Why American Farmers Are Dumping Milk

Across America, dairy farmers have dumped countless gallons of fresh, entirely usable milk, because there is no one to buy it. The shelter in place orders given by governments around the country in response to the coronavirus pandemic have shuttered big customers such as restaurants and schools and kept people at home. About 50 percent of the milk produced in the United States goes to restaurants and other food service operations, according to the National Milk Producers Federation.
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Why American Farmers Are Dumping Milk

[@acasccseea4434]

Italy responded to low milk prices by making cheese a few centuries ago

[@superandreanintendo]

There have already been in history a US response made to buy milk and produce cheese

[@Jeepster353]

@@superandreanintendo real cheese. Not the fake cheese in the us. Need a lot of milk for that.

[@yerpderp6800]

Do they have the proper equipment to make and store cheese? Only reason I can think of

[@plip_plop]

x b European cheeses tend to be more exotic though.

[@malcorub]

@@Jeepster353 Are you saying Nacho cheese is fake... LOL

[@joshuasir_prodijay4540]

While they're dumping milk, I'm over here paying $3-4+ a gallon still. So much wasted milk when prices are still so high.

[@spicybrown75]

Exactly. Why they wouldn't donate is beyond me. Farmers destroying vegetables is also beyond my comprehension. From the outside, it looks like these things are being orchestrated by corporations to force stop quarantine. This is the land of the free and wastage!

[@amyx231]

Processing. Pasteurizing isn’t free. And the workers are sick so less processing done.

[@Leo-zk9rd]

They dump milk to keep prices higher

[@spicybrown75]

@@Leo-zk9rd ok. Long live capitalism! 😏😏

[@yerpderp6800]

@@spicybrown75 because transportation also costs time and money, someone would need to pay them or else they're losing money. Having people come and pick it up is potentially risky, it would have to be organizations that hand out food to help avoid the headache that comes with liability. I don't see the conspiracy you're alluding to, it's basic business knowledge here.

[@shemeansfit3975]

People love to waste rather than donating, true american thing!

[@geromegeronimo8312]

thats kinda dumb because america has highest donation by country.

[@blinkshadown]

Sadly Donating will cost them more money.

[@shemeansfit3975]

@@geromegeronimo8312 don't mix up things, they could have given milk for the cheapest rate to poor people as America has 11.8% poverty rate.

[@angelal5922]

Federal regulations require that the milk be processed before its donated to food banks, but it costs money to do that and farmers just don't have the capital. They also don't have the means to transport all of the milk.

[@felixf4378]

If they donate it they will lose even more money and go out of business. They are dumping the milk to save money. As stupid as it sounds that's the best thing that can be done to stay afloat.

[@Meusberg]

Why not donate? This is such an unnecessary waste that makes no sense.

[@Mountain413]

It does make sense. It costs money to donate. Farms are a business.

[@brittnyhawk8633]

Why don't you give your income away for free. O you gotta pay to transport that money to others as well. So it cost you to give your earnings away. Your bearly holding your own home together on what little money you did have.

[@mohammedfowzi]

@@brittnyhawk8633 actually in our country we do give a portion of our money every year and when ever we can to the poor and we pay for the transport too. the place we live in is one of the most poorest country of the world.

[@tonycheezal5650]

This is not a charity centre, everything does for money They have thier choices, not yours

[@Kev_the_panda]

Ryan Brown it is not illegal because the government is paying bailouts to farmers to dump Mike and if the do donate them they have to get it pasteurized

[@mohsinayubi6707]

There is a disconnect between supply and demand of milk. On one hand, milk is restricted to one bottle/pack per customer in supermarkets and on the other hand there is no demand and people are throwing it away.

[@gurr003]

array s right? Why farmers dont go this way?

[@WadeoMoxley4789]

You like jon moxley

[@chloedegurechaff1941]

@array s they can, but the us government currently already has 1.8 billion pounds of cheese. do we really need more? theres only so much cheese you can keep in storage.

[@martintince]

​@@gurr003 Laziness

[@aperson2730]

Is milk sale being rationed where you live? Where are you my friend?

[@samleen]

Everybody gangsta 'till the government starts making cheese

[@martingo2680]

Government cheese

[@zuniten]

that's the thing... rather than wasting the milk just turn it into cheese

[@christopherlastname7638]

Government cheese was awesome!

[@vanlao6367]

ready for that government cheese again ?

[@diverse_insightt.o6499]

Heard about it never had it #Canada

[@jacksparrow460]

Why not turn it into cheese, instead dumping it. That’s a lot of waste.

[@caraleege9530]

Jack Forshaw because the milk industry is already an over worked system. Most of the plants before this were already taking less and less milk. Most of the plants around where I live (Wisconsin) can barely keep up with the regular intake they are getting anyways. The farmers all have contracts with the plants they bring the milk too as well, and they are being told to dump milk by the plant. If they tried to go against that they risk losing there contract.

[@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep]

Or even butter.

[@michiganfarmer4215]

@Jack Forshaw Because the damn milk plants are overloaded with too much to process at once!!

[@radranks6281]

Ya you think a farmer can just wake feeling like starting a cheese company

[@bartfoster1311]

With what equipment?

[@sirbigpappy]

You Can save yourself 15 minutes and realize that theyre essentially being paid to dump it.

[@underdogtv2855]

They are NOT being paid to dump it !They are losing money by storing it !

[@underdogtv2855]

Blame the Democrats for high taxes on everything !

[@sirbigpappy]

@@underdogtv2855 but they're being bailed out aka paid to dump it

[@underdogtv2855]

@@sirbigpappy Either way they can't hold on to it because going to spoil anyways.You don't understand because you are not a farmer.

[@matthewmorales114]

Truth. They can make powdered milk from cow milk. Most people dont know about powdered milk, but Asian countries love buying powdered milk.

[@nemesiszz]

not just milk in few parts in the world farmers are even dumping Vegetables!

[@olidolly7006]

Немезида is that a bad thing?

[@litbro8180]

OliDolly Yes.

[@christianj252]

They could just give the veggies to me. I LOVE VEGGIES! Was basically a vegetarian until I turned 9/10.

[@alfiand9269]

@@olidolly7006 its good for capitalism but bad for humanity dan nature

[@xx2345000]

@@alfiand9269 Grow up, isn't eating vegetables killing plants soy child?

