Who Wins the 2021 Vezina Trophy?

[@knighttimestorieslv]

As a Vegas resident, the vibe I get on Fleury around here is that he's shoe-in for mayor if he ever wants it.

[@bigeddymachete]

He’s probably going back to Pittsburgh but if not I could definitely see him and his family living in Vegas and him working apart of the Vegas organization in some sort of management roll

[@thespot7199]

Flower for mayor!!

[@name-vi6fs]

@@bigeddymachete you don't think he goes back to Quebec? Especially if the Canadians or a future QC team was looking for a coach or analyst?

[@bigeddymachete]

@@name-vi6fs well I mean first their has to be a Quebec team

[@bigeddymachete]

I’m talking about now plus the nhl wouldn’t want to want to bring back an nhl team that failed Quebec won’t come back to the NHL for a while

[@lvkid7]

Two of Fleury's four losses were 1-0 and 2-0 (and that one was only 2-0 because of an empty net goal with 5 seconds left) so he's actually 12-2 when his team scores at least 1 goal

[@guts5627]

Vasi still better tho

[@jamieseidler724]

Thank you for adding to the conversation !! Hopefully Flower Power will continue through the season.

[@AlphaDog0303]

I’m hoping Fleury gets the Vezina this year. He’s been a star for Vegas. I’m surprised he hasn’t won it at all 🌸

[@joemartinez8105]

If anyone deserves it, it's Fleury.

[@dmac26official]

I think that Flower should take it, at this point. Dudes been an absolute STUD! But time will tell, if he can keep this up.

[@itzmrbeau6386]

If he stays at current pace he should 110% get it but who knows if he can or if Lehner will come back and start shaking the boat by playing super well I think this year might be Flower’s year though gets the Vezina and maybe even his 4th cup

[@kevinbrown7326]

How about if he goes back to Pitt, how would you like that ?flower is stud nah ....its never been a thing

[@levbejar3407]

@@kevinbrown7326 bro wtf lmfao chill

[@RIPJimmyA7X]

Man I would definitely put Grubauer on this list

[@Mineav]

Between Vasilevskiy, Varlamov, Shesterkin, Bobrovski and potentially a couple other goalies in the NHL, the Russian goaltending depth is looking scary good.

[@im_sorry_i_forgot_my_username]

Fleury has to get it this year. He deserves to finally win one before he hangs them up.

[@sean1849]

If he deserved to win one then he would have won one.

[@stardivarius5496]

@@sean1849 he deserves it this year 🤷‍♂️

[@thanewage403]

The stats will speak for themselves. It’s close, Flower is in a short lead I’m my opinion.

[@teapea8184]

@@stardivarius5496 So far, the season still ain't even half done yet.

[@andrewjmschroeder]

He'll get it if he earns it. Being near the end of his career shouldn't change the situation.

[@iCoolaxe]

Vasy is definitely the frontrunner, with Fleury being a pretty close second.

[@brofessorscales1593]

Flower for sure. But as an Oilers fan I'd LOVE to see Mike Smith as a finalist

[@nickstrelic9422]

Nice to see future vezina winner Thatcher Demko on the list!

[@Lucasfrm315]

I would love that, I remember watching him play in the AHL with Utica

[@Membarock]

The light coming through the window makes the gold in your jersey sparkle and I am absolutely here for it.

[@arjei2367]

its surreal to me that Minnesota has players in these videos. Its crazy that we have nice things.

[@mahockey3]

The fact that Fleury doesn't have a Vezina trophy yet is appalling to me

[@alexrowdyrodrigues9716]

It's a crime against hockey

[@Atlievan]

He’s never had a Vezina type season in his career. His best year before this one was 2017-18 but he only played 46 games

[@alexrowdyrodrigues9716]

@@Atlievan Times are different now. If Fleury was in his prime and starting in 65+ games and still keeping his sv% at .915 or above he'd win the Vezina every year. Around the time he was playing he still had to contend with prime Brodeur, Prime Miller and Prime Lundqvist just to name a few when the Pens were competitive but still kinda average after 09. Fleury will probably be one of the best if not the best goalie of his era when he is done. So why not add that last missing trophy into his already huge trophy case

[@Atlievan]

@@alexrowdyrodrigues9716 In Fluery’s career he’s 37th in save percentage all time 53rd in goals against average all time 54th in goals saved above average all time 74th in goals allowed adjusted all time 73rd in adjusted goals against average all time Luongo, Miller, Rinne, Lundqvist are all better than Fleury. Fleury before coming to Vegas was nothing more than an above average goalie that played on a really good penguins team.

