As someone who mainly follows the Tonys, I think is wild how the Olivier don't seem to be transparent at all with the eligibility, sorting what falls into which category, how many nominees per slot, etc. The Tonys appear much more diligent in communicating with the public. Totally can see a scandal happening anytime someone looks too deep into it just like what's happening with the Nebula Awards in the Book world
@anotherpace5 ай бұрын
hugos? or is there drama with the nebulas I've missed?
@gab354465 ай бұрын
Lol you're right, I fully switched the names
@IloveHeartlandX5 ай бұрын
For me, though I will admit I am very biased as a big fan of the show, I was shocked Claire-Marie Hall was the only one of Operation Mincemeat's actors to be left out of the acting categories, thrilled for both David Cumming and Zoe Roberts that they got in but no one can say that Claire-Marie does not also deliver an absolutely stunning performance in that show and is also absolutely worthy of a nomination-tbh, the whole leading/supporting thing doesn't really work for a show like Operation Mincemeat because it's such an ensemble driven piece but since there's not a Best Ensemble Award, it does seem like somewhat of an omission that the whole cast got nominated except for her. I was also very surprised by the omission of Jamie Parker in Best Actor because he was incredible in Next To Normal and again there doesn't seem to be an obvious reason why they would nominate the other three and not them. Was also surprised not to see either Melanie LaBarrie or Gloria Ontiri for Hadestown because they were the standouts of that show for me and definitely deserved it. I was also expecting The Witches to at least get something for set and costumes because they were stunning and I was quite disappointed that most of the set design noms were actually for video design because I feel like a lot of really great sets got missed. And yes it was super disappointing not to see any female directors in the Best Director category, and I also echo the sentiments about Nicholas Hytner, Guys and Dolls at the Bridge has so many moving parts which must have been so challenging to co-ordinate so I'm surprised he didn't get a nod there. I'm not super surprised that Doubtfire didn't get any nominations as a show, but Gabriel Vick was so incredible as the lead that it does seem like an omission that he didn't get an acting nod. I hope Sam Tutty gets one next year for Two Strangers after the West End transfer because he would definitely deserve it-as would Dujonna Gift!
@sparklequeen4875 ай бұрын
I am SHOCKED Melanie La Barrie did get a best supporting actress nom
@melissagola37865 ай бұрын
Same! I had convinced myself that reprisals don't have acting noms (never really looked at the Olivier awards) in some kind of weird quirk? But nah Nicole Scherzinger is right there with a nom for sunset boulevard (plus Grace for subset boulevard) so I have no clue why Hadestown was missed outside of best revival.
@kimber11buddha5 ай бұрын
While I don’t think the Tony nomination categories are perfect, I do appreciate the splitting up of musicals and plays for performances and creative categories. I feel for those missing out on the recognition for their wonderful work in the UK.
@kathleenewing36735 ай бұрын
I wonder if Hadestown was a victim of Covid and was supposed to be back in London sooner and with some of the original cast.
@jspihlman5 ай бұрын
"There are too many stairs and I drink champagne" is a BIG MOOD! 😂
@mollymcdade40315 ай бұрын
I’m actually really interested in the technicality of if Accidental Death of An Anarchist counts as a revival - because it’s not just a reimagined staging, it’s a newly English-translation version that drastically updates the setting from 1970s Italy to modern day London and also includes a whole new meta-theme about the Met police. When does a play count as a revival if it’s revival that is essentially a new adaptation? That’s hypothetical btw it’s just really interesting
@dylansmith18335 ай бұрын
I still cannot believe Hadestown was marked a revival. Probably the biggest shocker for me. Nicolas Hytner in my opinion was robbed of best director. You and me can agree on this one that Kyle Ramar Freeman should’ve been nominated! But I’m still happy about these nods, especially for Mincemeat!
@willrexdunn5 ай бұрын
hate to say it but I think there's a little bit of racism in Kyle not being nominated. All of the nominees in his category were white and his performance was so much more powerful than some of the nominees :(
@danielrobinson73505 ай бұрын
Hadestown has been in an eligible theatre before, it can’t count as a New musical.
@hannahfagan99045 ай бұрын
I was saddened to see none of the actors from the Effect nominated. Paapa Essiedu and Taylor Russell were both totally captivating
@minirth.maggie5 ай бұрын
I love your in depth analysis. Great video!
