.357 mag vs .44 mag - Drywall Test

[@joearokis8265]

I bet if the .44 mag had the extra 2 inches of barrel that the .357 had, it would have gone through more sheets than it did. I always try to keep barrel length the same when comparing two rounds.

[@philippewhitty3049]

Speed and diameter...

[@joejose2022]

@@philippewhitty3049 what do you mean by that?

[@philippewhitty3049]

@@joejose2022 The smaller diameter and the speed, that important for penetration.

[@joejose2022]

@@philippewhitty3049 the original commenter was saying that you lose velocity with shorter barrels. The difference between a 2 in barrel and a 4 in barrel would be significant. If the 44 mag was a 4 in barrel it would have a greater velocity and better penetration.

[@brutebiz82]

Paul Harrell has disproved the barrel length notion several times with many makes of revolvers.

[@keenobservations3050]

Space in between each sheet changes the final number. With blowout of the back of the drywall would allow more sheets or less sheets of penetration. The tightly packed sheets cause the rounds to compact the drywall. Need to space the dry wall by 4 inches to get a good reading on what really happens.

[@Shooter-1924]

Drywall is notorious for inhibiting expansion in most hollow point rounds. No hydrostatic pressure to expand the projectile against the hard drywall around it.

[@phild9813]

Yeah definitely. The larger holes going through the drywall were from the bullets tumbling. Great video.

[@loochan325]

Hydrostatic shock expand some wet ass when the bulett is supersonic, not the bulett. For bulett expansion you need a more cavernous holowpoint, higher diameter holow and soft lead not hardcast, or corbone with a hard ball placed in a similar conic shape cavernous soft bulett, or EFMJ that have radial striated FMJ over a front soft elastomer part placed over a back weight.

[@tommypackwood1013]

Remember, solid nose bullets penetrate much farther than hollow point

[@Sman7290]

It also instantly plugs the hollow cavity, eliminating expansion, and basically turning it into a ball round.

[@josepharchuleta3129]

I not only think that barrel length makes a difference but the grain of bullet changes the velocity of a bullet as well. If the .44 mag was shooting with a comparable barrel length and a comparable grain of bullet, my guess is that it would have shot through 5 or 6 more sheets than the .357 mag.

[@henryhallmann4282]

In the “good old days” we used rolls of newspapers to stuff inside the walls where insulation would be placed. A .38 makes an excellent home protection gun as the bullet has less of a chance of wall penetration as do larger calibers and when a .38 enters the body it tends to bounce off the ribs inside the body , causing a lot of damage.

[@grindfreakmike5754]

Like a m16 round does.

[@henryhallmann4282]

@peter - you dumb

[@jasonmedcalf2707]

@@grindfreakmike5754 Neither bullets "bounce" The 223 round shatters and those pieces create multiple wound channels.

[@justusbryant7366]

Ummmm 38 sucks 😂

[@INUAGAIN]

isn't a .357 Mag bullet smaller than a .38? Doesn't it always penetrate better than a .38 with the same grains of powder?

[@johnknouse8846]

That’s a beautiful Ruger 44 mag snubbie! I would have guessed about 12-15 sheets at most. Surprising results! Wondering if the hollow points got packed with drywall, which stopped the expansion.

[@InlinePaul]

Yeah, round nose full metal jacket would probably go deeper.

[@sherryneglia4804]

Definitely I'd say

[@billss396]

Anybody who doesn't like 357 and 44 magnum just ain't American

[@casonbedford3683]

Facts

[@nmelkhunter1]

‘Murica!

[@xx_insert_cool_username_he6876]

And 45 acp

[@MattWaller04]

Accurate.

[@MattWaller04]

@@xx_insert_cool_username_he6876 lol 2 world wars!

[@chrisharmon8858]

I feel like I'm watching the count on sesame street. "1 sheet of drywall...hmm, hmm, hmm. 2 sheets of drywall ...hmm, hmm, hmm"

[@jamesgoodwin1155]

Guess he made this video before building materials shot through the roof.

[@kendodd8734]

Great post pmsl

[@kensan8204]

😂

[@nickneff6926]

Forest Gump vibes

[@greytuesday28]

For real, I had to watch it at 2x speed. It was insulting my intelligence.

[@Ghoststar2009]

Great video; I would suggest using 2x6 framing with cement board over blue-board and fill the hollow with gravel and sand - 5.5 inches of gravel and sand may seem heavy, but it's not that heavy and I am pretty sure such a wall with a total of 8.5 depth and a hollow filled with 5.5 inches of sand and something like bluestone gravel will stop the magnums and likely even rifle rounds. Maybe you could make a small version and test it. Good luck. David

[@stoveboltlvr3798]

Maybe a sheet of 1/8" steel added for good measure. You're right though, that gravel fill would go a long, long way.

