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[@WHOTEEWHO]

Deals and discounts HERE: linktr.ee/whoteewho Which one is your favorite???

[@White000Crow]

357 3 screw and a lever action for compliment.

[@Learn2hunt]

I edc a fancied up gen3 G33. Ever since I saw the ballistic advantages over .40

[@JohnLloydScharf]

.357 Magnum is my favorite. Had you used the same brand, mass, and velocity - the outcome might have been different. Besides being reloaded off-brand, the larger mass used up the extra case capacity of the .357 mag over the Sig to hold the bullet. Given you the bullet, we do not know if the penetration was cut by excessive expansion.

[@bestestusername]

357 mag, as in Australia its easier to get in a lever action than a handgun

[@noname-wo8zp]

I've seen a lot of ballistics test on KZbin of course Big and slow hit hard Do a lot of damage Leaving all their energy in the target Faster bullets Go straight through and leave a smaller wound cavity

[@Brykk]

I hoped for years that 357sig would take off in popularity, but it never really did. It is a fantastic round that has some way better than average ballistics.

[@tommypackwood1013]

I've always liked the sig and hoped it would stay poplar enough to stay on shelves, but for some reason, it's sure hard to find and even more expensive. The .45acp is cheaper than the sig. ???

[@tommypackwood1013]

I've always liked the sig and hoped it would stay poplar enough to stay on shelves, but for some reason, it's sure hard to find and even more expensive. The .45acp is cheaper than the sig. ???

[@numbersletters3886]

Same, the 357 Sig is my EDC choice.

[@brianhall137]

The factory ammo is ridiculously expensive, but it's the cheapest round to reload other than 9mm...same bullet and just a little more powder. I carry a custom 1911 chambered in 357Sig.

[@bdr32965]

It really is a shame that .357 Sig didn't become more popular. Maybe somewhere in the future it will end up being the next 10mm, where it wasn't popular at first but make a roaring comeback.

[@grahamohea2424]

Huge .357 Sig fan here. The Glock 31 was one of the first Glocks I ever bought, the Glock 32 is prolly one of my favorite handguns ever, and I just picked up the Glock 33 to complete the trifecta. The .357 Sig results from this test didn't surprise me, but the magnums seemed a bit weaksauce

[@usa-rb5fi]

Do you carry the 31 or 32, I sometimes carry my 33, but have considered getting the 32 or similar size.

[@grahamohea2424]

@@usa-rb5fi Occasionally the G32. The G31 is a bit too large to be comfortable for my tastes, so it is firmly in range toy territory for me... I put night sights on all my defensive handguns, but for the G31, I just put on fiber optics. It also doesn't help that while I have IWB G19 holsters that can be used for both my G32 and my G23, I don't really have any IWB holsters for the G17/G22/G31 sized frames... I tend to reserve the full sized Glocks (in particular, the G17 and the G22) for home defense

[@thepatriotsrage661]

Unfortunately so are the .357Sig's nowadays. The 125gr .357Sig should be running at 1500fps from a 4". Period.

[@grahamohea2424]

@@thepatriotsrage661 That is sadly true and part of the reason why I started reloading .357 Sig. I don't think it suffers as much as 10mm masquerading as .40 S&W does with the pitiable "FBI Load" that is the standard loading, though

[@thepatriotsrage661]

@@grahamohea2424 Yes, indeed so Graham. That said I think all pistol loads could be hotter, if you follow CIP rather than SAAMI. The Brits were well known for running hot ammo, especially in 9x19 BHP's (I suspect SMG ammo) to prove the point. IMHO 125gr is the sweet spot for .357Sig and Magnum. Both perform extremely well in this weight. Oh... I reload .357Sig as well, it's piss easy, ridiculously so. That all said, I am primarily a 165gr .40 guy. The Speer GD, Cor-Bon JHP, Ranger T and Fed HST in this weight are outstanding performers. So naturally I reload 160/165gr .40 CMJ's.

[@sturisa]

.357 Magnum all day for me, have a Colt Python 6 inch barrel in blue steel from 1992!

[@dr.froghopper6711]

I used to have a Colt Trooper Mk III with an 8 3/8” barrel that I enjoyed shooting long range. The gun shot better than I did, lol! Then I got disabled and I didn’t have the hand/arm strength to really shoot it well. Needed money so I sold it. I sure wish I hadn’t. I really like the Taurus Adam was shooting here! 4” is a perfect length for daily carry in the woods or on a farm.

