Why, after ten years of talking with atheists, I'm still a Christian - Justin Brierley

Unbelievable? host Justin Brierley shares why he thinks Christianity makes best sense of human existence, value and purpose.
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This talk was given at Christ's Church of the Valley, California in July 2019.
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[@PremierUnbelievable]

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[@tomsheehy1]

Then you need to pay attention when you are listening to atheists in future. You obviously would not come out with such presuppositional garbage if you were delivering this diatribe in any European country. Your arguments are so weak that I thought this was from the 1950's. Bye-the-way Richard Dawkins is not the best atheist debater out there. He may have been 12 years ago but he could not compare with Hitchens .Matt Dillahunty, Paulogia and lots of others.

[@zach2980]

Justin, it's interesting how you poo poo naturalism. Every thing so far that we attributed to the supernatural we found to be due to natural forces. What in your life do you see the supernatural? Demonstrate it, do that and I'll believe it.

[@20july1944]

@@tomsheehy1 Would you agree with me that SOMEthing has always existed, for us to be here now?

[@20july1944]

@@zach2980 Would you agree with me that SOMEthing has always existed, for us to be here now?

[@zach2980]

@@20july1944 No, I don't know. Do you?

[@Dollface98]

I’ve been experiencing a period of doubting my faith lately but I couldn’t put into words why I couldn’t reject my Christian faith even in my doubt I just couldn’t reject Jesus and after listening to this Justin put into words everything that I was feeling. Something in me just knows that it’s true. Thank you so much after hearing this I’ve fallen in love with the gospel all over again.

[@darkeen42]

it's called indoctrination or brainwashing.

[@darkeen42]

you don't know it's true it was just drilled into your head at such a young age to lie his become instrumental to your being

[@HarryNicNicholas]

it isn't true, and it's not leaving god or heading for hell because - no god and no hell. i've been atheist all my life, and i've had a pretty amazing life, god makes no difference, and if you hadn't noticed god hasn't made the slightest difference to human nature in 2000 years, the only advances in morality have actually come from secular sources, it wasn't the catholics decided to end the inquisition, it's not chrisitans allowing same sex marriage, it's not christians approving of homosexuality, religions are bully enablers and that's all "it's not ME burning you alive, my GOD demands it" - quit, go enjoy life, stop worrying about the sky daddy - he isn;t there.

[@cynthiahample7793]

I don't struggle with faith which isn't to say that I have all the answers to my questions..I still, in many ways struggle with why God allows certain kinds of pain and suffering but I know there was reason for the pain and suffering of Christ on the cross so that's where my mind goes when I see suffering that "seems" arbitrary. I think the Christian faith, the Bible has the best explanatory reasons why the world is the way it is in terms of humanity and its fallen nature...also, there's so much to sift through ie the laws of logic, the laws of physics, the moral law, the eye witness testimony of Scripture, the historisity of Jesus of Nazareth..it really is a cumulative case. Lastly, since neither God nor evolution can be proved we rely on inference to come to the best conclusion..so even atheists have faith. Faith is only as good as the object in which it's placed. If we consider all the aforementioned God is incomprehesively great..beyond what we can apprehend about Him in regard to all of those things..so I think the Christian has the best reasons for placing their faith in Christ...I could go on with respect to having an eternal perspective on life..and on and on..

[@darkeen42]

@@cynthiahample7793 wow that was just a pile of garbage first of all the gospels don't even claim to be an eyewitness account they're written in the third person they were oral traditions for generations and written down anonymously and then centuries later attributed authors. The gospels speak of the Vincent no one was there to witness the gospel of Mark speaks of Mark as a separate person there is zero reason to think any of that is true we know they aren't eyewitness accounts there is no getting around that that is a fact

[@laxr5rs]

I'm an atheist, but really enjoy your work. Thanks very much. Thanks for bringing people together with opposing views in a kindly debate. We need so much more of that right now.

[@FinneousPJ1]

He's making a pretty annoying strawman of an atheist position

[@jshauns]

@@FinneousPJ1 All atheist positions are strawman approaches, though. All the new atheist's arguments all posit the same approach and argue the same points. Less a few subtle differences betwixt them about objective morality. It's just the same approach to debating religious folks. It's a simple format really...

[@FinneousPJ1]

@@jshauns I have no idea what you mean. Can you elaborate what you mean?

[@jshauns]

@@FinneousPJ1 Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris, Dillahunty, all use the same presuppositional straw man approach when debating religious figures. Take belief in God, make a juxtaposed argument to some bad actor, who had belief in god, equate bad acts to god belief, bingo-bango, religion is bad. Religious figures do the same exact technique when arguing against secular humanism. Hitler was an atheist; therefore, atheism and atheists are bad. (This argument is fallacious on the surface - which is what makes it a strawman approach). “I’m not going to address what you say, I’m going to attack something else.” I am simply stating that the approach of the atheist’s is the same. None are that concerned with consciousness and where it comes from, and more the point where it resides - except for maybe Harris, who has a more mindfulness approach than the others. The rest are solely out to rail against religion. They will arise at some hyperbolic place where ‘I don’t know, and that’s okay’ is typically used to just explain away key tenets of the human experience. I am in no way saying what they are implying is wrong - just that, these many debates will have their assumed winners based on the predisposition of the audience. Harris is not going to make a compelling enough argument to convert areligious people, en masse after one debate. Just as Lennox won’t convert, in masse, a group of Secularists to Christianity after one debate. Sure, there may be a few, but I’m talking a lot. KZbin is an echo chamber of ideas and can generally find like-minded individuals to latch on to.

[@FinneousPJ1]

@@jshauns Even if you're correct, that does nothing to demonstrate your claim "all atheist positions are strawman approaches", which is ridiculous. There is one atheist position, which is the rejection of theistic claims. Furthermore, you are not correct. Dillahunty, for example, tends to ask what theists believe and why and go from there. How is that strawmanning? And even if it is, that does not excuse the strawmanning of this speaker. So you fail on many levels lol

[@davidrichardson7466]

I am an atheist and really appreciate Justin. He is really good at having positive conversations. He does give us an example of being able to respectfully engage one another.

