Why 11.0.7 WILL BE A FLOP in THE WAR WITHIN

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Why 11.0.7 WILL BE A FLOP in THE WAR WITHIN
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[@chengJIA-b7q]

Man it’s so true，starting a solo shuffle with cold hand sucks

[@kantace5198]

I also hate the increased queue times, but I would argue that the disparities that existed prior to the change have been reduced significantly. Especially, when class balance was worse at the start of the expansion. To mitigate the issue, I would do a different approach. We have too many separate game modes for a small-ish player base. Why do many people have ranked anxiety? Because you may get harrased with negative w/l and low CR or you may feel ashamed yourself. So just get rid of these information by default and make it opt-in to see them for yourself and others. Don't show mmr, unless it is >1600 or something and then make a single blitz-ish queue for BGB & rnd BG. At this point, I'd probably also allow 2dps or 2dps + 1 heal. I know, this is very contentious point, but I believe on average it would increase the enjoyment people have. Kill off RBGs and the general brawl rotation, as that stuff is deader than dead anyway. Epic BGs deserve their own existance, because there is a sizable community that enjoys this mode. Arena, I would give a similar treatment. A single round unified flex-queue in the 3v3 format. Some people will say: But then the 3v3 multi glads will dominate and farm no-voice players. Well they do that anyway and we talk about less than 100 people per region. If blitz ladder showed us anything, than that the old guard will get most/all R1s, but there can be a lot of room for new people to get elite/legend.

[@cainrip89]

There is also a deadzone as a healer that gets worse as the season goes on.. its where inflated placements start and about 150 above.. so about 1850-2k where a fresh full greens no enchant alt that has zero idea how to play. It makes it so hard to get out of this mmr. There is someone going 1-5 or 0-6 nearly every lobby. Those people in greens are Qing into 4 set full geared enchanted actual 1850-2k dps and getting blasted.. ive doubled other healers healing over the 6 rounds doing 1.4m hps in some rounds and still 3-3 because the guy in greens is doing 250k dps and everyone else is doing 600-700k. Now my mmr is right at my cr so I have to somehow 5-1 3 lobbies in a row with at least 1 person in greens in every lobby to get out of this black hole

[@nolabets3130]

I got to 636 and quit lol i only need bracers and gloves to complete myth track everything but im done, game feels like a chore now

[@DTWD16]

These clickbait titles from these creators are getting insane

[@ThoGrey]

Where do I clickbait you?

[@Robin...222]

It is gonns be a flop mate. Season already ded. And no one is coming back for this Especially with PoE out

[@stonedruid]

So true, there are so many obvious flaws and they are so stuck in their ways that they refuse to do anything different.

[@SFBay69]

Classic is awful too....its like reheating and eating mcdonalds french fries.

[@ThoGrey]

Frankly, I m loving it. Renews my love for the game if anything. Cant wait for MoP tho!

[@SFBay69]

@ThoGrey when does mop arrive?

[@BasedChadman]

@@ThoGrey I'm stoked about MoP, WoD, and especially Legion again for pure pvp

[@ThoGrey]

@@BasedChadman I don't know if they will ever do a WoD / Legion tho.. we'll have to see!

[@ThoGrey]

@@SFBay69 Summer/Fall

[@sygmarvexarion7891]

Retail is dead. World quest areas are empty, the M+ groups are lowest I have ever seen, and they're mostly just 625-630 ilevel players gatekeeping everyone else and only playing amongst themselves, the random bg queues are like 2-5 min, the trade chat barely moves, and Dornogal is about 10 players short of being a ghost town. And this is all on Ravencrest-EU, the biggest EU server. I feel like people are already checked out and the 1st season is not even over.

[@ThoGrey]

Feels like this, but looking at the comments, it seems I play another game than them?

[@SFBay69]

@@ThoGrey retail is pretty busy still. Just depends when and where

[@MrCarlWax]

It's late in a season. Is this your first time playing an MMO?

[@Robin...222]

Ravencrest-EU isnt the biggest😂😂

[@muttzTV]

Kazzak-EU is the biggest realm.

[@vaylox09]

Yeah wow makes me sad just sitting in queues all day

[@chriscisneros2230]

100% give us a real solo queue

[@FoAllah]

POE 2 is out, wow will be dead for a while.

[@BasedChadman]

Can companies just remove MMR from team-based games already? It never works properly and always creates more problems than solutions. I've even seen GM MOBA players make smurfs and get stuck in ELO hell for weeks, when they play the game all day. The system weights between wins and losses where you can win and gain absolutely nothing always feels bad no matter how good you are at the game. Invent a new rating system ffs.

