to Queen Mary’s crown is just reverting to Plan A. Edit: A point I forgot about is that Queen Mary commissioned that crown herself, and paid for it with her own money, so it really was “her” crown.

[@hotoneinspai]

LA P. Im not sure its as simple as you make out...Thought the point you raise is factual...former Queens have attended their Sons Coronation, Perhaps forcing New Consorts Crowns to have to be made... Remember, Tiaras were acceptable head wear for Royals! Even ex Queens.

[@rogerd777]

Interesting point. Hypothetically, if Queen Camilla survives King Charles, would that mean that the Queen Mary Crown should not be used for the coronation of King William and Queen Katherine?

[@lap8329]

@@rogerd777 I think they would play that one by ear. The Queen Mary Crown was intended by Mary herself for the Consort to wear going forward, I don’t think she had expected to be alive at the next Coronation. They had to make a new one for Elisabeth as Mary was still around, and wanted her Crown. (And why not, it was hers - she bought and paid for it herself back in the day.) I can’t see Camilla making a fuss - I‘m pretty sure she would go with whatever fitted the overall plans best. If they wanted the QM Crown for Catherine, there’s lots of other bling - the I950’s Elisabeth Crown or the George IV Diadem for instance. From the practical point of view, I’d go with the George IV Diadem - it is lighter and easier to wear than the heavy crowns. She was struggling with the weight of the QM on Coronation day, and it might be a major difficulty umpteen years down the line.

[@christianerichol7448]

Ça incite les gens à s'intéresser à ces petits détails ARTÉ pourrait en faire un reportage.... On aimerai

[@matthewmacpherson5071]

@@rogerd777 If Queen Camilla survives King Charles and is present for Prince William’s coronation, Catherine, The Princess of Wales will probably use the crown of Queen Elizabeth(The Queen Mother) because Camilla will probably be wearing the crown of Queen Mary.

[@MandyJMaddison]

Correction- Queen Mary's crown, with its flowing, curving arches, and its date of 1911, is plainly not Art Deco in design. It is Art Nouveau. The Art Deco crown is that of Queen Elizabeth, 1937, with its plainer, squarer outline. I have seen this erroneous description elsewhere.

[@sarahy1680]

I'd say it's more Belle Époch (those elongated teardrop arches) with some transitional elements but, as you say, definitely not Art Deco. Year of creation aside, Queen Mary was possibly the least Art Deco person ever. 😆

[@MandyJMaddison]

@@sarahy1680 I would have difficulty distinguishing between Belle Epoch and Art Nouveau, except in the degree of flamboyance

[@sarahy1680]

@@MandyJMaddison Gross over-generalization: the date, the innate value of the materials, and the amount of nature/human motifs, however stylized they might be. But yeah, it's a spectrum not a hard and fast cut-off from one to the other.

[@blackeyedsusan727]

The owner of this channel gets a lot of very basic things wrong. Smh

[@kathleenwarner5183]

@@blackeyedsusan727 yes she does and with the British economy in free fall I doubt many care what style it is. Most people have much more important things to be concerned about.

[@AdrianSpencerElizalde]

Queen Mary’s crown is a great example of noble simplicity. It’s elegant, but not ostentatious.

[@mariaassuntamarras2086]

Really???🙄🙄🙄

[@alinaCatwatcher]

@@mariaassuntamarras2086 LMAO

[@michelepatsos6654]

Lolllllllll. Dumb

[@lsmith9249]

Adrian Spencer Elizalde Crowns are ostentatious, those with wealth wanted to show off that wealth

[@ashremains1215]

Stealing diamonds from 10 year old they oppressed & colonized is beyond ostentatious. Wearing the stolen diamond to this day is inexcusable.

[@truefairytale164]

Can you make a video about Rajiya Sultan the Queen of Delhi and Rani lakshmi bai the Queen of Jhansi... They were the most fearless warriors who met a tragic end.... I think that their stories deserve to be known...

[@aceofspades8634]

I’m intrigued! I’m ashamed to admit I haven’t heard about either of them before, but yes please, that would be interesting!

[@SHRAVS1012]

Even Rani Abakka Chowta from Karnataka. She was one of the earliest Indians to fight against colonialism. She repulsed the Portuguese for 4 decades to defend the port of Ullal.

[@generalvictoriouskilljoy8146]

do you have any links on them to share?

[@truefairytale164]

@@generalvictoriouskilljoy8146 That's the thing , there aren't much information about them in English.

[@Shubhamkumar-cg1ze]

Yeah! Our queens were not like the European queens , they were warriors and were eager to give their lives for their people.

[@Nikki-tx6kh]

Girl, I'm literally reading Mary's biography now. Excellent timing. I love Mary, she was a fascinating woman.

[@Mohammed16684]

You’re the only one.

[@marystrope1345]

Yes I read the book years ago.. I gave it to my mom to read.. she kept it for about five years until I asked for it back.. she bought me a replacement for the book because she said she wore it out reading it over and over again. It was apparently her favorite book ever.. kinda struck a nerve in her about life with my father and the difficulties in raising my brother and I.

[@cberry6751]

Wasn’t she the queen who was a kleptomaniac?

[@cberry6751]

Which book are u reading? I’d like to get it!

[@cberry6751]

What’s the name & who is the author?

[@TheGoldielover]

She chose the crown I hoped she would. I've always thought the 1911 crown was the most attractive of all of the existing consort crowns. The arches are far more elegant than those on the Queen Mother's crown. I'll be looking forward to seeing it on the big day. Queen Mary was well known for altering and designing various pieces of jewellery to her own specifications. She commissioned the Lovers Knot tiara that Catherine now wears. That originally had pearls on the top, but they were replaced with diamonds a bit later. She also altered the Girls of Great Britain and Ireland tiara, which had been a wedding gift and was the late Queen's favourite by also removing the pearls on top. Both changes were for the better in my opinion. She accumulated a lot of the jewellery that is currently worn by the royals. She wasn't known as the Magpie for nothing.

