How much powder to load??? - chronograph

[@levelup1279]

This video greatly demonstrates the law of diminishing returns. By going from 50 grain to 100 grain you did a 100% jump in fire powder. But by going 100 to 150, you only did a 50% increase, & the relative velocity increase almost perfectly matched that. Amazing video & demonstration!

[@10-4CodyWade]

Energy varies with velocity squared. There are no diminishing returns demonstrated here.

[@marineastro]

@@10-4CodyWade going from 50 grains to 100 grains results in roughly 2.9x the energy(1322/781)^2. Going from 100 grains to 150 grains results in roughly 1.5x the energy(1606/1322)^2. There are diminishing returns for both velocity and energy

[@10-4CodyWade]

@@marineastro Which load was the most efficient at converting the chemical energy into kinetic energy?

[@kirkboswell2575]

NICE. You answered a question for a whole lot of people. Black powder (pyrodex, 777, etc) will give more speed with more powder only up to a certain point. After that, you are just wasting powder. Some of the old timers would shoot over fresh snow to determine what their maximum charge was. Oh, as an FYI, when using the ramrod, you should be holding it about 6 inches or so above the barrel. Working from the end risks snapping the rod in two - risk of stabbing your hands with the broken rod. Your rod looked like it was an unbreakable style, so you are fine, but wood rods need to be held and used lower down.

[@Normjohanson]

You could, but longer barrels are needed and it’s not worth it

[@garytrainer748]

I am by nature a little critical on people who do this sort of thing in an "unprofessional" manner. And i want to criticize you for not turning on chrono ( or at least editing that part out). But i can't do it. You are so damned likeable and down to earth, the fact you didn't bother to edit it ended up making it even better! And has caused me to look at things a little differently. Thank you. And thanks for sharing the info.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching Gary

[@dennisedwards8954]

His presentation was similarly bothering me, at first then, I thought, "This guy's 'real'."

[@garytrainer748]

@@dennisedwards8954 Indeed he is. I have been a faithful follower ever since. Lol.👍👍

[@WHOTEEWHO]

🙏🙏🙏 thanks Gary

[@garytrainer748]

@@poikelos6291 you don't read very carefully. And your commenting on old news. Did you realize i posted a comment after the original one? How long have you been faithfully following Who Tee Who? I almost didn't respond because its old and water under the bridge. But what the hell. If your going to troll i might as well oblige you. Smug remark from someone who doesn't know me. Having a bad day? Take it out on random person. Just bored? Or just THAT guy? Hmmmm? Lol!😂😂 what a putz. Umm... Duh... See if you can do better.😂😂😂👏 Oh my. You sure burned me down there!😂😂

[@robertfoote3255]

Most muzzle loaders "run out" of barrel to utilize a 150grn charge. I have found that after 120grns the charge is very minimal, and it makes more noise and smoke than it's worth. 120grns of loose pyrodex and a 405grn mini ball is the "sweet spot" for my Old .54 Hawkens. It hits like a buss and shoots a constant group with that combo. 👍 Marking the ram rod for your preferred loading is a good idea. Keeps your loading consistent from shot to shot. This keeps the advantages in your your favor. Muzzleloaders are like any rifle, the more consistent you load it the more predictable it is. Good luck WhoTeeWho!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks Robert

[@timtrzil5098]

Here in NC, muzzle loading season has been going on for a couple of weekends now. I use the same pellets (2x 50 gram), primer, and bullets (I use a CVA Optima from 2006). 2 Saturdays in a row yielded a harvest (1 buck and one doe respectively). Each at 97 yards. The only thing I am thinking about changing is possibly the bullet. As neither exited the deer. The buck was hit in the shoulder and the doe was spine shot. Thank God the buck circled back to me. Crazy blessed! He dropped 50 yards away from me. (Huge blessing as there was NO exit wound and therefore, no blood trail). The doe dropped is her tracks. Blessed on that one as well because again, no exit wound. I think the 245 grain, although retention weight and expansion were phenomenal they did not exit. Thinking about using a heavier weight bullet. But, that will be next season as rifle opens this Saturday... Who_Tee_Who!

