Why Are Larger SSDs Faster?

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Techquickie

Techquickie

6 жыл бұрын

Have you ever noticed that higher-capacity SSDs often give you a speed boost? Why is that?
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@unvergebeneid
@unvergebeneid 6 жыл бұрын
Today I learned: teenagers are expensive, relatively speaking.
@AvailableUsernameTed
@AvailableUsernameTed 6 жыл бұрын
What about teenagers who are not related to me?
@ronindebeatrice
@ronindebeatrice 6 жыл бұрын
Pipe2DevNull Ayyyyyy
@eclipseslayer98
@eclipseslayer98 6 жыл бұрын
Teens are expensive from a certain point of view.
@surelock3221
@surelock3221 6 жыл бұрын
*roughly speaking
@getmepaid2day653
@getmepaid2day653 6 жыл бұрын
it's more expensive to get rid of a teenager then to keep one trust me.
@trumpeter811
@trumpeter811 6 жыл бұрын
Linus was probably just really hungry when they filmed this
@ileryon4019
@ileryon4019 6 жыл бұрын
Burgers, fries, potatoes, sodas, teenagers.
@RC-1290
@RC-1290 6 жыл бұрын
3:10 "Silicon is cheap, it's basically sand" Can't wait for the episode where Linus tech tips grows a microchip grade silicon crystal.
@rhebucks_zh
@rhebucks_zh 2 жыл бұрын
and scale up
@micah-c
@micah-c 6 жыл бұрын
Point taken: SSD = fries. Thank you techquickie, now I'm going to snack on a hard drive while installing my new fry.
@Kittsuera
@Kittsuera 6 жыл бұрын
no, you snack on computer Chips. you have to fry your hard drive first to soften it up.
@Ascend777
@Ascend777 4 жыл бұрын
You PC masta race are so stoopid. I could just eat my PS4 right out the box.
@nuke2625
@nuke2625 3 жыл бұрын
Yea man I'm tired of shops giving me soft and dull fries. Now finally I'll have some Solid state fries I mean drives.
@mcruff3
@mcruff3 3 жыл бұрын
@@nuke2625 The old floppy fries I uh mean drives are just so floppy and gross. Thank god you at least can easily hard drives. I don't love how hard they are but better than floppy.
@garfieldandfriends1
@garfieldandfriends1 2 жыл бұрын
ah yes a large order of Phish and (com) chips
@atomikcabbage
@atomikcabbage 6 жыл бұрын
As a type 1 diabetic, I thank you for helping me to pick out what my headstone will say in the event I die due to complications from my disease, "died of 'Beetus".
@saganc.4090
@saganc.4090 6 жыл бұрын
always
@icoudntthinkofanoriginalna5024
@icoudntthinkofanoriginalna5024 6 жыл бұрын
What if im type 1 diabetic and dont want to live that long?
@fartonaut2291
@fartonaut2291 6 жыл бұрын
Dunestorm "Had type 1 diabetes since his 20's"
@withoutpassid
@withoutpassid 6 жыл бұрын
Type 1 diabetes is caused by the destruction of your insulin producing cells by your immune system and has very little thing to do with your calorie consumption.
@woestewouter96
@woestewouter96 6 жыл бұрын
""Died o' 'Beetus"
@Kingofmolotov
@Kingofmolotov 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you for explaining Economies of Scale. Economicquickie
@Rationalific
@Rationalific 6 жыл бұрын
I love when more storage is also cheaper per amount of storage as well as faster! Usually, there are downsides and you have to give something up, but this seems like a win as long as you have the money to go bigger.
@diskgrind3410
@diskgrind3410 6 жыл бұрын
Out of most of the fast as possible videos, this one was quality. Clear, concise and cutting edge information. Thanks again Linus.
@abdoufma
@abdoufma 6 жыл бұрын
Not to mention larger drives are more likely to have a larger amount of free space (for a longer amount of time) which does affect the drive's health in he long run.
@Gipfir
@Gipfir 6 жыл бұрын
no cut for the tunnelbear ad... damn, this really makes me think about how many takes they need for one quicky video like this. But linus definitely is amazing at presenting stuff on video and acts super naturally. Good stuff LMG and mr sebastian
@burt591
@burt591 6 жыл бұрын
You are very clear at explaining stuff, Great work!
@GD-tn3ez
@GD-tn3ez 4 ай бұрын
“Spike” from Christmas with the Kranks, did a good job of explaining the subject.
