Why ACTION Cartoons Are DEAD (@RebelTaxi)

Originally titled: Why TV Doesn't Want ANIME & ACTION CARTOONS Anymore (@RebelTaxi) but it was too much of a mouth full
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[@BunnyBoyMcGill]

"Streaming is the future!" Until there are as many streaming services as there are cable packages, each costing about $9.99. Then the bubble will burst and we start the cycle all over again

[@Racerhottie04]

KingClod Since the cycle is gonna start all over again, I can finally listen to my favorite anime and cartoons on radio with the whole family.

[@RebelTaxi]

I worry about that too but I feel a bunch will come out and fail and we'll be left with about 3. Kinda like now how we only have 3 Video Game Consoles.

[@PancakemonsterFO4]

KingClod mine is free but it has so much ads playing between it you might as well watch television

[@MrSafior]

+Kureisan28 To bad outside Ducktales and Starbuttefly, their cartoon sucks, especailly the Marvel one.

[@the-NITRON]

it doesn't help that Disney will pull all their Disney films (not sure about marvel or star wars, its complicated) from Netflix in 2 years to make their OWN streaming service... and also making three different kinds of them, THAT SURELY HELPS

[@Mathmachine]

I think a lot of it has to do with toys. Cartoon channel executives still have this weird mindset that cartoons *need* to sell toys, like we're in the 80s. Shows like TT Go attract a younger audience, so more likely to buy toys. Anime and action cartoons typically attract an older audience, so less toy sales.

[@toposebi95]

Mr Life Not if you're in school. 6am was just about the time I woke up to head for elementary.

[@toniconge7003]

I think the weirdest part is lack of toys in the first place. Where's my Star Butterfly with light up want and Marco Diaz with karate chop action? (I do think Steven Universe is doing a good job advertising a see a lot of their stuff in blind boxes and pop figures at Hot Topic and FYE not merchandise I'll buy butt I'm sure someone loves it)

[@Igorcastrochucre]

That mentality explains the Young Justice BS a few years ago: They cancelled it because "too many girls" were watching it. Either adapt or die.

[@SchweitzerMan]

That actually wasn't true. It was cancelled because the toy sales were extremely low.

[@WeedShaggy]

Do kids these days even buy toys? They're more into videogames since they're more fun to play with lol. But anyways I agree, CN executives need to learn that toy sales aren't that important like it was over 30 years ago and just focus on their ratings for cartoons instead. Just look at Sym Bionic Titan for example. It was canceled because it couldn't sell any toys? Really?

[@NCHProductions]

welp, what you said pretty much said before during CN's South East Asia think tank seminar in singapore that I've attended couple months ago on why they are "discouraging" us from giving them cartoon series pitches that are "story driven" and they are encouraging cartoon pitches that favour more "non-story driven" "family friendly" and "something you can pick up easily" Also they emphasis a hell lot on the apps and streaming and basically how your series can incorporate other smart applications via smart phone interaction and etc...

[@cbbblue8348]

NCHProductions heck,even some cartoon and anime had a singaporean dub.

[@NCHProductions]

oh do be thankful that its our "singaporean dub" and not the "americanized dub" we had dub yokai watch that kept all the japanese content in with zero censorship or edits. but then again, this has nothing to do with this video's topic though.

[@LordMelusar]

Another thing that supposedly causes a lot of issues for these sorts of series such as Symbionic Titan, was "lack of toy sales", yet I never ONCE in all my time watching TV when it and a number of other shows that were cancelled because of similar reasoning, saw a single freaking commercial advertising that these shows even HAD toys. It wasn't a lack of "interest" in buying toys for a lot of these shows, it was the company's utter failure at marketing their products outside of the series itself, and that's not even mentioning CN's failure to market Symbionic Titan and many of these other shows. When you screw with something's scheduling, never run re-runs, barely advertise that it exists, let alone what times it is on, and don't advertise that it has toys, it is GOING to fail. It's like the people at CN, and Disney, and many other companies don't realize this simple logic for some ungodly reason. If your target audience is kids, you have to ADVERTISE that you have toy products, otherwise you are relying strictly on the parents knowing what the kids like, or taking them shopping, or the parents allowing the kids to use devices and find these things themselves. It's putting ALL of your hopes for sales onto the backs of the parents, it is the KIDS you are trying to sell the toy to, the parents are the walking piggy banks that simply get to choose when money is spent. (Also, apology for the long rant, I've been sitting on this for weeks now and finally found a place to vent it.)

[@NCHProductions]

the CN think tank had being advising us to create a series that can integrate with other mediums easily, like interaction with smart phones, tablets, if your series can work with experimental mediums like VR, thats how they are seeing cartoons this days. one example of integration is the magiswords series where the thinktank told us how this interaction with "collecting swords" from your phone when u watch the cartoons was ground breaking for kids. its not the physical toys now, its all about integration with other digital platforms. thats why merchandising of series is kinda a second thought. the key now is integrating your series to mobile platforms as easily as possible. so yeah, we maybe entering a new age of digital entertainment... its going mobile.

[@LordMelusar]

That may be what they are doing now, but it still doesn't explain their idiocy years back with Sym-Bionic Titan, before they even tried to integrate mobile devices. They started trying to do that, what? 2 years ago now? Sym-Bionic Titan was airing in 2010-2011, 7 years ago. The reason it was canceled was because there were no toy properties created for it despite it having some of the highest ratings of any damn show CN has made in the last decade. A number of shows get killed off on purpose by executives, simply because they don't like the show, or like another show better. Hell, they even wrote if off in 2015, just showing how little the valued the show despite how well liked it was. I bet that if they had bothered to merchandise it in any way, they might have actually made a profit off the damn thing.

[@nellewoodruff6337]

That commercial in the Johnny Bravo clip would actually work on me.

[@TeamFriendship8600]

That scene is a perfect representation of my life.