[@HarryNicNicholas]

watch a few of his videos where there aren't any atheists around to "be nice to"...

[@davidsmith1139]

Yeah tbh I’m a theist but really dislike militant theists and militant atheists, because I think debates on this channel can give better answers for both sides

[@justinsmart5870]

Same! It’s really inspiring

[@marlenelegrangevorster6087]

Hope you find the truth - Christ is alive! 🙏😁🌟

[@scottmcloughlin4371]

For what crime did Roman's slaughter early Christians? Atheism! Look it up. You are in the best of good company! Peace be with you and yours :)

[@annaworledge6224]

Thankyou, this is exactly what i needed. Im a teenager from britain who struggles and i searched you up because you commented on a great book called ask. I didn't expect to watch the whole video, especiappy when i saw that it was 35 minutes. But it completely lifter me up off the ground. Thankyou

[@alannatomlinson7723]

Hey Anna , I'm a teenager also. Hope you are ok 👍

[@sandershano5758]

Keep your faith firm love.❤️🦋

[@jerichosharman470]

Yes he is nice......I’m British too....... just remember no matter how nice someone is , god is still imaginary 🤪

[@sandershano5758]

@@jerichosharman470 he ain’t, you’re just deluded but that’s okay you’re not unique there are people many like you😔

[@jerichosharman470]

@@sandershano5758 lol......ever notic pe,god is always invisible and barely speaks except in peoples heads? Yes ....god is imaginary ......wether it is Zeus , Brahma, Vishnu , Yahweh , Baal......or the invisible talking rabbit ........it’s all in the head

[@Angrybogan]

God bless you and your ministry, Justin!

[@5678efgh3]

I'm not a Christian believer but I really admire what you're doing and I love your channel man... please do keep it up!

[@existential-solutions3305]

Thank you Justin. I have been a Christian for more than 40 years and never doubted the existence of God as the creator of the universe and life, that is why I am completing a degree in Religious Studies and Philosophy, after Education. The Big Conversation Debates I have watched on KZbin have been so interesting and motivating for me to do my part in sharing my thoughts in French & Spanish on the existential questions I had since the age of 10, although I am a nube techwise. You are encouraging me to share my experience and study on this subject I am so passionate about.

[@a.39886]

given this facts what decision will you make You are 100% perfect need no one or anything but if you created you know with 100% certainty that if certain children will end up eternally suffering the torture of hell, and a different group of children will end up eternally on heaven. If you have that knowledge and the power to created them what is your decision a) Bring only the children that end up in heaven b) Bring both the children that end up in heaven and also hell c) Bring no children

[@Cantstanya]

At 10 years of age I realized the silliness of first communion and confessing my “sins” to a priest. Some people never grow up.

[@joeturner9219]

​@@a.39886Freewill. If someone ends up in hell, it is their decision to go there. You have a choice to either reject Christ and live however you want or you can accept Christ and let God change your heart and life.

[@joeturner9219]

​@@CantstanyaOnly God can forgive sins.

[@a.39886]

do you have free will not to create who you know will end up in hell, do you have that choice either to create or not create? or it is God forced to create the ones he knows will be in eternal torture@@joeturner9219

[@bkhan19]

I am a Muslim and appreciate Justin's shows a lot. Enjoyed this talk as well. Keep it up Justin, God Bless you!

[@sauravcyrus1935]

Which YHWW or Allah

[@tobysanghera5829]

@@sauravcyrus1935 Nice try. But YHWH, Elohim, Theos (Deus) and Allah are all interchangeable words for "God", linguistic symbols pointing to the same God, given that they are all Abrahamic faiths.

[@The_Legend_Himself]

I’m personally a Hindu but I love watching this channel and it’s free discussion.

[@georgetteharvey9668]

Dear Justin, God bless you and your family and the Christian radio. 💙👍🏻✝️

[@gpie_7777]

You host it so Eloquently and objectively, Your show is simply brilliant. I don't miss it. Thanks Justin from Australia

[@monicatorres4965]

As a christian biologist I highly value your work

[@conordelaney76]

Are you a creationist, or a biologist who is Christian and doesn't take the bible seriously?

[@colereece3902]

I’ve been having a long conversation with a friend over the course of several months. She’s a 1.) witch 2.) evolutionist. How should the Christian approach the idea of evolution?

[@darkeen42]

Being a Christian biologist must be a very difficult line to walk considering everything we know about biology is rooted in evolution

[@darkeen42]

@@colereece3902 the first step to discussing evolutions actually learn what evolution is. So many Christians I talked to try to disprove things that evolution has never said.

[@bdnnijs192]

@@darkeen42 Must be as difficult as being a Christian and wearing Mixed fabrics. Young Earth creationism is probably amuch smaller group than you might think. It is a very vocal group tough. The majority of Christians (outside the US) probably consider creation in 6 days a metaphor just like many other stories in the Bible. They recognise the evidence for evolution is overwhelming, and consider evolution part of the method via which God created life.

[@matthewmcgrath8410]

I’m a Christian and I appreciate the work you do keep it up and God bless

[@darkeen42]

If you actually got an education and verified the thing as a scum bags as you wouldn't be thanking him you would be cussing him out.. I'm sorry you prefer comforting lies over harsh reality. You still believe in Santa Claus too

[@davidcloyd1296]

So powerful and refreshing. Experiencing a supernatural encounter with Christ is difficult to explain, but is tangible and real. I hope everyone takes this question seriously enough to explore it sincerely. They will undoubtedly come to the end of themselves and find Gods grace is the answer.

[@oneandallchurch]

Thanks for joining us Justin!! So happy to have had you speak and we can't wait to have you back!

[@cliveandersonjr.8758]

Great talk! Thank you for sharing Justin! God Bless!