[@mykehunt2430]

I was talking to a home inspector and he said he got into the wall of his 1920s farmhouse here in Michigan in the cavities were full of sand. I told him at least his house was bulletproof.

[@johnchen9930]

Drywall is made of gypsum powder, very loose and soft. If you put one layer of ceramic tile of the same thickness as the second and fourth layer, I guess both guns will stop at the 5th layer drywall.

[@GrantOakes]

Barrel length makes a major difference too as it captures more energy from the cartridge to propel the round. If the .44 Mag had a longer barrel to match the .357 it would have probably gone through 2 more sheets of drywall.

[@biknjak]

That's what I was thinking 🤔

[@johnjaffe6107]

I was gonna say the same before I even watched the video.

[@pursuithemi5.7awd81]

@@johnjaffe6107 I'm glad I read your comment 😊 genius thank you

[@heavydutyreviews1303]

Yep!

[@cryptidnomad3850]

Yep,,big dif between my snubby and my 6",,,

[@johngiannini697]

The barrels should be the same such as 4" or 6" instead of 4" verses 2 1/2".

[@1803cannon]

I agree. Losing a lot of pressure with the short barrel.

[@nickyd.4695]

You're on the money!!!

[@thatguy-art6229]

Why is that even important. The simple tech data from the mfg should answer your question - if you think it is important. Otherwise you are just playing with.....

[@johngiannini697]

@@thatguy-art6229 Well here is the difference the shorter barrel expels the slug quicker and in so doing a lot of unburnt power and pressure with it. The longer barrel give the slug more speed because of the longer barrel. The simple tech data needs be examined for what barrel length the information was obtained from.

[@joewoodchuck3824]

I'm sure he'd be willing to do the test with equal length barrels if you give him whatever meets your technical standards.

[@chrisinhotwater9896]

Note to self dont use drywall as cover...

[@kahrhoshe]

at least not less than 20 layers of half inch LOL

[@mike1967sam]

This is insane. I thought maybe 7 or 8 for the .357 and about 10 for the .44...This is a great video especially for people out there who want a concealed carry permit and think - "No, I need something with real stopping a 357 isn't enough, I need a 44.". It's true that the 44 does do more damage but the 357 will go through practically anything the 44 will. Amazing video. Mike.

[@freegeorgia4808]

The 125gr JHP in a .357 has a one shot stop record bevause it expends all of its energy in the target while the .44 is only 86%. I have a police manual from the 1990s with that information. The book is earlier though. No 9mm mentioned

[@georgehorner1578]

Evan Marshalls bullet wound studies did say the 357 beat the 44 as far as wound trauma.

[@LyleSmith-q3e]

Yes along with Ed Sanow

[@stroys7061]

I have a Ruger 44 mag with 7 1/2 inch barrel. I stacked 12 inches of fully dried treated lumber left over from a deck build. It included two 4x4’s and four 5/4 inch decking lumber. All of it was several years old and very hard. I used Garret 310 grain hard cast bullets from about 10 feet. I fired two bullets. Both were stopped at 9 inches penetration and did not deform much. I bought the garrets to take on a backpacking trip into grizzle bear country (Bob Marshall, Montana). One member of our party carried a 475 Linebaugh and I carried the 44 mag. Everyone else carried bear spray as did I. I wanted to be sure my rounds would penetrate and crush bone. I’m satisfied with the power. It is not fun to shoot that heavy load but put 44 special in it and there is very little recoil.

[@Casey773]

Adam, don't you think the 44magnum would have made about 4 more sheets if it had an 8 inch barrel?

[@BlaccSuave]

Of course it wldve I like snub nose heavy caliber pistols tho the intent 4 em is 2 get up close and personal

[@cowboycarpenter8713]

@@BlaccSuave Rather use a 5 inch and put the barrel in their navel. and I wouldn't waste 40% of the powder charge.

[@markbotta8567]

Had the barrels been of equal length, the 44 would have definitely penetrated a few more boards.

[@ronhunt9396]

My 44mag Ruger has a 7in barrel. I bought it in the mid 80s. Last year I put a Leopold scope on it. Love it

[@cowboycarpenter8713]

Maybe, but then again if the bullet was traveling faster it may have flattened the bullet more causing a larger hole and less penetration'

[@halfcirclehranch6877]

Interesting story from a police officer. A woman was trying to scare her husband (who liked to beat the hell out of her), so she shot the wall next to him with a .357 Magnum. The bullet passed through two interior walls, punched its way out through the outside brick wall, flew into the neighbor's yard, between the neighbor's legs, and punched a hole through his lawnmower's engine. He didn't know what happened. Just all the sudden his lawn mower stopped. He looked and there was a stream of oil coming out of the engine. He didn't have any idea what happened until the police showed up at his neighbor's house and traced the bullet path to his lawn mower.

[@itsjustjoe3790]

Shoulda bought a Deere.