[@watchforever1724]

lol

[@watchforever1724]

@@TeamFriendship8600 lol

[@SuperiorGothBun]

You know, a wise man once said: "I think its normal to cry and masturbate...sometimes you shout her name....nothing wrong with it...." That wise man was Pan

[@RebelTaxi]

It's totally normal

[@SuperiorGothBun]

RebelTaxi Ikr? I cry Emily's name every time and my parent shout at me to be quiet, they're trying to sleep

[@SuperiorGothBun]

RebelTaxi That's normal, right?

[@MrCowman57]

Mystic Melody x

[@bsamaniac305]

What do you mean was?

[@991yugioh]

Don't worry Pan we all want to be that one black guy from Star Wars.

[@PancakemonsterFO4]

But I want to be the taser-swinging Storm Trooper

[@bsamaniac305]

I want to be the guy who does Uncle Ruckus in Django Unchained.

[@bul13ts]

Brainbot Jezebel *T R A I T O R ! ! !*

[@cake6851]

991yugioh Yeah samuel l jackson

[@WeedShaggy]

Darth Nigga

[@Iamreallycoolful11]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="281">4:41</a> - Rice balls?!?! What are those... Oh, I think you mean jelly donuts.

[@munchjrgames942]

Jelly-filled are my favorite!

[@Vassilinia]

There was a Pokemon scene where they turned rice balls into a giant sub sandwich lmaaooo 😂

[@joshuafogg6600]

Vassilinia Yeah.... Were they being intentionally trollish when they made the sub roll on it's end? Because I feel like they were.

[@Dgero]

I tried looks my it up I guess they just didn't like rice balls

[@Dgero]

Fawkin love Brock's Jelly Donuts

[@sonictheaccursed]

"Streaming is the future", man I miss this late 2010's optimism in regards to animation

[@LevelZeroSage1]

I'm the reason Motorcity and Gravity Falls are gone. When I finally watch a show, it gets cancelled. I'm sorry everyone.

[@GoofyGoldenRetriever1]

LevelZeroSage 1 gravity falls didn't got cancelled

[@ultanoka]

can you watch teen titans go thanks

[@viraltang]

Me too dude.

[@Pioxys]

Don't you dare watch OK KO. I don't want it cancelled the first month it came on the air.

[@deangoldenstar7997]

... Can't you start being at the consumer test runs of Michael Bay movies?

[@KyChan2K]

"I want to be the black guy from Star Wars."

[@WeedShaggy]

Darth Nigga

[@Launchpad05]

@@WeedShaggy Lando Calrissian?

[@Mudkip971]

"...cut inappropriate things such as nudity and *rice balls* ...." I'm dead

[@venomtailOG]

I remember the mid 2000's being the best time for action cartoons. So many greats came out. TMNT, Samurai Jack, Megas XLR, Ben 10, Avatar, Justice League, Galactic Football and too many to name

[@WilfredCthulu]

Remember how Pan would use that one clip of that guy saying something like "Don't you want to play again?" at the end of his videos? How awesome/heartwarming/tearjerking would it be if he did that at the end of his final video and had a link to his earliest video? Just a little thing I randomly thought off.

[@trotman000]

Wilfred Cthulu Don't you wanna rematch?

[@osmosiswright9924]

Its' "Don't you wanna rematch" not "don't you wanna play again". Your nostalgia made you a dumbass.

[@aidwin85]

To be fair, he did say "something like 'Don't you wanna play again?'"

[@WilfredCthulu]

Osmosis Wright Bad day?

[@666Drazil]

Double Feels Mode: at the end of the video he para-phrases the Toonami Final Broadcast

[@RebelTaxi]

I didn't know what to Title this video

[@cropanion318]

Yee

[@monicameitin6942]

RebelTaxi HI DAD

[@namingisdifficult408]

RebelTaxi hello

[@coolioam8137]

RebelTaxi you did the best you could

[@theonlyenicfanever5346]

What could you title it?

[@K.Clawbender]

I miss the action cartoons

[@briankentpirrie5228]

at least we got star vs the forces of evil and steven universe and toonami.

[@K.Clawbender]

Brian Kent Pirrie i do like steven universe but that isnt really an action show

[@konkonart7128]

New Samurai Jak, Avatar the Last Airbender and Korra, Magnificent Ladybug, Star Vs. FOE, Pokemon (then they are battling), Young Justice (hope it'll continue eventually)? You also have anime (which are still cartoons) for that action fix; Princess Principal, Knight's and Magic, Boku no Hero Academia, Re:Creators, Fate/Apocrypha airing this season alone with another season starting in a month or so.

[@kyotheman69]

well learn to use google search and find them there's tons, you can watch Samuari Jack, Avatar, Star vs forces of evil, or you can just watch anime which usually shows tons hell Dragon ball came back

[@technologyproductions-ye3px]

Me too

[@samvimes9510]

I'm glad Young Justice is coming back, but I wish someone would bring back the 2011 Thundercats remake. That was such a good show, it deserved more than one season.

[@victorhernandez8723]

Sam Vimes What I want to see come back more than anything is Sym-Bionic Titan!

[@kyotheman69]

problem these cartoons aren't marketable anymore, they're be on streaming media, Young Justice will do amazing on Netflix

[@MistaBrandoVA]

I could easily see the Thundercats reboot on Netflix, it was very promising!

[@originalElctric]

Aw man why did you have to remind me of how much I want the show back

[@jakeosoart2141]

Sam Vimes Well do I have some awful news for you then...were getting ANOTHER Thundercats reboot. And its basically Thundercats Go!

[@Salnax]

Loonatics Unleashed is sort of the decade-older counterpart of Teen Titans Go. Shows that took an existing series from yesteryear, flipped the genre from comedy/action to action/comedy, earned loads of ire from fans and critics, and yet still got multiple seasons.

[@SirBroadsword]

At least Loonatics Unleashed had an actual story. A shit story, granted, but a story none-the-less.

