Why 2020 was the BEST (and worst) thing that could happen to iRacing

[@dannyleeracing]

I can see how the oval side may have suffered for sure, given that when someone's being a menace, you might encounter them multiple times per race and triggering cautions all the time. On the road side it affects you a lot less due to no safety cars and the general separation of the field, so provided you don't get caught up in their accident, you can largely completely ignore it and race on. The numbers boost seems to have absolutely invigorated the simulator. I remember being amazed once when an MX5 race had 100 people registered. Now it's in the hundreds almost every time. A lot of the most impressive and fun people I've raced with, especially in leagues, only arrived in iRacing in the past few years. I definitely consider this past few years, especially the last 2, to be a whole new level for iRacing and considering what it's led to, I owe a lot to iRacing for staying pretty much true and consistent to its values.

[@Raffah95]

Professor ARCA and the history of modern iRacing. (In all seriousness, your documentaries are part of what pulled me into iRacing, along with my friends who were on the platform, and a particular Dutch racing driving.)

[@kalebbryan4012]

As someone who came on late, every time I'm in a chat with you or others that have been around for a while it does make me question whether I missed something really nice and comfortable by showing up late to the show. However, I do agree with the more positive ending to the video. You just gotta find your people that you run with consistently. Having a group of folks that you can always register for a race with and have a good time is a much more fun experience than just running races solo quietly in your room. The community and the people I've met are the biggest part of why I stuck around and continue to put so much time into iRacing. Even if there are the consistent weapons and issue-drivers, they are far less numerous than the genuine good people that you can come across.

[@ikeshelley5987]

I joined iRacing in 2020 but had experience racing in leagues on the heat games and Nascar 15 so I was already understood that race craft and giving people respect is important and necessary, ive noticed that the higher up i got in iRating (I’m now 4.7k) and qualifying for the College Series A-mains that it is all take and no give. No one has any patience and it is super frustrating.

[@NASCAR_Junk]

I mellowed out and started trying to save tires and take it easy, but you can’t do that in NASCAR series, you just get driven through. I really like the Gen 4 series though, minimal cautions and more skill based.

[@jameszeng2666]

I am a 2024 racer, but thanks to the community. I started out in rookie with the sole mission to not crash. I made it to A license in one season. And yes I am slow, but I am also clean and respectful

[@RacingWithChuck27]

Brought a lot “gamers” in and lack of racecraft, squirrels 🐿️

[@DJYeeJay]

I’ve always considered myself a “gamer” even before 2020, I think the difference is the examples people had prior were a lot more in line with what iracing wanted to be

[@RacingWithChuck27]

@@DJYeeJaymy thinking of gamers are like bf2-3-4 where you run and gun, die repeat. I’m not the fastest but I prepare for races. That’s why I’ve never been a big fan of fixed racing or short races. Short races aren’t as bad because your car doesn’t change much as the run is short. I’m more of a RC racer but getting back to ovals with trucks and xfinity. Your videos are good and I agree about your low line. Did a truck Leavy race at Fontana, running low while everyone running high. At the end of the (stage) run I had reeled 3 cars in and passed them. The stage racing ruins saving tires 😢. Thanks for the videos

[@brunz24xxx]

It's a pandemic that won't end lol

[@under6977]

Last week for me been the worst for iracing. I so close on hanging to hat up and get something cheaper iracing.

[@Skrufylookin]

You have improved my race style and craft. Thank you for all the tip videos

[@Sethsimracing]

Sadly I never got to experience the "old" iRacing because I joined in 2023(not because of virtual NASCAR racing, but because I finally got a G29), and I can say the racing was a lot less clean than I expected from the top-dog sim. However, I was most certainly also part of the problem. :D So I watched lots of YT videos on proper racecraft, proper sportsmanship and, etc. and got lots better, at least I think so. 😂

[@JKRacing24]

Great video man! You know what else has blown up since 2020 just as fast as iRacing? Your channel. Ive been a fan since your ARCA guides from a couple years ago. Its great watching this channel grow to over 40,000 subs. Keep it up dude.

[@DJYeeJay]

I appreciate it 😁

[@chrisstevens917]

As someone who joined iRacing in March 2019 (exactly 1 year before Covid) I've definitely noticed the change in iRacing even after being on for just 1 year. There's definitely a lot more people that treat it like Nascar Heat when it's not it's actually realistic and needs to be treated as such. That being said as frustrating as it is for myself and the long timers to see the change this boost has helped bring more content and update existing content to the platform and helped out with issues that existed before 2020. At the end of the day this boost was probably needed to allow this platform to continue and grow.

