Who Was Worse For The Mongols MC? Doc Cavazos or Lil Dave?

[@Youniversalclips]

I just did 21yrs in a MC. It’s been 5months I hung it up living a 100% sober life.. life has been amazing and my brain is relaxed n happy. RESPECT

[@KernowekTim]

Fair play to you. You have a strong, resolute character. Hang tight, five months will turn into five years, and more, if you can. Be proud of yourself, you've earned it, so far; imo.

[@VegasProfileStories]

@@Youniversalclips I’ve had members from multiple clubs that have left after 20, 30, hell even a couple 50 years. Most of them talk about the freedom from the intense political lifestyle and the freedom to just ride when they please and the stress melting away. It’s definitely an entire change in motion for you guys. Almost like getting out of prison and missing prison for us convicts. You guys get institutionalized and it takes time to shake it. You’ve never been more free than you are right now. 🙏🏻

[@BobbySchaffer]

they don’t have a beer commercial that shows it only works once a year and better when you stop all together.

[@hardchooligan]

How is this even a topic its clearly doc. He gave the feds the trademark, recruited non bikers, got in a war with the Mexican mafia, and the club literally almost shut down by the end of his Rico. By the end of daves time, the club is bigger than ever. Not saying Dave did no wrong, but look at the state of the organization after each person left. Not even close

[@OnePercenterBBNCBC]

100% Doc damn near ruined the Mongols

[@HAMMER_2.2]

Just drama for a video

[@robjewish8163]

100%

[@flashyfernando3819]

Doc of course!!..he was too high key!!

[@frekitheravenous516]

I can speak to this. I patched in under Doc and patched out under Dave. They both did some good s**t for the club. They really did. But Doc royally screwed the club. Dave did his dirt, but Doc really went wild with doing whatever he wanted, regardless of what the club wanted. Doc was the worst for sure.

[@Ashley-z9b6q]

Really? Wow ya must've seen and went through a helluva ride 👌🫡 respect from 🇨🇦...native 💪💯

[@cbsshenanigans862]

Hope everyone has Happy Holiday's 💯

[@grouchyoleguy]

I wouldn't trust either of them but Until I see paperwork I can't believe what's being said about Dave , Roger should still be at head of the table

[@fightforfreedom-mf5cz]

I agree, Roger should be back at the head of the table.

[@herschelsquirts2338]

I read Doc’s book a long time ago. According to him Roger was a puppet that was put into that position so that he could run things behind the scenes.

[@KernowekTim]

Sound comment. Talk is one thing, seeing is knowing.

[@grouchyoleguy]

@@herschelsquirts2338 I wouldn't take anything from Doc as truth ,he ruined the M.C. and sent a lot of folks to prison , his actions proved he was narcissistic and didn't have slightest clue what brotherhood is

[@mikevega75]

The Mongols Mc growth in numbers has come at the cost of its standards, welcoming L.A gang members, drug users, chomos, and even guys without motorcycles. It used to be about quality, not quantity-...

[@BIGBOY_1312]

@@mikevega75 quit watching gangland

[@thisguy-xx6ud]

Merry Christmas Rick ! Hope you had good times with the kid and the Mrs !

[@stevensmall9398]

Once a cop caller always a cop caller. 28:18

[@motoboli00]

All of this, and taking in other diamond clubs cast outs, is why they'll NEVER be considered top five. Kicking out your best leaders for crumbs.

[@zacmoulton1941]

Big lance in the outro 🔥 merry Christmas to you and your family 🙏👊

[@jonathanvalle6582]

Doc was for sure worse

[@jordanolafson80]

Merry Christmas Rick and wishing you all the best for the new year

[@chazz735]

Hey buddy you doing ok? The reason that I ask is rumor is old George is leaning on you?. Happy new year dude. Hope it's all good..

[@anthonyaguilar8883]

Are you recording in your kitchen or bathroom? My brother has those tiles in his bathroom and my friend had them behind his kitchen sink 🤣🤣🤣

[@kpnordic1000]

Great video Rick MLH&R

[@waynesweeney2284]

Coming with that heat..🔥

[@chazz735]

Hey Rick how's it going? So I don't think you got my message.However I wanted to know how I can get a hold of you it's a good thing. I just don't want to sit and type. Lol. You know I want to talk to you normal. I will explain better later. You'll understand.. Ok hope you get this one. Later bud.

[@harddobe]

We need some more Vegas Prison Stories my man.

[@InfamousIke209]

Merry Christmas Rick... I send mines sir...

[@AdamMorgan2878]

G'day mate, hope you and your family are well. God bless 🙏🏻 ML&R

[@ChandoisGainesjr-fn9vr]

There will always be one good leader & that is junior. If doc would have stayed solid & not steal from the club he would have been a great mongols leader. Lil dave was cool too. But never ever tell your wife any club business. She did him dirty! Hella foul. He's still with her. Me personally i couldn't. They should have listened to red dog billy was an undercover cop. Red dog smelt it on him! 😂😂 Getting in war with the Mexican Mafia/surenos & having an on going war with 81 was crazy. Doc & lil dave were both bad. But doc takes the cake! I mean saling your clubs logo ratting & stealing from the club! Hell knaaaaaw!