[@lexluthor4156]

When the price went up, your wallet pays for it. When the price goes down, your tax dollars pays for it.

[@MarkWTK]

@Evil Component i'm from malaysia, and i would have voted for Bernie Sanders in a heartbeat. i don't know why you guys didn't vote for him :'(

[@yak55x]

Farmers worked out and DEMAND this socialism for themselves and then vote for republicans - the anti-socialists.

[@lexluthor4156]

​@@yak55x XD true. It's not socialism they had in mind but good old fashion arm twitching, oyster swallowing to cake carving. These PR effort through medias are merely courtesy calls and "afterwards snuggles".

[@lexluthor4156]

​@Evil Component That's why somehow the mixing of capitalism, "free speech", and party base electoral system we currently have gives me doubts when most people(voters) only spend less than 10-30 mins per day on political news. Especially in today's environment when most media platform have some level of targeted content pushing tailors to viewers determined by algorithms. The other side often being overrun by this system if they had a practical chance to be heard at all. For days, months, and some people's entire working adult life. They will be surrounded by a circle of "truth" and "opinions" that are carefully structured to commendates each other.(if not for "you know what", I wouldn't times to post this kinds of long comments too XD ) Politics had become a battle of being heard instead of reasons and responsibilities, and most politicians have no choice but to choose and enforce their own party's circles if they want to have a chance to be "elected" at all. Bernie's problem is to overestimate the power of reasoning in the supposedly "freer" social media era when the truth is the "targeted content pushing" and "free for all"(news topics, ads and hired posting) social media platforms are mainly not working in his favour but only to reinforcing the power of establishments and capitals(That's also one of the main reason we've often heard terms like "we are more and more divided" as it's makes harder for both parties to grant new grounds and they retreat to what they "already owned").. To be honest with you, I'm surprised that Bernie had even come this far.The "difficulties" he had encountered only shows(to no one's surprise)that the Democratic establishment are no better than their counterparts in terms of operate-- I think it's pretty clear the choice of Biden is not the to beat trump and "end the freak show" but to supposedly "avoid alienating some of their base".

[@larryhofer8853]

can't say anything dairy is a good thing here in Canada

[@mickmccrory8534]

If I was a farmer in this situation, I would consider building a small cheese factory.

[@DBT1007]

No buyer = no money = no new plants. Welp.. If you make the cheese in small number, maybe the maintenance cost is low or even free

[@youngillinoisan4270]

Farmers don’t have the money to do that, even with large farms, and really on farms of any kind, profit margins are extremely small or even negative because of high equipment costs and government regulations and taxes, most farmers have second jobs just to keep the farms running.

[@gisdaman]

You'll need the equipment, labour, and certifications to maufacture food safely.

[@isaacschmitz3028]

Dairy farmers are actually starting to make their own cheese factories all across the country. It’s a great investment

[@vengefulspirit99]

It's extremely capital intensive to run farms already. You're adding even more capital that farmers have to raise somehow.

[@AB-rv5qq]

such a dumb waste, while so many go hungry.

[@JamJim]

03:08 about 35% who can be feed 03:08

[@zieo8218]

Ayy don't cry over spilled milk

[@zero8246]

They had to because you know that milk can expire right

[@vengefulspirit99]

Who's going to pay for it to get pressurized and transported?

[@garykarr1421]

Start voting out the tyrants. If their worth is more than a million dollars, don't vote for them

[@Malik_Maverick]

Wait. Why are we dumping it? If we’re going to dispose of it anyway, why not donate some to food shelters and poor countries or make dairy products from it?

[@Dat376]

Teez Well cost money to process for consumption and packaging.

[@Dat376]

Teez Well and if you want to donate to poor countries. You also need to figure out transporting it. Refrigeration.

[@redcrown0694]

Lawsuits from food poisoning to FDA sanitary laws. Lists goes on....

[@DesiredHeadshot]

people think that the gov can't fund that because the big companies got 14 trillion. amazing how some people think.

[@caraleege9530]

Because it’s literal raw milk that has to be treated. Who is going to pay for that?

[@xxsknnylgndx1357]

Only in the “best and richest country” do we dump out plenty of good food and beverages while people are going hungry and starving to death

[@kevinb3410]

Exactly what I was thinking. Can't government buy it and donate it??

[@samriley6541]

kevin singkit so the government who is busy giving 3 trillion dollars to keep businesses open, should pay for something that wont make it back? The point of giving the money is because the governments want them to stay open so that they can keep getting taxes from them. They don’t get anything, and the way the media is, they won’t even cover something the trump presidency does.

[@ejohnson3131]

kevin singkit - The government is buying it. Taxpayers are buying it, that's why they're dumping it. The dairy industry already got their share of the stimulus package.

[@Pelley4560]

@@kevinb3410 they do,. Government Cheese

[@jebbus8387]

Well even more people will go hungry if all the small businesses shut down

[@chrisbaker7970]

am i the only one that is totally fine with tanking the dairy industry? have you searched into the mere surface of what happens at dairy farms? personally, we could live without it.

[@calvinteh3297]

How about letting calves drink the milk like they're supposed to?

[@andrewb1993]

Mom: stop crying no one does over spilled milk America: hold my milk bih

[@brentgreeff1115]

Looks like its all gone teats up.

[@IAmLeutrimTopalli]

First let’s steal the milk from the cows and then dump it

[@V1Pin]

Shut up hippie

[@maymay5600]

remember cows don't produce milk naturally

[@someguy2135]

@@maymay5600 Juaquin Phoenix was right.

[@asif7127]

@@maymay5600 udder get problem

[@youngillinoisan4270]

Cows like being milked, and they need to be milked too.

[@mohammedfowzi]

Give milk to the poor help others that are dying of hunger, humanity have a chance of making thing right but what they do OW let's dump all our food so price don't get cheap

[@tenzackyogi1742]

Idiot.. its capitalism.. giving free milk is bad for economy.

[@matth23e2]

Problem is it costs money to process, transport, etc. milk. If theres someone willing to take it and do all that I bet the farmers would give it to them, but itd cost someone money.

