Why Amazon has been so strict about TOT and rate lately (The Great Amazon Purge)

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[@concretejungle6938]

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[@C11]

Wonderful insight as always Concrete Jungle! I always appreciate your thoughts and opinions. Amazing

[@concretejungle6938]

@@C11 Thank you C11...I try.

[@Laotzsa]

Just so all you guys know, your full 30 min breaks by law, are uninterrupted, this means if your break is from 10:30-11, you don’t have to leave your break area until 11. Walking to and from your work area to your break area is considered work, not break. And if it takes you 5 min to get to your break, leave 5 min early from work station to be to your break on time… I’ll say it again. It is ILLEGAL for your manager to expect you to be back as soon as your break ends, because this would mean your break was not uninterrupted. It’s federal law, talk to HR about it and get this cleared up because I hate to see Amazon managers taking advantage of our precious break time when they work us so hard. My manager tried telling me my 30 min break was only really 20 min because of the 5 min it took to walk to and from the break area back to work area. I contacted HR and they said no your break is uninterrupted. Which means by law to achieve this I need to leave work area 5 min before break and I need 5 min to walk back after break which means I won’t be back till 5 after; this is because walking to and from break area is considered WORK, not break. Stop getting taken advantage of and stand up for our rights. One more time, this is Federal regulations that your breaks be uninterrupted. I’m done with managers thinking stealing 10 min from us is going to help rate any. It’s sickening and most people are brainwashed. Just give HR a call and clear this up. I’d call in to HR, not talk to the one at your location. I’ll add this goes for the US. Idk about other countries laws. But by god I’m taking my full breaks uninterrupted and if someone wants to get sued over being so stingy to take 5 min here and there from me and tell me walking the massive warehouse isn’t considered work, than by god they’ll get sued AF. Think about it. If your shift starts at 6 your not required to clock in at 5:55 to get across warehouse by 6. Your expected to clock in at 6. No earlier, and the time it takes to walk to work area after that is clearly work. Otherwise they wouldn’t put the clock in and out areas by the break rooms.

[@vivianlopez7495]

Found on LinkedIn Amazon shareholders will vote on whether the company should undergo an independent audit regarding its treatment of warehouse workers, Reuters reports. The e-commerce giant tried to block the resolution, but was rebuffed by the SEC, the U.S.’s top securities regulator. As Reuters notes, Amazon has drawn “increasing criticism” for its treatment of workers, including allegations of unsafe conditions and baseless firings. Earlier this month, workers at an Amazon warehouse in Staten Island, New York, voted to unionize, the first such victory at the company in the U.S.

[@lindaschultz7900]

Thank you for this information. Spot on !!

[@dungusglumbus9946]

The system will take everything from you when times are good, and leave you in the dirt when times are bad. They don’t care about us. Never forget that

[@slightlygone]

for real, they are doing everything they can to let ppl go. It's show how little they care about their employees

[@C11]

It's all about the money

[@scrums173]

The job is not for everybody I don’t blame them

[@RABSTRAINS]

I have been an employee for Amazon a total of 7 months at two different sites. The Fulfillment Centers are so strict which causes major stress. I worked sort centers and the ones I worked at were so much better as far as someone looking over your shoulder all the time. I enjoy the sort centers at Amazon Air locations so much better. Amazon just creates so much stress for their associates! It s obvious why their turn over rate is so high! They may have awesome benefits that begin day one, but the associates pay a price for this both mentally and physically.

[@JonnyD-gl7cn]

Still the biggest trap is UPT! Negative UPT still gets most fired over anything!

[@jasminequiles4074]

I’ve in Amazon for 2 years and now all of sudden they are on me about my rate picking even though it’s not my actual department and given me write ups. I’m just giving a hand since as of late they are low on pickers. And at my actual department I give good performance. And now I feel like they are trying to use this as an excuse to terminate me.

[@benjamingreenbaum1631]

They probably let you go did this to me in counting good at picking.