[@alexrowdyrodrigues9716]

@@Atlievan the disrespect bro.

[@Christhegreatbro]

“You sure you don’t want Brobo?” I choked when I heard that because it’s so true

[@dbgaming274]

*click*

[@mthees08]

You know what, even as an Islanders fan, I'm pulling for Fleury here.

[@patward8542]

I love that Lankinen is playing so well. I don’t think he will get the Vezina but he has an outside chance at the Calder imo

[@alyssahebert5602]

I like goaltender as well, I am aquling working on an article on Carey Price. The article is called “2014-2015 Carey Price vs 2020-2021 Carey Price.”

[@lg3988]

Uh I'd love to read that!

[@ilai7893]

Great to see the Demko shoutout, and agreed with the fact that (at least for now) he's putting the fears about Vancouver's goalie issues to rest. 4-0-0 with GAA of 1 is nothing to sneeze at.

[@InsignificantNick]

Vasy will probably end his career with at least 5 Vezina trophies.

[@looper451]

Thats a huge over estimate lmao. Theres a tonne of seriously good young goalies. You’re telling me in a league with Hellebyuck, Demko, Blackwood, Khakonen, Ullmark, Peterson, Gibson, Samsonov, Shesterkin, Korpisalo, Hart, Askarov, and Knight; Vasy will have 5 Vezinas? No way man. All of those goalies l listed have Vezina potential, there is a huge crop of goalies ready to take the league by storm in the next 2-5 years

[@nuck97]

I feel that Demko is definitely going to be a part of the conversation, if not this year, then certainly in the future.

[@BS-jn9kh]

Mad respect to Mike Smith for not only reviving his NHL career but also continuing to prepare for his career after hockey as a top nodge actor.

[@spottyhead]

That opening monologue of goalies being nuts is part of the reason The Hockey Guy keeps me coming back.

[@trentburkhart3917]

I want Vasy to win of course, I'm a Tampa fan, but I wouldn't be upset at all if Fleury takes it. He deserves one and its crazy that he hasn't got one yet.

[@893263007]

Grubauer has 91.7% in 19 games. Should probably be listed.

[@RIPJimmyA7X]

Ya I don't think he wins but man how is he not on the list?

[@jonasgorea3823]

I would have to imagine vasilevskiy

[@hassam363]

I think having such a strong defense in front of him is going to hurt his chances.

[@Brandon-qd2lb]

@@hassam363 what??? The defense is alright lol. Trust me they don't even try that hard and vasy has to do most of the work and it gets really annoying. Everyone is just slow or out of place. Only hedman consistently knows what he's doing out there.

[@sean1849]

@@hassam363 That is a ridiculous statement.

[@ACundill]

@@hassam363 the strong defense argument can be made for Fluery and Varlamov if you want to blame that for Vasy’s success as well

[@nathanzettergren7832]

@@hassam363 he has already won with great defence before so I don’t think that’ll stop him from winning

[@Noodleneff]

I’d watch a 70min video of yours. Thanks for all you do and the knowledge you bring!

[@daledemanchuk7920]

it sometimes proves the best deal made is the one the wasnt...where would vegas be right now without Flower?

[@garfnielsen4448]

Great video shannon, you should do a video on vladislav tretiak for people who don't know how good he was

[@hotdogwater7037]

greatest goalie of all-time.

[@JP_HKY_777]

What about Blackwood, Grubauer, Riemer, and Khudobin?? I mean the list can just go on and on...

[@MeteoraLP77]

How the shit is Grubauer not on this list? You think Mike Smith or Bob is ahead of him? Or several others on this list ?

[@crazynova23]

InGoal magazine did an article about this using proprietary data from Clear Sight Analytics. Apparently several NHL clubs use their data, as it appears to be most comprehensive, tracking 32 metrics on every shot to determine quality and likelihood of scoring. Anyway, CSA stats have Fluery as a clear front runner with Vasy in second.

[@midimusicforever]

It's Fleury vs Vasi so far, but there's a lot of season left to play!

[@kaitlinmassee1311]

Snubbing Grub on this vid, what’s up with that Shannon!?

[@kevinbrown7326]

It up for grabs , many goal tenders are playing well, except for a few markets

[@trismaster]

I’m down for renaming LAS to Marc-Andre Fleury International Airport. #MAFIA

[@liampett1313]

Carter Hutton! No but really can we admire how well the Sabres goaltending has been with the lack of a team in front of them. Some of these games should be 9-2...