[@olgaburgos7780]

I am a firm believer in my creator God almighty and after years of trying to bring

[@darkknightsds]

This brought me to tears. Thank you, Justin.

[@keepitreelcatfishing5883]

I am a Muslim. I really enjoy your programs and have learned a lot.

[@huh7056]

Watch Christian Prince

[@blakechradini7235]

And I appreciate people like you man. I believe Muslims, Jews and Christians are uniting as one super faith!

[@darkeen42]

@@blakechradini7235 not paying attention to the real world are you? Or what those other Faith's even say.

[@dawid_dahl]

Such a wonderful man. Thank you!

[@sarahpfeuffer1396]

Incredible points you've made! Well done.

[@JWCFB]

Brilliant. I'm JACKED about God's love and hope!

[@mahlatsimoroka1500]

God loves you 😘😘😘🙏

[@ivanleon6164]

what love and what hope?

[@JWCFB]

@@ivanleon6164 Here's to all the losers, Who lose all guilt and sin, Here's to Life in Jesus, Where all of the losers win.

[@ivanleon6164]

@@JWCFB OK...

[@skibboshadow2670]

@@JWCFB. You are hilarious 🤣🤣🤣

[@mikewilliams2112]

Talking to atheists helps me stay Christian!

Are you a comic? That`s the craziest thing I have ever heard.

[@sandershano5758]

Sameee lol. I just feel bad for them.

[@padfootfan123]

Talking to Christians helps me stay atheist!

[@joetunon]

@@padfootfan123 And when you see some of the intellectuals on both sides of the issue, it boggles my mind when either side belittles the other as unintelligent.

[@padfootfan123]

@@joetunon agreed. One's faith doesn't determine one's intelligence. There are idiots everywhere.

[@gaysagabaen1322]

Thank you Justin. You're explanation revived my faith.

[@niveshproag3761]

*your

[@blackfalkon4189]

_"You're explanation revived my faith"_ it's good that he's explanation revived your faith :)

[@a.39886]

given this facts what decision will you make You are 100% perfect need no one or anything but if you created you know with 100% certainty that if certain children will end up eternally suffering the torture of hell, and a different group of children will end up eternally on heaven. If you have that knowledge and the power to created them what is your decision a) Bring only the children that end up in heaven b) Bring both the children that end up in heaven and also hell c) Bring no children..

[@richardmorgan3938]

@@a.39886 d) Don't pretend that people go to heaven or hell when they die. The Bible doesn't teach such nonsense. People who die are dead, forever, unless they are resurrected when Christ returns. People don't burn in hell for eternity. Such an idea is utterly abhorrent and thoroughly unbliblical.

[@TheSpacePlaceYT]

@@blackfalkon4189 LOL

[@marisolmagana6862]

well, I know this is completely out of context but, I am Mexican and went to college and worked in the US, and I can't help noticing the difference in your accent!!! Love it!!! God bless you!!!

[@KenDavis761]

Looking forward to the Rubin event

[@joeturner9219]

I'm a Christian but I think both Atheists and Christians alike appreciate what you do. You allow healthy, respectful and insightful debates that are fair and allow both sides to freely express themselves. Thank you.

[@saltydodger9597]

As a life long atheist I have always looked forward to the debates and conversations organised by Justin. Keep it going.

[@inaudiblearia8047]

Hey man may I ask you this question. Why are you an atheist. Your life goal is to tell Christians why they are wrong why is it your life goal is not to tell the truth?

[@justanormalday7251]

@salty please look forward to Muslim speakers also and consider them. If you dismissed others to wait for a Christian apologist then you need to think again.

[@johnvirgilio5323]

I'm glad you are hearing the case out Salty Dodger, (if that is your real name). Many of the 'new atheists' are antagonistic, but I think that arrogance has proven to be bad for them. The thing is, they are really coming from an 'I don't know' position, but acting like 'know it alls'. They have reasons for doubt. Ok. It's understandable. Doubts and a willingness to hear go a long way, and you seem like you may be that way. If so, great. It takes time as the case for God and Christianity is immense and you may have barely scratched the surface. At times the most searching sceptics become strong defenders of the faith, like CS Lewis and J Warner Wallace more recently (a top notch detective bringing excellent angles on the subject. He's online and in books.) So if you don't mind running that risk, good for you. A hope for an eternity of love, joy and peace, beats out resting in peace forever, in my book. (Which doesn't compare with Evidence that Demands a Verdict by Josh McDowell.) Here's some other things you could find here on KZbin. Videos by Dr James Tour and Dr Stephen C Meyers, Dr William Lane Craig for the Moral argument and others. Biblical archeology is proven again and again, most especially around the burnt peak of Mt Sinai in Saudi Arabia, (maybe check out Ryan Mauro's video and see the monolithic split Rock of Moses with its water erosion and many, many other Biblically correlating sites.), the Red Sea Crossing with its Egyptian size and style wheels in the sea corals and so on, is incredible Shall I keep going? There's the vast issue of the prophecies Christ fulfilled. Did you know that Dr Michael Brown never lost a debate with Jewish scholars? It's because of the case and his knowledge of it. Amazing subject, strong in giving faith as fulfilling the miraculous trends to be. Which leads to the resurrection. No shortage of those videos, as it is vital. While our extra Biblical evidence for Christ from the first century increases to solidify with new finds, the people want physical forensic evidence. Have you studied the Shroud? How about the incredibly matching headcloth of Christ in Oviedo. Even the blood type matches with the Shroud, AB. Also the Shroud tested positive for Bilirubin which comes from torture. Amazingly the crown of thorns plant pollen from early Jerusalem is still on the Shroud, but just the start of that evidence. Near Death Experiences are fascinating. Modern miracles in Mozambique are truly powerful, and PhD tested before and after prayer. Astonishing results! Yet there are so many more healings in Jesus name occurring there. But beyond all these things and much more, there is the spiritual birth given you by God. "His Spirit bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God.", Paul said. "God is Spirit" so really the issue is a spiritual one. Ultimately that is where He will make Himself known to you. Do you want Him to? I hope this helps. I'll pray for you.