[@nenisguevaragomez8122]

Why magpie???😅

[@TheGoldielover]

@@nenisguevaragomez8122 Magpies are popularly thought to be attracted to shiny objects, and will take them if they get a chance. (Whether this is actually true is a different matter altogether, but it is a well known trope in European art and music from years gone by.) Queen Mary has been nicknamed The Magpie for years, and the name is often used affectionately on various blogs devoted to royal jewellery.

[@hotoneinspai]

100% agree and now having seen it in action...the changes were...superbly done

[@Janellabelle]

Lol omg 😂 that is so cute! I love jewelry more than the average wo/man, myself. So i understand her compulsions to gather more More MORE. Lol

[@kathrynjordan8782]

Queen Mary's crown is beautiful. I love the noble simplicity of it as well as elegant. I remember reading a biography of her and how she helped save the monarchy in the wake of the Abdication. I found her to be such an amazing woman.

[@mariaassuntamarras2086]

Simplicity ???🤔🤔🤔

[@blackeyedsusan727]

​@@mariaassuntamarras2086 "Save the monarchy". Too bad she succeeded. Think of how much better off the UK would be without this antiquated system? The British monarchy (because there are many, many more than just one 🙄) is interesting - as are the others - in the days where the monarchy and the politics + history of the country are part and parcel of the same. But, that has not been the case since Victoria. So, this here is merely a curiosity about some shiny jewels 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@SimplymeSVEN18]

@@blackeyedsusan727 Last I checked they're struggling to survive brexit. Throw in a presidency and they'll go bankrupt entirely.

[@LukeSilverstar1000]

Excellent video! Queen Mary is tied with Victoria as my favorite British Royal. She helped save the monarchy in the wake of the Abdication, and following her example is what made her granddaughter such an exemplary Queen. 🇬🇧 👑

[@ArchangelAva]

Victoria was a horrendous queen

[@blackeyedsusan727]

​@@ArchangelAva Honestly. She was a Darth Vader of the British Empire! Who gives a toss? Prince Albert was much more interesting, if one had to choose 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@shellecapos8574]

Just think Edward coulda been like Charles and not abdicated at all.

[@sabrinazakrowski1399]

​​@@shellecapos8574e wouldn't let go of marrying Wallis Simpson, and there was no way in 1936 that the British government or the royal family would've allowed him to keep the crown with her as his bride because she was American and twice divorced. The whole business was quite the scandal at the time.

[@ruthsaunders9507]

@@shellecapos8574 Edward was a traitor. The divorce was a convenient excuse to be rid of him.

[@ludovica8221]

Art Deco starts after WW1 Queen Mary's crown belongs more to the Art Nouveau/Belle Epoch/Gilded Age

[@sarahy1680]

Thank you! Every time I heard 'Art Deco' I was going 'nooooooooooo!' Those elongated teardrop arches scream Belle Époch.

[@commodorezelda]

I think it's a shame that they're changing the 8 half arches to 4. It looks so elegant as it is.

[@caseyslove]

Charles crown has 4 arches, so 4 arches for her.

[@justineharper3346]

Every time I see a video about this era, I’m so thankful that the world got George instead of Edward. We really dodged a bullet there

[@sweetanarchi]

I'm clueless, what if it were Edward

[@justineharper3346]

@@sweetanarchi he was a Hitler sympathizer, and almost certainly would have sided with him in the war. It really could have been bad

[@lemorab1]

@@sweetanarchi Edward was gossiping about British troop movements to Italian Fascists at cocktail parties in Italy and was seen as a security risk, which he was. Had Hitler successfully invaded the British Isles, he would've put Edward back on the throne as a puppet king. This would've changed European history and made WWII much more difficult for the Allies to win, if not impossible.

[@findingbeautyinthepain8965]

@@silvermoontearoom7123 To be fair, I believe he only sided with Hitler because Hitler promised to reinstate him as king, and his wife was determined for him to be reinstated.

[@debramoss2267]

​@@sweetanarchi he was in cahoots with Hitler

[@Tara_Masika]

The photos are just beautiful. What a privilege to be able to see them. I'm watching this whilst drinking a cup of coffee and have just had an opportunity to time travel! ❤️

[@maLebowitz]

Queen Mary was born during Queen Victoria's reign and died during Queen Elizabeth the secound's let that sink in for a moment

[@niyatis0207]

She did live through the reigns of six monarchs!!!

[@niyatis0207]

And i think she's on par with kosem sultan, as she also lived during the reigns of atleast six sultans (including her father-in-law?)

[@johnherlihy4739]

Fantastic video! My Mom, who was part Norman English, passed away in December 2022 at age 94. She fondly remembered Queen Mary of Teck! We both used to share stories of Queen Mary’s grit and frankness! Queen Elizabeth was blessed to have her as a role model an Grandmother!

[@schneeroseful]

"Divorce is against the Angelican Church"...yes, sure. It literally has been found to divorce

[@BiG-JuPO1O1]

Ah yes King Henry the 8th divorced and terribly abused Catherine of Aragon and his first daughter Queen Mary all because she couldn't give him a son. Which she did at first but the baby died at infancy.

[@debramoss2267]

Exactly

[@leahengland6704]

We are not catholics pedophiles! Thank GOD We are Anglicans Protestants ❤ Our church of England allows divorces

[@ArchangelAva]

The hilarity of the start of the Church of England

[@leahengland6704]

@@ArchangelAva Shut up catholics pedophiles!

[@ZalthorAndNoggin]

Superb video as usual Lindsay. As a true Englishman steeped in British Royal History, it is particularly enjoyable to watch really well researched and documented videos by you. Thank you very much for your tirelss good work.

[@lauratude5132]

I’ve always wondered why the Windsors share a name with a castle, nice to know the backstory now.

[@louiesmom7394]

Your videos are so fantastic!! I look forward to every one of them, especially when the coronation is approaching. I love the tradition and ceremony. 🥰

[@rld1278]

It has recently been discovered that Wallis did not want to marry Edward, tried desperately to get out of it, but failed and felt forced to marry him. She realized too late she loved the man she divorced for Edward. Letters in her pen were found stating as much. She even wrote to parliament stating she had no desire to marry the king.