[@mohammedfowzi]

@@matth23e2 We live in a world of 8 billion people and pretty sure that 0.1 % will help

[@mohammedfowzi]

@@tenzackyogi1742 Okey einstein, tell us how to solve this problem?

[@nicholaslarsen6739]

I just posted my comment which is very similar to yours didn't see it your comment but thank you so much that makes so much sense

[@nathanchang7713]

They could have given it for free, cows get killed and suffers for these milk. This is really disrespectful to them and a waste of otherwise expensive milk

[@noahbrown5293]

Nathan Chang you have to Pasteurize milk. It’s an expensive process

[@mohammadhafizabdulrahim7050]

in my country, Malaysia we face similar problem where farmers dumped tonnes of vegetable because nobody is buying them since wet markets are close nationwide. its not like they don't want to give it away for free. there is this issue with logistics. Farms are located very remotely. therefore transporting vegetables or milk in this case even to be given away also costs money. money they don't have. if people are willing to drive for miles to get the vegetables & milk, i'm pretty sure the farmers will sell them very cheaply or give them for free. So the question is , are we willing to drive there?

[@trollboy7670]

@@mohammadhafizabdulrahim7050 exactly bro.. At least somehow can benefit us all. But note we might not get it tomorrow and all can die due to hunger

[@zieo8218]

Ayy don't cry over spilled milk

[@maman89]

Ah yes. The sight of wasting food is pretty offensive in Asian households.

[@zhengbq]

For the clueless people that are asking "why not just donate the excess milk to food banks?", the answer is: the storage and transportation of milk is expensive because milk is "extremely perishable". The milk farmers produce raw milk, which is processed by food company, then sold to customers. The milk farmers themselves do not have the ability or the necessary resource to process the raw milk. So when there is no demand, the milk farmers will have no choice but to dump the milk, because they can't donate the raw milk even if they wanted to. If there is any food banks out there that can contact the milk farmers and take away their excess milk, the milk farmers will gladly let them take the milk away.

[@aamirsuhail7271]

zhengbq Can you please explain to me then why are brewers dumping beer? That surely isn’t “extremely perishable”.

[@edwinlucianofrias1643]

Aamir Suhail beer is perishable.

[@preoximerias7366]

Not Your Average Trucker Because milk in general, whether from cows, people, or plants, are useful because of its nutritional value.

[@w.s1097]

Ok so many farmers can process it and many companies would process it to long life milk for free cause their all doing more to help right now

[@zhengbq]

@@aamirsuhail7271 First of all, saying that "brewers dumping beer" is very misleading. The correct way of saying this is "some craft beer brewers are dumping beer". For the record, large beer brands like Budweiser are not dumping beer. These companies have their own logistics channel to handle the shift in demand. Also, their products can be purchased at almost any supermarket which stays open in all the states. The brewers that are actually dumping beer that the ones that produce craft beer. They typically brew a few batches per year, currently they are mostly on their 2nd batch of 2020. What they do is they make the beer and send it to a liquor distributor company, who then distributes the beer to local bars and restaurants. However, with the forced closure of bars and restaurants, the demand for craft beer is 0. Without the demand, the liquor distribution company can not take the beer. The craft beer brewers also don't have the inventory space to store all the beers. On top of all this, craft beer actually will age past their peak freshness and taste, then become stale. So the brewers are forced to dump this batch of beer and just go on to brew the next batch which will come out a few month down the road.

[@tenthousandsubsandnovideos3614]

2020 was supposed to be a better years for A LOT of people

[@admindadipancar5494]

MADA

[@zafariqbal-js7tn]

2020; hold my milk 🥛

[@niggasaurusrex3952]

@Aramis3737 huh?

[@kathiaangel448]

this just makes me sad for the cows

[@RoseTorn411]

Right, being exploited like that for their milk that we don't need.

[@kenney2pimpin10]

Rose Torn well technically they have to be milked or they’ll get too much

[@berninho]

really hard to have empathy for a industrie thats cruel af hopefully they go down, this animal cruelty has to end maybe they start to think now maybe give the cows a break, when the demand is not given but no, the animal now has to suffer and the milk gets thrown away... good job farmers :)

[@calebmanuel17]

Vanesa right this guy doesn’t understand

[@ikramulhaq7968]

Be ready for high prices of dairy products

[@caraleege9530]

Ikram ul Haq as it should. Dairy farmers are getting hosed

[@kennymichaelalanya7134]

A gallon of milk is now 6 bucks to 8 bucks....organic of course 🙄 I live in san Francisco California

[@superandreanintendo]

How they are getting hosed? Explain?

[@admindadipancar5494]

still... nobody buys it

[@yesyup9111]

Your body is better off without it anyway

[@Vixter4]

Trivia Night: Why did farmers dump so much milk in 2020? Nobody: CNBC: WELL IN THE NEOLITHIC ERA...

[@zaxarispetixos8728]

BACK IN MY DAY

[@9mmwaffle.]

"We CaNt JuSt SwItCh ThE fAcToRy To NeW eQuIpMeNt" Drive the milk to a different factory?

[@tismchewy4681]

I don't think you understand the farming industry or dairy farmers. They have bills to pay, they can't be adding so many more expenses to get their milk places or produce their own products to consumers because they don't have a high amount of cash on hand anyway. Farmers generally don't have a lot of cash on hand, they use what they need and invest all of that money back into their farms. Their real money and wealth are their assets (the land, tractors, livestock, combines, buildings, and such. These aren't very liquid assets). They don't have this extra money to get the new equipment or pay for their milk to be shipped to other factories twice, possibly three times a day just to get a very small profit. Because they will need to pay another company to travel further, or hire another person themselves, buy a semi, and a trailer to get to these factories along with the diesel and other costs associated with that. It just isn't possible, they are struggling, especially smaller dairy farmers. Not meant to be rude, but if you aren't familiar with the industry you often don't realize everything that is apart of it.

[@user-uq3um5nq7d]

@@tismchewy4681 Haha, you've been copy pasting your own comments to these brainlets Aren't you tired of them?

[@Someone-cr8cj]

the milk industry and the farmers have generally received more subsidies than your average crony. Once the gov't money starts to run out they cry again for support. this is not stable. this will implode at some point. These are just symptoms of reliance on government funds.

