10 Doctor Who Questions That Always Confused You

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@Lordoftheapes79
@Lordoftheapes79 2 жыл бұрын
Lets be honest. The Curator was the makers wanting to see Baker on screen one last time before he kicks it. Even if it makes no sense in the lore, hearing that voice gave me chills and seeing him made me smile.
@SirenPandaSabo
@SirenPandaSabo 2 жыл бұрын
Who nose? :3
@randomnessltd
@randomnessltd Жыл бұрын
Even I wanted to see Baker a last time after watching all the Fourth Doctor episodes on DVD.
@philDAsull
@philDAsull Жыл бұрын
Actually the curator is cannon in the lore at the end of the regeneration cycle he got to choose an old face and that's the one he chose and became a curator I pretty sure shadda is the book and think it was written by Douglas Addams
@igorschmidlapp6987
@igorschmidlapp6987 Жыл бұрын
I want to see Tom Baker and Lalla Ward as the 4th Doctor and Romana II together again, since they slept together, got married, then divorced. So many juicy lines to be written there... ;-P
@MarvelX42
@MarvelX42 2 жыл бұрын
The Master (if we can believe him, which we almost certainly can't) said that "The Valyard is an amalgamation of the darker sides of your nature, somewhere between your 12th and FINAL incarnation." NOT his 12th and 13th incarnation 12th and FINAL incarnation. That means anytime after 12 but before the last incarnation. How many incarnations the Doctor has after 12 is anyones guess at this point. Maybe this time he was telling the truth. What better way to hide lies than to bury them somewhere in the middle of abunch of truths?
@danthemeegs8751
@danthemeegs8751 2 жыл бұрын
The Amy and Rory thing is something that I'm very aware is questionable, but the emotion of their departure is so powerful that I can forgive it :'(
@kissmy_butt1302
@kissmy_butt1302 2 жыл бұрын
The problem with the end of Amy and Rory it pretty much rewrote Blink. That is my only problem with the Weeping Angels. Moffat made them scarier, confusing and ambiguous over time.
@NickPiers
@NickPiers 2 жыл бұрын
We already know The Doctor's name. Turns out we've mispronounced it for decades. We'll all look very silly when we learn it's Doctor Hugh.
@aymentagelsir1387
@aymentagelsir1387 2 жыл бұрын
What episode do they reveal the doctors name
@NickPiers
@NickPiers 2 жыл бұрын
@@aymentagelsir1387 They don't. It's never been revealed. Not even The Name of the Doctor.
@aymentagelsir1387
@aymentagelsir1387 2 жыл бұрын
@@NickPiers oh right I misread ur comment I thought it said " we all looked very silly when we learned it's doctor Hugh"
@rabsputin
@rabsputin 2 жыл бұрын
It's very obviously Gregory House.
@daverhoden445
@daverhoden445 2 жыл бұрын
This joke will be revived if Hugh Laurie ever plays The Doctor. Though I think it would be just as funny if he played A doctor so we could have Doctor Hugh on Doctor Who. Even better if they do this in a episode with Georgia Tennent returning as Hugh's wife. The Doctor's Daughter would be Doctor Hugh's wife. (I might have taken too much cold medication) 😆
@TheMsLourdes
@TheMsLourdes 2 жыл бұрын
The Curator's identity was that confusing??? I thought it was rather obvious... especially when the room all three tardises are lined up in, is itself inside a Tardis, mounted at the door frame.. I mean.. the 'art' on the walls was a dead giveaway.. Tom Baker coming out was the most flagrantly obvious and lovely gorgeous and thrilling moment of the episode(s). ...oh and then there was the dialogue that said it straight up, so... I mean, reallly? Were that many people not paying attention? Who... knows...
@andrewmurray1550
@andrewmurray1550 2 жыл бұрын
and he's the one that points out to...."himself" that the painting title is "Galifrey Falls No More", not two titles like everyone else is confused about "Galifrey Falls" or "No More".
@rileyackison4495
@rileyackison4495 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I always thought it was EXTREMELY obvious that it’s just the doctor “visiting old faces.”
@henrikhanssen6321
@henrikhanssen6321 Жыл бұрын
Watching this in the cinema was amazing. The reaction to Baker’s voice felt like electricity going through the audience.
@sneakycrown
@sneakycrown 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, but this video just feels... disrespectful. Its presented in a way of "just shut up and accept the show as it is, plot holes and all!" The amount of times I heard "doctor who fans think too linear", "sadly, doctor who fans do this..." instead of "the writers didn't do their homework" is unacceptable. It is NOT on the fans. It is on the WRITERS.
@Wizecrack22
@Wizecrack22 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree, it’s very condescending
@Jasonsmith-xs8vq
@Jasonsmith-xs8vq 2 жыл бұрын
100% agree. Excusing this bad writing makes her part of the problem not part of the solution. Also not a fan of her telling people that they just didn’t listen and the answers were right in front of them, it’s disrespectful. She might as well just say you’re dumb and I’m more intelligent than you. Reminds me of one of the current batch of self righteous students the country is producing and she probably is. Another one to be add to my ban list
@jamiecairns9111
@jamiecairns9111 2 жыл бұрын
Was looking for this comment
@Deltaflot1701
@Deltaflot1701 2 жыл бұрын
I've just chalked up the whole Timeless Child things as a plot by The Master to confuse The Doctor long enough to bring his nefarious plans to fruition. At least that's my hope of what RTD does when he starts running the show again, properly. As for the timing issue with UNIT stories, I always went with those stories being in the 1980's. The Brigadier always referred to the PM as Ma'am (mum) in those stories and Maggie Thatcher was almost an entirely 80's PM.
@doctormew9399
@doctormew9399 2 жыл бұрын
Nop, Tecteun confirmed it.
@bobyerickgaming5435
@bobyerickgaming5435 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the master being the timeless child would have been better. It'd explain the master's general craziness and reason for not staying dead
@Deltaflot1701
@Deltaflot1701 2 жыл бұрын
@@doctormew9399 as we’ve seen in old and new Who. Time can be rewritten.
@selena8472
@selena8472 2 жыл бұрын
@Deltflot1701 or it's just chibnil being a lousy writer how's that sound??