[@ic3man]

iRacing also allegedly threatened to ban Scott Dixon for saying that the Indycar on iRacing wasn’t realistic and it didint handle like an actual Indycar and Roger Penske (who took over Indycar at the end of 2019) allegedly had to threaten to pull out all the other Indycar drivers from the iRacing series and iRacing had to swallow the “pride pill.” Loads of other drivers also criticized iRacing for the lack of realistic grip.

[@jameslauback]

2020 iRacer here. I'm sad to have not gotten to experience pre-2020 iRacing. All I know is the experience that you articulated here. A service that is unable to competently run most short tracks for example. Like Martinsville, whether it's a 5k+ SOF NIS race or a standard A/B/C class race, the number of cautions is pretty much always staggering. It stinks that most people just expect this now and don't know that anything different is even possible. That maybe the right group of drivers could load up Martinsville and not spend 80% of the time pacing. But all in all this is a very fair assessment of iRacing's growth. Great stuff.

[@cbremer83]

I recently came back to iracing after years of being away. Life stuff. I started in 2011. Left in 2013. Came back for a couple months in 2018 when rallycross was added. Now I am back since august. Granted, I had some skill rot to get cleaned up. But damn, things are rough in some series now. Even in top splits. Personally, ovals have been the worst of the worst. Not every race, but far more than road or formula cars. I am shocked how many drivers think taking other drivers out is "just racing."

[@OCinneide]

I joined iRacing in 2020 and it was my first sim racing game. I had a mate who did a lot of iRacing since early 2010s show me the ins and outs and that really helped me realise that you have to take the races seriously, your driving and sportsmanship matters. I found a niche in the Formula Renualt series and then moved over to the Super Formula series. I haven't raced in about six months now though, I'm in college, busy with work and life. I actually did look back at my first ever race on the series to see where everyone was, out of all the drivers I believe (I did the check a while ago) more than 50% of the drivers didn't have another race ever again a week after that race. These drivers were the top three and bottom ten. The only drivers who are still actively (within the past two years, one I even raced this year) racing were between 4th and 10th. Kind of middle of the road. It was interesting to see. There was one guy who was 900iR back in 2020 and when I checked his profile even with consistent races over the last four years and the licence changes he was still 900iR. He finished bottom mid in that race. I found in the top split of the formula cars there was a community, but since I'm European more than half had either no english or basic english. I did get in with a community of FR drivers but that series died. But the Super Formula split I still see the same names in every race and know most of the drivers and their styles when I have put in the practice to actually drive.

[@Hexadeci]

I’ve had the same experience with formula. You’ll see the same people a lot especially if you are top split. Your timezone determines a lot though. Most B/C series are down to one split when I race.

[@OCinneide]

@ yeah, I was working evenings over the summer so racing 1pm GMT and it was a completely different crowd to when I raced evenings GMT. But still one split.

[@Dallas_Matt]

Been Sim Racing since about 1999 and been at iRacing since 2008. I too love Sim Racing and was happy to see that growth of this hobby we all love so much. You do a great job, love your channel. If you are ever in DFW hit me up.

[@NozFoxGaming]

Great video as usual and you made me laugh with the Larson joke and camera pan 😂

[@MonopostoMerchant]

Loving the paper YT Play button in the back btw But in all seriousness thats not ideal. I joined in June this year and always try to race fair. However it can’t be helped when someone wants to be Max Verstappen

[@DJYeeJay]

That play button is my prized possession 😂

[@LithFox]

This is an excellent video covering the logical reasons why iRacing has been the way it's been the past few years, why it'll get better, and a major reason why "growth at any cost" is not a great mentality to have. I've joked about it on the forums a bit, but I've kinda leaned into "We should be gatekeeping more" as a functional way not to prevent folks from joining, but to make sure that folks who do join WANT to be a part of the community and actively participate in both the activities and social contracts we share here. Oddly, that statement and that (horribly incorrect) anti-cheat post I made a while back, have been major reasons I've been pushing to be better about my attitude towards others. And I agree that I think iRacing's growth has been a net positive, but they have to keep their mindset on what their original vision was, not how to keep growing for investors. And that concerns me. It's also funny that this video was released around the same time I was talking about this stuff on stream. Didn't even watch it until just now and I'm like "Oh god damn I'm not the only one noticing this. Good." Also, we need some more pillars of the community like you. :) Good vid. Keep it up.