[@dennybarlau8065]

Kappa from MN has 1.42 goals against 1 shut out 947 save percentage And 7 wins in The last 2 weeks

[@Kattishion]

The posts. They've done a great job of keeping pucks from going in the net in every game I've watched.

[@JP_HKY_777]

I love goalie, I might be crazy but it’s so fun to play!

[@Rthomp02]

As a supporter of Minnesota wild I get to watch a lot of hockey out west. And I must say I get quite nervous every time that Minnesota plays Las Vegas, because I know who’s lurking in net. He’s always a wildcard when you play him because you never know if he’s gunna pull of some crazy saves to steal the game.

[@firepaulmauricealready8452]

Apparently, Connor Hellebuyck watched this video before his performance against Toronto tonight. lol

[@Wayf4rer]

Biased obviously, but of the goalies who have played a lot of games Vasilevskiy is head and shoulders above all other goalies in all of the advanced metrics.

[@dmac26official]

I've said it so many times. Vassy is hands down the best goalie in the NHL. And its because he's not a flashy goalie that makes a ton of highlight reel saves. He's the Gretzky of the net. He just has such an absurd IQ in the net. And is flawlessly positioned.

[@Zaghzackio]

And hes only 26 which as Shannon said is very young for a goaltender. Hes probably going to be the best goalie of the 2020s

[@dmac26official]

@@Zaghzackio absolutely. Probably going to win a FEW cups.

[@LucidTurtle]

@@dmac26official I agree I became a big fan of him after drafting him many years in a row in my fantasy league, he is just an unbelievable player with his iq, movement, lack of any weak spots, he bounces back from any rough spell with crazy stats, he's arms and legs better than every other goalie

[@lg3988]

@@dmac26official i get the comment but you have to admit he makes highlight reel saves. Those are flashy. But they are desperation saves more or less. He isn't purposely flashy which doesn't result in soft goals. He plays it calm and easy but gets flashy when he has to

[@elmermuff2150]

After what happened last year I HOPE FLOWER POWER WINS! He seems like a GR8 PERSON🖒 A LOT of guy's standing on their head thus year👌

[@romaliop]

If anyone is interested, I ran a quick OLS regression on save%~points% with the guys on the list. It should get rid of some of the effect a winning team has on the individual save percentage. Anyhow, ordered from best to worst (highest to lowest residual), I got: 1. Fleury (0.0179) 2. Vasilevsky (0.0098) 3. Demko (0.0087) 4. Kuemper (0.0049) 5. Varlamov (0.0045) 6. Kahkonen (0.0013) 7. Lankinen (0.0005) 8. Driedger (0.0003) 9. Smith (-0.0018) 10. Markstrom (-0.0039) 11. Hellebuyck (-0.0048) 12. Price (-0.0125) 13. Bobrovsky (-0.0250)

[@ben_1999]

Love your cats in the background, especially the black one. What're their names? I dont remember seeing a name dropped anywhere for them.

[@chrismiller7754]

Calico cat is Bear, black cat is Shadow!

[@ben_1999]

@@chrismiller7754 Bear is a great name for such a unit of a cat

[@robertfelton8374]

There is a black and white cat named Pixel, but she's not present.

[@ben_1999]

@@robertfelton8374 i saw her in another video! Thank you for the names 😁

[@swedreamhack5308]

Vasi is the best goaltender and especially so far this season. He's from the future and semi robotic. Lock in for me.

[@dbgaming274]

If Price was on a team like Tampa or Vegas, he would be the best goalie in the league for a very long time. The fact the players think he’s the best and he has played for the Canadiens mediocre teams for years is a testament of how good he really is.

[@alexrowdyrodrigues9716]

It has to be Flower. A man of his stature and accolades in his professional career who has not won at least one league best goalie award? Preposterous!!! And not to mention Flower is 36 and he is still performing at such a high level! Hasek won his last Vezina at 36, Tim Thomas won his last Vezina at 36, Rinne won his when he was 35 going on to 36. Amazing goalies have a habit of winning the Vezina at that age. Fleury will be the next one for sure.

[@37willdog]

It’s a two-man race between Vasy and Fleury. I don’t see how anyone gets close to them at this point

[@erickeogh1140]

can you make a video about this new espn deal and what it means for canadian broadcasting

[@GoodMenstruationAttitude]

Bobrovsky has the edge in high danger save pct, I'm not a huge advanced stat guy but this one seems more significant than any other goalie stats, unless you went with a holistic Wins approach. He also has more HD shots against. I have only watched a single Panthers game this season but it might indicate the team plays more conservative defense for Driedger.