[@markgriffin9287]

Just got a colt trooper 357mag from my grandfather who passed and my dad who has passed away. 357mag I'd trust any day! And it makes a hole!

[@tylerrobbins8311]

😂 I'm the same age as that classic gun.

[@markgriffin9287]

@@dr.froghopper6711 just inherited one from my dad. Awesome gun!

[@PeterParker-hw5rv]

Got the king cobra 6 inch 357 from 90's

[@philrc1]

During the .357sig test, the two stacks of plates were tight against each other, during the Magnum test there was a good 2 or 3 inch gap. This would drastically effect the test in favor of the sig round. I call, "do over".

[@bruceallen6016]

This! Do over with two separate stacks of plates, one for each round.

[@bobmyers2514]

I think u should change the name of those custom 357 mag ammo from house of Payne to house of rip off ,1st one doing 1050 and then the 2nd 1 a hundred feet faster and those are 38+p speeds to boot

[@weldingjunkie]

LOL Stop its the same amount of material its not a controlled test

[@kdk2286]

Why would that matter? Neither made it through the first stack of plates.

[@pdog2448]

@@kdk2286 1st shot had more support, 2nd shot had less support which allows the 1st set of plates to move back. Less support, equals less penetration.

[@williamgaines9784]

The Sig was using a jacketed bullet going significantly faster. The magnum was using a plated bullet with the plating being much, much thinner than the Sig's jacket allowing it to deform and slow faster than the harder jacketed bullet. I am with you on liking both, although I don't have a 357 Sig.

[@codeward7249]

I'm pretty sure that the 357 Magnum was a reloaded round it was using a plated bullet as you can see that's why it was shining also the bottom was bulged out I only see that on reloaded ammo

[@anon2240]

Most plated bullets are limited to a maximum of 1200 fps.

[@williamgaines9784]

@@anon2240 The point was the Sig was shooting a harder bullet faster, even though the bullet was lighter. That the plated bullet has a limited velocity before it starts leading the bore was not the point.

[@anon2240]

@@williamgaines9784 With a similar jacketed bullet at 158 grains the 357 magnum is capable of launching it in the range of 1350 fps which increases the muzzle energy considerably. A 125 grain jacketed bullet in a 357 magnum is capable of 1500 fps.

[@bigbird5754]

Need to run the test with a 125gr FMJ in the 357. The current test was apples and oranges. This wasn't a true comparison. IMHO 😁

[@williamfrazier3822]

It amazes me how many people hate on the 357sig round. I researched it back in 1997 before buying it and was amazed at the ballistics and how they got it to perform. I went with a 226 and it's still my favorite semi-auto. After thousands of rounds down range, I still love the feel, power and ballistics of that round.

[@jonathandavis7810]

I appreciate you doing this video. I love 357 mag but my daily is a Glock 32 gen 4 in 357 SIG. Awesome content 👍🏽

[@joelmcmahan7386]

Both of these would be a fine caliber to have in a time of need. These videos show us all good information, even when boo lots are different we still get a idea of what is going on here. Thanks again WTW for great videos every day. 🎥👍💯🙏🏻

[@7tree1outdoors]

Man I love your channel cause it’s not over the top like a lot of gun channels! You keep it simple and to the point! Much respect from this ol west Tennessee boy!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Appreciate you watching

[@vincentcronin3361]

Hell yeah! glad to see an old school paper plates video again!

[@davidteague5461]

I love the plate test!!!! Glad u brought it back .

[@krazyrican2009]

That’s not surprising based on the faster velocities of the .357 Sig compared to the .357 magnum rounds used. Had you fired some 125 grain bullets out of the .357 magnum it may have been even with the .357 Sig.

[@YELLTELL]

Exactly my .357mag carry rounds are 1500fps at muzzle 1314@50yds & 1166@100yds

[@Robsksas]

ive been waiting patiently for this video!

[@sandoval1529]

🤯👀 What!!??? Awesome video! Keep em coming brother!!

