357 Sig vs 357 Mag!!! - GIANT CLAY BLOCKS

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[@chrismoody1342]

All these years later and the 357 mag is still one of the best pistol caliber rounds ever devised.

[@edt8535]

Amen, brother!!

[@SouthernGreyShark]

No, that would be the 45 acp. 😊

[@LTVoyager]

@@SouthernGreyShark Not even close. I own two .45 ACPs and no .357s at present, but for an all-around round the .357 is superior is almost every way, except the length and case design which makes autoloaders challenging. However, from every other aspect the .357 is the winner.

[@SouthernGreyShark]

@@LTVoyager Blowing up clay targets, certainly the 357 is more impressive. But IMO, when it comes to self defense & stopping a human being the best, I believe the slower but far larger 45 acp round is better overall than the faster but much smaller 357 round. That's taking everything into account, including (over) penetration and recoil. Honestly, IMO even the 10mm is a better option than the 357 mag when it's self defense as the goal. But if pure ft lbs of energy is the only measure, hell, go with a 44 mag.

[@LTVoyager]

@@SouthernGreyShark Thankfully, I’ve never had to shoot a human so I can’t compare the cartridges that way. However, if you look at the video titled 1800 shootings…, the .357 outperforms the .45 nearly across the board. And surprisingly, the .380 and even .22 do surprisingly well. I suspect the issue is shot placement in the case of the latter as most shooters are simply more consistently accurate with lower recoiling rounds. I still carry a .45 as my EDC, but as I move deeper into my 60s, the recoil of the XDs .45 gets more noticeable every year. I am seriously considering a 9mm (also for cheaper ammo) or maybe a .357 Sig. If there was a way to make a compact semiautomatic handgun in .357 Mag, that would be my first choice. Caliber debates are fun, but I think we all know that shot placement almost always trumps cartridge choice.

[@oneeyedgunguy]

I am happy to see some 357 Sig content, we need to keep this great round relevant!

[@Me2Lancer]

I purchased my first .357 Magnum in 1965 when most of my time was spent patrolling the coast of South Vietnam. The patrols involved boarding sampans, junks and suspicious merchant vessels. The purchase was made at the Navy & Marine Corp exchange in Subic Bay where we would return for refueling and replenishment between patrols. Our duty weapons were antiquated 1911s. The 357 gave me a lot more confidence during a hostile situation.

[@dr.froghopper6711]

You wouldn’t be part of an IUWG command would you? I was trained to do the same job but later, ‘77-‘80.

[@Me2Lancer]

@@dr.froghopper6711 We were one of a group of Destroyer Escort Radar DER picket ships that established Operation Market Time. We did meet up with some folks from IUWG off and on.

[@knockharder3554]

Thank you sir. Thank you for your sacrifices and pain for our great nation.

[@cory8791]

Did you ever shot someone with a .357 mag?

[@col.cottonhill6655]

Nice. I went to a cool Tiger Zoo in Subic Bay like 10 years ago

[@garyeaton5719]

Nice rectangular blocks of clay. If you shot them lengthwise, I think you could recover more projectiles and with a buck saw with steel piano wire you could slice it open and see where the energy dump is for each cartridge.

[@calebbeuk6656]

The 357 magnum is a total beast. I love how versatile it is. Specially in a lever action rifle. Here in texas a 357 lever action makes nasty hog gun

[@billellington9754]

What is the best bullet type in your rifle for hogs?

[@calebbeuk6656]

Any kind of hollow point

[@anthonymartinez3084]

@@billellington9754 180 grain buffalo bore hardcast works well or the 158 grain heavy 357 is good too

[@tonyt8807]

@@billellington9754 Lever gun---357 JSP 158 gr

[@bigviper64]

I live in Spring Branch, TX and have a Marlin .357 mag/.38 Spcl. Lever gun, never fired it yet but looking forward to it!

[@Aubrey_Yates]

The only revolver I own is in 357 mag. So I am kinda partial. 357 magnum all day long! 😎

[@johnhorton9637]

I own several revolvers. Different calibers. But my fav is the 357 mag. Which I have 2 of.

[@gooff4093]

First female comment on a gun video! Congratts

[@michaelvanbenschoten2165]

There's just a Goldilocks effect to a .357 revolver. Its just right.

[@conanmcdonough3294]

@@michaelvanbenschoten2165 357 mag and .44 mag 👍

[@BN-xi6oh]

For self defense, the 357 Sig. That dome on top should mean it put a lot of energy inside the target. For hunting, especially thick hide/heavy bone animals such as Hogs, the 357 Mag which I've used on more than 1 occasion to stop a charging Hog. In the end carry/use what you can handle and shoot well.