@Deltaflot1701
@Deltaflot1701 2 жыл бұрын
@@selena8472 I wouldn’t say he’s a lousy writer, he’s had some good stories during the Moffet era, but his choice of scripts as a showrunner was lousy.
@kadosho02
@kadosho02 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent coverage of so many fascinating stories, and questions within this vast series. No matter what generation / or regeneration of the Doctor you connect with, there are so many adventures to go on. "Day of the Doctor" is my utmost favorite special. That moment of the Doctor meeting an unforgettable, classic familiar face, wit, and charm. It is definitely a moment to treasure forever.
@GrumpusTheCat
@GrumpusTheCat 2 жыл бұрын
The reason regeneration exists as it does in the Doctor Who universe is because of William Hartnell‘s excitement for the role, and then subsequent health issues leading to a replacement. William Hartnell will always be the first Doctor No matter what the clowns at the bbc say.
@selena8472
@selena8472 2 жыл бұрын
@Calvin Gwizdala actually the Second is more of the cause than the first. they wanted to continue to do Doctor who but saw they would need to do it without Hartnell, so regeneration was created
@GrumpusTheCat
@GrumpusTheCat 2 жыл бұрын
@@selena8472yes exactly lol - William Hartnell is the reason regeneration exists as it does in the doctor who universe
@lunakingsley.7247
@lunakingsley.7247 2 жыл бұрын
Except classic doctor flat out stated that he wasn't the first. I guess none of you are actually fans.
@GrumpusTheCat
@GrumpusTheCat 2 жыл бұрын
@@lunakingsley.7247 I guess you are just a retard and didn’t read my actual comment
@daverhoden445
@daverhoden445 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe he's just the first Doctor to visit Earth.
@mcurran6505
@mcurran6505 2 жыл бұрын
The Timeless Child is pretty much the episode that destroyed all the mysteries that make the Doctor... Well the Doctor. On the bright side with Russell T Davies returning maybe he might undo all the mistakes Chris Chibnall have done.
@Thatonebioshockfan
@Thatonebioshockfan 2 жыл бұрын
I hope.
@itsalexney
@itsalexney 2 жыл бұрын
He won’t. He said he liked the timeless child story.
@Thatonebioshockfan
@Thatonebioshockfan 2 жыл бұрын
@@itsalexney what if he's lying?
@mountainneko
@mountainneko 2 жыл бұрын
Here's hoping that the Next Doctor starts out in a shower scene, with Peter Capaldi's Doctor stepping out of the shower and all this Chibnall crap was nothing more than a dream, no nightmare. . .don't get me wrong, I like Jody, but the Chibnall storyline pretty much destroyed most of the Doctor's Canon. . .
@aymentagelsir1387
@aymentagelsir1387 2 жыл бұрын
@@itsalexney quite the opposite actually he said he didn't like it and it shouldn't even be cannon
@thelethiferousmoose
@thelethiferousmoose 2 жыл бұрын
Your Jo Martin explanation doesn't explain why the TARDIS would be a police box, that didn't happen until after First Doctor arrived on Earth in the 1960s... 😜
@william...1
@william...1 2 жыл бұрын
the tardis is sentinet, she just likes being a police box 🤷‍♀️
@thelethiferousmoose
@thelethiferousmoose 2 жыл бұрын
@@william...1 kind of lazy answer lol. You could make any number of arguments to explain it. Also we don't even know it's the same TARDIS, the first doctor took his from a repair bay. It would have been better if they just didn't try to be clever about it.
@kevin10001
@kevin10001 2 жыл бұрын
We never really know that the doctor left gallifrey looking like William Hartnell it was only implied that’s what happened cause of Clara jumping into the doctor’s timeline effectively becoming his guardian and telling William Hartnell to take a certain tardis but we never really know until that modern era retcon of that event that the doctor had already become William Hartnell but we don’t really know that for sure cause explanation of backstory wasn’t really done in the show in the 60’s and regeneration wasn’t a thing until William Hartnell got to where he couldn’t handle doing the show anymore due to his declining health where Cerebrovascular disease and heart failure would take him on April 23rd 1975
@william...1
@william...1 2 жыл бұрын
@@thelethiferousmoose idc if it’s a lazy answer, i’m not the writer lol
@eshbena
@eshbena 2 жыл бұрын
@@thelethiferousmoose What if the TARDIS had always been a police box and rechose that shape when she stole the Doctor because she hoped that one day they'd remember their shared past together?
@blipus8711
@blipus8711 2 жыл бұрын
Matt Smith will forever be my favourite Doctor
@RaggedyDoctor11
@RaggedyDoctor11 2 жыл бұрын
Amen to that, my mortal friend!
@albo7055
@albo7055 2 жыл бұрын
Completely
@jacobmccarthy770
@jacobmccarthy770 2 жыл бұрын
he's my favorite New Who, but the all-time best will be Tom Baker in my eyes
@blipus8711
@blipus8711 2 жыл бұрын
@@jacobmccarthy770 I feel like Matt is the perfect NuWho equivalent of Tom. He's quirky yet can be dead serious, dresses smartly but interestingly, etc
@danthemeegs8751
@danthemeegs8751 2 жыл бұрын
Mine too!
@mjhopkins76
@mjhopkins76 2 жыл бұрын
The big, lingering question I always had was... who are Susan's parents? She is the Doctor's Grand-daughter, right? So, that would imply that the Doctor had children. So, who are they?
@Nikstar34
@Nikstar34 2 жыл бұрын
Susan's mum could be the doctors daughter that was created from his dna (can't remember the episode, but the actress is married to David tennant(
@daverhoden445
@daverhoden445 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nikstar34 Maybe she married Hugh Laurie while he was on House. Susan's mum could be Mrs. Doctor Hugh.
@arb9010
@arb9010 Жыл бұрын
didn´t the doctor say in early NuWho that he once had many children?
@kenthomas505
@kenthomas505 Жыл бұрын
We'll likely never that, but it would be interesting to see who his wife was and then his children in order for Susan to have been born. But then the question becomes, is the child of a Timelord also automatically a Timelord? So would that make Susan a Timelord herself?