[@spdyspks]

iRacing will never be what it used to be. My memory of green flag pit stops at Martinsville NiS feels like a fever dream.

[@NASCAR_Junk]

I remember burning up my tires on 200 lap Bristol runs.

[@camracing1366]

The nascar pro invitational series was what inspired me to get into the whole iracing thing I was 12 at the time and didn’t really have the money to buy a pc,wheel, and other stuff I got a wheel in the summer the following year and just built a pc in the summer I’d say it was definitely worth the wait and the money spent my setup still isn’t the greatest but it’ll do for the moment

[@James-Vining-333]

I remember this Justin, I joined in 12/18) and I believe it was 20S4 and almost all of 21) that I could not run a single NIS race without getting destroyed by the New users that said over and over again that "This is just a Game" when they took someone out and that person was irritated with them. For me I do not spend between 2-5 hours building a setup and then running enough laps to complete 3 or 4 races worth of laps tuning it to not have a bit of an issue when someone just flat out wrecks you. I started in 96 playing the original GT (Gran Turismo) on PS1 then got a PS2 and GT 2 and 3. I never spent that much time practicing etc as that was just a game. Fire it up after work race a hour or 2 and then done, I do not even feel comfortable joining a iRacing session unless I have at Min 30 min of practice in and that is just due to me running the tracks so many times sine 2018,

[@barrettcarpenter1745]

I joined iracing almost a year ago. I would still say that if you race the same series at the same times consistently, you definitely learn and recognize the people you race around. The ability to have good fin conversations with certain people is sometimes a surprise, but always welcome. I still think that the iracers who are in it for the fun and community can still have that, and the rest of the lobby tends to stay relatively quiet

[@mrf4speed743]

As someone who’s been around iRacing since 2010, I always find the “the racing was so much better, now everybody just wrecks each other” argument to not hold so much weight. Even in iRacing’s infancy lobbies were full of people saying “the racing was so much more respectful on NR2003, I’m gonna go back to that” and what not. I think aside from just the vehicles themselves creating more parody and a much larger fixed racing community (when I first joined none of the NASCAR oval series were fixed) the general racecraft has been about the same for 15 years aside from the COVID spike.

[@TheUnofficialiRacer]

Hey Dj! I was in a pickup cup race with u a few days ago. Doubt you’d remember my username but we raced for the win in the final few laps (u beat me 😅😂). I respect veteran drivers like you and it’s always a pleasure to race with people who actually know good racecraft. I had joined the service in early 2021 after the surge in popularity. But unlike most newer racers of that time, I had a different mentality… I took it seriously. I learned car control quickly, then pace, and as I raced with people, I learned racecraft (and to only be aggressive when absolutely necessary for that matter 😂) Over the past 4 years I’ve achieved those goals and I’m continually growing on both road courses and ovals. I just wish more people would treat it like this and it’s a shame that poor racing has become rather universal on the sim lately. I also I wish I could’ve been on the service in the 2010s just to experience that “community” feeling you talk about. But thats why I race pickup and carburetor cup most of the time. Not because I’m afraid of losing iRating and SR, but for the common reoccurring drivers I see who I can trust as good racers who know good racecraft. But all in all I think that this is good for the service. Not for the racing, but for finances… which can help create new content and updates quicker and overall make the sim more realistic.

[@DJYeeJay]

@@TheUnofficialiRacer oh ya I remember that, it was my first pickup cup race in a while and it was a great one really fun battling it reminded me of a really good top split arca race! Thanks for the input

[@dinkidink5912]

I've been around since the first few rounds of invites in 2008, it's tough to remember exactly how it used to be because it's quite a long time ago now but it's sad that multiple big wrecks every race has become the norm. I used to race a lot of official races but mostly stick to leagues now or the longer races like the enduros or IMSA Endurance. The aggression level is way up and the on track respect is down, streamers also haven't exactly helped the situation either. As you've said though there has been a lot of benefits to the increased income stream that iRacing now have and it's still my main hobby.

[@thetechfromheaven]

I always hated how Timmy Hill never got a shot for a good cup or xfinity ride after the Pro Invitational series.

[@FN_IRacer]

perfect timing! have been running indycar oval a lot this week, I love Michigan with the indycars, or any car really. but anyways, I've done about 4 races this week, and I have finished one. only one of the wrecks could have arguably been by fault, but I still gave the other guy a lane and a half to work with (on the straight btw). Anyway, sorry for the rant, but any indycar 2nd split guys reading this, NO TOUCHING. P.S. I'm also a newcomer, but I try to race as cleanly as possible. I'll apologise to someone if I so much as tap them in the corner, even if they don't get loose. It's funny, but I feel more inclined to race cleanly in iRacing than I do in karting because there is no damage and such with the karts, and nobody else knows how to drive or give space.