[@alphakennyone3173]

Magnum hands down! But the sig is a really good round. Would like to see 357 magnum vs 10mm

[@Steve-sd7wk]

Probably good to see a 9mm too, seeing as it's the closest to the 357 (9mm = .354", 10mm = .394"), just as far as boolat diameter goes.

[@Mike-gw9yt]

He actually already did 357 magnum vs 10mm.

[@joshb951]

@@Steve-sd7wk your math is incorrect.

[@Steve-sd7wk]

@@joshb951 uhhhhhhhhh, nope. That's right. 10mm is .394", 9mm is .354".

[@joshb951]

@@Steve-sd7wk Hahaha........NOPE!!!

[@skylordsix]

Purchased my first handgun ever when I tuned 21, in 1977. It was a Smith & Wesson model 27, .357 magnum with a 6in barrel (yes, I still have it). It might be a bit large to carry, but it's still my favorite.

[@joeisabella6811]

I went .357 mag for my first handgun too. A 7 shot Taurus tracker with 4" full lug barrel. I've literally put thousands and thousands of everything from 38's to full house 357 hand loads and it's still ticking. Things a tack driver too. All these years and guns later, I still have a smile every time I dig it out for some shooting.

[@buckfutter99]

The day I turned 18 I bought a 303. Enfield Jungle Carbine for 100 bucks even. When I turned 34 rifle hunting became legal in my state. I took my first buck with it. I’ve had people offer me crazy money for it. I’ll never get rid of it. In the dead of winter that rifle is warm when I touch it. She’s my first true crush.

[@nicholasthomas4382]

This test tells me two things: if energy is pretty even between the two, the Sig would be a better defense round, because it deposited its energy inside the clay, the Magnum would be a better hunting bullet, because it exited the block with apparently lots of energy left, meaning it would penetrate much deeper. Just my 2 cents. I have both.

[@daflea66]

Ammunition selection changes all that.

[@nicholasthomas4382]

@@user-zv2eu1vj4l while your first point is obviously true, and ribs and bone can challenge the performance of intermediate calibers like 380 and 9mm, there is no reason, based on empirical data, to believe that the same thing would be true for either 357 cartridge. Secondly, the 357 Sig does not do a maximum of 1350fps w 125gr, that's the minimum, some loads like Underwood do 1550fps or more from a 4 inch barrel, and if you check Lucky Gunner Labs, you'll see that round-for-round, the 357 Sig and Mag are basically identical performers from a 4 inch barrel. In fact, 357 Sig has the same standard deviation in velocity among many loads as it does within several shots from the same load. 357 Sig basically duplicates 357 magnum in similar loads from a similar gun, but 357 Mag has some hotter loads and a lot that are made for hunting, which generally means deeper penetration than defense ammo.

[@nicholasthomas4382]

@@user-zv2eu1vj4l Sanow and Marshall, while relevant data sets, are also old as hell, especially considering their book was written before 357 Sig was created, was largely the motivation behind 357 Sig, and the defense loads available in 1992 have all been eclipsed by modern loadings. There are obvious issues with Sanow and Marshalls results, for example the fact that, with fewer defense shootings total, the 10mm and 44 Magnum both have lower one shot stop percentages than 40 and 45. You don't have to be a scientist to see the comparative performance of those calibers, with modern defense bullets, totally eclipse the abilities of 40 and 45 ACP both. The problem with only referencing anecdotal data is that you only have the shootings that are available to you to reference, there is no control set, unless you balance it against relevant modern testing of modern bullets. To put it simply, a flesh wound with a 44 magnum is going to be less effective at stopping a person than a 9mm to center mass, and that may be reflected in an anecdotal analysis, but you'd have to be a stupid person to think that a CM shot from 44 magnum would be equally ineffective. Ammunition reliability and performance technology has only gotten better, and with modern ammunition, 357 Sig absolutely mimics 357 Magnum in 125gr ammo from a 4-5 inch barrel. The difference in performance between the two in an actual shooting would be based more on bullet placement than cartridge. Another good reference point is the Paul Harrell meat target. While obviously not a perfect anologue for a human torso, the pork ribs do accurately represent what a bullet does when it hits bone. A much better comparison than the 2 357s would be 357 Mag versus 9mm. In gel, they can have VERY similar penetration and expansion numbers, and many people would consider that to mean they are equally effective. What you and I are recognizing here, that MOST modern analysts don't, is that humans and animals FEEL a gunshot wound, which is not quantified in any study especially a gel test, and that therefor energy matters, and considering Marshall and Sanow and many other studies, energy matters a hell of a lot, all other things being equal. Like I said, among the variety of Sig and Magnum loads, you will have some more effective for defense than others, but overall I think they are close enough to be considered basically equal. Gold Dot in Sig is definitely going to perform better than Hi Shok in Magnum, and vice versa. By the Sanow and Marshall methodology, calibers with more shooting incidents available tend to be rated as having a higher one-shot stop percentage. Edit: I misquoted the release of Handgun Stopping Power as released in 1992, but that was Marshalls first book on the subject. The point stands, even in 2001 ammo tech was far behind what we have today. Also, good cross-reference resources are Greg Ellifritz and Massad Ayoob, they discuss issues with methodology and results in Marshall and Sanows work. 380 ACP does NOT surpass 38 Special for defense, especially not today.