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

Salnax No CN's tyrants often ruined our beloved cartoon channel and it looks like CN is already at WW2 with TTG have dictatorship (similiar to Animal Farm) and all the viewers we're like victims. Yeah, TTG has basic stories with generic humors and mostly bad cartoon's secret weapon: Toilet Humor and Twerks. TTG have occasional reference of the original series such as 40% 40% 20%. Man this episode was like Finn from Star Wars or something.

[@kjs257incpen3]

Herman 111 With 3 god awful reboots

[@lalaland2107]

I loved it at the time!

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

@Ooohbopbopboppadoohwah Actually, this comment was 2 years ago so I think TTG got redeemed after the movie and things have changed. So the hate bandwagon was completely outdated nowadays. I regret what I just saw afterwards. So basically, TTG was misunderstood as a "worst cartoon of all time" while being a parody to the show itself which it has nothing to do with the 2003 series.

[@kotatsudotme]

Oh my god I can't believe someone's actually talking about Tron????? Tron is so under appreciated thank you!!! The show was awesome! the whole tron franchise is so under cared for. Disney hates their own franchise and care more about the money. I got so confused by hearing Derezzed then he did it and I just... okay sorry this has been going on for too long but. Thank you rebeltaxi for actually bringing up tron, even if it was a minor moment.

[@wolfgang6442]

On facts👌

[@watchforever1724]

Yeah

[@MrSecretSentai]

If there’s one thing I hate about American cartoons is that a lot of really good shows have been canceled just because they didn’t sell enough toys

[@watchforever1724]

This was a different decade though I mean there’s a reason why Spider-Man or Batman franchises still going

[@eji]

I will be forever pissed with how they abandoned Tron Uprising. With proper marketing and timeslot, and TOYS, the show could've easily thrived. I'm still amazed that with a show as flashy as Uprising, there were literally NO toys made.

[@KamenRider1]

The mishandling of Tron as a franchise overall makes me sad. I do hope that they decide to revisit it someday.

[@lyokocomicdubs]

Star Wars Fall, TRON LIVES

[@DatDaDatty]

"i want to be the black guy from star wars"

[@bsamaniac305]

Dat ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. I HAVE HAD IT WITH MOTHER FUCKING SITH LORDS IN THIS MOTHER FUCKER SENATE!!

[@He-who-wakes]

Dat the cool one

[@SuperiorGothBun]

Dat That's weird. Who would want to be Janna the Hutt?

[@passthesalt1617]

i also wanted to be the black guy from Star Wars when I was a kid.

[@MariusUrucu]

I just want to say... Transformers Devastation was awesome. Not just for the fanservice, but because it's an awesome beat em' up with a surprising amount of depth. Considering it's made by Platinum Games, it makes sense. I genuinely think that Devastation is, at least mechanically, the best best Platinum game ever made... even better than Bayonetta... Yeah, I said it...

[@Dgunz]

Completely agree.

[@homesickpink6474]

Marius Urucu no argument there

[@eliasnicolasmiranda4940]

Fall and War of Cybertron was better

[@its-amemegatron.9521]

Completely agree. And that music is absolutely awesome.

[@ayxtsuki]

Marius Urucu Yep

[@Gruntvc]

You forgot to mention The Thundercats reboot that lasted only one season around the same time as all those other 2010s cancelled action cartoons. Cartoon Network sucks big time and TMNT 2012 is ending this season to be replaced with a more "kid friendly" version soon. I'm hoping Voltron reboot kicks off more action cartoon revival, as I barely ever tune in now to the tv networks.

[@briankentpirrie5228]

yeah right!!!!!!!

[@werknemerful]

Genome Soldat The animation was pretty good though

[@archivehans]

The new TMNT is fucking amazing. Have you seen that animation. Its so fucking stylized and pumping with action. It feels like motorcity holy shit.

[@Mrenderboyo2]

tank butt the animation is choppy and the fight scenes are almost impossible to focus on

[@watchforever1724]

@@Mrenderboyo2 a year ago people lost interest the show as it got cancelled

[@ElderGodBrandon]

the thing most people dont realise about Tron Uprising, was that it was meant to fill in details and bridge a huge plot gap in the Legacy movie, its supposed to take place during the movie and right after the flashback where flynn explained what happened with Clue and Tron and the betrayal, its supposed to explain things that the movie left unanswered, plus it was supposed to end around the part the movie begins

[@PowahSlapEntertainmint]

I'll never forget that episode of Teen Titans Go when Cyborg got fed up with being a robot and instead ushered in a new age of communism in the United States.

[@ImDmYT]

...

[@sirapple589]

Im Dm That is the correct response to that comment.

[@anthonylandaverde4999]

PowahSlap Entertainmint why are you here

[@Solwiz]

PowahSlap Entertainmint oh hey where else have i seen you?

[@InvaderWeezle]

Idk if that's a real episode but that sounds hilarious tbh. I'd watch it.

[@shgurr]

at least they put Teen Titans back on.

[@watchforever1724]

Still people are still pissed

[@zoinksscoob7020]

“It’s only gonna get better! Streaming is the future!” I don’t think this is gonna age so well

[@Firebreather719]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="9">0:09</a> *hears teen titans theme, and starts singing along* When there's trouble you know who to call, *hears Ghostbusters theme* teen titans! Dammit you tricked me! -_-

[@briankentpirrie5228]

best prank ever.

[@Anime_CartoonKIA]

Question, during the time Samurai Jack was on CN, did it need to have a toyline in order to be "successful"?

[@Anime_CartoonKIA]

But compared to Sym-Bionic Titan... they were made by the same guy. Unless something else went wrong.

[@SuperCosmicMutantSquid]

Tax write off, there ya go.

[@maximo8066]

what do you mean by tax write off? what does that mean?

[@Parallel_LCD]

Meaning a company can sell their property to a government so they can get a tax break from it. Like CN sold off Sym-Bonic and now the US Government owns it.