[@ArturoDrives]

I joined about 6 months ago. And its been the best purchase Ive made for a long time. Iracing brings extremely high highs, and very low lows. Just like the thrill of real racing, thats why I love it.

[@TBolt1]

I REALLY appreciate you doing this video. I spent this entire season in Road racing, and things were fine. Then, I spent the last 1 ½ weeks in the Draft Master series, and that convinced me that iRacing is just full of casual gamers who don’t give a damn about any sort of fair racing. iRacing doesn’t care about removing the worst gamers - it’s all money for iRacing.

[@brkinwrx6200]

I got iRacing late 2020 and while yes I did make mistakes and crash w people at first the whole time I knew that iRacing was the most ‘prestigious’ sim game so I was always trying my best to be clean. Others tho will be max verstappen every opportunity and just be happy racing rookie/d class forever

[@liambrotherton]

I can't speak of anything prior to 2017 but I can speak from that moment forward. As much as I want to blame covid, real life racing, shifting morals, etc I don't think they played a massive role on oval. The biggest shift I ever experienced was the implementation of RTP with the Truck rather than all Pro level competition being run with the Cup car. Followed closely by the implementation of NDM onto the oval cars. Prior to RTP we used to race a car that significantly separated the field and created an environment where the best drivers respected the car/track and didn't mind pulling left on a straight and just letting guys go since that was the fastest and least risky way to race. When we shifted to the truck that quickly started to unravel and the racing took a massive step down. Then in 2019 the Cup car got turned into the Truck and so that same aggressive mentality that worked in the truck spread to the Cup car. This mentality has since incubated for years without any car (minus the very infrequently used 87 and Gen4) that would teach anyone something different. Then when we got NDM I was really excited that a lot of the wrecks we used to experience (namely the RF->LR jump contact) would go away and we'd all start seeing cleaner races. Unfortunately the drivers all collectively learned the limits and pushed right to that. Which sounds like it shouldn't have made a difference however on almost all of the car the penalty for damage went WAY down (which is more realistic for oval cars) and that added a massive incentive to drive much more aggressive. Now you don't really get punished for contact that wrecks another driver. Back before NDM is wasn't uncommon for something as small as ~0.3 seconds of damage to cost you 1-3 tenths per lap. I do agree with everything you deposit in the video I just think its like ~20% to blame for the shift in standards on ovals.

[@DJYeeJay]

Good point that might be something I explore in a later vid

[@ming454]

I broke so I ususally drive rookie series and in high splits I see the same names pretty often

[@rampant5139]

IIRC, iRacing was profitable by 2020, but just barely. I think it was in 2019 when they turned a profit for the first time. They talk about it on one of the very old iRacing downshift episodes, I think

[@DJYeeJay]

Thanks for the info

[@DOWN200TOWN]

we're trying brother 😎

[@ilbald4052]

I've started racing in iracing a couple months ago because it's the only good oval racing platform. Yesterday I tried a craftman race in Atlanta, but since the first lap everybody tried to be first. Half of the people made it to the end. I hoped that at least in the C class I would find some though full driving... I'll have to reach the B class hoping to find some experienced drivers to do proper superspeedway races

[@mlgordita]

Wonder if this growth in 2020 gave rise to Oval fixed session popularity whereas older days maybe had drivers exchanging setup tips and tricks

[@TChapman500Gaming]

Seems that racing quality in general has taken a nose dive. I still remember when superspeedways were clean at the end.

[@NASCAR_Junk]

Second and third split NIS is pretty good at superspeedways

[@RyanLikens]

2020 was quite interesting 😭

[@landonmurray3814]

When did yall get that ice like tire model? Was that before or after the covid boom?

[@DJYeeJay]

I think iracing moved to v7 in like 2018

[@jdwalker9718]

I agree with you on iRacing seeming like a big league pre 2020. As part of that, our community was self policing. Act like an idiot and most regular racers in a series would know. You would not get a inch from anyone. Now the size of iRacing and a new user base requires a different attitude. It's more of a "I'll drive you like you drive me" attitude to survive in the more competitive lobbies. It really mirrors the environment you will find in most competitive sport. People are not willing to give an inch at any time and if you give it, you better be ready to take it. Those who are more interested in the old community feel are best served by doing their research and joining a league in the step with their expectations of what racing is and how it's governed. There are quite a few service members that don't touch public lobbies anymore and are still as satisfied with the product they receive as ever. It's just a matter of understanding one's expectations and going to the part of iRacing that will best serve those expectations.