@kristenhanisch8508
@kristenhanisch8508 8 ай бұрын
​@@kenthomas505I've heard it said that the people born on Gallifrey are Gallifreyan, but Time Lord is a rank that does not include every Gallifreyan. Not that I'm at all up to date on the lore, I haven't even seen all the Capaldi episodes of New Who and I've only seen through Jon Pertwee's first season on Classic Who.
@toonartist4038
@toonartist4038 2 жыл бұрын
Techinally if jo was pre-harntell that would make her the youngest doctor ever age wise in the universe’s lore. I still stand by the fact that the master is the timeless child and I swear to god that I hope Russell T Davies does what the fans want, have the master be the timeless child cause that makes more sense in my opinion.
@inky1159
@inky1159 Жыл бұрын
Or they could just throw the whole timeless child bullshit out since it's absolutely stupid and unnecessary
@toonartist4038
@toonartist4038 Жыл бұрын
@@inky1159 yes- that too- could just be like “hey the master just made that up to make the Doctor feel like they aren’t a true member of their race”
@grahamcann1761
@grahamcann1761 2 жыл бұрын
I hate almost all Time Travel Shows, and movies. And yet I deeply love Doctor Who. Why? I started watching the Doctor in the late 60's when I was a young Californian just starting school (1st grade), and I loved it. Thing is anything else I watch with "time travel" I question, I cringe, I object. However, for some reason, I never have this problem with "The Doctor", it's just wibbly-wobbly-timey-whimey good fun! Sure there are mistakes, things that don't make sense, and oh-so many questions, but that's okay - they're the Doctor! As always thank you so very much for the video.
@UKProgRock
@UKProgRock 2 жыл бұрын
The Valeyard is from between the Doctor's 12th and FINAL incarnation... Not 13th.
@joeswift1064
@joeswift1064 2 жыл бұрын
The amount of times this channel justifies Chibnall writing and slates Moffat era always makes me think they’re paid by the BBC
@DF.A.B.L.E.
@DF.A.B.L.E. Жыл бұрын
the host roasting the entire fanbase for disagreeing with them doesn't help either. I usually love what culture's videos but the host reminded me of an obsessive person who insulted anyone who doesn't agree with them
@ness3421
@ness3421 Жыл бұрын
@@DF.A.B.L.E. Right? I feel attacked.
@DF.A.B.L.E.
@DF.A.B.L.E. Жыл бұрын
@@ness3421 same
@NickPiers
@NickPiers 2 жыл бұрын
With The Curator, my headcanon is that actually was the Fourth Doctor. When a Doctor regenerates, their previous incarnation goes somewhere to live out a quiet, peaceful life in retirement, maybe as a human. In the Fourth Doctor's case, he became the curator of that museum. Of course, now I'm wondering where the other incarnations wound up. Ten might become a teacher, like in that 2-parter. Nine...heh, maybe a dance instructor?
@dadofamadhouse4194
@dadofamadhouse4194 2 жыл бұрын
Like that doctor get zapped out as a new one gets zapped in? Interesting theory, if explored right then one could spin it to explain why you sometimes see the doctor 'before' they change into that version, like when we saw capaldi in Pompeii, maybe that was the capaldi version zapped back in time for his 'retirement' life cycle, and of course the memories stay with the current version of the doctor so that capaldi version no longer remembers he was the doctor. But do those 'retired' doctors die at the end of their life span? Cuz we see capaldi again in season 3 of torchwood. Like I said, interesting theory, I'd be down to see an episode touch on that even if they retcon it away.
@NickPiers
@NickPiers 2 жыл бұрын
@@dadofamadhouse4194 Yeah, it's not a perfect theory by any means, I admit. It's just how I like to explain at least The Curator. The idea would need fleshing out and tweaking.
@dadofamadhouse4194
@dadofamadhouse4194 2 жыл бұрын
@@NickPiers it would make for an interesting story to read or watch. Ever consider fleshing it out on your own (or with some ppl) like a fan fiction or something and see how people react or add to it? Cuz you've got me interested
@ChrisEllorris
@ChrisEllorris 2 жыл бұрын
@@dadofamadhouse4194 The Capaldie in Pompeii being post Doctor would be weirdly coincidental, though, since the Doctor chose Capaldi's face unconsciously remembering that guy.
@SirenPandaSabo
@SirenPandaSabo 2 жыл бұрын
I smiled just reading this comment. That is sweet if the 4th Doctor became the curator :3
@andrewbowman4611
@andrewbowman4611 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not convinced that the Fugitive Doctor is pre-Hartnell. Despite the assertion in this video, it's neither been confirmed nor denied at this point. Yes, the Fugitive Doctor is working for Division, but it doesn't necessarily equate that this was during the Timeless Child period. Given that the TARDIS is in the shape of a Police Box, and she calls herself the Doctor, the Fugitive can only be from Season 6B. Another more slightly tenuous nod to this is that, while in Gloucester Cathedral, Ruth's phone is at 68%. It may not be intentional, but 68 and 6B look very similar at first glance. Frankly, having her be pre-Hartnell doesn't really make sense - not at the moment, anyway.
@blipus8711
@blipus8711 2 жыл бұрын
There's a new audio/comic story called The Fugitive Doctor with Ruth as the cover. They're doubling down on this poor story point
@thelethiferousmoose
@thelethiferousmoose 2 жыл бұрын
@@blipus8711 if they address the police box, then I'll be happy
@blipus8711
@blipus8711 2 жыл бұрын
@@thelethiferousmoose idk. I saw that originally and thought she was a future doctor, but the interior says older. I think either way, we chalk it up to bad writing
@Kekkersboy
@Kekkersboy 2 жыл бұрын
@@blipus8711 She takes place before. Is it a retcon, sure. But Doctor who's full of retcons, One day it'll be retconned in a different way. When dealing with time travel and retcons, just ignore stuff until it's changed.
@blipus8711
@blipus8711 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kekkersboy that's what I was saying. It's just that the idea is poor as it makes the Doctor a god for no reason
@joelmavity1467
@joelmavity1467 2 жыл бұрын
Three mysteries that bug me: 1. Who are Susan’s parents? 2. What happened to her after Dimensions in Time? Was she involved in the Time War or did she live happily in the post Dalek invasion of earth until her husband died and she regenerated on? And if that’s the case, who is she now? 3. How does the Doctor manage to not run into descendants of companions that are left in the past or left in their original times when going to the future?