[@jayveeadvincula2884]

Hunting four legged critters need blood trail?

[@nicholasthomas4382]

@@jayveeadvincula2884 it helps, and for something like whitetail deer, its fundamental, because its very hard to anchor them in place reliably with ANY cartridge. Blood trail helps w tracking.

[@admiral12r]

Team Mag! Love the clay block vids but idk why you don't turn them and shoot the blocks the long way. I think it would be a much better show of power for all rounds. How about a 9mm showdown with the 357 sig, 357 mag, 9mm, 380 and 38 Special. All going lengthwise through the clay blocks instead of the short size.

[@c.r.chandler5905]

The thing I love about the SIG is all the energy that was passed into the inside of the target. The top of the block being bowed out like it was is a good indicated of all of the energy being transferred inside of the target. The magnum was more explosive on the front however the energy transfer inside the block with the SIG was impressive.

[@daflea66]

ammo choice will change where the energy is dumped.

[@The77Game]

I'm pretty sure if the magnum was more centered it would do something similar.

[@reachblowsdick7222]

@C.R. Chandler - In video it looked like the magnum had more energy and did far more damage to the block than the Sig. The most powerful 357 Sig vs the most powerful 357 magnum, the magnum is the winner, even in a revolver.

[@siksika4603]

​@@The77Game I was thinking the same thing .

[@TheZombieburner]

No preference, I'd take either one, and happily so. Both are amazing rounds, and I have nothing but positivity to both. I prefer the ergonomics of the revolver, but I love the capacity of an autopistol!

[@Trooper4985]

.357 Magnum all day long, own 3 revolvers and a Ruger 77. Do they make a .357 Sig rifle? Oh yeah. I have a Coonan Classic also.

[@thereindeertherabbitthebat592]

I've always wanted to see a company put 357sig in a carbine. Idk how much the velocity gain would be but it still would be pretty cool. Would probably do good in a longer bbl loaded with something like longshot.

[@rusticredd6294]

I'd love to see 9mm vs .357 Sig. with the clay blocks.

[@connoroliver1702]

Same

[@hardycoffman6896]

I’d love to see 9mm+P vs .357 Sig!

[@laskosaturno2736]

3.57 sig vs 10mm.

[@rusticredd6294]

@@laskosaturno2736 That would be a good one too!

[@MWAdams605]

I bet you'd also like to see a 38 Special vs 357 Magnum, considering that a 9mm to a 357 Sig is pretty much the same comparison, both use the same bullet, just different velocity.

[@shikat2371]

I think the only reason why that .357 mag round didn't go all the way through the clay block is because, aside from being a very light round for that caliber at 110 grains, it was traveling so fast that the round expanded upon impact and, thus, prevented it from passing through the block.

[@perplexingperceptions8888]

Those terminate small four legged predators almost instantly with my Ruger GP100 6" stainless.

[@tonymaquero5823]

He also went from a Spear Gold-Dot FMJ to a Winchester JHP so there's gonna be a difference in performance between the two based on bullet construction & of course, the difference in performance grade. Still wouldn't wanna get shot with either one of these! 😬

[@heroinmom153]

That's one reason why they're so great for self defense, they dump their energy quickly into the target

[@Frontpagefab]

@@tonymaquero5823 The speer gold dot is a hollow point, not a FMJ.

[@user-lg8db4vy7u]

Compare the two calibres with the same grain you can't. Use 357 Sig 220 grain and 357 mag 110grain there. Is a huge difference in projectile weight

[@someguy7993]

The first round from the .357 magnum had a huge entrance wound and a softball sized exit wound. That would not just stop a person, but drop them instantly. The .357 Sig is also impressive, but the magnum clearly did the most damage.