[@davidcottingham3834]

Great content amen

[@fedsmoker7714]

Rick what happened why did you take your foot off of slicks neck?

[@VegasProfileStories]

No I’ve just kept my word when it comes to not spiking the ball. And I’m still on Slicks head for sure.

[@SidewaysBurnouts]

they started in 1965 as sgv downey venice and long beach unoffical chapters of the h.a. chester green and other angel drop outs living in witness protection came up with the idea of being mongols because the price of becoming official was all the heads of the guys on bzd paperwork.

[@angelobersito9770]

Im new here. Who isxthis commentator? Is he a club member or just a guybthat likes to talk?

[@Mr.kelly5]

That’s kool you’re using big lances song Keep pushing bro

[@BostonsBoss]

Salute

[@suthrlin82]

The group that left the casino floor in the elevator in Laughlin probably were sniping at the 81 compound across the river from Harrahs,

[@hellfish8201]

I'm surprised anyone wanted to be a Mongol after Doc, with the controversy with Lil Dave, the stuff in Europe (Germany mainly) and the infighting that went on in Australia, then the alleged souring of the alliance with Outlaws in the US, they continue to grow. Must be something good in that club to keep going with all those dramas

[@sdoe-l8t]

Yeah I don't get it either considering how many informants and agents have infiltrated from Billy Queen to modern times.

[@mikemartinez2857]

This isn't even a debate .. Should shine light on what patch member brought the worst heat on their club,Rocky Martinez was my neighbor In Sunland/Tujunga when he brought in Billy McQueen in the late 90s,got a first hand view of this on Mt Gleason. Doc brought a lot of Dropout's in.

[@ericcarr1648]

Great video, dude.

[@Dazed735]

You see the difference now. Your moving and ducking they ain’t just fade, stay off the air for a second. Dam don’t let your ego kill you.

[@waynesweeney2284]

Don't give up Brother keep that head held high and keep it pushing forward 💪 you got this G...🤘☘️

[@juniorwardproductions]

Would love to see you and demons row collaborate

[@quinnayze9332]

❤ WHT doesn't kill ya today strengthens ya tomorrow...keep your head way up man...mlh&r

[@JohnJan1200]

FIRST a bike and then Hang around with the Club, they will ask you for prospecting and then the fullpatch (maybe)! This will take easily 3-5 years! After that and all the checks maybe you become a member! No recruiting Street Gangs!

[@gbm1610]

Greetings from Denmark 🤘

[@fredguzman4606]

Dave solid always been about the business vato good everybody know he good smart vato

[@kevinbrooks1104]

Doc was dirty, Dave was just slipping. How you let your wife send your business, out to " Brothers " he was a frount man. But Doc turned snitch

[@JohnJan1200]

Agree

[@stanleymasterson1135]

The relationship between Dave and his wife is one of the most insane things I've heard. I'd be miles away from that goblin in no time after that BS she pulled. On another note, there seems to only be one true leader in the big clubs right now... Keith "Conan" Richter. That man serves his times, delegates from his cell, and never says shit to the authorities. The only thing I don't like is how he's gone about the blue wave expansion for the Pagans. Letting in too much riff raff, sort of like what the Mongols and Angels did (just look at the trash that make up 81 in Stockton and Bakersfield). They need bikers, not gang banger clowns

[@chazz735]

So nothing?

[@JohnJan1200]

Two questions about Doc. Is he still alive and when WHY?

[@Ashley-z9b6q]

They should have kicked out doc as soon as he failed...because it showed his true colors...

[@GW4PCITY]

I thought ur next video was gonna be you exposing George further??

[@danielsanchez6095]

Idk about the Kelly’s incident shoot the paper work. Im hella curious.

[@SteveDoe-e7v]

I don't. Even like little dave at all but obviously doc was sa thousand times worse for the club

[@Nordicwave73]

Doc !

[@ChristianJuenger]

I personally like the mongols but i feel like alot off brothers are leaving it or getting kicked out bad maybe im wrong but from what i see on the media an internet thats what it looks like, but on the other hand they're making there presents known in more states so they have to be doing something right....

[@andrewmesch540]

81 has for 5 decades proven to be #1. Ask a Mongol ,

[@BIGBOY_1312]

CHECK THE SCORE YOURE WRONG!

[@mikevega75]

​@@BIGBOY_1312 The Mongols growth in numbers has come at the cost of its standards, welcoming L.A gang members, drug users, child molesters, and even guys without motorcycles. It used to be about quality, not quantity-what happened?... Prove me wrong I'll wait ..

[@capos5240]

We all know they gave up that #1 when they caved in and couldn’t get the Mongols to stop wearing the California rocker. ask a Angel.