[@northeasthunter7658]

It's not just about muzzle velocity. At 100 grains of pyrodex I used to have a problem with sabots not expanding. Instead, they just lasered a hole through the deer leaving a very small wound channel. Since I switched to 150 grains I'm getting much better expansion and and a much greater wound channel. My deer usually drop within 40 yards now.

[@Nobodyspecial5150]

I use 150 in my cva works perfect.

[@mariolofaro8330]

Thank you! I'm about to clean and fire my Black Diamond for the first time. I bought the it used at a local sports shop.

[@Wertyingf]

Seems to me like 100 grains was your best result. I shoot a old style muzzle loader with 110 grains of loose pyro DeX and a 190 grain round ball and believe me that thing is deadly.

[@johnburks2780]

Your Chanel is by far the best I have found for real life ballistics science and fun keep up the good work

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Really appreciate you watching John!

[@gunsncars469]

My father in law got me a cva wolf 209 .50 cal. for Xmas back in 2004. We're in northern Michigan near the bridge, so it was about 20 degrees out. We go to the outdoor range to sight it in. Was my first (and only) muzzle loader. He had barrel wipes soaked in melted butter, they were almost like wax and he had me clean the barrel after each shot just to get me used to it. He had me shooting the full 150 load (3 pellets). My shoulder was so sore after about 10 rounds, I thought I could push the stock a little forward on the next shot. Wow big mistake lol. My nose was running, fingers numb and painful, but it was a memory I'll never forget..... btw, cool vid, thumbs up as always.

[@gunsncars469]

@RichardEvans-ns7hj We live down state 45min N.E. of Detroit, but the range and what used to be my father-in-law's place is in Atlanta Mi. He passed in 2011, and we've just kept up on it.

[@gunsncars469]

@RichardEvans-ns7hj Map shows a little over an hour, but we usually make it in 45-55min

[@randlerichardson5826]

I love muzzle loader hunting now. Best time of the year I thank

[@MatthewSutberry]

I've actually always used the 150 powder with aerotip powerbelts 185gr. I'd be interested to see chrono reading for these same powder loads but with the lighter powerbelt.

[@markkaufman9758]

Interesting results. That chronograph has been put through a lot of use at the range. Enjoyed watching your video.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching Mark!

[@nataliedeyton6829]

I shoot 2 pellets and always wandered what the difference would be using 3. 2 has always worker very very well. Season starts Saturday in NC can’t wait.

[@vielumiereg9794]

*loads 2 charges* “That almost doubled the speed! I’m surprised” Well yes, you did in fact, double the charge, so why wouldn’t it double the speed lol.. I’m just givin ya a hard time man, cool video. I’m not into modern black powder guns, but I do enjoy the old caplocks and flintlocks

[@Leverguns50]

Nothing I can get all muzzleloader, you got a love it lock stock and barrel, at least that one’s not just gonna be a flash in the pan like you sometimes get out of a flintlock

[@paulatudor691]

I have the knight muzzle loader it shoots both pellets or grains powder ( Black) I shoot with 150 first shots and 100 grains in quick loaders

[@bladerunnermonty761]

150 Gran is use in a muzzle loader that says on the barrel you can use Magnum loads (Mag) . That is to be safe.

[@mikecup212]

Great video, I looking to buy my first muzzleloader, but the 209 primers are no where to be found, unreal there’s a shortage. I will have to wait to see if they ever come back.

[@cory8791]

Great vid!!! Can’t wait for the gel test maybe some paper plates?

[@carlwillden3994]

Good video I also use 100 grains of powder as it is the best accuracy I get , I use Triple x powder as it is cleaner burning and makes reloading much easier than with pyrodex also using power belts gets great accuracy . My Thompson center hates sabots they foul the barrel with plastic

[@danielrivers1975]

In case you didn’t know, pyrodex pellets contain black powder to aid in ignition. That’s why the strong sulfur (rotten egg) smell. If you were to use a powder substitute such as triple 7 you’d have far less fouling.

[@russellkeeling4387]

I don't agree with that. I find the black powder I make burns much cleaner than all the sugar based factory powders.

[@dalesearcy5734]

The reason that 150 grains didn't produce that much more speed is that part of the powder was burning after the bullet left the barrel. 100 grains is plenty.

