Why 8Ball & MJG Don’t Get Recognition Like Other Southern Groups Stunted Growth Music

[@chrisgibson2106]

They are respected by probably every artist in hip hop

[@MackTatum]

Eightball and MJG are legends in Hip-Hop/Rap PERIOD!! They never stunted in my opinion.

[@A_Dubb618]

Exactly. This is so disrespectful

[@yirmiyahyisrael1512]

100% agreed I never knew anyone thought they had stunted growth they are legendary

[@RiVer-Parish]

Dude tripping hard on he fucked up on this video.

[@17thN.O]

​@@A_Dubb618Nobody or style stays on top of the industry forever. Ball and G are legends forever. Even their Bad Boy record is a classic.

[@17thN.O]

Even their solo albums are classics that I bought.

[@deadshot6741]

Forever Legends in my book

[@jamesgibson3716]

Freaking facts.... Coming out Hard will forever be a classic

[@RiVer-Parish]

8ball&Mjg will always have respect from the State of Louisiana.

[@17thN.O]

F'n right! We been bump in them hard since the mid 90's. Since I was in high school.

[@lonniejenkins5008]

Mississippi too!

[@RiVer-Parish]

@17thN.O My older been taught us about them dudes since we were in middle school 😆.

[@RiVer-Parish]

@lonniejenkins5008 Dude must've never heard the song "Meal Ticket" with them Master P and Ugk before.

[@TexasBorn_TexasRaised]

In Texas too. In a major way!

[@whotheproducer]

Paid dues is a classic

[@jamesgibson3716]

This is an episode I wasn't expecting but glad it dropped. Classic rap duo that could do no wrong in my eyes.

[@17thN.O]

I feel the same way.

[@jamusjones5237]

@@jamesgibson3716 Exactly , none at all , . ?

[@lonniejenkins5008]

8 ball Lost was a classic hit the like button if you agree!

[@Solodolo84]

Best triple disc project ever. Period. Full stop. The third verse on artist pays the price tells you everything you need to know about the industry. I wrote a essay about that verse in speech class about cultural significance and the usefulness of art.

[@jamusjones5237]

It was an impeccable & untouchable albums 🐬 , period , . ??? both of them , & mjg album glory , 🐬 , . ??

[@Solodolo84]

@@jamusjones5237 aye, how you know it was flames, when they did the 2nd run, they took that bonus cd out. That's how you know suave house knew they had some real heat.

[@jamusjones5237]

​@Solodolo84 Exactly , !!!

[@GeeMoney843]

it was and at the time i was an MJG fan. that was my go to guy. but that Lost was just classic material

[@17thN.O]

I have loved Ball and G since the mid 90's when my brother put my on to them. They're music is timeless and they are legends. Salute to Orange Mound, Memphis from New Orleans.

[@ContextReallyMatters]

Same. I still bump Ball and G regularly. Their music has aged well. I'm also from New Orleans from out the 8th ward.

[@patrickamtman4804]

These two are always and forever SPACE AGE PIMPNG AND COMIN OUT HARD!!!!!!💯💯😁

[@17thN.O]

F'n right!

[@KrucialKAAAA912]

Forever spoke on in the south.Im from Georgia and our list is pretty much always OutKast,Ghetto Boyz,Ball N G and UGK.Its always the argument.

[@ziggamon]

8ball and MJG were always top 10 rap duos of all time for me!

[@Yourmomgoestocolledge]

Them, UGK and Wayne are my top 3.

[@scooblov]

That era was wild! We had classic music everywhere!

[@MartianTerror17]

One of my all time favorite hip hop groups. Comin Out Hard was my introduction. I got to see them perform live back in 2010 when I was in college.

[@therealmarlonbellamy]

Eightball & MJG put Memphis on the map. They opened up the floodgates for artists such as Three Six Mafia, Project Pat, Yo Gotti, Young Dolph, Moneybagg Yo & Glorilla. You should do Kris Kross next.

[@shauncameron8390]

Also Pooh Shiesty and Blac Youngsta.

[@17thN.O]

You're right, they did put Memphis on the map.