[@strovich]

iRacing logic. VLDLs series ft DJ Yee

[@SwigerQ86]

every single race, someone brings out a cation at the end of the race so they can all catch up and get fresh tires. I did an excel sheet for 6 months, and its crazy how people manipulate the races with cautions,

[@tbuckets14]

Ive felt that way myself but havent documented or researched to know for sure. I remember back in the day i won plenty of races on long green flag runs and saving my tires, but it seems like the last couple years i can name maybe two or three races that DIDNT have a caution with a few laps to go. I’ve always just assumed it was aggression since it was coming to the end, but it happens so frequently now that ive wondered if it was intentional. It’s every race and it’s always someone in the back. Idk if it’s them wanting to bunch people back up to get more spots or if they’re paid by people towards the front who want a chance to win, but it’s way too common to just be coincidence

[@BW_87]

I joined in 2022. Maybe I wasn’t there during the worst of the 2020 new players but I’ve never had a really bad time with bad drivers. Obviously there are a few in the races I do but not like how is described daily on Reddit. Maybe I’m just lucky 🤷‍♂️

[@simonolsen9995]

If iRacing was a global democracy, you'd have my vote for President.

[@JeremyLeech]

I joined in July of 2019. I loved seeing everyone hop on. Until I met them in a lobby lol

[@RyCamN7]

From the oval side it will be interesting to see if the console game pulls away some of the more unserious crowd that want to just drive around and laugh about wrecks.

[@RedSliceGaming34]

Yea pre-2020 dirt scene was different aswell. Now its worse

[@DaRaginCajun81]

A lot of us drivers have limited time due to life family work ect... So when you squeeze an extra hour or 2 for the sim and some jack ass wrecks you on the first lap is infuriating. But thats iracing.

[@pirotehs]

Grass was greener video. Whatever. IMHO 2020 maybe impacted iRacing for less than a year. Nobody races iracing now in a style "I am doing this because I saw it on TV in 2020" p.s. You are doing THAT!

[@RacingWithChuck27]

How about eric Hudec calling out Joseph Newgarden “he’s not a sim racer” That comment was made when Joseph said their tire was junk 😆

[@jacekatalakis8316]

Not just that but at the time,you had the allegations of iR or teams shushing drivers who were critical of the series after Newgarden's comments as well though

[@RacingWithChuck27]

@@jacekatalakis8316it was pretty ugly calling out a Indy car champion. They’re supposed to be simulating and wanting real drivers Input. The tires should be getting a lot better with the former rf2 tire guru

[@corvettezone1771]

what race was the clip at 7:50 from?

[@DJYeeJay]

It’s a vid on iRacing’s channel like “the biggest wreck ever” or something

[@TheFelloMello]

One of these videos you should just bless us with you singing the outro song bad enough to where they can't get you

[@johannes7059]

Very interesting perspective, I joined in 2021, so I did not experience it.

[@FastCashCulp]

Off topic but you look like Mike Shanota from linkin park

[@DirtTrackRacing410]

I just bought iracing the other day I’m a dirt oval guy and I was getting tired of the crappy arcade style world of outlaws game they’ve released twice now, imo iracing is worth it. I’m having so much fun. That being said dirt is hard and I’ve had it for a week now and I haven’t even joined an online race cause I’m scared of getting a bad safety rating

[@blackmac1970]

I think you get that community by racing in the smaller less popular series.

[@justinkrizenesky]

iRacing hasn't been the same since, and it's not for the better. I miss 2013-2016 iRacing ):

[@brad.979.]

no it hasnt, iracing got better

[@jamesjanik5878]

Its funny because real racing is "worse" than it was in the past according to most people. Idk, i joined in 2020 and from the very beginning there were people that have no business in a race with other people lol

[@cob_90]

no one to blame here except iracing for being incredibly lax with reports so we've been in the fuck around stage for a while.

[@huludical1]

Does oval not have an SR system or something? 😆

[@joenathan3005]

iRacing isn’t even that popular, i don’t get this sentiment at all. It’s always stuck at around 10,000 people… lots of dead series.

[@NASCAR_Junk]

Joined in 2019. my iRating shot up 2,000 points because the new drivers sucked. I miss green flag runs though.

[@axxessdenied]

I just got back into iRacing and got the oval bug again. It's so much fun. But, good lord are there too many entitled drivers on the track with a mic that need to shut up.