[@donl4914]

Equaling out the bullet weights would have been better. A more accurate comparison of velocities. 125gr on both or 110gr. Both are available. Although the Sig would still have greater velocity as it's a rifled case, the 357 MAG is still the favorite for most as versatility. I load for myself 357 MAG, Still haven't made the commitment to go with the SIG. Next to do. Three-way with the SIG, MAG, and 9mm. Great Video!!! Been waiting to see more of this content again. 👍👍👍😉😉👍👍👍

[@jamiesloan7259]

It’s called a necked-down case. Not a rifled case. The .357 magnum is called a straight-walled case. The case has nothing to do with rifle, or pistol.

[@gspdavis]

Loading the same weight bullet will always result in the .357 Mag having more velocity. Providing they were both loaded to sammi specs.

[@jamiesloan7259]

@@gspdavis Yup. More case capacity.

[@kevincarter9921]

Very interesting brother. Glad to see you back on the air.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

I have had a new video every day for the past 2 years......

[@doomguy8447]

I own a few .357 mags and a few .357 sigs. That being said I love both rounds. The .357 sig is superior in my humble opinion. My custom p320 chambered in .357 sig has a capacity of 18 and fires at a much higher velocity. Its a 3.9" and still manages to push higher velocitys with simaler rounds than my .357 mag. Its honestly a none comparasson. I love .357 mag but unless you are talking about a coonan or something its antiquated compared to its younger brother. I also own a smith and wesson 2.0 in .357 sig a glock in .357 sig and my .357 mags are a taurus and a smith and wesson also a colt python. All great handguns. Honestly you are better off buying a 10mm and a .357 sig over a .357 mag but im just a random dumbass so take it with a grain of salt.

[@thepatriotsrage661]

That M&P 2.0 in .357Sig must be phenomenal! I have a 5" in 9x19.

[@thepatriotsrage661]

No dumbass, good to hear your take and experiences. What ammo do you carry in your .357's? I love all pistol calibers, but especially .40/10mm and .357Sig. Generally EDC a Glock 32 G4 with 125gr WW Ranger Bonded. Greets from South Africa.

[@doomguy8447]

@@thepatriotsrage661 Hey brother, I appreciate that. I carry either sig sauer brand 125 grain jacketed hollow points in .357 sig or winchester silver tip 155 grain in 40 s&w in my EDC. Right now I appendix carry the s&w shield 40 2.0 and I have barrels to swap between .357 sig and 40 s&w. I absolutly love the slim profile of a single stack even though I take a hit on capacity. I carry two extra mags and currently reside in a communist state though so i keep anything over 10 rounds at home.

[@aliman3229]

Love my Glock 32 357 Sig compact.

[@Will-ql5db]

*"Honestly you are better off buying a 10mm and a .357 sig over a .357 mag",* Well, you could be right, BUT, in this case, the argument becomes one of Revolver vs Semi-auto platforms. That's the reason why the 357 is on "safe territory", it's in a class all by itself. If you like revolvers (as i do), then you sort of accept the inefficiencies of losing some gas pressure through that cylinder gap. *"still manages to push higher velocitys with simaler rounds than my .357 mag.",* Yeah, and what make/model/barrel length is that? And remember, manufactures of revolvers all have different cylinder-gap distances (Rock Island Armory & Taurus are probably the worst).

[@randall3241]

well some of it to was when you shot the sig the plates was butted up together so it had more hold after the shot the two stacks of plates was apart some so when you shot the mag part of the energy of the mag was lost in the stack of plates being able to slid easier

[@mrdjtoday]

Good stuff and nice work!

[@chrislang5659]

Glad you're back at Heavy Metal!

[@jeffreyhall838]

Another excellent video! Thanks

[@timothymccune2101]

Great job bud ,getting pretty darn smooth .

[@coreyblystone2063]

Huge fan love your videos man your awesome!!

[@sweetlovetiger]

When you shot the 357 sig the back stack pushed back and you never put them back together for the 357 mag so the first stack of plates moved back exorbing the energy from the 357 Magnum so it was not as stiff for the 357 Magnum as it was for the 357 sig

[@ojpaige3873]

Absolutely because the test wasn't a fair test because the magnum round was much heavier than the sig round which gave the sig superior performance which is simply not a fair comparison 🤔

[@jonrolfson1686]

As a sort of wild-ass guess (WAG), the House of Payne .357 Mag round featured a softer plated lead bullet which flattened easily at a slow for the cartridge speed. The Winchester .357 Sig round’s full metal jacket bullet was probably harder, therefore less susceptible to deformation and capable of greater penetration. This WAG is, of course, only tenable so long as the missing bullet remains in an undetermined either squashed or pristine state (Schrødinger’s bullet, if you will).