[@ThoGrey]

MMR is truly a 1v1 metric from chess. Its hard to have a good system for team based gamemodes especially "shuffle" where its not even team based anymore

[@BasedChadman]

@ThoGrey One aspect I always found odd is how I can go 20 and 0 in a match of League or Smite, lose because I have two people feeding the brains out, and lose 40 mmr, then win my next match when the competition is pretty close and the final teamfight gave us the victory, and only gain 5. Shuffle is probably the absolute worst MMR system I have seen, especially for the reasons you listed about healers playing a whole different game. I miss the days of loose ELO and divisions, where you win more and climb up to whatever the grandmaster equivalent is over time and resets only happening on major updates instead of short seasons.

[@cainrip89]

You should carry if you have 20 kills.. the problem is mmr can't calculate impact.. it can't go on just total healing or dmg people would just pad.. there are too many things that go into winning an arena than just output.. the issue is mmr.. it needs to not reset every season it needs to drop maybe 300 from where you ended and 3-3 in shuffle for healer should be considered a win smaller mmr and cr gain but a win.. 1 bad and/or undergeared dps is free rating for other dps its almost a guarantee 3-3 and God forbid you lose a round you should win because someone gets popped or lines you and you 2-4 as a healer.healers almost always 3-3 a lobby there is almost always a weak link dps

[@twotamatos]

Psh Worgans need a better racial night elf’s are so broken there is no reason to roll em even though they r the only furry class that ever fit the bill of a wow race

[@glennvanrymenant3118]

I really hope u find hapiness

[@ThoGrey]

In classic atm. Outside of it, i m a very happy man tbh. Waiting for retail to be BiS again tho

[@marcwinner567]

@@ThoGrey Glad to hear it mate! Especially outside, you found a programming job? Im still looking

[@Demonsouls1993]

title is click bait all he crys about is pvp

[@ThoGrey]

How is it clickbait. Wouldnt it be clickbait if it was about pve?

[@Burgerklauer]

just quit the game if you dislike it so much. sounds odd but why care so much

[@ThoGrey]

I think you have gotten the answer in the video tho.

[@lout9231]

Nah I've gone to classic hc instead of just doing the same shit over and over for rewards that feel less and less worth it

[@ThoGrey]

No HC for me tho. I like pvp too much. Lvl 44 priest and killing all hordes on sight.

[@stoutside]

really smart to split the player base between 10 different pvp modes, not to mention all the key levels for mplus and raid difficulties... 4 different versions of the game... add in plunderstorm and a remix.

[@Robin...222]

Not every one wants the same mate. Some people want challanges to. You have a brain rot take

[@stoutside]

@@Robin...222 did I say to remove challenges?

[@Robin...222]

@stoutside no but you didnt like different key Stones. And how higher they are how more of a challange it is

[@YNraged]

stopped watching at 1 min and downvoted. this dude needs to just stop playing the game if its so terrible. why spread the negativity? I dont think the devs will watch a 30 min video of some random nobody crying about how bad everything is.

[@pika166]

i cant even wach the video, i just stick to the comments looking for something like TL:DR.

[@ThoGrey]

Blind positivity, gotcha.

[@Amabar]

Don't worry, I'll upvote to compensate. Players like you is why Blizzard is so comfortable releasing trash, because you'll play WoW regardless.

[@sharkstaint1373]

@@ThoGrey crying over negativity ain't solving anything , give good introduction , not a doomer negativity with a depressed voice tone , the introduction of something is what keeps people watching and interested , the moment you started exhaling over every word , people think your just gonna keep crying the whole vid , like whats the point , if you guys want stuff fixed go to forums , start a trend , give suggestions that actually make sense , and consider the downside before giving the suggestions , right now wow retail is in crisis from everyone perspective , quazi gave a whole spreadsheet of m+ suggestions , do the same on what you want to be in the game , thats what marcelian also do , people like to listen to suggestions.

[@YNraged]

@@Amabar go ahead and make a crying video to blizzard, im sure they will watch it. make sure you add a negative tone of voice as well. dont forget the clickbait title too.

[@MattSealey]

These titles are garbage 👎

[@ThoGrey]

Oi

[@dad.spielt]

Lets leave retail behind

[@BasedChadman]

Yeah, I'm done. 4 xpacs in a row where I dip in and out because they just can't give me any reason to stick around. The pve is boring and repetitive, and pvp gets such bare bones changes even when there's utterly broken trash in the game on both ends.

[@michaelb9683]

LOL arena been dead a LONG time. Its too difficult for most and too complicate for most. Solo Shuffle is the future sorry. and the Solo RBG que. I think 2 and 2 and 3 vs 3 should still be there just for fun.

[@ThoGrey]

Soloq is the future, but solo shuffle isnt. Or you mean the future is sitting in 20min queues for ever? Lmao