[@practicalguy973]

I don't track advanced stats but I heard the announcers say a few weeks ago during the Canucks game that Demko has faced the most high danger chances of any goalie this year. I do think that Bob and other goalies on less defensive teams are better than their numbers show. I think Driedger got some easier games over Bob also but I think it was due to the teams being played rather than Panthers playing different defensively.

[@AndrewDorsey27]

I feel like John Gibson should be in the perennial conversation too, but him being in Anaheim hurts. Also, Florida is going to have an interesting situation in net in the next year or two with Bobs terrible contract, Driedger being the better of the two, and they have Spencer Knight coming into the league soon

[@erikjohnson3434]

Saw Lessard play in early 70's for IHL in Saginaw. Go Gears!!!

[@derekbury7262]

I met Mario Lassard at a UNB Hockey School in 1980

[@veritasinvicta8128]

Varlamov looked outstanding against Boston tonight!

[@KeyserSoze-1995]

Was really hoping after the great start to the season Ullman had that he could've at least been in the conversation. Sad to see his injury took him out of it and doesn't have a decent enough team in front of him to help.

[@william_1712]

Petr Mrazek wins it for me. 2 shutouts in 3 games and a .954 save percentage. If only he hadn’t gotten injured!

[@dealy9268]

Again no love for the Canes! Reimer GP- 15 W- 12 L-3 GAA 2,71 SP- .908 Alex Nedeljkovic GP-9 W- 9 L- 2 OTL- 1 GAA- 2.08 SP- .929

[@haidoronalds9608]

If Winnipeg could get some better defence, Helle’s numbers would look so much better. He’s left out to dry by the defence so many times, I’m surprised he’s not smashing his stick after every game

[@camwill21]

Martin Jones clearly gets my vote

[@doaftheloaf]

send jones and vlasic to the sabres for skinner, hutton, mittelstadt, and peterka. both teams retain salaries on skinner and vlasic, makes each easier to trade later if need be. make it so that the salary is equal going to each team in the deal.

[@averymerlo4499]

I'm personally leaning towards Dubnyk, but they are the clear frontrunners imo.

[@galifianakis2808]

@@averymerlo4499 i myself pick ilya bryzgalov i think hes gonna get it pretty easily.

[@jayscott1380]

Haha

[@averymerlo4499]

@@galifianakis2808 I understand why you like him. That 0.00 GAA is incredible. I will say his 0.00 Save Percentage in defiantly something I would be concerned about. If he can bring that save percentage up just a little bit I think it would be his trophy to lose.

[@Matthew-FG6]

This makes me wonder how many of these goalies were available for Buffalo to sign/draft/trade for.

[@wildwilie]

Well to be fair Price's last three games have been very good. It is a false hope of an upward trend? We don't know. Vs Ott 963/ VS WPG 966/ VS Van 966.

[@tiger5869]

I think the Panthers are gonna get a lot of calls over Driedger leading up to the expansion draft. Imagine if they won the cup and then without being able to replace him with any similar goaltending options they missed the playoffs next year.

[@jobeaudoin10]

What about the Norris, Hedman and Petry are for me the only legitimate mid season candidate. Hedman 5G 19A 24P +9 and Petry 9G 14A 23P +15. Who do you choose?? Taking a minus player for the Norris would be a disgrace to me because the Trophy is for the best overall defensemen and not the most offensive..

[@davidmorris6254]

I respect a man with Ken Wregget on his wall.

[@jasonandrews7030]

Freddie Andersen, GOAT. Why won't you do more Leafs content? ##LEAFSCUP2021

[@bobkloth57]

I agree. Goaltenders have to be a little crazy to play goalie.

[@kyleames5792]

Fleury is grabbing the bull by the horn.. or pulling the sword from the chest.. 🤣 jokes aside though, Fleury is playing out of his mind right now, I would love to see him win a Vezina.. I miss him in Pittsburgh..

[@Nikkerman]

Who I think should win it: varlomov because with all that scoring talent in the east for him to be doing what he does is amazing. Who I want to win it: Flower would be an amazing story and I've always liked the guy even when he was on my hated rival in Pittsburgh, so to see him win it in Vegas it would be even sweeter

[@Krokodilius]

it's marc's year! while we're talking about goalie stuff: osgood shoulda got the 08 conn smythe but because he wasn't a "name" they screwed.