[@lfgifu296]

How I love bonus videos!! I am reluctant to take Edward VIII’s testimony of his mother’s coolness as sure proof, as she stopped supporting him after the abdication and never forgave him. Also she and George were very close!

[@sandrahart6033]

I must agree with you! He was a petulant man child who tended to sulk if he didn’t get his own way (after all he pretty much blackmailed Wallis into marrying him through threats of suicide). He would never have forgiven his mother for putting the Crown & duty first, over his own wants

[@l.m.2404]

@@sandrahart6033 H'mmmm sounds very current and familiar except for the reason ( substitute father for mother here). lol

[@sandrahart6033]

@@l.m.2404 yes! Yes!! Yes!!!! I have thought that a certain person 😉😉 reminded me of his great uncle for a long time

[@piratesswoop725]

I think David was just a difficult child to love. Mary was close with her youngest surviving son, Prince George and they bonded over their shared loved of interior design! And unliked what the movie about his life shows, she was very devoted and cherished her youngest son, Prince John. Before the war, and especially when he was still a little boy, there are many photos of them together, and actually she and his sister Mary had gone for a walk with him the morning of the day he died.

[@l.m.2404]

@@piratesswoop725 It doesn't change the fact that both David and Henry were an d are immature, self-centered, entitled boors that have less self awareness than a rock.

[@bibaoreo4355]

Mary would die again if she saw who would wear her crown 😭

[@sashamoore9691]

😂😂😂😂

[@margiesoapyhairbillian4754]

Exactly 😢😢😢😢😢😢

[@dancarl6803]

Get over it. Diana is long dead.

[@obibraxton2232]

Lmaoo that part! I do not think she’d approve of Camilla whatsoever especially giving Camilla’s family history of being the side chick

[@magsxoa4519]

I would be embarrassed if I were her.

[@Dionysus999]

I've been watching your videos for a couple months now and they are always very entertaining and informative, thanks so much for the content and I can't wait for the next video 💚💚💚

[@user-ii3vn8tn3q]

It’s beautiful. Although it’s the odd number of arches that I like. So changing to four, changes the primary feel of the design.

[@chrizzalifa]

I always use your videos to listen to while im doing my makeup for work and it just fulfills me :)))

[@rogerd777]

For someone of my age (mid 60's), when I think of Queen Mary, the ship RMS Queen Mary comes to mind. She was still in service until I was 11, and is now in Long Beach, California harbor being used as a hotel and tourist attraction. My mother was English, and my maternal grandfather I believed traveled on the RMS Queen Mary.

[@cakefaceLala]

OMG THAT SPOOKY BOAT OUTSIDE THE AQAURIUM OF THE PACIFIC ACTUALLY LIKE FLOATED???

[@shelbelee]

I feel the same when I hear queen Mary. The queen Mary is a beautiful ship. I train detection dogs and I have had the honor of searching with my dog on that ship. Such a cool experience

[@Kinglystateof]

I can always count on the TEA with HTT!!!

[@davethelen4327]

I absolutely love the fact that Camilas great grandmother was Alice Kapel who was Edward the 7ths mistress.Talk about history repeating itself! unbelievable!!

[@sjohnson65456]

It truly is unbelievable! Say, to come up with it for a work of fiction would be laughed at because it's too easy (no pun intended 😅). Reality is crazier!

[@markmh835]

Does that make Charles and Camilla 3rd cousins?

[@jackiekidwell5004]

Another delightful, educational episode !! Once you start watching you can't 🛑 stop so watch out !! I love all things Mary Tudor so I'd want to wear her crown 👑👑 as Queen - that'd probably be a lot of bad luck as unhappy 😭💔😭 as her life was, huh ?? But anyways, I just wanted to add, this is a great 😃😄👍👍 program and I'm so thrilled I'm subscribed !!

[@jackiekidwell5004]

@@silvermoontearoom7123 Hey 👋!! Good question !! 😉😉

[@l.m.2404]

I believe Jackie Kidwell miswrote and meant to write, Mary Tech and not Tudor.

[@jackiekidwell5004]

@@silvermoontearoom7123Thank you for the information, but I'm sorry to hear that. ☹️☹️

[@jackiekidwell5004]

@@silvermoontearoom7123 I personally thought Cromwell was terrible !! 😑😑😐😐☹️☹️

[@l.m.2404]

@@silvermoontearoom7123 The only reason that I surmised it to be Teck is the fact that Queen Mary Tudor's crown was dismantled in 1649 after the execution of Charles the First.

[@sophroniel]

Mary's many male children were exactly what Henry 8th had dreamed & wanted! I wonder how history would've played out had Mary been Henry 8th's only daughter and if she had 5 brothers, no Elizabeth or Edward.... Interesting thing to think about, I guess. Does anyone else ever think about this kind of thing??

[@charlottemunday7311]

Your comment appears to display that you believe Queen regent Mary 1st (House of Tudor, daughter of Henry 8th) had children? (She didnt). Queen consort Mary of Teck had many sons. I do indeed think about if "Henry the 9th" had survived to adulthood. If that is not the case then I would think about re-wording it. In addition, many Queens had even more potential children (check up Queen Annes many pregnancies, Queen Elizabeth Woodville, Queen Charlotte)

[@kathleenwarner5183]

@@charlottemunday7311 She worded it very well, you might have just read it too fast.

[@eliskagray1546]

Perfect. Another episode makes my Friday complete. Thank you Lindsay

[@niuyumingg]

I feel just the same

[@Alusnovalotus]

Yup. She can spill the tea with the beat of them. 🫖

[@julianneheindorf5757]

It’s rather annoying that people keep referring to Camilla as “queen consort”. There is no need to keep repeating the “consort” part. Every previous queen of England who was married to a reigning monarch, such as Queen Mary, were also “consorts”, yet the phrase is never used when talking about them. Camilla’s rank or station within the Royal family is akin to that of any queen who has gone before her, who was married to a king. I believe people keep insisting on using this phrase, because they hate her guts. By insisting on continuously using it, they are trying to diminish her status as queen.

[@dietriterocks]

Well...yeah.

[@professorbutters]

She’s just “Queen Camilla.” She’s Queen Camilla now. People need to get over it.