[@jeffro1643]

Two different boolets, similar but different. The .357 Mag is .357" the 357 Sig is actually a 9mm at .355". Similar velocities with the .357 Mag being faster. Boolet weight is another factor as well. When comparing boolets you should always use same weight when possible. Good stuff.👍

[@navyvet1382]

I vote for 357 mag from the beginning of the video

[@paulb6991]

I carried a S&W model 28 for the first 10 years of law enforcement career, then a Sig P220 in 45 ACP for 5 and last 15 a Sig P226 in .357 sig. For the enjoyment of shooting I’ll take the revolver all day for the purpose of defense give me the P226-12 in the mag & 1 in the barrel. Mag reloads vs speed loaders. Semiautomatic a lot easier for concealed carry both the gun & mags. Was able to purchase all of the weapons when they were retired and then the.357 sig when I retired. A use for both.

[@waynecastleman1363]

I get a P220 45 ACP it's a heck of a pistol.

[@BM205]

I love my 226 it's 40 with a 357sig barrel which I shoot every once in awhile.

[@mattbrown5511]

Another "spray and pray" LEO because they generally get away with zero consequences, unlike us pesky citizens.

[@hardycoffman6896]

I love .357 Sig! I’ve been waiting for this video like a kid on Christmas morning!! The Sig is one of my favorite carry rounds, and I love the versatility of being able to simply barrel swap any of my .40S&W pistols into .357s and still be able to use the same mags! Great video!

[@AverageJoe4063]

Ditto!

[@chrislettenmaier6822]

I feel the same it’s the only caliber with the right gun that you can own two guns with the price of one. I love the 357 caliber more than anything else.

[@TransformersHoarder]

Three guns actually. You can get 40 S&W to 9mm barrels as well. My P229 shoots 9, 40, and 357.

[@ruddigerbillius5369]

I was not aware of this. Game changer.

[@stevemiller7433]

.357 sig and 10mm have something in common.. they are commonly loaded far below their capabilities. Many 357 sig loadings are hardly better than 9mm +p+ and some 10mm loadings are similar to .40 S&W.

[@norrisdillahuntjr4570]

With that being said as expensive as 357sig is wouldn't they still be cheaper than plus p in 9mm

[@averagedoes5715]

Might as well lump 357 mag into that group as well. Most commercially available 357 mag ammo is basically right around book starting loads. I keep seeing all these videos trying to compare auto loaders to 357 mag but the fact is that there are very few companies that actually load 357 mag to it's potential. When you compare apples to apples (full power loads out of equal length barrels) the fact remains that you can't get magnum performance out of a semi-auto pistol without stepping up to a Desert Eagle or the like.

[@ammohead73]

I used to carry the G33 in .357 sig,I really liked it but ammo started getting so expensive it was hard to train with.Great round for sure.

[@wolfhuntersarmory]

I was able to find some good quality 357sig reman range ammo for a decent price. I paid 189.00 for 250 rounds 2 weeks ago. It was from an NC company called outdoor limited.

[@whiplash8277]

Many company's make replacement barrels that fit multi caliber platforms. I run a LoneWolf .357Sig barrel in my G23. I train with the cheaper and plentiful .40, then for CC I put the .357 Sig barrel back int he weapon. The .357Sig ammo fits perfectly in the .40 caliber barrel and holds the same number of rounds as the .40. More than likely you can find a .40 barrel for your G33 to train with.

[@wolfhuntersarmory]

@@whiplash8277 I do the same with my Sig Pro... I train with tje .40 barrel, but when I carry that pistol (I regularly change my carry pistol depending on what Im wearing, where Im going, and if I want to open or conceal carry) I switch to the 357sig barrel. I have more 357sig defensive ammo than .40 right now.

[@l67swap1]

Get a 40cal barrel :)

[@michaelbillstrom170]

@@whiplash8277 you know you can get a 9mm conversion barrel to make it a little cheaper to practice (at least it was pre covid). You would also need a glock 19 mag though.

[@Brykk]

357 sig is one of those rounds i was hoping would catch on but it never did. The ballistics for it is about as good as youll get, as far as power/recoil and the energy.

[@matthewhickey942]

10mm is best mm iv been carrying for 12 years iv shot and killed bear and deer.

[@ThatMDubyaGuy]

Actually it’s a simple answer for me, it depends on what I am doing. For carry/home defense the .357 Sig. The capacity, ease of reloading, and easier to carry concealed options in the auto loader style only make sense. However in the woods/field, I would definitely go with the .357 Mag again. The ability to swap between .38 Wadcutters for small game and heavy hard cast loads for deer and larger make the revolver the obvious choice for that use. So I would rather have both of them.

[@robertgeiger1306]

The .357 Sig more than likely dumped it's power inside the block. As has been said, even if not exactly equal I would go with the Sig as it seems less likely to go through your target and injure someone else.