[@badonkadonc6963]

✋Don't forget the NOTORIOUS CUT HOURS!!! Also hiring so MANY people that shifts are VERY competitive..... for instance dropping 3 shifts when they have 50 new and old employees trying to work the mandatory or minimum... It's RIDICULOUS 👎

[@jadajjlakee]

Literally they told me to just go to the washroom I don’t need to ask, all of a sudden that rule changed and I need to ask plus they are on me about TOT. I’m quitting tomorrow because they facility is poorly run, they use you and no one even cares if you get hurt instead they try to blame you because they don’t want to pay someone unless they are working like a dog.

[@NeonGreenSpidey]

Bruh same thing is happening to me.

[@mikelopez5217]

If the water spiders don’t open the boxes an we got to take time to do that an stow at the same time then tot shouldn’t exist just because I’m not scanning doesn’t mean I’m not working there’s organizing my station opening stuff doing multi packs

[@C11]

100% facts and this is the biggest reason on why I hate TOT and why I don't understand how people can defend it... It's just a broken system.

[@mikelopez5217]

@@C11 how I think it should be every hour management has to walk the floor an look for people who our simply standing around doing absolutely nothing those our the people you write up erase tot system

[@ib5760]

They are firing blue badge Amazonions and hiring seasonal so they save money! I left Amazon as a blue badge and came back a month later and the pay went down .70 cent.

[@benjamingreenbaum1631]

I didn't even cap out at 18.90 I had until 19.90.people.bs themselves through the Amazon system.

[@vivianlopez7495]

I really appreciate your research/insight of Amazon. It helps me how to work and deal with Amazon. Even though I’m having a rough time there, they have AWESOME BENEFITS! 😊

[@Slash67]

30 minutes is not long enough. Even when coaches come to talk to you.

[@Slash67]

Probably pissed that Staten Island unionized

[@Slash67]

We have alot of vto at our sight too.

[@tfh5575]

we’re getting MET. i miss the constant VTO we had after christmas up to mid february. i got written up for rate even though they keep giving me huge boxes to stow that won’t fit anywhere. i expressed to my manager that i disagree and don’t think it’s fair. i can’t lie this is the worst job i’ve ever had

[@C11]

MET??? Damn and the write up.. I'm sorry to hear that. That's awful

[@carlaburton3970]

Tot is wrong .I don't think it's accurate

[@GeneralSunbeam]

Last week Saturday, I took over an hour long break after clocking out for my flex 30 minute unpaid break from 10- 10:30AM. After that I took another 30 break & a pick or CAPs manager came to talk to me about that. I told them I had a migraine headache & was told to go to another process job path. I don't know how TOT/down time works. Do Amazon track your time upon clocking in? I am not sure how that works on tracking your activity, because I usually do waterspider where I am not signed into any device or machine.

[@Jessica-dg7gj]

I’ve noticed changes at my site in WA…the slackers are slacking a lot less. Also I work graveyard and when I go to work the parking lot is a lot emptier and they are ALWAYS offering VTO… like EVERYDAY! We also run out of product a lot and have to watch the same training videos over and over again until the issues are resolved. 🤔 Great video! Thank you. I always learn a lot coming here.

[@C11]

Thank you so much for your insight and for watching the videos! It's much appreciated

[@ib5760]

My site is the total opposite. We have Vet every weeks

[@cesaraguilar9096]

@@ib5760 same here in So Cal at my location there's plenty of overtime 🤑💰

[@nathanielvillegas7402]

Managers code TOT because it hurts the overall building's rate, so TOT is basically eliminated once it's coded. However, managers still are aware of who has TOT, so whoever gets TOT without justification gets written up.

[@payne02000]

Exactly right ,,

[@C11]

I was unaware of it. That's not surprising though, smh

[@67barr]

I quit a month ago. Gave a 3 day notice. I received an email asking to re apply if I chose to. I will not go back!

[@alennanguyen9835]

I was looking to quit as well. I thought you can just leave without any noticed?

[@67barr]

@@alennanguyen9835 you can. My shift was Thurs - sat and I told them on Thursday. If I could do it again I wouldn’t of said anything. I got worked the hardest my last 3 days than any other day.