[@brandonburgos8074]

I found you looking up info about my new .50 cal black powder rifle clicked on your video, watched the whole thing and went to subscribe and realized I already did a long time ago hahaha. Thanks bud!!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching Eric. I recognize your name. Appreciate you watching. Another muzzleloader video out tomorrow

[@brandonburgos8074]

I’ll be waiting!

[@benjaminjarrett9816]

An excellent example of the principle of diminishing returns. Thank you for sharing

[@jeffreystieve8017]

Nice job. WOuld have been interesting to see where the bullets (balls) hit at 50, 100 or even 75 yards with the different loads?

[@mrhamburger6936]

Savage made a bolt-action Muzzleloader and 50 caliber it could fire smokeless or black powder would be interesting to chronograph one firing smokeless powder

[@beekeeper8474]

Just ordered my cva and here to learn thanks

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Awesome

[@SgtAwesome97]

Love my muzzle loader, got myself a Traditions Lightning in .50 cal using a #11 musket cap. Shooting about 90 grains of powder with a 240 or 250 grain, can't remember which, .45 in a sabot. Pretty darn accurate, when I'm not the problem aiming lol need to work on my aim more. Doesn't kick too bad either, though I think it's the muzzle break I should thank for that.

[@rileymousseau4272]

Can you do a review on the powerbelt bullets? I have heard they don’t expand most of the time. Maybe through a piece of plywood then into a gel block.

[@stevenhigby3512]

Great video I have always wanted one of those. I have never seen the powder like that before.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching Steven!

[@robertlewis4666]

Those pellets seem a tad "soft" to me. I only shoot muzzle loaders and I use a Lyman Maxi (soft lead bullet of 245 grains which I cast myself), in my .45 CVA Firebolt. 70 grains 2F local powder consistently delivers 1600 fps - usually a bit more.

[@keitha2675]

big question is chrono of pellet powder vs loose powder. I shoot 100 grains of Pyrodex RS with a 325 Maxi ball

[@thrillbilly6147]

WhoTee ThAnks for Chronograph data and your always entertaining channel sir Thrillbilly

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching Thrill Billy!

[@jasonbeason4780]

Great video. My only thing is how you used the ramrod on the 50 grain. This is me and how I load my muzzy. I take the ramrod when I have the lead as far down as I can push and then I pull the rod up about 3 inches and start throwing the rod ( smacking tamping the bullet) down packing the round until the ramrod bounces back up. When the bullet isn't down the rod will not bounce back up. I use the powder still. But once the round is down and has the powder packed and bullet set the rod will bounce back up. That's just how I do it and its saves my hand. I use 80 grain powder and a hornady sst that weighs in at 250. I don't shot over 150 feet either so. Works well for me. Just some of my ways. Not saying you did anything wrong. Just telling you my way. Hope it helps. God bless and have a great day

[@chubbethsthunder]

That was a very fun comparison. Thank you very much. Electrocuted by your truck battery and I read toady on your Instagram that you fell 20 feet setting up a tree stand. I know you are very busy but please slow down a little and be very careful. You are very bless you didn't get hurt or killed. Have a blessed week. GOD Bless you and your beautiful family.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Yup I'm a nut. Always in a hurry

[@chubbethsthunder]

@@WHOTEEWHO I was the same way when I was younger then a few things happened that made me slow down and be a lot more careful. Just take 10 seconds longer to overview things that will make a a big difference. Take Care!!!

[@tasaman]

@@chubbethsthunderyou ain’t lying. It’s a wonder how some of us are still here. I shot my ramrod out of my ML because I got in too much of a hurry. Got the scar to prove it.

[@user-bi5if1ip6t]

Awesome muzzle loading shooting. Everybody needs at least one muzzle loader for the whole experience. I won’t mess with loads more than 50.

[@randlerichardson5826]

I got mine cleaned up awhile ago I just shot it once. Be safe and GOD BLESS.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Hey Randle!

[@JimiBones]

I wanna get a muzzleloader. These videos make me wanna look into cleanliness of em lol. Milk jug test would be awesome too and paper plate Ball vs those nice rounds you got. Also a Black Powder vs Pyrodex would be cool too.

