Why Are Epoxy And Wood Tables SO Expensive?

We've gotten a lot of controversy over the pricing of some epoxy tables, so we're going to break it down for you with this custom table we built for Danica Patrick's winery.
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[@Craigmmmc]

Really appreciate the video to get the word out. I try to explain to customers why I charge what I charge. You guys do great work.

[@jeffmackdesigns]

Thank you for the feedback! We appreciate it! Cheers!

[@tjohnstone9335]

You're work is beautiful bro an inspiring to have a play thankyou for you're videos love from Australia

[@foxridgeslabs]

Thank you for this video!! Very well said. I am going to share this video with my customers.

[@jeffmackdesigns]

Thank you for the feedback! I’m glad you got some value from it and I’m pumped that you’ll be able to share with your customers to help them understand.

[@foxridgeslabs]

@@jeffmackdesigns for sure! This video is giving me ideas for a “Why are live edge slabs so expensive” video. So many people don’t understand the equipment cost alone that goes into milling lumber…not to mention the physical labor and so many other costs.

[@fourpeakswoodwerx5144]

Excellent work, Team JMD!

[@jeffmackdesigns]

Thanks for watching! We appreciate the support

[@michaelpintal5419]

I understand that tools cost money but you really can't factor those in the cost, imagine getting a brake job done on your car and they factor in the tools, it would cost you thousands just for brakes, everything else is good though, rent, supplies, labor, but besides all that, you guys do awesome work 👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@MartinCZK]

exactly what i was thinking

[@hudsonsoul1121]

Yeah, if you need to buy the tools for every job then yes but they last many years if looked after. Definitely should add maybe 10% for wear and tear.

[@woozy607]

I always charge 15% of my quotes for tool charge because of wear and tear, but I also do concrete work

[@paulbrittain3925]

Very insightful, informative and helpful. Most people don't appreciate the work and costs involved in making anything. Only see finished product and think it was easy. Point of clarification. You charge the full cost of tools on every project even if the tool was only used as part of the build? Do you apply the same principle to smaller builds ie coffee tables, charcuterie boards? Is this industry standard? Thanks.

[@naomiwalker2192]

You are right on with the price!

[@davidsnyder4965]

Great table 😊

[@matthewransom6469]

You guys do awesome work. When doing a table with live edge and if it has a steep live edge do you make the steep part the top of the table? Some live edge are kind of straight up and down and not much character so how how do you position yours? I call it the sharp part of the live edge, do you put that on top or bottom

[@jeffmackdesigns]

It really depends on the piece as a whole, but typically we throw our slabs in forms so that the live edges slope away from the top (like a hill leading down to the bottom). If we're dealing with steep edges, typically the wider side of the slab, if any, ends up on the bottom. Ultimately it's personal preference, we've done the opposite requested by customers in the past!

[@matthewransom6469]

@Jeff Mack Designs thank you very much for your detailed reply. Thanks alot. I'm. Beginner and going to try my very first one and it's maple. It has some really nice live edge but the as you call it down hill slope is pretty steep on some places and very curvy. I didnt know if the wider part of the live edge needed to be on top or bottom of the actual finished product. But what i gather from you the bottom of the hill needs to be the bottom of the finished table!! Thank you very much. I love your line of empire molds by the way. I'm going to order the rectangular set in a couple weeks. Soon as I get the extra money. I've been trying and wanting some for months now but who knew starting a small wood shop was so costly haha.

[@newearthlivingithaca]

what does CNC do to the piece?

[@benfisher7855]

I’m interested to know why you flood coat with epoxy before applying Rubio? I apply my Rubio to the bare wood, but always open to learning new methods

[@jeffmackdesigns]

In this case, the wood needed to be stabilized. The epoxy was well absorbed into the grain which still allowed for us to sand and apply Rubio!

[@j.r.hadwin5838]

Old saying you get what you pay for that table looked like it would out last us all and one of a kind it's called workmanship and that sir is a piece of art . God Bless

[@jeffmackdesigns]

Thanks for the comment! We appreciate it 🙌

[@DerekFromMalden]

This a great video. I have a small home shop and 3 months ago electric rates jumped 67%, yes 67 not 6 or 7. My electric bill was on average $350-375, noiw $618!!!! People dont get it.