[@mdd1963]

'dumped all it's power' pretty much means 'expanded enough to slow way too quickly'

[@robertgeiger1306]

@@mdd1963 no, the best thing for a handgun round is for it to do is put all its power into the intended target and not over penetrate and cause danger to bystanders.

[@mdd1963]

@@robertgeiger1306 the BHD?! 'Blessed Energy Dump'?

[@robertgeiger1306]

Basically what I said, thanks for agreeing!

[@adysc74]

i was thinking the same, that "hydrostatic" shock clay received is enormous and don't got through enough to injure somebody else😉

[@luket557]

I'm 357 sig all day. 357 sig should be going around 1,450fps. Feel like 357 sig is like 10mm in a way, in the sense that some companies deliver full power and others water down the ammo. Thanks for the video

[@kenchan3038]

its a whole lot closer to 9mm(.355 caliber), more or less a fat nine

[@kenchan3038]

@cwlongshot I said it was a fat 9, meaning it was just a tad bit more than a 9mm. 9mm NATO isn't too far behind that round. Especially out of my 16" barrel.

[@lyleme1951]

357 Mag was one of my first guns back in the early 70's..... Loved that gun. I'm sorry that I ever sold it.

[@briankearney9483]

.357 mag all day, every day! I use a Taurus 66 for whitetail hunting in MI and WI. I have taken 5 deer with that revolver, loaded with 125 grain hollow points and it absolutely hammers them. I haven't had one go more than about 10 yards after being hit with that bullet. The wounds are absolutely devastating.

[@YellowHammer26]

I've always been a fan of the 357 mag thanks for the video 👍👍

[@georgesakellaropoulos8162]

You simply cannot find a more versatile handgun cartridge than the .357 magnum. I consider it the .30-'06 of handgun rounds.

[@jeffpadilla9891]

The second .357 Semi jacketed hollow point did exactly what it was supposed to do, no over penetration.

[@drewt1081]

I loved my 357 sig. This was the most exciting new pistol cartridge to be introduced in the nineties. This power in a small auto was awesome(at the time only the Desert Eagle was offered in 357mag) plus the fact that so many manufacturers were offering it. I had a custom barrel fitted for my 96 Elite in 357, it cost me a lot, but it was sweet. I miss that gun, but not the ammo prices. That stuff was expensive back then too.

[@69CamaroSS]

An old guitar string would be a GREAT way to cross-section the wound cavity in the clay to show the internal displacement and damage caused by the energy dump 😉

[@gearhead682010]

Another great video per usual, I never minded the recoil of a .357 Mag myself and in a revolver that’s icing on the cake

[@ericeller9165]

.357 in my snubnose revolver, and 7.62x25 in my old autoloader. 😉

[@nikospaleologos3907]

357 mag is great, the sig is close behind. But with that much difference in capacity, the Sig wins and in my opinion, is the best carry round in the world.

[@7mm-08]

Anything that is still viable after 80+ years is superb in my book!

[@ru2yaz33]

.357 Sig was design to match the .357 Magnum with a 125 gr bullet from a 4" barrel going at 1450 fps. But as always major ammunition manufacturers watered down to ~1250 to ~1350 fps.

[@big10hunter42]

The watered down rounds have been much less accurate for me than my handloads running the 125gr Gold dot at 1440fps with 800x. I love the 357 SIG with a case full of 800x, but am disappointed with the majority of the factory rounds.

[@linkbond08]

@@big10hunter42 what's the starting powder load for 800x?

[@big10hunter42]

@@linkbond08 take a look at the “Hodgdon Reloading Data Center”. The only load listed with 800x is 10 grains of 800x with the 125gr Gold Dot projectile. They also have data for other bullets and powders. Please reference their published data for full details. Thanks!

[@robertfree1908]

@@big10hunter42 love that 800x. Shame they no longer offer it. What do we, as handloaders, have available that could equal it? I’ve looked into others(Longshot, BlueDot, vv3n38, and slower powders like Enforcer/4100) but am unsure at this point if the even could equal it

[@user-hq7zf8em9e]

I've got about 8 pounds of 800X I managed to grab back when nobody was buying it, and I use it exclusively to load top performing .460 Rowland ammo. It's an old flake powder not meant for modern powder deliver systems, but does meter quite well through my Redding 10X.

[@daflea66]

Magnum all day. Highly unlikely you'll ever need more than a few rounds in self defense. 7 or 8 shot magnum plus one speed loader is a great system, if I have to choose between the two here.