[@alennanguyen9835]

Ooh okay. Yeah I rather just leave without any noticed. I work Thursday to Saturday as well, and the job is just ridiculous 🙃. But I'm waiting for thr rest of sign-on bonus bf I go bc I worked so hard to miss it 😅

[@williamakin8760]

I got the same email too

[@lindaschultz7900]

@@alennanguyen9835 I am waiting also. Once I get the money I'm transferring with Amazon to another state that I can afford. Did you know they used to pay employees to move around the country if they needed someone to fill in? Amazon stopped that. I'm just glad they are transferring me. Hopefully they don't take months to transfer people. I can't afford it here. The state I live in SUX. Too expensive and I've never met such NASTY people. It's getting overcrowded and it rains like I'm living in Seattle Washington. Nothing to do in this state either.

[@Bat_Boy]

Pro tip: if you use an acronym, like TOT, you need to point out, what it stands for in the first mention (of writing or speaking). I’m googling TOT now.

[@lzesk73]

My fc is offering shifts and no vto.

[@NikNik1105]

My fc as well just more shifts and no vto.

[@tfh5575]

same

[@ltt5421]

Their rate is ridiculous, their bin system needs to be re-evaluated Why if I scanned 11 boxes size 18 & 16 I received por size 6 &9 They want us to take bin etiquett very serious but their system doesn’t help at all. When it comes to people using the rest room that a natural need , is no the staff’s fault how facilities were built , or when they change break time at the last minute because they are not getting their numbers, is normal to use the restroom every two hrs, if you have health condition probably more. Their productivity system is unrealistic, and when you receive bin size 18 & 16 they full because they keep giving VTO to pickers.

[@yalelangworthy6261]

My site has “strict” rules on tot and rate but gladly my managers are too skiddish and timid so no one is being written up, I’m at pick and everyone is picking around 240-250 and they can’t write anyone up because then they’d have no workers but at the same time non of us have a reason to speed up because it wouldn’t do anything 🤷‍♂️ I’ve only been threatened with not being able to ambassador which I don’t care about

[@garybeltrand5802]

I love how they use indirect roles like that. Good ole Amazon. Just do everything with passive-aggressive threatening and negative communication. Must be part of their "Leadership Principles". Indirect roles don't pay more, but they are more challenging and give Amazon more value from the employees that are able to do them well, so it is mutually beneficial. Instead of appreciating that, they try to mind game you and act like they're doing you a huge favor. "We'll take you off indirect. We'll cut your indirect shifts." Just nonsense.

[@lindaschultz7900]

@@garybeltrand5802 I agree !! They act like car salesmen and they gaslight people. They are definitely trained by management to use these tactics.

[@garybeltrand5802]

@@lindaschultz7900 Yeah, all their "motivation" techniques involve running bs angles on people. Insulting as hell. "Oh, I can tell you hate picking. I have a big treat for you. I'm gonna let you push a cart loaded with totes all shift! Just make sure you work really hard or I'll give that special job to someone else. Do good and we'll train you for many other special jobs that you won't get paid any more for doing."

[@lindaschultz7900]

Well I hope every Amazon in the country gets unionized. Everyone that works their ass off should get $30 an hour and over an hour for break. I heard the employee that tried to unionize Amazon in Staten Island lost his job but he still continued to fight for us amazonians and won. There are still some good people in this crazy world.

[@C11]

Lol that's exactly why no one aims for those super high rates. You don't get a reward for it

[@ana-2643]

Same thing is happening at my job, they are changing everything (illinois)

[@danielgutierrez585]

TOT is why I like being a problem solver, we’re basically not trackable and can go the RR whenever and take extended breaks

[@tatianamurder1668]

yeah I’m a problem solver & I’m pregnant. I have a very strong work ethic and I move very fast but sometimes I need extra time on my break. Yesterday I was told by a learning ambassador that my manager expressed concern & that it’s not fair to the other workers and that I need to be back on time. I’m just like where is the concern for a pregnant women being on her feet 10+ hours a day? I’m glad I’m off tomorrow because this week has been rough on me.