[@andrataylor6070]

You did your homework! 💪🏿💪🏿🔥

[@cameronvaughn8434]

They fasholy did and im a Cali nigga!! #comingouthard

[@dnredd1811]

Actually Gangsta Pat opened the door for Memphis artist

[@BMiles84ConsciousChannel2]

8-BALL AND MJG ARE SOUTHERN LEGENDS FOR A REASON!!! NO STUNTED GROWTH AT ALL FOR THEM. THEY PUT OUT AMAZING WORK AND WORKED WITH SOME OF THE BEST RAPPERS IN THE GAME!!! THEY DIDN'T SELL OUT. THEY DID THEIR THING IN THE GAME AND ARE LEGENDS!!!!

[@chrisgibson2106]

Can you do Dayton Family next?

[@gregwhite7852]

👍🏿

[@216standonit4]

FBI

[@MsOctober30]

Omgg I still listen to them!! My fav song is Pimpz🔥🔥🔥

[@shawnanderson466]

I'd argue they maxed they potential as a group more than most...They ain't have jail and the grave split them apart like UGK- R.I.P Pimp C...& unlike 'Kast they actually wanted to make music together...Them 2 made solo albums and still always came back together for more albums or songs as 8Ball & MJG...they probly the tighest duo ever....Stunted only by the industry really...

[@17thN.O]

I agree, they was "stunted" by the industry due to them not being "commercial". I love them as a group more than Outkast because they actually are friends and wanted to make music together.

[@Aceboogie83]

I’m from nyc and eightball and mjg is my favorite group from the south. When I get married I’m gonna play space age pimpin at my wedding 🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿😂

[@benignobrionesiii]

That's a bad jam.

[@ThugNinja]

Check out that song eightball did with mobb deep

[@boris_toejoe]

​@@ThugNinja "... a maverick, my HK ah work magic......" - Murda Muzik

[@harveymcelroy9332]

Lol that's my shit

[@Dantana773]

8 Ball & MJG are hip hop legends They might not have had the commercial success but the STREETS and HOODS across The Country They Got Major Air Play. Both are Lyrical and can tell Relateable Stories, MJG Verse on" Pimps like us " On that Comin Out hard Ablum is a go to anf that beat go hard. Guess growing up in the midwest we enjoyed music from all Regions, Salute from Chicago to 8ball n MJG

[@cishansen4162]

Grew up on them and I'm from suburban middle class Australia. 8Ball and MJG are so special. 8Ball's solo double album Lost, is still a criminally underrated classic. Still bump them to this day. Would never have known about the historic community of Orange Mound and its rich history not just in Memphis, but the USA as a whole without them.

[@theveteran8546]

Coming out hard and space age pimpin’ still I rotation. Southern Pioneers of hip hop/ country rap tunes🫡

[@abrasiveangel]

I'm glad they didn't blow up mainstream or we wouldn't have gotten so many classic songs and albums. They are southern legends with LONGEVITY and still making music today.

[@SitChoahhDownTV]

Man these two guys Resonated with a group of ppl who they don't make any more. Lyrical, Context, Story's, They was just ahead of The times.

[@mrworkowt5419]

Always Legends

[@thenewjord50]

You should do Gangsta Pat he also helped Ball and G and Pat was the first Memphis rapper to sign to a major deal in the turn of the 90s and also do another Memphis icon Al Kapone who help Hustle and Flow

[@terrywrightjr4545]

My favorite rap group all time and I'm born, raised, and reside in California!

[@rayedmonds6108]

Right there with you. Bay Area resident, been listening to Ball & G for well over 20 years. Absolute legends.

[@TexasBorn_TexasRaised]

Same here and I'm from Texas

[@youngharrio]

They had everything, the production, and the flow!

[@HeynowHeynowheynow]

Coming out hard is the coldest debut ever for a rap group imo.

[@goodfellabeats]

Way underrated. BTW, love that your music stunted channel is growing. Still an OG fan of the stunted growth hoops channel tho.

[@dwaynegentry2112]

Dirty South legends period people need to give them there flowers

[@Kelvin-jr1mz]

Their*

[@africasupreme3]

Will definitely revisit that first album

[@Kelvin-jr1mz]

Please d0

[@shauncameron8390]

What impressed me about 8Ball & MJG was how they were able to go Gold just within their own region alone. After Andre 3K declared the South had something to say in '95, they were among the 1st to break out, especially 8Ball. 7:53 I bought that album. Next Stunted Growth suggestion: Tha (Alkoho)Liks.