[@kathleenwarner5183]

@@professorbutters They don’t have to and they’re making their feelings known which they have every right to do.

[@MsG55580]

Thank you... it's disgusting to keep reigniting hatred for a woman who is a better duchess and soon queen than Diana was as a princess, FACTS.

[@MargaretBlyth]

There are a few other names people call her

[@donaldwarriner1640]

Queen Mary's taste was well recognized. If you look through the collections of royal jewels it becomes obvious. Queen Camila couldn't have picked a more beautiful crown.

[@MargaretBlyth]

Cotillard has no taste Just look at the awful hats she wears. The one she wore at Zara's wedding was one of the uglier ones

[@eddihaskell]

Queen Mary was not a kleptomaniac -- she just had an encyclopedic knowledge of all the furniture, ceramics, clocks, silverware, etc. that once belonged to a royal collection. George III's sons and other members of the Royal Family including her own brothers were notorious for handing out royal objects to girlfriends, lovers, and illegal wives. Queen Mary would sport a chair that once belonged in Windsor Castle for example, and hinted broadly that the chair would "be much at home with its siblings in Windsor Castle", and she could not leave a dinner party thinking about the poor object sitting there all alone, that sort of thing. When a host resisted her, she would send her driver around the next day to pick it up anyway. Few people had the social postion to resist her, a famous story exists that she once visited once of the Royal Aunts who lived in Kensington Palace, either a daughter or Victoria or of King Edward and pulled this line. The Royal personage's simple reply to Queen Mary about a clock in question was simply "it stays there".

[@lsmith9249]

Mary focused on miniatures that had a connection to the royal family and there is only one royal collection

[@Stlbluesgirl101]

I'm honestly very surprised by Queen Camilla's stature as well as the current Princess of Wales. And it's kinda neat that the late Queen Mother Elizabeth is the same as mine!

[@cberry6751]

@R MS It’s a disgusting turn of events that Camilla will wear a crown! Just shows how corrupt the monarchy is. Nothing is sacred. The laws of the Church of England were thrown out the window. Had his mother not come to Camilla’s defense before she died, people wouldn’t be accepting her as anything except what she is: a treacherous mistress determined to disrupt the course of history

[@wendyjones3586]

@R MS Yes mam..

[@Tekirai]

Me: *picks the most antique crown* Gimme Anne Boleyn’s crown 😌

[@mikaellaperez9078]

LMAO

[@BiG-JuPO1O1]

Or go for Catherine of Aragon, she literally fought the Scottish and won while King Henry was busy in France.

[@di3486]

@@BiG-JuPO1O1 she was not on the battlefield lol, the one that defeated the Scotts was the Earl of Surrey. why so many people have that fact wrong?

[@BiG-JuPO1O1]

@@di3486 She still lead them to victory when she was left to rule England while Henry was busy in France and came back losing the battle. Only for him to come home to Catherine defeating the Scotts, people of England loved her for a reason.

[@di3486]

@@BiG-JuPO1O1 Strategist, yes. I refer to those that picture her in armor and riding to battle😂

[@virginiathomasakaicedragon6579]

Let's face it pretty much all of those jewels come from colonizing. I do still love your show

[@GoddessDiv]

The Cullinan was a gift from a diamond miner to Edward VII (George V's father.) It took years to cut so the stones were given to Queen Mary. Not from colonizing.

[@virginiathomasakaicedragon6579]

@@GoddessDiv If they weren't colonizing he would not have found it. Africans just didn't jump up and give it freely. If people are under basic slavery they will do anything to get that boot off of their neck. If not for a minute

[@RowenaGandia]

Thank you for sharing, one of the historical details of Royal Family.. Amazing Info…

[@ludimaes1]

Very interesting I had heard about her being a kleptomaniac but I didn't really believe

[@wilberforcekigani1519]

I'm from Africa and I really feel sorry for Princess Diana😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@a.t.c.3862]

She should have worn her seat-belt.

[@abbypengelly1432]

why?

[@aceofspades8634]

I know this is an unpopular opinion, but to be honest, I’m not a big fan of George V and Queen Mary. They both had such terribly cold eyes and generally don’t seem like great people, however effective they were for securing their family’s position… I’m not surprised at Edward VIII’s remark of her in his private letter, even though he himself was no saint either. George VI seemed nice though :)

[@Alusnovalotus]

Then Queen Elizabeth is a very good descendant of theirs. She’s every inch her grandparents.

[@CallieMasters5000]

Edward was annoyed because Mary completely cut him off after he abdicated. She acted like he had resigned from the family as she didn't communicate with him and discouraged everybody else to as well. She obviously wanted nothing to do with Wallis and didn't give her any jewelry.

[@BiG-JuPO1O1]

Tbh they went through WW1 and for Mary WW2. In WW1 they had to change their name into more of English name like Windsor instead of what they originally had was more German name. Seeing other Royal Families collapse due to new belief of people seeing monarchy being part of the old world. They quickly adapted and tried to do everything they can to remain in power.

[@aceofspades8634]

@@Alusnovalotus Elizabeth II is definitely an improved descendant… Queen Mary may have been dutiful, but she failed as a mother for not noticing her own children being abused. As for George V, he was so critical and harsh that his kids developed digestion problems from the anxiety of having to eat with him during family dinners. Needless to say, they may have been effective constitutional monarchs, but as people (not royals, but people), they aren’t that extraordinary imho. In contrast, George VI was affable, strong, loving towards his daughters, and possessed a gift of dry wit (which he passed on to Elizabeth II). These qualities alone make me respect him on a much higher level than his parents. Having said this, everyone’s entitled to their own thoughts and this is, of course, a subjective topic. They are all dead and buried now, so I guess it doesn’t really matter. Have a nice day!

[@FortuneSushi]

​@@aceofspades8634 Thank you for your comment. ❤ informative!

[@angelamorales4050]

The royal family and their ever changing rules to suit their lives.

[@kellyfisher4378]

Awesome job! I was impressed on the subject of Queen Mary.