@naomilangevin3944
@naomilangevin3944 Жыл бұрын
Oh gosh I'm with you with those. I tried looking up the wiki info on Susan and it was intense. So wild.
@leefr76
@leefr76 11 ай бұрын
Maybe Davros is actually Susan regenerated. How crazy would that be.
@omegatired
@omegatired 2 жыл бұрын
I love that fans are annoyed with the idea of previous to Hartnell's version when in the Mind of Morbius, we were given visual representations of pre-Hartnell versions of the Doctor in the mental challenge they engage in. In fact, Morbius asks the Doctor how many regenerations he has had ... so, having a pre Hartnell Doctor is hardly a surprise.
@eshbena
@eshbena 2 жыл бұрын
Young fans these days, amiright? They want continuity? Please! This show has NEVER had continuity! XD
@scibus4360
@scibus4360 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn't Morbius a Time Lord? Why isn't it possible that those faces are the previous faces of Morbius? They're playing a mind duel that goes back and forth.
@gajacome1
@gajacome1 Жыл бұрын
@@scibus4360 exactly the other faces are Morbius’s he was at the end of his regeneration that’s why you saw a bunch of unknown faces, and only 3 faces for Bakers’s.
@Jamie_D
@Jamie_D Жыл бұрын
With the curator thing, i was more focused on the revisiting old faces part which got me excited for a potential return of David :)
@MagerrHDK
@MagerrHDK 10 ай бұрын
You were right 😊
@shenandoahbell455
@shenandoahbell455 2 жыл бұрын
Urrrm. One thing I love about trek culture is how respectful it is of its fans... Whoculture seems to have an unpleasant habit of attacking fans and name-calling. If I wanted to know that Doctor Who fans are idiots then I'd watch the various 5 hour hate-rants that seem to infest KZbin. Please, keep it light and breezy... Be a bit more Adam Cleary, don't take shit... But don't dish it either x
@Wizecrack22
@Wizecrack22 2 жыл бұрын
I unsubscribed because of how they condescend and insult fans
@stewartbugler
@stewartbugler 2 жыл бұрын
I remember stating that the dreamlord from that episode where Rory and Amy just choose their realities n stuff was a precursor to the Valiard n considering we are on 14 going 15 I will guess that the excess time energy given the Matt Smith. Was inconsequential to his regeneration seeing as the doctor is the timeless child that gave the regeneration in the first place. So all that extra energy could very well of account to 2 versions of the Doctor born at once. ( imagine if Peter Capaldi came back as theValiard)
@dstr001
@dstr001 Жыл бұрын
People arent annoyed with there being previous incarnations, we already knew that could be the case with the Morbius episode; were annoyed that she calls herself the doctor and has a police box tardis, both of which fly in the face of the lore. The 1st doctor was the one who chose that name and the tardis looking like a police box was because the chameleon circuit got damaged when the 1st doctor first landed on Earth.
@cassieanderson3936
@cassieanderson3936 Жыл бұрын
No, people are mad because there *is no Doctor before Hartnell* period. There is no Timeless Child, there is no Fugitive Doctor. She could be a future Doctor, or she's Unbound, but there is no pre-Hartnell Doctor. That's literally blasphemy
@wickideazy
@wickideazy 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely none of these needed explanation, least as far as I'm concerned. They are all things that fans who can actually comprehend the goofy nature of time travel stories do not need explained, because we comprehend them already. The absolute best part of this video is how it utterly roasts every squabbling fan who's not sharp enough to get it.
@elizanix
@elizanix 2 жыл бұрын
Im still super bummed about the Timeless Child. im waiting to see how it all turns out, but with Doctor Who's love of just "noping" things, im not having high hopes.
@edcliffe2988
@edcliffe2988 2 жыл бұрын
The one bit that I would have added to Tom Baker's Curator scene would have been: After finishing his conversation with Matt Smith, Tom gets up and slowly walks away, but pauses at the Tardis, pats it gently and says :Hello old girl" with a long, affectionate look and a smile before finally leaving.
@ProfArmitage218
@ProfArmitage218 2 жыл бұрын
Wilf asks the Doctor who the mystery woman was. The Doctor responds by pointedly looking at Wilf's granddaughter. Showrunner: "She was the Doctor's mother." Makes perfect sense.
@wickideazy
@wickideazy 2 жыл бұрын
He looked at both Sylvia and Donna. Mother and child. I caught that the very first time I saw that episode. So did everyone else I've ever talked to about that ep. So yes, it does make perfect sense.
@LibertyBridgeProductions
@LibertyBridgeProductions 2 жыл бұрын
I wish Tekteiun didn’t exist. It literally gives the doctor an origin. I want it erased cuz honestly the argument that it still creates mystery cuz of his past doesn’t make sense cuz there’s loads of adventures the Doctor goes on we never see anyway
@RionE23
@RionE23 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry but how can you say davros opens his eyes because of the Doctor’s regeneration energy? He opens them before the doctor gave him any energy.
@crimzonheretic4575
@crimzonheretic4575 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah... it really annoyed me when she said that.
@rms.ziggler7344
@rms.ziggler7344 2 жыл бұрын
Ellie I now hate you for saying doctors before hartnell is good
@JosephAAmara
@JosephAAmara 9 ай бұрын
Refreshing and honest throughout and the closing line is award worthy!
@xheralt
@xheralt 2 жыл бұрын
My answer for the Valeyard is tied to another unanswered Doctor Who question -- who is The Watcher? The Doctor knows that at some point before his final incarnation, he needs to project his spirit back to assist Four's regeneration into Five (predestination paradox). Frankly, Eleven should have dealt with that, because _so far as he knew_ he was the final incarnation. *The Valeyard is what is left of the Doctor while the helpful/good elements of his soul are embodied as The Watcher, elsewhere and when.* Time being wibbly-wobbly, the Watcher may actually have other tasks to do before finishing up in the Four/Five moment and returning to its origin point. And may even have to fight the Valeayrd for control of their body!
@adamkirsopp492
@adamkirsopp492 2 жыл бұрын
What if the Valleyard as a grown up metacrisis doctor (since he can age) driven mad by the death of Rose. Incarnations 1-10 count for 12 because of the war doctor and Tennant technically being two. So if the metacrisis doctor considers himself to be the thirteenth then it fits without disrupting the line from Smith to Capaldi.