[@justanormalday7251]

@@johnvirgilio5323 Many of the atheists are not what you think they are. The person you are replying have just proved my point . But you will rather assume than talking with (not to) them.

[@saltydodger9597]

Thanks, I'll continue to try to humbly tread where the evidence leads where ever that might be but not lead the evidence to any prior conclusions, the essence of scepticism in my opinion.

[@acousticmotorbike2118]

Great content. Thankyou.

[@normaquirolgico1257]

The defense of Justin Brierley about Christianity is highly relatable to different degrees of intellect of different minds, logical and rational, compelling to ascribe to the biblical story of Christianity.

[@kenbryantmusic]

Beautiful - thank you 👌👍

[@hugosanchez-herrerobandres7989]

Wonderful video ❤ God bless you, Justin. Greetings from Spain!

[@Dankehum]

I thought the title said athletes lol. I was agnostic, now i am a Christian and i dont see it as religion, i want to see it as the way of life.

[@nathanmckenzie904]

Definitionally it is a religion.

[@servingandswerving4106]

Amen. Follow the ways of Christ.

[@Leehamism]

Love his openess to friendly conversation. Sounds like he is the type of guy who would likely understand the importance of the principle of charity. I have plentry of questions I'd like to ask him......

[@preggychinnamunian6138]

Empowering! Great encouragement for faith in the Christian God. Love these statements: "What we think we know about science isn't pointing away from God, it's pointing to God". "When it comes to making sense of human existence - God is the best explanation". Loved the video. Jesus is Lord.

[@HarryNicNicholas]

luckily science is right even if you don't like it, i'd like to see how long anyone would last without - well your phone for a start, all the way through to hospitals and medicine, you really are ungrateful, god KILLS people for goodness sake, even his own son, when i say "save starving children" i get told god doesn't do that - that's your god, doesn't care who dies. at what stage is god involved then? at the quantum level? atomic? molecular? where is god getting his hands dirty, for me to have free will he can't touch my body can he? how is god an explanation of anything, how does god help surgery? where was god at nuremburg? humans have to doo all this bollocks, god has NEVER put in an appearance.

[@zahariachirica5466]

Christian God??????🤣

[@a.39886]

given this facts what decision will you make You are 100% perfect need no one or anything but if you created you know with 100% certainty that if certain children will end up eternally suffering the torture of hell, and a different group of children will end up eternally on heaven. If you have that knowledge and the power to created them what is your decision a) Bring only the children that end up in heaven b) Bring both the children that end up in heaven and also hell c) Bring no children

[@zahariachirica5466]

@@a.39886 The idea in itself of heaven or hell is horrible. They are the fruit of a paranoid mind.... Let children alone. Don't scare them or ruin their life with your horrible ideas, man!

[@jesseriker260]

"It would be very strange for us to find ourselves in a universe where we could not exist" Lawrence Krauss.

[@Val3y]

This guy is the best moderator I’ve ever seen

[@amangitaw7669]

I love your great stamina and valor, Justin, dealing with formidable set of challenging views towards God, science, and nature while carefully taking a good care of differences.

[@johnlee556]

I have begun watching or listening to “Unbelievable?” for the past 6 months or so and I think it is great. I in particular like the impartiality that Justin showed during every debate. It’s great to see Justin proclaiming his faith in this video but it may not do good to his show because people might think he is biased.

[@majm4606]

I'm an atheist who's watched quite a few of his show's episodes, and he does a fantastic job remaining unbiased. He's one of the best moderators of talks like these, period.

[@HarryNicNicholas]

@@majm4606 unbiased? really? watch some of the "whats an atheist" episodes where he's not being watched.

[@majm4606]

​@@HarryNicNicholas A quick search for those episodes turned up nothing, and it doesn't sound like it's part of his moderation (which is where I'm saying he's acting unbiased, and he has from all the talks I've seen).

[@Mr2twenty2]

Good talk mate, God bless

[@chriscaliff8752]

Brilliant.

[@bhocatbho]

II came to Christianity through science. When I find an inscription in the sand I think it's common sense to think a human wrote it, whereas a militant atheist would believe that crabs and sea motion over the millennia wrote that single phrase. It simply doesn't make sense. As a former atheist, former agnostic, and now a believer in Christ I sincerely thank the new atheists who with their so-far futile attempts to debunk the Christian faith and replace it with their naturalistic and irrational faith make my faith in GOD and Christ stronger because it is based on firmer ground. And for this, I must deeply thank Justin Brierley and the precious debates he hosts in his show that compare the two worldviews.

[@yekatyaap548]

Yay another new Christian that came to faith through science. It’s rare for me to find new Christians especially those through science!

[@scotte4765]

You may have some familiarity with science, but your logic is abominable. When you find writing in the sand you know it for what it is because you've seen writing before many times and you know how it is made. Your "common sense" about that is nothing but accumulated experience. Please tell us about your travels to other universes which you saw many universes being made by a god or gods, that informs you that this universe was similarly designed and made. If the entire universe was necessarily designed by a god, then we have no examples to look at of something that wasn't so designed, and therefore no way to tell the difference between the two.

[@bhocatbho]

@@yekatyaap548 do not be surprised. Science, in the first place, has been a product of the Christian world view that there was a design to be discovered in nature. Chines did not invent science because they were convinced that the world was in a precarious equilibrium between the forces of chaos and order. Greeks believed in the logos and not in the fact that there were natural laws to be discovered through guided experiments. Christians were convinced that being made in the image of God they had the intellect to find out the laws written In nature by the law giver.

[@bhocatbho]

@@scotte4765 I’m not an English native speaker but it is clear that in labeling my logic abominable you are not trying to be nice to me and unfortunately I am a too young new Christian to be nice to a jerk like you. With my comment I was really paying respect to atheists that struggle to search the truth. Anyway you entirely missed the point. It is exactly the experience that let me know that there is an intelligent cause when I see Information . I stop here. Stay safe.