[@modupeolawinjobi4960]

​@@tatianamurder1668 sorry to hear that!

[@zachpetersen2896]

I work a DS and do Hazmat every once in a time.....over the radio I hear a constant TOT check.....getting wild out here

[@lindaschultz7900]

My coworker and I are really hustling. Our manager sees that and keeps us working. But let me tell ya . . . we sweat and have waves of fatigue. We are totally drained at the end of our shift. I really need this job.

[@Thepapperman]

I see this now they got me in flats none of the people like me in flats so I dont know how but they say I wasn't productive for 30 min and threatened me with tot I got that stupid scanner and I was told to move karts witch is broken I'm working on my way out I got that feeling they dont want me here because they let there favorites do what ever plus it's too many clicks and your right they are fallowing people around alot

[@efrainmendoza2904]

I’m still getting MET at at my site, my manager is cool he me knows that they are starting to care about tot again

[@benjamingreenbaum1631]

Oh I forgot one restroom each floor taken by another employee you can't use the restroom at work

[@luisnavarrete7355]

I was stowing last night and it seemed like every manager was out to get me. I was talked to 6 times by different AM about rate or break compliance. But I noticed they were going through every station it’s like they had something to say to everyone I also got a pop up message on the computer saying I had MET coming up and if I was aware of it

[@C11]

MET? Disgusting

[@luisnavarrete7355]

@@C11 so far I don’t see anything on my schedule. I wonder if it’s a way for them to keep me on my toes because why would there be MET when there’s not much to even do

[@evilangelboy]

My FC has been offering whole shifts of VTO for about a month. They stopped doing that and have started mid shift VTO but they have started adding extra shifts for those who want them. We have been running into an issue with not enough trailers in the yard. Dunno what that's all about. I got sent up from dock to stow last week and got audited for FOO. I did great but it just seemed pretty set up.

[@C11]

We were slowing down on the VTO as well and there was even a day or two last week where there was no VTO available before the shift started, but things immediately changed and they realized there was no work at all, and right back to the huge VTO batches we went. A full week was offered the week before hand. Same thing here, no trailers in the yard. I imagine it has something to do with less product overall due to the lockdowns in China, possibly? Not entirely sure though

[@ttmverified7712]

Honestly I agree with what your saying. In my location I’ve been hearing people saying managers have been coming to them about break compliance and rates over the past weeks and I’m sitting here like “I take 20 minute breaks for my 15’s and haven’t heard a peep from any managers” now granted I have good rate. I think they are trying to fire all the “bad apples” and keep the people who are actually working.

[@ttmverified7712]

Added*: I want to add I recently was almost in the top 10% of productivity one week and I only worked 3 days that week and my rate was like 65-70%. So pickers at my location are waaaayyyy too relaxed

[@lindaschultz7900]

@@ttmverified7712 wow that's a high rate. Your fast!! I do notice the faster Pickers, stowers, are left alone. Keep up the great work. My coworker and I try to stick together. She is motivating me to go faster. As a result, the PA didn't give us VTO that day. There were over 100 employees that took . . or had to take VTO. A PA told me that. It was a ghost town on the stowing floors that day.

[@C11]

Same here, in stow at my FC, you can get really poor rates and still somehow be in the top 25%. I feel like no one is even getting close to rate anymore

[@ib5760]

They are firing blue badge Amazonions and hiring seasonal so they save money! I left Amazon as a blue badge and came back a month later and the pay went down .70 cent.

[@layslyfe]

Can’t you come back In 3 Months If you get fired for TOT.?!

[@lifewithti2078]

Rightttt?😳 I wanna know cause I got fired for tot but still plan on going back

[@layslyfe]

@@lifewithti2078 When you get fired.?!!

[@kathyfaulkes5142]

In my FC in Ontario Canada we still have VTO every shift! It's been busy.

[@kathyfaulkes5142]

Sorry I meant VET!