@MegaLokopo
@MegaLokopo 2 жыл бұрын
Considering that time is being rewritten and the universe is reset frequently, we only see events as the doctors current events so any inconsistencies are simply referring to different periods in different timelines or universes.
@leejohnstone894
@leejohnstone894 2 жыл бұрын
The Master says the Valeyard comes between the Doctors 12th and final incarnation
@itsallrigged7295
@itsallrigged7295 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting approach to essentially call doctor who fans dumb and unreasonable in the intro Everyone loves being talked down to by a WhatCultureBot
@scottmclauchlan1933
@scottmclauchlan1933 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, the tone of this video was amazingly condescending, if not downright insulting, to Doctor Who fans. It's an "interesting" approach for a channel directed at Doctor Who fans.
@owenwildish331
@owenwildish331 2 жыл бұрын
Of all the Doctor Who villains I hope to return the most is the Valeyard as a major antagonist, giving him a better story, (although I do mostly love Trial of a Time Lord). expanding on the concept & mystery of an alternate Doctor who is evil (but not to reveal him to be the master as the Valyard ranks higher as a threat level or too much about his origins), in fact, it's possible the Grand Serpent might actually be the Valeyard and that he's the true mastermind behind everything from the Time War to the Timeless Child, etc
@Wizecrack22
@Wizecrack22 2 жыл бұрын
The repeated lecturing by the video spokesperson to the ‘linear thinking doctor who fans’ comes across really condescending. It’s like listening to an outsider who’s recently read up on who-universe lore, turning around to mock and “explain” things to the rest of us..
@scottmclauchlan1933
@scottmclauchlan1933 2 жыл бұрын
"Fansplaining"? 🙂
@giselakrenn2646
@giselakrenn2646 Жыл бұрын
Never ever give the doctor a name. Never ever explain his family. Never ever explain, why he stole a tardis. Sprinkle some stuff here and there (i wouldnt even had to have an answer to the timewar or gallifrey's state) . The doctor is so loveable / intersting, becausecit's not about him. He is a doctor: here to help. He is the doctor, because he's silly. Always be kind. NEVER EVER ruin his mystery by giving him a stupid backstory that destroys 60 years of lore and love and imagination
@derekp308
@derekp308 2 жыл бұрын
The Fugitive Doctor I think could be a past Doctor in disguise. We’ve seen the Master do disguises before, so why not the Doctor. The current Doctor could of course have all forgot about that, just like how the Doctor tried to forget about the War Doctor. Of course it’s also possible that the Fugitive Doctor is the Rani, but that’s also just a theory.
@danielgertler5976
@danielgertler5976 2 жыл бұрын
Alternatively: The Hybrid is the Master when he comes back and burns gallifrey with the Cybermen.
@RelicLost
@RelicLost 2 жыл бұрын
Linear? Perhaps. I think it's more that we prefer to keep the original story intact, with its secrets and it's mysteries remaining mysteries and secrets.
@giselakrenn2646
@giselakrenn2646 Жыл бұрын
This video, these open questions are EXACTLY why it works so well
@rms.ziggler7344
@rms.ziggler7344 2 жыл бұрын
It is fucking disrespectful to hartnell that there are more doctors before him. He started it there would be no dr who.
@william...1
@william...1 2 жыл бұрын
did you even watch the video?
@kevin10001
@kevin10001 2 жыл бұрын
It isn’t disrespectful to him cause he is still the first regeneration after adopting the title doctor even the classic era had shown pre William Hartnell incarnations of the characters with the möbius faces from the l4th doctor’s story The Brain of Morbius thst are supposed to be showing the doctor before William Hartnell
@doctormew9399
@doctormew9399 2 жыл бұрын
He's the first Doctor, just not the first regeneration.
@Mejoree113
@Mejoree113 2 жыл бұрын
The biggest issue with the Chibnall/Timeless Child critiques is it seems like fans want to point out every flaw at every opportunity, even inventing flaws just to find things to criticise. I'm not saying Chibnall's era is without flaws, or that TTC doesn't need some real development/clarification, but really, season 12 was fantastic, better than season 2 at the very least, and better than 5, 7B and 8 imo, probably on par with 10. It's fine to criticise the glaring issues, I just wish it wasn't so circlejerky, and it didn't feel like people had to side for or against like it's a battle of opinions.
@igorschmidlapp6987
@igorschmidlapp6987 Жыл бұрын
An "open-ended Doctor existence (on both ends) leaves so many possibilities for casting, and, now that we have the War Doctor's "insertion" in the lineage makes it limitless for possibilities before, after, or inserted in The Doctor's personal "timeline".
@jonhardwick1
@jonhardwick1 2 жыл бұрын
"Steven Moffat vastly overestimating the intelligence of his audience" or Chris Chibnall vastly underestimating the intelligence of his audience!!!
@carlmiller757
@carlmiller757 2 жыл бұрын
Personally, as a fan of the show since Pertwee, (seriously, my 1st story was Spearheads from space) I don't think they ever give the doctor a proper name. It would just end up being another Grogu situation
@danielsausaman9767
@danielsausaman9767 2 жыл бұрын
10.30-10.40 ,those other Face seen in the 4th Doctor's "The Brain of Morbius" was seen during a Mental Battle between the story's villian a former Timelord name Morbius who transferred his brain to a somewhat patched work replacement body ,& the 4th Doctor as its a Mental Battle use a TV like device it show the 1st- 4st Face ,& then show the other doctor are clearly the Faces that Morbius had before he was reduced to only his brain ,,
@kyleforeman9462
@kyleforeman9462 2 жыл бұрын
I hope when Davies returns he gets rid of the whole timeless child BS
@MegaLokopo
@MegaLokopo 2 жыл бұрын
He could say it was all the dream lord trying to kill the doctor in some way.
@MegaLokopo
@MegaLokopo 2 жыл бұрын
@@blipus8711 That sucks that he is dead, but yea regardless of how they do it I would love a reset to just after capaldi leaves. Although the show has been getting worse longer than that, I do think that would be a good spot to reset it to and try again.