[@owlman_]

The size is the biggest giveaway for me. Queen Mary had towers of hair to house a big headdress, and Queen Camilla is the last royal woman with hair that has volume at the top. The Princess of Wales wears her hair down, so when her time comes, we can expect her to either go for the Queen Mother's crown or refurbish Queen Mary's crown to make it shorter.

[@GoddessDiv]

I would LOVE to see Alexandra's crown on her.

[@GrandDuchessAniya]

I was thinking Camilla wouldn't want to wear the Queen Consort Elizabeth's crown because she did not approve of Camilla's relationship with Charles.

[@debramoss2267]

That's the hoax, not true. They got along brilliantly and Camilla's dignified silence over the hoax is highly admired.

[@debramoss2267]

@R MS you may have been convinced of that, but it is not true. It was Queen Elizabeth who called upon Charles after Harry was born and his devastation to say enough is enough. By that time at least ten affairs were very public and numerous public dalliances strongly likely, Diana had decimated him. The hoax interview had convinced Diana and those without knowledge that an affair with Camilla had started. Her husband- not the nicest of chaps and friends with some of the perpetrators- had happily entered his two bob lies, too. Charles young Equerry, seventeen has been known as Harry's 'second Dad' ever since. His name is Mark Dyer and he has been there for him, I hope he still is, but I would assume Megan's dispensed with him, too. Queen Elizabeth has been cruelly portrayed in the hoax and following scam as a cold, distant harradon, especially in the Crown. It's just not true. Queen Camilla has been a tremendous support and her stoic silence against the hate and the lies to protect Diana's boys and memory is verging on saintly. She works incredibly hard and her programs and charities are not easy. One of the most challenging is bringing women and their children into safety from Conflict Zones who have been brutally sexually assaulted and raped as War Trophies. Most often have been forced to watch it happening to their little ones and the little ones forced to watch Mums. They become untouchable in several regions and Camilla with the phenomenal women involved provides everything they need to heal and for the life they choose. Many are highly qualified, now and living their happiest lives possible. Can you see just how far those lies are from this wonderful woman? Diana's affairs ended her own marriage and several others. Can you see how far those lies are from the vibrant joy focused woman? We loved Diana so much, you deserve to know the real person. She was no lamb to the slaughter she was far too sassy for that. Please fact check and release this anger, it serves no purpose, is very unfair and damaging to your health. It is fuelled by a very cruel hoax on Diana that literally terrified her to death.

[@suej9329]

@R MS The Queen and Camilla did get on well in the end, when she could see that she was good for Charles.

[@GrandDuchessAniya]

I assure you it was no hoax, and I was referring to the Queen Mother, Queen Consort Elizabeth. The crown in the collection from which Camilla could choose was the one made for her for when she was crowned next to King George VI in 1937. She may have liked Camilla as a person but not as a wife for Charles. She and Lord Mountbatten were the ones who convinced him he had to marry an aristocratic virgin, which Camilla was not, and Charles valued both their opinions. I'm sure Mountbatten had a hand in sending Charles away with the Royal Navy to separate him from Camilla, who married Thomas Parker-Bowles while he was gone.

[@kathleenwarner5183]

@R MS Well maybe you shouldn’t call people liars. Just saying.

[@kristitedrow1577]

I voted for Mary's crown. I had a feeling Camilla would pick it.

[@lyndanickerson1373]

Thank you for this video Lindsay! Are you going to be watching the Coronation Lindsay? I'm probably not going to be watching it due to the time difference.

[@greentree68]

I think she’s actually going to the UK to watch it in person!

[@АликсЛанская]

Какая великолепная семейка! Королева - бывшая любовница, куча награбленных драгоценностей, даже в скипетре алмаз - и тот уераденный! Браво!

[@kasie680]

I’d choose Queen Adelaide, it’s so beautiful and has more bling but out of the last 3 I’d choose Alexandra’s for the same reason, bling bling bling!

[@payrysdoscs4903]

Charlotte, Caroline of Brandenburg, and Caroline of Brunswick all came between Mary of Modena and Adelaide and all didn't have their own crowns, so no, the last 6 QCs didn't all have their own crowns. Caroline of Brunswick did have her marriage annulled before her husband's coronation, but Charlotte and Caroline of Brandenburg were both crowned. Not sure what crown they used, although I'm guessing it was Mary of Modena's.

[@tomcory1122]

Another really interesting video, thanks. Small amendment-Queen Mary wasn't a first cousin to Queen Victoria. Mary's mother Mary Adelaide was her 1st cousin. They share the same grandparents (George III and Charlotte). Also at the beginning it states the last 6 Queen Consorts but there is a gap of 4 between Mary of Modena and Queen Adelaide. (The wives of George I, II and III inc aforementioned Charlotte), and George IV. Two weren't crowned (George I's wife imprisoned etc). Also as a general note, why can't Camilla have a new crown? I learn from Lindsay that Mary paid for hers out of her personal finances, so surely Camilla is allowed to do the same? If you can't allow something for a coronation then when can you. Sounds like Camilla has been advised to do this even if the public purse isn't raided.

[@LDF1218]

Camilla can have a new crown. It would just look bad to spend all that money on a crown while their subjects are currently suffering due to high inflation and low wages.

[@nestorperez6867]

@@LDF1218 I mean, is not like they actually care about what real people go through. Kate spent around 300K in clothes only lasts year. So, there you go.

[@Edmonton-of2ec]

Queen Mary’s crown was actually designed to be a permanent consort crown. Camilla is simply using it for its intended purpose

[@lalaholland5929]

​@@LDF1218 and high cost of energy in this green world.

[@benjamintillema3572]

They are still first cousins, just once removed.

[@finesses1746]

Great watch as always!

[@CoalMnrsDotr]

Queen Mary had the Gibson Girl figure.

[@mrfearsmom8857]

I love the video of young Elizabeth at her parents coronation ❤️ the way she looks back at her grandma to see how to wave 😍 I couldn't imagine the English monarchy as it is today, if Edward stayed king

[@blackeyedsusan727]

You won't have to imagine: Charles will show you what a bunch of useless oafs they are. Except that the Nazi King was at least brave enough to put his love of his woman, wisely before the responsibilities that he would have failed at: had Charles had enough backbone to remain with Camilla from the start he would not have destroyed Diana's life and memory, and now disgrace the lives of his children and grandchildren with his foolishness and selfishness. He and former King Juan Carlos: two dotards and excellent arguments for abolishing monarchy.