[@sdoe-l8t]

Not really in southern CA. Never see HA. Its all Vagos and Mongols

[@GTGibbs]

Back again.

[@ayoNan2311]

HOWS TF IS A RAT WORSER THEN DAVE. that’s crazyyyyy work bro. Talk about hating a mf

[@dougperrien347]

Really. Obviously Doc. Homie sure got it in the Feds, from JP of SF calling him out in front of the south siders. Homie this is all old news. Plus I would tread lightly on calling out certain clicks name. Just saying.

[@Ryan__________________________]

25:54 what And He acts like he didn’t snitch all on the internet

[@thoughtlessent]

Why is there so many cuts. It's a little annoying

[@josiahdeck8509]

This cornball ish. Why are u making motor cycle clubs your only content. It’s clear u like ,Angels more. Plus why u talking about all these guys like u are a meme we your self. Plus bro Dave just joined the club when this happened.

[@bigred183]

I follow a lot of 1 percent club pages on Facebook and Instagram. Saw recently on a mongols page some old members in pix which was pretty cool. Rodger in a few and even that dude Red dog. Think was mongols coast page or some shit. It's cool to see old school around.

[@Cadaver-xg1qy]

Which one was the rat, coward, and liar?

[@JohnJan1200]

Definitely Doc!

[@Henry-wv9gl]

Who the worst for all one presenters bike clubs is drop outs from other organization gangs cant be two things loyal to two crews. And if pulling from pc yards you inherit their problems

[@timothykyllonen9628]

Comment for the algorithm

[@SYLMDAYDAY]

WHY DONT U STICK THE THE CHICKENHEADS

[@thomaswilliford385]

All I will say...when you bring inguys and were warned dont then are .ade to pay...you think your safe from those people. Surprise he handed stuff over. But who owned the rights to the patch and club name...still looks like the club owns it...fact on the other guy...didnt his ol catch cheating..how...who told her..they were fighting..plus he was on substances..and in a ooohhh lil incident....he put himself there...but lets put this right...not by narratives...meth and pilled up and on a xouple day binge...yeah...crashing your shit...but ither stuff was happening..no need...but...he said shit way stupid and high and way wrong...but she set it up before recording..she was pissed and was going to teach him a lesson...why do u think she sent to certain guys....his 4 known enemies against him also those wanting new direction...not hard to figure...worst part....before you go way way deeper...this story you keep talking about the set up Dave did. Does that shit sound familiar. Vagos Victorville..Charles Falco....set up those guys there...fucked up part how do I know...all I will say talk to Pee Wee about a cat named Monster from Indiana exI 81 nomad Illinois

[@HAMMER_2.2]

Monster ?? He is a fb friend and a solid dude. I support him and I support Green 🟩 Nation too. -HAMMER. "F*ck Falco"

[@BIGFOOT615]

U see this?

[@deerafael2063]

Lol. A basic lawyer would of won. 1a.

[@LegalTyranny]

I don't know. Feds are swine. The FDA trademarked/copyrighted the word "organic" so they can go after any one labeling foods with that if they don't grow within certain guidelines. The sketchiest part is that they allow certain classes of pesticides to be used on the foods still. And most people think "organic" is chemical free, meanwhile the federal statutory code on that "organic" title spells out the chemicals they allow. I could totally see the feds unlawfully leveraging any thing they can, as long as they can, if the public or targeted victims can't put up a legal fight or cause enough noise in the court of public opinion. If you're inclined to reading and research have a look at the statutory history on "public vehicular travel as a matter of right on the public highways". Then think about how much money and power the feds and state have by ignoring what's spelled out repeatedly over decades in statutes across all 50 states.

[@V8Deuce]

What is this nonsense? Its nothing that we can't get online and make a video of our own. You have absolutely nothing new to say here. Old news, lets move on .....

[@anthonyaguilar8883]

This is I wish I was an outlaw biker podcast lol

[@V8Deuce]

@@anthonyaguilar8883 BINGO !

[@javiervalenzuela4369]

This is old news

[@fredguzman4606]

😂😂😂

[@The1whoStrives]

Do you think it was racial between Doc and Lil Dave doing Roger like that ? Since their Hispanic and he's white ?

[@guappoppi5k998]

Racial? No. Political? YES!!

[@KernowekTim]

Politics/Power/Intense mutual mis-trust, but never racial, imo.

[@Bryan-zm6jp]

What song is this in the background

[@VegasProfileStories]

It’s called Devils Song By Lance Moore

[@Bryan-zm6jp]

@@VegasProfileStories thanks bro. Love your channel. I watched the videos you did on Ray Ray. I worked with him back in 2016. Didn’t know who he was at the time then I watched a documentary on the river run riot and was like I fucking worked with that dude. lol.

[@Bryan-zm6jp]

Is that the song in the beginning of this video though?

[@VegasProfileStories]

@ no that’s an original song

[@GideonWalker-e2u]

You talk but I didn’t see you anywhere at anything