@william...1
@william...1 2 жыл бұрын
he’s an outstated fan of the storyline (unlike moffat) so he won’t be changing it. also he and chibnall have had almost zero communication so far, so he probably won’t unpack it until a second series/ if at all
@tristanribeiro7903
@tristanribeiro7903 2 жыл бұрын
For the Hybrid, I have a strong candidate : The Master. In series 12, we learn that he destroyed Gallifrey : Gallifrey falls ; and he absorbed the cyberium and became half timelord, half cyberman : two warrior races.
@tristanribeiro7903
@tristanribeiro7903 2 жыл бұрын
@Henry Andrews it's a theory from a french youtuber named Dracojo.
@SoftKitteh
@SoftKitteh Жыл бұрын
Ahhh, thank you for calling us "Doctor Who Fans" instead of the ubiquitous "whovians" (which was coined as an insult anyway). Besides, the latter makes me sound like a vacuum cleaner! I loved seeing Tom Baker, just being Tom Baker and I don't really care if the part he played was necessary or just a fan favour. It was so great to see him on Doctor Who again, it was one of my absolute favourite bits of the 50th.
@theonlymoo5e
@theonlymoo5e Жыл бұрын
I loved seeing Tom Baker as the Curator. He's my all-time favourite Doctor, followed by Peter Davison & John Pertwee. For NuWho Doctors, my favourite is Matt Smith, followed by David Tennant & Peter Capaldi.
@cleoarbel
@cleoarbel 2 жыл бұрын
Also (as much as I cry over Alex Kingston being so in love with River's relationship with her parents) "the Ruby's curse," Alex Kingston's River Song novel, reveals River REGULARLY visits her parents and even lives with them in 1930s NY at one point
@librarysong8617
@librarysong8617 2 жыл бұрын
3:23 That delivery is perfect but I do have a few more questions. 1: why were the patients in The Eleventh Hour saying Doctor? 2: how did light get to earth after the Lupari covered it. 3: What happened to K9 MK 1 and 2. But that was a brilliant list
@Cally.Summer
@Cally.Summer 2 жыл бұрын
K9 Mk 1 stayed on Gallifrey with Leela (The Invasion of Time). Mk 2 stayed in E-Space(ish) with Romana (Warriors' Gate)
@BigFunnyGiant2
@BigFunnyGiant2 2 жыл бұрын
I thought it was twelfth and final? If that is the case, then it’s easy to assume since the thirteenth was technically supposed to be the final that The Valeyard was between the twelfth and thirteenth, but we know now the thirteenth isn’t final, so it could be The Valeyard could be anywhere between the twelfth and googolplex Doctors for all we know.
@henrikhanssen6321
@henrikhanssen6321 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful video. It’s a fun game to try to make 60 years of serialised TV make sense. When in doubt, I embrace the mystery. Even relatively straightforward fiction like Sir Arthur’s original Sherlock Holmes stories can mess with your head. Most stories reference the date they take place. But if you put them in chronological order, Watson is married 3 times to women called Mary who keep dying. And don’t get me started on where his war wound is. Leg or shoulder? Anyway, loving this channel. Great work.
@Jamie_D
@Jamie_D Жыл бұрын
You don't actually die before regenerating, it prevents you from dying from what i understand, so the doctor didn't murder anyone as stated at 12:04
@yahccs1
@yahccs1 2 жыл бұрын
I've just watched one of Ellie's Star Trek videos and surprised to see Ellie again on this Doctor Who one straight away - or maybe not so surprised, the way KZbin works! When I saw the other female doctor appear in one episode and neither of the doctors remember being the other.... my first thought was it's a version of the doctor from a parallel universe where the regenerations might have happened at different times and resulted in different appearances! I wasn't thinking of all the unknown history of the character before the 'first' doctor's story. I once made up a story in which the chameleon circuit started working again and the outside of the Tardis managed to change its appearance to look like an old garden shed... but the doctor preferred the police box so by the end of the story it was back to its usual form!
@sanddagger36
@sanddagger36 2 жыл бұрын
lol, this whole list is Ellie yelling at us to accept Chibnall's changes.
@richardbarth918
@richardbarth918 2 жыл бұрын
Basically. The condescending nature of the video is an L
@maryandramiller3376
@maryandramiller3376 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I don't like the condescending nature of the video. Or her weird sign off phrase. 😖
@william...1
@william...1 2 жыл бұрын
did you even watch the video? i didn’t know that chibnall wrote the curator, the valeyard or the name of the doctor…
@sanddagger36
@sanddagger36 2 жыл бұрын
@@william...1 Did you even read my comment? She made references to the previous lives of the doctor due to the timeless child during half of the listed questions and she was condescending about it the whole time. You don't have to call out one comment for being too broad when saying "The whole list" You are being petty and I'm now pretty sure you are a Chibnall fan.
@william...1
@william...1 2 жыл бұрын
@@sanddagger36 you blatantly lied in your comment but now i’m a chibnall defender for correcting you?
@ianotimelord
@ianotimelord 2 жыл бұрын
When the second is exiled to earth and the Tardis lands, the third Doctor falls out of the Tardis in the second Doctors clothes. If he became Ruth why isn't he in her clothes? I don't count timeless children story.
@ChanceChandlerZombieTARDIS
@ChanceChandlerZombieTARDIS 2 жыл бұрын
While I personally have zero issues with pre-Hartnell incarnations, I do want an explanation as to why such incarnations have a Police Box as their TARDIS exterior.
@danthemeegs8751
@danthemeegs8751 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, that's the big question for me too. Doubt Chibnall will answer it in the last two episodes though, especially as he wasn't planning on doing the centenary.
@IainCiplinski
@IainCiplinski Жыл бұрын
I quite like the theory that Jo Martin's Doctor isn't really the Doctor but a complete memory transfer re: The Next Doctor, we could have some cool adventures with her and could put the Timeless Child behind us lol
@igorschmidlapp6987
@igorschmidlapp6987 Жыл бұрын
I always assumed watching the episode that the Curator was a "retired" 4th Doctor, based on the dialogue. I never worried about the "how", I just enjoyed the "return" of my first and favorite Doctor... It does kind of leave an "out" for David Tennant's return. ;-)
@sarahglover3286
@sarahglover3286 Жыл бұрын
I've always believed The Woman is the same woman we meet two other times, the woman who has the barn next to the orphanage where the War Doctor took the Moment!