[@Anime_CartoonKIA]

Okay, I'm already aware of the W.O. situation with SBT (btw, has any other network tried this before with their shows?), but what I'm trying to say is how come SBT strictly needed a toyline to be successful while Sam Jack did not?

[@DatDaDatty]

they playing reruns of teen titans now on cartoonnetwork

[@DitzyBear]

*go

[@MacenW]

isitbroke they are going to rerun the OG Teen Titans.

[@jectellsforgottenchannel5553]

isitbroke nah man, I watch it every day now

[@triggerfairy4070]

id prefer new episodes. even if based off the those teen titan animated movies.

[@w00vz11]

Dat im not in us so watching on phone because i never did when it aired it really deserves a season 6

[@IrishPixie2342]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="161">2:41</a> *sniffs* You know Motorcity... YOU'RE THE FIRST KZbinR I'VE SEEN TO ACTUALLY KNOW THAT SHOW EXISTS!!! *bursts into gross sobbing* MAY THE LORD BLESS YOUR SOUL, GOOD MAN! :')

[@rambler2701]

I miss that show too.

[@Sekironprime]

This ending ages like milk

[@nightazday7988]

I love anime, but it destroyed the Saturday morning block got to admit it.

[@WeedShaggy]

Saturday morning cartoon block died on its own regardless of anime or not.

[@Ultralocothedragon]

It was parents that complained kids were not learning enough from schools and got the feds to force every non-cable channel to make every Saturday morning block to be about propaganda or some sort. I remember that last of them known as Vortexx was shut down because they wanted to do "One Magnificent Morning" and of course, no one watched.

[@bakl3467]

but who the fuck give a fuck about school about that much, One Magnificent Morning is a teaching channel like pbs kids/pbs but fail in comparing

[@NSFSponsor]

Ultralocothedragon Why not just make your kids watch PBS if they want education?

[@marieclemencefifimusitu1852]

Ultralocothedragon that's why every weekend morning we get boring shit on abc nbc and cbs

[@ironmaster6496]

the closest thing we have is justice league ACTION

[@thomasjohnson1885]

ironmaster64 am not getting up at 7 to watch a show

[@cake6851]

ironmaster64 No one wakes up at 7am anymore

[@eignasormelendez3213]

ironmaster64 Justice league action is actually a really good show but it sucks that it only airs on saturdays at 7 am with no reruns.

[@WeedShaggy]

+Eignasor Melendez Another reason why CN needs to fix their schedule completely.

[@connercopeland]

Eignasor Melendez and that it is only 11 mins an episode. CN is obsessed with 11 min cartoons.

[@KayEcksArr]

I REMEMBER MEGUZI

[@NekoBoyOfficial]

Miguzi was the shit as a kid.

[@princessbinas]

King of the Swamp Same. I would watch that block with my sister quite often.

[@briankentpirrie5228]

King of the Swamp I also remember it too.

[@MoonLoonie69]

Meguzi sucked

[@roboticshaft1340]

And yet the Transformers movies have a huge lack of Transformers and focuses more on the humans and it's a SNOOOOORE!

[@themeatman6984]

Remember jetix? i do.

[@anthonyboodram608]

SuicideKing Hell yeah! Jetix was awesome!

[@briankentpirrie5228]

SuicideKing toonami 2.0.

[@inkybandanna6733]

SuicideKing Yep! One of the shows I used to watch on their was oban star racers, which is getting a sequel/prequel :)

[@doomfan12345]

Jetix, Fox Box, Toonami, Miguzi, Boomeraction, Adult Swim's "Actn" - all that shit.

[@son-of-1810]

Super robot monkey team hyper force go, hell yeah.

[@MartenDE]

1996? DBZ didn't come to Germany until 2001! They even got Spongebob Squarepants' voice for Vegeta because it "sounded like the french voice". Wait. Think about this for a second, Spongebob Squarepants came to Germany in 2002, so Vegeta didn't have the voice of Spongebob, Spongebob has the original voice of Vegeta, holy shit!

[@anirudhviswanathan3986]

And it aired in India only around the same time, 2001. So...... yeah... non-USA countries really got the shortest end of the stick from anime.

[@MartenDE]

For the longest time, yeah...

[@GraveUypo]

Dragon Ball came to Brazil in 1996 and Dragon Ball Z in 1999

[@Kenshiro3rd]

I was watching it in the early mornings... long before toonami...

[@eartianwerewolf]

That's cuz you lived closer to big ol' Papa America.

[@KinghtofZero00]

I love action cartoons far more than the comedy ones then they started moving them to just Fridays and Saturdays to just Saturdays. I was pissed back then and I was stuck with shows with no damn plot development whats so ever, it was dark times for me back then.

[@DarthRue17]

Funny how 2 years later, Disney would now officially own Avatar, Alien, Predator, Planet of the Apes, and other franchises and classics from 20th Century Fox (or 20th Century Studios) and Fox Searchlight Pictures (or Searchlight Pictures)

[@watchforever1724]

I mean if it makes money Disney cares for that

[@r3n3gad33]

So it's all 4kids's fault! We should have known.

[@doomfan12345]

Screen name, pic, and comment match up too well.

[@minakohiashi8882]

The Real Delphox 616 Actually​ i believe if we didn't have 4kids anime would not be as popular as it is today. Someone needed to introduce us to One Piece and Shaman King

[@chibiprussia5574]

Wait how is it their fault?

[@r3n3gad33]

Chibi Prussia One Word: POKEMON!

[@sirrealgaming6913]

But they brought Jelly doughnuts to the west it can't be their fault

[@ColorTheoryEB]

"Streaming is the future." But will it be a good one? Since Disney is doing its own streaming service, thus taking its movies out of Netflix, there's this concern that we have to keep track of all these subscriptions and run out of money every month. Now theoretically, one family member could pay for a service, while other family members could pay for their own. But movies and TV shows in major streaming services are like theme park attractions. When they are gone, they are gone. That's why physical distribution is still around. When you buy a movie, you can keep it as long as you want.