[@jeffmackdesigns]

Wow! That’s a big jump in expense!

[@fdlptruckie]

Question whats a flood coat of epoxy and why exactly did you need it

[@jeffmackdesigns]

A flood coat is a term we use when you're pouring a thin layer of epoxy over a project to either finish/polish or in this case, stabilize the wood.

[@pamelawalsh8153]

Shipping/delivery?

[@jeffmackdesigns]

That would be another additional cost. I didn’t include it in this video but that could always be another video idea!

[@lacrobate2484]

How to buy a gemsander ??

[@jeffmackdesigns]

You'll have to search for local carriers or order one online. A simple google search for GemSander should do!

[@funn1face]

Stunning work guys! I make resin tables too and have been asked why it’s so much I always give the same answer: Considering some people will spend hundreds or thousands on designer brand clothing that doesn’t cost much more to make than a cheap brand of clothing, now you have a piece of quality furniture that if looked after will last generations…. I rest my case, same with tools you buy cheap you get what you pay for this isn’t ikea off the shelf chipboard 🙄 some people just don’t get it while wearing their expensive fashion brands of clothes and driving a luxury car. I bet the furniture we make outlasts both

[@genericamerican7574]

With clothing it sometimes depends on if they pay people who make it or mostly just the designer. If consumerism didn’t have a history of grifting, people wouldn’t be so weary about the cost. Then you have the customer who has money to spend on art enrichment while others want enriching art and can’t help the budget. They want as much as they can afford though. Can you blame them?

[@imransadiq4149]

There is no debate! Epoxy is difficult to work with and if you make a mistake, it will be a very expensive dilemma. The customer pays for the knowledge and experience of the craftman. It's a very niche skill. People have to pay for that, PERIOD.

[@carterfridd7070]

nice

[@jeffmackdesigns]

Thanks for watching!! We appreciate it!

[@DoyouknowthatJesusmadeTables]

Some people are just jerk that don't even want to pay a $1.00 more for something of good quality but would rather buy something of lower quality.

[@Ron_swanson_true_libertarian]

You just gave a great argument why proxy tables are inferior to hand carved tables they are far better this proxy tables are a craft that can be learnt in 3 years but real craft masters don't hid their mistakes beneath plastic but keep going to perfection tbis takes decades so it justifying the labour

[@asadiqbal01]

Never say "some" and "sanding" in one go please. Its crap load of sanding😁. Great work and education

[@jeffmackdesigns]

Hahah you couldn't be more correct! Thanks!

[@newearthlivingithaca]

seems reasonable to me, that table is a gorgeous life enhancing piece of sculpture!!

[@johnlee7377]

If they tried making one they'd understand

[@matthewbyam3248]

So if you make 100 a year that a lot of money .

[@zachwolfrom4522]

Gulp.

[@tjohnstone9335]

Never feel like you ever have to justify what you charge bro .

[@Ron_swanson_true_libertarian]

Exactly when you have idiots how their with more money then brains.

[@gymbod459]

96 inches huh.. bet she'll still say she's seen bigger

[@waldiggidy4098]

For me other costs and tools and employees is irrelevant to customers

[@jeffmackdesigns]

Yep. They just see the cost of materials (which is often underestimated) and then think that you’ll work for $10/hour to create it.

[@MrVbobby]

I wonder who came up with the dumb idea of mixing epoxy with wood but the joke is on the people who buy them. what are they supposed to look like? I'm sorry it just is ridiculous. Making a table is woodworking epoxy js arts and craffs

[@Ron_swanson_true_libertarian]

There's never been a beautiful slab of wood that was better for having Eproxy on it and paying people to help you ruin it don't justify the price either making epoxy tables are a cheating way of calling yourself a master craftsman I'm here in Ireland and some of the old boys who make tables would cry if they saw such sacrilege of fine wood.

[@jeffmackdesigns]

You could argue that most wood used in epoxy tables are considered trash or garbage. They're no good for milling dimensional lumber from, most end up in pieces to be burned. Epoxy can bring new life to them.

[@K61000]

Lmao your in no way justifying the price not even close half those over priced tools not even needed at most $5-6 thousand in materials so you profit 10gs facts