[@Rick-hx1ne]

Yike it should be more careful it too much power would go thru I wouldn't want to use too much power the best way is used wiser to shoot with with 9mm pistol I don't want to be trouble hurting someone to be sued . 9mm it should be alright. 9mm would go to 10 walls maybe I m guessing.

[@garyevans3421]

Nine looks small in comparison to these revolver rounds, but it has pretty good penetration. Your guess as to how many sheets sounds pretty good, so shooting from inside a normal house rather than from one end to the other would probably come out and threaten others!

[@stephenkluz9733]

Unlikely it would have gone through the brick and still have enough energy to damage that lawn mower.

[@thekochdieselskils5506]

The officers I’ve seen in action couldn’t find their own ass with both hands, I’m calling BS on that.

[@KantoCacho]

Damn re-upload an old video from 3 years ago and it got more views good for you. Nice video very informative as I'm looking to buy a revolver but haven't decided on caliber

[@WHOTEEWHO]

YT is whack

[@urguz-pn3qp]

the difference between the barrels lenght is enourmos.the .44 with same barrel lenght brings 143 meter a second and 1267 joule more.

[@samthai818]

I was only expecting 4 or 6 sheets of penetration. The 44 mag is a few inches shorter. I think the 44 gains 25 to 50 fps per inch of additional length which translates to 12 to 25 ft/lbs energy per inch. Which may add an additional 1 to two more sheets of penetration. In any regards, this was an interesting test. Thank you.

[@billdye3530]

I've been carrying same ammo in Taurus 627 but time for a change unless using it in bear territory. I thought maybe 10 to 12 sheets. Surprising video on over penetration. Thanks

[@possumpopper89]

I’ve shot auto pistols thru drywall before and they penetrated 14-15 layers. I spaced my drywall layers about an inch apart. A 5.56 rifle penetrated about 9 layers with fragments past the 3rd layer.

[@christopherhumphrey]

So my walls don't have that many layers of drywall. So you're saying my .45 mag bullets are going threw them when I shoot at the moths in my house? Well Damn! Who would've thunk.🤣😂

[@daqt6079]

I guessed 12 sheets for the 44 mag. For the 357 I wasn’t sure if it would be a few sheets more or a few less. But wow, both are impressive! After seeing this I’m thinking a 500 S&W mag would probably go through all of them. Great test and thank you for doing it!

[@vincesmith764]

and don,t foreget the broken/damaged wrist cartlidge in shooting hand.

[@BeingRealSavage]

@@vincesmith764 what called short barrel revolver ? 44 magnums or

[@leecowell8165]

@@vincesmith764 yeah hear you there. If one is firing a 50 tell you what that better have a long barrel and you'd want some weight on that thing as well.

[@vincesmith764]

@@leecowell8165 understood. i,m getting maturerer .every year. same goes with my .357,s. :)

[@virginia7125]

I wonder how far a 41 magnum would have penetrated? Or even a 357 maximum? The 44 may have went deeper if it had the same barrel length as the 357.

[@sweetdrahthaar7951]

I’ve had 357‘s for decades and have only fired a 44 magnum a few times decades ago. Have no desire to own a 44 but I’ll watch any comparison between the two. Thanks for the video sir👍🏻

[@bradhaines3142]

i want a 44 magnum lever action rifle, bout as small as id go for that big of a boom

[@sweetdrahthaar7951]

@@bradhaines3142 Lever actions and revolvers are my favorites. And if I had to choose I’d probably go single action on the revolver. How’s that for being old-fashioned😂 I’ve kept some of those around for decades now all in 357/38. People are really liking the Henry’s. We’ll see what Ruger does with Marlin. If they can get anywhere near the JB stamped Marlin products, those will be hard to beat.

[@bradhaines3142]

@@sweetdrahthaar7951 i want to get a CC license and a pistol with all the fixings (good holster and such for it, pile of ammo, etc) but soon as i get all that, im getting a henry. they look so nice, the design is so classic. and in large pistol caliber are reasonably punchy in both directions

[@sweetdrahthaar7951]

@@bradhaines3142 You can’t go wrong with a Henry.. they are doing a real nice job on their products and quality control as far as I know is real good. Here’s a quick Henry story: I bought one of their 22s secondhand. Can’t remember the model number but it’s an octagon barrel. This has been quite a while ago and upgrade wood kits were available back then so I called them up and said I’d like to dress mine up a little with some figured word. They said we don’t do that anymore but we’ve got lots of wood sets. I said well pick one of the better ones you’ve got and I’ll buy it. They said we’ll send you the best we have no charge. And they did. They said if it’s not better than what you’ve got just go ahead and keep it. It wasn’t really better than what was on the rifle but I’ve got an extra set of furniture now. That’s a pretty impressive company in my opinion👍🏻

[@robertharris2018]

Now I'm wondering how many they would go through if there was an inch of space between each piece of drywall or even a half inch.