@marcfusch
@marcfusch 6 жыл бұрын
1:50 He walah!
@AkshanshShrivastava
@AkshanshShrivastava 6 жыл бұрын
Marc Fuschino hahaha
@ujiltromm7358
@ujiltromm7358 6 жыл бұрын
Très bien!
@mashalkhan8261
@mashalkhan8261 6 жыл бұрын
voilla!
@marcfusch
@marcfusch 6 жыл бұрын
Mashal Khan I know but he prononced WALAH. funny guy
@mashalkhan8261
@mashalkhan8261 6 жыл бұрын
i GET the joke, chill
@as7river
@as7river 5 жыл бұрын
Commercial SSDs today have extremely big longevity periods (estimated by the manufacturer, that more often prove to be low). I do wonder on whether the first commercial SSD of this generation has already, officially kicked the bucket.
@shyneguy
@shyneguy 6 жыл бұрын
simple answer to the first part: the storage modules in an ssd work like raid0. pull minimal amount of info from multiple locations
@berndeckenfels
@berndeckenfels 4 жыл бұрын
Needs to be mentioned that even for denser HDD you get more throughput (given same rpm and quality electronics)
@NazmusLabs
@NazmusLabs Жыл бұрын
that’s what I assumed. Thanks for confirming. May Allah (S.W.T.) guide you to Islam and bestow upon you His Blessings; Ameen.
@techno1561
@techno1561 3 ай бұрын
But only to a point. These days, most HDDs cap out at about a gigabit or two, even though the storage density increases enough that it might take a day or a few to write a drive from start to finish.
@berndeckenfels
@berndeckenfels 3 ай бұрын
@@techno1561 yeah or 4 for the high end dual actuator drives. At least there is some capacity in SAS3 to grow. I think there are no SAS4 HDD, yet? But of course the usefulness for HDD is shrinking by the minute.
@Erith251
@Erith251 6 жыл бұрын
For some reason I enjoyed this TechQuickie edit more than any other one that I've seen so far (and I watch them all). The script was smooth and clear, no silly "facepalm" jokes or puns, straight to the point and easy to understand even for non-IT enthusiasts. I don't know if you guys did something different this time but please follow this path for future ones. Anyways, just my 2 cents.
@WarriorsPhoto
@WarriorsPhoto 6 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video. Well written and good information. Thank you.
@DMahalko
@DMahalko 6 жыл бұрын
The speed can be increased by making multiple low-capacity and separate flash circuits on a single large high-density chip. It just needs more pins for each separate flash area on the large chip.
@erickleefeld4883
@erickleefeld4883 4 жыл бұрын
The economics term for the infrastructure involved in setting up a factory or other business place (in your example, a fast-food joint) is called the “fixed cost.” The material inputs per unit of production (silicon for flash memory modules, potatoes for French fries, etc.) are “marginal costs.”
@tacticalkyuubi8147
@tacticalkyuubi8147 6 жыл бұрын
The beginning resonates with me on a terrifying level
@neehgurg2111
@neehgurg2111 6 жыл бұрын
Wow. One of his first videos that actually explained something. Why do I keep watching him then? I think I'm addicted.
@jjdog711
@jjdog711 6 жыл бұрын
So informative i had no idea about this, thank you!
@jjdog711
@jjdog711 6 жыл бұрын
Subbed :)
@reverentevzheniy
@reverentevzheniy 4 жыл бұрын
On 2nd minute when Linus spoke about higher capacity means more memory modules I thought that they run in some kind of NAND-Raid, thus, information is written/read simultaneously to/from each chip.
@dylreesYT
@dylreesYT 6 жыл бұрын
Really well explained, even if I knew this level of detail already :P
@dr.leonardhofstadter5866
@dr.leonardhofstadter5866 6 жыл бұрын
Love your videos Linus 👍👍👍
@satishkumarperumal
@satishkumarperumal 6 жыл бұрын
That was an eye opener! 👍🏾
@neyel8r
@neyel8r 6 жыл бұрын
honestly didn't already know about this, thx for the info. & the tunnelbear
@JamesHryb
@JamesHryb 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! I learned a bit!!!! NICE!
@bobh5261
@bobh5261 6 жыл бұрын
Great teacher. never boring
@GoosewithTwoOs
@GoosewithTwoOs 6 жыл бұрын
Economics lesson on Linus tech tips? I dig it.