[@Bob5mith]

Also the first shot with the Sig had the two stacks tight together, and the magnum had them apart. More energy was expended moving the first stack on the second shot.

[@evansmith2279]

E=MV^2. Energy equals mass times velocity squared. Velocity is squared so it’s more important than the mass.

[@theowenssailingdiary5239]

@@evansmith2279 true but there is more at play than just energy. One is what Bob said above. Obviously the bullet type was different. Sometimes (actually usually)a slower bullet will out penetrate the faster one because it deforms less. I think the biggest factor here is bullet type.

[@norrisdillahuntjr4570]

Using the wag terminology you must be a building contractor as well

[@reapergrim76]

Great stuff! 👍

[@garrettforchrist2700]

This is a highly appreciated video from me too! These paper plate test videos are great! That House of Payne ammo is slow. My hand loads are faster. Maybe we need to try a different brand.🇺🇲✝️🇺🇲

[@kst357]

I love all .357's but the test wasn't fair to the 357 mag. The significantly lower velocity, heavier mass, & softer projectile would guarantee less penetration than a faster & harder round. The 357 mag would have done better against the Sig round in a test of knock-down power. What would be cool is to have a test rig that can measure actual impact power. I'd like to see one designed like those carnival games where you swing the heavy hammer down to see if you can ring the bell.

[@thepatriotsrage661]

Bullet weight would have determined it. 125gr isn't 158gr.

[@tommypackwood1013]

Test the mag with 125 flat nose, and the sig with same weight.. I'm with you, the mag was at disadvantage.

[@linemen71]

I’m a 357sig fan boy… and I can 100% agree with you. 357sig is my favorite but the magnum is more powerful.

[@boomdawg56]

@@thepatriotsrage661 Weight and velocity and how the energy is dispersed when looking at penetration of a projectile with equal diameter. The softer plated bullet deformed more and dissipated energy faster therefore penetrating less.

[@cmillerphotos]

Agreed. Apples and mangoes. :-)

[@raymondproulx1095]

Tough to do any compassion test with today’s ammo availability. Naturally the same bullet weight and type will get you a better result. Still, any day at the range is a fun day and the result surprised me. Keep up the great work.

[@ratagris21]

I like both as a multi-caliber shooter. I know both are hard to find and pricey. My preference is still .357 magnum since it can shoot both .357 and .38 spl. A G23 can be converted to .357 Sig and 9mm. Thats the beauty of a Glock - barrel & spring conversion.🎩♠🏁🎯🏵🇺🇸

[@jasonspicer9955]

357sig and 40 are interchangeable not the 9mm

[@ratagris21]

@@jasonspicer9955 with a conversion barrel&spring yes the only difference is the mag.

[@pewpew9193]

@@jasonspicer9955 nah, you can get 9mm barrels for .40 cal Glocks. It's a pretty common thing.

[@chillios2222]

They have 3 barrels , 357 is a 9 but pricey ammo and faster

[@tobylopez445]

I have a SW model 60-14 in 357 magnum and I just love my J frame.

[@jerrysmith3516]

The problem with this test is this was obviously a weak 357 mag round vs a good 357 Sig round. The 357 Sig was made to produce the stopping power of the 357 magnum in the 125 grain bullet and it does that well but being in an auto this is the best it will ever be while the 357 magnum has much hotter rounds because it can be loaded way hotter than this round was.

[@ace3000000]

357 mag definitely seemed like it was a weak load, however WWB isn’t exactly a hot round for 357 SIG either.

[@jerrysmith3516]

@@ace3000000 I just watched someone else on KZbin who put the 357 Sig against the 357 Magnum I forget the brand he was using but it was one of the better companies but he used the exact same brand and the 357 magnum was over 200 fps faster in the 125 grain. If I can find the video I'll send you a link.

[@mlrllama]

I'm hearing that House of Payne ammo is very inconsistent in terms of velocity from a number of personal friends as well as some Tubers. I know you only chrono'ed two rounds, but those did show roughly 100 FPS in variation. Did you measure any more to confirm?