[@daltonwilliams1723]

Dokemon Studios i saw netflix is making dvds now for daredevil, so they could be possibly marketing in physical distribution soon

[@briankentpirrie5228]

Dokemon Studios now

[@briankentpirrie5228]

Dokemon Studios now he tells us.

[@bobtom1495]

Well until disc rot comes into play or from what I've heard if you keep the disc in good condition, it could last up to 200 years...at least from what I've heard....but to me that's fine. I mean everything is going rot and disappear one day. I mean even if you say get something digital and put it on a hard drive, sometime down the line that stuff i no longer going to be usable and the data will be corrupted anyways. I mean nothing will last forever...so might as well stick to physical, so that way at least for there amount of time that you have it, you can at least enjoy it whenever you want without relying on an internet connection...

[@joshuakim5240]

The thing is, the main reason why streaming is the future is because regular TV's animated content has deteriorated to the point where streaming is simply a better alternative. I mean, why ensure 17 episodes of the same garbage cartoon in a row, when you can just stream shows you actually want to watch online with a simple, quick internet search? It's purely the result of the alternative being so much worse to the point where it's no longer a sensible option.

[@BunnyLove5763]

"This is Toonami's final broadcast" Then it came back with HxH and JoJo.

[@watchforever1724]

Lol

[@Lele_Condo]

The new generation will never know the loyalty of waking up real early or staying up late at night to watch some anime! 😂

[@watchforever1724]

Now a days you can binge watch stuff on streaming but you can still use Blu-ray/dvd

[@ShokumaOfficial]

Well this is shitty news for me since I want to get into animation And half the ideas I have are action/comedy

[@tomcruz8615]

Badlittleboy1003v AJ trust me. In the 2010s we had that 90s Cartoon comedy wave and I feel like our generation ( the ones part of the 2000s action era) will give it a comeback in the 2020s when the majority of us we'll be in the animation industry by then.

[@ShokumaOfficial]

Hopefully things look up Because some of us (*cough* me) are too poor to use streaming services

[@daltonwilliams1723]

Go independent? Lots of cartoons are self-published now too and do web series like rwby

[@GamerSlyRatchet1]

Pitch to Netflix or Amazon, then. They tend to be more experimental when it comes to cartoons.

[@Sparklyghost704]

Same boiii!!! Whatup XD (yeah am in the same situation here so maybe if I where to pitch it off for just adult it could help? Maybe? Idk?

[@titansjojo1445]

Justice League Action is great. Cartoon Network should air it more.

[@realshow689]

I've only seen a single clip but it looks really cool.

[@RockerMicke1]

i think its good, but its biggest misfire was its time slot, due to the fact that they only air this including transformers on mornings instead of the afternoons are idiotic, they think that audiences can wake up early to watch these shows and that they don't know that times have changed hell even star wars rebels air at night times what I'm saying is that cartoon network has to change there varieties if not its there loss

[@freakyfunzo1937]

Titans JoJo yeah and it has Kevin Conroy voice Batman you know it's a good show or movie (Not the Killing Joke) when Kevin Conroy voices batman

[@ScottaHemi440]

I thought CN was the ones to air it but i have yet to see it actually on TV... the series is cheesy but still actiony and fun. my main gripe is the fact that they recycle villians so quickly sometimes, like the time they clobbered brainiac only to have him return the very next episode no worse for wear...

[@dragonflame172]

Well the action is great, but even with Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill to play Batman and Joker, the genre has changed. I looked into this before and most reviewers agreed on the following: They're not aiming for older audiences anymore so the plots of episodes are fairly simple and linear. It's good for action, but don't expect Justice League: Unlimited level plots, character development, or themes. Just don't mistake it for the next JLU, Batman TAS, or even Teen Titans. It's clearly for younger audiences but it's still good though, expecially compared to most other shows airing right now.

[@DWN021]

God I fucking love Transformers: Animated. I'm pretty young so it was a big part of my childhood and now I'm filling up on G1, Beast Wars, even the comics like Mtmte and Lost Light. But guess what! Now everyone only knows the stupid fuck-ass movies and its horrible.

[@lol-nc3tz]

Shockwave same tbh.

[@doodleboy565]

Shockwave Say what you want about the movies, but you have to remember that without them, Transformers Animated and Prime probably wouldn't have existed. Heck, the entire Transformers franchise might not have become as overwhelmingly popular as it is nowadays.

[@DWN021]

Doodleboy 565 I refuse to owe any of TFP and TFAs hard work and amazing content to.. MICHAEL BAY..

[@doodleboy565]

Shockwave Again, I think the movies are atrocious too (well, except maybe the first one), but facts are facts. You can obviously tell there were some elements of Transformers Prime that were directly inspired by the movies i.e. Bumblebee's inability to speak and the more serious tone. Plus, most of the writers from the first movie left to create it, so you can't deny the connection there.

[@Dyno_98]

Shockwave Totally agreed. We need an animated movie of More than Meets the Eye.

[@Rhaynebow]

Pan, I'm genuinely surprised that you didn't mention that money is a huge reason why action shows are struggling. What studio wants to spend thousands of dollars outsourcing animation to make a flashy action cartoon with unique character designs when you can just make a cartoon about a boy and his daily life at school with noodle arms to make it easier to rig in flash or toonboom?

[@anirudhviswanathan3986]

What they are missing from this business model is one thing that entails all entertainment: heart. Without heart, passion, I find that you just cannot form an identity as a business, especially when making a cartoon show for kids. Yes, money is a major issue, but would it matter in the long run? The creators of our fav 80s, 90s and early 00s shows still have reputation to this day and they deserve our respect and support 100%. It all comes down to one thing- you reap what you sow, and only a dumbass MBA exec will think that money is the only thing that he needs to sow.