[@scotte4765]

@@bhocatbho I wasn't trying to be nice to you, or to be mean to you. You opened yourself up to public response by posting a comment here, so I gave you an honest response to the argument you gave. I saw nothing in your comment that paid respect to atheists. You made an absurd characterization of what you think atheists "would believe" and then labeled that mischaracterization as not making sense. You said atheists' attempts to debunk Christian faith were futile and claimed they have "irrational faith" that is on weaker ground than yours. Your "thanking" of atheists was the equivalent of saying, "you're so stupid and wrong, it has helped reinforce how right I am, so thanks". Please tell me what you think atheists should regard as respectful in all of that. If you're going to write a paragraph that misrepresents and mocks atheists in multiple ways, why are you surprised when an atheist doesn't respond with "oh boy, thank you"? Your understanding of the history of the development of science is simplistic, distorted, and abominable as well, by the way.

[@jovialmoshahary1556]

Good talk Justin. Bummed on the podcast with Alex and Bishop Barren today and I hope to follow your channel.

[@jonfromtheuk467]

Justin , as an agnostic atheist I have enjoyed your shows and your obvious general understanding of the opponents position especially when moderating ( this is rare in my experience) .....I'm still confused why you still believe! but hey we don't get to choose our beliefs . All the best . Jon

[@jonfromtheuk467]

@leumasdiderot Thats a tad disingenuous ! I have no evidence to doubt his motives. I disagree with his conclusions for sure, but saying its all for money ???? do you have any evidence for this claim?

[@jonfromtheuk467]

@leumasdiderot OK How much does he earn and tell me how you know this? How much also does he give to charity and how you know this? I dont think ad hominem attacks on believers especially when you seem to propose every theist is in it for the money, is a clever strategy. Show their erroneous irrational thinking, faulty logic and the deep routed fallaciousness in their ARGUMENTS , but dont just make up shit about someone you don't know and never met. You just come across as another angry atheist hurling insults everywhere. I dont think that helps the cause as people are defected from the real issues.

[@jonfromtheuk467]

@leumasdiderot I'm a resolute atheist , who just disapproves of your hyperbole and insults and considers it counter productive to dialog.

Great Lecture!

[@beemer2869]

God is amazing. You are spot on Justin. 💯 Percent agree. ❤️🙏❤️

[@1960taylor]

Excellent.....so well said.

[@J-aiJ-ai]

What a great way to reason so that people's eyes may be opened. We really could not have come here by chance. The odds are stacked against that bet. What I find super intriguing is that people would look at that option and actually embrace it.

[@scotte4765]

We don't know the odds. Justin grossly misrepresented both what the science says and how probabilities are determined in this talk.

[@pilgrimpiper7832]

Ultimately the proof is our own encounter with God when we take the leap of faith to follow Jesus.

[@niklaswikstrom78]

@@pilgrimpiper7832 yes, meaning there is no proof, just childish belief

[@1thess523]

Good stuff ☝️

[@janethockey9070]

Hidden nature of God makes the idea of freedom possible

[@julianbrown7976]

That is a really profound idea.

[@skibboshadow2670]

@@julianbrown7976 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@skibboshadow2670]

Janet Hockey. Your comment doesn't make any sense

[@MrCmon113]

@@julianbrown7976 It's a really disgusting excuse.

[@sharingan01746]

This video is incredibile, you are incredibile, thank you!

[@pisces3786]

God bless you Justin!

[@vadymtymofiienko521]

Loved your speech, Justin! Even noted your arguments and your explanations.

[@johncalvin3323]

Well said.

[@simonbradley4234]

Beautiful! Spot on.

[@gameofman]

Alhamdulillah. Hallelujah. By listening to refined ideas of Christian thinkers, I find my way illuminated towards understanding Islam and other religions from a different perspective.

[@vanlalruatamualchin3761]

What an inspiring lecture..

[@tonyburton419]

The easiest person to fool is yourself.

[@rickhall517930]

I love Dave Rubin and Professor Lennox. That sounds like a great show!

[@ntsokolomemani3874]

@Paul Morgan professor Lennox is a lost case. Makes up stories and call them evidence

[@johnmulvey5121]

Well done Justin. Excellent!

[@HoldFastApolpgetics]

Grateful for your edition regarding the Enneagram… it has been so misleading and harmful. Thankful you gave it airtime with both Wilson and Montenegro. The peril of Pragmatism was on display, but so was God’s sovereignty … it encouraged me to pray lots as well as to share the information with friends

[@jesussavedme4221]

God bless you

[@vinipyx2369]

Thank you for sharing this. After researching and listening to different point of views for a while. Being a medical professional I can see that evolution although a good explanation is not good enough, and a true relationship with Jesus is tangible, He actually speaks to your heart and performs miracles. And that is something that you can’t explain to those who dont have a relationship with him. Its like trying to explain colours to a person who can only see in black and white.

[@nichellegraf839]

Yep!!

[@frankvandermerwe1487]

How does being a medical professional make you "see that evolution although a good explanation is not good enough". That doesnt make any sense and is an argument from personal incredulity.

[@michaelbrickley2443]

Good comment especially the part about explaining colors

[@itzyourbwoytchybooxuur6475]

Tell that to the Hindu who thinks the same about Hale Krishna.

[@michaelbrickley2443]

@@itzyourbwoytchybooxuur6475 tell me all about the evidence for any of the gods that aren’t the God of the Bible. Read There Is A God by Antony Flew, the worlds most notorious atheist comes to believe there is a God.

[@shithead-wd9ww]

You're doing good work. Thanks.

[@Audrey-faithlife]

Amen , Brother . Great video.

[@jamalkhan3708]

Greetings from Pakistan. You’re an inspiration and you are right. Your messages touched my heart and mind. Thank you!

[@theguyver4934]

Can you please tell me your testimony thank you please 🙏

[@catlady9012]

Pakistan - failed country with lots of violence against women, poverty and animal cruelty. But good for you that you believe in God!!!