[@daflea66]

@@FoulPet I didnt say I would take it over a G19 per se, just between these 2 selections. In the environment you described, do you think a 17 round magazine is really what will save you? Evasion and escape at that point. I dislike auto-loaders with necked cartridges for several reasons, so in this case .357 magnum in a pocket or ankle backup configuration pistol

[@daflea66]

@@FoulPet Wall of text and point missed. Between THESE TWO choices I would take a .357 MAG over the SIG. But in reality a G19 is never not with me. Carry on

[@daflea66]

@@FoulPet cause u the man, man.

[@richardzacamy4605]

Do you think the .357 Mag. Spear Gold Dot would be a good round for deer hunting. Out of the Henry Big Boy X Lever Action?

[@capsaicincelt8929]

I'll vouch brother they are whole hearted a good round for close to short medium range white tail. Learned from experimenting with many rounds thru my marlin.

[@MrDowby]

Yes. Its a bonded bullet. Velocity should be around 1700+ fps in a 158 grain bullet out of that Henry. Try to avoid the scapula if you can though. I have 2, 357 rifles and handload for them. 20 inch Henry big boy steel and an older break action 22 inch handi rifle. Mostly with XTP bullets though. 16 inch barrels seem to give you the most bang for your buck. More barrel after 16 depending on your powder will slow your bullet back down.. Personally have no recent experience with 158 Gold dots in the rifles though I did work 6 years at ATK here in Lewiston making them and they are top notch

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Yup

[@stephaniebolding3741]

357 mag for me and would love to see 454 casull in the future 👍

[@halfcirclehranch6877]

Team .357 Magnum here. An American round, an American gun. As opposed to a German round in an Austrian gun. 🤣

[@henrychristopher9131]

I have both 357 mag and 357 sig but I would go with the 357 sig shooting Underwood ammo 125 grain gold dot bonded hp @ 1500 fps which more mimics the 357 mag. The purpose of the 357 sig was to have 357 mag power in an semi auto with more capacity than a revolver. Most of the 357 sig ammo on the market is under powered including the Speer Gold dot you used in the video.

[@williamkious5349]

Didn't they cut the heat on 357 sig because it was chewing up barrels/chambers too quickly?

[@henrychristopher9131]

@@williamkious5349 No. They wanted to reduce recoil to make it more manageable.

[@iyaayas200]

.357 S&W 28 was my first gun, and will always be my favorite round. would like to see .38 SPL +P against the .357 Sig or 9mm vs .357 Sig

[@robertbryan5491]

Hard to argue with that huge hole the 357 mag left in the clay and while none of my 357 mags hold 15 rounds I think 1 or two 357's will convince anything to leave me alone, if not I have a 41mag

[@Thedoug369]

I've got a model 57 41 mag that I bought in Alaska on a fishing trip back in like 91. Big signs in all the state parks up there to carry a rifle or big bore hand gun. For the bears ya know lol. Thankfully I never had to use it on that trip but I still love that gun. Bitch finding ammo tho.

[@IWatchedWhat]

I love my 41 mags, I have 5 of them right now.

[@SveninColorado]

I purchased my first large cal. wheel gun in 1985. it's a S&W "N" Frame .357 Mag, 4" barrel M&P with Pachmayr grips. It is still my favorite pistol. It is NOT a concealed carry gun! It's mass tames the hottest hand loads I stuff into it. MOLON LABE!

[@bulletbill5977]

Ever since I got my Cimmaron Thunderer I've switched to Team .357 Magnum all the way.

[@dr.froghopper6711]

I have loved the 357 Magnum since I was able to buy one from the Command Gunners Mate back in my Navy days. They make nice 8 shot wonders these days but that old Colt Trooper Mk III had a 1-2# trigger pull, really nice grips and a 6” barrel. I miss the revolver! I have arthritis in my hands and I have real trouble with racking a slide. But a DA/SA revolver is something that my hands can do! That Colt was a shooting machine!

[@leegreene3059]

My neighbor has rheumatoid arthritis and his daughter got him some kind of cbd lotion, so he can shoot and not be in pain (his joints aren't contorted and crippled up yet, just starting to enlarge and cause pain) might be worth checking out.

[@waynecastleman1363]

Try you a Kimber K6 Target it's an very nice revolver !

[@dr.froghopper6711]

@@leegreene3059 i appreciate that! I’m already using it for that. I fight a neurological disorder along with the arthritis. The doctor said that, medically, they feel that my nerves need treatment more than my arthritis. So I get a strong anti inflammatory by mouth but nothing more for the creaky joints and injections 3x/wk for the nerves. It’s less than ideal but the CBD does help some. I taught myself blacksmithing about 40 years ago but didn’t realize what it was doing to the joints. I’m paying now.