@ArchonLicht
@ArchonLicht 6 жыл бұрын
This episode was so good I even watched your ads dude - just out of respect :-)
@ruthmoreton6975
@ruthmoreton6975 Жыл бұрын
What has held true for me over HDDs and SSDs is that the sweet spot of Storage vs Price has been in the £120 mark. Right now it's a 2Tb SSD
@jzenrick1989
@jzenrick1989 6 жыл бұрын
Much better. I definitely enjoyed this far more
@paveljelinek772
@paveljelinek772 6 жыл бұрын
I would give you even more likes, thanx for explaining linus
@nO_d3N1AL
@nO_d3N1AL 6 жыл бұрын
That intro is getting old now. But one of the best Techquikcies in a while
@dannymin83
@dannymin83 6 жыл бұрын
Best tech KZbinr period, IMO
@TheHurricaneHunterNickTHH
@TheHurricaneHunterNickTHH 6 жыл бұрын
The nand flash modules in a SSD are kind of like many smaller SSDs running in RAID 0.
@amirulidzham3686
@amirulidzham3686 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Linus, I wanna see a video topic about download accelerator. Which one to use and why some website disallow it and so on. Why browser download are slower than download accelerator? Thanks
@jonathanhtsi
@jonathanhtsi 6 жыл бұрын
No cool sponsors transition? Unsubscribed.
@V1ralTik
@V1ralTik 6 жыл бұрын
Bruh I just ignore the sponsors as long as he is getting paid
@cliffords2315
@cliffords2315 6 жыл бұрын
LOL
@MetalCrazyGoat
@MetalCrazyGoat 6 жыл бұрын
then that begs the question, what is the bandwidth cap of those controller modules? aka, how many is too many vnand chips
@hussainblackdrag1983
@hussainblackdrag1983 6 жыл бұрын
hey champ!! can you cover in your next episode in Techquickie difference between PPTP, L2TP, IPsec, SSL , OpenVPN and GRE VPN, and something about authentication Protocols and Security Protocols
@MrMysticphantom
@MrMysticphantom 6 жыл бұрын
Yo Linus... how's that watch you're wearing, thats the Casio ProTrek right?
@kylehazachode
@kylehazachode 6 жыл бұрын
do a video on the current generation of ssd controllers
@PierreAndersson85
@PierreAndersson85 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I bought myself an Intel 1,2Tb 2,5" S3610 Sata SSD with only 18 hours runtime and 1Tb of data written for 114 $. It's MLC type. My SSD since 2014 is my Samsung 840 Evo 500Gb i bought in 2014 new for 198$, still is very fast.
@codysimmons1496
@codysimmons1496 4 жыл бұрын
This makes sense, however a Corsair m.2 ssd with a heatsink is over double the price when you go from 1tb to 2tb.
@greatvalueaustinevans706
@greatvalueaustinevans706 4 жыл бұрын
this guy looks like linus from linus tech tips 🤔
@DarthMcLeod
@DarthMcLeod 6 жыл бұрын
How does work with M.2? There isn't much room for additional modules.
@mohammadwasiurrahmanbhuiya8059
@mohammadwasiurrahmanbhuiya8059 6 жыл бұрын
SSDs are faster 'cos they have VTEC and 2JZ kicking in The SSD manufacturers are hiding something from us
@shanebeasley8191
@shanebeasley8191 6 жыл бұрын
so it works sorta like an internal raid when it comes to speed?
@hugoburton5222
@hugoburton5222 6 жыл бұрын
I always wondered this. I thought it was that the manufacturer limits the speed through the controller on smaller drives.
@TheDemonThorn
@TheDemonThorn 6 жыл бұрын
that soda analogy started out dark linus
@butre.
@butre. 5 жыл бұрын
I wish someone would make 3.5 or even 5.25 inch ssds to really take advantage of this property. Even if it cost a couple grand you could easily fit 30 terabytes worth of nand chips in a 5.25 inch form factor, and at that point your sata or even sas interface would be your limiting factor. Connect it via pcie x16 and we could be looking at some serious performance.