[@billmelater6470]

Fouling just comes with the territory. I'm not sure about how in-lines are used but I shoot patched round ball, so my bore is always coated in lube which helps keep the fouling soft. My bore doesn't start to tighten up really until about the 3rd or 4th load depending on my powder charge. When that happens, I just get a patch damp (not wet) with moose milk and run it up and down a few times and then dry it out really well and continue with my day.

[@johns3153]

@@billmelater6470 i have CVA in line buck-horn i got 5 shots before needing cleaning but that's with clean burning pellets called IMR White Hots Pellets but using regular i can do 3 shots

[@martinbenton742]

Depending on what I'm shooting, round ball, Buffalo Ballets, or Great Plains, I use between 60-110 grains of powder in the rolling block, 50 cal.

[@richsadventure9736]

Remember to put the dark end of the powder pellets facing the breach 👍

[@supernova6177]

I'm just worried that 150 grains might blow my gun up because it's a 1999 cva eclipse hunter. I'm just worried it won't be able to handle the extra hot load and pressures.

[@jamespugh]

AWSOME video. Might be able get some faster speed with lighter sabot. Love the inline muzzeloader another option for deer hunting in a shotgun area. Run few patches down the gun when cleaning and fire a cap through it with the ram rod and patch down gun when cleaning. Cant wait to see ballistic gel test.

[@10-4CodyWade]

I'm surprised at all the comments about diminishing returns. That principle is not demonstrated here whatsoever. Gun powder is chemical energy, not velocity. When going from 100 to 150 grains there was a 50% increase in powder and a 48% increase in muzzle energy. What exactly is diminishing? That is a very efficient return if you ask me. The reason there was a difference with the first load is probably due to reduced efficiency from lower heat and pressure. It had 50% as much powder compared to the 100 grain load but only 35% as much energy.

[@MuzzleMike]

I was just scanning yt missing muzzle loader season and came across this . So cool . I use a flint lock myself. The PA pellet .

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Hey muzzlemike!!!

[@MuzzleMike]

@@WHOTEEWHO click bang !

[@leroymorris6036]

I know those muzzle loaders are a pain but I love just how straight they shoot...I think its that extra heavy barrel...?

[@RecoilAddict88]

The muzzle loader is ideal for people who like to spend time reloading, but it's still nice to have, great gun & video.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching!

[@thesuccessfulbarber]

There's only one reason why I would ever use this weapon, because I get to go out 10 days early on deer season. It's a big pain in the ass

[@elvyfoster7455]

During the Covid19 ammo shortage, shotgun shells were hard to come by around here unless it was #8 birdshot. So I started to improvise for getting more home defense ammo. Using the #8 birdshot I purchased and a mini cutting knife I was able to open up the shell head to let me either put in slingshot steel shot or the powerbelt 245 grain bullets from Walmart. The steel shot I would use gasket material to make a new cover for the head of the shell. For the 245 grain bullet I just used some of the sticky slime from the toy aisle. Put about an 8th of an inch of the slime into the wad cup place the 245 grain bullet into that and then let it dry. It holds the bullet to the wad cup while shooting it and dislodges when it hits the target item.

[@tasaman]

Why didn’t you just make a cut shell? Better than doing all that.

[@dentonsbackyardshow1013]

When season was over last 2 years when walmart clearnced out the stock on muzzle loader items i cleaned them out

[@hansorsic7387]

same

[@bigbuckfreak5087]

Do your research first before you run a heavy load like that every gun is different

[@winndixie6361]

@@bigbuckfreak5087 that is so true!! Not all loaders can handle 3 pellets. Very very good remark sir..

[@bigbuckfreak5087]

@@winndixie6361 watched my buddies blow up in his face with 3 pellets

[@dennisedwards8954]

@@bigbuckfreak5087 Was actively thinking the same.

[@alex16194]

Going for my first muzzleloader white tail hunt in a few hours!

[@mullisoutdoors]

About what I was going for on the one I just bought. 2 pellets will be about perfect for me. Going to try some sabboted 44 mag bullets close to the same weight as those. Thanks for a great video brother!!👊🏼👊🏼😁😁

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Awesome

[@dennis7470]

I have same rifle, and the same problem with the primers. It came with a small metal bar that reaches in to remove the things, however---- the scope is in the way to put new ones in. I end up pointing the thing at the ground and let gravity help a bit.