[@suzyfarnham3165]

If Edward HAD stayed king...it was to be a morganatic marriage? The crown would them have still passed to George VI ?? IT would have made ZERO difference at all?

[@Wosiewose]

​@@suzyfarnham3165 Agree, it wouldn't have made any difference in the end, since Edward and Wallis never had any children - the crown would still have gone to Elizabeth; it would just have been twenty years later than actually happened (Edward died in 1972). But in that scenario, Elizabeth would have had 20 more years to enjoy her marriage, raise her children, and live a relatively "normal" life before having to shoulder the burden of being Queen. What I wonder is, would Charles and Andrew have turned out differently if Elizabeth had had that additional 20 years to be able to focus on her children's upbringing, instead of being forced to move it farther back on the burner to take over the duties of the monarch at such a young age? Another thing to wonder about, what direction would the country and WWII have taken if Edward had kept the throne, given his attitude toward the Third Reich? The outcome of WWII might have been very different, and not in a good way. There is, though, the possibility that Edward only latched onto Herr H. out of rebellion against his family. I'm sure somebody has probably written an alternate-history novel on that premise.

[@dominaevillae28]

@Wosiewose No, it was not rebellion. Edward VIII viewed himself as more German than English and felt that Hitler was a miracle worker.

[@luci1474]

Queens or princesses weren’t any more extraordinary than any women at the time or any time, at the end of the day…

[@katsmit]

I personally think Camilla Chose Queen Mary's crown because she probably was on bad terms with Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother since the Queen Mother was alive during the Diana/Charles/Camilla debacle. Camilla probably took one look at Elizabeth's crown and went hell no, then chose the next one up. Tack on the fact Queen Mary's wish for her crown to be the official Queen Consort coronation crown, yeah it sort of makes sense.

[@l.m.2404]

Where did you get your info from? The Crown? lol

[@andypham1636]

what the

[@richierich7229]

Diana was the maker and finisher of her destiny. The Queen Mother had nothing to do with it. Camilla was the one who didn't want to marry Charles in the 70s. No one forced her or Diana to do anything they didn't want to do.

[@trent7686]

@@richierich7229 That is not the point. The Queen Mother was a very conservative woman, in her lifetime she hated Wallis Simpson, whose history with Edward VIII we all know, do you really think she would have made an exception with Camilla? Seriously. No wonder he waited until his grandmother died to marry her.

[@seaztheday4418]

@@l.m.2404 No, it's been public knowledge for years that the Queen Mother was not a fan of Camilla. Well-regarded royal biographers have even confirmed that (for a time) "it was a fact that Camilla's name was not allowed to be spoken in the presence of Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother." (Robert Jobson, 2006). The Crown may be somewhat dramatized, but it's still based in historically verified fact, and if one is so concerned with accuracy, I'd advise doing a little research before jumping to any conclusions.

[@lilbatz]

Queen May was such a jewelry fiend, and had such a good eye for gems. Love it. I think it’s great Camilla will wear QM crown. It’s stunning, and no diamond controversy. I doubt Catherine will wear this crown for her coronation. I don’t think her husband would want anything in reference to his step mother harshing his day. (I don’t mind Camilla, but the whole drama of it all) Toss up between the Queen Mother’s crown or a reworking of Queen Alexandra’s for Catherine.

[@wruszka]

I disagree. I think Catherine will wear this crown for one reason - it was created with a thought that the future consorts would use it on their coronations and I think William would prefer to continue it - it saves money and carries on a family tradition

[@matthewmacpherson5071]

@@wruszka If Queen Camilla is still alive to see William become King, Catherine will more than likely wear the crown of Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother.

[@kozmikhannah]

My impression of Queen Mary is she was a magnificent and wise woman, who kept the dignity from old times.

[@displacerkatsidhe]

Honestly I'm surprised she didn't pick Alexandra's since Camilla's pickup line to Charles involved how her great grandmother was his great-great grandfather's mistress 🤮

[@lilymarinovic1644]

That may have made it a bit of an on-the-nose choice for her, and observers who know their history.

[@displacerkatsidhe]

@@silvermoontearoom7123 I'm not saying anything bad about Alexandra or Mrs Kepple buuuuut I think about the hilarity of the situation. Also the fact that Charles and Camilla might actually be half-second cousins.

[@lilymarinovic1644]

@@displacerkatsidhe well QE2 and Prince Philip, IIRC, were second cousins. Correction: Third cousins as well as.second cousins once removed. Inbred European royalty, sheesh!

[@displacerkatsidhe]

@@lilymarinovic1644 oh yeah they're technically related in multiple ways. Something like over twenty different ways..cause of course. Which explains their children to be honest... *Cringe* I just amuse myself at their creepy relationship's expense

[@christijenkins5184]

@@silvermoontearoom7123 that is so creepy, makes one shudder!! Remember he yelled at Diana why should i be the the only Prune of Wales not to have a mistress!?!

[@saxoeeee]

I juuuust saw a bbc report talking about this and it got me wondering about the history!

[@hotoneinspai]

I think you might have mentioned that the koh I Noor diamond was always controversial. It’s ownership has been challenged by at least three other countries not just India and indeed returning it to India will cause even more trouble... than keeping it

[@kathleenwarner5183]

Yes it would’ve been better not to take it but that’s the whole point of colonialism, enslave the people and take what they have or why bother. After almost 200 years you can’t give it all back without causing more problems. That area of India and Pakistan is a trouble spot already and it’s not like the Koh I Noor will help the people if they get it back. The Elgin Marbles definitely belong to Egypt along with all the mummies and grave goods but I don’t know if they’ve said they want the Elgin Marbles back. They’ve definitely said they want the mummies and other ancient grave goods but I don’t think it’ll happen. GB isn’t the only Country that stole things either.