[@joseph0098]

Rhaynebow well that's an interesting point you made with the flash animation software, seriously now every freaking cartoon use flash animation and sadly just a few people use it well

[@AsellusPrimus]

I thought that would be the first thing to come up! I really want to like all these creative new cartoons coming out, but I can't help thinking that they all just look cheap and easy... Like if you do a quirky cartoony show amid a variety of other types, it's refreshing. But when every show is going for "quirky cartoony", it just tells me that this is all they can afford.

[@sirbruno95]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="841">14:01</a> You could jump into the old episodes of Justice League, Batman: TAS, Superman: TAS, Static Shock and Generator Rex besides the ones that were multiparts. It's just that today action shows want to be all subtle and all that that you have to watch everyone to get it.

[@Pundit07]

Paralyzed Horse I was just gonna mention that. All of the DC Animated Universe shows by Bruce Timm (Batman TAS, Superman TAS, Batman Beyond, Static Shock, Justice League, JL Unlimited) were critical and commercial successes. It goes to show that action cartoons can still work, but businesses are too reluctant to give them a try anymore.

[@bradsw206]

I found it extremely odd that he didn't mention any of those shows considering they were the ones that HEAVILY contributed to the action cartoon legacy. Man of action and Bruce Timm have done wonders for the animation community

[@BigJickle]

I like how when pan was talking about anime after transformers there was still peter cullen at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="295">4:55</a>

[@Comkill117]

That old Cartoon Network commercial bumper after the Johnny Bravo clip was beautiful.

[@wdcain1]

It's sad but if _Thundercats 2011_ and _Beware the Batman_ premiered 5 or 6 years earlier on Cartoon Network then each show would probably have lasted the full 65 episodes. Disney just doesn't care about action much to the misfortune of _Motorcity_ and _Tron: Uprising_ shows.

[@fulcrum6760]

wdcain1 Beware the Batman was cancelled due to the timing of Young Justice’s cancellation causing all the cry babies to think it was chosen over there show.

[@AroAceEnbyTaste]

I will admit. Without Dragon Ball Z and Sailor Moon, I would never love anime. And there have been many cartoons that are great, but cut short due to low watch count which made me sad.

[@watchforever1724]

Interesting to know

[@thewittywhygaming6487]

So. All I'm hearing is "Companies are too lazy to try".

[@pinkwinterprincessEri]

i got teary eyed during the entire video :(

[@Blader445]

To give people a idea on just how badly Disney mishandled Motorcity and Tron:Uprising: MotorCity had it’s epsidoes either played out of order, or played one week, then gone for two weeks. Uprising went from a 8pm saturday night spot to 12AM SUNDAY MORNING. And that’s if it wasn’t a repeat or the season was messed up. Yeesh.

[@carlbloke8797]

Great video. You and MrEnter also made a great point in his recent video how it really is idiotic how network execs are canceling action oriented shows based on how much toys a show sells

[@youfoundwaldo77]

Motorcity is one of my all time fav cartoons.

[@kamikazma3126]

Pan I seriously love how you find old commercials to have in your videos.

[@blackphoenix77]

I miss action cartoons: I am so tired of shit like Pickle and Peanut being all over the airwaves.

[@ravennocturne4145]

or shit like Apple and Onion

[@Mrenderboyo2]

Or s##t like the loud house

[@ravennocturne4145]

ngl The Loud House isn't THAT bad

[@Mrenderboyo2]

Jules Weiss its watchable but still is a bad show mainly because of the annoying a#s sisters and the corny jokes and that s##tty ‘’sad’’ music The only thing i like is that they actually show blood, why they can show blood in a ‘’comedy’’ cartoon but not an action cartoon is stupid but better than nothing

[@michaelmoss9198]

@@Mrenderboyo2 I agree that show is horrible

[@optiTHOMAS]

oh man all those amazing shows! i have such nostalgia for them, i remember coming home after school and would watch Miguzi. fosters, teen titans, code lyoko, totally spies, transformers and more! Aw man so many great shows. i remember being younger and would watch cartoon network all day. Growing up on powerpuff girls, Dexter, johnny Bravo, courage, samurai jack, ed, edd, and eddy, Grim, Kids next door, Batman, Justice League, and more. I loved em' all and i miss all those great shows i grew up with! :')

[@elmandarin1002]

Mike from Motor City kinda looks like Murdoc Niccals from Gorillaz. Especially Phase 1 Murdoc

[@mg6945]

That thing about TV not playing plot-driven show is really a cartoon network problem. Disney XD played alot of gravity falls and plays a lot of star vs the forces of evil. I think it's just CN liking TTG too much

[@manuelalbertoromero9528]

Yeah that's mostly a CN issue for the most part. Other networks, though not perfect, have handled that kind of stuff a bit better in comparison.

[@SolidSneakers]

Transformers Prime was so fucking great and Animated was pretty good too. The Cybertron games and Devastation were a lot of fun as well, especially Fall of Cybertron.

[@intellectualt-posingkoopa9252]

True

[@milosnikic4803]

Today at McDonalds I saw a kid lusting over a Jailbird plushie

[@Dgunz]

God left.

[@daheast1994]

God is dead and we have killed him.

[@milosnikic4803]

General Soto Fitting profile pic for that comment

[@PiePivotmontierO]

Understandable, there was a lot of sexual tension between her and Gene.

[@emolgamcsassy2201]

Like, how?

[@airarret]

If Cartoon Network switches to streaming I'm fine with that except they are doing it too fast by killing their network and spam advising the app

[@mrtraditional6028]

I really hope that television doesn't die completely. Because streaming is something that I'm not really used to. Plus it's expensive and complicated to sign up for on online services like Netflix, Amazon, Hulu, and Crackle. Streaming might be the biggest trend going on right now, but I just godly hope that it doesn't replace television. Cause I love television. And I would hate to see it become extanked.