[@sandershano5758]

@@catlady9012 um okay? But let me just tell you, that you won’t find the kind of faith Pakistani Christians have or Christians from any third world country in the west. The West has failed us Christians.

[@dannymaciejewski]

Thanks Justin! You are inspirational!

[@rio-flex-8858]

Parabéns, brilhante!!

[@mylord9340]

Because your version of Christianity gives you hope, meaning, and purpose.

[@fherdiliciouzfherdz1525]

I believe most of us Christians had been in a journey of being an atheist at an early age when we deal with so many questions in our minds that seems impossible to be answered by God. but we continue to seek the answers that will satisfy us and eventually realize no Human opinions is really smart enough to give us all the evidence we needed to prove and disprove the existence of God. no wonder the Bible teaches that God will only exist through the word FAITH. Debating with the atheist is never really the answer as most of the comments I've read here. Instead of debating I believe it's better to pray for them. The Atheist is not the enemy but the one who gave them that idea which is the devil. So pray for them. Peace

[@rezgaid622]

Agree. Faith allows us to see from the perspective of God. Other than that, non-believers see it as foolish. Thus faith is a gift. No one can work for it.

[@MrSouthernlord]

And for what amazing reason do you have to pray for atheists? As we know that nothing fails like prayer it sounds like a pointless exercise. Perhaps you are better off ridding yourself of your ridiculous fantasies so that you can live in the real world. You are on a journey all right and the destination is stupidity central. Keep your condescending prayer offer to yourself!

[@logan3152]

this rapidly approaching thing is called ground

[@pescheriajonioblu8591]

Thank you

[@iqgustavo]

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 🎙️ Justin Brierley introduces himself and his radio show focused on helping Christians have better conversations with skeptics. 01:52 🌍 Christians often struggle with conversations about faith with skeptics, but it's important to engage constructively. 03:29 🤝 Society lacks the art of disagreeing agreeably; the show aims to model healthy dialogue. 05:16 🗣️ Upcoming events including a live show and conference in California featuring discussions on God, faith, and atheism. 08:02 📚 Responding to the New Atheism movement and the need to provide rational defenses for the Christian faith. 12:53 🔬 Exploring the fine-tuning of the universe for life and the evidence that points to an intelligent creator. 18:33 ❤️ Highlighting the intrinsic value of human life and how it's difficult to justify on atheistic worldviews. 22:55 📚 Richard Dawkins conversation: Discussion about human value and moral judgments between the interviewer and Richard Dawkins, highlighting the challenge of justifying moral values from an atheistic perspective. 24:48 🙏 Sense of human value: Christianity explains inherent human dignity and value through being made in the image of God, contrasting it with atheism's struggle to provide a foundation for such beliefs. 26:20 🚶‍♀️ Atheist to Christian journey: Jennifer's transition from atheism to Christianity due to a profound realization about the lack of meaning and purpose in atheism, emphasizing the disparity between atheistic and Christian narratives. 28:24 🌌 Atheism's universe: Atheism posits a universe of purposelessness, devoid of design or meaning, while contrasting Christian perspective sees purpose, love, truth, and beauty in the cosmos. 29:44 🌍 Longing for transcendence: C.S. Lewis' idea of longing for something more and the argument from transcendence, suggesting a deeper desire for meaning and purpose that points to another realm. 31:07 💞 Love and hope: Christianity provides love and hope, essential elements for human existence, through Jesus' sacrificial love and the hope found in his resurrection, contrasting with the bleak atheistic view. 32:56 📚 Faith and evidence: The presenter's book "Unbelievable" explores reasons for his continued Christian faith based on evidence from observing the universe and experiencing life, promoting confident conversations between believers and non-believers.

[@dohpam1ne]

I'm an antitheist, but Justin is a real one. Great guy and a great debate host.

[@LAdavidthompson]

Nice guy…really? He is personally perpetuating lies - constant lies about non-believers, lies to back up Christianity which is a putrid, dangerous cult, a scam.

[@appoljuce]

What a great surprise to join Reuben and Lennox

[@Marius.82.]

God bless you!

[@michaelcordell4394]

Nailed it! Justin 👍

[@batman5224]

I can’t believe I cried while watching this.

[@nicholas3354]

I almost cried, when Justin said that Dawkins admitted that the wrongfulness of rape is arbitrary. Yet I was moved in super-positive ways also. Justin did an excellent job of refining this half hour into a very powerful potent expression of how true and loving and valuable Christ is. When Justin spoke of Christ expressing His value for us on The Cross Of His Love, I felt tears of joy behind my eyes. Paul wept as he wrote one of his epistles. The strength to weep is necessary if we are to accept Truth; both joyful tears and lamenting tears. Much love to you brother. 💕💗💞💓💖💝 Jesus bless you.

[@nicholas3354]

@ To become a person who has the wisdom to see the proof is a miracle of God. Christ Crucified is where you will find the proof, nowhere else. Even His resurrection is proven by The Crucifixion and nothing else. There is some good history, but that is far from proof. For me to even defend my own epistemology is very time consuming. If you are interested, you can subscribe to my channel. I'm going to make daily vocab videos which will clarify the Greek and Hebrew, and they will include thorough justification of the claims therein. Also, I'm working on a Greek Access New Testament which is designed exactly to offer access to study the original Greek, and will include a one-to-one translation in order to serve that purpose. I'm also going to write a book which will outline true Christianity. True Christianity is very different from what you have been shown; at least the differences are incredibly important differences. I'm not going to spend time to specifically debate you Jacob. I think you easily see why I won't do this. Really, I need to stop online debating all together and focus on my projects. However, online debating has prepared me for my projects, so it's not quite black and white. But Jacob, if you have genuine interest I am a good source. Vocab videos, that thoroughly demostrate their justification, probably won't offer you anything to troll though. I'm not sure how soon I'll start uploading, but soon enough for long term interest. Much love to you. 💕💗💞💓💖💝

[@nicholas3354]