[@andymullarx6365]

Congrats on the 500,000 subscribers.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks Andy

[@timshelley8635]

Great video! Surprised at the result as you were. Maybe the extra velocity helped?

[@Tool-Meister]

I agree, the plate stacks should be retained with no gaps. This isn’t a carefully controlled, scientific test, but I’m certain you’d like to approach the test with a modicum of consistency. I shoot 7-1/2” Ruger Super Black 44 REM Mag & a Glock 23 with multiple barrels, including a 357 Sig. So this is a comparison I can’t make, but do relate too. I find the wrong choice of 357 Sig ammo can result in a delayed expansion, yielding over penetration. I think a great experiment would be several 357 Sig factory and hand-loads with different 125 grain bullets. Love your channel! It reminds me of me, 30 years ago…. Thanks!

[@tintshopnc5552]

I didn't think this would be the result. good information.

[@juanpablosaenzcastaneda4643]

The Winchester load seemed pretty weak for a Magnum

[@thepatriotsrage661]

Cool vid! Perhaps an apples for apples comparison with 125gr FMJ's on both sides would give a different result? The first shot on the .357Mag was on the low side, but that was likely a lighting issue with the chronie. I was very pleasantly surprised by the WWB 125gr .357Sig velocity, consistent and in the range of where .357Sig should be. I carry a Glock 32 Gen 4 with 125gr WW Ranger Bonded in the mags for EDC btw. Greets and best wishes from South Africa.

[@8mmmauser896]

You need to test both 125gr in both cartridges to have a equivalent test.

[@ojpaige3873]

Absolutely

[@maxpower671]

awesome video!

[@munkeybiznes]

We need a redo on this one. There was a significant gap between the bags for magnum round that wasn't there for sig round causing a weight reduction of the target by half resistance. Also we seen actual hole for magnum and not for sig. I don't think impact tearing counts as penetration.

[@indymac7]

I have an eight-point buck on my wall with a .357 Sig. (G32) A good cartridge. I wished it'd become more popular. But I believe you should have run both with the same grains of bullet weight. It would have changed the outcome.

[@jamesgreenfield9640]

Awesome video. Thanks. I know getting the guns to shoot these 3 rounds might be hard, but, what I would like to see comparing 6.5 Grendel, 6 ARC, 7.62X39, paper plates test, oh, maybe the 6.8 SPC 2.

[@YellowHammer26]

Thanks for the video wtw 👍👍

[@Maddog2047]

WTW, Another good video comparison. I agree with others that the same bullet's weight would have been ideal BUT with ammo shortages that is almost impossible. FYI, I have a 357 Sig in my Sig 229. I did test 125 gr weight in both in gell. The 357 sig did better and penetrated farther. The 357 sig is my CCW and I know it would do the job to eliminate the threat!

[@PeterParker-hw5rv]

That's actually slow for 357 mag most are 1500fps now days they are watering ammo down it's rediculas

[@revbikerbigd8664]

Should make a post of every one tested so far to date ! Side by side comparison of different ammo !

[@brucelewis1017]

That 357 sig is a pretty hot round I used to have one it's a 40 cal case with a 9mm lead

[@WHOTEEWHO]

🔥🔥🔥

[@darnellwatkins4031]

Love the video! Not surprised, speed kills.

[@halfcirclehranch6877]

If you had better .357 magnum, it may have come out on top. That ammo was rather slow and inconsistent. .357 magnum FMJ with decent power is rather hard to find, though.

[@halfdollar86]

I have always wondered what a plated round, with a hole drilled in it making a hollow point, would do as far as expansion. Kinda a last ditch hollow point and really would only be good for scratching my curiosity I’m sure. That still don’t stop me from wondering how it would do. I’m sure being the lead used is soft and the plating is thin it would probably explode. With that said Berrys does make Hybrid Hollow points that are plated. If you push them fast enough they actual expand really good. I’m sure they have extra thick plating and better lead to keep them from exploding.

[@jamesgroves5294]

I love my Glock 31 in .357 sig! It was my EDC for years. I still like carrying it in a chest rig for the Oklahoma woods. Great content 🙏🏿🇺🇸

[@kalaharimine]

Given the same FMJ type and weight of bullet, the higher velocity (higher energy, KE=1/2M×V2) cartridge should penetrate further.