[@theprfesssor]

The 50 grain load had about 330 ft/lbs of energy 100 grade load had nearly doubled the speed and thanks to physics this means it nearly triples the energy to over 945 pounds ft/lbs The 150 grain charge is a jump but the law of diminishing returns is kicking in a 50% jump in powder yet only a 20% increase in speed, ends at 1390 ft/lbs of energy This shows why smokeless powder was such a big deal , to put into perspective the 50 and 100 grain loads are in handgun levels of power, even the 150 grain charge was still quite a bit weaker then average 30-30 loads and less then half the foot pounds of a 30-06 load even though both those rounds use much lighter bullets

[@gunman-6646]

Hey bro, just watched your live feed of you playing the guitar. It wouldn't let me comment, but hey, that was awesome! Thanks

[@1pjlewis2]

I am guessing that your barrel is 20 inches long. The old muzzle loaders needed a longer barrel to consume all the powder. So a 28" inch or 30" barrel would have a much faster speed.

[@unbalancedredneck5778]

Law of demising returns seems to come into play after 100gr. The 100 gr load is more than enough to quickly drop any Deer. I still use a patched round ball in an old side lock only using 60 gr of fff powder and have never had an issue dropping Deer.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Absolutely

[@jjohnston94]

A 245 grain bullet at 781 is like a .44 Special or a .45 ACP. A 245 @ 1322 is like a .44 magnum. A 245 @ 1606 is like a .44 magnum fired from a rifle. Just for comparison.

[@bestestusername]

Lol, Paul had a good laugh when you graph was not on. 100 is the best

[@blackpressurecartridgesolu9028]

Low Pressure 50 Caliber Smokeless Loads in a 209 Factory Muzzleloader, 2 DVD set | eBay These 2 DVDs contain a demonstration of using Low Pressure Smokeless Loads in a 50 caliber factory muzzleloader, that are equal to or less pressure than that of Blackhorn209.

[@R4MT1]

Great experiment Who_Tee_Who. Keep them coming. 👍👊🏻🇺🇸💥💥💥

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching R4!

[@awbernardy]

That is very cool... I often wondered what 1 pellet would do... wonder what one of the 777 magnum pellet would do think they are like 60 or per pellet .... awesome video

[@user-SgtArmoroldtanker]

Just wondering why you don't use a bullet starter? I have tried to load mine without one before but I almost broke my ram rod, after that happened, I've used the bullet starter every since then.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Dont have a bullet starter. Plus that is just more to carry around

[@user-SgtArmoroldtanker]

@@WHOTEEWHO looks like you really don't need one anyway, you don't seem to have the problems I did. Might be because my Hawken rifle is almost as long as I am tall 🤣

[@Raptor-gd6sk]

I’m gonna do 150 Grains of powder because I can 😂😂😂😂.. interesting video.. Thanks for sharing 👍

[@WHOTEEWHO]

😜😜😜

[@brockwagner939]

I have that same muzzleloader, old cva. Was 150$ brand new. Good luck finding one for that price these days

[@videosYOUenjoy]

Exactly what gun is this

[@brockwagner939]

CVA hunterbolt magnum

[@lunkertime]

Awesome Right to the point 50 Grains is good enough for 50 to 100 yards to knock a deer down no trouble perfect bud,, Now i want to find the most affordable bullet them Power bells are to pricey for me

[@bladerunnermonty761]

Keep throwing the rod down in the barrel until you get a good bounce 😉😁 back up out of the barrel .

[@stevec9625]

You’re correct. It looked to me like he didn’t seat the bullet properly on the last shot. If the bullet is not firmly seated the powder will detonate not deflagrate and that could be a bad thing.

[@bobcatforever3485]

Good video. That was interesting and informative. Good job!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching Bobcat!

[@JimmyHinton]

I moved to the country little over 3 months now. This morning I was going to work I hit a deer with my Jeep Wrangler. It hit my winch was a 5 point. Like change underpants at 3 a.m.