@ My belief is Christianity which is trust in Christ, not churchianity which is trust in church. If you need to strawman Christ, then I see that you cannot refute Him. "Spread flat the gate and broad the way which leads to destruction, and many there be who go in thereat. Standing narrow the gate and crowded the way which leads to life, and few there be who find it. Beware of false prophets who come to you in sheeps clothing but inwardly are ravening wolves..." - Jesus the Christ Pretty clear that to cite those which Jesus Himself refuted is a very poor strawman. Now, I'm inclined to think you are simply an abusive person. You keep calling Him "dead Jesus" because you hope to be offensive. It's not enlightening nor informative to anyone when you assert that He is dead. "Buybull" at least says something, though after a full day of seeing you repeat that pun over and over, I didn't even notice the implication until just now, and before I thought it was just a silly way of spelling it phonetically. Your comments are not challenging and so they do not draw real attention, and so I didn't even bother to take a close look at "Buybull". The comments draw attention the way an annoying child might, but not in a debate sense. In the Bible "miracle" is either force/power or else an indication/sign. Your definition fits many of the events, but is not the meaning of the word in Scripture. The miracle I speak of is not a defiance of physical law but rather an indication of God's power, an event for which there is no other possible explanation. The wisdom of The Cross is beyond any human wisdom, and so cannot be a myth because no human has the wisdom capable to orchestrate such a myth. Nothing else compares. If you are given the wisdom to see that, then you will see it. The New Testament is a level of wisdom so drastically surpassing the best wisdom ego can offer, and without ego lying is impossible, so the Scripture cannot be lies either. Truth and wisdom and rightousness are one, so such wisdom requires righteousness, and so again cannot be lies. If you've noticed how pathetic trolls are, then you should easily see that Scripture is not a troll. The liars of this world demonstrate how pathetic the minds of liars are. For instance, Islam came from liars and it's absurd. Buddhism and Taoism are honest, and they are not absurd. Now, Jacob, if you do not have Truth then you are not aware how obvious, stupid, and pathetic lies are. If you were aware of that, you would see that Scripture is not lies. I remember what it was like to not see the difference, so I get where you are coming from. My point in speaking to you is to offer a bit of info, such as what I said about "miracle", but more so my point is just to let you know that you don't pose any challenging points or anything. If someone uses such weak refutation tactics, then obviously they wouldn't recognize strong refutation, because if so then they would use refutations that at least seem strong. If someone can't recognize strong debate, then I won't bother debating. I can't tell if you think there is merit in the points you state, or if you are just entertaining yourself with no regard to such merit.

[@nicholas3354]

@ We both know better than that Jacob; especially you. Whatever you are compensating for, Jesus will gladly heal it.

@@nicholas3354 I have no need to compensate for anything. You must understand that I have everything you have spent your whole life failing to achieve. I never needed anyone's help along the way, I stood on my own. I am not weak and needy as you. I came by everything in my life without hurting anyone else, without doing anyone else a disservice. You need to examine your limitations and decide why you are the way you are.

[@brain0nfire]

I would like to see Lennox debate Dilahunty. I'm curious to see whether they'd reach a stalemate or not.

[@perfectweather]

Matt Dillahunty has a lot of clout that would be an awesome debate

[@brando3342]

@Sem Nome Dilihunty has been severely outclassed by several theists already. Look up the debate with Michael Jones.

[@brain0nfire]

@@brando3342 I'll check it out, thanks.

[@brando3342]

@Sem Nome No problem!

[@brain0nfire]

@@brando3342 It was an interesting debate, but it was a bit restricted for my taste. I'd much rather watch metaphysical showdowns. This one was more focused on legitimacy of religion backed conducts vs atheistic humanist ones. I'm not a guy that supports Matt on his humanist morality tirades, but I do think he is a power house of debate. He is very solid. I appreciate very much the hint. I'm not a theist but I do believe religion and Christianity have very usefull qualities to offer to social cohesion and moral high grounds. I think Christians and atheists should unite forces to push back mostly on Islam, which for me still holds very archaic practices that are spreading at full throttle in Africa, Asia, Middle East and transfiguring Europe with no going back. I very much wish people take Islam seriously and go to the frontlines, prozelitizng for western values and way of life.

[@prabingolapi2807]

Thanks sir.

[@Thagomizer]

Good. We need more talks like this.

[@HarryNicNicholas]

not really. it's both surprising and not surprising that so few people can see through this guy. but, if you believe in pixies....

[@Thagomizer]

@@HarryNicNicholas I think the exact same thing whenever I listen to popular atheist speakers, minus the part about pixies.

[@LoveYourNeighbour.]

This is the CROWNING JEWEL of your work Justin! I read your book (of the same name) and I LOVED it!

[@HarryNicNicholas]

hahahahaha. you need to get out more.

[@zahariachirica5466]

I am an atheist and Listening to your show I've become even more ashiest if I may say so😅

[@mr.c2485]

We ALL want the same thing.... soundness of mind. Do we not spend all of our time, energies, resources, etc, in this pursuit? It’s obvious that status, education, possessions, relationships, religion, etc don’t provide for soundness of mind. So.....If this soundness exists , then how does one achieve it without the use of malice aforethought....given the infinite amount of eventualities and people out there that continually test it?

[@Dominick13777]

Excellent!!!

[@BlueRainMusic1]

The first argument can be easily dismissed by this: If the christian god is omnipotent then he can do whatever he wants i.e. if he wanted us to live on the sun then he would have made it so. The speaker tries to dip into both supernaturalism and naturalism. If the christian god is omnipotent you don't need exact conditions 'cause as we can read in the bible people were raised fron the dead and even donkeys could speak! So natural conditions as we know it are not an impediment for the christian god. 2.Regarding the rape issue and "morality". what about slavery? killing homosexuals? stoning your children for misbehaving? don't those also raise that "feeling of wrongness"? Yet they are condoned and commanded by the christian god. 3. The argument is framed from a binary point of view. Is christianity the only religion in the world? That "feeling" has also been fulfilled by other religious and non-spiritual believe systems. That feeling seems to be a place holder for a belief system (atheistic, theistic and everything in between), not necessarily christianity. Love the show!!