[@youngillinoisan4270]

High Taxes, stupid regulations, and artificially low prices are a big contributor to the problem.

[@1ofEve]

@@youngillinoisan4270 there's also a global pandemic

[@user-cw2py6wh8l]

Turn the milk into powder.

[@sford2044]

Or cheese.

[@abd4620]

Watching valuable hunger ending food wasted like that makes me furious.. Indeed dry it up to powder form and export it... There's demand in a the place where you take all your natural resources, aka africa.

[@abd4620]

@PRO HEN i wonder what's the process of that is like

[@abd4620]

@D23 W76 God can literally do anything he wishes, but what's that got to do with this? :p

[@pieman141]

What a backwards system we have today. The government should be purchasing the milk. Bring back government cheese and give it to those who need it.

[@jascrandom9855]

And help the poor?! That's Communism!

[@Hans.Dewitt]

@@jascrandom9855 in real communism they will just shoot the poor lmao

[@asadb1990]

its sad in north america people only like to help by sending prayers. but refuse to look out for their neighbors in anything beyond that.

[@yourcrazybear]

No. They should decrease the prices which would lead to an increase of milk consumption. That is far better than just dumping it.

[@asadb1990]

@Rage Quit this pandemic has shown no ones cares about anyone but themselves. compare this to the east. if someone dies in your family, you get a long paid time off to grieve and make arrangements. and most banks will put a stop of payments and landlords will forego payments for a certain time. but no break in canada, usa, etc.

[@susanhigh3633]

It's the ultimate heartbreak when a dairy farmer has to dump milk.

[@stanthemafia]

I’m sure there were markets internationally that would have taken it....

[@youngillinoisan4270]

L Baba A yea, but there is no way to get it to them.

[@johnjones-yt8rt]

@chinesebassman All it takes is one lawsuit from someone getting sick from unpasteurized milk and it ruins the entire industry.

[@VixGuyOfficial]

Plot twist -- They dumped the milk to store those over supplied crude oil...

[@sceaserjulius9476]

Now that...huh

[@skywalkerhunterarchive]

...but then they processed the oil as milk by accident, creating new pandemic COMILK-20 in 2021

[@amyx231]

mango puppet channel probably in the short term. Liquid storage is liquid storage.

[@jamesb2148]

AmyX lol no. You don’t store toxic goods where you store food.

[@jeffjones3035]

@@jamesb2148 "used" to store food.

[@bishop2985]

Everyone is a big shot until the ceo of milk start talkin

[@KD-mm3li]

A lot of people are finding out their diets can do without dairy products as much as their recommended. almost 70 % of americans have some sort of lactose intolerance.

[@rgurung351]

Forget about digesting, I can’t stand the smell of milk😨

[@madhoshyagnik3679]

You're kidding right?

[@RoseTorn411]

Same i hated it but forced to drink it because we are told we NEED to drink milk. Knowing what I know now we definitely do not need this. Leave it for the cows

[@ernst91]

Weak.

[@thephilosopher5799]

The milk i buy doesn’t really have a smell.

[@realbangbang]

So you're saying the dairy industry is dumping the milk in order to keep the supply in balance with the demand instead of selling it for cheese production at a lower price as part of a coordinated strategy by the associations... 🤔

[@ChrisGilliamOffGrid]

Less demand for cheese too.

[@aleebinmaden]

Fernando.... exactly.. 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@ifukill7538]

The demand isn't there

[@hiltibosch5487]

So then lower the price

[@VinegarPotato]

The cheese producers would have more they would have to process, and I think that the transport costs too much no matter how much the milk is cheapened.

[@Tom-xy9gb]

milk is one of most sold products in a grocery store💀

[@donnywilliams4376]

Other solutions: - high pasteurised milk with long shelf life like in Europe. - make cheese - make ice cream - make condensed milk - make powdered milk

[@youngillinoisan4270]

Donny Williams what you don’t understand is the farmers can’t afford to do that, they don’t have the money available to process it like that.

[@Noeman2009]

Americans only drink fresh milk. Only in Europe and Asia pasteurized milk is very popular.

[@magnificentsven1694]

@@Noeman2009 Actually a lot of milk in the US is UHT, they just put it in the refrigerated goods section because Americans didn't buy milk stored at room temperature

[@tismchewy4681]

I don't think you understand the farming industry or dairy farmers. They have bills to pay, they can't be adding so many more expenses to get their milk places or produce their own products to consumers because they don't have a high amount of cash on hand anyway. Farmers generally don't have a lot of cash on hand, they use what they need and invest all of that money back into their farms. Their real money and wealth are their assets (the land, tractors, livestock, combines, buildings, and such. These aren't very liquid assets). They don't have this extra money to get the new equipment or pay for their milk to be shipped to other factories twice, possibly three times a day just to get a very small profit. Because they will need to pay another company to travel further, or hire another person themselves, buy a semi, and a trailer to get to these factories along with the diesel and other costs associated with that. It just isn't possible, they are struggling, especially smaller dairy farmers, they can't bottle it themselves. Not meant to be rude, but if you aren't familiar with the industry you often don't realize everything that is apart of it. If you really want milk, call up one of your local dairies, they will give you gallons upon gallons of milk if you just ask for it, they'll give it to you for pennies on the dollar, it just won't be processed.

[@mamaraah2578]

UHT milk is very popular in France, in fact it’s hard to find fresh milk in French supermarkets, everything is uht

[@dwaynemondragon6421]

Yes let’s throw away milk instead of giving it to those that can’t buy any during this crisis

[@youngillinoisan4270]

It’s not that simple

[@gisdaman]

Cheaper to throw it away, than to process, package, store and transport.

[@MajinMist603]

@@gisdaman People can come to them while they can give milk away , bring your own jugs and they can fill it for you lol .

[@doradestroy]

You clearly do not understand how this works.

[@gisdaman]

@@MajinMist603 Things to consider: Refrigeration, storage, costs in time, etc. Most farms are located in remote areas, where people are unlikely to travel through, or willing to drive to. There's not enough people, to warrant the effort and return on investment of waiting to serve people the excess milk. Nobody's going to drive tens or hundreds of miles, for a few gallons of milk, and only a few have the means to store large quantities of it. Farmers got other tasks to do on their fields and equipment too, and simply don't have the time to wait for people to turn up with an empty jug.