[@lafoo5023]

Hell yeah tash

[@willrocman]

Man they were out and popping before OutKast wth

[@MentalStillness]

The South shows love to their own.

[@gideonyardenyisrael7587]

This the first rap album (Coming out Hard) I ever heard where all the beats was fya and the bars to match

[@oscarmason3252]

real talk

[@XxMayhem88]

Coming Out Hard still slaps

[@ErickMuzone]

They never got their proper due. Suave House dropped some classics. 8Ball & Mjg, Crime Boss, South Circle, and Tela. Miss that Era.

[@LemarRashad-Bey]

Mr. Mike "Wicked Wayz" is too hard!!!

[@yourstrulybostonyourstruly3185]

A full-blown East Coast dude I must say Memphis has some of the greatest legends. The rap game has ever seen and they’re still going.

[@robertprince2651]

I grew up in DC and was bumping them along with other southern acts.

[@DJBlack909]

They way I see it, Eightball and MJG were regional artists. Those two did not care about mainstream recognition or gaining white fans. They knew who they made their music for. Signing with Bad Boy did them in. The shiny suit gloss was not for them.

[@asadadon]

They were never mainstream hungry. They weren't in it for the popularity.

[@mackvelly8899]

They signed to Bad Boy South iirc. If they didn’t pop off, Yung Joc wouldn’t have popped off

[@mackvelly8899]

The album on Bad Boy wasn’t shiny suit album lol. It was still gutta, it just didn’t have T-Mix on there. I’m grateful that they didn’t suffer any label issues which could have shelved their album. They left Suave House due to label issues. Tony Draper shouldn’t have signed that distribution deal with JCOR records either. Suave House could have signed a distribution deal with Koch or something

[@moyo4eva]

As a southerner and hip hop historian, I was a lil skeptical about watching this at first but I gotta say you were pretty much spot on in your analysis. Ball & MJG were never concerned with being mainstream, but to us here in the south they'll always be platinum plus legends. Great video

[@morrisblanks7015]

The best duo from the south. I love UGK and OutKast, but Ball & G is the best.

[@killakangz5317]

my FAVORITE southern duo all time. ball & g.💯

[@brandonbrown4471]

No BS Ball & G are my favorite favorite rappers of all time now and then, dead and gone I'm a Eightball and MJG I love these boys frfr ( no Homo) this is my favorite rappers of all time

[@irandleIV]

During their career Ball&G have multiple gold and platinum plaques. They're universally recognized as southern hip hop royalty and pioneers. They made plenty of noise on the independent circuit with Suave House. And they made noise on a major and iconic label like Bad Boy. They've worked with Puff Daddy, Mase, DMX, Bone Thugs, Twista, Outkast, UGK, Master P, Ice Cube, E-40, Too Short, Spice 1, MC Ren, DJ Quik, Fat Joe, Big Pun, Rodman, Busta Rhymes,, Slim Thug, TI, Gucci Mane, 2 Chainz, Big KRIT....just to name a few. How the hell was their growth stunted or potential not reached? No, they never did interviews with Oprah or The Today Show or won Grammy's. But they're still very much legends and highly respected.

[@blakebrown84]

8Ball and MGJ are very respected by the hip hop community, so they had listened to them since I was younger. They are Memphis legends!!!

[@mr4cccc]

My Mt. Rushmore of Underrated artists are 8ball & MJG, Project Pat, and E40

[@Jeastico]

You should do nini X aka Bloody Mary 🔥

[@itsteethomas]

You might as well do one on Dirty, homie. The Alabama group... it's needed for sure. Those boyz put Alabama on the map for real. It's my favorite group of all time.

[@himgod6495]

MJG "no more glory " is the best album they've done solo or put together.

[@chrisricks6363]

8ball Lost

[@mrgetdirty6702]

My favorite album period point blank

[@jamaaldavis7907]

​@@chrisricks6363🦾

[@himgod6495]

@chrisricks6363 I had that album. It came out when I was 16, out of the 3 cds it came with, I probably liked 2 songs, I gave that album away for free.