@sarahglover3286
@sarahglover3286 Жыл бұрын
No the Valeyard isn't between 12th and 13th its 12th and final, which was obviously assumed to be 13th but as they never thought they'd get there they weren't concerned. Final now could be anywhere, especially if you factor in the Timeless Children as Ruth was probably already past 12!
@TheRobinator304
@TheRobinator304 2 жыл бұрын
I remember that tennant's doctor once mentioned "I was married once". Which doesn't refer to River Song. Does anyone remember the episode? Or even better, who is talking about?
@iambencoleman
@iambencoleman 2 жыл бұрын
Could be in The End Of Time when he tells Ood Sigma he was married to "Good Queen Bess" which would refer to when he married Elizabeth I in The Day Of The Doctor.
@stephenwray4950
@stephenwray4950 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget that Susan in the first series was his Granddaughter, so would make sense at being married in the past and having kids
@sh-spectrum409
@sh-spectrum409 2 жыл бұрын
I think the biggest question is: "How much course-correcting is Russell T. Davies going to do when he returns as head writer?"
@eshbena
@eshbena 2 жыл бұрын
He has been reported to have liked the Timeless Child thing, so I think we're all just going to have to get used to it.
@sh-spectrum409
@sh-spectrum409 2 жыл бұрын
@@eshbena Don't get me wrong I like the idea of the Timeless Child, I just think it would have made more sense if it was The Master instead.
@RaggedyDoctor11
@RaggedyDoctor11 2 жыл бұрын
I JUST COULDN’T VISIT AMY AND RORY OKAY, IT WAS FAR TOO WIBBLY-WOBBLY
@MegaLokopo
@MegaLokopo 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have any proof you are the actual matt smith?
@RaggedyDoctor11
@RaggedyDoctor11 2 жыл бұрын
@@MegaLokopo yes
@marknicholson5508
@marknicholson5508 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for clearing that up
@jb888888888
@jb888888888 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe the Curator is a past version of the being currently known as The Doctor, and the "Fourth Doctor" was the one revisiting an old favourite.
@tetraquark2402
@tetraquark2402 2 жыл бұрын
The Curator is the guy whose watching his legacy burn down
@lukusblack6442
@lukusblack6442 9 ай бұрын
The Doctor does explain why he can't go back and save Amy. First is the damage the angels have made in that era, and the second is that he's now aware of their future due to the grave, just as he was aware of River's immediate fate with the angel from the book's spoiler. He can't go back and change a future he's currently a part of. Couple this with something said a while back (I don't recall when). One of the Doctors said that certain points in history get locked out of the Tardis due to a cracking or thinning of the temporal veil, much like Rose's dimension cannon messing with the dimensional fabric. He can't even go back to visit because he doesn't like endings.
@evesherlocked
@evesherlocked 2 жыл бұрын
4:37 reminds me strong at Sherlock 🤣🤣😂
@jamescastelli8507
@jamescastelli8507 2 жыл бұрын
There is nothing stopping The Doctor from going back to visit Amy and Rory other than that was how it was written or their contracts ran out. But in the story they exist in a place and time, and that time is not cut off as a possible (intentional or accidental) destination for the TARDIS. If he/she were to land anywhere and anywhen, there is no guarantee that either someone he knew or will know will be there, or that absolutely nobody will be present who had the misfortune of having encountered an Angel. In short, he's making it up as he goes along and can invent any explanation for why he can't in the story, but that is only to cover for the technical and practical reasons of the show and the availability of actors.
@athenastewart9167
@athenastewart9167 2 жыл бұрын
I think it would just hurt him too much to go back.
@deadmeat3171
@deadmeat3171 2 жыл бұрын
The valyard is between the 12th and final regeneration not the 12th and13th plus Ruth’s place in the timeline isn’t confirmed as remember rule 1
@tracyroweauthor
@tracyroweauthor 2 жыл бұрын
Did you seriously just say Moffat overestimated the intelligence of his audience??
@william...1
@william...1 2 жыл бұрын
he started a storyline in 2010 and only resolved it on christmas day 2013 and even then it didn’t make sense… on a show made for children. of course he overestimates
@robertfeld5829
@robertfeld5829 2 жыл бұрын
Tom Baker needs to come back for the Curator Arc to finish.
@lel7841
@lel7841 2 жыл бұрын
The actor is quite elderly now. He probably couldn't do a lengthy shoot any more. I wouldn't want him to destroy his remaining health just to satisfy fans
@selena8472
@selena8472 2 жыл бұрын
the curator is *the fourth doctor* how he got there and all that *who cares* he is the doctor of *hope* and that's what's important and why he brings it together and says Gallifrey falls no more :D
@nimblehealer199
@nimblehealer199 2 жыл бұрын
I think so too
@TheSpectacledOwl
@TheSpectacledOwl 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone else get the feeling this video was to throw shade at outraged Who fans, especially because of the Timeless Children episode?
@thewewguy8t88
@thewewguy8t88 Жыл бұрын
Honestly the whole Flux storyline felt like it was a bunch of unconnected doctor who episodes that were trying to be connected to each other. Like it felt like too much was going on at the same time.
@igorschmidlapp6987
@igorschmidlapp6987 Жыл бұрын
The 4th Doctor told Davros that the fist Dalek invasion of Earth took place in the year 2000. Granted, it was broadcast in 1975, so, they gave themselves 25 years, and they probably thought that the show couldn't last (they did try to kill it in the '80s).
@julianaylor4351
@julianaylor4351 2 жыл бұрын
Not confused, never was, pay attention to the dialogue, and remember it's all timey whimey. 🙄🥴😁❤️
@Legxnd
@Legxnd 2 жыл бұрын
I know it sounds close-minded but imagine the person who wrote the show... what do you think they would feel about taking away the importance of Hartnell's doctor as the first. sure it's fine to adapt the show to more current times but it's important not to break away from the core of the show as a storyteller, you have certain walls that help structure the plot and the message of the show and when you take down those walls you lose any sort of story building you had in the first place so saying to Who fans that have invested in the show longer than you were born "Doctor who fans are boringly linear" is taking away from the voice of the people who actually keep it alive for the sake of imagination and sci-fi altogether not politics... because that's not the core of the show, no one watches Doctor Who for political or "woke" reasons smh I'm basically being told shut up The Doctor is Super Man now...