[@sulaco2122]

Dr. when I went into the sheriff''s academy in 1978 they issued us Colt Trooper Mark III's a boat anchor of a gun but handled the .357 very well. I was sorry I had to let it go when the dept went to .40 Glocks in the late 80's, tried to buy the Colt from the dept but they would not sell them.

[@johnshields9110]

Buddy, I had a Trooper Mk 111 ina 4", Nickel, that was one accurate pistol! I could hit an 8"plate at 100yards; great, great trigger. Traded on a big single shot pistol for future bear hunting; never used that 2nd pistol; what a waste on my part!

[@snakemanwilliams7231]

Really like the 357 Magnum in Ruger GP100 and Henry lever gun, but for EDC I lean towards Sig 229 in 357Sig. Like both calibers for different reasons and yes capacity is better for the later.

[@watthairston1483]

.357 Mag = In-woods round. .357 Sig = In-town round. Interesting comparison in any case. Thanks, WH

[@Mr.Robert1]

357 Magnum to. For the most part, the 110 to 125-grain JHP bullets are best. At 1,300 to 1,440 fps, these bullets expand quickly, fragment and produce an effective wound channel. The Hornady Critical Defense at 1,380 fps doesn't fragment and produces an impressive balance of expansion and penetration.

[@1968CudaGuy]

Load and shoot both rounds. Carried both over the years. Back to carrying a Kahr CW9 or a S&W M&P 9mm EZ most of the time. Every once in a while I'll carry a wheel gun just for fun.. Usually either a Ruger LCR-X in 38 Special or a Charter Arms Bulldog in 44 Special. Both with 4" barrels.

[@kst357]

Blowing a softball sized tunnel through something is cool enough for me. I'd go with the .357Mag. 7 shots of that kind of awesomeness equals the power of 10 shots from a Sig. The only drawback is that they take longer to reload than the semi-auto. If you need more than 7 shots then carry a pair of them. Problem solved.

[@jostouw4366]

Or get a speed loader?

[@dude55ist]

Love them both. Biggest difference is when using h-110 in the magnum you really turn that revlover into a cannon.

[@randyhelton3310]

Good choice in the 31 I've had one for years the only reason people never liked it is because ammo price but now all ammo is expensive

[@markmedvedeff4974]

357 mag

[@traviscozza7177]

I would definitely go the sig route. The comfort in having that many rounds and to be able to get them off quickly is key for me. Yes I know some people van fire off a revolver quickly but not my thing.

[@Slippindisc]

Why not just carry 9mm then

[@sparky_-mf2cs]

Learn how to aim and you wont need all them shots 🤣

[@davidh9659]

@@sparky_-mf2cs Learn how to aim and you won't need them super powerful rounds either :)

[@sparky_-mf2cs]

@@davidh9659 🤣 but if i miss i wana make sure i blind them atleast

[@tonym3675]

LOL Okay shoot once, hit the target in a vital place and there is no need for 13 more shots or even 5 more. Now if you are in a war zone, things are different. But I'd say in either case. Practice the one-shot one-kill scenario at the range. Get good at that and it's a moot point to talk about needing 14 rounds. After all, most people that want a handgun, want it for personal/self-defense if they ever need it (and I hope no one would ever need it for that). We are not soldiers out here fighting in Vietnam or the Middle East somewhere. Now that all haveing been typed! Between the two, I'd say the sig on recoil is more manageable, but if you want to make sure the perp doesn't get back up! 357 mag all the way. But then there is the argument of shot placement is everything. In that, then all you'd need would be a single shot 22 cal.

[@blindarchershaunhenderson3769]

That why Massad Ayoob recommended 357 hollow points for law enforcement carry back in the 1980s, less chance of a through and through, with total energy dump into the target, he did an interesting study on the subject of the 357 magnum in law enforcement use, which appeared in "Gun Digest" in the mid 80s

[@bigoz7]

Cool vid very informative and thanks for sharing!

[@garrettforchrist2700]

I think the .357 mag might've been more impressive if you hit the block a little further up!🇺🇲✝️🇺🇲

[@BoatDoc98]

Would've been cool to see you shoot it on the long end. I think the Mag would've still been a pass thoough. What were the weights on those Gold Dots?