[@CGKittenz]

Great excuse to keep something stolen. How about they allow the other countries to determine a loan scheme where each would hold in exhibit for a certain amount of time each. You know like other museums and zoos.

[@hotoneinspai]

Im not a diplomat nor a museum curator. Write this suggestion to H M The King via Buckingham Palace. London. and see what he thinks... Simple solutions sound great they "Rarely" are in practice. For example Why would The Taliban in Afghanistan offer to share ownership with Pakistan and why would India agree to share with either of these countries, after all thats three of the countries who clam ownership of the stone. and what about Britain, we got it as a "gift " does that make it four countries..I think it does. No one died to allow Britain to gain ownership of the Stone. Although it’s impossible to know exactly where the Koh-i-Noor came from orginally we do know it was pillaged along with Thousands of stones... Coloured stones were at that time deemed more worthy and so more valuable. Turco-Mongol leader Zahir-ud-din Babur came from Central Asia through the Kyber Pass (located between modern-day Afghanistan and Pakistan) to invade "India in 1526" establishing the Islamic Mughal dynasty and a new era of infatuation with gemstones. MIllions of People died fighting wars to gain controle of areas of land that Diamonds and other stones came from. The Mughals would rule northern India for 330 years, expanding their territory ( killing millions) across nearly all of present-day India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and eastern Afghanistan, all the while reveling in the mountains of gemstones they ... "inherited" ! Your idea has merrit for sure.

[@CGKittenz]

@@hotoneinspai Why should I write anything to anyone since you're the one advocating for the thieves to remain thieves? Your moral compass is screwed up, I am merely pointing out how flawed it is.

[@t.grimes9973]

Interesting subject; thanks for posting!

[@JoanneOz]

Queen Mary was by all accounts a very stern and very traditional lady. I think she would be very displeased.

[@kathygeorgiou7687]

Thanks for the Interesting info.

[@MatthewRX]

I know 8 half-arches is traditional continental European design (vs 4 half-arches for English crowns) but I hate that they are removing 4 of them. I just feel like it will loose some of its elegance and will look incomplete.

[@niyatis0207]

Queen Victoria and Queen Mary's mother Mary Adelaide were grandchildren of King George the third and therefore first cousins. This means that Queen Mary was actually the second cousin of Victoria's son Edward. So, when she and George wed, he literally married his aunt despite them being somewhat close in age 😅

[@matthewmacpherson5071]

Mary was not George V’s aunt because she was not his father’s sister, Queen Mary and King George V were second cousins once removed.

[@perlazywicz4684]

This Crown is WONDERFUL in Diana.👸🏼

[@rileyperkins2724]

Why should she not? She is, after all Queen Consort, as was Queen Mary.

[@maryhlad7501]

HM, Queen Mary was a very fascinating woman.

[@mediocremaiden8883]

I read that King George and Queen Mary, who's own father was the product of a morganatic marriage, were one of the few Royal Sovereign Couples who warmly received Archduke Franz Ferdinand and his beloved wife Countess Sophie Chotek (Or, Duchess Sophie of Hohenberg at this point) Because of The Archduke and his Morganatic Wedding most Royal Courts were told to ignore Sophie 😢

[@wruszka]

It was kinda similar the other way - Mary was looked down by many royals because of her father being a child from a morganatic marriage. Many royals believed she wasn't royal enough to be a Queen but Kaiser Wilhelm II was always nice to her and treated her like an equal, that's why Mary liked him a lot. Which I find to be interesting, because otherwise he could be rather snobbish

[@Royalforever-g2g]

I love King George V and Queen Mary 😊

[@michaelbressette2599]

I dont know anything about Camilla but I am fairly certain Queen Mary would NOT have approved. Seems like a casual disregard for Tradition & protocol.

[@suej9329]

We can’t know, but Maybe Queen Mary would have approved of her great grandson finally finding happiness with the woman he loved.

[@michaelbressette2599]

@@suej9329 Perhaps We wont ever know will we. I think the fact both Charles & Camilla where seeing each other while married just throws out the marriage vow & its meaning to their spouses. I put the blame on Queen Elizabeth for matching Charles with Princess Diana with their significant age differences & how Charles disregarded Diana's feeling in this & now we have a principless Queen Consort & king on the Throne. A marriage between 2 is sacred. Anyway it is what it is. I will keep my focus on Prince William & Kate.

[@beverleytinker2318]

Again with making things up

[@coribird5177]

And thank you for using the correct title of "Queen Consort" for Camilla.

[@uggggggghhhhh]

Sick of all of the Camila hatred. I swear, Camila gets dragged through the mud 1000 times more than Charles ever has. I blame Charles the most for that affair but also, get over it, people! It was decades ago or is she just permanently cancelled?

[@suzyfarnham3165]

Cancelled for me. That happens when you continue an affair for 30 years?? People sometimes find being a sl*t not a positive? She will ALWAYS be The Mistress to me. She could have just kept her legs closed???

[@marilyncuaron3222]

It was all HER fault, right? Boys will be boys . . .

[@darcybloom-boedefeld5046]

This was a wonderful program!

[@jeffersonmorant]

yeah it was, That’s so thoughtful of you Darcy, Thanks for your positive review, How are you and how’s the weather over there?

[@seaniebubble]

Lindsay I absolutely love your videos but please stop saying that Northern Ireland “ opted” to remain in the United Kingdom. Ps this isn’t hate. Just an Irish fan of your videos x

[@clintmacarthur7895]

It’s well documented, even through the Trusts webpage that even Prince Phillip received a recycled Coronet at Elizabeth’s request.

[@gratefulforabundance9043]

Aristocracy being visited by Queen Mary, used to have their household staff quickly remove all priceless pieces on the mantels and tables of their stately homes, so that Queen Mary didn’t steal them.

[@Sillybillyilly]

These types of crowns are always hideous...

[@Elfdaughter]

Of course, it could just be that she simply liked the style the best.... Personally, out of those three, I find it the most visually appealing, with the large teardrop designs.

[@KissesFromCanada]

Can you imagine being so wealthy for so long you have any number of crowns to chose from?