[@pursuithemi5.7awd81]

Some explanation can't be figured out

[@Sman7290]

Maybe you'd drop 2 sheets.

[@henrycrabb9737]

alternatively to putting extra layers of drywall you can put an inch of plywood then drywall.

[@NOBODY-kh4pt]

Gotta space out the drywall a lil bit.

[@penroddavis8098]

Try putting an air gap between layers like going through a wall. I'll bet it is a lot different.

[@aaronm.3581]

I'm curious of this as well. I suspect it would travel through more sheets. You?

[@raymondproulx1095]

If barrel lengths were the same, I feel the 44 Mag would have made it through a few more layers. Great video.

[@paradiswest4395]

That was the first thing I noticed was the barrel lengths are not the same

[@sirshootsalott]

Yea hate when people try to do videos like this but they don’t use the same ammo in all the different calibers or different barrel lengths and expect it to be a accurate test it’s one thing to title it shooting drywall but idk

[@RU2AIM]

@@sirshootsalott I once did a comparison between a Cadillac and an oil fryer to see which one made the best Tie-dye T-shirts using spoiled sour cream on one and used transmission fluid on the other.

[@sirshootsalott]

@@RU2AIM sounds lit

[@RU2AIM]

Yeah, I'll have to admit I believe I was. 😉

[@wulfmaer8919]

So, I skipped to the end and probably missed useful details on the ammo, but here are my concerns: For a valid test you need the same length barrel on both pistols, and then as close as you can get to the same projectile weight on the ammo. I also think solid ammo would be preferential to hollow points for max penetration and more uniform performance comparison. But it was still interesting to see. Thanks for the video!

[@stevenhuckaby2902]

The 44 was at a disadvantage dye to excesive wrist recoil due to the small snub nose barrel , try it again using the 7 3/4 inch barrel , like mine , Huge difference !

[@gregpalermo3861]

They're comparing apples to oranges. If every thing were exactly the same then what exactly would you be comparing?

[@roel.vinckens]

The .44 was aimed at a lower angle as well... Still nice results!

[@ralphu.7568]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. Use the same length barrel.

[@ORCs-R-losers]

@@gregpalermo3861 Everything else except the caliber or bullet should be the same. Even the angle of penetration should be the same. The 44 was at a disadvantage regarding the barrel lenght and the downward angle. We know that longer barrel means farther distance and downward angle is like passing a thicker board.

[@garydouglas9413]

Why can't the comparison test be done with the same barrel length for the revolvers?

[@jamiegodfather]

I’m thinking about a 1/2’ drywall and 1/2’ plywood layering system with each material alternated say ten plywood and ten drywall and see how many layers a bullet can penetrate

[@randalbigirvirvin1153]

I'm completely amazed at how many layers were penatrated

[@thepapergoomba9390]

That's what your mom said to me last night

[@tomprice3513]

The Paper Goomba ur real cool what are u 12

[@thepapergoomba9390]

@@tomprice3513 Yes 12/10 in looks according to ur mom

[@eliferguson3422]

@@thepapergoomba9390 ain't going to lie, that was a good comeback.

[@wehrewulf]

penetrated

[@robertgitzen8227]

Both turned into an FMJ, common dry wall issue. Good vid!

[@Cartier_specialist]

I think you'd be better off using plate steel to line your safe room. I knew your 6 or 7 sheet guess was going to be way low.

[@bradhaines3142]

dont forget to paint to prevent rust

[@LeoBaker-ir3vo]

How do you hang a picture on bullet proof drywall

[@marktemplin1159]

Wet the dry wall,, hydro Dynamics plays a huge part of the way a bullet will expand,,, hollow points will collapse wene hitting hard dry targets,, it takes the hydro Dynamics of a living body or otherwise to force the hollow cavity to expand

[@hilohaw]

I've seen some safe rooms designed to have layers of 3/4" plywood and layers of sheet metal, in addition to drywall. Seeing this experiment makes me think that might be a good idea.

[@markw999]

The sheet metal helps a lot. Did this experiment years ago. I think the result was 5 layers of 1/2 inch with sheet metal between each (.357). Looonnng time ago though.

[@jtjjbannie]

I wonder if there would be a difference if there was air space between all the sheets?

[@Drifter35417]

My thoughts as well. Each air gap ends at the next point of impact. Each impact should cause more deformity to the bullet. There by making more surface area to drag the bullets velocity down.

[@williehenderson7403]

Yes it would

[@blueridgeboy6791]

You should look into testing the 327 federal mag vs 357 magnum. That would be interesting.

[@raywhitehead730]

Been done, many times...look it up...

[@douglasbeland8914]

I'd like to see the 44 vs. the 357 maximum. With the same length barrels

[@ytucharliesierra]

I'm wondering if brick walls could possibly be less expensive than special bullet proof drywall.