[@SOLOLIKETHECUP212]

I carry (daily) g31 gen 4 and I absolutely love it!!

[@wolfhuntersarmory]

I have guns in both calibers (Sig Saure SP2022 3.9" barrel in 357sig, and a Taurus 7 shot Tracker 4" barrel .357 magnum), and love them both. My only issue with both calibers is availability of the ammo. I can find some of both, but they aren't the best. I can only find Remington semi jacketed HP for the .357 mag and FMJ remans for the 347sig right now.

[@raouldukejj]

If you find those Remington semi jacketed hollow points going 1450 fps you'd do yourself a solid picking it up

[@BosnWayne]

Man the quality of your camera sure has improved. Nice job Sir

[@TheBeando]

The paper plate test is my favorite from your channel. Runner up would have to be the time you shot your truck bed.

[@markgriffin9287]

I said to you I just got that colt trooper 357 mag from the 70s (ish)

[@dennmark4843]

Got both, bullet weight was a factor. Fine post!

[@yahwehskid4819]

Where the heck that bullet go! 😂 Great video I really like the SIG. Has some good speed on them and those weren't even carry loads.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Hoodeeni

[@thomaswall4285]

Hello and thank you for your PC good content and great thoughts. I see that there is some issues when it comes to BEAR! that if your under one and you have to shoot pressed in that a pistol will not be able to fire pressed against the bear, wereas the revolver can fire. question.. if you have a longer barrell than the slide in say a glock would that take care of that issue? Thanks,Tom

[@teedermcdribble]

That sig round had roughly 120 ftlbs more energy over the chronograph. Thanks for the great vids.

[@milesstover3724]

great video man. Im looking at getting me a 357 sig

[@MrOne-vi7ow]

Good job sir 👍🏽

[@TheJohndeere212]

Great comparison

[@JackFrostTheDeerHunter]

different bullets, different results..happens every time. Always fun to spend time at the range though! CHEERS.

[@itsshamburger3277]

Just got a G31 357 sig love it and like how I came across this video to see how it performs

[@Mr.Robert1]

That's interesting, I always wear paper plates inside my vest for additional stopping power.

[@chevyon37s]

I think with the 357 Sig going first it separated some of the plates making it harder for the magnum to penetrate. I say we try shooting them into separate stacks of plates and the results reverse.

[@Dalesarty]

Hey WTW. Paper plates. 😎👍👍. On the range with heavy metal 🤘 Awesome!!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks Dale!

[@garyeaton5719]

Good video also looked like the 357 Sig had less recoil, maybe not that much since I didn’t hear you comment about it.

[@bdr32965]

The penetration of that .357 sig surprised me. Like you, I thought that .357 maga num boolot would penetrate farther than it did. By the way, glad to see another fan of Taurus pistols, I have a Taurus M44 and have been wanting to get a Taurus model 66 but with the 6 inch barrel.

[@whiplash8277]

Have both, carry both, love both. Thanks WTW

[@floridahuntsman7915]

I’m so happy I found .357 Sig content! It’s expensive but the best ever for me .

[@martinmorningstar9724]

Another great video, is it possible for you to test a Thompson Center Contender G! or G2 in 45/70, Thank you

[@duranbailiff5337]

Brother, I would love to see a comparison between the WWII .30 cal. carbine round vs. the 350 LGD in similar barrel lengths. My mind is exploring the similarities and differences of the two. What say Ye Brother Hootily Hoo? Love your work, and God bless you and yours!

[@Drknow-mx1fj]

That was was super cool

[@SuperReddog17]

in the 357 mag's defence the two packs of plates were separated after the 357 sig's shot which let the first stack to get pushed back to the second stack, i had the glock 31 and loved it.

[@radiowaveguitarist1332]

That song at the end of your videos, Adam if that is you singing, you have got a GOOD SINGING VOICE!👍

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Nope. Brent Saunders on YT

[@Mr.Robert1]

When I became of age where I was able to walk into my local gun store and purchase handguns I noticed the Taurus line. Always assumed that people were buying them because they are less expensive. I don't buy a gun everyday I decided to go with a brand that I know and that was the Smith & Wesson .357 Magnum. I got it in the 4-inch Barrel and went with Pachmayr grips as I found the wood grips to be a little big for my hands. I pose the question. Why would anybody look to save a few dollars when it comes to self defense, protecting one's family ? As I got older and my income increased every time I went in to purchase a rifle, shotgun, or handgun I always looked at the most expensive that money could buy. Again guns and not purchased everyday, is it really worth the savings? I don't think so.