@virgobro2025
@virgobro2025 6 жыл бұрын
I need to see a comparison video
@deivec
@deivec 6 жыл бұрын
Please video about SSD cache (pseudo SLC or smth like that)
@ciprianiulian871
@ciprianiulian871 2 жыл бұрын
2017: "Silicon is cheap" 2022: *entry-level gpu at 250€*
@Conscript83
@Conscript83 6 жыл бұрын
How do you know how many flash modules a particular SSD has? I do not think this is in the technical description of the products... I guess you can just assume bigger is faster?
@WhatsWrongWithEm
@WhatsWrongWithEm 6 жыл бұрын
You've answer a question I've beat myself with many times before
@jef8278
@jef8278 6 жыл бұрын
Hey linus does anyone ei your team actually use Tunnel Bear? I might consider it with the ending of net neutrality in the states
@Omlet221
@Omlet221 3 жыл бұрын
So it’s kind of like the flash modules are in raid 0?
@garfieldbudd6565
@garfieldbudd6565 6 жыл бұрын
Does the same thing apply to m.2 SSDs?
@Blurrybob
@Blurrybob 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative
@DotaMaster321
@DotaMaster321 Жыл бұрын
NAND flash is arranged in serial (1:33), and NOR in parallel not like Linus said...
@johnny_123b
@johnny_123b 6 жыл бұрын
so mem modules inside ssd are like in raid0?
@senselocke
@senselocke 6 жыл бұрын
Learned why fast food can't be too cheap. Unexpected, but glad to make sense of fry prices.
@gregoriysharapov1936
@gregoriysharapov1936 6 жыл бұрын
When one mentions "SSD", I picture Druaga1 forcefully putting an SSD into something like a light
@tinkmarshino
@tinkmarshino 6 жыл бұрын
at 65 I need help figuring out all of this new silliness... thanks my friend...
@almothafar
@almothafar 6 жыл бұрын
It is sounds something in old days, I mean I can see the difference with Evo 840 but for Evo 850 the random read and write almost the same, I can't find info for 950 and 960 NVMe SSDs.
@kaouecheomar5282
@kaouecheomar5282 3 жыл бұрын
Does this approach apply to micro sd cards as well ?
@ipurerican
@ipurerican 6 жыл бұрын
Great Video
@MarkDemacio
@MarkDemacio 6 жыл бұрын
Is that why hard drives are faster when you format it to have smaller allocation unit sizes? (think with traditional drives you lose some space for more speed)
@npuldon
@npuldon 6 жыл бұрын
+Techquicke It seems like SSD prices ~double with the doubling of capacity after best value model. This would conflict the fry analogy. Please explain
@jmw1776
@jmw1776 6 жыл бұрын
so this doesnt apply to m.2 nvme drives? because most of them have the same amount of cards on them as the higher capacity ones
@darkcrozs
@darkcrozs 6 жыл бұрын
Holy sh*t I just search about this yesterday and BOOOOM techquickie giving me the answer
@rogertampabay6616
@rogertampabay6616 5 жыл бұрын
i had this happen to me. i had a 120 gb ssd nand 3d, and i got a second drive same same manufacturer and same tech but its 500 gb, it is noticeably faster.
@michaelzoran
@michaelzoran 3 жыл бұрын
QUESTION: I have a 1TB Samsung 850 Pro SATA SSD. And I have an 10TB Western Digital 7200 external HD. When I try to transfer a large group of digital files of about 140GB in size from the SSD to the 10TB external HD, it transfers very quickly at a steady rate of 180MB per second the entire time. However, when I use that same 1TB SSD to try to transfer those same files to an internal Western Digital 7200 HD that is only 500GB in size, it quickly transfers at about 160MB per second for about or or two seconds, and then almost immediately drops down to about 70MB per second, which is much slower than when the files are transferred to the other hard drive. Do you know why this is?
@superstealth385
@superstealth385 6 жыл бұрын
Linus explains ssd very good
@beardy736
@beardy736 6 жыл бұрын
The burger king pricing thing is to tempt you away from the medium sized drink you want and spend more money to get "better value"
@ulysseslee9541
@ulysseslee9541 6 жыл бұрын
similar with the bit-rate theory of Memory
@zdlanedenny
@zdlanedenny 5 жыл бұрын
I knew the other stuff, wish I knew about the speed thing.. a week ago
@Juhuuu
@Juhuuu 6 жыл бұрын
So, be with me on this. Silicon is sand. My ssd is silicon. I have sand in my backyard. So why am I then buying basically very expensive sand from a store when I could get it from my backyard?