[@cavedancesinc.6775]

Now I want to see how many bricks can be penetrated hitting center of an 8-foot wall. It's been done before.

[@shodanrich3317]

Given the massive difference in recoil, control, for the extra 2 sheets of drywall, I'm firmly in the 357 camp. Nearly same penetration with much more control. You should do it again using same barrel length.

[@adstryker5084]

That particular 357 pistol had a larger grip than the 44 and a longer barrel. Switch that around so that the 44 had the larger grip and the longer barrel and you wouldn't see such a "massive" difference in recoil. There would still be a difference, since the 44 round is capable of generating about twice the kinetic energy of the 357, but it is imminently possible to have a well-controlled 44 pistol -- it just takes more mass, a good grip, and maybe a recoil compensator.

[@shodanrich3317]

@@adstryker5084 I’d still go with the 357 for self defense. No one’s walking away from a 357 hit. Outdoors in bear cat country that’s where the 44 rules

[@adstryker5084]

@@shodanrich3317No argument from me about the suitability of a 357, just pointing out that the recoil differences we're seeing in this video are due in large measure to the excessively petit nature of that particular 44 pistol.

[@shodanrich3317]

Kudos to you AD. You may be the first weapons enthusiast to use the word “petite” in reference to a 44 mag. 😎😀

[@kartofflespotato2350]

Looking forward to this, always like real world demonstrations, cuz nobody has stacks of pumpkins in their homes but drywall is everywhere.

[@Vorpal_Wit]

Both of these rounds have significant velocity changes with barrel lenght increases. Its one of the things that makes them such great all-round survival rounds. Test them out of a lever action carbine and watch the difference it makes.

[@davidhandyman7571]

I was thinking the same. I am thinking he might need a few more sheets of drywall.

[@Marktk72]

Doesn't surprise me. When you fire into something that plugs a JHP, it' becomes a FMJ. Thanks!

[@gregwillis7767]

I too, guessed at 7 layers, because using hollow points rather than wadcutters would allow the wallboard to "clog" the hollow, reducing inertia. However, I thought the 4 inch vs 2&1/2 inch BBL, and the smaller diameter (less resistance?) Would all the .357 to travel farther. But I was guessing also.

[@michaelgarner4229]

If there where spaces between the sheets i think the bullets could penetrate even more. Because the gypsum is kinda incompressable its pushing a stack of powder in front of the bullet. Maybe try it again with gaps between the sheets

[@rascal0175]

Consider comparisons with fire resistant and water resistant drywall. You may find considerable differences in penetration.

[@jt76801]

I was thinking the same thing. That looks like half inch drywall which is pretty standard for interior walls. I wonder how 5/8 fire rock would handle some rounds.

[@rascal0175]

@@jt76801 Me too. I redid my interior walls on a log house. There’s a big difference in drywall types. Since I don’t know the right terms I’ll just say the formulas for the materials are a lot different. I don’t think any of it will stop magnum revolver rounds in any practical way, but reshooting this video would be a good start in getting a baseline.

[@6nosis]

If that 44 had a longer barrel it might’ve gone through another 5?

[@robertstojcevski1098]

Both of those calibres are nothing to sneeze at, love the look of that ruger 👍👍oh you can sure see the difference in the recoil in the slomo

[@garycuster5031]

I agree with Joe...barrel length on the 44 kept velocity down and penetration.

[@jeromeknasinski3862]

Who knew... So what material do you have to shoot into to make the bullet mushroom???

[@ninline2000]

I actually guessed 20 sheets for the .357 and 24 for the .44 magnum. Not really surprising that the rounds didn't expand, the drywall is too soft to cause the rounds to mushroom. Considering how a .22 can punch through drywall you have to know these high power rounds can really penetrate.

[@hanc37]

It proves that magnums are not good for home defense unless you live alone and don't have any neighbors nearby.

[@honkie247]

The drywall, like clothing, plugged the hollow cavity in the bullets. A more fair test would have been pistols with equal barrel length. The 357 has a two inch longer barrel. Also, the 357 round was a light bullet (150 grains) and the 44 mag was a heavy bullet (240 grains). A more equal test would be to use a 185 grain bullet in the 44 and use equal length barrels. Too many variables to call a true winner.

[@everettyost8639]

Standard bullet weights are 158 and 240.

[@timclaus8313]

@@everettyost8639 Certainly drywall will clog the cavity if it doesn't start to expand immediately.

[@yellowboxster06]

Very informative. I'm left with the impression there's only a minimal difference between the two rounds...at least in that medium. So between the two revolvers, from a practical sense, I'd pick the 8-round version of Ruger .357 Mag and leave the .44 Mag to those protecting themselves against bears.