[@patrickqualtiere3134]

EXCELLENT 👍

[@mrpibb7781]

I have a mid 90s p229 in 357 Sig that is my absolute favorite EDC. Just ordered a "Battle Axe" alligator leather holster for it from Southern Trapper. Little gift to myself courtesy of Uncle Sam!

[@dr.froghopper6711]

Broader cross section on the magnum and friction slowed it considerably. It was going slower anyway. NM State Police chose the Sig because they thought it would blow an engine block on a semi. That was years ago and I don’t know if they stuck with it. Sure sorry about the camera Adam. If I had money I would definitely donate to the cause. The economy has gone nuts and disability benefits don’t go very far. But I’m digging the content man!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Appreciate you watching

[@eddiearchuleta615]

Nmsp uses 9mm M&p 9

[@peternorton5648]

I’ve seen a couple different videos featuring that House of Payne ammo. It seems like they load their rounds on the weak side. I wonder if you had some main brand ammo for the magnum if they wouldn’t be a bit more even.

[@paulfryejr2918]

I have 357 Mag in a S&W PD 360 and 357 Sig in an Sig SP2340 with a conversion barrel for 40 S&W. Interesting results from you test. Thanks for the comparison.

[@Z06C5]

Fun video. Was buying 357 Sig. For 13.99 a box. 18 months ago. Now it’s 57.99 a box. Outrageous. Price gouging by ammo companies. Love that 357 sig

[@Iowawalrus]

I dig this content A bunch.

[@Diondjg1369]

Just love my 357 sig glock gen 3 . Its snappy but dam it's a great gun .

[@adonian]

I LOVE my .357Sig... I had a bad time and needed cash back in the day and sold everything EXCEPT my .357Sig, glad I still have it since I can't get a new one in Commiefornia. The ammo isn't that hard to find LAX ammo is just 15 mile north of my house and they carry it (Thank God)

[@kodywoodward]

Sorry I missed it tonight. Missed everyone. I just built a 357 sig but just bought a Colt Python 3in 357 mag. This video is a mind blower! I expected different results.

[@darrellblake799]

I have both and I too am a wee bit surprised.

[@guardianminifarm8005]

And a disappearing bullet trick to boot. Thank you.

[@jamesotis4310]

I carry a Glock 24 with a 357 sig barrel she’s a great woods gun . Great video bud!

[@dustinpotter8312]

Besides jacket variations if you were to take the 357 sig and shoot it into the top portion of the plate you will probably find the top section reveals to sig less effective in the top section as well though not quite as much as the difference of the 357 mag and 357 sig. At the lower level the plates are firmer than the top add in that the "stack" of plates was broken by the effect of the first shot on the bottom. The "flex" of the plates would reduce penetration at the top as the resistance from a rigid vs a flexible platform is more piercing. For instance in a straight chop (not slicing) hit a 4" branch with a hatchet at a foot and a half of the tree trunk and then at an inch of the tree trunk. The flex of the limb will rob penetration of the hatchet blade at the longer distance. I know the distances are not the same as what you had on the plates but the principle is the same.

[@linkbond08]

This was very informative because you always hear about the 357 Magnum's edge over the Sig, for being able to shoot heavier projectiles, therefore having more penetration potential, but this shows that, at least on paper plate media, this is not the case all that. I can already hear the 357 Magnum guys "noooo you did it wrong!! you're supposed to do it this other way!!!"

[@dannyneal6194]

I was surprised at the results. I would have thought it would be the 357 mag. You might get a different result with the same bullets weights; maybe…. Great video! I like the paper plate demo…

[@ronroche3138]

I thought the same, it seems many of us did. I bet the results would have been much less lopsided even if the Sig still came out on top.

[@dannyneal6194]

@@ronroche3138 it’s an idea for Adam to do another video. Love the paper plate demo…

[@ronroche3138]

@@dannyneal6194 I think you're right

[@chillios2222]

It's mass times the velocity squared so that change in velocity gets it

[@Indianarmslover]

Very nice video 👍, make a video 7.62×25 tokarev vs 9mm on paper paltes.