[@edwardofgreene]

Im holding out for a 4 cat video.

[@PhillyNation06]

NHL is now on ESPN.

[@rockstartrev]

If it don't go to Fleury it's all Varly, provided he stays hot and has a solid defense in front

[@KalleLagerlof]

I guarantee Grubauer will be nominated. He's an absolute beast at the moment

[@pyrielrising4338]

The Vezina is Vasilevskiy's to lose and deservedly so the only thing that I would like to see is Varlamov stay in the conversation, he deserves the recognition for his last 2 years of work. Considering how Roy destroyed this guy in Colorado his redemption has been incredible, Roy should never see a head coaching spot ever again.

[@michaelmazzarella72]

Gotta be tough on Montreal and Florida fans to see neither Price or Bobro in the conversation considering the money they’re being paid

[@jakegoldman1343]

He may not have the best Win-Loss record, but I feel like Igor Shesterkin should of at least been mentioned. He has a save percentage above .920%

[@dmonsef]

You should still list GAA for every goalie. SV% is only a partial indicator of how good a goalie is.

[@TheHockeyGuy]

GAA is more outdated than Seinfeld.

[@adamscoggins4305]

No mention of Blackwood......

[@lordbraunschweiger7814]

Flower and it's not even close (I am a biased Vegas fan)

[@MrSandman730]

Philipp Grubauer should be on the board

[@pascalplenge1882]

Oh yes indeed.

[@gilgalad6231]

Pekka Rinne is too good right now. He’ll win. Actually in a serious note, he actually is having a good season considering how the team in front of him is playing. Not Vezina level but... As always, Lets go Preds!

[@pancyclosis]

1:00 Ilya Bryzgalov for the Model Goaltending Mentality Award

[@Yognaughto]

would love to see a 2 for 1 calder & vezina winner this year

[@speedyv6247]

like Vanacek?

[@fatkidinc.3058]

@@speedyv6247 it would probably be kahkonen

[@speedyv6247]

@@fatkidinc.3058 idk Vanacek looks more in tune to me.

[@speedyv6247]

@@fatkidinc.3058 but still 30 games to go right

[@juhomantynen4638]

Kähkönen is on par with Varlamov in terms of stats as a rookie. Either Fleury or Vasy will probably win it, but I'd sure love to see them fall off a bit and Kähkönen to improve just so he could get the double.

[@Ghostronica]

He isn't wrong about how beloved MAF is in Vegas. A statue outside T-Mobile is deserved imo

[@mitcharmstrong8327]

marc-andre at the moment i reckon

[@Reefer808]

Should the flyers trade carter hart ? 🤔

[@QuietExplorations]

What about Martin Jones?

[@jordannovak2268]

I know people will be wanting Fleury to win, but Vasy is soooo good, and I think, he'll win.

[@shanielcabral]

Would love to see Fleury win a Vezina

[@bigpinero]

Hate to play the homer here but you know hockey well enough to know Price has been getting shitty defensive play for years (lots of 2 on 1s, scoring chances) from his team so not sure I agree about him being a middling option at G for years. With that being said this year he's just not cutting it.

[@TheHockeyGuy]

The problem is, his numbers this year are below Allen's. Every year I make a video on him playing poorly. Yes, he turns it around, but every year he has at least a month where he isn't very good.

[@serfindukdb1776]

Geez Shannon... working OT today, eh?

[@jakedoe275]

He always does 👍 great content and lots of it each day👍

[@sniperlauncher388]

Imagine Seattle takes price goes to the finals and win

[@dmonsef]

I think it's still to early to determine the 3 finalists.

[@DKingsy]

I think its pretty obvious Vasi is gonna win it this year unless an abysmal second half sinks him. I'm just super glad Helle grabbed his last year cause if Vasi plays this way for the next 10 years it'll be difficult to beat him any year lmao.

[@Shokon]

I would be in favor of Demko for Vezina, if and only if they say it as “Thatcher Demko, who is from San Diego and played hockey with Alex Tuch at Boston College” on the trophy and award show.

[@imcarolean]

Unless Flower slumps hard I think he gets it. Wouldn't suprise me if Vasy wins it though

[@ItsAlpacaMan]

Goalie most important position in sports

[@michaelkerber3337]

Mike smith vs Fluery for Vezina

[@bradcrawford5314]

1) Fleury 2) Vasilevskiy 3) Varlamov