@bernardevans1
@bernardevans1 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah she seemed really Angry and it was like Dr Who CNN, with the clickbait waiting /answering the question we clicked after 10 questions we didn’t. What’s the date that cannon can just be ignored, 1 hour, 1 episode, 1 series. They are trading on previous decades with a big budget, hire a cannon researcher just like a continuity scene expert. Naturally some mistakes will occur, slip ups that can’t be fixed. ST Enterprise showed respect and care and creativity in dealing with Cannon issues. On a separate point I was disappointed with the 50th as it traded on a date but just brought new era stuff. Would love for the UK Tomorrow People do be brought back. But picking up with original cast as if there was just a gap rather that a reboot etc
@scottmcshannon6821
@scottmcshannon6821 2 жыл бұрын
hartnell has to be the first doctor, otherwise the doctor found a bunch of spare regenerations somewhere. if hartnell wasnt first, he would have run out of regenerations and died. although it does seem like the doctor has enough experience, knowledge, and conceit to have regenerated dozens of times already.
@aphilipdent
@aphilipdent 2 жыл бұрын
@@scottmcshannon6821 What if the power to regenerate sent through the crack was too much? Capaldi said he doesn't know how many more he got. Theoretically the Doctor is a closed loop and has to erase his memory for his own sanity.
@Tyr438
@Tyr438 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone hates the timeless child and all I see is they created a way to move past the fact the 12th not only shouldn't have existed but was handed to him with the power of who knows how many gallifreyans. How was anyone actually expecting the doctor to regenerate passed Capaldi without some reasonable mechanic? The Doctors impossible for a reason and idc if people think it's thrown in because like I said it wouldn't make sense just to let the doctor to continue to endlessly regenerate after all that we've seen since the 11lth and ever since we knew there was a limit.
@fadikhoory5350
@fadikhoory5350 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like bringing back the Brigadier was a mistake in Mawdryn Undead if he was to appear in the Five Doctors. I know Ian was to return but they could have brought back Liz Shaw. I think the only way to fix the controversy is to pretend that the web of fear wasn't "forty years" after the abominable snowmen but thirty to thirty-five then you could have the Pertwee era set after 1975 and Sarah Jane can canonically be from around 1980.
@eshbena
@eshbena 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, for the timing to work, it would have had to be a first doctor companion. Steven Wright, Dodi, someone like that.
@fadikhoory5350
@fadikhoory5350 2 жыл бұрын
@@eshbena Steven Wright? You mean Barbara. Steven left in the Savages which wasn't set on Earth and in the late 1960's Jackie Lane stopped acting.
@jonathanthornstirringfire7922
@jonathanthornstirringfire7922 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a nice review. I appreciated it, truly!
@BassandoForte
@BassandoForte 2 жыл бұрын
Jo Martin is the Valyard... 👍
@DfiftyMusic
@DfiftyMusic 2 жыл бұрын
No, it’s because the paradox would rip New York off the planet, it’s nothing to do with wanting to go back or not, he literally *can’t*
@howardw7467
@howardw7467 2 жыл бұрын
The person who wrote this really doesn't like Doctor Who fans.
@IDontGiveAF188
@IDontGiveAF188 Жыл бұрын
I just love looking back at the curator now that tenent is back.
@Nikstar34
@Nikstar34 2 жыл бұрын
I always liked the idea of the hybrid being the DoctorDonna
@daverhoden445
@daverhoden445 2 жыл бұрын
I would submit that the hybrid is any Doctor/Companion pairing. The Extraordinary combined with the ordinary. Every Companion makes The Doctor less singular and The Doctor manifests the heroic in every Companion. Is the Doctor ever more dangerous than when the Companion is risk? Are the Companions ever more unstoppable than when the Doctor is in danger? Rose broke a Tardis, Amy recreated reality, Clara expanded herself across his timeline.
@robadams5799
@robadams5799 5 ай бұрын
Can I just say that as a Doctor Who fan since the 80's, I've never been "outraged" by anything I saw on the show. I disagreed with the "half human on my mother's side" thing, and I didn't think the Doctor should have kissed Grace like he did, but I was not "outraged." I figured he was having a bit of "post-regeneration psychosis."
@ianbrewster8934
@ianbrewster8934 2 жыл бұрын
Really liked this video. Still didn't like the whole hybrid storyline.... And I wish they would have given a definite answer to the Valeyard.... Especially since the great intelligence literally says that before the end the doctor will be known by that name.
@marklivingstone3710
@marklivingstone3710 Жыл бұрын
I saw Tom Baker once in London. He walked past my partner and I, I said oooh, thats Tom Baker, he smiled and nodded to us. I turned around and called out, I loved you as Rasputin (Nicholas and Alexandra 1971). He stopped, turned towards me, big grin on his face, and said no one has ever said that to me.
@lucasaymeric9627
@lucasaymeric9627 2 жыл бұрын
4:50 Technically, it was never said the Valeyard was between the 12th and 13th incarnation, the exact words were "between your 12th and *final* incarnation", fans then deduce it was the 13th because of what we knew then, but with all we know now, it doesn't have to be, technically, with all the pre-hartnell doctors, for all we know, the Valeyard is somewhere in classic series continuity, or even before that, or maybe thousands of years after the current series, who knows ? But I quite like the theory that he's the master in disguise too ...
@thecowboyofoklahoma5866
@thecowboyofoklahoma5866 2 жыл бұрын
How could anybody not get the fact that the curator was the doctor?
@bundaben24
@bundaben24 2 жыл бұрын
A whole video telling us how stupid the fans are, what a great idea. Bring back Will or let the channel die with out insulting all of us!
@blacksunshine7485
@blacksunshine7485 2 жыл бұрын
I thought exactly the same thing. Telling us how 'fans of who' think. Just read the comments! You can see how many interpret the show in their own way. What forums are they reading? Reminds me of the time that company insulted anime fans telling them they couldn't get girlfriends lol
@maryandramiller3376
@maryandramiller3376 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing.
@william...1
@william...1 2 жыл бұрын
or maybe, just maybe, you should stop being so hateful?
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Никогда не ешьте еду в этой столовой
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