[@blitzkriegdragon013]

How is streaming complicated? You sign up for a service and then you pick what you want to watch. Most TVs today come with a smarthub to play those services on. Streaming isn't going away for awhile because people enjoy it more. Creators find it easier to make story driven television, and people find that they can watch it on their own schedule. I don't want television to die either, but some executives are stuck in the past and don't accept that times have changed.

[@mrtraditional6028]

Well Adron Duell if you must know, the reason why I said that streaming is complicated is cause like I said before it's just something that I'm not really used to. But don't get me wrong, I understand how fun and easy is to use. My point is that it's not something that I would do often. Mainly cause I don't have any streaming services like Netflix or Hulu on my tv. That's why every time whenever I hear someone say that streaming is the future of entertainment, well that scars me. Because as of now I don't think it has what it takes to fill that spot. Yeah streaming may be fun, profitable, and easier for tv executives these days. But try to you to understand that not everyone has the luxury of steaming shows on television. And that all they have is just regular cable tv to watch. I mean hey you would be surprised by some of the people out there that still watch tv the old fashion way instead of new. Basically what I'm saying here is that I feel like we have it too easy these days with tv entertainment. And that streaming is just a rich people enjoyment kinda thing. And that's another thing, streaming doesn't come cheap regardless if it's free to use on various devices. You would still have to pay for your free trail in order to use streaming apps like Netflix and Hulu. And who knows what the price is like on those apps. What $10 or $11.00 a month!?!

[@sutyerator]

Streaming is definitely not a "rich people enjoyment thing". Netflix starts at 9 bucks a month. That's like... 4 cups of coffee. Hulu starts at 8, Amazon Prime at 6. I guess it really depends on your internet connection. Where I live (Central EU), access to Internet is relatively fast and cheap; I pay about $20 for it every month (including the most basic cable and landline).

[@EziekielNightwind]

Streaming isn't hard at all. If you're able to use youtube just fine, you can handle Netflix. And it's SUPER convenient! I can come home from work, start watching a show from wherever I left off on my TV, switch to my PC if someone wants to watch something else, and when I'm ready, I can switch to watching it on my phone in the bathroom or something, or while in bed. Literally, if something has a screen, or can be plugged into a screen, it probably has access to Netflix.

[@android19willpwn]

more expensive than cable? Geez dude, where do you live?

[@sexybunnyxox]

im so damn sick of Star Wars, and I like Star Wars, but they're making a fucking obi wan kenobi solo movie. Why?! We already fucking know his story. Whats worse is that no one fucking cares that's it's all pandering garbage. I saw some channel that counted every Marvel Easter egg as a reason the movie is good. People bitched there wasn't enough darth Vader in rouge one even though he didn't need to be there "it's fiction so Vader can be in the movie way more" That more movies not tv but whatever. I'm just really done with cinematic universes.

[@SuperCosmicMutantSquid]

This was the thing that had me groaning about WiR2. They're shoving Star Wars and Marvel into the movie when it doesn't need to be there. We already get surrounded by those brands ENOUGH so why the fuck do we need to see it in WiR, especially when even if the movie did have ACTUAL games series the most focus was put on the games that Disney MADE UP. This feels like a massive commercial for Marvel and SW than something that's supposed to be the continuing story of WiR.

[@SuperCosmicMutantSquid]

They go to different apps which include Make Mine Marvel and the Disney Princesses are being guarded by Storm Troopers and C3PO for some reason. It's....it's just too much and is so unneeded.

[@GarrusN7]

Hallo George Lucas sold the Star Wars rights to Disney for 4 billion dollars.

[@kyotheman69]

don't forget Han solo movie, but that's Disney for you milk the fuck out of something, Frozen anyone?

[@sexybunnyxox]

THE Solo Han Solo movie, that apparently has a lot of problems, and Chris miller and Phil lord left or got fired, who I like, but like with Edgar wright, you don't do exactly what Disney wants...can't wait for the solo prequel coming of age padme amidala movie

[@TheEarthquake1001]

have you even seen transformers animated and prime, they are both epic and deep ACTION shows, not cartoonie childish showes as you said they were

[@comicmisconceptions4602]

Exactly

[@wolfgang6442]

He really should take the time outta his day and watch em

[@artydomi2466]

Because of streaming sites like Crunchyroll that make it more convenient?

[@wardenofherheart4940]

Toonami has always struggled since the birth of online streaming

[@animequestions248]

Artydomi agreed the days of watching DBZ on cartoon network are long gone

[@jonathanlanden7385]

Artydomi this

[@jackisaboy5663]

I think its great streaming sites have become the norm and that some of them are producing content

[@attonpearson1944]

You forgot that they shove ads up your ass. One ad every couple of minutes is irritating.

[@SunyCartoons]

Pan, you're so good at explaining situations like this. Literally, this made so much sense

[@PescadorGama]

Excellent video, as always. Its clear you care, you are informed and know how to direct and produce content. You are probably one of the best consistent youtubers I am subscribed to. I don't know, feel like I had to write it down. Congratz and greetings all the way from uruguay.

[@bara4960]

Remember when Adventure Time and Generator Rex were both heavily advertised together in commercial breaks? Well my guess is that since Adventure Time became more popular and sold more toys etc, there was no incentive to do action shows that cost more and are more time consuming when they can make shows that are not only made in house, but also are cheaper and less cost effective. Sym Bionic Titan came out around the same time as Regular Show and history repeated itself there as well. Not saying these are bad shows but man, I really wished Generator Rex and especially Sym Bionic Titan got the love they deserved.

[@derpyquagsire6678]

i miss transformer animated

[@intellectualt-posingkoopa9252]

derpy quagsire same. It's a shame it didn't get a 4th season.

[@chaoticneutral7976]

distinctive Koopa There was so much planned for a fourth season, including a Beast Wars episode. We could've had it all

[@intellectualt-posingkoopa9252]

Chaotic Neutral talk about wasted potential.

[@aromardu]

Plus, Streaming service Netflix is funding both action/drama shows by Western and Japanese studios, so we get the best of both worlds.