[@captaincrunch784]

ULTIMATE first world problem

[@Sarahdrybones]

Thank you for doing this. I enjoy this information

[@hassinaable]

Camila is not the queen ,,, no one no body gone likes her, she is the reason that we lost our angel, queen Diana 🥀

[@beverleytinker2318]

So Camilla put her in that car with a drunk driver didn't let her put on her seat belt, made her shack up that nite with the Egyptian instead of at home with her boys in the middle of the.night...get real

[@matthewmacpherson5071]

Camilla is very much The Queen whether you like it or not. Even if Diana were alive she wouldn’t be Queen because her and Charles were divorced at the time of her death.

[@mariainman3618]

thank you...... i love all the history ❤

[@corinnem.239]

The idea of that woman as Queen consort is nauseating. I will be sure to miss seeing the adulteress crowned. 🤮

[@briannaavalos9717]

Do you mean Diana? She was the one to have an affair first whilst breaking up two marriages and harrasing their wives

[@2CanadianEh]

❤❤

[@rhodvalenciaga2743]

Come on, Diana was an adulteress too.

[@miaomiaochan]

I mean, Queen Mary's crown was the least controversial choice given the other options and the circumstances surrounding the coronation. But given whose head the crown will be resting on, controversy will never be far away, because as far as most people are concerned, Camilla's the evil old witch who took Diana's rightful place. I loved Diana as much as anyone else, but we can't undo what has already happened. You have a choice of accepting this and moving forward or harboring bitterness and longing for the rest of your lives over something that will never be.

[@akaLaBrujaRoja]

Nope, people also have the choice of speaking out and reminding her how disgusting she is, never letting her rest easy thinking she got away with stealing Diana’s place. Hopefully some brave souls will give her the Ann Boleyn treatment and yell “whore” at her coronation procession.

[@stormyk244]

Agreed. Am I a Camilla fan? Not really. I don’t hate her, I’m just indifferent. But we can’t can’t keep saying “it should have been Diana”. It never would have been Diana. It was an unhappy union. They divorced. She passed away. Let’s allow the poor woman to rest.

[@BiG-JuPO1O1]

​@@stormyk244 Well people going say it regardless because Diana was nothing but filled with heart and connected to the people.

[@stormyk244]

@@BiG-JuPO1O1 I understand that and Diana was a very wonderful woman, but it doesn’t change anything. Even if she hadn’t died, she still wouldn’t have been Queen because of the divorce. Do people think she should have stayed in an unhappy marriage where she was treated so poorly?

[@jademeowsyou8121]

2 videos in a week?? You spoil us 😂

[@middi6]

If you are going to use a historical crown don't alter it.

[@Fanny-van-Feuerstein]

You are great 👍 good storyteller with a nice voice 🤗🤗.

[@maruty2108]

The queen mum hated Camilla…

[@sandrajohnson2832]

Queen Mary of Teck🌹 very elegant and strikingly beautiful queen.

[@MsJubjubbird]

Well of course Edward wrote that he didn't like his mother later on in her life. She was against his marriage to Wallis and for him being sent away out of sight and out of mind to the benefit of the monarchy after the abdication,. Nor was she happy about him undoing all her hard work to preserve the monarchy by absconding from his duties and eventually abdicating. I also imagine it was easier to be involved with the upbringing of her grandkids than her own kids as she was no longer having to fulfil the duties of queen.

[@lisbethllorente9220]

What I cannot understand is why they have so much to say against Meghan being divorced but they accepted Camila as the consort queen when she was the reason the reason why Diana and Charles broke up.

[@suzyfarnham3165]

Meghan wasn't having an affair with Harry either? All of a sudden Cammilla is the pinnacle of womanhood? Nope...STILL A MISTRESS.

[@roberthossen8354]

Glad to hear the Kohinor is not included and that only 4 half arches will be used, more British. Thank you!

[@andrewnelson3403]

Yes the four arches represent England, Scotland, Ireland and Wales as I understand. The removal of the other arches is appropriate as the Monarch is no longer Emperor of India.

[@di3486]

Who cares, is just a diamond.

[@Hunlover123601]

​@@di3486it isnt just a diamond. this thing is worth more than most people will see in a lifetime

[@florentinogavino7072]

Crown of thorns suits her best

[@jaynefromwayne6223]

Harry is almost Mary’s twin.

[@Amelia-vk4jt]

All these pictures of Mary with George reminds me of how much he looked like his Romanov cousin

[@reitapresley925]

i think KC111 is the first Romanov King in 300yrs.

[@kathleenwarner5183]

@@reitapresley925 Charles has no Romonov blood. George V and Tsar Nicholas II were related through their mothers. Queen Alexandra, Edward VII’s wife, was a princess of Denmark and Tsarina Elizabeth, birth name Dagmar, was Queen Alexandra’s sister, also a Princess of Denmark. Nicholas wife Alexandra was a granddaughter of Queen Victoria as her mother was Queen Victoria’s daughter Princess Alice. Their children were blood relatives of Queen Victoria but the Tsar was related by marriage. Prince Philip’s mother was related to the Romanov’s through his mothers Danish Royal blood. That’s why he, not Queen Elizabeth gave a DNA sample to confirm the identity of the bodies of the Romanovs. They only died 105 years ago, not 300.

[@reitapresley925]

@@kathleenwarner5183 thankyou i didnt know he was the king. 105yrs ago. i believe KC111 is a direct descendent of dracula. but im sorry as i cud be wrong on that also. i also thought Prince Phillip was Charles father.

[@suzyfarnham3165]

@@reitapresley925 ???What Philip IS the father of Charles?!!What Kathleen is trying to explain it Queen Alexandra[who was married to Edward VII and great grandmother to Queen Elizabeth].......had a sister Dagmar who married a Romanov. It was through the 2 Danish princesses that Nicholas Romanov and King George V were cousins. They were related by marriage not blood.

[@reitapresley925]

@@suzyfarnham3165 oh thankyou.

[@selini52]

Ridiculous they hardly differ! And the crowning ceremony was so costly this would have made hardly a difference. People skip meals to feed their children in Britain and these old people want to have a future by crowning themselves!

[@puddincup9879]

I wonder how many people hate Camila