[@adventureswithrick8032]

Barrel length makes a huge difference in velocity!

[@davidkeith1499]

Amazing that the 357 kept up with the 44 that well.

[@jblack1326]

as Joe Sikora pointed out. If barrel length had been the same, the 44mag would have gone quite a bit further. I willing to bet that my BFR 45/90 with 500 grain solids would have made both of those little guns look quite inadeguate.

[@LoreFoundry]

357 the best caliber.

[@beyproctor7673]

Good video idea! I once toured a business that fitted bullet proof panels into cars! Awesome stuff. Your family is lucky to have you testing the technology. Oh yeah, I think the lack of expansion made for a better test. Those unexpanded hollow points penetrated much more than if they had mushroomed. Better test the next idea using fmj just to be sure.

[@SupremeShuckle]

Space the sheetrocks an inch apart and see how many that .44 Red Wristbreaker can get through. Maybe try brass solid extreme penetrator .44 rounds just for funsies.

[@smartass6071]

The dry wall was back to back. It would have gone through many more if the dry wall was spaced out like a normal wall with 4'' studs. Provided you didn't hit a stud. At 17 layers it could potentially go through 8 or more rooms if it didn't hit a stud.

[@chrischalkley8571]

Was going to post that if walls had spacing the bullet would have lost momentum between walls

[@donbearden1953]

How thick was a piece of this drywall? It comes in different thicknesses so it would be interesting to know!

[@greenhometony]

Looks like 1/2 inch

[@davelowets]

@@greenhometony yup, same

[@willnewberry8369]

I'm surprised, never thought they'd go that far . Good job , thank you.

[@JJGuccione]

Great VDO •. What about a 9 mm +P with flat nosed hard cast bullets? How many sheets of drywall?

[@ronsimpson143]

I swear, if I hear him say, "two holes out the back," one more time, I might lose it. He didn't need to say that EVERY TIME.

[@eileenheitman4351]

No shit....move it along, Jack!!

[@811stever]

Pretty cool test... I guessed 18, and was thinking too bad the barrels weren't the same length but it looks like it didn't make a big difference. Another test would be a drywall-Stud-drywall stack up.

[@patrickcarmichael235]

A proper test would use same barrel lengths in the revolvers, same precise fixed rest, same weapon maker, same ammo manufacturer. Peace-good video

[@josepha.lagudijr.1096]

Very interesting my friend but you need to mention the thickness of the drywall if I remember correctly here in New York we have three different sizes.....

[@brianklamer3328]

I enjoyed seeing the recoil comparison between the two calibers when you held the revolvers with one hand.

[@LoreFoundry]

That 44 really looked like it broke the wrist in slow motion.

[@rascal0175]

Blast the Clay Men. They got it coming. You know, Flash Gordon had issues with the Clay Men so you’re not the first.

[@drunkencracker8517]

Flash!!!!!!!!!!!! Ahhhhhhh savior of the universe

[@rascal0175]

@@drunkencracker8517 That’s our boy, circa 1930 something or other.

[@jamesharvey446]

Everyone is an expert. The test should have been with barrel lengths of equal length. Velocity is directly related to barrel length. I am surprised that the hollow point did not expend more. A solid would have penetrated further. Same as the guy below.

[@douglasroseveare7295]

Since they are different caliber and bullet weight it really doesn't matter what the muzzle velocity is because the energy would never be the same without a severely down loaded 44 round and a heavily uploaded 357. At the same time there is still a ton of powder that is burning after a 44 bullet leaves a barrel twice that length or even a 357 for that matter. The only way to get it exactly the same muzzle velocity even with the same length barrel would be to move the line for one gun or the other so that the velocity is the same on impact. In which case the energy of the 44 would be way more. Because, as I am sure you know, bullet weight and velocity are the 2 factors in determining energy. I was surprised how little the difference in penetrating power was with a point blank shot though. Obviously the 44 would still be hitting harder even with the shorter barrel so the diameter of the bullet creates more drag in the drywall. In a defensive situation I wont be taking long to decide my 357 will take care of business.

[@jamesharvey446]

I shot high-power pistol Silhouette for several years. Started with a 6" Python, I hit 31, and 18 fell. The 44 was better but nothing like the 7mmBR. What I was trying to state was that it was a poor comparison and generally unequal. In my opinion, the 44 can do everything the 357 can at about double the results.

[@douglasroseveare7295]

@@jamesharvey446 Right I understand what you were saying. The cartridges are not even in the same category really, regardless of barrel length. which only helps to a certain extent anyway. It would have to be a lot longer for all the powder to fully burn for either of these magnums and by then generally speaking with a magnum the bullet is long gone at 1400+feet per second out a 3 1/2" or a 6" barrel. This is a decent comparison as far as point blank penetration though. Not sure if there was ever any doubt which one has more energy because it is still a 240 grain bullet travelling roughly the same speed as a 150 grain bullet in this test even though the barrels are different. That is what I think the test is about rather than making sure the guns are the exact same dimensions. It isn't a level playing field to start with so why make sure the barrels are the same length?