[@johnburks2780]

If you have access to a 10 GA for a slow motion ballistics gel test I'll send the ammo needed to conduct the test and I do know that one gel block won't stop the round but it would still be very interesting to see the temporary and permanent cavitation from it....... BTW thank you for being kind enough to take the time to talk to your fans I'm subscribed to several different channels on here and you are the only one that takes the time to comment and talk to us

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Appreciate your comments bigtime! I answer every single one! Unfortunately I dont have access to a 10 guage right now :(

[@baboonbuttz]

i have an old huntsman run 120gr 777 ff w/ 250gr hornady sst-ml lowdrag, remington kleanbore primers excellent out to 320yds so far longest harvest shot i've sighted out to 450yds.

[@austingroves2920]

Great video! Love you kept the untested shot!

[@Colt-sv8fz]

Love my muzzleloader the state I live in is only shotgun or muzzleloader and I use my muzzleloader all the time and I use my fingers to put the power cakes in I never had a problem good luck with deer hunting

[@jaredpeterson380]

Blackhorn 209. Only way to go. Non corrosive, doesn't absorb water, much higher pressures and velocity, greater range, easy cleanup, no crud rings, but pretty expensive.

[@tobytoofast]

What you think about a sabot hollow point out of a Knight Disc with a magnum charge for 150yrd shots?

[@bsellers711]

I guessed 1200 for 2 pyrodex pellets. Close haha! Thanks for risking your brow again for our entertainment brother.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching!!!

[@davesmith1771]

Awesome. I don't hunt or use black powder, but this is my favorite video so far. I like learnin' me sumthin'.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

I wanted to see what would happen

[@kevingramling5443]

Alittle bore butter would help you alot, my 5 foot long flintlock gets hard to load after 2 shots hence the bore butter makes reloading faster an you don't have to fight the ramrod

[@scottcooksey5284]

Definitely help the overall outcome. Much more consistent velocities. I'm thinking the 20 gauge brush he ran down through there probably help the second shot he did not do that on the third shot so he didn't see quite the same percentage of velocity increase.

[@Gustavo6.5]

This is about to be a really fun video

[@razony]

That was fun and informative !

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching!

[@aegismerc9718]

Day or 2 before your hunt, go out and fire one round, reload and you'll be dead nuts on for that big buck. If you don't want to mess with blackhorn 209 powder, try some triple seven pellets. About 10% hotter than pyro. Sounds like you have some fanbois on the highway.

[@lsoutdoors2354]

Love powder season

[@truspirit1925]

I use powder instead of pellets....it's just more traditional and funner ...that's my opinion...I don't use a scope either...it's just open sight and powder...I also use the side mount percusion cap rifle instead of the inline modern shotgun style.

[@rodneyhanbaum697]

120gr Black Horn 209! You can't go wrong, maybe try a different bullet with a sabot, Hornady,Barnes,Nosler. I honestly believe you will get better consistency and also with the BH209 not even close to the cleaning hassle and definitely way more than one shot before patching the barrel! Give it a try, I think you will be pleasantly pleased!!!

[@rodneyhanbaum697]

Thank you!

[@scottf.3808]

Very good testing as dig the results....Good stuff....

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching Scott!

[@wantedin50]

For it usally depends in the rifle. My wife cva bobcat does well. With 70 grains with round ball.

[@TheIconicFisherman]

I use 100 grains by volume of loose triple seven black powder substitute in my muzzleloader which is the equivalent of 77.77 grains by weight and that seems to work for me just fine.

[@phattslangdon6559]

I'm a traditional hunter i have quite a collection of Hawken rifles in other muzzleloader. Please don't ever lean your body over the ramrod if that had a spark of any kind left your hurt or dead.

[@Larry-tl6vw]

Thank You WHO-TEE.. This video showed me what a been wondering, now i don’t need 3 Powder Pellets to hunt deer….Great video…

[@WHOTEEWHO]

thanks for watching Larry

[@heyitsaluigi]

My rod is color coded in measurements for each pellet of powder...Green for 1 pellet, Yellow for 2, RED for 3. Let’s me see how far the rod “should be” going in....just a trick I like🤡 “Team7MRM”🙃

[@mattbutler4904]

Watching u load that second round was painful lol use some bore butter or gun grease it works great

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Work with what I have. Everything costs money 😆

[@pensnut08]

2:16 in. I'm guessing 950 fps for 50 grains, 1750 for 100 grains and 2050 fps for 150 grains. I was off by a bit.. LOL I think if you had newer pellets you may get more fps. Heck, have some fun, shoot em up and try some Hornadys! Great video!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching!!!