[@VastKnowledge2023]

Make it cheese, lasts longer. Instead of dumping.

[@axel3895]

Who is gonna buy that cheese

[@caleb8422]

Return of government cheese?

[@anona1443]

Workers who make cheese are stuck in home

[@Roof_Pizza]

Doubt the capacity is there. They just can't switch on a dime.

[@ScrapKing73]

@@Roof_Pizza That and the cheese alternatives category has started growing too, just as the milk alternatives category did before it.

[@LastKing-pi8pt]

And i couldn't find a gallon of milk in my local Walmart. Wtf

[@prithviraj4203]

My heart dropped when saw dumping milk 😢 I have studied animal husbandry and work on livestock products.. hope the industry gets back on its track soon

[@jaideepsingh3143]

Time is over for this cruel industry

[@zishere48]

I think the way the animals are treated here is pretty gross.

[@RobertLeBlancPhoto]

Being hungry many times in my life, and knowing that there's so many hungry children all over America, it breaks my heart to see food go to waste.

[@Ryan-wu1oi]

The majority of 3rd world nations have the best fertile land in the world. Central Africa South America they can learn to grow food

[@dennisp8520]

@@Ryan-wu1oi growing food is only half the battle, getting it to the places that need it is the more difficult part. Most poor countries don't have the infrastructure in place to handle the ever increasing strains that modern day trade puts on the supply chain.

[@user-pc7ef5sb6x]

@@dennisp8520 I don't understand why the 3rd can't grow their own food. Oh I know, because they killed the farmers just like their did in South Africa and Zimbabwe. Now they're depended on UN aid, really never learning how to build sustainable agriculture.

[@jo-vf8jx]

ℛɛᴛʀᴏ ℛɛᴅ some of them did grow and sell their own food in their own countries, but they were out priced by cheaper competitors from other countries forcing them to go out of business since they couldn’t compete.

[@MichelleDespres]

Here’s an idea. Allow the calves to live. They like milk too.

[@V1Pin]

How about you stay in your cave and hug your tree hippie.

[@bartfoster1311]

@The Salon Of Forbidden Thought they become beef when the meat plants get reopened..

[@nicoangelobado9913]

Fair point. Allow them to fatten up, be processed in abattoir, and supply the demand for equitable food for EVERYBODY who's hungry.

[@Dover939]

Cows make several times more milk than calves need or could possibly ingest.

[@BrakerOfStones]

I’d celebrate if this industry failed

[@d3m1g0d4]

So why don't they give it out for free, atleast people will be drinking it rather than pouring it away. On the other hand vegan people will be happy about it😒

[@Sesshomaru474]

They are being forced by the government(s) to dump it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5CzcqqAntZ9oKc

[@carsstuff9914]

It takes money to process, package and distribute the milk. Probably it makes more sense for them to dump the unprocessed milk straight up.

[@janejan9728]

Because unless you plan to fill up your tank and drive out into rural America and bring your own jug, somebody has to pay to pack it and transport it. There is no such thing as "free".

[@jakem3617]

I’m a dairy farmer . Milk need to be pasteurized at a plant before it’s sold plain and simple . If the plant has no demand for milk they won’t pick it up . The cows need to be milked and can’t just be turned off. There will be a lot more milk going to calves tho Instead of milk replacer . But simply the answer is one can’t just sell or give away unpasteurized milk out of the bulk tank

[@tismchewy4681]

I don't think you understand the farming industry or dairy farmers. They have bills to pay, they can't be adding so many more expenses to get their milk places or produce their own products to consumers because they don't have a high amount of cash on hand anyway. Farmers generally don't have a lot of cash on hand, they use what they need and invest all of that money back into their farms. Their real money and wealth are their assets (the land, tractors, livestock, combines, buildings, and such. These aren't very liquid assets). They don't have this extra money to get the new equipment or pay for their milk to be shipped to other factories twice, possibly three times a day just to get a very small profit. Because they will need to pay another company to travel further, or hire another person themselves, buy a semi, and a trailer to get to these factories along with the diesel and other costs associated with that. It just isn't possible, they are struggling, especially smaller dairy farmers, they can't bottle it themselves. Not meant to be rude, but if you aren't familiar with the industry you often don't realize everything that is apart of it. If you really want milk, call up one of your local dairies, they will give you gallons upon gallons of milk if you just ask for it, they'll give it to you for pennies on the dollar, it just won't be processed.

[@palmshoot]

From the Wikipedia "Milkman" article: "In 2005, about 0.4% of consumers in the United States had their milk delivered, and a handful of newer companies had sprung up to offer the service. Some U.S. dairies have been delivering milk for about 100 years, with interest continuing to increase in the 2010s as part of the local food movement. During the 2020 coronavirus outbreak, some remaining milkmen saw demand increase suddenly (similar to other grocery delivery services) due to concerns about the infection risk involved with shopping in stores." Source - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milkman#Around_the_world

[@rajatanshu]

Deeply disturbed by seeing milk being dumped like this. It's a cultural shock. Give it to somebody, if u cannot Sell it. Great Sin to do this to milk.

[@axel3895]

It costs to distribute and you cant do that every day either

[@0ut1and3r]

they cant. theres such a disconnect between people and farmers

[@mohsinayubi6707]

Just go to a public place, set a table and give milk away to whoever wants it.

[@yourcrazybear]

Just decrease the price of the milk.

[@Roof_Pizza]

I hope they stop pumping the poor cows with hormones.

[@dawnrichardson8230]

The dairy industry might be forced into change and honestly that might be a good thing...... Many people aren’t even drinking cow milk anymore

[@thelonelyrogue3727]

The government should have focused more of that aid into the purchase and use of that milk than into direct, free aid.

[@snowcatxx87]

Video answered in the first 30 seconds. I don’t want to know how you stretched that for the next 15 minutes 😂 😂

[@LucianLusilver]

Damn, maybe donate that stuff, heck could they get like a tax write-off or something?

[@dennisp8520]

The smarter option would be turning it into cheese and other products with long shelf lives

[@jorgeavelar98]

It costs them far more to donate it than to just dump it, unfortunately.