[@jamaaldavis7907]

@@himgod6495 mjg album not close 2 their best material..🤣🤣

[@ChamP10nk1ng]

The Source Magazine had a "comedy strip" guy that would always make fat jokes against 8ball. & the Source would rarely give more than 3.5 mics to any Southern rap album, which I felt played a major role in them not being able to expand more.

[@shauncameron8390]

I wouldn't be surprised as The Source as great as it was in the 90's was biased as F against non-East Coast major label artists which colored my hip hop tastes until the 2nd half of 2004.

[@MentalStillness]

I'm from Houston and don't people understand how large the South is? Look at Z-ro. He's not a household name like a TI but he's had a great career without mainstream co signs

[@entrepreneurking8162]

I Slap nothing but 8ball and mjg they still on my playlist to this day 💯

[@baystarmagazine]

I really like ur delivery just i hit the like

[@richardhardy8815]

Great mini-doc as always,you've been putting out QUALITY deep history dives for awhile SALUTE fam 🥳 but @ 6:54 was the PERFECT time to use the line "on the outside looking in" in reference to their 2nd studio album 🤣🤣

[@ContextReallyMatters]

They're probably my personal favorites out of them, Outkast and UGK even though I'm a huge fan of all three. Ball and G gets the most play. Their music has aged well. It might be even more relevant to me now that im grown than it was back when i was a teenager.

[@shaunlewis2285]

Great video on a underground legend

[@bankzfotha9423]

Mobb Deep & 8Ball MJK was underrated

[@Kelvin-jr1mz]

MJK definitely 😂

[@TexasBorn_TexasRaised]

They gets heavy rotation in my playlist still to his day!

[@Mr.Majestic77]

Much respect to Southern duos that STLIL making music together, such as: [1] *Eightball & MJG* , [2] Goodie Mob subgroup, *Lumberjacks* (Khujo Goodie & T-Mo Goodie), [3] *69 Boyz* (Thrill Da Playa & Fast Cash), [4] *Indo G & Blunt* , [5] *Dirtyboyz* (Big Pimp & Gangsta), and [6] *Field Mob* (Shawn Jay & Smoke).

[@djsmellnloud7246]

Ghetto Mafia tf…..Nino nd Wicked

[@Mr.Majestic77]

@@djsmellnloud7246 I haven't heard Ghetto Mafia as duo doing any new music.

[@YNotWAKEUp]

Southern rapper's were gifted streetwise mainstreamed railroaded hip hops and survival of the fittest underground railroad rapper's and undeniably respected throughout their unwavering overshadowed in bouncy soundbites rolled out street soldiers creds platforming the best of yesterday's unsung artists🎉🎉

[@beloved_doug]

Lay It Down, Lay It Down 😎

[@michaelblackwell5693]

You should do Question Mark Asylum

[@Solodolo84]

202 baby!!!! Let's go!!!

[@KareemMuhammad-z1h]

The song with mobb deep classic forever

[@shauncameron8390]

Where You From off of Mobb Deep's Murda Muzik album.

[@djsmellnloud7246]

U know muzik

[@mackvelly8899]

Hell yeah.. In P’s book, Hav suggested he and P work with 8Ball. In the session, Ball was cutting up some weed with some scissors

[@Carlosmillereats]

You should do the group Dirty Boyz that had the song Hit Da Floe

[@musahmusah2745]

I’m from Europe non English speaking country , and I was listening to them growing up

[@rayxaivertm]

Thinking you arent getting paid properly then going to Bad Boy is friggin nuts.

[@iconoclasttheunholy4540]

This is becoming old but I still request a StuntedGrowthMusic on Jus Allah from Jedi Mind Tricks you could even include the initial Army Of The Pharoahs crew (consisting of : Bamahadia, Virtuoso, Chief Kamachi, Esoteric, Hologram & Stoupe) in there.

[@officialgmoney1]

Gotta do one on "Dirty", Big Pimp and Da Gangsta aka G-Stacka

[@rudebwoyrenegade3726]

Still bumping Ball&M on a daily basis

[@freebehindbars8654]

Those of us that know, know. They will forever jam. 8ball& MJ G, UGK, Tru…

[@genocide_cutter98]

Shaggy 2 Dope of ICP said on drink champs 8ball and MJG was one of his favorite duo’s. Hopefully we get them at the gathering of the juggalos one day.