[@BlueRainMusic1]

@Rishal Charles I'm a Deist.

[@SNORKYMEDIA]

@Rishal Charles that there isnt a god deciding this stuff

[@Patrick77487]

Not only do theists denigrate life / human value. They hold contempt for laws of physics.

[@Hesse3]

I love your work as a host. The way you create a space for dialogue is beyond compare. This was not for me.

[@johnnytass2111]

Look up Pastor Paul Vanderklay on KZbin and perhaps ask him to discuss these themes. He is very insightful and thoughtful.

[@theepicpenguin5494]

The three points summarized here by Justin seem to be well thought out. As an atheist, I think Justin actually manages to properly represent my worldview. The only problem I have with the three points here is, at best, they manage to make a strong philosophical case for a deity. If this gets you anywhere it gets you to deism, not theism. This does not, on its' own merit, get you to Christianity.

[@lindenhouseeditingservices5236]

Jeff Paxton, finally, an atheist in these threads makes a valid point.

[@ReasonableFaith-Charlotte]

Well done, Justin.

[@drewrichards27]

Well delivered, certainly, but his presentation of the atheist viewpoint was disingenuous and maybe even deceitful.

[@NihouNi]

I love the respect and kindness that you bring to this topic. I think there is a kind of fearlessness too, of allowing yourself to encounter beliefs that do not match your won. That shows a real depth of faith, and I thank you for sharing it with the world at a time when belief in our loving God seems to be so low.

[@natsam1411]

Wow enjoyed 👏👏👏👏

[@katehillier1027]

Love having unbelievable.

[@MUZIK731]

I paused the video at 18:03. We don't have scientific information about multiple universes nor do we have any scientific information of "someone loading the dice".

[@rogerkreil3314]

Would he feel that life is valueless if he was considered to be invaluable? The truth is that if you don’t know where you will be, you will have to consider all human life to be valuable. The kids in the sewers believed that their lives were valuable.

[@wolfman6649]

Roger Kreil or the complete opposite of your argument is true, there is no reason to consider anyone as valuable since we are all cosmic accidents.

[@candeffect]

@@wolfman6649 You believe in 'cosmic accidents' with no proof for your religion to justify the lifestyles you support.

[@carlosreira413]

JB, you are a class act.

[@kathleenhendrix6280]

Love and hope 🙏🤟💓

[@Sldejo]

Well look at that! I’m now subscribed also! 👍🏾

[@Alun49]

I do not object to Justin remaining a Christian despite his dialogues with atheists over the years, but I found myself having to say, over and over again, no, that is not what atheists believe. At no point did Justin provide a steel man representation of the atheist position and instead tended towards straw manning. Disappointing to say the least.

[@themilkmanshallrise1885]

To be fair, if you're claiming a Christian worldview is superior to a secular worldview, you pretty much have to straw man the atheist position at that point.

[@Alun49]

@@themilkmanshallrise1885 True.

[@BoshSoldierCarp]

It bugs me as well. He makes a claim about the universe being fine tuned. We say prove it.

[@kaykwanu]

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 🎙️ *Justin Brierley runs a faith debate show in the UK aimed at helping Christians engage in better conversations with skeptics.* 01:11 📻 *In the UK, more people claim to be atheist or have no religion than those claiming a Christian faith, reflecting a broader trend of secularization in the West.* 02:07 🌍 *Brierley's show "Unbelievable?" brings together believers and non-believers, fostering mutual dialogue and understanding, with a growing audience globally.* 03:01 🗣️ *The show aims to model good conversations, combating cultural polarization and helping Christians navigate discussions about faith respectfully.* 04:50 🎤 *Brierley's efforts extend beyond radio, including video dialogues, conferences, and live shows, fostering engagement with Christian thinkers and addressing tough questions.* 06:52 🎙️ *The show provides a neutral ground for dialogue, attracting atheists and non-believers who appreciate having their ideas taken seriously.* 07:21 💡 *Brierley emphasizes the integration of faith and intellect, encouraging Christians to engage critically and confidently in conversations about their beliefs.* 08:16 📚 *Brierley addresses the rise of aggressive atheism, particularly associated with figures like Richard Dawkins, by presenting Christianity as intellectually credible and compelling.* 09:39 🤔 *Brierley highlights the role of apologetics in defending and explaining the Christian worldview, stressing that both believers and atheists have a burden to justify their respective worldviews.* 12:12 🔍 *Brierley begins a series of arguments for Christianity, starting with the notion that God provides the best explanation for human existence, contrasting with atheism's lack of a satisfying explanation.* 19:17 🔬 *Brierley points to scientific discoveries such as the fine-tuning of the universe and the complexity of DNA as evidence supporting the existence of a creator, challenging the narrative that science disproves God.* 19:58 🌌 *The odds against human existence by chance are significant, suggesting a purposeful explanation.* 20:38 🚸 *The story of James Jerry Miller rescuing children from sewers highlights the intrinsic value of human life.* 22:29 🤔 *Atheism struggles to provide a satisfactory explanation for why human life is valued.* 24:48 🧠 *Atheist Richard Dawkins acknowledges the arbitrariness of moral beliefs in a godless universe.* 26:20 🌍 *Atheism offers a bleak perspective on purpose compared to Christianity's narrative of meaning and hope.* 27:01 💔 *Jennifer Fulwiler's realization challenges the atheistic view of love and purpose as mere chemical reactions.* 28:09 🌌 *Richard Dawkins' perspective reflects a universe devoid of purpose or meaning, contrasting with the experience of love, truth, and beauty.* 30:39 💖 *Christianity offers love and hope through Jesus Christ, providing meaning and purpose to life.* 32:56 📖 *Despite encountering objections, the speaker remains a Christian due to Christianity's compelling narrative supported by evidence.* Made with HARPA AI