[@ScrapKing73]

@@dennisp8520 The tricky part is who will make it into cheese? What kind of demand for that is there? Especially as cheese alternatives grow in popularity. And while cheese does have a longer shelf life, it still requires refrigeration and storage until you can find a buyer.

[@gmarefan]

The hard part is the logistics.

[@yourcrazybear]

It would be better to sell it cheaper than outright dumping it.

[@public.public]

So subsidised to throw basic foods away. It should be a criminal offence to throw such food away.

[@inb3656]

Dumping milk is not only a waste but is also horrible for the environment!

[@davinkie3510]

Looks like its time for government cheese

[@ASMRGRATITUDE]

Or the bored school children with help from their parents can make cheese. It's super easy.

[@metropcs8301]

Dump the milk instead of giving it away to the poor people

[@chadwillett619]

It's not exactly gonna increase sales if they start giving it away now is it? Duh!

[@itsthatonekid6188]

Greed makes the green

[@gabbar51ngh]

You are assuming transporting this milk to poor people won't cost any money so they just dump it since it's easier.

[@milantarika7219]

The govt should help these farmers transport their milk to poor people

[@gabbar51ngh]

@@milantarika7219 might as well just reopen the business and subsidize it if they are aiming for that.

[@Relax4now]

“No one buys milk” I go to every grocery store. WDYM THEY DUMPING MILK, I NEED SOME MILKKKK.

[@pepticrose]

Honestly amazing how well CNBC produces KZbin content. Whoever made that top level decision knows whats up.

[@loturzelrestaurant]

The Waste is Extreme. Did you know its 'literally objective fact' that enough Food exists so Starvation is literally artifical and can be ENDED? "Is Capitalism Actually Efficient?" by 'Second Thought' shows this well. Great Channel. No wonder he and 'Some More News' are known to be Voices of the Worker-Class and Guys who dont shy away from calling out sytemic Issues.

[@mr.e1220]

I believe we are on our way to a food shortage and crisis

[@ifukill7538]

Countries are not exporting their food. Where does rice come from.😱

[@TheLouisianan]

@@ifukill7538 Rice is made in the US. Arkansas makes so much of it that's it's considered a duck hunting capital of the world. Look up some facts before you make random assumptions.

[@candycanes109]

Soo scary

[@Rich_Mond007]

I guess America's businesses "Too big too fail should be too big not to fail"

[@aviefern]

Any waste of food is so sad. I would pay more taxes for this food to be delivered to poor / homeless people. We need to rethink our priorities as a nation.

[@thephilosopher5799]

Wont that cause more poor people if we have to pay higher taxes. We should just not overestimate how much cows or foods we need so we don’t have to willing to destroy food.

[@aviefern]

@@thephilosopher5799 taxes don't cause poverty. Taxes pay for goods & services that improve society and stimulate the economy. Government spending creates a multiplier effect on the economy.

[@kaid7721]

Maybe because humans are not baby calves, waking up to fake marketing

[@Starry_Night_Sky7455]

All that public relations illusion crap that dumb people follow. Good grief.

[@FOWBOWZ]

He nails the narration voice so well, perfect.

[@Jdalio5]

The human body needs water...not another mammals milk designed for the babies,,,weird

[@Jdalio5]

@@jasonrahimzadeh5333 WHAT BOI? You a dairy farmer profiting of this scam of selling milk that started during ww2? (When farmers were going broke and need another revenue stream)

[@lilyydotdev]

none of my friends in continental europe buy American milk, neither did I when I lived there, it tastes like it's unhealthy and weird.

[@TAFKASYFY]

When I traveled out the country I couldn’t stand non-pasteurized milk; I have been conditioned

[@SoManyRandomRamblings]

Any government worth its salt would be covering the cost to get the milk and other "extra" produce to food banks.

[@Yeon8888]

Why don’t they just sell cheap! For many people milk is a luxury!

[@2maywjeat]

Monopolies

[@nicoangelobado9913]

Even in Europe, farmers can no longer maintain the upkeep cost of running their farm. I believe some are even just surviving on some government subsidies. It is a hard business due to change in trend.

[@Omenslol]

Unfortunately, you're forgetting the costs of the cow maintenance, storage, preparation, safety costs, shipping, paying grocery stores. All things considered, milk is not that expensive.

[@rohitghali]

They already sell it for cheap. Just buy directly from a farmer. They sell cheap to dealers, but dealers profit from what you're paying. For the farmers, if it goes less than a particular price, it doesn't matter if they sell it or dump it.

[@vengefulspirit99]

They already sell at thin margins. Any less and they'll be losing money. There are many fixed costs. Look at when oil when negative. Why do you think that is? It's not like people were paying you to take gas at the pump. It was due to no storage and no demand means that the price tanked. Then the cost of extraction and processing in the USA is extremely high since it's mostly fracking. The world's not as simple as you think. If it was that simple, there'd be no problems in the world.

[@Palestineexists]

“These farmers have bills” all while dumping milk 🤔Could’ve made it into cheese, unless I’m missing something.

[@ladymidnight4282]

It takes a lot of money to transport and turn all of it into cheese as well as finding the refrigeration to put all that cheese in till they could find the demand. It's cheap to just dump everything out I guess.

[@storyls]

Implying they have the huge pots and facilities to make and store cheese

[@ozzy2753]

If your a milk producer, your only equipment is to extract milk. You don’t extract it and then a bunch of other things. So the only thing they can do it extract it and deliver it to another company to pasteurize it and process it

[@ChrisGilliamOffGrid]

@HISmercies nbounties Ok. You come package it and ship it.

[@LittleRainGames]

@Neil Peters they could lower the price and more people would buy. Better than it going to waste, but they are greedy and want price to stay the same.

[@nancy-xm2ig]

This stuff happened during the great depression and it was uncomprhensible then and it still is now.

[@faizalbi4495]

Could have fed the milk to baby cows. At the current moment, most calves are given milk substitutes instead of milk from their mom's

[@autobez3132]

Can’t believe we are wasting food send this to the need

[@autobez3132]

Good point but that is sad

[@difflam74]

Great idea, they could have sold the milk at cheaper rate , but to maintain the inflated price m they would rather destroy the milk than make it a standard for cheap milk Just like oil.

[@tima9790]

It's such a cruel industry. To then go and waste the end product is just depressing.