[@shoppe99]

I believe a better test would be to have allowed 2 inches between each sheet of wallboard, you might find out that the bullets would go through more sheets. With the sheets pressed up against each other think it would take more energy to push the backside paper into the next sheet of wallboard. Obviously walls are not built with the wallboard stacked one next to the orher. I'd like to see another test with two by four studs with wallboard on each side.

[@yankeetraveler1118]

I concur. The space between would allow for greatly different energy trasfer as the drywall would be allowed to flex as well as not pushing the paper into the next sheet. Probably would not need a full two inches either. Just a 1x1 would do the trick.

[@ONEYEDPiRAT]

Do you have any idea how heavy drywall is you have to reinforce the walls and everything the screws from the outer layer would have to go all the way into a wooden structure and the ceiling might even have to have bolts with metal bracing on the outside for all that drywall you're safe room would become your tomb as it collapsed in on you

[@billbright1755]

Gypsum board, or drywall, they use that stuff in cement to control cure rate in concrete. Early bullet proof jackets, before Kevlar, were lined with it but results were disappointing. Jacket had to be so thick wearer couldn’t move.

[@dudley5658]

Everyone said I was crazy for putting 24 layers of dry wall throughout my house. Who cares if the bed no longer fits.

[@jorgemelchorgreco1813]

For safety I think is better to use bricks. May be with 24 layers you can stop a revolver bullet but not an assault rifle one.

[@davelowets]

@@jorgemelchorgreco1813 Can't understand sarcasm?? 🤷🏻

[@jonathanrogers9961]

Rather than regular drywall, or the bulletproof drywall (fiberglass boards), what about Cement board like they use in bathrooms for shower stalls? I would think it would be a LOT denser and slow the bullets down a lot more. maybe alternating layers of cement board and drywall.

[@raysmetzer3153]

I agree I bet it would cut the number of layers in half. So curious I may do it myself

[@davelowets]

Your house would collapse from the weight required to stop the bullets

[@raymondparks4734]

A super Redhawk with a 8 inch barrel in 44mag may have carried a few more sheets of dry wall.

[@Casey773]

That's what I thought too.

[@drewgrows7765]

I am going to start on my 20 sheet drywall Safe Room right away. I assume I will not need to put any fiberglass insulation in between?

[@barrybarlowe5640]

Use multiple layers of drywall and ceramic tile. make sure you offset the tile grids on each layer. My son suggested water, but you need like, 4'feet of water between your wall layers. That's almost as bad as the Kevlar bonded drywall. My wife suggested poured concrete. If it was marine grade concrete, that might work.

[@liverpool6380]

20 sheet of drywall probably cost more than the bulletproof 😂

[@bobburnitt5389]

Yes and one must think of the LOAD on the flloor and walls.

[@waynebowman2315]

Love the big dog 44s , very surprised with both bullets performance though

[@PaulWolfe1]

Revealing one layer at a time was stupidly fascinating, loved the suspense.

[@reddenitup]

No…just Stupid ..and boring…suspense?? 😂

[@mbjasondify]

How to make a 2 minute last 4 hours.

[@keesgroup8977]

Can you do a drywall test with 454 Casull and the 500 Smith and Wesson?

[@oldpreach]

Hollow point ammo for a test to see how much drywall you can get through?

[@eatmagnumrevolver3048]

As someone who has Handloaded both the .357 and .44 REM Magnum for over thirty-five years here are a few points to consider. I Handload for over thirty Rifle and Pistol calibers. First you notice the excessive drywall penetration (More on this later) As far as JHP expansion, drywall is a very poor medium Proper HP and JHP bullet design expansion requires “hydraulic impact” on the HP and JHP to institute and complete full expansion. These bullet types are designed to enter human and/or animal targets where the bullets will impact soft blood infused organs and tissues providing expansion and energy release to reach the desired effect on the body and nervous system. Back to the drywall….the JHP bullets became “plugged” with drywall material and became non-performing JHP bullets. A word about calibers for home protection As you can see, if you live with homes close by Magnum Handgun calibers are a poor choice (Unless you hate your neighbors) because of over-penetration, on wood and stucco homes even the low pressure 230gr. 45 A.C.P. Ball or JHP can easily pass into and through your neighbor’s home next door. A more responsible choice for the home guard is the 9MM or .38 Special and you are less likely to kill your neighbors’ dog or children. If all you have are.357 and .44 Magnum revolvers seriously consider loading .38 Special and .44 Special loading's in them for home defense…much safer for everyone in the Hood’ (Remember, you WILL BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR DISCHARGES, in defense of home or not)

[@bobburnitt5389]

Or use a shotgun. Cheap alternative for Safe Room....... SAND BAGS!!! The abrasion is murder on projectiles. Of course sand bags will take up a lot of ROOM, but they WORK and are CHEAP.

