Why Allen Parr LEFT His Church

[@jessyjonas4988]

Rightly dividing the Word of God is a biblical command

[@GraceMinisterKev]

Yes! I wish more understood this! It’s not enough to just be biblical. You must rightly divide

[@achienghellen3910]

Pray for your fellow believers. It should grieve us when fellow brethren are in a crisis. It's not a competition please

[@familylife]

💯!

[@MarkWoltz]

Jesus said in John 6:44 “no man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him”. This is not about joining the church of your choice. It’s about a person being called by God.

[@belindamoore3518]

This title is click bait. He still is at his current church in Dallas.

[@bk12ist]

Thanks for saving my time

[@familylife]

Apologies for the apparent clickbait. You're correct: This is regarding a church he previously left.

[@jessyjonas4988]

“Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 16 But shun profane and [e]idle babblings, for they will [f]increase to more ungodliness. 17 And their message will spread like cancer. “ 2 Timothy 2

[@EricGreniervideo]

Love Allen Parr!

[@Team_Blackledge]

If you’re going to deconstruct your faith, there needs to be a plan to reconstruct 🙏

[@C.Hood22]

When it comes to deconstruction, from what I’ve seen and learned from the younger generation, they’re looking for something real. The gospel as we know is real, but most “Christian” households are nominal. Jesus often says in the gospels “you have heard it said… but I say to you…” I think similar to that notion, our children have heard one thing being preached but seen a very different orthopraxcy which can lead to questioning the validity of what they’ve been taught. I don’t have all the answers and am a new parent but my hope is that if we raise our kids up on solid rock like the house built on solid rock, we shouldn’t be too anxious when the waves come and test them. I think when we raise them up in nominalistic and traditional mindset that sometimes contradict the scriptures, we actually encourage their doubt as they seek to find existence of people living in a kingdom not of this world.

[@shaylaparks17]

I agree. Amen

[@print3328]

Exactly

[@Sonny_Contreras]

The early church was a lifeboat for rescuing the perishing. Today's church is a cruise ship for pampering the prosperous. The early Church was married to poverty, prisons and persecutions. Today, the Church is married to prosperity, personality and popularity. Leonard Ravenhill

[@ottoniellandrau665]

Its hard because every time I've taken the time to warn a family member or a friend that is involved with a church who has false teaching, bad theology, or prosperity teaching I've been accused of being judgmental, pharisee, or religious fanatic.

[@familylife]

You're right--it's so difficult to communicate with love on topics that feel so personal, especially when people might feel defensive.

[@johannestaranger2691]

I wonder if Allen Parr stil holds to the theology " Once saved, always saved" which he has presented in earlier videos ? This theology is clearly unbiblical, so hopefully he has studied most of the at least 80 verses in the Bible which contradict this theology. It is so important for us believers to be aware of the truths of the Bible, and not let go astray into false doctrines. This theology has similarities with Calvinism and Islam. They both advocate the theory the Predestination, that God has already decided who shall be saved and not. That contradicts the Biblical truth that God wants that EVERYBODY shall be saved. He does not remove our free will when we are saved. So we still can decide to leave the faith and live a sinful life, even if we have been saved. He will give us several chances to repent. And if we do, He surely will forgive. If we decide to leave the faith, God cannot refuse our decision. He is both good and just and holy. We can refer to 1. Timothy 4,1 " Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teaching of demons". Let us hope Allen Parr has repented and embraced the Biblical teaching, as he has so many followers on his youtube channel. He has a lot of good teaching. We must beware, and examine that these youtube channels produce Biblical truths, only, and not let us go astray .

[@bethr8756]

Thats not a traditional Baptist church you described

[@SimonChukwuma-s8n]