[@C11]

I was confused haha lmao

[@andyg4518]

Can you get fired for rate ? At my facility there are only about 10 pickers out of 100 that hit 350 an hour they never complain about rate

[@BlueThunderboltsiren]

I just finished my second week working at amazon. I'm actually a picker. Don't get me wrong, the job is easy, but the management and the time schedule are getting on my nerves though. Especially before and after my second 30 minute break! I literally do what I'm supposed to do, and I literally make double sure that I get my 30 minutes in and get back to work on time, but NOPE! I get reprimanded, just for working my butt off just trying to get my job done and do what I'm supposed to do. I'm also in the autistic spectrum, and it's pretty clear that they don't care about disabilities. I'm literally looking up other jobs to apply to just incase I end up having to walk out. I'm going to try to stick it out for maybe a few months, but if I need to walk out, then I will. I'm so grateful to have amazing co-workers who literally have my back though. Also, the bumps and pot holes are rediculous at my workplace, so I'm a bit worried for other peoples safety, including mine when people drive near them or over them.

[@benj1124]

My facility isn’t really that strict they just keep telling us about pre covid rate….. like ok cool

[@toyswithjonathan]

At meeting ant start up they have us say vto we use to say safety it's bad

[@antman5628]

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[@antman5628]

Stafford is fraudgers daddy

[@C11]

Wrong

[@K.114.]

Do you think since it's still so slow they won't hire for this summer anymore now? 😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😡😡😡

[@C11]

It depends on how the facility closest to you is doing honestly... If it were my facility though, even though it's extremely slow and overstaffed, I still really believe that they'll hire at some point during the summer. Unless it stays slow like this into the summer, which I really don't expect it to. Nice to see you comment again btw K, feel like its been a while! I hope you're doing well

[@Boricua92]

Not in my facility I'm so glad. But I'm switching to day shift weekend schedule. But they do always care about tot I saw somebody got in trouble just dont go more than the actual time that PA or manager say.

[@C11]

Hey Annie, just wanted to say thank you for being a long time supporter and subscriber to the channel! 4 months is amazing. Thank you so much for continuing to watch the content and always leaving feedback! You're awesome

[@recklessgamingyt3912]

If you’re stowing and you get stopped ik cuz I work with the AM’s we know what stations go Down from our computers due to the floor issue and we can change your time to something else

[@C11]

Apparently the AM's at my site don't have the same powers, they never know when anything is going wrong lol. I always have to write that stuff down myself for when I get asked about it later. Even when entire floors are shut down, they'll still ask about it a few days later and ask what I was doing during that time.

[@stephenfitch4779]

My facility is overing vet on sat and Sunday. I got good hrs. Massachusetts facilities

[@C11]

We've had occasional VET, but VTO as well. It's a bit of a mixed bag

[@jonstreets8745]

Facts they are trying

[@pandoraroy117]

Thank you

[@maybachtruck6008]

my manager told me they changed the name to idle time but it’s the same concept

[@payne02000]

TOT is 50 mins or longer Idle time is anything between scans

[@tomhocutt2013]

Are you looking to Leave Amazon?

[@C11]

I answer this question in today's video that just dropped :D

[@codywalker5097]

I have a different Amazon question, so I’m a Stower at TPA1 and I did a schedule change two weeks ago and my A-Z app calendar hasn’t updated yet. HR told me it would today original shift was Sunday-Wednesday changed it to Thursday to Sunday. They told me I’d be off these next 4 days as the schedule changes takes in except Thursday April 14th.

[@C11]

What's your question?

[@codywalker5097]

@@C11 I got it figured out but it was basically why the A-Z calendar on app wasn’t updating but it finally did the day of.

[@K.114.]

🙁🙁🙁🙁🙁😔😔😔😔😔

[@zaba9649]

I work at Amazon am I don’t even know what TOT is.

[@layslyfe]

Time Off Tasks.! Being off your Area/Station Too Long.!

[@marvinquiroz2822]

If you are taking care of business nothing to worry about. Lazy people worry.

[@C11]

I'd disagree just because there has been a lot of errors and flaws in Amazon's systems, especially when it comes to TOT.