[@davidd6854]

Very impressed with the .357. I figured around 10 sheets for both

[@gtwolfe100]

Would love to see a more real-world test of this type with a firearm. My focus is on pellet rifles and there is at least one good video where the test was done with sheets of drywall attached to 2x4 stud sections and then line up approximating actual walls of a house. It would be expected for the drywall stacked in this video to stop the rounds much faster than actual walls of a house where each 5/8" thick sheet is separated so that there is no progressive increase in resistance as material compresses in front of the round. The .22 caliber PCP air rifle punched thru something on the order of 8 sheets of drywall so I expect that if these were set up like actual framed wall sections the penetration would be at least 50% greater than in this test.

[@davidj2874]

I wonder if it makes a difference if the sheets of drywall are spaced with 2x4’s ? I’m not saying shoot through the 2x4’s just space the drywall sheets as a wall would be 🤷🏼‍♂️ I’m surprised at how many layers they went through

[@romanhardware]

Out of all the American made revolvers, which one is the best for CCW and home defense?

[@dnwiebe]

So the 44Mag starts with more interior-ballistics energy than the 357Mag, but transfers a smaller percentage of that energy to the bullet because of the shorter barrel, and the energy is sapped away from the bullet faster because it has to make a bigger hole. However, it looks like the 44Mag is enough stronger than the 357 that even those two handicaps can't beat it. Interesting.

[@InlinePaul]

I think you would have seen the .44 Magnum go deeper if it had as long a barrel as the .357 has. Looks like the .357 has about twice as long a barrel. You would also be able to compare recoil better with equal barrel lengths. No matter, the 44. Magnum certainly has a LOT more recoil than the .357.

[@stevencoppess3351]

My 357 has a 3 1/2 barrel So longer the barrel , more power it has???

[@InlinePaul]

@@stevencoppess3351 to the point that you get more of the pressure to continue accelerating the bullet, yes, more power will be pushing the bullet instead of making a huge (and fun) muzzle flash. 3.5 inch is decent for a carry revolver. Some ammo companies make ammo specifically to work well in shorter barrels. I don't now what the best barrel length is, maybe depends on what you are shooting. Rifles have much longer barrels and send bullets at pretty high velocity.

[@roberthooper8883]

Considering the price difference in the weapon, ammo, the fact that .44 is not "fun" to shoot, and the fact that .357 will do ALMOST anything the .44 will, AND the fact that you can cheaply and easily shoot light load .38s out of the .357 all day and load it with the big .357 for serious/protection use- there is simply no comparison- a good quality .357 pistol is the only way to go.

[@johnmeyer5496]

@@roberthooper8883 if you have ever been in a grizzly situation you would be running for the exit using the 357 as a rock

[@roberthooper8883]

@@johnmeyer5496 That is a different subject. Of course ANY idiot - EVEN YOU - if you are in a situation with extremely large animals- you get the biggest and best. But since 99.947 percent of the time in life that is NOT THE CASE- then my comment still applies and is the most accurate statement.

[@brucejordan9073]

Is this a good comparison . Short barrel , long barrel. 't don't about small arms , but I do know about Tank barrels . The longer the barrel , the more the muzzle velocity , the more penetrating power. Would have inches more in barrel length of the two revolvers made a difference in the test results

[@TheREALMuad-dib]

This was really interesting. Taught me that the penetration difference between 357 and 44 really isn't all that different and hollow points out of high power revolver loads aren't really going to do what they're supposed to do.

[@s9plus20]

Nice guns! Very interesting results, I didn't expect that outcome. I too expected around 7 or 8 deep. It would be really interesting to see the exact same test with a 9mm, 380 and 22 from pistols, perhaps 45 and 40 too. Lots of people carry 9mm and 380, I would especially like to see those results.

[@theantiveganchannel3596]

meh a cellphone lithium battery can stop a bullet completely 9mm

[@AnAZPatriot]

Now imagine how much power that. 44 would have had had a full sized barrel been used. I doubt that stack would have stopped it out of a 5 to 7 incher. Short answer: your house isn't stopping either of these rounds in any case.

[@regsparkes6507]

I would have bet those bullets would stop at 9 or 10 sheets for 357 and maybe 12 to 14 for the .44! That's penetration for ya! I do enjoy these tests, when we can see exactly what happens. Maybe, if you can, the next time you do this test, you can have brand new bullets to put beside the fired one's so we can really see what happens to each.

[@jssomewhere6740]

3/8s, 1/2, 5/8s if you want a safe room drywall layer sheet metal in-between.

[@Redhawk_44]

Loved this video, I have both of these guns. Keep up the great work!