@joeevans57705 ай бұрын
Loved seeing two curve productions mentioned in snubs. I adored them both (hope a chorus line gets remembered enough for a nom next year)
@MickeyJoTheatre5 ай бұрын
So do I!
@hannahdelagrense50845 ай бұрын
I think Johnny Flynn deserves it so much more than Tennent. As much as I appreciate these stunning performances from stars like Tennent in Shakespearean plays, it's nothing new. It's hardly a revelation that Tennent can brilliantly play Macbeth. He's been brilliant and awarded for Hamlet, Richard 3rd and any number of these roles. Compared then to a nuanced, subtle, meta performance of Flynn playing a man, playing Hamlet, surely THAT is the more complex performance? Surely we should be rewarding newer plays and newer perfomers, like Tuppance Middleton and Flynn who have not been awarded these acolaids before, rather than continuously celebrating people who we already know are excellent and who probably didnt have to dig that deep to play Macbeth....again....and this isn't to say I don't love Gatis and Tennent et al. I just think they wouldn't benefit as much from these awards and I want new talent celebrated and highlighted.
@MickeyJoTheatre5 ай бұрын
I quite agree! The dimensions of Johnny Flynn's performance were astounding.
@yankee045 ай бұрын
What would it take to get five nominations in the musical acting categories? Why aren’t categories open to both plays and musicals given 5 automatically? Would Hadestown have been eligible for creative categories since it was considered a revival?
@palomafreitas33125 ай бұрын
Donal Finn, I get him not getting the nominee but I personally was just entranced by his performance so I’m thinking we better all vote for the what’s on stage awards
@ShuntedMate5 ай бұрын
I think that he had a few shows off between opening and the cut off for the Olivier season so actually not all of the people voting would have seen him.
@johnmurphy51795 ай бұрын
Could have had at least 6 nominations for best actors in a musical. The male lead in Mrs doubtfire should at least got nominated
@michaela39105 ай бұрын
I know the Oliviers don't have the same effect on shows running as the Tony's do so I'm sure Hadestown will continue and run and be fine but still.... Justice for Hadestown.
@Upsallauniversity1235 ай бұрын
Have u watched " the human body " starring keeley hawes???
@MsDaphne135 ай бұрын
I agree with you about the Best Actor in a Musical possible nominees. I'm as big an Operation Mincemeat fan as anyone, but did it really deserve a Best Actor nomination over all of the other candidates you mentioned??
@mrschurchill29984 ай бұрын
The Human Body at the Donmar Warehouse I’m sure would have been eligible as opened in January 2024? Keeley Hawes is absolute force in this! Also Jack Davenport. Their chemistry was insane.
@Van_Wendigoh5 ай бұрын
Claire-Marie Hall of operation Mincemeat. Absolutely outstanding performance, also the ONLY actor of the entire 5-person cast not to get nominated for anything (Natasha Hodgson nominated for Best Actress in a Musical, David Cumming for Best Actor in a Musical, Jak Malone for Best Supporting Actor, Zoe Roberts for Best Supporting actress). Huge missed opportunity to complete the set
@Showtunediva5 ай бұрын
All of the booktubers I am following say A Little Life is very sad so I am not surprised at all to hear that the play is also trauma porn.
@michaeladkins65 ай бұрын
I would have appreciated you reading the nominees for Best Supporting Actors in a Musical. It would have meant using the words Jack and Wolfe in a sentence. If you could do that in the future. it would be great.
@ThexImperfectionist5 ай бұрын
Forgive my ignorance but if a show is considered "entertainment" or a "family show" is it ineligible or less likely to get creative or acting noms?
@MickeyJoTheatre5 ай бұрын
Definitely not ignorance as we often aren't sure exactly of the rules! Based on the nominations for My Neighbour Totoro last year, it seems Entertainment/ comedy nominees are eligible for creative and acting noms, yes.
@Upsallauniversity1235 ай бұрын
What about ruth wilson ???
@palomafreitas33125 ай бұрын
I didn’t see Edward Scissorhands in the dance category and that was FABULOUS
@aviationphan18475 ай бұрын
Agree, one of the best things I have seen in a long time
@alexjones62195 ай бұрын
I was most upset La Cage aux Folles wasn’t nominated for best revival. My favourite show last year 🥺
@thomasconnolly67425 ай бұрын
Im going to be controversial yet brave. I personally think Grace Mouat deserves more recognition for her performance in bake off. I love the show but i personally think she carried it with her incredible vocals and amazing acting performance.