Allen claims here that he was “saved” at the early age of 8 years as a Baptist without knowing the Lord, or having any relationship with the Lord, and without ever reading the Bible. So, was Allen “saved” without “faith?” I’m just curious because he must be a special New Testament creature to be saved without faith in Christ Jesus. What does it really mean to be “saved?” Don’t forget that salvation according to Allen’s belief and teaching is by faith alone. He has also in several videos taught and promoted John Calvin’s false doctrine of “Once Saved Always Saved” while denying being Calvinist. Ironically, in his video titled “Free Grace Theology vs. Lordship Salvation” published in 2023, Allen makes it clear to his audience that “by simply repeating a few words when they were 8 years old but choosing to live their lives any way they want after is not good enough to get them to heaven.” So, how was Allen saved when he was 8 years old and remained saved before college? Since being saved after repeating those words cannot get them to heaven if they live their lives any way they want (perhaps sinfully), have they not lost their salvation? If they don’t get to heaven, have they not lost their salvation? Does anyone notice Allen’s contradictory theology here? Then he went to college (at what age please?) and joined another protestant church, started reading the Bible probably in his second college year, and realized as a college student (way before attending the seminary) that the church was a false church teaching false doctrines. Let me analyze this. The average age of a college freshman in the US is around 18 years old. Hypothetically, Allen got saved at age 8 and for the next 10 years without faith in Christ or knowing His word, and without having any relationship with Him, Allen was still saved. Right? Magically like Mike Gendron, once he picked up the Bible for the first time at age 19 or more, as a college student who never read the Bible before, he quickly figured out the truth and was able to discern that the very church through which he came to faith for the first time was teaching false doctrines. This to me makes some sense because it is a common characteristic of Protestantism and the protestant churches. Every man a pope with regard to interpretation, if you disagree go create your own church. A church is false not because it is devoid of truth, but because it lacks the fullness of it. Likewise, a teaching or doctrine may be false not because it is totally lacking in truth, but because it lacks the fullness of truth revealed to man for his salvation through Christ Jesus. Again, like Mike Gendron who claimed that he first read the Bible at the age of 35+ and blamed it on the Catholic Church, is Allen blaming his Baptist Christian parents or the Baptist church for not reading the Bible until college even after he was saved at age 8 as claimed? So, you left the undisclosed church and joined which church, or did you create yours? Did Jesus command us to build churches or to belong to the one He built himself? Allen probably now believes with all his heart that he has figured out the Bible and he’s completely teaching and equipping others with biblical truth. He is now a parent, and I agree with him that many “religious” or Christian parents do not know the truth from error, but does Allen agree with me that many parents too know the truth but choose to teach errors for reasons best known to them? For instance, those who teach that salvation is by faith alone and that “Once Saved Always Saved” are teaching errors. Does Allen teach any of these? You, be the judge. But James said, “You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone, 2:24.” Even unbelievers do good works not as evidence of their justification because they aren’t justified yet. And on the day Christ returns everyone will be rewarded according to their works or deeds. Rev. 22:12, Matt. 25:31-40, etc. As you equip unsuspecting Christians, remember James’ counsel, “Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness, 3:1.” It is spiritually unwise and unhealthy for anyone born outside the first 1500 years of Christianity to claim they have figured out or that the Holy Spirit has revealed to them the meaning of the written word of God that contradicts what THE SAME Spirit had revealed to the Church during the first 1500 years. God never contradicts himself. I hope Family Life forwards this message to their guest. God bless.

[@Veretax]

They're actually quite a lot of people with a similar testimony. A lot of people want to say well you don't see them suddenly on fire and doing all this stuff so then conversion might not have been real? What I have discovered is that many churches put a huge emphasis on getting people just to take a come forward and confess and put your faith and maybe even get baptized and then they don't have a plan for how to transition those young believers into knowledge of the bible. They throw them into an existing Sunday school with no real framework no will discussion or training and I say that there has been a discipleship crisis in this country for 30 years. Discipleship is not just bringing somebody to profess Faith discipleship is then teaching them what the Bible says it comes after that decision

[@bethr8756]

You're not really saying what's the false teaching?? This isn't making sense

[@bethr8756]

So what was the false teaching?? What's wrong with raising your hands???

[@abri1997]

“My” “His” “Our”church, guys please stop using such possessive words. The Church belongs to Christ, no one else . It may not seem much to you but this is extremely important. The body of Christ can’t be divided, and if you are divided that’s because you’ve never belong to Her.

[@correyteague8272]

? God has a way he said to study his word if you havent been studying the way he said to then it dosent matter if you been in church 50 yrs you have been studying it all wrong 2 Tim 2 15

[@MichaelDillard-t3t]

Nothing new, many of the disciples were mislead also, Peter was a zealot, Paul was a Pharisee, etc

[@Idontlikethisever]

He still believes Halloween is ok for Christian’s?

[@jamescolbert1]

This is a deceptive title.

[@CanditoTrainingHQ]

Become Catholic or Orthodox, or else you'll always have to worry about bouncing around churches due to charisma and lack of authority.

[@Unknown.servant]

😂😂😂become Catholic so you will always wonder which way the political winds are blowing the beliefs of the pope. In the pope you have no hope. Our hope is in Christ! There is one mediator between man and God

[@srich7503]

@@Unknown.servant except when you ask others to pray for you. 👍🏻

[@Unknown.servant]

@srich7503 that would be intercessory prayer, not mediation

[@srich7503]

@@Unknown.servant and that would be exactly why your straw man of the Catholic faith has no pants.

[@Unknown.servant]

@@srich7503 just One who is the Propitiation

[@ivanjimenez7722]

How can you he saved if you don’t know the Lord?

[@lastpreacher9093]

Guy got paid to lead worship?

[@kenndavid7172]

Yea... you shouldn't be paid for doing ministry??

[@lastpreacher9093]

@@kenndavid7172 If men pay you for “doing ministry,” as you call it, you have received your reward from them. At the end of the day, why should a man get paid for worshipping Jesus? If men pay you for worshipping Jesus, they are your employers. It is no longer service to God but an income generating activity. Anyway, your conscience will speak.

[@kenndavid7172]

@@lastpreacher9093 the bible says in 1 Timothy 5:17-18 that a man should be paid for his service in Ministry...

[@AdvEug]

@@lastpreacher9093 Would you rather have a Pastor who spends 40-80 hours a week preparing messages, visiting the sick in the church or those in need...etc or have one that have a fulltime job that has maybe an hour a day outside of family to spend preparing to shepherd the sheep of the church? MY question is how do you think the first one should provide? Did you read the Levites had no inheritance but took a share of the offerings and it was for their family too.

[@lastpreacher9093]

@@AdvEug Guy in question got paid for leading worship in different churches; was not a pastor. Even pastors had better start working because lately, all we see is them living lavish lifestyles funded by the church tithes and offerings while widows and orphans are starving in the churches. Do pastors need private jets and limousines? Do they have to sleep in five-star hotels? You’re free to fund them with your money anyway, if you feel like doing so. Jesus is Lord.