@vnyggi621
@vnyggi621 6 жыл бұрын
Juho Leiniö your cpu and gpu are even more expensive sand :D Oh did I mention that energy whise, your pc does nothing but convert electric energy into heat, its basically an expensive heater xD
@rorychristensen9516
@rorychristensen9516 6 жыл бұрын
Your sand is not pure sand :P
@nicemelbs
@nicemelbs 6 жыл бұрын
go ahead and slap some sand into your machine then
@neehgurg2111
@neehgurg2111 6 жыл бұрын
Juho Leiniö if you can make 14nm transistors then go ahead
@xxxdroidmonkeyxxx
@xxxdroidmonkeyxxx 6 жыл бұрын
Good luck storing a movie in the sand in your backyard! Let me know how it goes lol
@Seansmit23
@Seansmit23 6 жыл бұрын
Look at Linus right arm (The left arm from our perspective!) I cant watch this until he fixes his sleeve!
@sience7791
@sience7791 6 жыл бұрын
hello,i like the idea where you explained why larger ssds are faster !! simply ,when you have many Nands on the board as the larger ,it takes less to access data , such as small closet and big one ,in bigger SSD there are lot of space so the access to memory would be faster ,especially nand 3D technology
@siddharthkapoor1056
@siddharthkapoor1056 6 жыл бұрын
Hey where is the pc you said you will keep running a benchmark on for a year
@SmerrillS
@SmerrillS 6 жыл бұрын
So it does a similar process like raid? that actually makes a LOT of sense.
@johnmeldrewvinfernandez4805
@johnmeldrewvinfernandez4805 Жыл бұрын
Hiya.. This is maybe late comment but I find on 2:34 was good explanation on Cost accounting.. And also be also correct Fixed cost was really expensive, due to its independent this cost was uncontrollable, than Variable cost.. But I also want to add that if the production was high the Fixed cost was also decrease (similar to our Law of Demand)..
@johnmeldrewvinfernandez4805
@johnmeldrewvinfernandez4805 Жыл бұрын
Notes po.. Fixed cost: Its costs that incurred REGARDLESS what level of production is. Variable costs: Its costs that ONLY incurred, if their production was happening.. If their no production, then you DON'T incurred a variable cost.
@barsik1923
@barsik1923 6 жыл бұрын
what do you think about Dropbox Paper?
@returo7297
@returo7297 2 ай бұрын
wheres the CC?
@Samir-xy5py
@Samir-xy5py 6 жыл бұрын
1:02 nani?!
@lavaslice
@lavaslice 6 жыл бұрын
what about two ssd of 120 gb in raid 0 vs one 240gb ssd?
@MaryJaneDenseSmoke
@MaryJaneDenseSmoke 6 жыл бұрын
Skip to the Tunnelbear AD --> 4:09
@NetvoTV
@NetvoTV 2 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video about physcial size of SSD, there's SSD external drive thats really small and really bug but still same size, the small one can have heat sink to improve the performance too so is this mean there's no reason to get a physical external ssd
@MarkBuse
@MarkBuse 6 жыл бұрын
Tunnel-bear commercials illustrate the way many of us wanted ISPs to operate all along. The large ones could provide the same protection and anonymity as integrated or add-on services, but they just don't bother. Over time, competition should help drive the trend toward more complete Internet access services.
@liviuliviu2453
@liviuliviu2453 5 жыл бұрын
Bravo fratemeleu!
@heyhocodyo1997
@heyhocodyo1997 3 жыл бұрын
Soo my PC is from 2008 and is still running the original hard drive and its making weird ticking noises so i bought another hard drive and its a terabyte and just so happens its from 2008 also, will it be faster than my old hard drive?
@backup_jack6921
@backup_jack6921 3 жыл бұрын
What about nvme? Is that different then says when it comes to bigger being faster?
@R2D2NERO
@R2D2NERO 5 жыл бұрын
is that the same logic for m.2? thanks
@MsArtons
@MsArtons 6 жыл бұрын
techquickie what is faster? 1tb hdd or 120gb ssd?
@stupidmoron2706
@stupidmoron2706 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Linus. I have a Nividia GeForce GTX 1050TI and a AMD Fx3600 in my rig. Do you think these are best together? Most games I only get 60-100Fps at medium settings alone. I feel like something is being choked up... Any suggestions?
@andersenlim23
@andersenlim23 6 жыл бұрын
can you explain how LK technology from bloody brand works?
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