[@derekgrissom2171]

I literally grew up on these guys they'll forever be legends of the south 💪🏾

[@garyschwart]

Do J-Kwon

[@oscarmason3252]

Coming out hard is a straight classic album, straight classic!

[@whotheproducer]

My home boys girl friend 😅

[@latenightshift1602]

Always felt like Young Buck was the 3rd member of the group, they got good chemistry together

[@djsmellnloud7246]

Buck brings that feel to damn near everybody songs….Playaz Circle Jeezy Trick Daddy Ball nd G Lito …bro just old school real rapper that know how to blend in but stand out on tracks

[@user-jv5yp7el8d]

Ball and G got plenty of love in Miami, Florida!

[@mrgetdirty6702]

When I'm out working all I listen to is ball n g.

[@pureromanceable]

8Ball and MJG are legends of rap music they both are from Memphis Tennessee.Their career started in 1991 they collaborate with other various artists.My favourite song is 36 Mafia,Yung Buck,8Ball and MJG Stay fly

[@ambiford]

This is a wild take...they have never been stunted

[@jmos005]

My favorite space age pimpin’ song fed me a lot of game there. These two Tennessee MC’s are never stunned to me.

[@donsteel4083]

There career wasn't stunted. They had there run. They still make music and avoiding labels getting more money independent

[@DannyBoy-wq9ze]

EIGHTBALL AND MJG SHOULD HAVE REALLY BEEN FEATURED ON JAY-Z SONG "BIG PIMPIN" INSTEAD OF UGK, SINCE ALL THEY RAP IS ABOUT PIMPIN, MAKES A LOT OF COMMON SENSE !. SHOULD HAVE DONE A "BIG PIMPIN" (REMIX) !.🌅👋😐😐😐💵💵💵🎤🎤🎤🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯📱🎧👍🌃

[@Solodolo84]

Not every artist need or want mainstream recognition to be considered dope. Ball and G got more songs with more substance than most artists whole catalogs. Just Paid Dues by itself is lightyears better than most other artists songs. MJG never gave you a weak feature or verse. Ball never strayed away from his love of music, written and spoken word. And they never compromised who they are. Go and listen to Ball "the artist pays the price" and youll see just how important artists like them are.

[@jessekirksey1980]

This is one of my favorite groups

[@k.jvnglx]

You should definitely make a series where you’re talking about how people almost stunted their career growth, but they readjusted their career before things got too far gone.

[@cameronvaughn8434]

We bump "COMING OUT HARD" out here in Cali!!🔥🔥#9millimetwrboyz

[@trainyourdog7351]

These boys are the baddest MFS! My favorite rap duo of all time🙌🏾

[@emilwilliams2494]

The truest 🙌 and realest o.gs in the game since day one

[@gregwhite7852]

Can you do a video on Da Backwoods!!!!

[@413slim]

They came along so early as a whole the majority of radio station programmers just flat out refused to play southern hip hop. It's nothing they did wrong sometimes you can be ahead of your time

[@khalilshakur3402]

I remember being at a Berner and Devin the Dude concert “ buds and suds tour “ in Atlanta and Big Ball walked in with bout 4 bad H*es and Devin shouted him. Too cool.

[@o.gchevyrider6990]

They loved everywhere they go..especially in the South

[@TJ-pd2ej]

And still my favorite duo

[@vonjackson2421]

Agreed never Stunted, 🔥🔥🔥🎤🎤🎤🎤

[@andrataylor6070]

My favorite rap group Ball&G🔥🔥🔥

[@GEMINIRED300]

MJG, Ludacris, Cool Breeze and Bubba Sparxxx are so underrated.

[@USATheFallen]

You can't can't say the South without them, the dungeon family, ugk, the Geto boys and two live crew.

[@RockerT1000]

One reason i gravitated toward Ball and G is because they weren't all in the mainstream. they are underground legends and are respected for that. The underground shyt was better than what was on the radio.

[@1981philjones]

My Third Favorite RAP group or Duo behind NWA And Geto Boys

[@southwestced305]

2️⃣ of the best on any coast down south legends ✊🏿💪🏿👑

[@jvonte07]

Eightball is one of the greatest double albums ever imo. No skips and had a variety of flavors from all coasts. Ball & G is my top 3 groups of all time.

[@rapastronaut77]

LEGANDS FRFR love from flint mi.