@ellie19815 ай бұрын
The fact that Ain’t Too Proud and Tosh Wanogho-Maud got nothing is a travesty. They really need to explain why musicals get fewer nominations to plays. Thought it was extremely weird for Sunset Boulevard to get nominated for Set Design.
@MickeyJoTheatre5 ай бұрын
Yup, I agree, and re the Sunset set design nom, it's very much about the video team as well.
@richardmccarthy95805 ай бұрын
I went to see Just One More Day yesterday (good grief getting a pair of tickets is difficult) 13 year old daughter and myself had a great time. We also saw Great British Bake Off Musical (twice!)….both I thought were good enough for Entertainment category….plus Craige Els does a very good Geldof (from someone old enough to have witnessed the event)……plus Crazy for You not nominated for musical or revival….complete bonkers ! Again saw in twice including driving down from Manchester on New Years Eve to see last ahow
@lennies_mindful_life5 ай бұрын
So I take it Troubadour Wembley isn't in the club? as I would thought newsies would have got the choreography nom
@MickeyJoTheatre5 ай бұрын
It is, but Newsies was last year!
@lennies_mindful_life5 ай бұрын
@@MickeyJoTheatre thanks I wasn't sure
@palomafreitas33125 ай бұрын
LOUIS MCCARTNEY FROM ANARCHIST DESERVES ALL THE NOMINATION SPOTS. BEST PERFORMANCE OF THE SEASON
@annacalstone6105 ай бұрын
I'm going to join the chorus of people saying it's not right that 4 out the 5 cast members of operation mincemeat get acting nominations but Claire didn't when she is just as deserving. Though it is very on theme for her character in the show. Also I think it's a shame that a Little Life didn't get a best new play nomination as that cast deserve recognition for the fact all 8 of them did every performance 8 shows a week for 18 weeks (1 in richmond, 12 in pinter, 5 in savoy). I felt emotionally drained from 1 performance, how on earth the 8 of them got through it I don't know. Glad to see acting nods for 3 of them at least, very well deserved.
@melissagola37865 ай бұрын
😭 I imagined the medals they'd give me...
@LynnHermione5 ай бұрын
shoving stranger things under "other" is a snub, they hate it because it's popular
@MickeyJoTheatre5 ай бұрын
It's highly likely Stranger Things shoved themselves into that category!
@emhu25945 ай бұрын
Rachel Tucker did so many great shows. If she has no nominations, what does Olivier awards even matter?
@MickeyJoTheatre5 ай бұрын
She has spent most of her career replacing in roles - Wicked, We Will Rock You etc. But also, she did get an Olivier nomination when she did Come From Away.
@Midlander835 ай бұрын
@@MickeyJoTheatredo the Oliviers allow nominations for takeovers in a role? It seems they used to - Alex Jennings in My Fair Lady replacing Jonathan Pryce, Maria Friedman in Chicago replacing Ruthie Henshall… just wondering if/when that changed.
@Upsallauniversity1235 ай бұрын
I rhink olivier has a habit of nominating known tv or film actor or actress
@yaelhoefs47915 ай бұрын
It’s okay that you are not able to speak Dutch. Our language is not easy 😅 you said Celindes name closer to German. But again it’s fine!
@MickeyJoTheatre5 ай бұрын
I studied German for a few years so that makes sense! I will ask my Dutch friend Danny for more help 😅
@aarushicrystalis79985 ай бұрын
unfortunately i dont know about non-shakespeare, but this was a particularly bad year for shakespeare plays, david tennant was good, but both kenneth branaughs and ralph feinnes macbeth were awful. there was also just less shakespeare this year, the incredible king lear at the almeida is just about ineligible
@wheelchichomeblog71935 ай бұрын
Ed Larkin was robbed. It’s crazy there aren’t 5 nominated in musicals. Have the powers that be ever said why? Doesn’t make sense.
@EdFortune5 ай бұрын
I'd have been very surprised if Maureen Lipman doing a one woman show, that's pretty much her career at this point and she's not exactly good at making friends.