[@ShadowWolfRising]

In some cases, shows that are both (Castlevania).

[@watchforever1724]

Lol

[@Chaglorddickskanky]

Dude, Have you even SEEN Transformers prime. It's one of the least "Cartoony" Transformers shows Period.

[@Comkill117]

It’s darker and grittier, but it’s still very stylized.

[@salty898]

I think another reason may be people being impatient. People may or may not want to watch a channel only to watch one show that they enjoy; whereas streaming (as long as the show is available) gives them the right to watch what they want, when they want it. Especially in the case with anime and Toonami. If it weren't for its' dedicated fanbase, Toonami would cease to exist.

[@treflosho]

Holy shit! I remember Miguzi. It was around the time my family could afford to have cable again. I saw the commercial inverts thinking "what the hell was that!?". Good times.

[@MacabreHouse]

I miss Green Lantern: The Animated Series v-v

[@MrMaximumAustin]

Very lovely video. I like it when you spend some time getting analytical and retrospective. Especially with a strong emotional ending alongside the cringey silliness, it makes for a great piece of work. I think we all wanted to be the "black guy" from Star Wars at some point in our childhoods, as Pan put it...

[@BugsyFoga]

As of today Rise of the tmnt was the closest thing we got to a modern day action cartoon , its just ashame like usual Nickelodeon screwed with a shows success by booting of to Nicktoons.

[@noahbossier1131]

Watch glitch techs on Netflix its a great action cartoon. That needs your support.

[@BugsyFoga]

@@noahbossier1131 oh I definitely did that .

[@noahbossier1131]

@@BugsyFoga thanks, please tell all your friends about it.

[@watchforever1724]

Well it got cancelled

[@chloeg3637]

Pan absolutely needs to watch Camp Camp!! Its a comedy, but its really good and has this campy(ha) humor, thrown in with the most lovable asshole as a main character!! its absolutely wonderful and i would love to see his review on it!!

[@manuelalbertoromero9528]

Ahh Camp Camp..Boy does its artstyle deceive you into thinking its a kids show.

[@orangesoda4535]

The Rooster Teeth show?

[@MaskOfAbyss]

Not gunna lie I get hit with my childhood when you cut to the old tv commercials things it reminds me of better days love your stuff man!

[@jonmcintyre1144]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="0">0:00</a> - <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="11">0:11</a> On the same year this video was uploaded, the Titans and The Ghostbusters teamed up in LEGO Dimensions, tomorrow’s the game’s 7th anniversary!

[@Mars_over_seer]

When I was a kid, I always felt like more cartoons should have a story. I loved the episodic natures of cartoons but I always felt like cartoons could test me.

[@Voltanaut]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="491">8:11</a> - "Bang." - nice touch.

[@Verte7]

Cut out some inappropriate things like nudity and rice balls, lol

[@chyandinii]

Uh, sir, did you mean nudity and _jelly donuts_

[@watchforever1724]

Lol 😂 that’s usually most Japanese anime

[@joshuafogg6600]

Tron: Uprising was great.

[@malachiowens3423]

Problem about is that you have to like five different services cause now people are using it more. Disney move it's content from Netflix, DC is making their own streaming network. Like why pay for a bunch of different shit when it all be in one place. I dint want to pay for a DC streaming service when I could get that same thing on Netflix.

[@LuisPJ]

can't wait for the remix line of "500 streaming options and nothing good to watch I think that the whole point, like with Disney, they want to owned all aspect of production that way they don't have to pay for the middle man, in this case Netflix. fragmentation is the future

[@SuperCosmicMutantSquid]

That's the biggest issue I have with streaming and that's paying for everything when they all begin to branch out. People complain about cable but over the years they have made certain packages cheaper and you can watch what you want to watch. If streaming services all start to branch off to their thing rather than being bundled neatly together, it'll get too much for people to handle on a FINANCIAL level. Cable lasted a good long time before getting needlessly complicated. It feels like streaming services are starting to jump the gun too soon on this.

[@theluigifan1]

I totally would be up for them to bring back Sym-Bionic Titan. One of Genndy Tartakovsky's more overlooked works that I believe died way too soon.

[@naturalist10000]

THANK GOD!!! I'm not the only one who remembered Tron: Uprising

[@TigirlakaLaserwolf6]

I'M NOT WAITING A WHOLE FUCKING WEEK TO SEE IF INUYASHA AND KAGOME GET TOGETHER! _SAAAAAAAAAME_

[@OsnosisBones]

As someone who watched Inuyasha when it very first started airing I had to wait a whole hell of a lot longer than a week. It being concluded in a differently named anime years later also didnt help one bit lol

[@Patrick-bn5rp]

Why are these people so obsessed with selling toys when there are so many different types of merchandise you can sell? 😣

[@josesosa3337]

Shirts, statues, and games are good examples. Except at least with games not every franchise can be properly translated into a video game format.

[@watchforever1724]

That’s how life is though

[@VulpesHilarianus]

Goddamnit Pan, did you have to show the Final TOM? That shit had me crying as a teenager because it was the end of an era.

[@TruffleMonkey]

I love it every time you use Tycho's Cascade. Just sounds so eerie.

[@boltharvey]

Hey Pan, just wanted to say that your skill with editing really stood out to me with this one. How you incorporate music, cuts and information is really unique man. Glad I've been subscribed for so long, keep it up!

[@darianalexander5503]

When there's trouble you know who to call... AND THEN I SAW HER FACE, NOW I'M A BELIEVER.

[@ennemm5953]

Hey pan pizza do a review on the TV cartoon 6teen

[@Darkshine1234]

Necholas Maitre YEEEESSSSSS I loved that show

[@BlazeTheMovieFan]

Great video and very informative This is why you are my favorite animation KZbinr.

[@bannanaboy7533]

Blaze The Movie Fan Play Detective Pikachu.

[@bonebard6178]

god just seeing that toonami finale where I thought it was gone for good just hits me in the heart, so glad its back