[@adarshasokansindhya]

Thank you for responding to our requests👍👍👍

[@indianajets]

This my friend was the video I have been waiting on for years... great job

[@Borsia]

I was pretty certain that the Mag would do more damage, but I think the Sig is a better carry

[@merlinnorris817]

Enjoyed the video as always I would be Team 357 Magnum

[@mattostrosky6863]

Love the clay blocks

[@TommyboyGTP]

You forgot to show the expanded Gold Dot! I've seen chrono tests on the Sig and Underwood was clocking in over 1,500 fps! Honestly I like them both

[@rollingthunder277]

Typical Speer projectile weight for the .357 Magnum was probably 158 grains, whereas the typical projectile weight for the .357 Sig is significantly less at 125 grains. This should give indications as to the differences in expansion and penetration for the various rounds.

[@austincassell4741]

This actually shows the difference between how the rounds dump off their energy into the target being shot. The .357 sig dumps it all off quick and I bet the inside of the clay was more messed up than the mag. The mag barely dumped any energy and just blew a clean hole thru it

[@percyvaljenkins]

That same revolver in .357 mag used to be my duty weapon when I worked for the a Sheriff Office as a Jailor. We eventually switch to the Glock 21SF because the revolvers were old and breaking apart.

[@eac1235]

Great vid. Very enjoyable as always. I used my 226 and Taurus 357 in comparison tests years ago and the 357 magnum came out on top 90 percent of time. I used wet telephone books and 5 gallon buckets of wet sand .

[@mikefair816]

I love .357 magnum

[@not-a-golf-r]

Great videos! Glock 31 comes with a 15 round or 10 round magazine. 15+1 or 10+1. Not 14. I have my glock 31 set up to feel and shoot like a 9mm. Tungsten guide rod, ghost trigger connector, TD CNC flat trigger and L2D combat striker kit, upgraded Lantac safety plunger and spring. The 357 sig is more accurate in my opinion because of the semi auto platform plus it shoots flatter than 357 magnum at long distances

[@leroymorris6036]

Thank you Merry Christmas...

[@CM-bo3sm]

Speer is a ferocious round. The sheer impact alone is horrifying.

[@donaldballman2825]

357 mag all day

[@michaelhubbard1711]

Team 357 mag !! 💪🏻 thanks for a great video !

[@brentanderson4304]

Both of these calibers did an excellent job. So it comes down to a matter of personal choice. I've had my 357 for more than forty years and still enjoy shooting it. The more I watch the 357sig perform it's definitely starting to pick my interest

[@jimmieburleigh9549]

Those semi jacketed hollow points are old school and that's what it was designed to do.

[@victorshults242]

357 Mag 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸💪

[@rsbreeze]

.357 magnum

[@bsmith8943]

It's like ur in my mind man!!! Will be interesting to see the kinetic energy difference.

[@TheKentuckyPatriot]

Good stuff my man!

[@thumpersrc3398]

I've got a sig,a single shot H&R. Impressed with your video, thank you for All you do.I sold my Taurus about 12 years ago 😒 I'm a BIG fan of 357,done a lot of testing reloading with that caliber and still learning what each one's temperament. Thank you again, be blessed be safe.

[@Dwayne7834]

Interesting . Good comparison and video

[@aliman3229]

Thank you.

[@DaveL9170]

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[@robertsnyder5149]

I happen to have a model 66 Taurus in .357 Mag and love it.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Awesome

[@williambarnes4612]

Shooting the 300 rum and the elephant gun has given you a flinch

[@brucecoleman7412]

2 awesome rounds!

[@dragonrider385]

Thanks for the video.

[@protector326]

I'm old school but I like both. I really liked the different faces that the rounds created too.

[@terryarnold4492]

I think either one would do the job very well. I’m kinda nostalgic about the .357 mag. My first hand gun was a Ruger Blackhawk in .357 mag, but I wouldn’t feel bad with that .357 Sig either.

[@waynegroves6922]

I would suggest you shoot those clay blocks lengthwise, instead of through the sides - you might have more displacement to the cavity.

[@wyateerp1]

I own 3 .357/.38 Rossi 1892 Triple Black 16.5" lever action, Taurus 687 TRACKER 6 ", And a Pietta Cattleman SAA six . All in .357. All great firearms. I also have GLOCK 40 MOS 6" Kicks like a Mule. love them all. and have more

[@waynecastleman1363]

In 2005 I bought a XD .357 SIG 4 in barrel and it was a really nice pistol. I now have the XD 40 Tactical and installed some Pacmyier combat and shoots nice as well.

[@thatbeme]

Thanks

[@Semyon_Semyonych]

Great video, as usual!

[@briandailey9464]

I always liked the Magnums. The history of 357 magnum the ones that created the 357 magnum wanted to prove how powerful the round was and gave a demonstration. They fired one round into a bullet proof glass used by bank tellers In those days when they introduced it and blew a hole in the window. They apparently have it in a display at a museum.