[@john-paulsilke893]

My guess was 800-1,200-1,400. I’m curious about the pellet stability as well. Not too sure how well they were stored or if they became less effective over time. My old business partner used to shoot a breech loading BP rifle but he didn’t use these pellets just substitute BP. Same bullet and 209 shotgun primers so that’s what informed my guess, (I remember him working up his ideal loads, it took some serious time to find the sweet spot, two or three range trips if I recall).

[@mikeDeSales943]

I am watching your muzzleloader videos because I bought a Sightmark Wraith 4k mini and I don't have anything else to put it on except for a muzzleloader, so I am going to start out with a 60 grain pellet shooting the green tip 245 grain powerbelt bullet you are shooting. I need to keep the recoil down to an equivalent of a .308 because that's all the 4k mini can handle. I can not find a foot per pound recoil table for muzzleloaders so it's unfortunately guess work. Do you happen to know the ft/lbs recoil at all of muzzleloaders?

[@phattslangdon6559]

Mi 45 Hawken Thompson Center Hawken rifle with a 300 grain Platinum powerbelt bullet within a hundred yards I do anywheres from 55 to 60 grains of loose powder if I go to 100 shoots Way High

[@tomcurran8470]

I didn't know you weren't supposed to touch the pellets. Then, how the heck do you load them? I've used trad flinters with BP so that's not hasn't been an issue. This season, I'm trying the scoped, modern ML. 110 grains of Holy Black in a flinter gives me 1" MOA. The recoil is more than a 30-06.

[@nathantoth4185]

In my cva pa pellet flintlock. With 20grs of 4f down the tube and 1 pyrodex pellet. And a 200gr Shockwave I got 1695fps. With just 1 pellet and 5 gr of 4ff I got 1410fps. Out my cva wolf with 3pellets and 200gr Shockwave I got 21 98. As the barrel got dirtier velocity started creeping up and maxed at 2267fps The pa pellet flintlock grouped the 200gr Shockwave and a 270gr fed bor-lok the best The wolf doesn't seam to care what it shoots it all groups well for me. Federal primers. Goex 4f

[@papasmurf8927]

Brother man please use bore butter. you can use it on your bullet and prelube your Barrel. You will see how much of a difference it makes reloading. You're welcome for the knowledge.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Everything costs money. Dont have bore butter

[@papasmurf8927]

@@WHOTEEWHO you can use crisco too if you have it . I thought you might want to know. Oh yeah thank you so much for the awesome videos buddy !!!

[@RedFoxRidge]

Hey man, thanks for doing this. BTW, those velocities come out to 331 ft/lbs, 951 ft/lbs and 1403 ft/lbs. So the first can't be used on deer, it's the same ballpark as a 9mm round. The second one is OK out to 40 yds, maybe, sorta like a 44 mag out of a 4 inch. And the last one is decent, for almost 100 yds. Something like a 44 mag round out of a long barrel revolver. Thanks again.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching

[@jreed10291974]

I love these people that say that cant be used for deer. I have killed a lot of deer with 45 colt 250 rnfp and 6.5 grains of red dot out to a 100 yards. Even more with a 45 cal prb and 60 grains 3ff Goex out to 150 yards they all die just as dead as the ones shot with a 30-06 none took another step.

[@arthurshingler2025]

100 grs. Seems to work well for me in 50 cal. Rifles, too. But Triple Seven. I use 45 cal. Hornady 250grs. XTP Pistol bullets.... Harvester ribbed sabots

[@eddiehuff7366]

@1:15...…..as a closet mathmetician and reloader I know I will enjoy this. 😁

[@WHOTEEWHO]

I knew some people would like this video. Really appreciate you watching!

[@dusty1987]

Thanks for the video just got a knight wolverine 209