[@Vidchemy]

They could put out a call to charity organizations to come haul it off. Also, why can't the farmers set up contracts with supermarkets to sell it or with cheesemakers or powdered milk factories to make more of their respective products?

[@Moon___man]

Pouring milk down the drain to inflate the price instead of working out a way to help people and yourself. Real solutions are too hard so we just stick to what we know best

[@phonetrntrn3984]

They could have supplied to milk powder factory, powder easily lasts for 3 months.

[@user-uq3um5nq7d]

Jesus, why don't the people in the comment realize that it takes money to process the milk, packaging the milk, and then delivering the milk? It's very costly you know, unless someone pays for the processing, they won't be able to give it out for "free", oh yeah, the expiry date is a thing too "What about making cheese?" That would definitely take a lot of money to buy the machine to make the milk into a cheese, and guess what? They need storage too, you can't just put it on the floor and stack em up, no no, that would be unhygienic and will cause health issues, after all of that, packaging and delivering is also necessary, it costs more money

[@frantisekzverina473]

Government coud pay for it instead of giving away cash

[@wonhoscake1214]

František Zvěřina bruh

[@wonhoscake1214]

František Zvěřina are you being serious

[@topcomment3816]

Unless you are willing to pay for the distribution costs, then all you people need to stop complaining! I am continually amazed at how many people lack a basic understanding of economics.

[@Ranveer_sangha03]

Exactly lolz

[@mameshiba691]

When they dumping the fresh milk. My local Safeway shelf with empty milk.

[@fightsports66]

There is no shortage of supermarket milk. Your shelves are empty because the media did too good of a job scaring everybody and people raided the supermarkets. That is just temporary, the producers who have contracts with supermarkets just need a little time to ship more milk to the stores. The dairy farmers who had contracts to supply restaurants are the ones who are dumping.

[@Sesshomaru474]

@@fightsports66 Nope, they are dumping it because the government is telling them to. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5CzcqqAntZ9oKc

[@MajinMist603]

@melanated melanated Then most our stuff is now contaminated not to mention they just said it was f r e s h .

[@ejohnson3131]

That's tax payers' milk they're dumping. You and I already paid for that milk. Part of the stimulus package went to aid the dairy industry.

[@frantisekzverina473]

Dump it on the ground still get paid. Farming seems quite lucrative.

[@patrickking3896]

Did we forget the massive dairy farm aide programs for many years? Supply and demand.

[@1N73RC3P7OR]

lmao at all those economists in the comments. "Just clap your hands and your milk factory turns into a cheese factory, bro." Or advising to "donate the milk", to make the milk price go even lower and hurt every producer out there even more, while suffering even heavier losses yourself. Whenever you hear someone giving you such advice, then know that that person has never produced a single thing in his life.

[@Josh-kd9pw]

First off, people are just trying to offer the best insight they have. Second, donating the milk and getting a write off is perfectly sound. Third the donations, may impact demand just a tad, but the prices will remain the same due to, the dairy industry being price controlled.

[@ganeshgaikwad6022]

Can they donate this milk to africa

[@brendanro]

YES thank you. I keep seeing stupid comments from people that know nothing. You can’t just donate all of it for free and get a “write off”

[@1N73RC3P7OR]

@@ganeshgaikwad6022 No, America alone in the last 40 years has donated to Africa the equivalent of 11 Marshall Plans and they still have nothing to show for it. Let the africans fend for themselves, that's the only way they will ever learn.

[@shubhendubhuta7178]

Why can't they make products like milk powder or cheese etc .. we at India are working hard in this crisis to feed Everyone. Am ready to import all that you can convert and ship to India.

[@el_blaxicano2]

@13:30 the United States Département of Agriculture pledged $19 Billion of aid for agriculture, $16 Billion of direct aid to farmers, and $100 Million of dairy purchases a month. If you got that lying around to just donate it to all of India more power to you my friend because the cost of transporting something that can easily spoil is isn't cheap either.

[@amyx231]

Processing costs money. And processors have sick workers so can’t process. You process?

[@evanerickson7416]

What is not said is that most of this was brought on by large amounts of money in commercializing such products and lobbyists in politics. I personally can't drink milk on the regular but love when it is made into other things, like pasta, pizza or cheese. To save the dairy sector, it needs to be minimized and be able to make more specific products. Instead of dumping that milk, we could make cheese, and not just cheese, we can make smoked cheese or specialized cheese. In elementary school I remember learning about the "Great Depression" and saw many now infamous pictures of people spilling milk on the side of the road because it has just become useless. Another thing bottled water sales have gone up so much because of commercial greed and consumer ignorance. Some people are buying their months worth of drinking water on Amazon; that comes in plastic bottles put in cardboard boxes and wrapped with plastic bubbles, it is then shipped from hundreds to thousands of miles away to reach the consumer buy using less than carbon efficient means... such as your letter carrier delivering it to your door. Most carbon efficient delivery is through trains or planes. And those products are delivered to your local grocery store. But because of pandemics and people not willing to go to stores they are now buying online, which means a longer wait time, more money spent and more carbon emissions among other things. Lastly, Milk may bother my guts but butter and moderate amounts of cheese do me fine, some people will differ.

[@SmackYaMama]

*Farmers have been doing this for almost a century now.* S/o to VP Henry Wallace, one of the greatest Americans to live.

[@ColombianLNP]

This is so sad

[@sapprdaddy]

ColombianLNP indeed, very sad it has come to this.

[@stillnotspicy]

how about feeding it to the calves which need it?

[@stynnieuwenhuis9999]

Vishnu Ananthkumar Holstein cows will make much more milk than a calf needs. A calf needs around 5 litres a day and a cow produces around 30

[@stynnieuwenhuis9999]

Vishnu Ananthkumar feed a calf too much and it will scour

[@robox9225]

@@stynnieuwenhuis9999 instead of wasting the milk they should have donated the milk to african countries or some war tone country

[@yengsabio5315]

@@robox9225 Noble intent but easier said than done.

[@Ranveer_sangha03]

@@robox9225 so who's gonna pay for shipping Nothing is free boy

[@keepyourjobkeepyourjob7530]

Who gives a dam ..it's animal milk ...we're not suppose to drink animal milk ...we're HUMANS ...there for we drink HUMAN MILK ...