[@Nascar_nerd11]

It’s kinda funny ur a Kyle Larson fan and u kinda look like him

[@oleskool6259]

I've been around just 2 years and its gotten worse and personally im not sure if its worth the bullshit. You practice and race your guts out only to get run over basically blind sided by some idiot thats usually a disrespectful smart-ass that doesn't even bother to apologize. I'm not a get off my lawn kinda old prick. I'm easy-going and blown away about how pissed off people get. Im Surprised things haven't gotten crazier especially thinking about some of the crazy people from the past i know. But until it hits somebody's wallet, it'll be this way.

[@777HPNEXTGEN]

A lot of scrubs came from console racing and they got banned within a week.

[@EricK-fr9fe]

I joined 2022. Never really had a terrible time. Especially once you get around 2k irating. I have 4.99 sa and it’s not even hard to maintain it. Think you guys complaining just don’t like the added competition messing up your manicured iratings….

[@villain6634]

Joined 2021 when I got up in the ranks I eventually caught up to the 2020 people it was genuinely terrible until I hit 2k in 2022

[@villain6634]

Race craft also is significantly worse

[@NielsHeusinkveld]

For the premier online racing platform, it showed just how much they neglected to improve the netcode, car contacts, damage, but most of all some form of automatic stewarding. It's just another online game with certainly not the best netcode. Unsafe rejoining, weaving, wrecking, surely some of it can be caught by the game, but it just seems to not even consider trying.

[@mrb552]

Hopefully iRacing can implement some type of AI monitoring in the future. I personally haven't experienced netcode issues in the past four years but I am running at 250mbps up and down. The racing is also drastically better in higher splits. BTW, I have been using your Sprints on my sim rig for the last four years and love them. Thanks for making great products. 🙂🏁

[@FlameDragon72]

I don't think the change in driving standards can be attributed to 2020, when you look at real racing it is getting far more aggressive as well in all disciplines. People are getting their ideas of racecraft from what they see every weekend irl. Also, some of the very worst driving I've seen on iRacing has come from 10+ year old accounts! I think the sim racing community as a whole, in every game, has let racing standards slip vs 5/10 years ago.

[@thrawnjan]

"iracing users exploded" 💀

[@DJYeeJay]

Lol I used the word “explode” 3 times this vid it must’ve been the Taco Bell I ate

[@kloosternator]

As a person that experienced the old iracing the boom ruined iracing it’s more like console racing now a days

[@HeretixAevum]

If there's a console game that has racing as good as iRacing, I'll quit and play that instead. Much cheaper!

[@jordanfehlman]

Denny Hamlin Buzz Kill. BOOO DH Rules! lol

[@f15strikeeagle10]

Saying this game is top dog doesn't really make sense anymore. A company riding on the coat-tails of papyrus and nr2003 over 20 years later and charging a subscription fee for it, versus industry competitors that release new multiple new titles that all elevate the genre. iracers cant even recommend their game in good conscious. No one else makes oval sims so enjoy their stale bread and butter, while knowing that it was built 20 years ago and you are being charged through the nose for the work of now retired people. Seriously nr2003 feels almost as good as 2024 iracing, more of a testament to nr2003 than a dis to iracing. Driving trucks at watkins with ai in iracing when? Never going to happen even with all that money thrown in the corporate monkey cage. Iracing will go just like world of warcraft, you will never be able to say when it's dead, but you can see when it's past its peak. Look at what nascar has become, do you think John Henry cares about racing? This is now a rant, and this corporate shell operating out of the corpse of papyrus refuses to deliver anything beyond the mediocrity it regurges up because it is clearly motivated by greed. It will be out paced and out worked because it is a bloated uninspired uncreative disgrace of a company. Kunos is top dog if we are basing it on players, engagement, reality, math, science, what goes on outside, etc.

[@DJYeeJay]

@@f15strikeeagle10 nah I don’t agree

[@KennanSel-yl8nw]

Bro you look like my fav driver Kyle Larson with out your mustache and it’s not cause you Asian

[@GRamerDim]

cry about it gatekeeper (i haven't watched the video)

[@YeTi-307]

iRacing will continue to be shit unless they steward official races. we pay for a SUB and TRACKS and CARS ... I won't be back until they do

[@HeretixAevum]

Lmao, good luck with that. Do you have any idea how expensive it would be to have employees on 24/7 to steward all races? Expect the cost of the service to go up at least 10x.

[@andreasmoller9798]

Greedy game.