[@tompreiss5010]

People didn't stock up it was never there to begin with. Bottling and distribution didn't step up and fill the gap.

[@mtl-ss1538]

Mean-wile - New Zealand [subsidy free] dairy farmers prices leapt 4.6 per cent across the board in the latest Global Dairy Trade auction, held overnight. Crucially, the Whole Milk Powder price - the biggest influencer on Fonterra's Farmgate milk price - charged ahead by 5.0 per cent to an average US$3,182/MT. www.nzherald.co.nz/the-country/news/big-jump-across-the-board-in-latest-global-dairy-trade-auction/FG7TDWCLOZ37INYQGYCSC2M6BI/

[@IvanVelezVlogs]

They should have pasteurized it as UHT

[@Roof_Pizza]

UHT is gross.

[@mitkoogrozev]

I'm trying to move away form any animal products but this is just such a waste of resources. It is terrible to see that the money system is so pervasive , that humans have no other established way to distribute resource, unless someone gives fantasy units of value directly to someone else, which leads to this unsane behavior.

[@ronmaxim8009]

What part of there is no demand do you not understand?? If there is demand of 80 units and a production of 160 units, what do you propose be done to increase the demand? How do you increase demand when everyone is locked up? Do you intend to pay to store and refrigerate each days production of milk until the quarantine in over? Would it be better for you to just have the milk cows killed to match with the 80 units of demand??

[@mitkoogrozev]

@@ronmaxim8009 I understand where you're coming from but tell me this. Ignore the abstraction of ''supply and demand" and tell me, in the real world, not in a made up example, are there people who need food , but are not getting any? Is the supply really exceeding 'the demand'? People live in total food security and have an abundant access to it?

[@ronmaxim8009]

@@mitkoogrozev Raw milk is not food. It cannot be sold except to someone or some company that can pasteurize it and convert it to a lawful food that can be sold to consumers. The farmers sell tanker loads of milk, not gallons of milk. When there is no entity willing or able to by a tanker load of milk, there is no other option other than to dump it. If the demand really was exceeding the supply, then the companies that buy in bulk in order to sell in gallons would be buying in order to satisfy the consumers screaming for more milk. But they are not...Because at this moment, there is not enough demand from people screaming for a gallon of milk to justify buying milk by the tanker load. I am sure if someone needed a gallon of milk, and was willing to buy the entire tanker and pay for the pasturizing and bottling, it would gladly be sold. But then they would have to figure out what to do with the other 17,999 gallons of milk that they have.

[@AFA111]

They can donate it to homeless people. Why to waste it like that?

[@mauromorganti2563]

Ambrose Francis, read the comment above you will see the reason

[@AFilmaciones]

They rather dump it than give it away but if the market is low and they lose money they ask for free money.

[@preoximerias7366]

The people saying “donate” or “alter the milk to other dairy products” need to look at this problem a bit deeper. It costs far more money and time to make the raw milk into something fit for donation or fit for other dairy products. Than it costs to simply dump it.

[@LittleRainGames]

They could just lower the cost of milk, and other diary products. I barely buy cheese because its too expensive. Problem is they are greedy, and they want prices to stay the same. If they lower it now, it will be hard to raise later.

[@scottyhaines4226]

@@LittleRainGames so what are they supposed to do when it starts spoiling? This isn't a price fixing problem. This is a supply and demand issue. You cant sell milk nobody can buy. And you cant store it either cause it spoils. It's far cheaper and easier to dump it.

[@ninobecirevic7135]

You can store milk. There is a process, it just tastes like it was boiled (which it may have been). Two years I think is the max storage. Unfortunately, they probably don't have the machinery in place to do so.

[@jeremiahhelg]

I think the benefits of donating the milk to organizations like Feeding America offset the costs of transportation. I'll admit it's not in the farmers interest, but it's better than letting the product go to waste. What we need is a system in place that allows farmers to offset transportation costs of goods that can't make it to market and are perishable because it will allow us to efficiently displace over supply like we are seeing. That being said I understand it is a loss to the farmer who is the victim of this outcome and it is fair to say that they deserve compensation for the loss; however, if we develop a better system that rewards the farmer for donating his goods in an effort to end world hunger it will improve the issues we are seeing in today's global supply chain.

[@kkp4297]

what a waste. sell on the cheap and let us drink

[@amyx231]

Not pasteurized. Processing and shipping costs money too. Workers sick. Drivers sick. Who’s gonna process, bottle, and transport these liquids?

[@poochyenarulez]

the entire problem is no one is buying it.

[@yerpderp6800]

@@amyx231 seriously, I don't understand how this is so hard to grasp for some people

[@electronresonator8882]

@@amyx231 just ask your neighbors to queue (6 feet away from each other), in front of your milk tank, tell them to bring their own bottle, if you're going to throw it away, then it's just temporary stop in their belly to take any nutrition in the milk, before going into the ground as pee

[@eddiewalker9114]

@@yerpderp6800 You fools are scared of some unpasteurized milk oh no, most of the world seems fine without pasteurization

[@vashisht1]

Why didn't they convert that milk into milk products like cottage cheese, Yogurt etc...?

[@lovingatlanta]

🤔How is dry powdered milk made? Couldn’t they have used it to make powdered milk that lasts a long time and is not dependent on refrigeration then put it on the shelves for sale and/or send it to poor people and poor countries for consumption!!💝

[@daveschreiner413]

40 pounds of cheese per year per person! Can you say obesity and heart disease?

[@letsgetsocialinfo]

They should try to find a way to sell to other countries.. I have a problem drinking milk, I'm 42 and black.. Milk gives me the vicious runs

[@owenmobile3678]

I’m pretty sure immigration is shut.

[@Hans.Dewitt]

who tf wants to ship MILK to other countries?

[@asadb1990]

@@Hans.Dewitt well like meat, milk can be sent around the world.

[@letsgetsocialinfo]

@@Hans.Dewitt happens all the time

[@letsgetsocialinfo]

@White Man no I just drink plant milk..

[@holyland6380]

Make milk powder and export to Asia. People are fighting for milk there.

[@ph11p3540]

Bottled water as a product is one of the dumbest inventions. I cannot figure out how bottled water became so popular